11:30 - I replayed this distinction between secular triumphs and limits and where spirituality helps us where secularism can't. It's so true. Thank you for wording it so artfully Mr. Martel!
There is so much here. His box of jewels opened, rubies handed out - what a mind.
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Let me just make something clear, Moacyr Sciliar himself said that Life of Pi wasn't a copy of Max and the cats, in a interview, he said what people told him and the acusation people wanted him to make, he also talked about the controversies around Yann Martel alegations that, even tought he was inspirated by Moacyr's idea and that the book was based on Max and the Cats, he didn't read the book, he even said he read a critic, a negative review and that he worked on this great idea "destroyed by this bad brazillian author". The suposed author of that negative review was John Updike, that had to make a interview were he said that this "negative review" was inexistence and that he knew Moacyr and Max and the cats but never made that review. This interview of Moacyr Sciliar is on RUclips, and can be easily found, but it is in portuguese.
Well, have you read the books??? Please do and you will see. Scilair was a gentelman, was in the en of his life and couldn't be bother to o to court in England...
Moacyr: ""In a certain way I feel flattered that another writer considered my idea to be so good, but on the other hand, he used that idea without consulting me or even informing me. An idea is intellectual property," "I am not litigious, but I'm not the only owner of the book. My publishers are consulting their lawyers and examining legal options. But I am not going to make this a crusade." Guardian 2002.
He is a loser obsessed with himself and his intelligence. Intelligent people can spot someone such as himself. He also contradicts and doesn’t know what he is talking about answering the questions. When asked about religion, he stated that life without religion is trusting science and chance but in reality religion is the chance and isn’t based off of proof it’s all per chance
Yann, thank you very much for the insight and for your book, Life of Pi. Certainly enjoyed it very much and the lesson gained there, very much hope, it will stick forever. Will read more of your books for sure!
He credited Moacyr Scliar in the book itself for inspiring the story. There's no such thing as stealing in art. All art is a pastiche of and reference to previous art.
a story by one of Brazil's most respected authors, Moacyr Scliar, which has started the row over how much of the idea Martel "borrowed" from Scliar's Max and the Cats, in which a teenage Jewish boy is adrift in a boat with a panther after a shipwreck.
Martel also stated that his inspiration for the book's premise came from reading a book review of Brazilian author Moacyr Scliar's 1981 novella Max and the Cats, about a Jewish-German refugee who crossed the Atlantic Ocean while sharing his boat with a jaguar.[18][19] Scliar said that he was perplexed that Martel "used the idea without consulting or even informing me," and indicated that he was reviewing the situation before deciding whether to take any action in response
Wow, the amount of research this guy does for his books so they can be the most realistic mirrors of life....think about how impressive that is when you read a book and everything, small or big, is accurate.
Agreed. Beautifully written book that pushes a flimsy, whimsical message. Only on the topic of God can smart people like Martel imagine that they reap the fruits of human intelligence even as they plow them under.
Scliar, 65, who is descended from a family of Jewish immigrants and lives in Porto Allegre, said he considered the idea his "intellectual property" and that his publishers are considering legal action. "In a certain way I feel flattered that another writer considered my idea to be so good, but on the other hand, he used that idea without consulting me or even informing me. An idea is intellectual property," he said.
Several of Scliar’s books have been translated into English, including Max and the Cats, The Centaur in the Garden, and The Collected Stories of Moacyr Scliar (1999), which won the National Jewish Book Award. Any of these would make a good starting point for the curious reader new to his work.
Scliar reportedly considered suing Martel for plagiarism, saying, “To be influenced by other writers is very common, mainly when someone begins writing and has not developed his own style yet. But to copy is something very different. It is plagiarism.”
I would love to know what he has to say about the controversy surrounding the book Max and the Cats, written by Moacyr Sclair. Reading Life of PI, it is impossible not to think that this is a plagiarism.
Scliar would probably be even less well-known to American readers if Martel had not appropriated the central conceit for his Man Booker Prize-winning 2002 novel, The Life of Pi, from one of the Brazilian author’s most famous books, Max and the Cats (1981). As almost everyone knows, Martel’s book features a boy sharing a life raft with a tiger. In Scliar’s earlier novel, a boy shares a life raft with a jaguar.
You've got to admit, it's an unusual premise for a book: a little boy survives a shipwreck and winds up sharing a lifeboat with a large, predatory cat. Sound familiar? . But it also turns out to be the plot of book called "Max and the Cats," by esteemed Brazilian writer Moacyr Scliar ... which was published in 1981.
Scliar said he was hurt not only by Martel's comments about his work but because he felt Brazilian culture was being slighted. "It's unfortunate that now, when Brazilian literature is being abundantly mentioned abroad, it's because of this bizarre incident. I consider Brazilian literature to be of the first magnitude, and I would like our culture to be judged on its own merits.
Can someone here list the similarities between Max and the Cats by Moacyr Sclair and Life of Pi by Yann Martel? Does the story by Moacyr Sclair also resembles cannibalism, god, lost, anger, fighting demons and survival?
I have not read Max and the Cats but the point I'm trying to make is the following. If someone makes a movie named Alive about the 1972 Andes flight disaster, does it mean that the movie named The Grey with Liam Neeson is plagiarism?
Max Schmidt grew up in the stockroom of his father's fur store, cloaked among the foxes, minks, and leopards, hiding from the glaring eyes of a stuffed tiger atop the wardrobe. It is here he dreams of traveling to distant lands; and here, as a young man, he begins an affair with the store's married clerk.
Considering the corrosive critical reaction Yann Martel received for his most recent novel, last year’s Beatrice and Virgil, it may turn out that his most lasting contribution to literature will lie in accidentally alerting English-language readers to the existence of Moacyr Scliar, who died yesterday at the age of 73.
Yann Martel, the Canadian author and winner of this year's Booker prize has become entangled in a row over the plagiarism of fictional ideas after freely admitting the inspiration for his prize-winning novel came from another writer's work.
My name is Fatima, I am from Russia. My angel said to me in my dreams (10 dreams at night) that the ''Life of Pi''- is about the fall of the Apofis meteorite on Hawaii 17 and 22 yers after (He said ''There will be a blast''),and that this book and movie have been dictated to the Canadian author and thedirector. In the book the ship sinks near the Hawaii islands (Midway) at 4 o'clock of morning 21 June 1977(p.149) while Apofis will fall at 4 o'clock April 13,2029.The book was written in 2002.
it saddens me that people saw the movie before reading the book, the book was a masterpiece whilst the movie was mediore, i was stoked to see the adaptation and was seriously dissapointed
Forced to flee when his lover's husband discovers the affair and denounces Max to the Nazi secret police, Max steals away to Hamburg, where he takes passage on a freighter destined for disaster. When the ship founders somewhere off the coast of South America, Max is trapped in a dinghy with a hungry jaguar. Max believes his days are numbered-until he washes ashore on the coast of tiny Porto Alegre, Brazil, prepared to begin anew in the tropical clime. Thats It!!
niryaad oblum He is French Canadian, but does not speak it well, according to me. Probably because he chose to live in an English-speaking province of Canada.
I disagree, if you look for the question without prejudice you'll can see the truth... Yann Martel is a canadian that thought steal a good idea from someone from a latin american coutry could be a good deal... but it's not! He can swim in the money, but what about his conscience?
O cara é um Plagiarist!!! Não importa se ele leu uma resenha ou o livro todo. Poderia pegar uma frase dos Beatles e transformar em sucesso, porém não é permitido! Sorry! Aprendam português, I don't want to write in English!
This guy can talk.
I can listen to him the whole day
One of the best interviews with a writer I have heard. He seems so relatable and down-to-earth. And all the answers are so well thought out.
This interview gives a hint at the intelligence, passion, and curiosity of this gifted writer. Thanks for this.
11:30 - I replayed this distinction between secular triumphs and limits and where spirituality helps us where secularism can't. It's so true. Thank you for wording it so artfully Mr. Martel!
I love the way he explains things religion is a difficult subject to explain and yet how he explained it was acceptable and inoffensive which I liked.
There is so much here. His box of jewels opened, rubies handed out - what a mind.
Let me just make something clear, Moacyr Sciliar himself said that Life of Pi wasn't a copy of Max and the cats, in a interview, he said what people told him and the acusation people wanted him to make, he also talked about the controversies around Yann Martel alegations that, even tought he was inspirated by Moacyr's idea and that the book was based on Max and the Cats, he didn't read the book, he even said he read a critic, a negative review and that he worked on this great idea "destroyed by this bad brazillian author". The suposed author of that negative review was John Updike, that had to make a interview were he said that this "negative review" was inexistence and that he knew Moacyr and Max and the cats but never made that review. This interview of Moacyr Sciliar is on RUclips, and can be easily found, but it is in portuguese.
Well, have you read the books??? Please do and you will see.
Scilair was a gentelman, was in the en of his life and couldn't be bother to o to court in England...
Moacyr:
""In a certain way I feel flattered that another writer considered my idea to be so good, but on the other hand, he used that idea without consulting me or even informing me. An idea is intellectual property,"
"I am not litigious, but I'm not the only owner of the book. My publishers are consulting their lawyers and examining legal options. But I am not going to make this a crusade."
Guardian 2002.
Martel is amazing: dare to believe that life makes sense.
He is a loser obsessed with himself and his intelligence. Intelligent people can spot someone such as himself. He also contradicts and doesn’t know what he is talking about answering the questions. When asked about religion, he stated that life without religion is trusting science and chance but in reality religion is the chance and isn’t based off of proof it’s all per chance
I can listen to this man talking for hours!
I'm convinced that Martel is my soul sister. I find all his beliefs, thoughts and philosophies very relatable.
Yann, thank you very much for the insight and for your book, Life of Pi. Certainly enjoyed it very much and the lesson gained there, very much hope, it will stick forever. Will read more of your books for sure!
He credited Moacyr Scliar in the book itself for inspiring the story. There's no such thing as stealing in art. All art is a pastiche of and reference to previous art.
Well read both books and you will change your mind...
a story by one of Brazil's most respected authors, Moacyr Scliar, which has started the row over how much of the idea Martel "borrowed" from Scliar's Max and the Cats, in which a teenage Jewish boy is adrift in a boat with a panther after a shipwreck.
awesome stuff!
Martel also stated that his inspiration for the book's premise came from reading a book review of Brazilian author Moacyr Scliar's 1981 novella Max and the Cats, about a Jewish-German refugee who crossed the Atlantic Ocean while sharing his boat with a jaguar.[18][19] Scliar said that he was perplexed that Martel "used the idea without consulting or even informing me," and indicated that he was reviewing the situation before deciding whether to take any action in response
"To lead, you must read." Love that quote, and so true.
Yep! and if you read Max and the Cats you will have another view of Mr Martel.
i have an English essay on life of pi so hopefully this interview will give more insight
Wow, the amount of research this guy does for his books so they can be the most realistic mirrors of life....think about how impressive that is when you read a book and everything, small or big, is accurate.
In a research you give the credits...He is a thief and a liar.
Agreed. Beautifully written book that pushes a flimsy, whimsical message. Only on the topic of God can smart people like Martel imagine that they reap the fruits of human intelligence even as they plow them under.
In Life of Pi's acknowledgments, Martel thanked Scliar for "the spark of life," but later said he had not read Scliar's novel, only a review of it.
Scliar, 65, who is descended from a family of Jewish immigrants and lives in Porto Allegre, said he considered the idea his "intellectual property" and that his publishers are considering legal action.
"In a certain way I feel flattered that another writer considered my idea to be so good, but on the other hand, he used that idea without consulting me or even informing me. An idea is intellectual property," he said.
Several of Scliar’s books have been translated into English, including Max and the Cats, The Centaur in the Garden, and The Collected Stories of Moacyr Scliar (1999), which won the National Jewish Book Award.
Any of these would make a good starting point for the curious reader new to his work.
every subject line starts and i am thinking... that is what I keep saying!
Thanks for "Life of PI", watched the movie and it is beautiful and meaningful,
and I gotta say now I need to read your book! :D
Scliar reportedly considered suing Martel for plagiarism, saying, “To be influenced by other writers is very common, mainly when someone begins writing and has not developed his own style yet. But to copy is something very different. It is plagiarism.”
I believe he has duly gave credit to Moacyr Scliar in his book and in many interviews as a source of his inspiration!
I would love to know what he has to say about the controversy surrounding the book Max and the Cats, written by Moacyr Sclair. Reading Life of PI, it is impossible not to think that this is a plagiarism.
Scliar would probably be even less well-known to American readers if Martel had not appropriated the central conceit for his Man Booker Prize-winning 2002 novel, The Life of Pi, from one of the Brazilian author’s most famous books, Max and the Cats (1981). As almost everyone knows, Martel’s book features a boy sharing a life raft with a tiger. In Scliar’s earlier novel, a boy shares a life raft with a jaguar.
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You've got to admit, it's an unusual premise for a book: a little boy survives a shipwreck and winds up sharing a lifeboat with a large, predatory cat. Sound familiar?
. But it also turns out to be the plot of book called "Max and the Cats," by esteemed Brazilian writer Moacyr Scliar ... which was published in 1981.
Scliar said he was hurt not only by Martel's comments about his work but because he felt Brazilian culture was being slighted.
"It's unfortunate that now, when Brazilian literature is being abundantly mentioned abroad, it's because of this bizarre incident. I consider Brazilian literature to be of the first magnitude, and I would like our culture to be judged on its own merits.
Can someone here list the similarities between Max and the Cats by Moacyr Sclair and Life of Pi by Yann Martel?
Does the story by Moacyr Sclair also resembles cannibalism, god, lost, anger, fighting demons and survival?
I have not read Max and the Cats but the point I'm trying to make is the following.
If someone makes a movie named Alive about the 1972 Andes flight disaster, does it mean that the movie named The Grey with Liam Neeson is plagiarism?
Max Schmidt grew up in the stockroom of his father's fur store, cloaked among the foxes, minks, and leopards, hiding from the glaring eyes of a stuffed tiger atop the wardrobe. It is here he dreams of traveling to distant lands; and here, as a young man, he begins an affair with the store's married clerk.
This guy is a genius!
He is a liar and a bad one! Read both books and you will see
His son goes to my school and I see him once in a while
Does anyone know who he refers to at 29:25? John someone?
John Updike, I think.
If Martel never read Scliar, how did he (allegedly) so maliciously plagiarize the Scliar novella?
what did he copy? I don't understand, please elaborate..
Considering the corrosive critical reaction Yann Martel received for his most recent novel, last year’s Beatrice and Virgil, it may turn out that his most lasting contribution to literature will lie in accidentally alerting English-language readers to the existence of Moacyr Scliar, who died yesterday at the age of 73.
I am not "nothing", but I would be glad to be "nothing" ...and die with a sound and honest mind.
Mucio Sa what are you indicating?
Yann Martel, the Canadian author and winner of this year's Booker prize has become entangled in a row over the plagiarism of fictional ideas after freely admitting the inspiration for his prize-winning novel came from another writer's work.
Great copy of Moacyr Scliar. Congratulations, you know copy very well...
Literature builds on literature; myth builds on myth.
Seth Castiglione where does it begin?
My name is Fatima, I am from Russia. My angel said to me in my dreams (10 dreams at night) that
the ''Life of Pi''- is about the fall of the Apofis meteorite on Hawaii 17 and 22 yers after (He said
''There will be a blast''),and that this book and movie have been dictated to the Canadian author and
thedirector. In the book the ship sinks near the Hawaii islands (Midway) at 4 o'clock of morning
21 June 1977(p.149) while Apofis will fall at 4 o'clock April 13,2029.The book was written in 2002.
Premise may be the same but meaning and story are entirely different.
Nops... read both books and you will see it.
it saddens me that people saw the movie before reading the book, the book was a masterpiece whilst the movie was mediore, i was stoked to see the adaptation and was seriously dissapointed
kiitos
Yann should have written Wilfred
Is it just me or does a British accent creep into his speech every few words?
Mariam Oh. Now that I losten carefully, you’re right
Qna: what's an allegory?
i have krippling depression
So a sorry and a mention in a page of the book is enough for stealing someones idea and making money out of it?
Forced to flee when his lover's husband discovers the affair and denounces Max to the Nazi secret police, Max steals away to Hamburg, where he takes passage on a freighter destined for disaster. When the ship founders somewhere off the coast of South America, Max is trapped in a dinghy with a hungry jaguar. Max believes his days are numbered-until he washes ashore on the coast of tiny Porto Alegre, Brazil, prepared to begin anew in the tropical clime. Thats It!!
what is yann Martel's accent? I don't get it
Mohammed izhan bhat it might be canadian but i'm not 100%
Canadian pronunciations of certain words sound strange to the ear of American and UK English speakers. His is a very Canadian accent.
niryaad oblum He is French Canadian, but does not speak it well, according to me. Probably because he chose to live in an English-speaking province of Canada.
life of pi = marvelous
I find his views on faith absolutely revolting.
His approach to life is revolting... street corner pickpocket.
I disagree, if you look for the question without prejudice you'll can see the truth... Yann Martel is a canadian that thought steal a good idea from someone from a latin american coutry could be a good deal... but it's not! He can swim in the money, but what about his conscience?
it doesn't surprise me at all...
O cara é um Plagiarist!!! Não importa se ele leu uma resenha ou o livro todo. Poderia pegar uma frase dos Beatles e transformar em sucesso, porém não é permitido! Sorry!
Aprendam português, I don't want to write in English!
And you're "nothing."
This is The plagiarism plague....
Plagiarist!!!