Scotland: Is the desire for independence growing? | DW Documentary
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
- Britain is in the throes of a serious economic crisis and many Scots are wondering if things wouldn’t be better if their country was independent. Although it lost a referendum on independence back in 2014, the Scottish government still wants out.
Many Scottish voters support Scotland’s nationalist First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, including musician Neil Mackay. A long time supporter of independence, Mackay organizes large-scale demonstrations, where thousands of people protest in favor of leaving the UK. Rising energy and food prices are hitting people hard, the length and breadth of the country . One of them is single mother Sandra MacPherson. Like many others, she has been on a very tight budget this winter. Advocates of Scottish independence blame Westminster for their plight, whereas opponents blame the Scottish government. First Minister Nicola Sturgeon and her party, the SNP, have long made it clear they favor a fresh referendum; but in November 2022, the UK Supreme Court ruled that a new referendum may only take place with British government approval. As with Brexit, the issue of independence is proving a divisive one.
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I love Scotland. Wish they did more documentaries about it.
*Scots should vote for*
*Patriotic Alternative Scotland*
@@ruairi4901 For the record people, patriotic alternative are neo nazis.
Isn't the BBC doing so? If so do they also have topics that might be challanging opinions as i would expect some of the brexiteers would think this propaganda?
@@kinngrimm Yes, like babies born genderless you mean ?
@@tinaforbes1059 you have heared about that, crazy isn't it
I visited Scotland few months ago (I am South East Asian), and suprisingly to me, the people are soooo friendly. It’s my first overseas trip, and I’m glad that it was Scotland. Hoping for the best for Scottish People
Cheers mate we welcome all
@@NoMoreToriesAnymore and you should not like some other countries
อยากไปบ้างครับ
@@DeptalJexus what language is that ?
@@adithiarjun6764 Thai. I assumed a person who identify like that might be Thai.
Long live free Scotland 🏴. Love from Quebec 😉
Long live Scottish unionism.
@@MisterPolitical1 I'm all for Scottish unionism. Unions in Scotland are good. The UK union is bad for Scotland though. I can't wait until we leave it.
@MsMissysss are replying it to @TheNmecod?
All hail Canadian federalism, Tous saluent le fédéralisme canadien.
All hail Canadian federalism, Tous saluent le fédéralisme canadien.
Love scottland! Canada is forever grateful to the people of scottland Who built our country
😂
My aunt was one of them, sadly never got to see her in Canada.
Was mainly built by the English and the French.
Your love for it might be more convincing if you knew how to spell it.
They also built America too
build YOUR country? Your country? I think you mean helped to STEAL the country.
I love the Scots! I am from South America, Brazil. When I was in UK for an internship the best people I met were the scots. They are very kind and respectful with people from different countries.
Indeed we are. Friendlier, more generous and more hospitable than the cold hearted, snobby English.
@@SonsofThunder1234 Generous? They wouldn't spend a penny to serve you a bev if you visited them in their home I was told.by a Scot who was born overseas....true or false
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Yea I have a Scottish friend who I met in Asia. Literally one of the most smartest people I met .full of compassion for people and was just so well interested and involved in the lives of humanity. Didn't care anything about nationality, friend or foe. Few people can understand that people are people
@@barry3012 go cry yourself to sleep Nigel…….
I was a student in Newcastle between 2012 - 2015. I took the chance to visit Scotland just 2 days before the independence referendum. I stayed there for 3 days. The atmosphere was really bizarre. It is a lifetime question but the Scotts treat it like a party. They vote in droves and celebrate it like it is a big party or something. Now I am back in Singapore, whenever someone asked me the past of the UK, I always say Scotland. 😍😘 It is just beautiful. And my Scottish friends are some of the friendliest bunch of people I ever met. Whatever the opinion of the majority of the public Scots now, I just wish to visit it again someday.
Divided, once proud nation, ruined by the SNP!
@@Pennyburn1688 😅 I do know about the SNP and stuffs since I study just south of Hadrian Wall, but I have no comments or easily speaking, my opinion is worthless since I do not live in Scotland. But it is a proud nation and I would love to visit it again someday. ☺️
@@Pennyburn1688 I am speaking from Canada and would love to visit one day while I still can travel . Scotland is still a proud country viewed from the outside at least. Because of wide political swings a lot of countries are starting to feel divided including Canada . That feeling is even within my own province ( Ontario ) . I am with Nizam , I don't have an opinion regarding Scotland's future direction because I don't know enough about what will happen if you stay or leave the UK . I just hope for the best for Scotland . Cheers
@@Pennyburn1688 What is it about democracy that you dont like.
Scottish people vote for them, and our elections use a form of PR unlike Westminster's First past the post where 37% of the vote results in an 80 seat landslide.
Talking of nations and ruination, 62% of Scots voted to save the UK from the most recent bout of economic suicide and you complain about the SNP 🤭
Saor Alba!
@@Pennyburn1688 You must of forgotten that every part of the UK is divided on many issues due to social media , Westminster incompetence & biased London based journalists , all governments make mistakes , but the never-ending insidious corruption , self-serving , pompous & wasteful UK government have lost any credibility , it is so embarrassing to the rest of the world .
I love Scotland!!!! And their beautiful Scottish accent!!!! Extremely proud people!!!! Greetings from Serbia!!!!!
I am 🏴 and I too hope for an independent 🏴. Hope you all get it one day!
I love Scotland so much. Something about their culture and history spurs me to do more research about Scotland overall.
When I was a kid, I learned about Scotland's history in Age of Empires 2, and I liked Scotland more than England.
Wow that’s great ❤
Hello Dear Julie you looked so beautiful ❤
@@Leo-gt1bx
The only threat to Scottish Culture is if the Scottish Nationalists drag them back into the E U.
And make Scotland just a region of their Pan European Ethno State .
@@dgesghong5168 Yes. Scotland was WAY more Empire-minded than England ever was. Supported more slave-plantations and built more slave ships than ever happened in England. Pound for pound it really should have been called the Scottish Empire.
I’ve always been fascinated by Scotland culture and history
Scythian
Me too.Saor Alba,join the EU
Yeah the Braveheart movie was good!
*Scots should vote for*
*Patriotic Alternative Scotland*
I am Scottish I wonder if Bavaria, Corsica and Barcelona were granted independence referendums, would they take it? Corsica and Bavaria are about 50 - 70% likely, so why don't France and Spain have local parliaments that can become plebiscite independance systems?
something ive noticed in this documentary is most proponents of independence are either the normal folk who are struggling and the people defending the union are in a pretty comfortable position
That's because those people are targeted with lies and given the impression all their problems will be fixed overnight by this single issue. But it won't, and that's what the rest of us recognise.
Holyrood has plenty of powers devolved to it, but it plays on the emotions of people, especially younger people or disadvantaged people, by stating that the problems exist because of Westminster. What people don't realise, is that the power is devolved so it is not for Westminster to address the issue, that competence is with Holyrood - but the SNP has been in power for well over a decade, and they've used that time exclusively and in whole to push the agenda of independence, even when it has come at the detriment of every other aspect of life.
People are unhappy with all the other aspects of life being ignored, but instead of Holyrood just addressing the issues and fixing the problems, they use the situation to blame Westminster. It's a situation where Holyrood has manufactured problems and allowed them to escalate, just to use it for political reasons to cause division.
And that, is precisely why the SNP is on track to lose most of their seats in our next election, because the people who had been hoodwinked by this party are starting to realise that the question of independence is separate to normal function of everyday life and governance, of which Holyrood is responsible, not Westminster.
I love Scotland . Beautiful country and people
All the best
Thank you.
Visit Scotland in 88'. You people treated me like a brother. Wishing the Scottish their personal resolve, in what best for them.
The garden festival was grand!
Thankyou for your comment. Support for Scotland is overwhelming.
As a Galician, I love the Scottish people. We are so much alike :)
I am a Galician, I love the Scottish people. We are not so much alike, sorry. Scottish people have a real sense of community. They are not supremacists and value people around by their goodness, not by their wealth as Galicians do. Scottish people are honest and open-minded. Galicians have the highest expertise in hiding what they think and shit about everyone behind their back.
Galicia is great, a local butcher sells frozen galician octopus, when I cook it I think of wonderful times holidaying near Coruna, in the Ribiera Sacra, and visiting the cathedral of St James.
Well we are the same people. We are all from Celtic tribes! Hence the bagpipe being so popular in Celtic lands, Breton, Cornwall, Galicia etc
You are right, Galicia and Scotland are two similar lands in many aspects. It would be nice if Galicia took example of the need, good sense and convenience of independence that exists in Scotland.
Now half of the population is economic migrants.
I'm half Scottish and half English and it breaks my heart to see these rural Scottish people completely ignoring the fact the Tories are wrecking all of the UK which isn't the South of England. I grew up in a very deprived mining town and the life is nae harder than up in Scotland. I hope I can get a passport if it does happen lol.
Yo Apoyo A La Independencia De Escocia Me Encanta Las Tradiciones Y Las Gaitas Mi Favorita Es Highland Sights Escocia Es Un País Muy Hermoso Y Viva La Independencia De Escocia 🏴
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@@marcelinohernandez1959¿Eres español o catalán? Saludos desde Irlanda.
Divide and rule policy the Western backfired😂😂
Yes we know. Join us and let’s fight for democracy together.
Scotland is an amazing country🏴🏴
X2 🇲🇽🤝🏴
That mother and her children breaks my heart a bit. She may be struggling so much with energy and food yet she still protects her children from those problems even though no one would blame her if she had to cut down on their games and fun. They say a crisis reveals the true nature of people…
But she can apparently afford a nice car...
@@SUSSDUE did you forget how she has to ration gas? And that car is pretty standard
@@SUSSDUE it was an average car. Having a car is not a luxury
@@tbtb-nm2ef it is a luxury to own a car.
@@crscot1322 Thats absolutely contextual. If there's no functional transit system, and you can't make it to work, medical appointments etc. you're kind of stuck. You can't make blanket statements.
I support Scotland 🏴 whatever they vote for!
But the king of England will send horsemen on the battle ground plus archers on the fields
@@Booze129 - Yes, you’re so right! King 👑 Charles III will lead them upon a mighty horse 🐴 with Queen Camilla beside him. What a true swords ⚔️ woman she is!?! Cutting down lives and families since the 80’s 🤣
What did they vote?
@@Booze129 ~The Republic of Scotland should stay (remain) with England in Great Britain economically but get rid of and abolish “all” ties with the British Royal Monarchy connections.
@@royjohnson465 how is that proposed to work? England would have an incentive to make things difficult for the Scots.
I always Love their cultural heritage, their country, countryside, even their language 'Gaelic', Everything is just fascinating
I thought Gaelic was Irish! My favorite artist of all time is Enya and she's from Ireland and in all of her albums she will sing a song or two or more in Gaelic.....those tend to be my favorite songs on her albums.
@@ronrendon As per my knowledge Welsh, Irish and Scottish are of Celtic ethnicity so both have common origin and language as well at one point
Less than 1% speak it, yet our failed government insist on wasting millions on bilingual signage.
@@pohordebbarma4505 Welsh speak Brythonic and Irish ( and thus Scots) speak Gaelic. Different branches of the Celtic language tree.
I love Scotland. Glasgow and my native Pittsburgh, PA are sister cities. If I didn't live here, I would live in Glasgow in a heartbeat, the people there are something else. I love this country and wish the best for them.
Now half of the population is economic migrants.
@@Stallion_1044 A majority of Americans are descendants of economic migrants.
I love Scotland it’s my home but I cannot stand Glasgow it’s an Edinburgh thing we hate each other
Slaves of monarchy 😂😂😂
@@kiezorfc8559and I’m from an area between the 2 cities, I like both of them 🙂
power to the good people of scotland!
They need Mel Gibson to set them free
Thankyou for your support. One day, Scotland will be an independent country.
@@MT-rr1og another raging englitard
I love Scotland. One of my favorite countries in the world to visit.
Am from The Gambia but i have always love Scotland. I hope i can visit there someday
I am Scottish and support independence and I often wonder how many supporters of movements like Scotland matters realize that the guy that runs it is well off. His message comes from a perspective of WM is better for Scotland, because he is not struggling. He does not have to make the difficult choices that most Scots are having to make right right now, so for him all is rosy and he convinces his supporters that they better off in the union, when loads of them in fact ARE having to make the tough choices, because of decision made by WM, out with Scotland's control. It is frustrating to see rich people getting people to support things against their own interests.
If many Scots are struggling now as you say - how would independence fix that problem?
- eg - the cost of food & energy were highlighted as problems - how would independence fix those?
- which decisions made in Westminster caused these problems & what would the alternaives of an independent government be to fix them?
@@fraserct533 I realize this response is going to be considered ignorant and that is fine, even I will concede it is. Having said that though, my response to your questions is quite simply this: I don't care anymore, it couldn't get much worse, but can get better.
During the 2014 referendum Scotland was told a great many thing would happen IF Scotland voted for independence. Some of these were:
We would have higher cost of clothing, we would see higher costs of food, we would see rises in prices of everything, we would see a major jumps in energy costs, we would definitely see austerity and the list goes on.
Here we are now 2023 and 8-9 years later and EVERYTHING, that would happen to an independent Scotland has happened while part of the UK and there is literally nothing Scotland can do about it.
The media and the UK Govt, like to blame "external influences" like the pandemic and the Ukrainian war as the reason why the UK is getting hammered and they only partially right. What they don't mention is Brexit. This is something that Scotland has no say in at all, yet it is probably the single reason why the UK has the lowest growing GDP in Europe. Even with global pressures all G7 countries have recovered to pre pandemic levels, yet the UK is lagging. Not just lagging but it's economy is shrinking. We have increased imports and reduced exports, having put up trade barriers with our closest trading partners in favour of far flung places like Australia and New Zealand, that actually offer no growth to the UK GDP, by the UK Govt own impact assessment reports.
At least if independent, Scotland would have control of things like immigration, which would help greatly with the staff shortages across all sectors right now. We would be able to join the SM and CU - don't even need to be an EU member for that. Restore freedom of movement. Enter into our own trade agreements that will benefit Scotland, it's economy and it's people. I don't see any of this happening while in the UK, as something weird has taken hold of rational thought in WM.
One of the reasons stated by the UK ministers recently for Scotland not leaving, is that it is an energy rich country and it is our "obligation" to share that with the rest of the UK. Yet despite that being the case Scotland pays higher energy costs than anywhere else in the UK, why is that?
Right there is an export market for Scotland as even the UK admits it produces more than it uses. It seems to me that can only be good to grow an economy and also reduce the cost of energy for the Scottish people, reducing the trade barriers that are currently hampering trade with our closest markets, would start to see prices coming down, as it is extra tariffs, increased paperwork etc that is driving prices up. It is costing companies more to deal with the extra paperwork, and they cannot absorb those costs by themselves, so they pass some on, which ultimately ends up taking out the consumers pocket. Removing the extra paper work by joining the SM and CU, will bring prices down.
I know it's an ignorant comment but there it is. My view is go for broke, sever ties and sink or swim - BUT it is a challenge that I think the people of Scotland are up to, even those opposed to independence, when they start to see the benefits.
It would not be easy and there may well be hard times for a period of time, but at least we would be free to take appropriate steps to deal with what comes up - right now we cannot.
@@johncarney9049 a very long answer which I will take time to read & respond to - tx
Independence usually create harsh years to a decade but after that stuff usually gets better, just look at countries that improve after independence like Estonia and the Czech Republic.
An the political positions tend to be the usual : rich boomers(Pro stay) vs the poorer younger generations(pro independence).
I hope Scotland can get it's independence I think it would be the best for most people and a step to fully dissolve the British empire once and for all.
Gretting from México 🇲🇽
@@johncarney9049 It's not an ignorant response at all. With independence the Scottish people and government will have the power to shape Scotland, be it for better or worse. Rejoining the EU and/or previous trade agreements would be in your own hands. The independence movement that freed Ireland is a good historical comparison. The Brits said it wouldn't work because the Irish were just a bunch of poor, uneducated farmers. And it was tough going for the Republic of Ireland for many decades, but look at how it's transformed and is still transforming itself with help from the EU and without dictates from England.
"There shouldn't be such a thing [as "in work" poverty]". We in the US have known it for as long as I can remember, and I agree with her.
its the same all over the UK, Scotland is not alone in that.
uk has a duke on the throne
AMEN 🇺🇸 ✌🏻
Should be able to get by on a single income, 5 hours per day work, 2 bedroom house, and groceries. If people cannot afford housing, groceries, AND utilities on minimum wage, then the minimum wage isn't high enough.
@@angelachanelhuang1651 A Scottish one.
Love from France to Scotland and his people.
I am Scott and Jamaican. My heart goes out to Scotland!!!
Too good to be true brother
Love Scotland. When I visited I got fascinated by the people and the scenery. In Edinburgh, on almost every street and square there was a monument honoring some hero from an old battle against England. I wonder if the spirits of those brave ancestors are now commanding the new generations to look after themselves and be the ones to make history. Scotland doesn’t have an equal partnership with England, but has a lot of potential to grow inside the EU. A country with such a rich history and vibrant people doesn’t deserve to be ruled from London.
Absolute BS,just anglophobic obsession possess quite a few up there,Britain the sovereign country has equal status among nations worldwide,Ah pro EU but anti GB = ABE xenophobia eh.
@@mktf5582 ohhh bless an Englishman begs Scotland to stay and calls us xenophobic but the only xenophobes are the fascist democracy denying colonizers
@@britnatzaredemocracydenier5922 A Briton like me wanting preservation of our country Britain, Yip Scoatish colonisers who drove out Britons certainly were xenophobic eh.😏
@@britnatzaredemocracydenier5922 Majority of democracies worldwide ban secession, so Britain our country has no problem doing same eh.👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧😏
@@mktf5582 lol get off your knees and we scots need to start sabotaging this union from within
I was a student in Aberdeen between 2009 and 2013, Scotland is my second hometown.
Freedom for Scotland 🇨🇭❤🏴
@@andrewmunro8830 You're not even Scottish.
@@andrewmunro8830 try hard Boris Jihadists BOT
@@MmmM-uo6ti Charming. Not sure you know what a bot is, mate. You've also failed to address the actual substance of the issue here.
Carry on.
@@andrewmunro8830Says the intimidated folk.
it is.. and a net receipiant of english tax money to prop up scottish economy
Lived several years in UK and always parted for the Scots.........never understood a word of what they said.....😁...... but I just loved the way they are and hope to go back and visit Scotland....💪
"....never understood.....said" you must have been in Glasgow, then 🤣🤣(I'm Glaswegian BTW). Glad you enjoyed Scotland so much 😊
Much support from France.......You deserve..
Auld alliance ✊
@@michellemcmanus2729 Ah your Braveheart tendencies and Anglophobia are seeping out fellow Brit.😂😂😂👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Corsica and Brittany need to secede from France eh.
@@mktf5582 bless the British military trolling unit the 77th brigade accounts are getting desperate to keep Scotland's vast resources shackled to england
@@mktf5582 lol keep begging fella you lot are well known knee benders to the English establishment look at the amount of triggered comments you have left embarrassing
lived in Glasgow for three years 2011-13..Scots are beautiful and hard-working people..all the best to the second greatest country on Earth, next to my own of course😇 you're great whatever happens..regards from the Philippines😎
LOL loads in Glesga have never worked a day in their lives "hard working".😂😂😂
Philippines is the worst. Run by corrupt officials 😂
@@mktf5582 🤣🤣🤣 .
@@tinaforbes1059 🤷♂️👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧😊😂
@@mktf5582 Eat enough chips, get a free car!
Hope the best in future for Scottish people
Hello Dh4n1e Lee how are you doing can we chat please 🙏
Full support for their independence 🏴
Why?
support Scotland hattsoff to Scottish population that they stand against autocracy of Britain soon we see new country scotland
@@ashishgoswami4304 never gonna happen now though
@@jamestyler12JT it's your fairytale but reality is something else as Britain deserves it due to his misdeeds in past and present too i have many Irish and Scottish friends they hate Britain
@@ashishgoswami4304 first off all. Scotland is a part of Britain, so we’re similarly to blame for our misdeeds. And second of all, there’s a scandal about the SNP (pro independence party)seemingly every day. They’re losing support rapidly, it’s at 33% support now. Scottish people hate England, not Britain otherwise they’d just be hating themselves. Irish hatred towards Britain is somewhat justified. Please understand Britain is the island comprised of Scotland, England and Wales. The UK is that plus Northern Ireland.
Thanks DW for making this documentary we can't expect BBC to do this stuff😅
There was a independence vote less than 10yrs ago. DW is just doing a weird propaganda piece. We all saw where EU & Germany stood when Catalonia had a vote.
So true. BBC Scotland - "fitba and murders". Scotland deserves better.
@@numanunees2597 The vast majority of Catalans didn't vote because it was an illegal referendum, therefore almost the only people voting were the ones who wanted independence. If only one group votes, you can get whatever results you like
I'm English and I live in England but I'm a very strong supporter of Scottish independence and I hope they get another referendum and that they vote yes!!
Same... We won't have to bail them out any more like the English had to do last year when sturgeon spent all their money.
I'm English and don't really have an opinion , i think the criminal elite are xxxking us all over, and people cant see it
@@sw1000xg Just remember in Scottish waters we had as much oil as Norway did how much of that do you think was reinvested in Scottish economic growth?
@@anderzwa LOL the entire Scottish economy is just over 205 billion.
A 1/3rd of that comes to the UK
Imagine tariffs and borders it would destroy the Scottish economy
@@sw1000xg Not if they joined the EU.
As an American, I'm always in favor of independence from the British!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 rooting for you, Scotland. Your sovereignty is long overdue.
edit: I was hoping I wouldn't have to clarify this, but to be clear, I wanted to play into the stereotype of Americans unnecessarily making everything about themselves 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
But I do think Scotland's sovereignty is long overdue. I do think this conflict is best resolved by Scottish secession. However, the American revolution is definitely not my reason, it's not even a good reason, and I cannot overstate how little the average American cares about 1776 lol. No more splitting hairs please 😘
@@andrewmunro8830 in a unanimous decision that wasn't contentious at all 😉
Well said 👏
@@andrewmunro8830 Anglo you don't have any mates.
The Scots are British, so I assume you mean Independence from the English. However a Scottish King created the UK so its not really an English creation to begin with.
@@shjall times have changed now. and they could pursue that. convince your Westgangster to have a change of heart.
Scotland is one of the greatest countries I've ever been to. I hope the Scots can get the independence they deserve!
Not all Scots want independence
Regarding the ugly times we live in, I think that a lot of small weak countries all over will be a disaster to the "normal" part of the world. Bandits like Russia and China are rubbing their hands!
This is why propaganda is so effective! It gets the emotional response out of people. As commoners and the average voters lack context. Scots did get a chance for a referendum and voted No. With simple mathematics most scots voted no. So is the standard for feminized democracies to continue to vote until the pre-desired outcome is achieved by the puppet masters? Seems to be the trend for these types of government.
@@andrewmunro8830 Yup but you know how propaganda works, it gets the emotional response out of people. And since the west currently believes in everyone getting a say, its so easy to sway the average person.
@@dblezi Why should Englanders like ye get a say? Europe didn't get a say on Brexit.
People like Alan Sutherland who are very comfortable middle class are kind of people who put their own well being before that of their fellow countrymen." I'm alright Jack" I wonder how he's enjoying BREXIT !
I'm 76 years old and peripatetic by nature. I've lived in Scotland for nine years. It's a hard place to leave... 🏴
Praying for Scotland's safety, love from India
Thankyou. If you want to support the great nation of Scotland, don't do a trade deal with UK as it will ultimately benefit England. Just trade with EU. Then when Scotland gains it's independence and rejoins EU, Scotland will also benefit from a trade deal with India. Do not give your wealth to England.
@@SonsofThunder1234 I don't think India would let it's former coloniser exploit it again. By former coloniser I'll refer to the entire Great Britain here (not Northern Ireland).
@@andrewmunro8830 Well, they are a part of UK, so I mean... They should be
@@PasscodeAdvance India is considering a trade deal with UK though. It MUST NOT happen. India should only trade with EU.
@@SonsofThunder1234 but you have to fight for it, we can't ask our PM that or a foreign minister, you should make world realise situation of Scotland
Giving a shout-out from India... "Scotland, come on mate. What's taking you so long to kick out the Brits?" :)
Scotland are Brits.
Poverty has been a big driver of what has/will happen in the UK. Some voted to leave the EU under the pretence that their life would improve i.e. more local investment, particularly in the impoverished north of England. That investment didn't materialise... My concern is that history will repeat and independence won't be the silver bullet some hope and it will make things worse. I think the UK needs some deep political reform to start healing as the current conservative / nationalist combo isn't really helping the people, it's half the problem.
Agreed. Would be nice to be proud of my country again, hopefully we can rid ourself of the nationalism and isolationism, this shade looks bad on us honestly
Poverty is lower, in particular child poverty, in Scotland specifically because of who we vote for. History tells us we'd be better with pretty much anything other than what the English electorate backs.
Theyre centre right and were centre left. Don't see why we can't just go our own way amicably rather than Westminster blocking the democratic process.
@@Steven-ly9ei what's not to be proud of?
Look what's happening to Pakistan. Then India will follow. China will be eating people over seventy in ten years. The UK needs to keep its lights off. Let Europe get buried in the avalanche of people. You've decided to let 16 year olds believe something that has worked for over 2.5 billion years isn't true. Says a lot. Giving Scotland independence is as bright as opening a childcare centre in a mosque.
@John Buie the way we treat migrants, the way we talk about people who come here for help, instead of finding practical solutions to the problems we can just call them names :)
same deal with workers basically, call em militant, kill their right to strike.
It's shameful. I'm ashamed us English keep voting for this crap. They do awful things so either the people are voting for awful things to happen or they aren't using the muscle between their ears at all when they do so.
I just imagine how it must look. Any other country we'd call it oppressive.
I love Scotland. One of my favorite countries in the world to visit. It is a beautiful country! I hope the people will get what they have been wishing for. Good luck!
We are not an oppressed people.
Thankyou for your support. One day we will be free of the shackles of England and it's dreadful people.
They wish or we wished to stay we had a referendum and we voted to stay loudnand clear
@@CardiffUlster times change
@@CardiffUlsterHave Wales not realized things have changed since 2014?
I have the upmost respect for Scotland. For it's people, the land and for it's culture. 🏴 I'd love to visit there one day. So here's a peace offering to show my love from my country to yours. 💐
Cheers from the 🇺🇲
@kallclan Thank You for the kind compliment. ✌🏻
I love Scotland and her kind people greetings from 🇹🇷
Greetings of solidarity from Indonesia. Freedom and justice for all !
@Jim Rolfe even the papuans don't like the separatists
Thankyou for your support.🏴
@Jim Rolfe That Rebelions separatist was Funded by Netherlands Kingdom back in years 1925.
Oddly enough I noticed that those against independence are well-off Scotts; not the "little" people.🤔 That should be an indication on their motivation 😏 Stay strong Nationalist Scotland!
Tories = capitalism
I think well educated would be the correct term
Same issues on the other side of the world. Not just the UK struggling with cost of living. Politicians will tell you what you want to hear to suit their agendas.
I moved to Scotland 40 yrs ago. I reckon my life has been better than if I had stayed in Yorkshire, and better still than if I had moved South.
In general , the farther North you live in Britain, the happier your life, but we still complain about being short changed by those in the South.
We are though
YES for Scotland, dream for century.
As someone from Germany I think it would be very great to see an independent Scotland as part of the European Union. When the next opportunity for independence comes, I really hope that the Scots don't sign it away again...
Scots did back independence in 2014 however EU nationals and other born elsewhere in the UK (new Scots) didn't.
If they become part of EU i would def leave England and more north:) being born in EU i will always want to be part of it. So would many other, im sure. Scotland could attract many of us and our business.
@@rainbowdrive1961
Would of won.
Americans save ur backside.!!!
Support from Russia, the independence of Scotland will be the final nail on the coffin, on the dominance of UK in world politics and it's GDP
@@socio-economicnewsnetwork4740 Russia will die first.
I've been to Montrose in Scotland. Beautiful town. When the Kingdom of Scotland becomes independent once again, i will visit the country.
I have lived in Aberdeen 1 year. I wish them the best in any scenario.
THIS OUR NATION WE SHOULD CHOOSE OUR OWN FUTURE
We did. Thankfully the seccessionist eejits lost.
We had a vote and we did.
Britain said the same thing when voting for Brexit, and we all saw how that turned out. I love the selective amnesia of the Scottish people... the bogus economic arguments, as well as rhetoric about control and independence are the same whether you're talking about Brexit or Scottish independence, but the latter would be far worse for the people it affects.
Scotland people deserve to decide their own future, whether it is stay or leave!
Sadly we know the pain of having a bully try to decide our future here too...love from sovereign nation of Taiwan!
All the best to Taiwan from Canada!!! I have great admiration for your country and would love to visit one day. 🇨🇦❤️🇹🇼
Support from Russia, the independence of Scotland will be the final nail on the coffin, on the dominance of UK in world politics and it's GDP
We are with you Taiwan, we in Lithuania don't fear the CCP.
@@tnickknight Lithuania is an insignificant nation.
@@mrcapybara3579 haha the CCP has been taking massive action in relation, a we told those criminals where to go. What nation do you come from that would bow to such a vile government
Scotland is a beautiful place and the people were friendly to me. I will say it never made sense to me that they aren’t separate in the first place…. Scotland and England are TOTALLY different.
Great informative documentary regarding the beautiful country of Scotland
Viva La Independencia De Escocia Y Un Futuro País 🏴
Me Encanta La Musica De Gaitas Mi Favorita Es Highland Sights 🇲🇽🤝🏴
Every state and person should be able to decide over themselves and be independent from other people or other oppressive and more powerful states.
Each individual person can establish a country?
@@the_indelible_onion yeah, make your own Soviet Onion
@@dingdingdingding2871 sounds delicious 🤤
The United Kingdom isn't oppressive to Scotland in anyway and it is not powerful over Scotland it is powerful FOR Scotland. Independence will cause it to be oppressed and controlled by more powerful nations.
@@lukemurray4950 exactly. This is why Scotland was given the referendum. We are a democratic nation.
Documentaries showcasing the unspeakable beauty of this nation could captivate me endlessly. They're utterly fascinating. I align myself with the aspirations for Scotland's independence, yet I also share a small understanding with those who harbor apprehensions about the potential instability that such transformations might introduce.
Great doc.
I would love to visit Scotland.... the country❤🔥
🏴🏴🏴
it is a country
You can. Anytime you want.
You will be most welcome.
I am visiting Scotland this summer. If it does becomes a country, I guess I can check mark it as another country in my bucket list lol.
09:55 what a shock that the man who made good money most of his life and currently has enough money to 'comfortably' retire in peace doesn't want the status quo to change. Wealth begets ignorance and discourages empathy.
Well said Doctor ! We need a universal Revolution to remove all the Oppressive governments and Establish a World governing by the people themselves ... I it is a long way to go before it can happen .
Well I mean he has a point. If a government can't manage independence then the Scottish people might be even worse off than before. All of this is up to the Scottish people to decide of course.
Exactly! The longer they stay tethered to them, the harder it will be once separated.
Also, he is old and doesnt want to have a new referendum, younger Scots who were not able to vote in 2014 have to be given a chance too, times are changing rapidly...
Yeah he's spending his early retirement in his million pound home on his computer trying to keep the rest of the country in poverty 🙄 this is socialism vs capitalism!!
I just love that they had to voice over the guy at 00:58 😅 must have been a very strong accent
If scotland leaving the UK I would be very sad
I feel their pain and I admire their courage to fight for a fairer society. Of course, separating from the UK would be a very painful and expensive process, but it would also allow Scottish people to join the EU again and in the long run, it could be a good move for them. The UK shot themselves in the foot with Brexit.
It was the EU that got Europe in this Russia dependency!
yep independence is good but not for britain , hypocrisy
do all these eu lovers support catalonia independence?
Scotland had a independence vote less than 10years ago unlike any other terrority with independence aims.
@@robharris8844U who is that? UK had plenty chance to not be dependent n it was Westminster who choose to get rid of gas storage and block renewable energy
Very informative and reflective
Thank you for watching and for the positive feedback!
It’s like cutting off our main outside source of supplies was a bad idea 🤦♀️
I only visited Scotland once in my life, as a child, when I was a nine year old boy, in the summer of 97, during a summer holiday with my parents and three siblings. We stayed in a small town called Aviemore, not far from Inverness for a month,. I recall my brother and I, playing football with two local boys, David and Peter, almost everyday in the backyard of our holiday rental, before we went off on our adventures in the Scottish Highlands. We used to play matches and switch teams. Like, they’d be Glasgow Rangers and we’d be the Celtics. Or we’d be Argentina and they’d be Germany 😆 😂
This reminded me of them. I hope they’re doing well, and they’ve managed to have a wonderful life for the past 26 years. It made me realize how life can be so different, for people that were once a part of yours, even if they were, for a mere month only. I hope they both have solid jobs, unscathed by unemployment, alcoholism, drug abuse, divorce, health problems, or poverty. I truly hope they’re somewhere in Scotland or elsewhere, and truly happy or at least content with life.
Lovely comment ❤
From this documentary, it seems in general:
Poor people/middle class- vote for independence
Rich people-oppose independence.
You might want to add: young, progressive Scots seek independence (edit: with the hope to join the EU again), older conservative ones less so
Similar to brexit, but most of those votes came from a poorer rural people rather than scotlands poorer urban people.
I guess that’s the case because poor people have to believe in something, whether it’s lottery tickets or a change of government something has to be the answer to make things better
The guys in the union club were hilariously offering the very reasons that "Boris and co" offered... when leaping off the brexit cliff
Totally agree.
And the same demographic that voted in mass for brexit...
@@worldgonecrazy Hmm the working class in England that voted for Brexit did so because they were financially desperate after years of austerity and were seeking any solution being promised. Unfortunately they were easily intentionally misled by to use that frustration to vote Brexit. Ironically, that same desperation exists in Scotland, but is unlikely to blame the SNP or Holyrood for the their troubles- they'll blame Brexit and WM. So naturally, even if they don't think their situation will improve right away, they will start to support independence more and more.
The Unionists, being generally fairly wealthy and older, and not sharing of these concerns, I don't think quite grasp the situation. The arguments they make might sound convincing to those of their own mindset and circumstances, but not to those who lost their shop or can't heat their homes due to the rise of costs because of Brexit. Trying to make the case against independence will be like trying to roll an increasingly heavier ball uphill until it just refuses to go farther and rolls down squashing you in the process. The longer this is dragged out for, the heavier that ball will get. Both WM and the pro-Unionists, I think made a strategic error in not holding a referendum as soon as possible- as it is certain another will be held at some point and it can only garner more support with time. They had an outside chance here 2023, but I doubt they will after that.
I would vote for Scotland to get their independence, but I live in England so won’t get much say in it. Hopefully it will happen quickly.
Why?
@@yashrajdixit4412
Because Scotland deserves freedom, they deserve the right to rejoin the EU, they deserve to be citizens of a republic and not merely the subjects of a monarch
Hopefully they don't
@@wabalaladabdab 😂
I am from Ireland and independence has been the best thing to ever happen our country so I wish Scotland luck in their fight for freedom 🇪🇺🇮🇪🏴
Great work by DW as it showcases multiple sides of the story
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@@DWDocumentary your formats of 20-30 minute documentaries are great - don't stop!
@@DWDocumentary Thankyou to DW. Good to have your support for Scotland🏴
As part of the UK, Scotland has been going through austerity for over 12 years 🤣
the opposite of austerity is deficit spending. But for deficit spending you need someone who gives you credit to finance this deficit, a lot of credt, billions. Do you think an independent Scotland with a more leftist government would have a tripple AAA rating on the international finanial markets?
@@ekesandras1481 probably not, but that would be a product of the process of independence.
Brexit has caused the UK to be now classed as an 'emerging market' i doubt we could do worse.
@@ekesandras1481 triple A credit rating still affords a huge swath of people in poverty and homelessness
@@zernebock73 and yet Scotland is far more dependent on the rest of the UK than the UK ever was on Europe - I suppose it would gain 'emerging market' status rather quickly...
@@AGP335 dependent? Ask Ireland how that works.
Fully support Scottish with what ever they decide ❤️
The Scots decided to remain part of the Union not that long ago if my memory serves me correctly
@@gastonjoseph666 Scotland was lied too in 2014 ....
1. To remain in the e.u you have to vote to remain in the UK...lie
2. Treated as equals 🤦 lies
3. Devo max another lie from our fascist dictators
@@gastonjoseph666 your memory is biased though ya knee bending serf to the English establishment
@@gastonjoseph66662% of votes in Scotland were opposed to Brexit.
@@britnatzaredemocracydenier5922 like scottish nationalists want to bend ze knee to the eu!!!!
This is a really divisive and sensitive matter. I hope Scottish people get what they really want. Let the majority decide the fate of the country in a democratic and fair manner.
I'm a Canadian of Scottish descent. Maybe it's just my Jacobite ancestry speaking, but I support Scottish independence. If it comes with economic hardship then so be it. At least then it will be Scottish people deciding what is best for Scotland, not some indifferent official in London.
BRAVEHEART, freedom for Scotland! Supporter from Australia.
We have freedom. We don't want these idiot seccessionists messing things up even more than they have already. They lost the vote, now they want another one.
@Norman Ocampo Braveheart osnt a documentary! If Wallace had an affair with Isabella she would have been about 10 years old when he died and was living in France!
Thankyou for your support🏴 Didn't realize Scotland and the Scottish were so admired and respected by the rest of the world.
I went there last summer and it was unbelievable, edinborough one of the coolest cities in the world 🌍
Your accent alone just mesmerizes me, Always Loved Scotland 😍
Did they really dub' the guy talking at 1:02? 🤣 amazing
For or against independence the fact is that one union dragged Scotland out of it's other union against the will of its people. That totally changes the arguments and should in a democratic society allow Scotland to decide its own future. We deserve a referendum and soon.
You can go. I'll be happy to see all you whinging b....... go just to see the poverty you'll suffer.
You mean the Union of Crown by Scottish King James vI/i ? - or the Act of Union during the Scottish Steward Queen Anne's reign? ---- resulting in the baling out of Scottish debt post the Darian project ---- DW documentary - what's their agenda then?
@@philipfreyaborn8288 the monarchy is dying time to let Scots choose their own future
Keep having a referendum, until we get the vote , we want, sounds fair..
Eejit.
I am Scottish first, British second, European third and I can be all three simultaneously, whilst living in an independent Scotland as an equal member of the UK and the European Union.
That is what I strive for and so should anyone born in this great country, who believes and is confident in a strong Scotland, that is proud of its heritage, it’s abilities as a modern nation and its future.
Should fear be the decisive factor for ignoring the opportunity to become an independent nation and if so, what a truly sad way to live your life, when grasping opportunities, working tirelessly and striving for a bright future, should be what every person does as an individual in their life and together as a people for our nation.
Stop living your life in fear and grab the opportunity in front of you.
Are you living in fear, or hiding in fear, of a life that could see your children and grandchildren, wake up to a future to be proud of.
I'm an "Earthling" first, a European second, and Dutch third. I care more about the earth then about just the continent or the country I live in. Which doesn't mean I'm not proud of the country the Netherlands has become, but if needed I can move to another country (I've lived in the UK for years). Or another continent. But not to another planet.
I wish for an independent Scotland, because England, the rulers of the union, don't care about Scotland at all and treat it like a colony.
Alba gu bràth!
@Barry I have no idea who you're replying to, but let me answer that question.
- _"why are most English people happy for us to end the union"_ Which poll do you get this from? You're saying most English people want to see the UK break up, but I can't find any poll confirming that.
- Barry, why is the UK government actively blocking anything related to Scottish independence? The UK gets a lot more money from Scotland than what they send back, so they don't want to lose the goose that lays the golden eggs. It's in the interest of the UK to keep Scotland a part of it, to keep the Scottish money in England.
- How would the UK have reacted if after the EU referendum the EU replied with "that's not going to happen UK, you're not allowed to leave the EU"? They were already calling the EU a dictatorship and the EUSSR and other nonsense, but when the UK blocks even a referendum about Scotland's own future it is totally fine. It couldn't be any clearer that the UK is a dictatorship, with England as its dictator, and Scotland is a colony of England which isn't allowed to become independent. It's a disgrace.
@@andrewmunro8830 Okay, then what do you call a country that has to give most of the taxes it receives of its population to another country, can't make it own laws, and is not allowed to leave a union it doesn't want to be in? Tell me that, how do you call that?
@@andrewmunro8830 well that's factually incorrect, you're lucky if we get back 60% of what we put in.
@@andrewmunro8830 so we don't pay for anything Westminster does in England? The house of lords or a proportion of HS2?
We do.
Telling all brothers and sisters, don't do this work. don't be apart it hurts a lot
We're not your siblings.
I visited both London and Edinburgh within a week almost three years ago. I was surprised at the difference in the people, as the Scots in Edinburgh were consistently more friendly with my poor tourist person, and the atmosphere was just so much more lively when you went out. It's sad to see what Brexit is costing the British youth.
Why do you blame Brexit for that? London and Edinburgh are completely different cities - with completely different populations, ethnic and social cross sections.
Edinburgh has about the same population as Liverpool. Nowhere near comparable to London which has more than 15 times that.
Brexit best thing that ever happened
DW Documentary, vielen Dank wie immer 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Im a EU born English citizen. But if Scotland becomes part of EU I would def leave England and more north:) being born in EU I will always want to be part of a EU country. Scotland could attract many of us and our business especially now that we can work remote.
I'm an american. Although despite that, I want to move to any EU country, because the European Project has proven itself to be a truly beautiful thing. And I would love to contribute to it. With my mind, my labour, and my life.
Support from Russia, the independence of Scotland will be the final nail on the coffin, on the dominance of UK in world politics and it's GDP
@@socio-economicnewsnetwork4740 Sorry to disappoint but none of us in Scotland supports Russian aggression against the free people of Ukraine. I can see why you'd want to break up the UK though - you will fail.
@@tomk8729 If that post is even what it seems- with bots you never can tell. The only thing certain is that it is a bot trying to play mind games of some sort, so best to ignore them entirely.
@@socio-economicnewsnetwork4740 Spot the bot
With the current scottish government , Not a chance. and i am living in scotland.
I think Scotland should do whatever the majority wants. After the brexit fiasco I wouldn't blame them at all for going their own way. If it makes economic sense then go for it!!! All the best from Canada. Love the brogue!!! 🇨🇦❤️🏴
Thank you from Scotland. I just wish you Canadians could get rid of Trudeau. I have a Son and 2 Gran-daughters over there in Maple ridge BC.
It makes no economic sense at all. Look at all the whinging about the threat to 8% of Scottish exports from Brexit. England is 60% of Scottish exports. But in SNP lala land, somehow that's ok. But like any bunch of wokels, they have their own 'truth'.
@@audreymcgready4329 They can't do that . That wee boy is Klaus Martin Schwab's beloved son .
@@andrewmunro8830 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 👍.
@@tomk8729 Don't talk to me about la la land after Brexit. Did you get your unicorn yet?
Yes. It is growing.🏴
🤣😅😂 behave
No it isn't
I am Scottish. We have media suppression. Any journalist who can present the truth around Independence, the corruption of the so called 'union', is deemed uncomfortable by the British state and there is no doubt, there is a blacklist. Lesley Riddoch, a highly talented journalist is an example
England is old with an outdated royal authority. It's time for Scotland to initiate a full fledged movement for independence.
As an Indian, my sincere wishes to Scottish brothers and sisters.🇮🇳🏴
This would be a break from Westminister and not the monarchy....
The royal family have no true authority and haven't for years - their role is largely ceremonial.
@@lilywood6206 we Indians support you.
@@lilywood6206 then we stand with 🏴
Love all your documentaries ❤️❤️
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The oil is in scotland sir, therefore it's our oil and we are taking it with us when we go, we'll need it to negotiate our new future!! 🏴🏴🏴
Keep ur spirite on. I hope u are going to get the best result on 2024.
Warm gretting from Indonesia.
We support Scotland ❤
We should respect the decision of the people of Scotland 🏴
We should indeed - they voted to remain part of the UK.
Love Scotland, hope you guys gain your independence
from Malaysia
Support Breaking up Malaysia eh.
@Meow Meow eh...I think I know you from previous youtube video...haha small world
INDEPENDENCE FOR MALAYAN BORNEO!! ✊
@@notoriousfly9260 no no...we borneo still want to be part of Malaysia. Everything getting better now in Malaysia under Anwar Ibrahim...BTW im from Borneo Malaysia 😏😏😏
@Meow Meow no need for that now...Under Anwar Ibrahim everything getting better than before. BTW I'm from Borneo Malaysia. How you've been meow meow?
I felt like braveheart fought for the identity and freedom of Scotland.