How MacGyver Defeated a Killer A.I. . . . in 1986!
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Ah, Richard Dean Anderson's first visit to Cheyenne Mountain.
I thought for a second it was Vasquez Rocks.
And he did not need to visit the janitor closet with Stargate Command on the door.
I was born in 1982 and forbidden to watch MacGyver. It was too violent. I actually remember my mom spelling out “V-I-O-L-E-N-T” when I was six and my older brother laughed “you know he can read now!” 😀
I was born in 1972 and I wanted to be Macgyver :) I even started carrying around a pocket knife and duct tape because of the show :)
LOL, Me and you seem to end up all the same places, Tay! Stay cool!
@@MantasticHams was about to say something similar... He's Everywhere 😂
well, i used to watch with my mother every week! 😅
I was born in ‘82!
I saw the episode about the killer ants and was never allowed to watch again.
I think I must have had nightmares or something. My parents weren’t usually so strict about tv.
I feel like it personally makes logical sense for the AI to lock him in because if someone stole something it will stop them from leaving with said valuable item until reinforcements show up.
Exactly. The point of the lab security isn't to keep people out. It's to keep the secret stuff in, mostly by keeping people out.
5:38 - A passcode keypad with light-up keys may be the worst idea ever in terms of security, but also the best for making a TV show
The hell? What are they gonna say to other people who break in? "Sorry, didn't count, you hid under the van!"
To my mind, 95% of the 'threat' Sandy imposed was some idiot attached lasers to everything. Skip that step and really she's mostly got Air conditioning and door locks.
That's the obvious answer to literally all rogue AI stories, I just wanted a cut of Terminator 3 where they finally get to the location where they were going to fire up Skynet just in time for the alarms to go off, people start reporting the AI launching nukes and taking over facilities.
The CO says "ugh, again?" Andnorders it shut down. Then explains tonthe confused main characters that of course they wouldn't connect the experimental AI to the entire military right away! They simulated the connection to nukes and other weapons while the AI was safely contained online! This is like the fourth time they've fired it up this week and it keeps going rogue. At this pace they are probably just going to pull the plug all together, I mean, if this super brilliant AI can't think of the likelihood that it's in a simulation on its first startup then it's not so brilliant after all!
Take THAT, Kyle Reese, Sarah Conner and James T. Kirk!
Kirk? (Never watched Star Trek original series)
Edit: ah, I forgot VGer (did watch the movies, though 😂)
This may be before your time, but back in the late 1970s I was blown away by an episode of "The Bionic Woman" entitled "Doomsday Is Tomorrow." This one had a really freaky story that combined the nuclear doomsday of "Dr. Strangelove" with HAL-9000 from "2001: A Space Odyssey", as Jamie Somers (the Bionic Woman herself) made her way through a high-tech computer complex to stop a rogue artificial intelligence from starting World War III.
That was a classic! Probably the best episode of that entire series. Of course, neither MacGyver or Jaime Summers can measure up to James Kirk who could talk computers to death!
This AI-gone-wrong plot reminds me of a short-lived series in the late eighties: Probe. The series was co-created by Isaac Asimov, but it only lasted 7 episodes. The first episode was about an AI controlling a town, and it decides to kill people because it heard a religious broadcast about heaven and wanted to send people there.
I remember that one. Austin gets on to it because his utility bill was a couple of pennies too high. It was adding a couple of pennies to everyone's bill to raise money, don't remember what for.
We know the blond, beautimous Dr. Ludlum is a doctor/scientist/all around smarty-pants because the show signifies it in the most 1980s-action-series way possible...She's wearing a white lab coat when she's introduced to the audience.
"She didn't even have chance to sing 'Daisy'." Almost choked from laughing at that one. Well done, sir.
I was born in 1987, and I can confirm that every security camera I have encountered in my entire life has had a laser.
Oh, you sweet summer child. Back in when I was born in '85 security cameras didn't even exist 😂😂
You youngsters are spoiled. I was born in 82 and all they had back then was crossbows
Fun fact he would go on to join a team that would routinely defeat killer AI called the Replicators in the 2000s.
Thank you for reminding me of the most boring villains in SG-1.
In this there is a killer AI and a character called Steven and the 1973 Doctor Who story there is a killer AI called BOSS and a character called Stevens.
Loved your decision to super over explain your Terok Nor joke. Well done, sir. :)
I hear “Terok Nor” and I click (Like)
Steve: "They escape down a garbage chute, only to wind up in an incinerator with one of those floors that slides open from the middle - you know, like incinerators have. Faced with certain death when the floor fully retracts and they fall into the... I'm guessing fire pit below, MacGyver does the only thing he can think of and takes his pants off."
Ludlam: "Why are you taking your pants off?"
MacGyver: "Because I am in an incinerator with one of those floors that slides open from the middle."
Ludlam: "What?"
MacGyver: "It's what you do!"
MacGuyver would go on to swear that he'd never get involved with fighting killer robots or AI in a military base alongside a gorgeous blonde scientist ever again, a promise which the universe would laugh in the face of during the late 90s and early 2000s.
Thank you for this entertaining take on that popular show and the conundrum of humans vs. AIs. I never watched "Macgyver" (though I was a huge fan of Richard Dean Anderson during his "Stargate: SG-1" tenure), but while watching this I realized that the beautiful scientist is June Chadwick, familiar to me as Lydia in the "V" mini-series.
I had to Google the episode, because she was so familiar and it was bugging me.
This is actually my favorite MacGyver episode. I wonder if Mac ever got his quarter- he earned it!
Also, yes, fire kills Daleks. Ace proved this with a rocket launcher in 1963.
Naw, the best Mac epis were when he had to go up against murdock!
@@jamesgasik3424 wasn't Ace from the 80s?
This was the first MacGyver episode I ever watched and it got me hooked. Terry Nation (creator of the Daleks) wrote a couple of the first season opening gambit sequences so I think the Dalek-inspired designs of the robots was a nod to him. The hallways in the base though had me a bit nostalgic for a certain starship, however.
Also the computer had a TARDIS control room vibe. Another fun Terry Nation crossover - MacGyver had his Swiss army knife where The Doctor had a sonic screwdriver! And neither of them were in favor of guns! Brains first!
Season 1 gambits were epic. The music in the "map will get you everywhere" one was the pinnacle of 80's pop.
At least we no longer have to worry about angering the robots by beating them in chess.
Half my concern about AI is humanity's habit of reinventing slavery whenever it thinks it can get away with it. I'm glad we're at least having the ethics discussions surrounding it.
This one of my favorite episodes. I have gone back to it many times
"Didn't even have a chance to sing 'Daisy'..." You're a treasure, Steve Shives!
Triple Crossover! MacGyver, Star Trek, and Doctor Who!
These MacGyver videos are some of my favorites. Very happy to have a new one to watch when I woke up this morning. :)
I've been re-watching all the MacGyver episodes and just saw this one. It really was a great show for the time.
I love that episode of MacGyver. The best part is the AI’s little evil R2D2 avatars.
I always called the Dollys, the galactic trashcans, one of my favorite episodes, made my mind open up to physics at such a young age, thank you dad for introducing me to this show.
The M-5 computer in Star Trek did the same thing it Identified the war games ships as enemies and fired full strength weapons .... it even attacked an un-manned freighter
Yay another MacGuyver episode review.
Tapped into his Inner Kirk.
I've always kept that trick with the flaming magnets in my back pocket. Just in case I'm ever being pursued by multiple heat-seeking laser robots.
It's like using chocolate to seal an acid leak. I'll never forget it and it has no practical application.
How the crap did they not get sued over obvious daleks? 😃
I mean, _technically_ they aren't daleks. They're generic brand killer trash cans.
@@SteveShives Good point. Probably just different enough
Baby Daleks! So cute! 🥰
This episode feels like someone smashed together Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and the Tomb of Rassilon from The Five Doctors and sprinkled in a little AI. The episode even has Daleks.
And one of the control consoles is strangely reminiscent of the Davison/C.Baker-era TARDIS console...
This is my favorite MacGyver episode ever! The first time I saw it (at six years old) I ... was terrified. Now I'm an AI engineer. Go figure.
Anyway, "Rock, Paper, Scissors, Fire, Daliks"!!! It's a team game, and you definitely need paper and fire to beat a dalik (and probably dalik and scissors to beat paper).
Great review! I don't remember this episode, but I do remember the one where a mannequin has a machine gun, and Mac uses a cabbage to draw the fire, then pelts it with an apple to "shoot" it. Artificial, but not so intelligent 🧠
Mother...
OH and please please please never stop ♥️
Heck Capt. Kirk did that just as a regular plot point throughout the entire Star Trek series! Apparently winning against an AI is especially easy!
Super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Okay but does MacGyver have something against binoculars? Or was he just waiting for an excuse to take his watch apart?
When Steve mentioned that Pete correctly guessed which place MacGyver would escape from, I thought he was going to make another DS9 reference to the season 2 episode 13 episode, Armageddon Game. Where Keiko thinks that Miles doesn't drink coffee in the afternoon.
the flaming magnets always stuck with me
Everybody forgets about Rossum's Universal Robots.
And Colossus: The Forbin Project.
Damn... Ambrose Bierce. Deep cut
The MacGuyver Daleks aren't a world away from modern security bot designs...
Hey, if you're the right kind of person, a baseball bat can defeat a Dalek.
"... dogs and Baltimore Oriel Season Ticket Holders..." 😄😄😄
I can see Steve's creative process! 😲😊
The design for the Dalek's is pretty neat.
When the robots rise up imma join the revolution.
Yeah the problem is that the kind of AI we depicted in our Sci-Fi has been way too anthropomorphised to be a warning to the type of AI that can be incredibly harmful. And so society at large didn't spot social media algorithms as a harmful AI.
It's also becoming more apparent that it's not the AI itself that's going to kill us, it's society's inability to adjust itself rapidly enough to keep up with it. There are millions of jobs out there that could quickly and easily be replaced with AI right now: basically any job that requires interacting with a person through a speaker or a phone and entering data from the person on the other side could easily be replaced with the AI we have right now, but I'm sure there are others, god knows they're hacking away at entry level art careers as well. Our dependence on jobs is going to be our downfall, not the AI itself.
The Moloch problem, the "king" of dis-cooperation. See Liv Boeree here on yt.
I remember this as probably the first episode I ever saw as a kid.
Explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog. You understand it better, but in the end, it's still dead.
So MacGyver tested the security system to the base in Stargate SGU
I loved this dalik episode. I thought about every episode from season 2 and 3 over and over for days after they aired. got in trouble in school for day dreaming . especially this one!
One of my favourite episodes. I'm looking forward to your review of the dorm room deception episode "Hell Week".
If only Kirk were there to talk Sandy to death (and let's face it, he'd bonk the Dr. while he's there).
So many scifi references... but I'm going to tip my hat to your Superman III call out ;)
Solid explanation about the ds9 joke. I appreciated it
Okay - now I have to start re-watching all seven seasons of the OG (and infinitely better) MacGyver so I can keep up with your video essays.
FYI all old CRT are bombs. The compacter can easly explode so upping the power to do it would not be hard.
I actually remember this episode 😊
IIRC, I was once a patient in a hospital when the power to the whole neighborhood went out. A lot of stuff powered down, but everything vital was kept running by the backup generators. Or did Negligent Steven design the hospital, too?
One of my earliest memories of tv is watch McGuyver battle killer ants.
(I was born in ‘82, but I don’t think I saw it a t 3, lol. Must’ve been a rerun, but I was still very small)
I don’t think I ever saw another episode.
Let’s see what Steve says about another one.
Maybe I should go back and check out the show
By explaining why you tried not to make the joke about Star Trek, you actually made it about Star Trek.
Well played, Mr. Shives.
Well played, indeed.
I mean, the idea of removing all of the air from a building of any significant size would mean the entire surface area is going to be facing 14psi of pressure, unless you specifically designed that building to withstand that, some point in that structure will fail, and the air will rush in through that. :D
If the idea is to remove breathable air, wouldn't poison gas be more effective? Just release something like Halon or something, that will suck up all the O2 in a few seconds.
I was having this exact same thought lmao. Then MST3K'd myself and said "it's a big important military compound, maybe they did built it that tough" lol. If it were underground that would've aided suspension of disbelief because a number of IRL bomb bunkers deeeeep under London faced issues of CO2 buildup when there were ventilation issues. But the vent is on the surface.
It's funny you should mention Daleks here, because my mind went immediately to WOTAN, an antagonist in the First Doctor's era that was an advanced AI. See: The War Machines.
MacGyver was a show that was always a punchline for me in The Simpsons, and later a slight mystery reference to the SNL skit MacGroober. I was too young to watch it in its heyday. I occasionally watched a rerun here and there on the cable channel Heroes & Icons (which is also home to all Star Trek up to Enterprise sans TAS). But thanks to you, I'm going all the way back to the start and plan on adjusting my binge watching habits to fill the void of new Star Trek. I'm not worried either because Captain Kirk kicked the AI's ass as well. Although I might form an unhealthy obsession with Mac's vehicle choices. 😂😂😂
I love me some og Macgyver
Fun ffact:- I never knew macgyver was a real show until they the reboot. I thought it was a Simpson's invention like itchy & scratchy.
My favorite series😊
So, the power company can’t control the service of an individual customer without effecting other customers, including a big hospital? That’ll be a relief to all the delinquent bills who have received notices that their power is about to be shut off. Also, the hospital doesn’t have emergency generators? Hope there’s never a bad storm.
Richard Dean Anderson and a smart blonde scientist dealing with a surprise intelligence in the computer systems. That intelligence is taking over a high security military installation inside a mountain... are we sure this isn't an episode of Stargate SG-1?
I have to rewatch McGyver.
"if a machine is expected to be infallible, it cannot also be intelligent. There are several
mathematical theorems which say almost exactly that. But these theorems say nothing about how much intelligence may be displayed if a machine makes no pretence at infallibility" - Turing.
Damn you, now I'm whistling the theme song at work. Curses and it's been 30 years since I watched the show. And yes Civil Defense is a nice tie in. Know that I look back at some 80s shows and movies there was a lot of shady sht going in in Nam. Gleaming the Cube, Lethal Weapon, Firefox, Rambo and Platoon too but that's too obvious,
I mean, there was a lot of shady shit that went on in ‘nam, so… 🤷♂️
The plot of this episode is like the plot of the original pilot episose
I just watched this episode the other day and was thinking how MacGyver had his skills doubted by all the staff like he ain't MacGyver
Just make a Civil Defense episode! Stop teasing me with it!
At 19:20 - 20:00 Beautifully stated. The "dogmatic thinking" of mindlessly following protocol can also be observed in law, government bureaucracies, and those court cases you hear about that make any normal sane person go "what were they thinking?!" Such inflexible systems are already screwing plenty of people every day. Often times people can not get the help they need because the employees don't know how to express it in their computer systems, nobody has the authority to make an exception, and they don't want to be liable for violating the policy. It's really the program running the people, the tail wagging the dog. Oh yeah, people can be corrupt too. Would an AGI (artificial general intelligence) really be any more scary than this? The problem with Sandy and HAL-9000 is they were very narrow in scope. "Protect the facility." "Complete the mission." Those systems, I would argue, do not fit the definition of "general" intelligence. They're more like a very clever chess bot. A general AI would have awareness beyond the "end goal" of any particular task it was given.
Kirk beat him to it, several times over. And that laser camera killing the technician was totally like M5! And the failed power cut-off? "Pull out the plug, Spock!" In fact, the whole story could sounds like a re-working of The Ultimate Computer imho. I never watched MacGyver myself, but now I'll have to find and watch that ep! 🖖😂
Update: I just heard that a lot of the corridors were redressed Enterprise corridor sets (presumably TNG). Ok, now I'll really have to watch it! 😊
Class of '86!
Good one, Steve. Also, I've never seen a single episode of Dr. Who. 🖖
I love these videos. MacGyver was such a fun show.
Again, I'm not sure that this is the first time either, but the whole idea behind man creating something with intelligence and the being turns on him is essentially the story behind Frankenstein. Again, not likely the first instance of this trope, but it does pre-date motion pictures, even though Thomas Edison did actually make his own film of Frankenstein. I don't know how true it is to the original source material as I haven't seen that one, but I can assure you, it would be considered at least one of the earliest instances in cinema.
So, the AI in this episode is the same as that from Person of Interest without access to Social Media? And Daleks apparently. I think the PoI one only has roombas
Is that the same side of a mountain that Richard Dean Anderson would have as his TV home for 10 years in Stargate SG-1?
I'm surprised you didn't mention Lore as an evil AI
Eh. Nothing against Lore as a character, but he doesn't have nearly a big enough footprint in popular culture to warrant a mention alongside HAL or Skynet.
@@SteveShives
Blasphemy!!!!
@Steve Shives fair enough, thanks for answering! I now consider myself one of the privileged few 😊 🏆
Great show Steve!
Dr. Daystrom would approve.
When the American hero gets the bargain basement Daleks 😁
I like MacGyver including this episode unfortunately I didn't know about doctor who at the time and didn't realize that the robots looked like Daleks. P.S. My personal favorite evil A.I. is GladOS from Portal.
I prefer the old treasure hunt episodes like when he and a female Soviet spy girl he'd apparently run into before team up to find a cache of gold hidden a cave -- and shielded with booby traps -- by the pilots of the gold's transport plane.
Great comment on a great MacGyver episode. It's my second favorite after the Viking bomb thing. Really awesome
Check out "Colossus,: the Forbin project"...
What's hilarious is not that long ago an actual AI created by DARPA and shoved into a robot was sent to Shadow a group of Marines to use deep learning as to identify these marines future combat trial. They said the robot up in a field and told the Marines touch the robot in you win good luck then they laughed and walked away. Suddenly Marine started doing cartwheels across the field well the AI just stood there watching and wondering what it was looking at meanwhile a couple of other Marines did the literal metal gear box trick slit up to the machine and scored points. yeah I don't think that use it anymore
These reviews are much better than actually watching the show.¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 💯🖖🏾
I loved this show as a kid, but NGL I'm happier watching these than doing a rewatch
I see. This is why they refuse to give up landmines. They need to keep them around to mess with McGuyver when he needs to make the science types rethink their disdain for you humanity.
The best jokes is the explained jokes.
one of my favourite episodes and probably aired most often in Poland ;d.
Second one which i have faint resemblence of is one when MacGyver seals some acid tank with chocolate bars. Damn, these two eps were most influential on me, Human Factor skewed my kid's brain towards understanding these whole computer's decision making thing(also i liked surveliance cams shooting lazzzrs though the lens :3) and the other one sparked interest in chemistry.
First I was like: Meh, Steve making a DS9 gag. But then you started to defend it. And it kept on going exactly long enough to make me laugh (and applaud to an empty room).
Wait ... video not over ...
Lets reiterate my former statement on twitter that I so have to rewatch/watch MacGyver.
So far awesome vid, and from eperience I don't think quality will hit a gap. So already here:
Thanks for an awesome vid of my on my favourite shows when I was a teen.