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Is THIS longboard surfing turn functional? Or just novelty?
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2021
- Theres many longboard surfing turns and I always thought many of them were just for style. This experiment with drop knee turns proved my theory wrong. Enjoy!
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Love your videos man! It's a great help to be learning from someone who is on a similar skill level rather than a professional.
thanks so much! yea I agree , sometimes it’s hard to learn by watching pros cause they already figured it all out
The drop knee. Try to rotate your front foot outward towards the rail. This anatomically opens up your key body joints (ankle, knee, groin, hips) which in turn allows you to drop lower, opens your shoulders more comfortably forward, and turn the nose more sharply off the tail without bogging. Works a treat for backhand, drop knee take offs. You want to be so low that your leading hand is skimming the water. Good luck. You're in a good place.
Awesome thanks for the tip! I did notice that the lower I got the better I was able to perform. I'll try that trick out next time I'm out!
You got it so good on those last couple! Yewww
thanks bro! yea at the end of the day I really started to understand how it works a little better!
An observation looking at you doing a dropknee on land @5:05 you are low and balanced. When doing them in the water you are tall and not front on most of the time. I don't do dropknees, but being front on mostly relates to good balance/ control in surfing. Another observation is perhaps looking at the board while doing the dropknee. Great content once again! Can't wait to see your content blow up, the quality is of a high standard!
thanks so much Tim! your exactly right! the turns I did better on, I was lower and more balanced. I also noticed the looking at the board problem yesterday while editing haha. I think my next time out I’ll be so much better at them now that I have the form a little more figured out, and I can start focusing on looking where I’m going
Thank for your tips Brian !!
You got it!🤙
Shoots bra! We're both on the same learning curve. This goofy footed big boy haole at canoes really appreciates your work. Mahalo iā 'oe!
thanks eric! glad you enjoy them 🤙. what board are you riding over there ?
@@LongboardSessions The only new 11' on the island at the time was an NSP school bus. Big, wide, slow, fat, corky, loud, stable, boring paint job, wave catching machine for my 220lbs 6'2" 45 year dad bod. I do have permission from the Secretary of Commerce and War to get the Aipa's to build me something that doesn't look like a rental. Big Brother Sting 10' I'm thinking. Never too late to start something new! :)
What NLE are you driving?
Awesome! Love watching the progression and learning from you man.. 👍🏻
sweet, thanks James! what state do you surf in again?
@@LongboardSessions just around here in NJ, coming from LBI area. 🤙🏽 just getting back at it after that freak wipeout i had last May..
@@jamesdiola4773 oh yea that’s right. Let’s hope that doesn’t happen again lol
Absolutely loving these videos, I’m a total beginner just picking up green waves and find myself thinking about your advise regards stick to trying one thing at a time when I start messing up, not sure how many I watched before I noticed the Liverpool scarfs 🙈
Great videos 👌
Great
Awesome Gary thanks! Glad they are helpful🤙 ynwa!
I've been watching thru some of your videos and found myself wondering "when is he gonna start trying drop knees". Looks like it was 7 months ago.
Indeed, they are a bit of a novelty in that other turns accomplish the same thing. But they're definitely functional and add classic long board style. They're also fun to do.
I've tried 2 techniques. If you keep your feet perpendicular to the stringer (stay in full front side/back side stance) you do the turn with your normal trailing foot back. If you open your shoulders for a deck walking stance you'll take a single back cross step and turn in to a switch stance. Since your shoulders are open to the nose this usually doesn't feel too awkward like a full switch stance can.
Like you've pointed out, skake boarding doesn't help with turn but does help cross stepping.
I have no idea what happened to me as a kid. But I established a locked in body memory of riding a skateboard goofy foot and a surfboard regular.
(Goofy on a snow board too) But this doesn't equate to being able to switch stance worth a damn.
The only switch I can do is the one step back drop knee when my shoulders are open.
I'd really like to learn what you're talking about with the switch stance drop knee. Phil rajzman does this so well. It might come a bit easier for you with your wacky goofy/regular stance mix up haha!
@@LongboardSessions wacky foot is a great term.
Difficult to describe here. Ideally you want your feet not much farther apart than our shoulder width at any time. When you take off and move your back foot back your stance is usually wider than that. Unless you start with a super close stance. Or do a quick hop back or slide/shuffle your front foot back to maintain width of stance. A cross step back can let you move from a shoulder width stance back to another shoulder width stance by moving just one foot.
You've mentioned doing a hop when you get in a hurry. Trying to maintain width of stance might be the reason.
I switched to the sup learning curve about 6 years ago. And got a smaller less stable but more maneuverable board every year. I started at 12' and am now down to an 8' high performance (for a 210 lb 55 year old any way) JP Australia Surf Slate.
I did cross step on the longer boards. But the "sweet spot" where I can turn well on my current board is so small that the only cross step I can do is the single one back in to something like a drop knee turn. I usually do this near the end of rides to do slow drifting back side turns or to get my weight back so I can pull out of white water. It lets me do a quick pivot front side until the board is pointing out of the white water then a cross step forward to push the nose down behind the white water. This lets me remain standing. Never seen any one else do this on a sup but me. Maybe it's the wacky foot thing. (I do see long boarders use this to pivot their boards quickly out the back tho) maybe that's another thing to put on your list
Great, it's hard when you have bad habits! I will try, again and again! Great vidéo!
So hard! But, if surfing was easy, it wouldn't be as fun
@@LongboardSessions So True!
I miraculously found your videos and have been loving them all, it's great to see others who are closer to my level and are able to showcase common flaws that I have in my own surfing. What skateboard would you recommend for practicing maneuvers on land?
Thanks so much Joey! Well any longboard will work, but try and find the longest one you can as that makes it easier to practice cross stepping.
i like the "cross legged drop knee turn"
Yea that's such a cool turn. I can almost do that better than a drop knee turn lol. I want to try the reverse drop knee on a takeoff going left. Doesn't make any sense, but ive seen people do this and it looks so cool
Always with a great video
Thanks William! 🤙
@@LongboardSessions anytime!
Great contents by the way🤙🤙
thanks Alessandro!
Great tips . I always struggled with a drop knee turn. I watched a video of Steve Walden throwing up his arms in a field goal position. It was an interesting technique. My leash always seems to get in the way . Ever use a knee leash ?
yea they’re not easy! Yes I have used a knee leash… not bad but it’s just so annoying when it gets tangled lol
Well there’s your first issue using a leash! Lol
Would you say drop knee turns are similar to doing a lunge? Love the vids btw👍
Thanks!! Well I would say it’s kinda like a lunge, however your want to put much of your weight on the back foot.
I’ve always called those things “Kaepernick’s”
The "kaepernick" turn... I don't think it will catch on haha
@@LongboardSessions Just take a knee and look down at your feet and then throw your hands up in disgust LOL
I use a 1x3 to practice my cross stepping or a curb
Yea that's a good idea! I was thinking about trying to cross step on a pvc pipe for an extra challenge
nice log🤙🏻
Thanks ! A buddy let me borrow it hehe
@@LongboardSessions How long? in Cocoa Beach you see a lot of 9’2-9’8
Brian - good as always!
A couple of questions: what type of skateboard are you using for practicing and do you really notice the benefits?
Also, I am looking for a surf coach in Santa Cruz,CA…if anyone here can recommend one that would be great. I don’t want to do on line coaching.
🤙🤙🤙
Thanks Esteban! Practicing cross stepping on a longboard has been the single greatest on land practice for me. I noticed the benefits after only two skateboarding sessions worth of practice. I've even been thinking of producing my own surfing specific longboard skateboard to sell lol.
That being said, any longboard will do the trick. Try and find the longest one you can. Hamboard makes one that's over 6' long that would be perfect... it is $600 tho
@@LongboardSessions thank you! Is this the regular one or surf skate trucks?
@@Waxhead75 this is just a regular sector 9 longboard I bought when I was 16
Hello, how much weight on the front foot?? Does it take to unload it a lot??
I would say it’s about 60/40 with most weight on the back foot. Maybe even 70/30
New board?!?
I borrowed this board from a buddy while my Bing was being repaired. Just got my board back tho, so I can't wait to try drop knees again to see the difference.
You shred at surfing and making vids....
Haha awesome thanks!
Functional? Don't ask me, ask Phil Edwards, he knows!
Wow he's got an interesting style!
Amazing video
If you have an email address I'll send you a skate video how I trained it, maybe you could do a video later
Thanks mate
oh sweet! Send me a message on instagram @longboard_sessions
@@LongboardSessions sorry mate don't have insta 😩
@@Carlosferreira1983 facebook?
isnt a drop knee done with your front foot?
I assume you mean you bring your front foot to the back of your board? That’s called a reverse drop knee
Donky that's not a cross step. Another covid surfer. People don't take tips from a beginner.
From your comment it would seem you didn't actually watch the video. Am I wrong?