Zinogre in Grank is such hell to solo anyways, so lvl 140 and Apex and full charge makes it hell. And those ohkos, combos, flying bugs, this is going harder than thunderlord.
I still have to create the guts to fight this thing solo... Those red orbs look beautiful! Having his head as a bouncing spot without wystones makes it all the more hard to fight it. Great job!
How did you get 320 Ice and + 30% affinity ( i have the same IG with the same gear and i dont know if i fed badly the kinsect but i have 220 Ice and -10% affinity in the max upgrade)
Wow, very impressive ôO People think Rajang or Master's Test is hard, but a supercharged 140 Apex Zinogre is easily one of the scariest things in the game imo and as always you made it look easy af. Excellent buff timing and positioning! A 13'37 run for sure ;D /e fu youtube comment formatting T_T
Surprisingly, it wasn't that hard for me but then again, I've practiced this one for months. I've never managed to get sub 15 on my old Zinogre GQ though but with this new GQ, it was so incredibly easy. Kinda reassuring to see that it wasn't just me sucking at fighting 140 Zinogre but that the shitty map layout of the other GQ had a big part in it as well.
CantaPerMe You really know this guy inside out. The enraged apex version is incredibly fast and hits extremely hard. Makes Rajang look like a tutorial monster imo. Ye sadly that's one big flaw of 4U - too many bad map designs. For speedrunners or enthusiasts at least, maybe "casuals" feel different about it.
TorSkywalker Yah, I don't think those minor details matter to casual players but as I have just experienced, they can make a huge difference, especially when you're fighting Apex monsters, where every wasted second while a wystone is active can drag the fight by minutes, more so if you fight Zinogre whose weakspots are all protected by apex armor, forcing you to attack body parts that don't take much damage.
@@CantaPerMe Did you soloed MH3U S. Zinogre and Super brachy events? And Ex deviant Events in MHGU? Combined that 3 games " Mh3U super events "Descent into hades" and "Clashing fits" / MH4U 140 GQ apex monster / MHGU EX deviants" what do you say that are the most difficult monsters for solo??
In mhp3rd I killer zinogre more than 5 times, my psp battery is falling off so I had to put tape in it. But now when I try it again I can't even finish it.
Hey Timo. Yes i am. Well,i don't know if you have to worry about getting gq's with nice maps. Knowing your luck, you're probably gonna get a perfect one today. ;p
Kinda odd that you aren't using your Palicoes, do you feel using them would make this fight not solo? They're too weak to really be counted as party members.
Palicoes take aggro from the monster making it harder to manipulate it by positioning, which will throw you off. And in a fight as intense as this you need all the concentration you can have.
Funny thing is, I even wasted about half a minute by running back to the first area when Zin limped because I didn't know it sleeps in the last area xD
Idk if you still read these comments but is 4U running at a higher frame rate than gen, or is something else going on here? Going back and watching the 4U videos they look way smoother than gen does playing it.
Dang, I didn't know that. Thanks for the reply, and awesome run by the way, I love your videos. I always try and watch your runs to learn more about positioning and monsters. It helps a lot.
And I really love Zinogre-S.Zinogre In MH3U. They are neat to fight, and at some few viewpoints they look better and have better animations than here In 4U ~_~
Good Run! Im still wondering how you get my Map since I didnt share it with that many people yet. However I got a slightly better map last week where it sleeps in area 2 instead of 3, so wont leave it again, if you really wanna improve this more.
CantaPerMe exactly the point. it'd die really fast and that amuses me. of course i don't actually want you to do it though. I like seeing you fight the harder stuff.
Lv 140 have extra Health and take less Damage. Would say around twice as much, plus maybe 20-40% less Damage? Canta could have dealed whit him, as normal Zinogre, that way in a third of the Time.
Yeah, those thunderbugs are the main reason why I think 140 Zin is so hard to solo. Those things will chase your ass until the other end of the universe and waste a shitload of time, dragging the fight unnecessarily because your wystone will run out.
Wäre vielleicht ein bisschen besser gewesen, aber ist deutlich schwerer reinzuskillen als Peak Performance, was automatisch mit der White Fatalis armor kommt. Ich finde zwar Peak Performance für 140er solos eigentlich schlecht, aber wenn man sich mal anschaut, wie lange er mit full hp kämpft, hat es das schon sehr gebracht :)
Nyu Hab ziemlich lange am Lv140 Zinogre geübt, insofern bin ich da recht selbstbewusst wenn es darum geht, PP über weite Strecken aufrechtzuerhalten. Der einzige Angriff, der mir immer noch Sorgen bereitet, ist der Bodycheck, weil der aufgrund der Größe von Lv140 Zinogre sowie der variablen Geschwindigkeit im Apexmodus je nach Position nur sehr schwer oder gar nicht zu moien ist.
Are you interrested in custome Quests? I don't mean those lazy once where you fight one easy monster and get like 30 Large Elderdragon Gems. I'm speaking of really challenging once, where even coordinated teams struggle to not even die one time. I wasn't even able to do these solo, because the time just ran out (and I'm not actually that bad) I fanyone is interrested I a quest called:"God's Test" then just answer this commend. Or maybe a less harder one called:"Have some bombs guys" (almost did this one with 4 hunters, but we failed at the last Monster). And please don't look at custome quests like they are cancer. If used correctly they can expand your game enormously :) .
I can get that, but you might be better off just ignoring some stuff you don't agree with instead of shooting people down. Not my channel, just my two cents though, for whatever it's worth.
I trust that most of my viewers are smart enough to see a disagreement just as that, a disagreement and not a personal attack or anything else. If however someone's being that kind of person that gets personally offended over a different opinion and starts to throw a fit, that's when I just don't bother and ignore but if they're genuinely asking a question, then I feel that they deserve a response, even if they don't share the same opinion as I do.
That is an awfully heavy amount of trust to place on internet strangers. Do whatever feels best, I suppose. I personally don't see the value in bothering to respond to every single person that asks you a question on a nearly anononymous platform. When you could just as easily let it be, rather than poke a hole in their sail, but still, I'm not you.
This is supposed to be a superior creature in this game, an end games end game challenge, and yet they don't one shot or ever half health you on accidental hits. Yet in MHW no matter how much defense I stack, an accidental hit takes me down to half or lower.
Slotting in Health Boost skill to your set does mitigate that to some extent since your max HP on World/Iceborne now capped on 200 instead of classic 150 from older games
865 is very a very high defense value in MH4U... most damages based sets are in the 700-800 range and Canta was not even hit by a big damage attack, the strongest was an Uncharged and not even enraged paw attack and still lost half his lifebar.. so if you're still saying it doesn't hit hard you should try or watch gameplay of peoples dying to those big moves..
7:52 - 8:20
EWRZWOEIPRZDASDHAKSFUCKINGPIECEOFSHITADFHIOAÜFASDF
Hello translator?
Apex Zin is a real pro at doing that.
Apex Zinogre used Time Stop!
It's super effective!
KEK
This must be the longest german word I've ever read, even longer than Baushspeicheldrüsenentzündung ConcernDoge
2:35 That weird Kinsect movement again...
1 year ago and still badass as hell. MH4U forever.
yes
yes
yeah insect glaive feromones gun its like, magnetic spike shoot
Zinogre in Grank is such hell to solo anyways, so lvl 140 and Apex and full charge makes it hell. And those ohkos, combos, flying bugs, this is going harder than thunderlord.
4:00 Holy shit that combo!
that's pretty normal, Apex Zinogre always chains those 3 moves together when enraged.
Thank you for putting up soloing videos. I solo and it's hard for me to take away strategies from group missions. Keep it up ;)
Canta-senpai is apparently a Leet hunter of Zinogre. 13'37 That cant be a coincdence right?
Dat kinsect at 2:35 XD WTF?!
I hope this guy will be in MHW, I really love Zinogre, My fav non-elder dragon monster
He does now
Both 5th gen games, and he is great in both of them
I still have to create the guts to fight this thing solo... Those red orbs look beautiful! Having his head as a bouncing spot without wystones makes it all the more hard to fight it. Great job!
I would have died 5 minute in...you made it look so easy
When you make it look easy but it really isn't
How did you get 320 Ice and + 30% affinity ( i have the same IG with the same gear and i dont know if i fed badly the kinsect but i have 220 Ice and -10% affinity in the max upgrade)
Wow, very impressive ôO
People think Rajang or Master's Test is hard, but a supercharged 140 Apex Zinogre is easily one of the scariest things in the game imo and as always you made it look easy af.
Excellent buff timing and positioning! A 13'37 run for sure ;D
/e fu youtube comment formatting T_T
Surprisingly, it wasn't that hard for me but then again, I've practiced this one for months. I've never managed to get sub 15 on my old Zinogre GQ though but with this new GQ, it was so incredibly easy. Kinda reassuring to see that it wasn't just me sucking at fighting 140 Zinogre but that the shitty map layout of the other GQ had a big part in it as well.
CantaPerMe
You really know this guy inside out. The enraged apex version is incredibly fast and hits extremely hard. Makes Rajang look like a tutorial monster imo.
Ye sadly that's one big flaw of 4U - too many bad map designs. For speedrunners or enthusiasts at least, maybe "casuals" feel different about it.
TorSkywalker
Yah, I don't think those minor details matter to casual players but as I have just experienced, they can make a huge difference, especially when you're fighting Apex monsters, where every wasted second while a wystone is active can drag the fight by minutes, more so if you fight Zinogre whose weakspots are all protected by apex armor, forcing you to attack body parts that don't take much damage.
She should do high rank equipment against G-rank monsters. Especially to the Apex Zinogore
Who misses the cancerous apex quests? Anyone? ANYONE!?
140 teostra is best fun
@@Forkontheleft fuck 140 teo. i'll take apex jho over his bs.
@@joaomesquita3069 tried to solo him, 5 frenzy suppresses and HE'S STILL NOT READY FOR CAPTURE
ME!! 4u was freaking beast
I mean compared to what we have nowadays?
I kinda do
CantaPerMe in your opinion which is the hardest 140GQ apex monster?
Diablos and Zinogre
@@CantaPerMe Did you soloed MH3U S. Zinogre and Super brachy events? And Ex deviant Events in MHGU?
Combined that 3 games " Mh3U super events "Descent into hades" and "Clashing fits" / MH4U 140 GQ apex monster / MHGU EX deviants" what do you say that are the most difficult monsters for solo??
the precision makes this video better
Holy fuck this thunder doggo has no chill
He ate a duracell probably
金雷公ジンオウガ（G級および上位、下位）と極限状態のジンオウガ（apex・zinogre）のどちらが、戦いやすいですか？
8:17... Zinogre can fly?
It's more like in one punch man
He jumps really high
Don't skip leg day
Lol
"no, jump good"
awesome run!
Canta how you so GOOD?!
Lv140 Zinogre is Hardest solo in MH4G.
In mhp3rd I killer zinogre more than 5 times, my psp battery is falling off so I had to put tape in it. But now when I try it again I can't even finish it.
I kept expecting a adept evade.
Monster Hunter Games are super fun 👍
Canta you're too good!
Another perfect gq from UFO Timo-chan...
I wish i have his luck. >.>
Ryoko? I think I have been searching since November for this perfect layout. I still lack a narrow cliff Tigrex or Rajang one.
Hey Timo.
Yes i am.
Well,i don't know if you have to worry about getting gq's with nice maps. Knowing your luck, you're probably gonna get a perfect one today. ;p
+Ryo Galaxy Well if I will ever get one, I will message you and share it if you still play MH4U by then
Kinda odd that you aren't using your Palicoes, do you feel using them would make this fight not solo? They're too weak to really be counted as party members.
they're a hindrance
Palicoes take aggro from the monster making it harder to manipulate it by positioning, which will throw you off. And in a fight as intense as this you need all the concentration you can have.
if i use palicoes at all i always get trap experts c:
Apex Zinogre in a Nutshell.
Ayyye you finally did it! Gg man :]
This video embarrasses me for being an 9 year veteran...
i feel the same. been playing since the 1st MH on PS2 but no where near as Canta
All the cool guy moves.
Nice work Canta remember me the guy who gave you this GQ, and coincidentally I got the exact same time . But anyways impressive run
I got sub 13 on my first try btw, didn't record that one though and I thought the time for this one was funny, so I uploaded this one.
+CantaPerMe Oh wow 12 min is really good, you motivate me to play better each and everytime. Looking forward to solo runs in MHGen
Funny thing is, I even wasted about half a minute by running back to the first area when Zin limped because I didn't know it sleeps in the last area xD
I can't even solo a 126 Zinogore
you beat this poor thing to a pulp an get Hit like twice, this is sick, even for you :O
Do you use this set for the teo ?
Yay! I love insect glaive!😊
Why'd focus on the front paws while he was apex and you had drive active? Better hitzone? Faster to reach?
*Why'd you
faster deapex
Idk if you still read these comments but is 4U running at a higher frame rate than gen, or is something else going on here? Going back and watching the 4U videos they look way smoother than gen does playing it.
yes, Gen's fps is capped at 30 while 4U can go higher
Dang, I didn't know that. Thanks for the reply, and awesome run by the way, I love your videos. I always try and watch your runs to learn more about positioning and monsters. It helps a lot.
Apex Zinogre is absolutely disgusting. Very satisfying to see him get wrecked 👌
Why do they use a bomb to change zones?
To skip the recovery animation from consumable items.
I saw the map and immediately could point who's it was... Hehe have the same quest exact same
And I really love Zinogre-S.Zinogre In MH3U. They are neat to fight, and at some few viewpoints they look better and have better animations than here In 4U ~_~
Good Run! Im still wondering how you get my Map since I didnt share it with that many people yet. However I got a slightly better map last week where it sleeps in area 2 instead of 3, so wont leave it again, if you really wanna improve this more.
The maps are random
I got this GQ from Freezalos and thanks for the offer, but for now, I don't feel like leveling yet another Zinogre GQ.
CantaPerMe freezalos plz...
You should use your best equipment and see how long it takes to beat a low rank seltas or great jaggi. :)
that's lame
CantaPerMe exactly the point. it'd die really fast and that amuses me. of course i don't actually want you to do it though. I like seeing you fight the harder stuff.
7 years kindred hunter
Kannst du bitte mal wieder einen Speedrun in MHGen machen?
Nö, das Spiel ist noch gar nicht draußen.
+CantaPerMe Ich meinte das Japanische MHX, aber egal.
Great work! Now to 140 Stygian PepeFedora
Is that even possible without wide GL...? FUNgineer
How much damn health does it have my god
Lv 140 have extra Health and take less Damage. Would say around twice as much, plus maybe 20-40% less Damage?
Canta could have dealed whit him, as normal Zinogre, that way in a third of the Time.
nice run! xD
Canta wth are you feeding your bugs? no seriously. i wanna know.
Look like there were a little bit of stygian attacks.
Yeah komboking
great job man, even whit a group he is a pain in the a**, i hate him especially when he shot those pink balls. worst apex ever.
Yeah, those thunderbugs are the main reason why I think 140 Zin is so hard to solo. Those things will chase your ass until the other end of the universe and waste a shitload of time, dragging the fight unnecessarily because your wystone will run out.
Is very hard why you don't use the up
It's a shame. zinogre is my favorite monster in the series
CANTAFICATION SQUAD WHERE YOU AT?
what's that supposed to be?
CantaPerMe Notification+Canta.
You deserve your own squad.
+The Soul of Silver I read it Canta fan fiction at first glance. . ~.
+Lucipurr_0 ***feet
canta ily u my ig hero
This damn long fights I even expect a reactor from that damn 140 zinogre 😐
Can’t wait to get a job to buy N3ds
Wäre challenger 2 nicht vielleicht besser gewesen ?
Nein, der skill wird gegen den nur selten aktiv sein.
Wäre vielleicht ein bisschen besser gewesen, aber ist deutlich schwerer reinzuskillen als Peak Performance, was automatisch mit der White Fatalis armor kommt. Ich finde zwar Peak Performance für 140er solos eigentlich schlecht, aber wenn man sich mal anschaut, wie lange er mit full hp kämpft, hat es das schon sehr gebracht :)
Nyu
Hab ziemlich lange am Lv140 Zinogre geübt, insofern bin ich da recht selbstbewusst wenn es darum geht, PP über weite Strecken aufrechtzuerhalten. Der einzige Angriff, der mir immer noch Sorgen bereitet, ist der Bodycheck, weil der aufgrund der Größe von Lv140 Zinogre sowie der variablen Geschwindigkeit im Apexmodus je nach Position nur sehr schwer oder gar nicht zu moien ist.
+CantaPerMe würdest du PP auch bei Höllen zinogre machen oder nur bei dem?
kA
Are you interrested in custome Quests?
I don't mean those lazy once where you fight one easy monster and get like 30 Large Elderdragon Gems.
I'm speaking of really challenging once, where even coordinated teams struggle to not even die one time.
I wasn't even able to do these solo, because the time just ran out (and I'm not actually that bad)
I fanyone is interrested I a quest called:"God's Test" then just answer this commend.
Or maybe a less harder one called:"Have some bombs guys" (almost did this one with 4 hunters, but we failed at the last Monster).
And please don't look at custome quests like they are cancer. If used correctly they can expand your game enormously :) .
Nah, I don't give any shits about custom quests.
okay
เก่งเกิ๊นนน ใช่คนป่ะเนี้ย
Gibt mittlerweile mehr JPN 140 Apex Dog runs auf YT seit dem letzten Monat.
Wo zur Hölle waren die alle vor Monaten als ich sie am meisten gebraucht habe? D:
"pats head"
140 kutku pls
2019 haha
Bring this boy in iceborne
dude, you're a real one
13'37 hmmmm....... OMG!!! 1337!!!
Wow grande Anna
HI
Yo
i'd sooner solo a double 140 jang quest than face 1 apex zinoger. fucker is annoying
Rise ain't got shit on mh4u.
True apex is here in 4U
It's time to let go of 4U, Canta
not until MHGen is out.
CantaPerMe I know :P I loved your Master's Test GL video though, was waiting for it for a long time and you delivered.
Never let go of 4U - it's almost FU-level timeless!
TorSkywalker
Damn don't go mentioning FU like that, now I'll have to listen to Pokke's theme for the 100th time this month.
Glad you enjoyed it. Runs with less popular speedrun weapons are some of the things I've enjoyed doing for this channel the most.
Sí me funcionó, farmié reliquias
Alberto Gomez Bienbenido al infierno 😢
0:37 nice try lol
canta stop making us look bad😂 not many people can solo lvl 140 apex i can barely but im not a God like you
1337
elite
Damn, you seem really cold and prickly in the comments. Lighten up a little, yeesh.
I'm saving that energy for my streams, I prefer to get straight to the point when answering questions in the YT comment section.
I can get that, but you might be better off just ignoring some stuff you don't agree with instead of shooting people down. Not my channel, just my two cents though, for whatever it's worth.
I trust that most of my viewers are smart enough to see a disagreement just as that, a disagreement and not a personal attack or anything else. If however someone's being that kind of person that gets personally offended over a different opinion and starts to throw a fit, that's when I just don't bother and ignore but if they're genuinely asking a question, then I feel that they deserve a response, even if they don't share the same opinion as I do.
That is an awfully heavy amount of trust to place on internet strangers. Do whatever feels best, I suppose. I personally don't see the value in bothering to respond to every single person that asks you a question on a nearly anononymous platform. When you could just as easily let it be, rather than poke a hole in their sail, but still, I'm not you.
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Probably the most annoying monster in the game.
Apex tidal narjarala tho
+Ming Quan if tidal najarala had a 140 guild quest it would be the most annoying
For the god sakes! don't put "guild quest" and "Tidal Narajara" in the same phrase,i don't want to have nightmares XD
At least there aren't Apex Brachydios... [Like, Raging Brachydios with pouders oftenly active to explode while apex... more often than Raging]
This is supposed to be a superior creature in this game, an end games end game challenge, and yet they don't one shot or ever half health you on accidental hits. Yet in MHW no matter how much defense I stack, an accidental hit takes me down to half or lower.
Slotting in Health Boost skill to your set does mitigate that to some extent since your max HP on World/Iceborne now capped on 200 instead of classic 150 from older games
Also World is build whit faster Gameplay in mind, your able to recover easily from Hits while one hit here can lead into a Death Combo much easyer.
@@Sunaki1000 Yep can confirmed Zinogre in GU pretty much combo'd me to death, didn't help when my set had -16 thunder resistance.
865 is very a very high defense value in MH4U... most damages based sets are in the 700-800 range and Canta was not even hit by a big damage attack, the strongest was an Uncharged and not even enraged paw attack and still lost half his lifebar.. so if you're still saying it doesn't hit hard you should try or watch gameplay of peoples dying to those big moves..
Reminds me of how bullshit Apex is
She should do high rank equipment against G-rank monsters. Especially to the Apex Zinogore
She should do high rank equipment against G-rank monsters. Especially to the Apex Zinogore
what's the point of that?
Basically you can use any weapons or armor from High rank like Zinogore helm s, testucabra helm s etc.
Raider Master 706
That's not what I'm asking about. I don't see the point in doing that.