The Most In-Depth Wes Borland Interview Ever | Drinks With Johnny #72
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- This week we take a step into the warped and twisted mind of legendary guitarist Wes Borland! We talk all things Limp Bizkit - the beginnings in Jacksonville with Three Dollar Bill, Y'all, the MTV Spring Break performances, Woodstock ’99, the Australia incident, Wes’ time away from the band, the upcoming tour dates, and an update on the elusive Stampede of the Disco Elephants record.
We also take a deep dive into all of Wes’ side projects. Get the full story behind the creation of GOATSLAYER, how much music they really have recorded, why you’ll probably never hear some of it, and how that project eventually evolved into Big Dumb Face. Wes also opens up about how his ego led him to create Eat The Day, and why even a producer from Pink Floyd’s The Wall couldn’t get that project off of the ground (hint: it has something to do with trying out over 150 singers…)
Plus find out about the ghost in Wes’ old house, why he didn’t feel like a part of the metal community, debunking the “shade” against Avenged Sevenfold & the Deathbat comic, what the hell a white trash mimosa is, the inspiration behind Wes’ stage personas & outfits, how the Space Zebra show came to be, a great (or not-so-great) Courtney Love story, the worst guitar tech ever, plus so much more you’ll need a nice warm glass of hot dog flavored water to wash this episode down!
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It’s so bizarre seeing Wes look like a normal guy after nearly 25 years of seeing him with crazy stage costumes over the years.
still looks like a kid
@@bb-gc2tx He looks really healthy!
I had a beer with him, Fred and John at a meet and greet in 2013 @ The Rave in Milwaukee. They all seemed VERY down to earth.
@@bb-gc2tx baby face?
@@WES_5150 Fred gets a raw deal all the time. That Woodstock 99 documentary was a disgrace trying to pin the riots on him. Also the whole toxic white male narrative they pushed was bullshit too . You get any race of young males and yes females in environment like that with alcohol drugs shit going get crazy. I’m not down playing the sexual assaults I’m talking about the partying and destruction that went on.
So cool how this humble history teacher creates the most amazing riffs and has the most incredible guitar tone.
8:42 Wes: "Limp Bizkit's riffs are so easy, man.." 😂
What a humble words from a legendary nu metal riff lord
It's true, but most times simple is better. It's not like he's a punk guitarist, he's very capable.
@@batmanmotherfucker Agreed. Wes, John, Sam and Lee are indeed talented musicians
He is selfaware and puts himself down the scale of guitar players. Kids can play their tracks meanwhile good luck playing Yngwie Malmsteen or Joe Satriany things ...
He is good but not that good.
They may be easy but theres so much creativity there. Very unique riffs
@@batmanmotherfucker most punk guitarists are VERY capable-- The Clash, The Damned, Dead Boys, 999, Generation X, Husker Du, Replacements, Buzzcocks, Stiff Little Fingers, Dead Kennedys all had great and very capable guitarists-- even in the new style of punk there's some amazing guitarists like Chris Flippin from Lagwagon, Stephen Egerton from the Descendents and Brian Prietus from Pears. And they weren't always "simple is better" kind of guitarists either.
Watched the lollapalosa show and ended up here, great interview!
That stage outfit for Wes at Lolla was so sick man! Something about the half mask, & the eye contacts he just looks eerie but so sick!
@@JamesExploresHorror I love the contrast between Wes dressing up like a member of satan's army meanwhile you have Fred looking like your dad.
They played the weirdest set I've ever seen ,
Me too.
About to do the same
It's nice to see a good guitarist evolve into a great dude not losing perspective in it all.
It sucked, the only time I got to actually see the "lb" live was when Wes wasn't in the band. I feel like I got to see Fred flip everyone off for an hour to music I loved in 5th grade.
Me: This version of Wes Borland is WAY too normal.
3 Minutes in talking about ghosts pulling legs: Ah, yissss.
Wes is such a class act and a riff master.
For me, Wes was the sound I was drawn to in limo bizkit. Simple yes but that’s not bad. He did it well. He would go hard then transition to some ambient spacey sounds. I loved it.
He was no technical wizard but he was extremely creative with his sound.
Limo bizkit is actually a great name haha.
@@davidrickword4584 haha I just noticed that.
I was gonna point out what a great bandname Limo Bizkit is but someone beat me to it.
Same, just look how shitty bizkit got when Wes left for a while. Fred even admits they just couldnt hack it without Wes
Wes is one of the best. Can’t wait to finally see him play live. Such a cool and chill guy.
You know he's very not chill, right ?
He's actually kind of dick lol. He's not very nice to his fans and openly despises the success of their (LB's) own songs. because the ones he likes to play live, aren't the "popular" songs of theirs. Also, he blocked me on Instagram lol. After i asked him why he was making fun of his fans at the time. A guy told Wes he was his fave guitarist. And Wes literally told him to F off lol. Nice man..
I think he is so amazing to his fans!!
@@wadewilsonmusic5140 do you know Maynard James Keenan? Seth Putnam? Chris Barnes? Gg Allin?
Dude, Wes Borland is a cool guy, super happy I watched this. Makes me appreciate what he has given us even more!
Amazing....that you don't need to be a maniac to be a true artist like Wes. It is refreshing to know a kind and human side to Wes B.
Well done. Keep the crazy fun artistic side rocking.
I am 48 years old Korean man and a big fan of rock music. My favourite rock guitarlist is Wes. I wish he reads my comment.
He’s pretty active in Facebook NuMetal groups. He liked one of my posts last week.
Met Wes at Guitar Center in Hollywood. He was beyond nice and took time to chat. Such a unique and talented guitar player.
Wes was always a hero of mine growing up, always loved him in LB and also his BLB albums. So talented
BLB is badass! Limp too but Wes reeeeally show cased on BLB
BLB rulz.
Its control group as an experiment goes.
I never could stand LB especially when I was in high school when they were huge and you couldn't get away from them. But I always respected Wes B. the guy bleeds creative talent, and I liked that he always pushed the boundaries with music, and experimented in ways others were probably afraid to.
@@bibiinspades1953 what's blb? I searched it but it was nothing I'd link to Wes
Am I the only one interested in how much Wes actually creates these elaborate costumes himself?
I wanna know his capabilities!
☮️💜
he does all his make-up himself! he told me that years ago!
Yeah he’s an arty guy
@@bumpylemon you're right he says they are all characters and concepts he made and came up with. Saw it in another interview. I got a pick from him in 99 hes super awesome.
God Wes looks so good!
What blew my mind about Wes years ago was learning he played jazz and was great at it during the Limp Bizkit peak.
If im fanboying about Wes, he was taught jazzguitar extensively
Never really loved LB, but I’ve always admired this dudes sound, stage presence,guitar work and outrageous costumes.....
You're not alone with thst.
Gotta respect what they accomplished. Serious Hustle and dedication to performance.
I cringed fir 20 years thinking back about limp bizkit but fact is a saw Wes come storming out in the stage and got goosebumps. Unreal how that works
I love how Wes dressed so classy for this but on stage, well, that's a completely different story. 🤣🤷♂️ Love Wes, such a humble guy and underrated as hell, in my opinion. 🤘
He looks like he just came home from the country club 🤣
@@Jamesmclaughing Hahaha!! Well said good sir, this cracked me up! 😂🤣😂🤣
Hes got mad Dad energy
Very underated.
This is my 3rd FULL WATCH THRU of this interview...johnny...I can't understand how you aren't LITERALLY leading podcasts that have anything to do with music. I've been here since the beginning and will STILL be here when you hit a milli
That Detroit house is insane. The whole block is unreal. Massive old mansions adjacent to some of the gnarliest pockets of the dirty D. I used to drive passed it quite a bit on my sales route.
It's neat that the buildings still stand. When I lived in Cleveland the mansions were basically falling apart in the neighborhoods like that.
Selling what? Crack?
@@AcidTechnoMan5000 good one
@@AcidTechnoMan5000 delivering newspapers
I used to wash windows in the neighborhood Wes lived in its crazy. Theres like 3-4 blocks of really old huge houses and then like the worst parts of the city are right next door
first time i have seen wes in an interview, what a top guy he is, o down to earth.
Wes playing on Break Stuff at Hellfest 2015 dressed as Salvador Dali is one of Limp Bizkits most iconic performances.
looking forward to seeing both Limp Bizkit and A7X at Download 2024!
I loved the bit at the end about pulling people up on stage one of my favorite concert experiences was when I saw CKY in Scranton. The lead singer was having throat issues that night and rather than cancel they pulled people up from the crowd the whole night and had them sing everything. It was one of the most "punk rock" things I've seen. The whole crowd loved it they even played some songs they never did live.
Wes is such a legend. Mad respect.
Been loving wes for over 20 years.
Wes's on stage costums are Hall of Fame worthy, 99 Woodstock is the greatest set ever televised
Yea I watch the hour long set on RUclips alot, it's absolutely amazing, the energy you can feel through the TV. I was 16 at the time so they were massive along with korn and stuff even here in Scotland.
While I'm not a fan of Fred Durst and his singing Wes Borland is such a talented guitarist! definitely one of the best nu metal guitarist of all time
yeah, the whole band is pretty good. the 3 of themselves for sure
Significant Other and Chocolate Starfish albums was two most important albums of my life espically when I started my heavy metal journey in early 2000's. Wes travelled to INDIA in 2006 and played a small gig in NEW DELHI to promote his Black Light burns record. I was in the front row and watched him closly. His playing style and riffs are super fun to play and is a hugh inspiration for me in picking up and learning guitar. I wish to see LIMP BIZKIT live someday, I just hope they play in INDIA soon.
I seen him in West Virginia (Monkey Bar) around the end of 06 or so. I still got my Pink Floyd shirt he drew a huge bat on .Really liked BLB.
What is your favourite kind of chocolate?
@@jjammmees "sexual" chocolate.
@@MrDavisjones Mark Henry?
I'm from India too but i don't think they'll tour in India. I hope it may happen in future
When i was 8 my dad had just got Significant Other in the mail and i intercepted the package not knowing what the CD was, this was 99 or 2000. Wes's eerie blown out ambient passages paired with Lethal's turntable modulations shaped my whole artistic mindset as a kid. i just always thought of some dude in bleach white adidas running around late at night through a disgusting new york city neighborhood like a cover from the Goosebumps book series.
“Intercepted” the package LMAO
That’s how I picture the year 2000 lol
@@aymanfaris6782 haha! thats my fancy word for ganking it lmao
Wes truely felt sorry for the mishap in Sydney.
He even remember her full name.
Much appreciated and huge respect ❤️
Not sound like an ass but you would think he would remember the name of a girl who died at his show .
Wes is a huge inspiration on music for me. Chocolate Starfish came out my junior year in highschool. Limp Bizkit and the Deftones made me want to be a musician.
The nu metal era had some really good and underated guitarrists, like Wes, Stephen Carpenter, Daron Malakian and Jim Root.
Marc Rizzo
Nu not New
Also, Daron Malakian and Stephen Carpenter on not good guitarists.
@@tempsitch5632 dude just shut up, he has an opinion and most people agree with him so just shut up
Dan Donegan, Wayne Static too
He just comes across as a super cool intelligent guy. Awesome interview.
He's so underrated when making list of best guitarist throughout the years not that I care about list and I'm sure he doesn't. He's living his best life doing whatever he wants to do and the one thing I'd love to have is a piece of his art.
Awesome interview.
Watched the entire thing.
Wes is so original and talented.
Limp Bizkit gives some of the funniest concerts ever.
If you've never seen them live do yourself a favor.
I'm so pumped that their touring and might be coming out with new music!
Yes, they take themselves way less serious now. Seen them 5 times in NL. Last time, the ground floor was one whole moshpit 😅
Tho, they barely play songs from their first album :(
Just got my tickets for the nh show in August never seen them live before I'm pumped
@@thanhhuynh2044 I agree, $3 bill y'all was absolutely incredible, it wasn't as catchy as the other records but it was definitely their heaviest. I remember I saw them in like 99ish on tour in Hartford Connecticut. I remember them finishing the show with nookie and confetti being blasted from the ceiling.
Everybody was moshing hard but happy as f***!
It was surreal and something I'll never forget.
Dude I'm 40 and I've been to a s*** ton of concerts. The energy in that building was electric.
Confetti's raining on us I felt like I was in a music video, lol.
Plus, now they like to screw around and do a lot of good covers too.
They put on an amazing show!
Wes is my hero. Amazed to find this interview here. Thank you for sharing.
A lot of guitar riffs from the nu Metal scene are very easy but , a lot of Wes riffs are not that easy and very original compared to other nu Metal bands. As an musician myself I also think that his riffs are so original and creative that they may „easy to copy“ but it’s a complete other level to come up with those riffs. He has his own style , his own color, u can’t use parts of his style without sounding instantly like him, and that’s like the biggest goal of every songwriter. He is a true artist
@Alec_Kablam I remember that I just wanted to have a guitar with a tremolo to be able to play like him and than I crushed the entire bridge on my new cheap Ibanez back than because I hit this thing way to much 😀.
Awesome interview Johnny... you're getting better and better man, props to you. Wes is such a cool guy, always entertaining to hear his stories and his kickass riffs. I started watching your podcast because I'm a huge A7X fan but now its really because I'm a fan of you as a podcaster, keep them coming Johnny!
Dude his guitar in LB was so inspiring and unique. One of my favorite guitarists of all Time
he's one of a kind and an exceptional talent
Definitely an underrated guitarist
This is such a great episode. Ol' Wes is legendary
One of the most underrated guitarist.
Saw both Limp Bizkit and Guns and Roses at Aftershock 23... And I have to say, Wes is better than Slash.
Great questions from Johnny... I was super into limp bizkit back in the day... saw them at epicenter in the forum for the first time... had a blast.
He's always been a real dude. Really passionate. I Respect him and what he's doing. Keep doing you my man.
Wes Borland is easily one of my favorite guitarists of his era.
Thanks Johnny.... WES is simply a living legend
I usually don't have the patience to watch podcasts entirely, but this one was really good! Had some good questions and Wes seemed to enjoy himself being on the show.
This man is the definition of what it is to be an ARTIST 🕯️
Wes is one of my top favorite guitarist of all time.
Imho the most unique, unbelievably skill, humor of an other world, sympathic. One of the most interesstzing artist alive. Thank you Wes and hug your guys from LB GREAT
I would like to hear more about Wes' ghost experiences.
Wes seems like the coolest dude ever.
Air skateboarding in Woodstock 99 on stage. Best show to this day.
Love the answer to the Woodstock question !!
I was there the riot started when they gave everyone candles during the RHCPeppers show at the very last day …
This conversation made me pause the video and look up whatever they we talking about more that anything! Awesome tips! Love all the Wes stuff outside of LB and Speed of Light is awesome!
Rockin Limp Biskit!!!
I was today years old when I found out Johnny Christ has a Podcast 😂👍🏻
Same lol just found it myself
Same 🤣
Wesssssssss! Love this dudes style.
Wes is a good man, remembering the name of the girl who died is awesome to hear. Respect dude 🤙🏼❤️
Another great interview, Johnny!
Wes is an awesome guitarist and a truly genuine guy!
I absolutely admire Mr Wes. My favorite artist. And im mostly indecisive
This was a delight. Thanks guys!
Big shout from an Englishman in a haunted ruin in a French forest!
What a nice guy! (Wes, not me, I am horrible) 😉⚒️
Fantastic video! Love hearing Wes talk and you asked some fantastic questions! Thank you!
And we are still patiently waiting for a Stampede of Disco Elephants……………….
he said is coming
@@hyst1k86 but with another name
I can't wait. I love gold cobra and hope it's more of that but even better. It's crazy bc I haven't listened to limp Bizkit or followed them since chocolate starfish back when I was a senior in high school. Then a few months ago I just had this itch to listen to some 3 dollar bill which led me into listening to the rest of their albums that are on Spotify. I never even knew gold cobra existed and I have been listening to it all the way through multiple times since while at work. It just reminded me of first listening to them back in 8th grade and being so pumped for significant other. Man they really are a good original sounding band that doesn't deserve all the hate.
Didnt you hear ?
Fred's holding it up,
Being a perfectionist.
oh yes
I appreciate the host trying to steer away from covid talk. Very cool interview. BigDumbFace is beast.
The host? That's Johnny Christ mate. Hahahaha
I know he's been less than warm to the idea but good God more Black Light Burns PLEASE!!!! Those albums inspired and influenced my own music so much, so many good memories, I can't overstate my love for those songs
Wes the legend
BIZKIT is back I'm feeling the Dad Vibes and there Lollapalooza show was awesome🎸 🔥🤘💕🤩😈🌭
Legend right there
Always found this cat interesting and cool. Great player so underated. Saw big dumb face in San Francisco @ small club called slims March 18.2001 fucking brilliant night.
OMG he mentioned lighting bolt. I knew I loved Wes for a reason!
Great show as usual!
Just regret that you missed that the new Bad Religion's drummer is Jaimie Miller, formerly from Snot.
It would be a great opportunities to talk about that time period with Snot, Limp Bizkit, Hed Pe, Korn , Deftones, ..., remembering Lynn Strait and the big toilett at the ozzfest. When rapcore/nu metal was still raw and exciting thing.
In Loving Memory of Lynn Strait.
This is the first time I've ever seen Wes in "normal" form. I still have the 7-string Ibanez I HAD to have during those days.
Freds' the new Axel Rose in regards to spending 10 years or more recording the next Bizkit record hahaha
*Axl
@@Jimmy_Capicola I was thinking that when I wrote it. Thanks for clarifying 👌🏻
Unquestionable Truth Part 2 :( . . . .
They should do the album title as a play on Chinese Democracy
@@irregularhunterj8014 nah that ep was boring af
I actually checked out Speed of Light after watching this and I have to agree, super solid! Thanks Wes!
Man crazy seeing him so normal looking, I love wes grew up with bizkit
Yea I was a little taken back
This was awesome!!! Thank you for getting with Wes! Been a LB fan since 5th grade so like 1999-2000.
Wasn’t expecting like...a normal ass dude. Could be my dad...
I was lucky enough to see LB in '98 lex, ky. DMX and Godsmack on the bill. I was stage left directly in front of Wes.. One of the best shows I've ever been to..
Until I read your comment, I could not remember that Godsmack played that night at Rupp Arena. I was also in attendance with the giant robot backdrop for LB. I wish I could remember the costume Wes had on. I dont think DMX was onstage very long as I remember. I do remember Wes started Nookie with " Sweet Child of Mine" riff
@@robvandam5560 X only did a few songs. I was in the mix when Sully said we are not bringing this song back in till the whole floor was moshing... it was a mess, lol. Wes's outfit and face paint was very similar to what he has on in the Break Stuff video.. good times..
Damn, he is the first person I have heard of with the same complication as I had. Good to know I am in good company.
this new LP is so cool, maybe i dont like all songs but in general i do like it, great work!
Awesome guitarist. Cool outfits. Great riffs.
People who say "I hate Limp Bizkit but I love Wes Borland" needs to stop talking. Those two come hand in hand and compliment each other. Limp Bizkit rocked a generation. Admit it, they were the cool kids and you were they hater.
Thank you
No, LB sucks ass. Wes is baby.
first time seeing this podcast, it was very pleasing.
i wish Wes talked more on Black Light Burns as that is one of my favorite bands, but still a really good listen :)
I still think Wes did his best work on The Damning Well track ‘Awakening’ for Underworld, those riffs are incredible, I hope Wes does start doing scores like Trent, he’s definitely good at it
Hearing that Johnny and Wes have been browned is fucking awesome. Deaner is a guitar god. Hail Boognish.
People shit on Limp Bizkit way too much, but Wes Borland is arguably the greatest guitarist of the nu metal era.
I thought Wes quit drinking. Anyways I always loved "Wes Riffs" , inspired me to start guitar a a kid. I really really really miss Black Light Burns, we don't have enough GOOD industrial rock bands. Cmon Wes, write a new album!
Helllllll Yeah!!!333Wes Borland and Johnny Christ!!!🤘😈🤘😎🤘
Love that he also listens to Calypso while being from a metal background. After awhile listening to metal becomes a chore, especially when you realize metal itself seems to always just be distorted guitar and unwarranted suburban anger. There are exceptions to that, but not many.
Metal is kinda gay
Love hearing their influences and appreciations. I remember being stoked on Lightning Bolt and seeing them like 10 years ago.
I grew up in Jacksonville when LB first blew up in the late 90's playing shows in a dingy little club downtown called the Milk Bar and somehow pirating demos onto the local radio station just like in the Airheads movie! All the guys but Wes went to my high school I and related so hard to "the dirt weed" comment LMAO
Played at a place called the Spindrifter in Orange Park, Fla. during the 90's. We used to get off from our gig and go to the Milk bar. That place was a trip. Loved it.
I live in Bakersfield so we had the same thing in the 90’s with the local bands like Korn, Juice, Adema, Videodrone, and Angry asphalt machine. The dive everyone played at was called Jerry’s pizza lol. Its still there believe it or not look it up. 80’s/90’s were the best for shows and metal. Sad whats it become now but I will never give up my love for metal
Same milk bar he mentions in Indigo Flow? "Danny at the milk bar, Terry Parker. Dive into the planet..and God..I LOVE YOU!!!!"
@@peeweesherman yep! "The Planet" was the popular new rock station in Jax during the 90's (Planet Radio 93.3) and when he says "Terry Parker you know what's up" that was the name of the high school we went to. Also, at the beginning of "Rollin" when he says "John Otto, take it to the Mathews Bridge" he's referring to this scary ass bridge over the St Johns River that connected our side of town (Arlington) to downtown where the milk bar was
@@joew717 holy crap that's awesome info. Thanks. Grew up on these guys and I really appreciate you filling in that info. The Mathews bridge part was definitely one I was curious about too.
i have picture of me and wes borland from vienna 2011
Only watched this now but what a wholesome interview! Really looking forward to a potential part 2 in the future!
Wes is one of my guitar heroes!
The riffs on Endless Slaughter are SICK
If they've got a collection of songs on par with Endless Slaughter, they should release an album urgently.
I did look up the house quite beautiful
Highly.. underrated guitar player.