You've inspired me to have a go Mark, and I'm willing to die trying because this society keeps on punishing me for being a hard-working - upstanding citizen and rewarding people for being lazy and nasty to each other. I'm tired of this way of life. It's really getting to me.
I have recently made the descision to buy some land and build an off grid cabin. Humans are the only species that pay to live on earth. I have had enough paying. Think what you could do with your life with no electric bills, water bills, gas bills, council tax bills, no rent, no mortgage.
A tent and a shovel (for digging toilets) one week in nature and you me know the merits or people like Mark doing in ten years.. The community part is the pearl.. The most challenging.. Thank u.. Great info and honesty
You are such an inspiration, and way ahead of your time. Learning about your story has made me even more conscious and more eager to change. Thank you!
I wish I was able to do it. However I'm disable and unless I was to live in a community were I was able to participate on my skills but not having to do the things I wouldn't be able to do on my own without my disability getting worse ... I'm in!
I bought the video called " RUBBER TRAMP " and I loved watching people live free.......see you tube for the trailer of Rubber tramps. One line from that Documentary has stayed with me . "Freedom, takes care of almost everything "
good for you mark boyle! fantastic idea and love the idea of the internal struggle and not living how you'd like. i know what you mean in an unexplainable way that i bet everybody feels that resistance
i love the concept, just who's farm are you living on, who's land and i understand how you can barter for your clothes, and other things you may eventually need if you dont make them yourself, but who pays the taxes on the land/farm. this, unfortunately does take money and is how our society is set up. i'd love to learn more and want to be as self sufficient as possible too. thanks
deerfromot - thanks for comments. As stated, you just have to look at Asia (India) and Africa to see what a population living without money can do to the environment. Man has created deserts where jungles and forests used to thrive. Why? Animal species wiped out. Why? Take a look at the 1960's communes - living off the land. The land had to be bought or rented. All I'm saying is that resources would not permit with our present population. It is a lovely idea, all the same.
Hey, this is exactly what THE ZEITGEIST MOVEMENT and THE VENUS PROJECT tell us!!! Way to go Mark. I strongly suggest everyone to share this video and live like him in SOME aspect of their lives... PEACE
he'll do what all people will end up doing and thats living off the state. or if his community idea works out they will look after him. I wish all the luck in the world.
The essential difference as I see it is that with barter the agreed value of the exchange(goods or services)is subjective&depends on the individuals' needs&resources,&the interaction between members of a local community.If you've no wood ready for winter then wood represents huge value to you,less if you've prepared your own already. Currency removes that flexibility of value&trade,reducing everything.No worth in quality of life anymore,profits,quotas&units per m2 dictate the terms of our lives.
Recessions can't exist in a moneyless world. If money had a one to one mapping with resources and services then their wouldn't be recessions either, however that just blatantly isn't the case.
No, I do understand. If I didn't understand that money was an illusion, I'd have never spoken of the imbalance of wealth that it creates, as I did. I agree there is manipulation, and as long as money is the standard, this will perpetuate slavery of a nation. One day your house is worth 200 k. The next, 150 k. What was that 50 k to begin with? Maybe we're on the same page, here; money is merely a medium. It's sort of the same as saying guns don't kill people; people do. The people are what's bad.
If everyone tried to do this there wouldn't be a tree left standing or an animal left alive on the planet. There are many who live this way in Asia and Africa, witness the deserts etc. I would like to think that it could be done, but practically speaking this world would have to change drastically - like humans would have to be reduced in numbers.
@SOMALIASFINEST It's a possibility if we keep populating the way we do, but that has nothing to do with anything else rather than people having too many kids.
Sounds to me like "money" is something you wish to get away from, and yet, you sit in front of your split/stacked wood through the interview. No doubt, that wood represents great value to you. If you ever intend trade your wood with an individual, then you will have "succumbed" to the thing you were trying to escape. "Money" represents work or material. When you produce, you create value; Money is the way we exchange work and materials conveniently. Removing "money" only reduces the efficiency.
Great vid. Some good homesteading rabbit hutches on our channel that you folks might like looking at as well, we are on you tube under Oregon Survivalist group.
@japierce15 Absolutely perfect question. It's disingenuous in the EXTREME for this man to claim he is living without the benefit of money for he (or somone, probably his parents) most certainly had to have money to buy the farm, let alone to continue to pay the property tax on said farm.
He doesn't live on his own land. He lives in a caravan on an organic farm which he helps out on in exchange for him staying there ( at least that's what he was doing when he became moneyless ). People should read his book/s before judging mark. He is no sponger.
When washing cloths and yourself in the stream with "soapy" stuff, you introduce abnormal levels of wetting agents and oils that become breeding grounds for an increase in bacteria and viruses down stream... Living "green" or "off grid" or "self sufficient" is more often than not, just a shift in human impact. Often, when one compares the "greenlyness" of an "offgrid/moneyless" system to normal living, the "impact" per human, on the environment, is often worse.
@TheOzTruth I completely disagree with you. Mining resources does not lead to the destruction of the world. The cure is advancement, not devolution; going forwards, not backwards. The solution lies with making the consumption of the Earth's resources less harmful, not preventing the consumption of them.
@Happen2008 Yeah I agree. That doesnt make sense. Do you realize how many trees and water each person wastes right now? A lot more than this guy does. Plus it's not like this dude can't re-plant trees that he cuts down. And FirstSoul8, i'm not sure if you realize but this is how people used to actually live long, long ago. Before technology, television etc. people had to live off of the land. duh.
The Andromedans have high tech thousands of years ahead of us and no CONCEPT of money. No homelessness for them either. Not to mention they live literally forever (start believing) Make no mistake, when we keep evolving technologically, free energy and free living are a must or we will sink like Atlantis. Money feels like a game you cant keep up with, cant win, and someone is always ready to throw you out if you mess up.
It truly is impossible to live without money without living off of somebody else's dollar. Every square inch of land on this planet is clamied for by some type of entity. So yeah, you can live without money. But not without the help of a person who does live with money...
Great for you. But where did you get the money to buy the farm? The farm is a real ASSET. So while you may be living without money per se, you are most certainly NOT living without assets.
@sk8erdeeks This has nothing at all in common with the Venus Project. Mark Boyle lives close to nature unlike the future inhabitants of the Venus Project (if it comes about) who will be housed in bleak tower blocks built by robots and watched and monitored.
But what you dont understand is, that wouldnt happen in a world where money had true value. The reason all this madness is possible, is because they can manipulate these worthless fiat money.
Those to laugh at people that are learning to live with out cash.will one day be the one crying.cause they never took the time to learn that you can live just as happy with out money.American are so addicted to the mighty Dollar that when its gone they'll be like a crackhead on a withdrawal.and this all could happen by 2012.Yes I work for money to But I am also learning to there are way to live with out it.just my opinion its call being prepared.dont get cought in the dark with out a light
Dude I've seen Alone in the wilderness many times, actually I have it on dvd. And that cabin was built on land owned by retired nave captian Spike Carrithers. So maybe you should take your own advise and try to research before you try to correct someone. But there is no such thing as free domian land, either it's public, or private. And you can't set up shop on public land, so only was is to set up on private land that somebody had to pay for. That's just reality...
Why deny the fruits of advancement and growth? Feel free to choose to live an un-developed and under-resourced lifestyle, but don't try to change the way the rest of us live our lives. We like technology. We like advanced civilisation.
That's not true. You shouldn't say things so absolute without researching them and knowing for sure. Google Dick Proenneke. He was a vietnam veteran who went to alaska and built his own cabin and lived there for 35 years. He didn't pay for the land or anything. There is a lot of places in America where you could just build a cabin and live free of money. OR, just buy land and then live off the land without need for money. There are a lot of people in america who are self sufficient.
great, but...what the legal rights you have to occupy this piece of land? you surely cannot just put your caravan anywhere you want. In the UK you cannot even go to the wilderness and put your tent up if it is not a paid camping place. How people would send you any correspondence? post restant costs too. Imagine you have to go back to civilization and then there is no record of any work, what would you put into your CV? You must have more problems of this kind, can you really support this way of living and ssay it brings more benefits than disadvantages like getting cold in the winter, smelly without a bathroom, lack of security etc. Please explain it.
one has to ponder: if "mark boyle" retreated from the adult world of responsibility and contribution for 'a few years,' how, then, is it that he's been found and then made a subject of interest for interviewing. Did someone dialup a media source (or did Mark, himself) to peddle the "romanticism of poverty and irresponsibility" as somekind of appeal to the unprepared and unskilled, uneducated and aimless youth? This smells like propaganda.
This is the way i want to live my life and i am slowly taking steps to reach my goal of being 100 per cent self sufficient
And then everything has to be well planned
What about property taxes
You've inspired me to have a go Mark, and I'm willing to die trying because this society keeps on punishing me for being a hard-working - upstanding citizen and rewarding people for being lazy and nasty to each other. I'm tired of this way of life. It's really getting to me.
I have recently made the descision to buy some land and build an off grid cabin. Humans are the only species that pay to live on earth. I have had enough paying. Think what you could do with your life with no electric bills, water bills, gas bills, council tax bills, no rent, no mortgage.
Mark, the whole world can learn from you!!!
A tent and a shovel (for digging toilets) one week in nature and you me know the merits or people like Mark doing in ten years.. The community part is the pearl.. The most challenging.. Thank u.. Great info and honesty
You are great person
This is a very good point, and all the more reason why we need to explore alternative lifestyles like this, so we can get it right.
I am very interested in this way of life, but unless the rest of ones family and kids think the same very difficult. Will wait till they are grown up!
Same here.
You are such an inspiration, and way ahead of your time. Learning about your story has made me even more conscious and more eager to change. Thank you!
You are a brave fish in cowardly ocean. Don't ever forget it.
I'm with you on that idea. Wouldn't it be so cool if we could actually make that happen?
I wish I was able to do it. However I'm disable and unless I was to live in a community were I was able to participate on my skills but not having to do the things I wouldn't be able to do on my own without my disability getting worse ... I'm in!
right on man that's awesome
I googled my name and found this man. Epic.
I bought the video called " RUBBER TRAMP " and I loved watching people live free.......see you tube for the trailer of Rubber tramps.
One line from that Documentary has stayed with me . "Freedom, takes care of almost everything "
good on you man !
good for you mark boyle! fantastic idea and love the idea of the internal struggle and not living how you'd like. i know what you mean in an unexplainable way that i bet everybody feels that resistance
yOU ARE BRAVE AND KUDOS TO YOU MY FRIEND
i love the concept, just who's farm are you living on, who's land and i understand how you can barter for your clothes, and other things you may eventually need if you dont make them yourself, but who pays the taxes on the land/farm. this, unfortunately does take money and is how our society is set up. i'd love to learn more and want to be as self sufficient as possible too. thanks
yes. id like to know that reality question too!
absolutely fabuylous - wish I had an option to join!
I totally want to live in the free economy!
Show Mark boyle
I agree.
deerfromot - thanks for comments. As stated, you just have to look at Asia (India) and Africa to see what a population living without money can do to the environment. Man has created deserts where jungles and forests used to thrive. Why? Animal species wiped out. Why? Take a look at the 1960's communes - living off the land. The land had to be bought or rented. All I'm saying is that resources would not permit with our present population. It is a lovely idea, all the same.
Hey, this is exactly what THE ZEITGEIST MOVEMENT and THE VENUS PROJECT tell us!!!
Way to go Mark. I strongly suggest everyone to share this video and live like him in SOME aspect of their lives...
PEACE
i love you,,,,
he'll do what all people will end up doing and thats living off the state. or if his community idea works out they will look after him.
I wish all the luck in the world.
And with several published books under his belt, your wish has come true!
Regardless, you can purchase your own land and be self sufficient. How far you want to go with it is up to the person.
To all you people saying "he still needs money for this and that" listen more carefully next time, for the answer is within the film.
The essential difference as I see it is that with barter the agreed value of the exchange(goods or services)is subjective&depends on the individuals' needs&resources,&the interaction between members of a local community.If you've no wood ready for winter then wood represents huge value to you,less if you've prepared your own already. Currency removes that flexibility of value&trade,reducing everything.No worth in quality of life anymore,profits,quotas&units per m2 dictate the terms of our lives.
@firstsoulm8 not really... we consume more resources when they're readily available.
youre the only one that has to ponder that
Recessions can't exist in a moneyless world. If money had a one to one mapping with resources and services then their wouldn't be recessions either, however that just blatantly isn't the case.
What do you do for drink. ale loger bitters wine cider.?
@firstsoulm8 and yeah you really have to support your arguments for them to be valid.
What about property taxes?
@prickett233 did you hear about his comment about "transmission"?
No, I do understand. If I didn't understand that money was an illusion, I'd have never spoken of the imbalance of wealth that it creates, as I did. I agree there is manipulation, and as long as money is the standard, this will perpetuate slavery of a nation. One day your house is worth 200 k. The next, 150 k. What was that 50 k to begin with? Maybe we're on the same page, here; money is merely a medium. It's sort of the same as saying guns don't kill people; people do. The people are what's bad.
poor cities that are crushed under corruption would need your knowledge.
If everyone tried to do this there wouldn't be a tree left standing or an animal left alive on the planet. There are many who live this way in Asia and Africa, witness the deserts etc. I would like to think that it could be done, but practically speaking this world would have to change drastically - like humans would have to be reduced in numbers.
@firstsoulm8 Why won't there be a tree left standing or an animal left alive? Can you please explain.
Maybe they don't officially, but when you get to know them on a more personal level it might be a different story perhaps?
they came to him not the other way around. plus your the one that is watching this....
@SOMALIASFINEST It's a possibility if we keep populating the way we do, but that has nothing to do with anything else rather than people having too many kids.
Sounds to me like "money" is something you wish to get away from, and yet, you sit in front of your split/stacked wood through the interview. No doubt, that wood represents great value to you. If you ever intend trade your wood with an individual, then you will have "succumbed" to the thing you were trying to escape. "Money" represents work or material. When you produce, you create value; Money is the way we exchange work and materials conveniently. Removing "money" only reduces the efficiency.
What he gets sick?
He is not a fish but a Whale and a hero's life is often a solitary one.
How do you pay taxs
everyone gets old and dies but not everyone does it on a pension.
He should check out intentional communities dotcom
Great vid. Some good homesteading rabbit hutches on our channel that you folks might like looking at as well, we are on you tube under Oregon Survivalist group.
@japierce15 Absolutely perfect question. It's disingenuous in the EXTREME for this man to claim he is living without the benefit of money for he (or somone, probably his parents) most certainly had to have money to buy the farm, let alone to continue to pay the property tax on said farm.
He doesn't live on his own land. He lives in a caravan on an organic farm which he helps out on in exchange for him staying there ( at least that's what he was doing when he became moneyless ). People should read his book/s before judging mark. He is no sponger.
What are you going to do when you are old and can't fend for yourself? If you've any ideas I'd love to hear 'em!
perhaps hes just a little ahead of his time
i would very much like to know how many calories on average he consumes a day
When washing cloths and yourself in the stream with "soapy" stuff, you introduce abnormal levels of wetting agents and oils that become breeding grounds for an increase in bacteria and viruses down stream... Living "green" or "off grid" or "self sufficient" is more often than not, just a shift in human impact. Often, when one compares the "greenlyness" of an "offgrid/moneyless" system to normal living, the "impact" per human, on the environment, is often worse.
You are seriously flawed.
@TheOzTruth I completely disagree with you. Mining resources does not lead to the destruction of the world. The cure is advancement, not devolution; going forwards, not backwards. The solution lies with making the consumption of the Earth's resources less harmful, not preventing the consumption of them.
@Happen2008 Yeah I agree. That doesnt make sense. Do you realize how many trees and water each person wastes right now? A lot more than this guy does. Plus it's not like this dude can't re-plant trees that he cuts down. And FirstSoul8, i'm not sure if you realize but this is how people used to actually live long, long ago. Before technology, television etc. people had to live off of the land. duh.
He probably could do a barter system.
The Andromedans have high tech thousands of years ahead of us and no CONCEPT of money. No homelessness for them either. Not to mention they live literally forever (start believing)
Make no mistake, when we keep evolving technologically, free energy and free living are a must or we will sink like Atlantis. Money feels like a game you cant keep up with, cant win, and someone is always ready to throw you out if you mess up.
Your very insperational
It truly is impossible to live without money without living off of somebody else's dollar. Every square inch of land on this planet is clamied for by some type of entity.
So yeah, you can live without money. But not without the help of a person who does live with money...
Great for you. But where did you get the money to buy the farm? The farm is a real ASSET. So while you may be living without money per se, you are most certainly NOT living without assets.
Can I live with you?
@sk8erdeeks This has nothing at all in common with the Venus Project. Mark Boyle lives close to nature unlike the future inhabitants of the Venus Project (if it comes about) who will be housed in bleak tower blocks built by robots and watched and monitored.
But what you dont understand is, that wouldnt happen in a world where money had true value. The reason all this madness is possible, is because they can manipulate these worthless fiat money.
@prickett233 Why so negative about this guy? He's trying his best. I second luciddreamtv's views that this is blatantly about your insecurities.
why ar eyou not married or have agirl friend?
Those to laugh at people that are learning to live with out cash.will one day be the one crying.cause they never took the time to learn that you can live just as happy with out money.American are so addicted to the mighty Dollar that when its gone they'll be like a crackhead on a withdrawal.and this all could happen by 2012.Yes I work for money to But I am also learning to there are way to live with out it.just my opinion its call being prepared.dont get cought in the dark with out a light
Dude I've seen Alone in the wilderness many times, actually I have it on dvd. And that cabin was built on land owned by retired nave captian Spike Carrithers.
So maybe you should take your own advise and try to research before you try to correct someone. But there is no such thing as free domian land, either it's public, or private. And you can't set up shop on public land, so only was is to set up on private land that somebody had to pay for. That's just reality...
Why deny the fruits of advancement and growth? Feel free to choose to live an un-developed and under-resourced lifestyle, but don't try to change the way the rest of us live our lives. We like technology. We like advanced civilisation.
@goldenvapors I'm from the galaxy of andromeda (starseed incarnated) . I come here to help human life ;)
That's not true. You shouldn't say things so absolute without researching them and knowing for sure. Google Dick Proenneke. He was a vietnam veteran who went to alaska and built his own cabin and lived there for 35 years. He didn't pay for the land or anything. There is a lot of places in America where you could just build a cabin and live free of money. OR, just buy land and then live off the land without need for money. There are a lot of people in america who are self sufficient.
this sort of life sure ante gonna be a chick magnet tho
the venus project check it out everybody
well you are living alone, of course it will work. Your standards of living are diffrent than mines, i would not want to live like that.
Don't drink his cool-aid. (just saying)
great, but...what the legal rights you have to occupy this piece of land? you surely cannot just put your caravan anywhere you want. In the UK you cannot even go to the wilderness and put your tent up if it is not a paid camping place. How people would send you any correspondence? post restant costs too. Imagine you have to go back to civilization and then there is no record of any work, what would you put into your CV?
You must have more problems of this kind, can you really support this way of living and ssay it brings more benefits than disadvantages like getting cold in the winter, smelly without a bathroom, lack of security etc.
Please explain it.
I'd suggest purchasing a map, but it appears you've got your own personal tour-guide leading you right off the cliff. Bye-bye now.
sad detroit can ticket you for using wood in fireplace to keep warm
one has to ponder: if "mark boyle" retreated from the adult world of responsibility and contribution for 'a few years,' how, then, is it that he's been found and then made a subject of interest for interviewing. Did someone dialup a media source (or did Mark, himself) to peddle the "romanticism of poverty and irresponsibility" as somekind of appeal to the unprepared and unskilled, uneducated and aimless youth? This smells like propaganda.
what's the difference between this guy and a bum?