I just got this bike. Converted to tubeless with ease-already has tubeless rim tape installed. Fast shipping, great value, could not recommend bikesonline enough.
I've had mine for over a year. I have replaced everything except the seat post, front brake, derailleur and shifter. I didn't break anything, I am a heavier rider and wanted more robust parts. I ride in the Adirondacks on very rough trails full of roots rocks and drops. I've never had an issue. The bike sits around 35lbs but I don't care about that much. Seems bulletproof so far
I have the T8 and love it. The one negative is the climbing, but going to tubeless and moving to a 2.3x29 tire made it noticeably more zippy uphill. Once I upgrade the rims I’m sure it will keep improving. Glad to see this brand on your channel again!
Thinking of selling this bike for this very reason, poor climbing. I struggle to keep up with my MTB group since changing from the Vitus Mythique VR. Seriously ? changing the 2.6" tyres to smaller ones will make noticeable difference to climbing and it is not the geometry of the bike ?
Got my T7 about a year and a half ago . Purchase online was flawless and bike arrived early. Review is spot on, the only downside if any is the weight. Completely happy with it 🤙
@@Juicesters22 Ride regularly… About twice per week. Bike is still fully stock aside from tubeless tires, changed pedals, seat, and grips. Still feels like the day I got it after a few hundred miles and several crashes… Still my favorite trail bike
Great bike have had mine for about a month and a half. Great bike for the price, Bikes online was great to work with my bike even ended up arriving 2 days early!
Just got the t7 used and it is an amazing bike. It climbs with ease and feels super stable and confidence inspiring on the descents. The fork is very adjustable and the geometry is perfect. The parts on the bike are all the standard size in the mtb world today and it is highly customisable. Love it! As a rider who is 156 cm, the dropper is a bit tall for me though.
Great review! I’m a hardtail guy myself. I live in East Texas and we don’t have rocks in my area. Lots of roots and sandy loam. I have a 22’ Extrada 7 in XL. I have had it since February and it’s a solid bike! I put it through 20 miles this weekend in Austin, Tx and did 25 miles at Slaughter Pen last weekend in Bentonville. I have been looking at the T8 as a bike to take with me when I travel to the rocky areas. It’s nice to see an honest review especially in English!
Great review! The video is an excellent mix of data and real world experience. I have this bike and I am yet to push it to it's full potential. I don't know that I will ever have the skill to outride this bike.
For anyone that has this definitely upgrade the wheels and chain. Those make an insane difference to the performance of the bike. I’ve upgraded just about everything on it but those two things are all you need
Hey saice, your video is one of the reasons i bought my T7 last year. After 1 season of riding i am starting to upgrade small items (seat, handlebars, grips, tubeless). I found a Bomber Z1 for a good deal BUT its only 51mm offset, compared to the stock Recon = 42mm offset. Slow speed turns are common at the trails near me and this seems to be sluggish while navigating the turn. Now to my question...why should i or should i not upgrade to the 51mm offset Bomber Z1?
Great review I am holding out for a T8 but if they never show up I’ll go for the T7. Also my current bike is a 2012 GT Karakoram running 2x10 Deore SLX no problems shifting so I imagine the modern is equally bomb proof.
Love your channel. Followed your build vid when I got my T7 2 months ago. Any chance you'll be doing a video on how to convert these wheels to tubeless?
How is the reliability? The spec sounds good enough, and it's great value. I'm just worried all the frame bearings will be shot after a few months, headset disintegrated, and stuff like that.
I’ve put a few months on it so far with no such issues. Some people seem to think the frames tend to crack at the top tube, but that’s hearsay, and not substantiated as far as I know.
Dang Polygon T7 went from $1999 to $2199. From what I read on FB forums, Polygon frame cracks are common and the wait time are 6-12 months for replacement.
@@andrewscasualmtb Man, sorry to hear that. I bypassed the Polygon MTBs since they are having issues lately and went all out for a 2022 Specialized Status 160 for $3K. Maybe in a few years, I'll look at Polygon MTBs again if they fix their quality issues.
@@dannyv5317 Yeah hopefully the new frame will be better than the last one. They do have 5 year warranty on the frames but it just sucks waiting to ride. If it happens again I'll probably just buy a frame from another company.
Hello. I have a decision to make, perhaps you could assist: I need to choose one of these 2 options as my next MTB: Option 1: used canyon lux (2016 model carbon fiber, sram xx1, 11x1) condition "ok". Option 2: New Polygon T7. Both options are at the same price. The reason that I'm considering the polygon is that I am worried that the 6 year old xx1 might get too old, and to fix it would cost a fortune. Can anyone please give me some tips what should I do? I ride mostly XC. I will appreciate your input very much!
Raceface chesters offer good grip but I've thrashed mine to where they won't come apart for a new service and ill need to be switching to different flats
Just so you know, I got this bike about 1.5 years ago and you need to put a longer shift cable and housing because of pedal kickback. You can’t feel it, but the cable does ride back up into the frame no matter what you do. This in return does wreck the cable and housing right at the deraileur or hower you spell it.
Yousaid the bike you were riding is a medium 29er. May I ask how tall you are? I am right in the middle at 5'9". i have short legs with a 30 in inseam. i am leaning towards the same configuration you have. I know the schoolbook answer but i would like a real world answer. Thanks
You say this isn’t an entry level mountain bike, shouldn’t even be considered a 1st or 2nd bike. Is that strictly because of the cost? Or would it be hard for a beginner to learn on?
It's a great bike, but for absolute beginners, the full suspension, 4 pot brake caliper, 1x12 drivetrain are overkill in my opinion. A decent beginner hardtail can be had for less than half the cost, leaving space to focus on technique rather than tech.
I almost got this bike, but bikesonline sold too many and didn’t have any in stock after i bought it, so I got a refund and got a cannondale habit 4 at a shop
Definitions are loose, but sponsored usually means they were paid in dollars and may have some talking points you have to address. My Insta360 X3 video is sponsored. This one was not.
The biggest problem on this bike is that SOME of the tubes are only T4 level alloying which changes the fatigue rating from an A with standard T6 heat treated aluminum to a B rating for fatigue resistance. The number of top tube failures on these is kind of scary and I would give this bike a pass till T6 is used for all tubes.
Everything I've read says it's made of 6061 tubing. Have not been able to find any articles on the top tubes breaking. Can you point me towards this information? And point me towards where it's said 4series alloy is used. Are you maybe speaking of a different frame than the T series?
@@gardenstateflatlandb Have emails from Polygon where they confirm some sections are 6061-T4 grade alloy. If you want to PM me a email I can forward them to you. cheers
@@ThunderousProduction It's always been my understanding that aluminum frames are heat treated post welding, being either T4 or T6 outcome depending on the process used. Wouldn't that make all tubes either T6 or T4 then? Regardless even if it was fully T4, it should still be quite strong...at least for the casual rider. I'm not an expert so take anything I say with a grain of salt. Some pretty bonkers riders have beaten on these frames and been impressed. A noob to MTB such as myself, and probably the majority of riders looking in this price range, would likely be more than satisfied.
@@gardenstateflatlandb My problems is that it is a mix of T4/T6 and for fatigue failures which online are becoming common on the polygon near top tube seat tube junction this is a big red flag issue. Its all satisfying till you wake up in the hospital.
It is a great price. However, you are given up on attention to detail that you get from bigger known manufacturers. This leads to some misses when it comes to long term reliability, and even short term. Because it’s direct to consumers, support and claims are a headache. Something to have in mind. Sometimes peace of mind is worth the extra cost in a bike.
Not at all the case. Can vouch personally. Just have a bike shop go over it before you ride it. Had the hubs on mine show up a little tight. But quality is up there with any other manufacturer especially seeing as it is 1000 dollars less than a comparably specced bike from the big boys
@@willbennett8799 mine came with under-greased hub spacers. Missing headset piece, fork tube cut unevenly and seat stay triangle defective. Maybe I got the one bike.
@@mattx3190 you should contact bikes online, they were very quick to offer me a solution to my issues, since your frame has a lifetime warranty you could always warranty out the bike.
The T8 is also nice, but all bikes from them are sold out all the time. I have looked for ages to get one as a starting popoint to replace my 2007 Intense Spider. Its been a nightmare finding a good bike in stock out here in SOCAL unless I want to spend $5k and I dont.
Hey Paul there are some really nice used bikes on Pinkbike. In fact if I didn't have my T8 there is a 2021 Commencal Meta 29 for 3500.00 that I would have picked up. Just an FYI for ya.
A year later and this video is still fantastic! We 💖 The Bike Sauce!
I just got this bike. Converted to tubeless with ease-already has tubeless rim tape installed. Fast shipping, great value, could not recommend bikesonline enough.
Happy nbd!
Will it fit a mullet build?
Im looking to switch to tubeless as the bike can be a bit heavy going up hill. I have 29 inch wheels
I've had mine for over a year. I have replaced everything except the seat post, front brake, derailleur and shifter. I didn't break anything, I am a heavier rider and wanted more robust parts. I ride in the Adirondacks on very rough trails full of roots rocks and drops. I've never had an issue. The bike sits around 35lbs but I don't care about that much. Seems bulletproof so far
Mine arrives in 4 days. I am so stoked. Okay, I'm 63.. I don't say stoked.
I'm extraordinarily enthusiastic 😁
Good for you! I’m 61 and worried I’m too old for a family ripper. I just can’t seem to grow up!😀
“For a ripper”😮
I have the T8 and love it. The one negative is the climbing, but going to tubeless and moving to a 2.3x29 tire made it noticeably more zippy uphill. Once I upgrade the rims I’m sure it will keep improving. Glad to see this brand on your channel again!
Thanks. The T8 is a really tempting offering for the upgrade in suspension. Nice ride!
Thinking of selling this bike for this very reason, poor climbing. I struggle to keep up with my MTB group since changing from the Vitus Mythique VR. Seriously ? changing the 2.6" tyres to smaller ones will make noticeable difference to climbing and it is not the geometry of the bike ?
1.54 degrees head tube angle should not make that much difference should it ? Siskiu 65 degrees and Mythique 66.54 degrees ?
HT angle delta of 1-2 degrees makes a pretty big difference in ride feel
@@TheBikeSauce Yes for sure. It’s just numbers on paper to me but there is a noticeable difference when out there riding these machines.
I love your videos and the way you present the products. You inspire me so much and I hope to produce more and more video content as good as yours!
It only takes 77 seconds to improve the content!
Good luck :)
Got my T7 about a year and a half ago . Purchase online was flawless and bike arrived early. Review is spot on, the only downside if any is the weight. Completely happy with it 🤙
Hi @Daniel. Hows the suspension holding up so far?
@@Juicesters22 Ride regularly… About twice per week. Bike is still fully stock aside from tubeless tires, changed pedals, seat, and grips. Still feels like the day I got it after a few hundred miles and several crashes… Still my favorite trail bike
@@danielm593 Thanks mate!!
Great bike have had mine for about a month and a half. Great bike for the price, Bikes online was great to work with my bike even ended up arriving 2 days early!
Right on!
Just got the t7 used and it is an amazing bike. It climbs with ease and feels super stable and confidence inspiring on the descents. The fork is very adjustable and the geometry is perfect. The parts on the bike are all the standard size in the mtb world today and it is highly customisable. Love it! As a rider who is 156 cm, the dropper is a bit tall for me though.
FYI: I have the bike in small
Great review! I’m a hardtail guy myself. I live in East Texas and we don’t have rocks in my area. Lots of roots and sandy loam. I have a 22’ Extrada 7 in XL. I have had it since February and it’s a solid bike! I put it through 20 miles this weekend in Austin, Tx and did 25 miles at Slaughter Pen last weekend in Bentonville. I have been looking at the T8 as a bike to take with me when I travel to the rocky areas. It’s nice to see an honest review especially in English!
Great review! The video is an excellent mix of data and real world experience. I have this bike and I am yet to push it to it's full potential. I don't know that I will ever have the skill to outride this bike.
For anyone that has this definitely upgrade the wheels and chain. Those make an insane difference to the performance of the bike. I’ve upgraded just about everything on it but those two things are all you need
which set up of tires & chain u got ?
I just got mine today
Thank you
@@alejandrorivera1299 Hunt trail wide v2’s are a great option
Meaning it becomes lighter?
Excellent review, Dr Sauce!
Really cool bike
😄 ..Dr. Sauce. Not inaccurate, just.. ridiculous 😆
Good day, nice review, do yo think you can upgrade also the crank from 32T to 34T slx? And no problem for clearance. Thank you. Ride safe always.
Hey saice, your video is one of the reasons i bought my T7 last year. After 1 season of riding i am starting to upgrade small items (seat, handlebars, grips, tubeless). I found a Bomber Z1 for a good deal BUT its only 51mm offset, compared to the stock Recon = 42mm offset.
Slow speed turns are common at the trails near me and this seems to be sluggish while navigating the turn.
Now to my question...why should i or should i not upgrade to the 51mm offset Bomber Z1?
Great review I am holding out for a T8 but if they never show up I’ll go for the T7.
Also my current bike is a 2012 GT Karakoram running 2x10 Deore SLX no problems shifting so I imagine the modern is equally bomb proof.
How would this compare to the Diamondback Atroz 3? I really like the look of them but I'd prefer the best bang for buck deal
Just ordered the T7. Was in between the D7 and the T7. Do you think I made the right choice, the difference was 300 dollars? Thanks
You won’t regret it
@thebikesauce you mentioned you rode a medium, what"s your weight and height? I'm on the fence btwn medium and large for the T7, I reallyyy want it!
5’8” 155lbs. Great time to buy!
Nice wheelie flex 💪
😆 gotta throw them in once in a while
Great review........and yes Deore is good stuff............
Love your channel. Followed your build vid when I got my T7 2 months ago. Any chance you'll be doing a video on how to convert these wheels to tubeless?
Good idea. It’s on the list!
definitely going to buy a bike like this when I have the money!
How is the reliability? The spec sounds good enough, and it's great value. I'm just worried all the frame bearings will be shot after a few months, headset disintegrated, and stuff like that.
I’ve put a few months on it so far with no such issues. Some people seem to think the frames tend to crack at the top tube, but that’s hearsay, and not substantiated as far as I know.
@@TheBikeSauce thank you
Dang Polygon T7 went from $1999 to $2199. From what I read on FB forums, Polygon frame cracks are common and the wait time are 6-12 months for replacement.
I got a crack on my D7 in late May. Still waiting for my replacement. They said it was approved 2 weeks ago, but yep, still waiting.
@@andrewscasualmtb Man, sorry to hear that. I bypassed the Polygon MTBs since they are having issues lately and went all out for a 2022 Specialized Status 160 for $3K. Maybe in a few years, I'll look at Polygon MTBs again if they fix their quality issues.
@@dannyv5317 Yeah hopefully the new frame will be better than the last one. They do have 5 year warranty on the frames but it just sucks waiting to ride. If it happens again I'll probably just buy a frame from another company.
Just got mine for 1599, there onsale bikes online.
@@bwnco say what? I’m seeing 2200. Will prob buy soon enough.
Hello. I have a decision to make, perhaps you could assist:
I need to choose one of these 2 options as my next MTB:
Option 1: used canyon lux (2016 model carbon fiber, sram xx1, 11x1) condition "ok".
Option 2: New Polygon T7.
Both options are at the same price.
The reason that I'm considering the polygon is that I am worried that the 6 year old xx1 might get too old, and to fix it would cost a fortune.
Can anyone please give me some tips what should I do?
I ride mostly XC.
I will appreciate your input very much!
What are your top weight saving upgrade recommendations for the T7?
Wheels would be a great starting point. Even mid range alloys (hunt trail wide) would drop a lot
How tall are you I bought a 27.5 m I’m 5’9 just curious how at 29 would have been
Raceface chesters offer good grip but I've thrashed mine to where they won't come apart for a new service and ill need to be switching to different flats
Is it come with ISCG5 or iscg3?
Can you put dh fork on it ?
You can but I don’t recommend it
Just so you know, I got this bike about 1.5 years ago and you need to put a longer shift cable and housing because of pedal kickback. You can’t feel it, but the cable does ride back up into the frame no matter what you do. This in return does wreck the cable and housing right at the deraileur or hower you spell it.
I just had to address this issue after owning for a year.
How tall are you
I am 5’9” would i be able fit with 27.5 medium?
Sounds pretty ideal!
Yousaid the bike you were riding is a medium 29er. May I ask how tall you are? I am right in the middle at 5'9". i have short legs with a 30 in inseam. i am leaning towards the same configuration you have. I know the schoolbook answer but i would like a real world answer. Thanks
I’m same height, maybe an inch shorter (5’8”) with short legs too. Medium is perfect
@@TheBikeSauce Thank you. Thats what I thought
I'm 5'11" with shoes on and I had to get the xl. L felt way too cramped.
Get the L, rode it last weekend and it fit me perfect. I'm 5' 9" with 30 inseam. M might be too cramped.
I want to put the 1000w Bafang BBSHD Mid Drive motor on this bike. I wonder how that would be? I've never installed one before.
Well do it and make a RUclips for it.
not a high enough spec.
@@ThunderousProduction yeah too much salsa
I love how bike manufacturers are all avoiding the new I Spec EV nonsense by going Tektro brakes. Shimano really shot themselves in the foot
How is the stock rim profile for tubeless?
35mm inner width. It’s good for up to 2.8” width tires, but the 2.6” tires that come with it are ideal
6:10 in case you missed it. Dude eats it in the distance.
and I still can't order one... never in stock for the Medium 29er..
You say this isn’t an entry level mountain bike, shouldn’t even be considered a 1st or 2nd bike. Is that strictly because of the cost? Or would it be hard for a beginner to learn on?
It's a great bike, but for absolute beginners, the full suspension, 4 pot brake caliper, 1x12 drivetrain are overkill in my opinion. A decent beginner hardtail can be had for less than half the cost, leaving space to focus on technique rather than tech.
Hope you can get to review the Polygon Bend R5 gravel bike👍🏼
I almost got this bike, but bikesonline sold too many and didn’t have any in stock after i bought it, so I got a refund and got a cannondale habit 4 at a shop
Ouch... my 140F/130R Intense 29er weighs 27.5 pounds, but it cost me $5000. Thanks!
Cool
How long does the battery last on a single charge
Is it really not sponsored if you got that bike or a product for free? Almost every youtube reviewer says that so I am just wondering.
Definitions are loose, but sponsored usually means they were paid in dollars and may have some talking points you have to address. My Insta360 X3 video is sponsored. This one was not.
The biggest problem on this bike is that SOME of the tubes are only T4 level alloying which changes the fatigue rating from an A with standard T6 heat treated aluminum to a B rating for fatigue resistance. The number of top tube failures on these is kind of scary and I would give this bike a pass till T6 is used for all tubes.
Everything I've read says it's made of 6061 tubing.
Have not been able to find any articles on the top tubes breaking. Can you point me towards this information? And point me towards where it's said 4series alloy is used.
Are you maybe speaking of a different frame than the T series?
@@gardenstateflatlandb Have emails from Polygon where they confirm some sections are 6061-T4 grade alloy. If you want to PM me a email I can forward them to you. cheers
@@ThunderousProduction It's always been my understanding that aluminum frames are heat treated post welding, being either T4 or T6 outcome depending on the process used. Wouldn't that make all tubes either T6 or T4 then? Regardless even if it was fully T4, it should still be quite strong...at least for the casual rider.
I'm not an expert so take anything I say with a grain of salt.
Some pretty bonkers riders have beaten on these frames and been impressed. A noob to MTB such as myself, and probably the majority of riders looking in this price range, would likely be more than satisfied.
@@gardenstateflatlandb My problems is that it is a mix of T4/T6 and for fatigue failures which online are becoming common on the polygon near top tube seat tube junction this is a big red flag issue. Its all satisfying till you wake up in the hospital.
The pedal bob was very noticeable have to always lock up if the pedalling will suck
The rear is very active, but I personally don’t think it bobs too much.
I'm thinking this whole pedal bob thing is subjective because I'm running a coil and I don't notice any pedal bob.
Totally subjective - also completely relative to other bikes. Compared to a hardtail, the T7 has a ton of bob!
Santiago Oaks!
It is a great price. However, you are given up on attention to detail that you get from bigger known manufacturers. This leads to some misses when it comes to long term reliability, and even short term. Because it’s direct to consumers, support and claims are a headache. Something to have in mind. Sometimes peace of mind is worth the extra cost in a bike.
Not at all the case. Can vouch personally. Just have a bike shop go over it before you ride it. Had the hubs on mine show up a little tight. But quality is up there with any other manufacturer especially seeing as it is 1000 dollars less than a comparably specced bike from the big boys
@@willbennett8799 mine came with under-greased hub spacers. Missing headset piece, fork tube cut unevenly and seat stay triangle defective. Maybe I got the one bike.
Polygon make bikes for many of the bigger known manufacturers including Marin.
@@hambo76 they build frames. Not assemble them.
@@mattx3190 you should contact bikes online, they were very quick to offer me a solution to my issues, since your frame has a lifetime warranty you could always warranty out the bike.
Price went up $200 since this video posted.
Bummer
on sale now 1599 bikes on line
The Deore 12 speed is better than SRAM's best. Come at me.
😆😆😆 coming on strong, but I don’t disagree
The T8 is also nice, but all bikes from them are sold out all the time. I have looked for ages to get one as a starting popoint to replace my 2007 Intense Spider. Its been a nightmare finding a good bike in stock out here in SOCAL unless I want to spend $5k and I dont.
Hey Paul there are some really nice used bikes on Pinkbike. In fact if I didn't have my T8 there is a 2021 Commencal Meta 29 for 3500.00 that I would have picked up. Just an FYI for ya.
Looks like a nice bike for the money but its to heavy for my liking
Polygon and Motobecane show how much money is spent on marketing and sales reps commission.
Funny that a $2800 bike is called a budget bike
T7 is under $2000. And yea.. that’s pretty affordable these days, unfortunately
Did you have any creaking noise on yours?
None thus far