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Hand Cutting Rebates / Rabbet Joints - Back To Basics Approach
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2013
- Rebates or rabbet joints are one of the most common forms of joinery for accepting backs in furniture etc. Whilst a moving fillister plane my be the most obvious hand tool for cutting rebates, I wanted to show you an alternative approach to cutting this joint by hand which uses only the very basic of tools. This video covers rebates / rabbet joints cut both with and across the grain, and the methods demonstrated can be used for any length of joint.
For frequent articles on hand tool woodworking check out our blog: www.theenglishwoodworker.com
This video is 10 years old and I'm still going to thank you
it's great to see that someone can still do this, at a rather brisk pace, without the aid of modern tooling. Pleasure to watch.
"There is always one more after your one more"
Ain't that the truth.
That one's called "too much"
Brilliant as usual. The simplicity you bring to woodworking is refreshing. The Lie Nielsens and Veritas people will probably not like you.
Awkward!
Not many skilled wood workers anymore, all chop saws,routers etc etc....
You got skills.
The tip about grain pulling toward vs away at 4:40 was worth the subscription alone. Thanks!
I've found the perfect video. I've been searching for ages trying to find a simple video with hand method of doing these rebates. Internet overloaded with power tool videos always using the word 'easy'
Well done, and thanks from OZ🇦🇺!
I love traditional woodworking and stay away from power tools, thanks for these videos.
handwork is good but ya cant use handtools for everything sometimes you need power tools!
Hi Laurence, Thanks for your suggestions. At the moment we're getting a feel for making the videos and I must say we're really enjoying it. It's very encouraging to know that there could be some interest in a kind of online school; we've had similar suggestions from others. We will be giving thought to a various options and would love to proceed with something like this down the line.
The English Woodworker
Sir, would you be kind enough to point me to the video concerning the pros of using a chisel instead of the saw to cut the rebate ? Indeed, that 3-5 minutes at the beginning has been extremely useful. I do have some « perpendicular « issues when cutting a long rebate by saw. Mostly by lack of « qualifications » i suppose. ALSO: did you somewhere make a video about a SLIDING dovetail ? I would appreciate your input . Thank you so much for sharing .
Happiness is another "The English Woodworker" Video. Thank You
nice finally a video that show the average person how to start wood projects simply hand tools and practice to achieve the same look great for someone that wants to try out carpenter work or just the average diy guy that wants to do a simply project without having to buy all kinds of expensive machines great video thanks and think you should make more of these kind of videos thanks again
I love the simple approach and the ability to adapt fundamental skills to do a fine job, without the latest, specialised gadgets or gizmos. Of course the secret to such simplicity is consummate skill! Thanks for your ongoing instruction and inspiration Richard.
Great video for begginers or for people who doesnt have too many or expensive tools like me. Thank you much
Hey Cousin. I have been a woodworker in a commercial shop for over 30 years and I have NEVER heard the word "Rebate"used as a woodworking term. Learn something everyday.
This is the most "english" video i have seen in a long time
Great video, as much as watching and learning is the biggest part to the video, I must admit, hearing the sound of sharp chisels and plane blades is also rewarding.
Hello. I really enjoy your videos - I watch them two or three times. As superficial as it sounds, I like your accent.
I have an iron fillester plane and I actually prefer a wooden shoulder plane like yours. At least I seem to get better results with it.
Richard,
I just finished watching all of your videos. I'm just starting to get in to hand tools and am eagerly awaiting your next video.
Thanks for sharing!
Jim
I love the space saving scaled-down Roubo style bench!
Thanks again! Watched this one again!
Great tips - thanks for sharing !
This was very good. Thanks for sharing this with us.
Thanks, always good to see a different way of doing something.
Thanks for the great video. Always enjoy your presentations.
Absolutely fantastic. Always back to basics for off grid reality. Many thanks.
Great video. I'm just starting out and found it very helpful!
thanks, i have been looking exactly for this
Great video. Please keep them coming. Thanks Mate.
Thanks for sharing and posting, I have learned something new today.
Thanks! Very informative and well explained.
Thank you very much for this. New to woodworking and I was trying to figure out the best way to do this without the fancy tools. Very good info, thanks
Fantastic video. I love the simplicity of it. Thanks for posting.
Thank you for making these videos. I wanted to know how to make a rabbet with just a chisel and you showed me exactly that. Simple and effective and your videos go straight to the point.
This is the first time I have watched any of your videos. That was great!
Good lord, you made that look easy... and I'm going to have to try it.
Thanks.
Thanks for sharing
Your videos are fantastic
this is awesome. gonna make more time to improve my woodworking skills
Thanks, you did that task as fast as I could set up my table saw for the same task.
Richard
Have you given it a thought to start up a on line school and teach your skills using projects such as the small wallcupboard using the basic tool set to begin with then gradually work up to a larger tool set and more advanced projects?
Your techniques are very good and are easy to follow and comprehend.
Thanks for the excellent videos.I like the options of using varied techniques to acheive the same end results.
Laurence
GREAT VIDEO!!!
Great video, thanks.
These are good skills for working away from the shop. I do a lot of work for family/friends and the "road box" can only hold so many tools. Being able to make rebates with just a chisel (and a router plane in my case) was a worth the time it took to learn that skill. Great video. Looking forward to more.
First video of yours I have watched. Great camera work and hand tool skills.
Thanks Deezynar, I've always found guides for this type of use very awkward to fix down accurately. If I could sacrifice the surface and screw a guide down then that might be ok but I do find it quicker and more consistent to get used to doing it without.
Great vid, thanks! And of course I saw it after I made a mess of my own :) thank you!
good stuff bro. Thank you for sharing
I really enjoyed your video. I really think people should learn the basics with hand tools. they are missing out on the feel of woodworking. and the pride of doing it by hand. I also subscribed.
Great craftsmanship!! Credit where it's due
Thanks your video's are very helpful and give me a plan to make some stuff with only hand tools.
Thanks Aaron US Minnesota very cold right now
Yeah...really nice work!
I had to make a deep rebate along a two meter piece of wood, and it seems that learning from several very good and dedicated woodworkers such as yourself pays off.
I changed my softwood chisels' bevel angle from 25 to 17.5 degrees, as I learned from Rob Cosman, and it goes deeper and faster with each mallet hit.
I clamped to the piece I needed to make a rebate on another piece of straight wood, as a fence, as I learned from Paul Sellers, but only to cut a vertical kerf along the entire length.
And after that I used your technique for making rebates along the grain, and I'm glad I did.
Instead using the hundred dollar combination plane, which couldn't plough deep enough in the wood due to it's construction limitations, I only used an Azebiki saw for kerfing, my firewood heavy mallet, a five dollar chisel made in Czechoslovakia and an adjustable mouth wooden rebate plane from Germany that I was lucky enough to find at a flea market for another seven or so dollars - it was the first and the only adjustable mouth wooden rabbet plane I ever saw.
So thank you for sharing this with us, it's always a pleasure to watch you working and explaining useful things to us.
raoullf
Sir, could you make a video? Thank you in advance .
awesome video! Now for me to practice
thanks for your video - I'm about to make some picture frames out of an old pallet, got a set of chisels but this is exactly what I need to know how to use them. Thanks!
Excellent, thanks!
thank you for this video.
Nice work.
Brilliant!
Incredible. Video simplicity is everythingThank you
Great stuff.
thanks for the inspiration bro!
great video I think I can follow that
Something similar to this that I'd like to see is the raised panel like on cabinet doors. I know there's many ways to get them done like using the fillister or combo. They can be made with routers and even table saws but I'd like to see them made with basic woodworking hand tools.
I like your style man
Brilliant job mate.Not a power tool in sight.
Thank you! I have not seen anything from you for a while now! I hope all is well with you.
Very informative
Excellent good job
I really enjoyed this video. Stanley is making their No 78 again -- you can get it for $60 in the US. Even though it is modern Stanley, it is actually pretty good quality.
Hi bro.. Just subscribed your video.. i watched 3 of them already, very nice video and very informative.. Anyways i really love your small workbench that was beautiful man.. Greet from Bali, Indonesia
You make that look easier than it is lol
Thanks for these videos, I like your quirky approach!
I absolutely love those wooden shoulder planes, great to see someone else apreciating them! I just used one yesterday to cut rebates for the back of a small shelf unit with drawers, so quick, simpler than a router, I used a simple tempory fence clamped alongside the boards I love the feel and sound they make. Mine has a brass sole so its quite hefty. Any chance of a video showing how to fettle a wood shoulder plane?
cheers Jonathan
Thanks mate.
Bloody ell I wouldn't trust my hand free scoring a chisel line like that🤪.Nice precise work mate.its OCD Heaven.
very nice job and nice technique.
I was looking for how to do this but i have very few tools and I'm using a leftover packed chip piece of wood. I'm afraid it would not take it but i must deal with what I've got.
Great video! Thanks alot! New sub here :)
Hi Wilf, I make the videos and work alongside my partner Helen. You can learn more about what we get up to on our blog, perhaps make a start at our 'About' page and then have a little browse around.
Love your work and I second the notion of an online school. Check out Shannon Rogers' curriculum approach.
I like your heavy mallet. Seems easy to control. What is the weight?
Thanks,
Cool I did learn one thing from your video, you English call it a rebate joint, and we here in north america call it a rabbet joint.
Classical English joinery books also call it rabbiting: www.amazon.co.uk/Modern-Practical-Joinery-George-Ellis/dp/0854420398 and despite it saying modern it was published in 1902 and you can see why an apprenticeship used to take 7 years or more! I have this book and you can download the PDF as well but it's very in-depth but yes we always call them rebates nowadays!
Advice for the seasonal DIY-er, apart from hands, best tool you need is a damn good table to clamp your wood to. Chisel and the hammer are secondary.
"with just a hammer and chisel" and a shoulder plane, and a marking gauge, and a bench, bench dogs, vice. Chisel, 10 bucks, hammer 3 bucks, marking gauge 15 bucks, shoulder plane 40 bucks, bench ~200 bucks, vice ~100 bucks. That's almost 400 USD in gear to cut a rebate.
I know that's not really the point, but I get frustrated, as a starting woodworker, how much is presumed, and how expensive things like a bench are, up front costs that you need to eat. You might forget how hard it is to do everything without anything really holding your work piece.
I DID enjoy this video (uh, from like 10 years ago).
Damn I missed the sharpener truck yesterday. This would be a lot easier with professionally sharpened tools. That's what I get for being a lazy or maybe not wanting to look like a dog running down the street after a truck😂
I'm really enjoying your videos, Richard. How do you keep your chisels so sharp? Perhaps that's something you'll cover in a future video.
Q: If you do not have a shoulder plane, how do you recommend finishing off (and flattening) the rebate? Thanks for the good video.
You got chipout because you pared above the depth of your vertical chop-- early on in video. Learned that from Paul Sellers!
Do you have asbergers by any chance? I’m not trying to be rude it’s just you have a very clear articulate unemotional voice which can be common in the Asperger community. You’re a natural teacher either way, keep up the good work.
torque8899 It’s pretty strange to ask if someone has Asperger Sysndrome. Which is a more likely indicator of being of the spectrum than his seemingly normal behavior.
Very unusual and inappropriate!
if you don't have a shoulder plane you can slide a piece of the same thickness up to the side of the wood and use a router plane, worked well for me.
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Make a fence w/ adjustable hooks that index to the edge of the bench & put the work at the edge of the bench. Hold it all w/ holdfasts.
What a good way to clean up the second joint you did without a shoulder plane?
excellent video! Where did you get that cool looking marking gauge?
chris randell It looks like a Veritas marking gauge.
its helpful.. but can you try it on coco lumber?
Thanks Grabmint, I do have a few simple homemade tools that I'd like to share so I expect I'll do some videos along those lines at some point.
wow
What qualities should a person new to woodworking look for in a chisel?
How do you keep them so sharp??
Are you English and in England, or elsewhere? Great video, very good quality and what a fine set of tools you have behind you!
Jeremy Hunter My guess is Lancashire, in England.
+Offshoreorganbuilder I was gonna go for north derbyshire. Guess they're not too far off.
@@louissingleton-knott5557 I was thinking West Yorkshire.
Where are the shoulder blades sold? Do u have a video of how to make your beautiful work table?
for long grain sometimes i just hold fast a straight board on top of the one i'm rabbeting and use the rabbet plane and take it down to my gauge line. you have to make sure the board is over the gauge line on top for hogging out and then remove the board and just make a pass with the plane on it's side. but my woodworking is terrible so i'm just letting you know that you can just shake the cat to get the skin off.
Watching you use a metal hammer on a chisel....I can imagine my dad (wood worker of over 45 years) screaming at the very thought of it
I use a Thor No 1/Size A (1lb/500g) with copper and rawhide inserts. Rawhide side for bevel chisels, copper for more clout on mortise chisels. Never done any damage and gets the job done. However, if I had a Veritas hand router plane sitting on the top shelf of my plane rack, I'd use that instead of a chisel any day.
Use what you've got. That hammer is hard core! Good video
The type of hammer is irrelevant, it's the man behind it that counts.
Incorrect...
rob5tube that's not true at all......
Could you tell the names off all the tools you used in this video as I am new to woodwork