As someone who worked in a shelter for over 8 years and who has found it very difficult to transition into other shelters professionally since, this conversation was extremely cathartic! I loved working in a shelter setting, but after accepting offers and relocating, twice, for positions at other shelters, I found that A LOT of shelter employees at the management level, seem to forget that we are all here for the animals at the end of the day. The only way to continue saving lives is to adapt and change with new techniques and protocols. It really is a tragedy that the very animals that many of us care for every day are actually suffering because humans are offended when someone wants to give them the very tools and resources that they know they need. It is extremely frustrating and heartbreaking. So, thank you for all you do, and please don't get burnt out in the shelter world! For every 10 feathers you ruffle, I promise you're making a positive impact on at least one of us! 💙
I'm over the politics in dog training. You are exactly right. The owners do NOT care about this. They need help. They are overwhelmed, and frustrated. "The clubs" have come after me multiple times particularly on Facebook. I struggled with it at first. I would reply to every single negative comment. Now I do not allow it to affect me. Good take!
You two cannot know how timely this conversation was for me. Both of you are inspiring to me as professional colleagues - but more importantly as Good humans. Thank you both for sharing this podcast - filled with so much insight and observations.
Years ago, I had someone explain the difference between anxiety and depression as follows: anxiety is a fear of the future or things that have not happened yet, and depression is about regretting the past.
First off, thank you for this podcast. I started watching this thinking I would learn about helping my dog reactive pit bull. I didn't realize it would also help with my personal self-care in my career and life. Thank you again!
TOM! Short version. This week our dog alerted to a neighbors unattended leaf fire that was growing. Could've been bad ,but got it out. I love this dog.
Thank you so much. I’ve had this in my ear all day. I’ll be seeing you in Seattle soon! And I have to say I agree with what dog trainers need most. Those who are the most successful are the ones who have good people skills. All things being equal the trainer that can relate to the person and adapt to help that person tends to be more successful. See you soon at the farm Tom! I’m almost 70 years so you two are my younger trainers and it’s so nice and refreshing to hear you speak and know that we are not a dying breed.
This conversation is so spot on ! I appreciate you discussing these issues and bringing awareness about the dog training community . It’s sad because it’s the dogs that suffer. Thank you for everything you do, you are knowledgeable and appreciated 🙏
AWESOME as always Tom, and KD!🧡💕 I've said this for many years - There's people who love dogs, and there's people who love the image of themselves with dogs. It's not the same thing at all. There are people who love animals and love to rescue them and make their lives better. There are people who love the "glorious" image of themselves doing rescue and the attention it gets them. These groups are opposites. Those wrapped up in the image and the attention are selfish. They appear to be animal lovers - they're not. Their own image will always come ahead of an animal's actual welfare. I had to learn this in animal rescue - it was very confusing when I was young and didn't see it. I'll work with people with differing ideologies if it helps the animal - because I want to help the animal, I don't care what "image" I come away with. I do my best to keep a million miles away from those selfish "image" people in my personal life. I have to work with them to do animal rescue, and I give them the china doll treatment until I can get an animal away from them and actually, quietly, do some good. I'm sorry Tom and KD that you deal with this, especially that it limits your amazing, life-saving work. You're both intelligent, well balanced people, I'm glad to see you finding healthy ways to protect yourselves with social media, in your professional lives, and your personal lives. GIANT WOOFLO from Andre' the Giant, Great Pyr/Anatoli shepherd , 150 pound fluffy white certified therapy angel/devil dog, Yard Guardian Extraordinaire. His prior neglectful owner told neighbors to shoot him or run him over because he was "uncontrollable" and owner wasn't coming to get him anymore. When I took him in, I thought I'd wind up having to get back surgery just from leash training him🤕😆 Without strong but calm and balanced correction, he would have remained uncontrollable. Because of his huge heart, intelligence and a buttload of work from me, now EVERYONE thinks he's a pure angel 👼😜🙄 Only I and a few close friends know the devilish side, lol. 😈(not his fault tho) I've had utterly amazing, out of this world moments in our hospice work, with people on their death bed, unresponsive, coming alive one last time for The Giant's gentle head on their bed, soft fur in their hands, their families and friends so grateful for one last good moment. And this dog was going to be tossed away !!😮 I shake my head. You are both lucky enough to have many, many of those stories. ***RESPECT TO YOU BOTH***, not only in caring for voiceless animals that sorely need it, but also for yourselves and loved ones. Please keep on keeping on, PLEASE KNOW THE HIGH REGARD the good people in the animal world hold you. And how many dogs absolutely worship you?!? Ha, a huge army of dogs and their owners speak for you! What an honor! Woof!🐕💗
I am here to learn and also to share. I live in a county with an astronomical number of shelter dogs and only one no-kill shelter. I participated in a program to take a shelter dog out for the day and posted pics etc on Facebook to try to get him adopted. Three days later, the shelter called and said I was the "last call" and had to pick him up the next day or he’d be put down. He’s a red-nosed pit who has been viciously attacked by another dog so he looks pretty rough but he’s very sweet and non-reactive. I want him to have the best chance for adoption as possible so I need to work on the leash with him and basics like "sit" and being comfortable in his kennel. In a few days, we’ve made so much progress thanks to both of your videos on RUclips. You two are a gift to both canines and their families; I’m grateful 🙏🏼 and so is my dog 🐶 ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
To be a good dog trainer you have to be spiritually in shape . I’ve been a dog trainer for 7 months and thankfully have an AMAZING teacher but man , it has gotten me out of my head and has completely changed my mental health for the better. It has completely changed my vibe and I feel like I’m operating on a different frequency than most people . Lol. ( btw it’s not about how many months / years you have been a dog trainer it’s about how many dogs have you trained and how quickly you can read a dog ) . I know it sounds goofy but aye it’s true
“Is she an avid hunter?” 😂… thanks for this podcast, such important and foundational information that any dog owner should listen to. I especially appreciate the comment on focusing on being proactive rather than waiting for a problem to come up.
This whole thing was very helpful Tom. I struggle with just about every aspect you brought up on this video and I really needed to see this today. Thank you so much for doing what you so, and sharing this.
So here is my question; as a deputy dog warden who does get some leash time at our facility, what is most beneficial to implement when I have time with a dog to enhance the adoption rate. All dogs have different behaviors and needs, I get that. But I’d love pointers…. I’d love love to get you into our facility to teach those of us who want to learn to help our dogs. I’m ecstatic over this podcast! And thank you for your positive words towards shelter workers and volunteers
I appreciate the topics discussed and the depth of understanding shared. Thanks to what I'm learning from Tom, Will and now KD, I am experiencing a transformation within. It took some time and a hard look at myself to recognize the need for me to undo expectations, set aside my own ideas and begin to undo old habits around dog training. I am now beginning to see Max (my Belgium Shepherd Grandinele) as he is and molding myself to understand his needs better instead of expecting him to "get" me. As this work evolves I find my own issues come to light. It's amazing how forgiving canines can be in helping us to better ourselves. I see dog training more as self work process than dog work and better understand why its so difficult for others. Change is hard.. : )
Love hour videos and podcasts. Seems like to many people debate what training is best but loss sight of whats best for the dog. If positive only works great, but if it doesn't you have to do whatever it takes to help the dog. Love your training style and I know from personal expeience with my dogs that it works. Keep up the great work and dont worry what others think or say. Maybe they wish they could get the results that you do and because they can't they lash out.
I disagree a bit with the comment about why dogs are in shelters. A lot of dogs are in shelters and rescues because people don’t do their due diligence with respect to what is the right dog for them and their family. If they did the research on the breed, then maybe they wouldn’t get a lot of these dogs - examples are the many people who have German Shepherds, Cane Corsos or other types of protection breeds without understanding the leadership, that they need to instill in order to have that dog be balanced.
Correction : guardian breeds. Protection and guardian are 2 very different things. But yes, you're correct many don't research whether they can fulfill the dogs genetic needs. Then at the opposite end of the scale. You have people go into shelters and their emotions take over
I believe that German Shepherds, Cane Corsos, Dobermans, Belgians and Rottweilers etc. are protection dogs, not guardian dogs? My understanding of guardian dogs would be more the Preat Pyrenees, Maremmas, Akbash, Rhodesian Ridgebacks and other dogs that are raised to. guard or protect livestock. I also would not recommend herding breeds of any type to people who aren't willing to put in the effort that it takes to work with them.
Best way to build a dog house. Year 1975: with advice from grandfather - we built around the styrofoam that encased some appliance (probably an old fashioned tv) It was completely insulated. Our dog house had a floor. . . Shiplap inside and out, a gabled roof with shingles. We painted it barn red. It went with us from Virginia to our move to Pennsylvania. (It weighed a “ton”) Our dog lived in it for 13 years.I’m pretty sure he was warmer in his house than we were in our rented stone farm house with a wood burning stove. Year 2024. Our inside dog loves his crate with a K9 raised bed that is under an antique table. We don’t live on a farm now. Our poor inside dog :-(
The fact the bare minimum is so low. It’s so sad. Even with my first lab who is 8 now, sure I didn’t know exactly what I was doing in puppy hood and training. But I realize I can have a better more fun relationship with him if I went back to foundation. He’s still not perfect but the improvement I have seen is astounding.
My . heavenly God I had no idea zero idea any of this existed.... WOW!...thank you for helping dogs even though insane people really couldnt care less... so weird
Hi does anyone know if Tom’s puppy kickstart course works for a possible future service dog? I keep being told it “has to be” positive reinforcement only for service dogs.
This is typical of the comedy podcast skits on sm I think podcasts won’t be around forever it’s hard to find the truth this was a good one however with some Andrew huberman type bits in
This is exactly what I needed to see today. Love this conversation! I have noticed the difference in you the last 6 months or so. I was wondering if and when you were gonna tell us what you were doing different. I learned a lot from this, even patted myself on the back for things I have been integrating organically. Beautiful podcast start to finish! 🩷
@@tomdavisofficial Still doing it for me today. All good, just thought you would want to know, sounds good on RUclips so I can just watch here instead.
As someone who worked in a shelter for over 8 years and who has found it very difficult to transition into other shelters professionally since, this conversation was extremely cathartic! I loved working in a shelter setting, but after accepting offers and relocating, twice, for positions at other shelters, I found that A LOT of shelter employees at the management level, seem to forget that we are all here for the animals at the end of the day. The only way to continue saving lives is to adapt and change with new techniques and protocols. It really is a tragedy that the very animals that many of us care for every day are actually suffering because humans are offended when someone wants to give them the very tools and resources that they know they need. It is extremely frustrating and heartbreaking. So, thank you for all you do, and please don't get burnt out in the shelter world! For every 10 feathers you ruffle, I promise you're making a positive impact on at least one of us! 💙
I'm over the politics in dog training. You are exactly right. The owners do NOT care about this. They need help. They are overwhelmed, and frustrated.
"The clubs" have come after me multiple times particularly on Facebook.
I struggled with it at first. I would reply to every single negative comment. Now I do not allow it to affect me. Good take!
You two cannot know how timely this conversation was for me. Both of you are inspiring to me as professional colleagues - but more importantly as Good humans.
Thank you both for sharing this podcast - filled with so much insight and observations.
Years ago, I had someone explain the difference between anxiety and depression as follows: anxiety is a fear of the future or things that have not happened yet, and depression is about regretting the past.
First off, thank you for this podcast. I started watching this thinking I would learn about helping my dog reactive pit bull. I didn't realize it would also help with my personal self-care in my career and life. Thank you again!
TOM! Short version. This week our dog alerted to a neighbors unattended leaf fire that was growing. Could've been bad ,but got it out.
I love this dog.
Thank you so much. I’ve had this in my ear all day. I’ll be seeing you in Seattle soon! And I have to say I agree with what dog trainers need most. Those who are the most successful are the ones who have good people skills. All things being equal the trainer that can relate to the person and adapt to help that person tends to be more successful. See you soon at the farm Tom! I’m almost 70 years so you two are my younger trainers and it’s so nice and refreshing to hear you speak and know that we are not a dying breed.
This conversation is DEEP!!❤ Ty both for your vulnerability and courage🙏
This conversation is so spot on ! I appreciate you discussing these issues and bringing awareness about the dog training community . It’s sad because it’s the dogs that suffer. Thank you for everything you do, you are knowledgeable and appreciated 🙏
AWESOME as always Tom, and KD!🧡💕 I've said this for many years - There's people who love dogs, and there's people who love the image of themselves with dogs. It's not the same thing at all. There are people who love animals and love to rescue them and make their lives better. There are people who love the "glorious" image of themselves doing rescue and the attention it gets them. These groups are opposites. Those wrapped up in the image and the attention are selfish. They appear to be animal lovers - they're not. Their own image will always come ahead of an animal's actual welfare. I had to learn this in animal rescue - it was very confusing when I was young and didn't see it. I'll work with people with differing ideologies if it helps the animal - because I want to help the animal, I don't care what "image" I come away with. I do my best to keep a million miles away from those selfish "image" people in my personal life. I have to work with them to do animal rescue, and I give them the china doll treatment until I can get an animal away from them and actually, quietly, do some good. I'm sorry Tom and KD that you deal with this, especially that it limits your amazing, life-saving work. You're both intelligent, well balanced people, I'm glad to see you finding healthy ways to protect yourselves with social media, in your professional lives, and your personal lives. GIANT WOOFLO from Andre' the Giant, Great Pyr/Anatoli shepherd , 150 pound fluffy white certified therapy angel/devil dog, Yard Guardian Extraordinaire. His prior neglectful owner told neighbors to shoot him or run him over because he was "uncontrollable" and owner wasn't coming to get him anymore. When I took him in, I thought I'd wind up having to get back surgery just from leash training him🤕😆 Without strong but calm and balanced correction, he would have remained uncontrollable. Because of his huge heart, intelligence and a buttload of work from me, now EVERYONE thinks he's a pure angel 👼😜🙄 Only I and a few close friends know the devilish side, lol. 😈(not his fault tho) I've had utterly amazing, out of this world moments in our hospice work, with people on their death bed, unresponsive, coming alive one last time for The Giant's gentle head on their bed, soft fur in their hands, their families and friends so grateful for one last good moment. And this dog was going to be tossed away !!😮 I shake my head. You are both lucky enough to have many, many of those stories. ***RESPECT TO YOU BOTH***, not only in caring for voiceless animals that sorely need it, but also for yourselves and loved ones. Please keep on keeping on, PLEASE KNOW THE HIGH REGARD the good people in the animal world hold you. And how many dogs absolutely worship you?!? Ha, a huge army of dogs and their owners speak for you! What an honor! Woof!🐕💗
I am here to learn and also to share. I live in a county with an astronomical number of shelter dogs and only one no-kill shelter. I participated in a program to take a shelter dog out for the day and posted pics etc on Facebook to try to get him adopted. Three days later, the shelter called and said I was the "last call" and had to pick him up the next day or he’d be put down. He’s a red-nosed pit who has been viciously attacked by another dog so he looks pretty rough but he’s very sweet and non-reactive. I want him to have the best chance for adoption as possible so I need to work on the leash with him and basics like "sit" and being comfortable in his kennel. In a few days, we’ve made so much progress thanks to both of your videos on RUclips. You two are a gift to both canines and their families; I’m grateful 🙏🏼 and so is my dog 🐶 ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
To be a good dog trainer you have to be spiritually in shape . I’ve been a dog trainer for 7 months and thankfully have an AMAZING teacher but man , it has gotten me out of my head and has completely changed my mental health for the better. It has completely changed my vibe and I feel like I’m operating on a different frequency than most people . Lol. ( btw it’s not about how many months / years you have been a dog trainer it’s about how many dogs have you trained and how quickly you can read a dog ) .
I know it sounds goofy but aye it’s true
This was awesome. I loved it. Always grateful to have you introduce another person in the dog space that is great to follow.
“Is she an avid hunter?” 😂… thanks for this podcast, such important and foundational information that any dog owner should listen to. I especially appreciate the comment on focusing on being proactive rather than waiting for a problem to come up.
This whole thing was very helpful Tom. I struggle with just about every aspect you brought up on this video and I really needed to see this today. Thank you so much for doing what you so, and sharing this.
So here is my question; as a deputy dog warden who does get some leash time at our facility, what is most beneficial to implement when I have time with a dog to enhance the adoption rate. All dogs have different behaviors and needs, I get that. But I’d love pointers…. I’d love love to get you into our facility to teach those of us who want to learn to help our dogs. I’m ecstatic over this podcast! And thank you for your positive words towards shelter workers and volunteers
I see a parallel between how people are treating their dogs and how they are raising their kids, to the tremendous detriment of society
Some kickass podcasts from Tom recently.
❤ this perspective. Very grounded and patient. Great guest.
Balanced dog training! Yes!! Excellent podcast. Love you guys and what you do.
I appreciate the topics discussed and the depth of understanding shared. Thanks to what I'm learning from Tom, Will and now KD, I am experiencing a transformation within. It took some time and a hard look at myself to recognize the need for me to undo expectations, set aside my own ideas and begin to undo old habits around dog training. I am now beginning to see Max (my Belgium Shepherd Grandinele) as he is and molding myself to understand his needs better instead of expecting him to "get" me. As this work evolves I find my own issues come to light. It's amazing how forgiving canines can be in helping us to better ourselves. I see dog training more as self work process than dog work and better understand why its so difficult for others. Change is hard.. : )
I love this, thank you gentlemen.
Good info. I have 2 yr old Schipperke and we’re just starting obedience competitions. Your videos have been very helpful. Always enjoy watching. 💪🏼🐺
You guys are awesome ❤
Love hour videos and podcasts. Seems like to many people debate what training is best but loss sight of whats best for the dog. If positive only works great, but if it doesn't you have to do whatever it takes to help the dog. Love your training style and I know from personal expeience with my dogs that it works. Keep up the great work and dont worry what others think or say. Maybe they wish they could get the results that you do and because they can't they lash out.
I always say I use the 7 habits of highly effective people to train dogs and it flows over into your life.
KD, I keep floss picks in my cup holder of my car. I grabbed one as soon as you discussed keeping promises for yourself.
I disagree a bit with the comment about why dogs are in shelters. A lot of dogs are in shelters and rescues because people don’t do their due diligence with respect to what is the right dog for them and their family. If they did the research on the breed, then maybe they wouldn’t get a lot of these dogs - examples are the many people who have German Shepherds, Cane Corsos or other types of protection breeds without understanding the leadership, that they need to instill in order to have that dog be balanced.
I agree 100%.
that to
Correction : guardian breeds. Protection and guardian are 2 very different things. But yes, you're correct many don't research whether they can fulfill the dogs genetic needs. Then at the opposite end of the scale. You have people go into shelters and their emotions take over
I believe that German Shepherds, Cane Corsos, Dobermans, Belgians and Rottweilers etc. are protection dogs, not guardian dogs? My understanding of guardian dogs would be more the Preat Pyrenees, Maremmas, Akbash, Rhodesian Ridgebacks and other dogs that are raised to. guard or protect livestock. I also would not recommend herding breeds of any type to people who aren't willing to put in the effort that it takes to work with them.
Excellent point!!
Best way to build a dog house. Year 1975: with advice from grandfather - we built around the styrofoam that encased some appliance (probably an old fashioned tv) It was completely insulated. Our dog house had a floor. . . Shiplap inside and out, a gabled roof with shingles. We painted it barn red. It went with us from Virginia to our move to Pennsylvania. (It weighed a “ton”) Our dog lived in it for 13 years.I’m pretty sure he was warmer in his house than we were in our rented stone farm house with a wood burning stove.
Year 2024. Our inside dog loves his crate with a K9 raised bed that is under an antique table. We don’t live on a farm now. Our poor inside dog :-(
The fact the bare minimum is so low. It’s so sad. Even with my first lab who is 8 now, sure I didn’t know exactly what I was doing in puppy hood and training. But I realize I can have a better more fun relationship with him if I went back to foundation. He’s still not perfect but the improvement I have seen is astounding.
Thanks for this podcast, enjoyed it
That's dope..never knew you trained Jiu-jitsu!!!
You are s dope dog trainer
This was a Great podcast! Glad to hear you joined the jiu jitsu cult!
My . heavenly God I had no idea zero idea any of this existed.... WOW!...thank you for helping dogs even though insane people really couldnt care less... so weird
1:16:15 perpetuating the very state that created the problem
Hi does anyone know if Tom’s puppy kickstart course works for a possible future service dog? I keep being told it “has to be” positive reinforcement only for service dogs.
Tom! Try everyday dose. It taste better to me
This is typical of the comedy podcast skits on sm I think podcasts won’t be around forever it’s hard to find the truth this was a good one however with some Andrew huberman type bits in
This is exactly what I needed to see today. Love this conversation! I have noticed the difference in you the last 6 months or so. I was wondering if and when you were gonna tell us what you were doing different. I learned a lot from this, even patted myself on the back for things I have been integrating organically. Beautiful podcast start to finish! 🩷
Thank you!!
Purchased a Belgian Malinois puppy when I already had a standard doxy. So basically, now I have a BM who acts just like a doxy. 🙄
❤
FYI the podcast version of this has a constant clicking noise - couldn't listen to more than 20 minutes of it, was driving me crazy
We swapped that audio out yesterday, sorry about that.
@@tomdavisofficial Still doing it for me today. All good, just thought you would want to know, sounds good on RUclips so I can just watch here instead.
Tom I wish we could come to you for a private lesson with you for one or two hours. As we are only 2 and a half hours from you.
no kidding we don't care about the bullshit politics!! that's because we CARE about what is worth caring about...our dogs.