That seemed to be for a sketch. Could have done the same thing in AutoCAD but what is the point if someone just had to draw one line? The hardware used are expensive land surveying devices that can be precise enough for submillimetre measurements.
Looks technologically great, there are two majors points tough: 1 - This level of precision does not make sense to referee a sport played by humans (this is debatable), 2 - In real games, this precision of the offside line has no utility if the frames per second do not enable you to stop the image at the exact right time (and this a fact), On close calls, we still do not know and should accept it and keep onfield decisions. Instead referees are ordered to trust VAR estimations as if it was 100% accurate.
Hey Fifa. All measuring tools have a built in inaccuracy. As an electrician I know that my Volt meter isn't 100% accurate and even if I grab 2 meters from the same manufacturer I might get 2 different readings. The manufacturer supplies a "tolerance" for the measurement and often this is up to 2% with the best meters giving a tolerance of 0,5 - 0,25%. What is the tolerance of this VAR system?
Far too complicated mate. Let's blindy trust technology and be amazed by the precision when hawk-eye indicates a Goal/No goal for 1cm. It is much more simple.
Exactly my point. Moreso, focus is more as to what is closer to the ground. Possibly neglecting a situation say a sting of hair of an attacker puts him offside. I wonder why we would work with "negligible offside".
So why are they not using this system. An under pressure VAR ref, quickly drawing lines taken from an out of focus still shot, from the TV camera's!? Surely by now, we could separate hi-res camera's and a computer drawing the lines?
It doesn't need to replay the match if referees and var go wrong you can see again the faults and in case one goal is not correct you can erase it and if one goal is correct you can plus it in the end of the match is simply
And notwithstanding, you are making finite calculations from cameras filming at 25fps where you should use high speed cameras, not the cameras filming the game.
And then, even at 4k, zooming in from a camera 100 metres away, will lose detail, such as on a bootlace or hair on a player's head. There should be a much greater margin of error introduced for the uncertainty in measurement. It must total at least 10-20 mm.
impressive video about the VAR topic. but all this infos and view doesn´t matter if the VAR referee doesn use this system right best example for that was last weekend on the merseyside derby!!! where liverpool was cheated by the supposedly winning goal from jordan henderson
exact le hors jeu doit être juger au départ du pied du passeur et pas a la réception d'un autre joeur c'est une erreurde baucoups d'arbitres avec système de visionnage que la FIFA utilise sans mon accord ni indemnités car c'est moi qui l'ai élaborer et enregistrer en 2005 et proposé à la fifa depuis 2013 sans réponse et maintenant ils l'on entrer dans la loi du jeu depuis mars 2016 ,je l'ai ais donc assignés au tribunal de Bruxelles et nous en sommes aux conclusions et ils n'ont aucune chance car toutes les preuves de ma paternité sont dans une enveloppe scèlée qui ne sera ouverte que par le juge et lui deul a l'audiance
They literally explained one angle can entirely change perspective, so they can easily be missing the right angle, players can also obscure others which leads to refs guessing, also refs have no clue of where one body part starts and another ends under a shirt which can change it by mm. The next part for me is offsides by mm, are we really saying a few mm is an advantage for the attacker, surely there should be some leeway, mm is ridiculous and impacted by where the ref draws the line and when they guess the ball is struck.
This isn't VAR's problem. Change the laws if you don't want a player to be deemed offside if its a mere mm but bear in mind that whatever you change it to there will be a measurement that is going to be mm one side or the other.
ojalá funcione por que lo malo del VAR es que gasta mucho mientras analizan una jugada, muchas polemicas van a ver en el mundial de rusia 2018 por el var londice la prensa :/ Grettings :3
la ligne virtuelle est ma propriété,je l'avais confier a une société de Ans / Liège pour qu'il trouve la possibilité de la faire apparaitre sur l'écran;ils l'ont fait mais ils ce sont adresser à la FIFA directement sans rien me dire et ils ont eus un contrat de deux ans pour la Belgique je vais les assignés au tribunal si ils ne me contacte pas pour indemnités car c'est moi qui l'ai élaborer en 2005 et proposer à la FIFA en2013 et eux sont dans le même cas
I must admit I don't like VAR.I have seen it work and it's the right decision, but of course a lot of players and managers were moaning that it should be introduced,,but they only wanted it to get the advantage. Sorry:)
We know you guys manipulate these offside calls to suit your narrative. You guys sometimes allow play to continue after already giving your verdict so that you have time to drag players about with that program you use. An updated AutoCad could do the same
un seul visionneur devant un écran géant avec une vue de tout le terrain dans sa longueur et toute la profondeur de la largeur pour les hors jeu il y a une ligne virtuelle pour vérifier la justesse des hors jeu et autres fautes de plus le visionneur voit les fautes commises dans le dos de l'arbitre et peut zoomer toues les caméras en même temps et peut voir jusque dans les pieds des joueurs ,si je n'ait pas gain de cause c'est qu'il y aura tricherie comme cela a été jusque maintenant l'idée et son concept sont protégés et déposer a (l'OBPI) l'organisme bancaire de protection des idées,dessins,concepts,et protection intellectuelle et c'est une preuve formelle avec la date de dépôt qui dans mon cas est le 02/09/2005 car je savais en tant qu'ancien joueur professionnel les arbitres en allait avoir besoin car le football moderne est beaucoup plus rapide,technique et les arbitres des divisions supérieure ont un certain âge et ne font pas le 100 m en dix seconde,de plus ils ne peuvent voir tout le terrain en même temps c'est pour cela que la limite d'age pour officier sur le terrain est de 45 ans et les visionneurs ne demande pas mieux que de rester dans le sport qu'il ont pratiqués pendant de nombreuses années
Andrew Martin Definitely, What was wrong with The Lineman who tracked the last defender , and see ,s when the attacker kicks the ball forward, VAR shows about five frames, NO there should only be one and it should be in line with the last defender, that’s the Law ,
la ligne virtuelle doit être visible tout le match elle doit être placée dans le prolongement de la ligne du grand rectangle car c'est la que l'ont conteste le plus souvent et elle ne gène pas plus que la ligne du grand rectangle ;c'est moi qui l'ai créer dans mon visonnage que la FIFA utilise sans ma permition et entrer dans la loi du jeu en mars 2016,je les ais assignés nous en sommes aux conclusions mais toute les preuves sont dans une enveloppe scèlée par la banque de protection et ne peut être ouverte par le juge le jour de l'audience ,je suis donc propriétaire a part entière du visionnage depuis qu'ils s'ent servent officiellement (mars 2016) et la société qui la proposer a la FIFA c'est servie du projet que je leurs ai remis et adresser à la FIFA ils vont aussi devoir m'indemnisé car ils l'ont utilisés sans mon accord ,ni aucun courrier pour me demander s'il pouvait le faire
I can understand calling paint "low-tech", but what's not "high tech" about Excel? It's the industry standard for spreadsheets and statistical analysis. Those fancy "control system" screens you see in the movies are not realistic at all. For instance, hacking involves using a text editor to edit script, like Notepad++. The movies will make you think it requires a special computer with some software with a dark gray background and "hacker font" spitting out a thousand characters per second with a progress bar. Don't get me started on the buzzwords like "tracing IP" or "uploading virus".
I'm sure it does. It seems like they were just inputting data into excel for calculations. I don't believe the entire system runs of Excel. You can actually make cool calculators with excel. Input data into certain fields and it will do your calculations to your programming to fill out other fields with your desired information. Complicated to explain, but if you ever want to learn more about it, google it. It can really help you out a lot in the real world, especially if you're into finance :)
Completely flawed system because you don’t explain how you know exactly when the ball is kicked - Ben Chillwell was running at at least 25kph from an onside position so 100mm travel is 0.01440092 seconds - how do to know at what point Thiago Silva kicked the ball? You’re doing half a job - you need microphones to determine the exact moment the ball was kicked. 🤷♂️
Very interesting, it's always nice to see passionate people talking about what they are doing
Nice to see they're using MS Paint as one of their high tech tools. No wonder it's so accurate.
Pixel perfect accuracy
That seemed to be for a sketch. Could have done the same thing in AutoCAD but what is the point if someone just had to draw one line? The hardware used are expensive land surveying devices that can be precise enough for submillimetre measurements.
Brilliant
My question is, how does the calibration fare when the stands have vibration in them? Wouldn't they be thrown off?
Looks technologically great, there are two majors points tough:
1 - This level of precision does not make sense to referee a sport played by humans (this is debatable),
2 - In real games, this precision of the offside line has no utility if the frames per second do not enable you to stop the image at the exact right time (and this a fact),
On close calls, we still do not know and should accept it and keep onfield decisions. Instead referees are ordered to trust VAR estimations as if it was 100% accurate.
Hey Fifa. All measuring tools have a built in inaccuracy. As an electrician I know that my Volt meter isn't 100% accurate and even if I grab 2 meters from the same manufacturer I might get 2 different readings. The manufacturer supplies a "tolerance" for the measurement and often this is up to 2% with the best meters giving a tolerance of 0,5 - 0,25%.
What is the tolerance of this VAR system?
Far too complicated mate. Let's blindy trust technology and be amazed by the precision when hawk-eye indicates a Goal/No goal for 1cm. It is much more simple.
Exactly my point.
Moreso, focus is more as to what is closer to the ground. Possibly neglecting a situation say a sting of hair of an attacker puts him offside.
I wonder why we would work with "negligible offside".
Yay if they'll use this next ucl season we will finally have a new winner
Agraewq Putxhd agree
Can't remember goals from offside scored by Real Madrid. Would you like to help?
yeah Barcelona
Zhango Munich last champions in extra time
Funny
That’s sickkkk
So why are they not using this system. An under pressure VAR ref, quickly drawing lines taken from an out of focus still shot, from the TV camera's!?
Surely by now, we could separate hi-res camera's and a computer drawing the lines?
I think liga 1 indonesia need to use this technology because too many offsides didn't see by referee
Zuni Aprio ga bakal bro. Teknologi nya mahal
nobody cares abt indonesia
Duitnya mana bro
Well done
Brilliant. Wonder if they use something similar in American football? (I don't think so)
Why have the ads in the stadium been blocked out
ethkatzy because this videos purpose is not to advertise...
We want this in ISL
It doesn't need to replay the match if referees and var go wrong you can see again the faults and in case one goal is not correct you can erase it and if one goal is correct you can plus it in the end of the match is simply
Woww.... Technology speaks
My question is
If he was onside but the AR calls it offsides what would be the proper thing to do
If no whistle was blown then it’s a goal after VAR
VAR is being used at the world cup? Man!!! I had £50 on Suarez to bite someone.
he said he has " matured " since the bite lol
But he is still "hungry" for victory.
And notwithstanding, you are making finite calculations from cameras filming at 25fps where you should use high speed cameras, not the cameras filming the game.
And then, even at 4k, zooming in from a camera 100 metres away, will lose detail, such as on a bootlace or hair on a player's head. There should be a much greater margin of error introduced for the uncertainty in measurement. It must total at least 10-20 mm.
impressive video about the VAR topic. but all this infos and view doesn´t matter if the VAR referee doesn use this system right best example for that was last weekend on the merseyside derby!!! where liverpool was cheated by the supposedly winning goal from jordan henderson
What Website is this? I wan't to do it for my Science Fair.
Why You get projection on a normal line to goal-line and not to player direction run' line?
They are using Paint!? Really!?
Paint is underrated
BUT IT IS STILL PAINT!
exact le hors jeu doit être juger au départ du pied du passeur et pas a la réception d'un autre joeur c'est une erreurde baucoups d'arbitres avec système de visionnage que la FIFA utilise sans mon accord ni indemnités car c'est moi qui l'ai élaborer et enregistrer en 2005 et proposé à la fifa depuis 2013 sans réponse et maintenant ils l'on entrer dans la loi du jeu depuis mars 2016 ,je l'ai ais donc assignés au tribunal de Bruxelles et nous en sommes aux conclusions et ils n'ont aucune chance car toutes les preuves de ma paternité sont dans une enveloppe scèlée qui ne sera ouverte que par le juge et lui deul a l'audiance
But how does the red and yellow line know which player is the defender and which is the attacker?
They literally explained one angle can entirely change perspective, so they can easily be missing the right angle, players can also obscure others which leads to refs guessing, also refs have no clue of where one body part starts and another ends under a shirt which can change it by mm.
The next part for me is offsides by mm, are we really saying a few mm is an advantage for the attacker, surely there should be some leeway, mm is ridiculous and impacted by where the ref draws the line and when they guess the ball is struck.
This isn't VAR's problem. Change the laws if you don't want a player to be deemed offside if its a mere mm but bear in mind that whatever you change it to there will be a measurement that is going to be mm one side or the other.
My suggestion would be to go back and check your technology again lads. It seemed very broken last season. 😂
one stadium, how much is the price to install var?
I want this in Brazilian soccer!
Football*
great!
interesante con el aspecto off-side con experimento de calculo fisica y geometria (matematicamente) para no dudar nada...ah veo q esta usando paint??
Is this gonna be added in FIFA World Cup 2018?
benji mARCHE did you even watch the video? Yes it will be used.
We still waiting. Maybe in chl?
ojalá funcione por que lo malo del VAR es que gasta mucho mientras analizan una jugada, muchas polemicas van a ver en el mundial de rusia 2018 por el var londice la prensa :/ Grettings :3
If a team earn goal from a wrong decision from a faul or corner var have to call referee and clear the first decision and the goal dont excist
Okey Doke!...Finally...Virtual Assistant Video (VAR) can draw a straight offside line. GREAT! FIFA 2018 @Duchman Productions +254...
la ligne virtuelle est ma propriété,je l'avais confier a une société de Ans / Liège pour qu'il trouve la possibilité de la faire apparaitre sur l'écran;ils l'ont fait mais ils ce sont adresser à la FIFA directement sans rien me dire et ils ont eus un contrat de deux ans pour la Belgique je vais les assignés au tribunal si ils ne me contacte pas pour indemnités car c'est moi qui l'ai élaborer en 2005 et proposer à la FIFA en2013 et eux sont dans le même cas
Ingenioso
They’ve been abusing this in the EPL
Abusing it? How?
I must admit I don't like VAR.I have seen it work and it's the right decision, but of course a lot of players and managers were moaning that it should be introduced,,but they only wanted it to get the advantage.
Sorry:)
We know you guys manipulate these offside calls to suit your narrative. You guys sometimes allow play to continue after already giving your verdict so that you have time to drag players about with that program you use. An updated AutoCad could do the same
Mane vs everton was offside wasnt it bud
Who is here after Japan scored 2-1 against Spain in Qatar WC
That's in Mainz or🤔?
derivatives and integrals
Not convinced
Ojalá sea usado para bien y no para ROBAR como todas las champions del UEFALONA
A league final
un seul visionneur devant un écran géant avec une vue de tout le terrain dans sa longueur et toute la profondeur de la largeur pour les hors jeu il y a une ligne virtuelle pour vérifier la justesse des hors jeu et autres fautes de plus le visionneur voit les fautes commises dans le dos de l'arbitre et peut zoomer toues les caméras en même temps et peut voir jusque dans les pieds des joueurs ,si je n'ait pas gain de cause c'est qu'il y aura tricherie comme cela a été jusque maintenant l'idée et son concept sont protégés et déposer a (l'OBPI) l'organisme bancaire de protection des idées,dessins,concepts,et protection intellectuelle et c'est une preuve formelle avec la date de dépôt qui dans mon cas est le 02/09/2005 car je savais en tant qu'ancien joueur professionnel les arbitres en allait avoir besoin car le football moderne est beaucoup plus rapide,technique et les arbitres des divisions supérieure ont un certain âge et ne font pas le 100 m en dix seconde,de plus ils ne peuvent voir tout le terrain en même temps c'est pour cela que la limite d'age pour officier sur le terrain est de 45 ans et les visionneurs ne demande pas mieux que de rester dans le sport qu'il ont pratiqués pendant de nombreuses années
Ojala y funcione
Bring back The Linesman, it’s so easy , just stay with the last defender, I ran the line for years, never had a complaint , 😀😀
No discussion of when ball kick camera sync latency or frame rate so rather pointless
wow love u
RIP CORINTHIANS
Poor Pep...
why use this in world cup 😒😒
Just get rid of the offside rule.... simple.
All disslikes is from morocco
Flawed system. Go to 3m 56secs. You’ve paused the play when the person with the ball is about to kick it, not when the ball is released.
Andrew Martin Definitely, What was wrong with The Lineman who tracked the last defender , and see ,s when the attacker kicks the ball forward, VAR shows about five frames, NO there should only be one and it should be in line with the last defender, that’s the Law ,
la ligne virtuelle doit être visible tout le match elle doit être placée dans le prolongement de la ligne du grand rectangle car c'est la que l'ont conteste le plus souvent et elle ne gène pas plus que la ligne du grand rectangle ;c'est moi qui l'ai créer dans mon visonnage que la FIFA utilise sans ma permition et entrer dans la loi du jeu en mars 2016,je les ais assignés nous en sommes aux conclusions mais toute les preuves sont dans une enveloppe scèlée par la banque de protection et ne peut être ouverte par le juge le jour de l'audience ,je suis donc propriétaire a part entière du visionnage depuis qu'ils s'ent servent officiellement (mars 2016) et la société qui la proposer a la FIFA c'est servie du projet que je leurs ai remis et adresser à la FIFA ils vont aussi devoir m'indemnisé car ils l'ont utilisés sans mon accord ,ni aucun courrier pour me demander s'il pouvait le faire
What
Hello VAR .
Please come in ISL 😂
15 persons are RM fans
this is not 3d real technology
@fenerbahçe
....Still waiting in La Liga Santander. That'll stop Real Uefadrid.
Jefferson They will use VAR next season.
Hahahaha, typical Refalona fan
ms paint and excel....HIGH TECH lol
I can understand calling paint "low-tech", but what's not "high tech" about Excel? It's the industry standard for spreadsheets and statistical analysis.
Those fancy "control system" screens you see in the movies are not realistic at all.
For instance, hacking involves using a text editor to edit script, like Notepad++. The movies will make you think it requires a special computer with some software with a dark gray background and "hacker font" spitting out a thousand characters per second with a progress bar. Don't get me started on the buzzwords like "tracing IP" or "uploading virus".
Well, thanks for the info....But I really think that VAR system is so damn good that it needs its own software and stuff....
I'm sure it does. It seems like they were just inputting data into excel for calculations. I don't believe the entire system runs of Excel.
You can actually make cool calculators with excel. Input data into certain fields and it will do your calculations to your programming to fill out other fields with your desired information. Complicated to explain, but if you ever want to learn more about it, google it. It can really help you out a lot in the real world, especially if you're into finance :)
You seem like Mr. smarty pants....where are from and what do you do? Hi I am from India
Completely flawed system because you don’t explain how you know exactly when the ball is kicked - Ben Chillwell was running at at least 25kph from an onside position so 100mm travel is 0.01440092 seconds - how do to know at what point Thiago Silva kicked the ball? You’re doing half a job - you need microphones to determine the exact moment the ball was kicked. 🤷♂️
De que adianta essa porra se chega na hora os cara não marca igual foi aquele penalti no primeiro jogo da final da libertadores ano passado.
Ruined the game
Hahaha this is a joke right?