For anyone interested in scaling figures: if you scale epic up by 186% (6mm to 11.2mm) or regular 40k to 40% (28mm to 11.2mm), you'll end up with "metric" minis. The 11mm size is based on converting imperial to metric (28mm * (10/25) = 11.2mm); what this means is that with 11.2mm minis you can play standard 28mm games using metric instead of imperial measurements on smaller coffee table sized boards, or play large size games on full sized tables using standard imperial measurements without the game feeling cluttered by overly large models that can't fit around terrain. It's basically the perfect intermediary scale.
This is one of the reasons that 3d printers are such a massive boon for wargamers and table-top gamers in general. The fact that you don't have to be constrained to the scale gaming minis come in if you have limited space opens up the hobby to a lot more people. Sure, the printer itself does take up space, but your average beginner resin printer (such as an Elegoo Mars) has a much smaller footprint than the cases you would need to store a typical 40K army. And once the initial investment in the printer is paid, it's a far more economic way to get into a miniature game. The only real drawback is the time it takes to print the minis, but if you're painting your minis in batches rather than all at once, you'll likely be painting one set while another is printing anyway. And it's relatively easy to adjust your scale to whatever you want. All STL files can be scaled to what you need in your slicer program before printing, just be sure to keep note of how much you scale a mini by, so you can make sure everything matches up. Honestly, the hardest part would be deciding what scale to convert the rules to. Will you just cut the scale in half and divide all the distances by two? Or convert inches to centimeters and make everything a third of the size? It really depends on how small you want to go, and how small your printer will still be able to print at. Personally, I feel converting inches to centimeters is a good place to start, since you can scale down your models to 33% easy enough, and most tailor's measuring tapes (which are perfect for wargames) have both inches and centimeters already.
Starting playing 15mm historical (ADLG) a couple of years ago and really enjoy the scale, plus 120x180mm is all the space you need for full 200-300pt games.
Honestly, it makes so much more sense for TTRPGs. Being able to create sprawling cities or environments in 10 or 15mm and populating it with civilians or swarms of enemies on a coffee table rather than a 6x4 makes so much more sense for the layman gamer or GM who wants to tell a story on a smaller space and budget.
Tiny Warhammer is the best way to play Warhammer in my opinion. I have been printing and playing both Warhammer Fantasy and 40k in 15mm scale ever since I was inspired to do so after watching your first 'Make Warhammer Tiny' video, it's great. I would love to see you do even more of these Tiny Warhammer videos.
That's awesome to hear. Do you convert the 6x4 table down to 3x2? And do you go from inches to centimeters? I'm sure that's not a perfect 1 to 1 ratio but seems like that's what most people do and it works
@@control745 Yes, I play on a 3x2 table. I convert inches to centimetres for measuring. The other thing that I do is use flame and blast templates that are printed to be half the size of regular templates.
@@darekdariusz8910 There are a few sculptors on Patreon that we use. Most of our models are actually Warmaster models designed by ForestDragon, scaled up 125% to fit on 10mm bases. They come presupported and print perfectly for Tiny Warhammer.
Love the 15mm scale. I use the Forest Dragon warmaster 3d files and print them at 150%. This makes great 15mm fantasy armies. For me 15 mm is perfect just enough detail not to big not to small.
This is fantastic! I love the size of the tanks and knights. Something about them being the size of a matchbox car is just so appealing. The only thing missing from the set are tiny dice.
Absolutely love how you fit a entire game board into a picture frame. There is no reason to have to have some monstrous game table large scale destruction in the grim dark universe
I really like that as well. It's semi-rigid, contained, and more easily stored than a full table. I just lost my play space and have been thinking about making a table myself, but I live in a small space and can't have something that large laying around.
Guy's guest spots really cracked me up 😂😂😂 Those 12mm Space Marines are the absolute canem testiculorum 😍😍😍😍 4:01 The Roadies tucking in to their Full English. The Happy Luke Dance at the end is the icing on an excellent cake.
"Ah, the sponsored segment. I wonder which modelling products company it is?" *Watches Luke cooking for several minutes in quiet disbelief* I was looking at Stroganoff's Battlestrider model this week, it's a glorious model. I note they recommended 133% scaling to get from Epic to Adeptus Titanicus scale.
@@GeekGamingScenics it seemed like longer... Mind you, given the average gamer's...er... silhouette (mine included), a few healthy eating tips wouldn't go amiss.
This is the most excited I've been about a project in forever. Adeptus was my first 40K experience way back in 1989, and I've been looking for that feeling ever since without the tedious little Epic figures or the gigantic amount of floor space. Watching this made me feel like I was 15 again.
Ah this was excellent and brings back memories, a friend and I used to wage a huge 40k Epic warfront on wallpaper folding tables in a local village hall over two days. Alas the figures are currently residing in the loft perhaps this will prompt a dining table battle with my daughter as a commander.
Wholeheartedly agree - smaller game footprints make this hobby far more accessible. Wish I'd discovered the joys of 15mm earlier; just treat centimetres as inches and suddenly you can pack multiple boards into a suitcase. And STILL have space for clothes! I've now got an old art box with two boards set up inside, and am working in a set of 36 10x10cm modular tiles which can pack into a small briefcase. That's three different biomes fitting into the space of four 28mm buildings. Can't see myself going back
Good point on accessibility. Outside of cost, it's far easier for someone to get into something they can put away on a shelf or in a closet. 40k has gotten physically larger (scale creep) and larger in scale itself (larger armies, larger warmachines, etc). It's intimidating and all of those larger size and number of models take up more and more space. I live in a small place, and having an option like this means it's easier for me to consider about than having to make a giant table and shelving beyond shelving for my models.
@@ScooterinAB Agreed, it's wonderful having stuff that can fit entirely into a regular cupboard! Or even a shoebox. When I go holidaying, my collection of 70ish minis for skirmish campaigning can fit safely packed into three screws and bolts storage compartments. Smaller scales mean terrain doesn't have to be so exquisitely detailed, so can be less intimidating to make. There's more scope for indicative scenery without having to match the larger, more intricate kits which have become the norm.
Way back around White Dwarf 213 to 220 era (late 1990's) there was an article/letter published where 2 people had magnetized their epic models and created a small scale travel board and game to play 40k on a tiny epic scale when on long road trips. This very much reminds me of that, barring the magnetized board and models. The flip side of your approach is to collect squads of the large scale plastic action figure space marines and play on very large scaled playing areas (backyards have a wealth of natural terrain) but that aside, I love how you've got this mix of 3D printed models and GW models mixed in - that quiet equal ground between 3D printing everything and enjoying existing models without just ripping them off completely.
I am absolutely on your side! Hope to see more content from you on that scale... I loved Dropzone Commander back in the good old days. And with 3D printing you can easily convert nearly everything into a smaller size!
Before watching this video, I was never too interested in smaller scale warhammer or minis. Maybe it was I just saw some small scale minis that weren't my taste or something else, but what y'all showed has now got me interested. The scaling of minis in a 3D printer definitely makes it more likeable to me, so I can still choose the minis I want but at a different scale, and the paint jobs and terrain look wonderful. I may give it a try. Keep up the great work!
Absolutely brill mate, love it! This is exactly what I've always been about with this hobby - making it your own. Your models, your gaming table, your rules. The fact you made it all so it just 'folds away' into your living room is completely genius. Play on Sir!
ok now that is COOL!!! Love the tiny tanks and marines. One of the cool ideas from this is that you don't have to paint forever and edge highlight like a maniac - you can knock them out and get gaming in no time! Great concept guys! :):)
I'm down sizing my 20mm Early WWII to 6mm and an entire army fits into a box folder, and at Phalanx the other month a chap there was down sizing all his historical to 10mm from Pendraken. 6mm looks fantastic on a table.
I’ve been seeing quite a few smaller scale games being created on purpose built small gaming tables. I think this is awesome and is just perfect for anyone with a small space, something a 6x4 table would be too large for. And as you said, you can put a couple of these smaller gaming tables together to make any size you need for a game. Thanks for sharing this with us, I have lots of ideas now and the wall will look better with them as well! Oh, I’m from New Zealand so the fact you actually have ready basing based on New Zealand terrain is just the bees knees! Gonna track me some down!
This is fantastic. If your trying to get friends started into Warhammer, or want 40k travel edition this is perfect. 1 day of prep for just as much fun is awsome and way more enticing for those who aren't already invested
Nice idea. So much more accessible than standard 40k. the latest 40k apocalypse rules work really well on a smaller scale if you want something in between standard 40k and Epic in terms of army sizes.
Could you tell us witch models you used? I love the idea of smaller sized warhammer and one of the first things ill do with my 3D-printer (get it next week) is printing some downscaled armies for 40k and Fantasy.
G'day Luke! MAAAATE. This is awesoome! I can imagine something like this for a Travel Kill Team using magnets to stick them to the gameboard (being an A4 magnetic sheet) . Love it! Well done, mate!
I done a similar thing back in 3rd edition 40k. I used epic Eldar and Space Marines from epic and scalped down the board to an equivalent 4x4 to play small games. I used cork board and green felt. This allowed to scenery (hills, woods etc) stick to the felt base as I based the with felt. It turned out it was perfect for a 40k board while traveling on a train as stuff didn't slip around and was small enough to pack up in a small box afterwards. The playing area was 48cm squared. Ranges were in cm rather than inches.
I chose 25mm (1/72) scale for my gaming for this reason, and all terrain is modular. I do have a 8'x4' board, however the legs fold and it can be stored against the wall out of the way when needed. All my gaming mats are on a rolling closet rod hanger, custom made, on wheels, that can be easily moved out of the way. All my models and terrain are on a shelf unit on wheels that can also be wheeled out of the way as needed. Only down side is that everything is more or less hidden and I can't sit and oogle at everything.
Great ideas! I love the secret game board too. It reminds me of Thunderbirds, when at the press of a button the furniture in the room turns upside down and inside out; from a comfy lounge to mission central - HQ ))
Very nice work! We did the same in my club, but we scaled them down to suit cm, instead of inches. So a space marine base is now 1 cm wide, instead of 1 inch.
Great idea! I've just started printing epic models, but think I might need to move house soon and get rid of a lot of gaming stuff. Smaller scales will be my way forward too!
I've got a 20mm 30k project In the making. Iove how much less space I need for terrain etc. At 20mm I can use standard 28mm and scale down without losing a ton of details (for most models).
i've been playing 10mm kings of war for years and for me it's not the expense, although that is significant and who doesn't want to save money when you can! no, it's the feel. there's something about the scope of playing with really small pieces that makes the whole endeavour feel really cinematic in a way normal 28mm doesn't. it's hard to explain but just about everyone i've ever played with at smaller scales notices the difference in feel to the games. because it takes up so much less space it also allows for experimenting with interesting options- for example we sometimes play with more realistic missile weapon ranges. we usually extend the magic range out the same as missile weapons just for fun. you'd be amazed at what a difference having so much more room makes.
That's an awesome and inspirational project guys. I must admit, I'm pretty tempted by scaled down Warhammer at the moment. Heck I'm still half tempted by Epic too. I've had a load of old Epic miniatures lying around and thought I could scratch both the itch for small scale and Horus Heresy at the same time. Thanks for another fun video, carry on and take care ;)
Tiny Boardgaming becomes more and more appealing to me. I play Age of Fantasy Regiments with Warmaster Stripes and somehow due to the smaller regiment size, it feels a lot more epic. And yes, you can use smaller boards, less time to paint and assembly and field larger armies. Can't wait for my 3D printer, it is a follow-up model to yours, so I hope it will perform well with the 10mm scale.
I had a game once using epic armies and 40K rules. It was EPIC! One of my favourite parts was whe an ork buggy took damage, went out of countrol, flew past a couple of marine squads, hit the front of a land raider and exploded. The land raider took no damage and just drove over the buggy wreckage :) Took days to play it though...
So this video popped up in my feed this morning. And as someone who hasn't played Warhammer in 8+ years(specifically the lord of the rings side of Warhammer), this is an amazing way to get back into the franchise. Having them at 15mm, and having the game so portable is awesome! Now I need to find friends to play with 🤔 just subbed to your channel brotha !!
For me scaling down is not only great for playing larger games and armies with less space being taken but also if I can scale down and use this for dioramas which would be great so I can use 1/72-76 scale modeling kits with them.
Please do more modular small scale terrains and maybe show us some tips and tricks how to make them look really good (rivers and water features / small and tall hills maybe with cliff sides / beaches)...
I loved my days of Space Marine (epic) and still love this scale for just the very reasons you mentioned. I even turned on some friends into doing Flames of War with Microscale
I am very tempted to make a travel version of 30K/40K with the new Legions Imperialis models. You could have a 2'x1' board with a hinge, so that it folds up into a 1' square, and that would be to scale an 8' x 4' board. have it metal backed, mount all the Nu-Epic models onto magnets (or use a cork board and mount the models onto push pins), and you now have a very portable version of the game.
This is a grate idea. I'm not a war gammer BUT I do play a lot of TTRPGs and some of them are nice to play with minis etc (lancer) and yeah I think I'm going to give this a go for running games like lancer.
Love it! Would also love to see a modified ruleset. Not Epic necessarily, but a house rules version of 40k to speed things up and play a roughly 10k point game in a day or two. I guess apocalypse rules do that already? I'm not sure, haven't actually played it.
I must have missed your previous video so when you hung your gaming board up on the wall my mind was fu*king blown! That's a great idea! I've got loads of poster frames and doubling them as game boards would make playing so accessible. I need to find out how you incorporated the hook.
So cool to see someone else doing this too! I made Marines versus Orks and replayed Battle At The Farm but with a few additional units. I used One Page Rules and it was fast and fun. Also started printing off some downscaled 'Robot Legions' from OPR. Like you I used Tinkercad which is so easy to use. The whole setup is also really portable - army in a Lunchbox. Thanks for the video :-)
awesome! i thought about sizing down on minis and print out 2-4*15mm 1000k armys to do the same as you - playing warhammer but on a small table... love your content and ideas!
My group still play the old epic scale lots you can get a much bigger feeling battle on a smaller table or we team up on a big table for full on Armageddon size battles.
im actually in the middle of making a massive urban coffee table board. its the minimum GW table size for 500 pts. but its covered in 3-5 story tall buildings in a tight urban layout, the two halfs end up being 1.5'x2' and are meant to sit on either side of my TV when im not playing as displays for my two armies. the whole idea is you can sit on the couch while you play. it took almost a year to print all of the parts for just the buildings...
Imagine the amount of tiny killteams you could print/paint at that scale! TOTALLY agree with the convenience scale and being able to store it away easily :)
Great video. I really like the idea of hidden table-top stuff in general, being able to put things way in and not having serval shelfs wort of stuff sitting in the way is great. But having to do math every move or using a special ruler for moving is obnoxious. I crave for game that uses smaller scale but normal measurements. One people play.
This is an amazing idea. I love coffee table scale games and it makes me want to get a 3D printer, not sure my wife would approve haha. Also, loving the zoom functionality 🤣
Absolutely amazing. This is 100% what we need in the hobby. I could actually get into 40k gaming if I could just slap together an army like this, throw it into an organizing case, and go game on someone's coffee table. I absolutely can't fathom why Warhammer hasn't formally supported something like this yet, it would generate a ton of business
For anyone interested in scaling figures: if you scale epic up by 186% (6mm to 11.2mm) or regular 40k to 40% (28mm to 11.2mm), you'll end up with "metric" minis. The 11mm size is based on converting imperial to metric (28mm * (10/25) = 11.2mm); what this means is that with 11.2mm minis you can play standard 28mm games using metric instead of imperial measurements on smaller coffee table sized boards, or play large size games on full sized tables using standard imperial measurements without the game feeling cluttered by overly large models that can't fit around terrain. It's basically the perfect intermediary scale.
Very useful comment, sir. Very appreciated.
Or about 40% of a standard scale warhammer model, making ranges of 1 inch equal to 1 centimeter.
Thanks
I was thinking that as well. I'm just worse at math than you are. :P
Just saw this and that is awesome, thank you sir, will do.
This is one of the reasons that 3d printers are such a massive boon for wargamers and table-top gamers in general. The fact that you don't have to be constrained to the scale gaming minis come in if you have limited space opens up the hobby to a lot more people. Sure, the printer itself does take up space, but your average beginner resin printer (such as an Elegoo Mars) has a much smaller footprint than the cases you would need to store a typical 40K army. And once the initial investment in the printer is paid, it's a far more economic way to get into a miniature game. The only real drawback is the time it takes to print the minis, but if you're painting your minis in batches rather than all at once, you'll likely be painting one set while another is printing anyway.
And it's relatively easy to adjust your scale to whatever you want. All STL files can be scaled to what you need in your slicer program before printing, just be sure to keep note of how much you scale a mini by, so you can make sure everything matches up. Honestly, the hardest part would be deciding what scale to convert the rules to. Will you just cut the scale in half and divide all the distances by two? Or convert inches to centimeters and make everything a third of the size? It really depends on how small you want to go, and how small your printer will still be able to print at. Personally, I feel converting inches to centimeters is a good place to start, since you can scale down your models to 33% easy enough, and most tailor's measuring tapes (which are perfect for wargames) have both inches and centimeters already.
As a historical gamer, it's great seeing smaller scales make inroads into sci-fi and fantasy. Love it
My favorite part of FoW was the 15mm scale, feels very epic and fun
Starting playing 15mm historical (ADLG) a couple of years ago and really enjoy the scale, plus 120x180mm is all the space you need for full 200-300pt games.
Honestly, it makes so much more sense for TTRPGs. Being able to create sprawling cities or environments in 10 or 15mm and populating it with civilians or swarms of enemies on a coffee table rather than a 6x4 makes so much more sense for the layman gamer or GM who wants to tell a story on a smaller space and budget.
Shame that it had to be tied to the GW IP, when there’s loads of independent manufacturers for sci-fi in 6,10 and 15mm
Is it possible to download 3d printing materials for 15mm historical models (especially ancient and medieval) somewhere?
Love it, the armies and terrain is smashing guys. For someone who doesn’t have much space, this is a brilliant way to play.
Tiny Warhammer is the best way to play Warhammer in my opinion. I have been printing and playing both Warhammer Fantasy and 40k in 15mm scale ever since I was inspired to do so after watching your first 'Make Warhammer Tiny' video, it's great. I would love to see you do even more of these Tiny Warhammer videos.
That's awesome to hear. Do you convert the 6x4 table down to 3x2? And do you go from inches to centimeters? I'm sure that's not a perfect 1 to 1 ratio but seems like that's what most people do and it works
@@control745 Yes, I play on a 3x2 table. I convert inches to centimetres for measuring. The other thing that I do is use flame and blast templates that are printed to be half the size of regular templates.
Wher can I find 3d files?
My group has started doing this too! We play on 3x2 and in cm as well. It works perfectly.
@@darekdariusz8910 There are a few sculptors on Patreon that we use. Most of our models are actually Warmaster models designed by ForestDragon, scaled up 125% to fit on 10mm bases. They come presupported and print perfectly for Tiny Warhammer.
I love it. This is my new obsession after years of playing traditional 40k/fantasy. So accessible and can play on any kitchen table
Man, love this. Hope you continue this series - lots of us dislike that wargaming takes so much space and this is just about the perfect format.
Those tiny space marines look so damn cute lol, and getting an army done in a day has got to be satisfying.
Love the 15mm scale.
I use the Forest Dragon warmaster 3d files and print them at 150%.
This makes great 15mm fantasy armies.
For me 15 mm is perfect just enough detail not to big not to small.
Same, FD minis are great and scale well.
Where can I find this 3d files?
@@darekdariusz8910 Forest Dragon
Same dude 🤣
This is fantastic! I love the size of the tanks and knights. Something about them being the size of a matchbox car is just so appealing. The only thing missing from the set are tiny dice.
You can get 50 8mm dice from Ali like I did
Scrabble tiles as floor tiles is pretty clever
Absolutely love how you fit a entire game board into a picture frame. There is no reason to have to have some monstrous game table large scale destruction in the grim dark universe
I really like that as well. It's semi-rigid, contained, and more easily stored than a full table. I just lost my play space and have been thinking about making a table myself, but I live in a small space and can't have something that large laying around.
Our local club does this alot, a big thing they do is play the current rules of 40k but change all ranges to CM and works perfectly
hell yea dude
One of your best videos so far for me. You content is getting smarter and more practical with time!
Love this a lot, and specially the table on the back of a picture was sheer genius
Guy's guest spots really cracked me up 😂😂😂
Those 12mm Space Marines are the absolute canem testiculorum 😍😍😍😍
4:01 The Roadies tucking in to their Full English.
The Happy Luke Dance at the end is the icing on an excellent cake.
the bollocks' dog?
Really cool idea, size does really impact accessibility and travel options.
I absolutely love this and the economical use of space this scale offers in addition to the reduced painting load.
Those letter pieces from the works are a great idea for tiles, looks fantastic!
"Ah, the sponsored segment. I wonder which modelling products company it is?"
*Watches Luke cooking for several minutes in quiet disbelief*
I was looking at Stroganoff's Battlestrider model this week, it's a glorious model. I note they recommended 133% scaling to get from Epic to Adeptus Titanicus scale.
@@GeekGamingScenics it seemed like longer...
Mind you, given the average gamer's...er... silhouette (mine included), a few healthy eating tips wouldn't go amiss.
Spraying and dremelling that board on the glass garden table hurt me inside, but apart from that, great episode!! Love it!
This is the most excited I've been about a project in forever. Adeptus was my first 40K experience way back in 1989, and I've been looking for that feeling ever since without the tedious little Epic figures or the gigantic amount of floor space. Watching this made me feel like I was 15 again.
Ah this was excellent and brings back memories, a friend and I used to wage a huge 40k Epic warfront on wallpaper folding tables in a local village hall over two days. Alas the figures are currently residing in the loft perhaps this will prompt a dining table battle with my daughter as a commander.
Mate love your videos and products. As a veteran it helps a lot with my mental health and modelling too. Keep the great work going
I'm not one for giving professionals unsollicited advice, but DEFINITELY more puppy shots in the future.
Word!
This is straight up lovely. The terrain looks really nice with the turquoise and the browns/yellows, really different from the greys we often see
Wholeheartedly agree - smaller game footprints make this hobby far more accessible. Wish I'd discovered the joys of 15mm earlier; just treat centimetres as inches and suddenly you can pack multiple boards into a suitcase. And STILL have space for clothes!
I've now got an old art box with two boards set up inside, and am working in a set of 36 10x10cm modular tiles which can pack into a small briefcase. That's three different biomes fitting into the space of four 28mm buildings. Can't see myself going back
Good point on accessibility. Outside of cost, it's far easier for someone to get into something they can put away on a shelf or in a closet. 40k has gotten physically larger (scale creep) and larger in scale itself (larger armies, larger warmachines, etc). It's intimidating and all of those larger size and number of models take up more and more space. I live in a small place, and having an option like this means it's easier for me to consider about than having to make a giant table and shelving beyond shelving for my models.
@@ScooterinAB Agreed, it's wonderful having stuff that can fit entirely into a regular cupboard! Or even a shoebox. When I go holidaying, my collection of 70ish minis for skirmish campaigning can fit safely packed into three screws and bolts storage compartments.
Smaller scales mean terrain doesn't have to be so exquisitely detailed, so can be less intimidating to make. There's more scope for indicative scenery without having to match the larger, more intricate kits which have become the norm.
Way back around White Dwarf 213 to 220 era (late 1990's) there was an article/letter published where 2 people had magnetized their epic models and created a small scale travel board and game to play 40k on a tiny epic scale when on long road trips. This very much reminds me of that, barring the magnetized board and models. The flip side of your approach is to collect squads of the large scale plastic action figure space marines and play on very large scaled playing areas (backyards have a wealth of natural terrain) but that aside, I love how you've got this mix of 3D printed models and GW models mixed in - that quiet equal ground between 3D printing everything and enjoying existing models without just ripping them off completely.
I am absolutely on your side!
Hope to see more content from you on that scale... I loved Dropzone Commander back in the good old days.
And with 3D printing you can easily convert nearly everything into a smaller size!
Love this! Exactly what I'm looking to do. Glad to see someone else doing it!!
Great work, I am forever shrinking miniatures down to 15mm or even 6mm , fits nicely on the kitchen table
I love that it just...sits on the wall there. You wouldnt even know, and its a friggin warhammer poster too! :D really great choices all around.
Having your gaming board double as a poster on the wall was the cherry on this cake for me. Nicely done!
I think the whole thing is brilliant! The finishing touch was the two sided gaming board/poster--WoW!!
Before watching this video, I was never too interested in smaller scale warhammer or minis. Maybe it was I just saw some small scale minis that weren't my taste or something else, but what y'all showed has now got me interested. The scaling of minis in a 3D printer definitely makes it more likeable to me, so I can still choose the minis I want but at a different scale, and the paint jobs and terrain look wonderful. I may give it a try. Keep up the great work!
Absolutely brill mate, love it! This is exactly what I've always been about with this hobby - making it your own. Your models, your gaming table, your rules.
The fact you made it all so it just 'folds away' into your living room is completely genius. Play on Sir!
Best thing ever. I just finished working on some 15mm AOS and it is fantastic fun and much easier to store / much cheaper / much faster to paint.
ok now that is COOL!!! Love the tiny tanks and marines. One of the cool ideas from this is that you don't have to paint forever and edge highlight like a maniac - you can knock them out and get gaming in no time!
Great concept guys! :):)
Love this!
Really like the idea of doing this as a way of trying out new games!
I'm down sizing my 20mm Early WWII to 6mm and an entire army fits into a box folder, and at Phalanx the other month a chap there was down sizing all his historical to 10mm from Pendraken. 6mm looks fantastic on a table.
I’ve been seeing quite a few smaller scale games being created on purpose built small gaming tables. I think this is awesome and is just perfect for anyone with a small space, something a 6x4 table would be too large for. And as you said, you can put a couple of these smaller gaming tables together to make any size you need for a game. Thanks for sharing this with us, I have lots of ideas now and the wall will look better with them as well! Oh, I’m from New Zealand so the fact you actually have ready basing based on New Zealand terrain is just the bees knees! Gonna track me some down!
This is fantastic. If your trying to get friends started into Warhammer, or want 40k travel edition this is perfect.
1 day of prep for just as much fun is awsome and way more enticing for those who aren't already invested
Loved this, I agree that smaller scale can be a lot more fun and accessible.
Seriously one of the most interesting videos on hobby-tube in a while.
Nice idea. So much more accessible than standard 40k. the latest 40k apocalypse rules work really well on a smaller scale if you want something in between standard 40k and Epic in terms of army sizes.
Could you tell us witch models you used? I love the idea of smaller sized warhammer and one of the first things ill do with my 3D-printer (get it next week) is printing some downscaled armies for 40k and Fantasy.
G'day Luke! MAAAATE. This is awesoome! I can imagine something like this for a
Travel Kill Team using magnets to stick them to the gameboard (being an A4 magnetic sheet) . Love it! Well done, mate!
I done a similar thing back in 3rd edition 40k. I used epic Eldar and Space Marines from epic and scalped down the board to an equivalent 4x4 to play small games. I used cork board and green felt. This allowed to scenery (hills, woods etc) stick to the felt base as I based the with felt. It turned out it was perfect for a 40k board while traveling on a train as stuff didn't slip around and was small enough to pack up in a small box afterwards. The playing area was 48cm squared. Ranges were in cm rather than inches.
I really like this scale at first I thought you were doing epic size but was surprised how good this scale is 👍👍👍
I chose 25mm (1/72) scale for my gaming for this reason, and all terrain is modular.
I do have a 8'x4' board, however the legs fold and it can be stored against the wall out of the way when needed.
All my gaming mats are on a rolling closet rod hanger, custom made, on wheels, that can be easily moved out of the way.
All my models and terrain are on a shelf unit on wheels that can also be wheeled out of the way as needed.
Only down side is that everything is more or less hidden and I can't sit and oogle at everything.
Great ideas!
I love the secret game board too. It reminds me of Thunderbirds, when at the press of a button the furniture in the room turns upside down and inside out; from a comfy lounge to mission central - HQ ))
Very nice work! We did the same in my club, but we scaled them down to suit cm, instead of inches. So a space marine base is now 1 cm wide, instead of 1 inch.
Love it mate. Great little figures. I really like the compact size. You can have a game with not even 1 fifth of the fuss.
Great idea! I've just started printing epic models, but think I might need to move house soon and get rid of a lot of gaming stuff. Smaller scales will be my way forward too!
The picture frame board is a genius level move.
This sort of miniaturization is fantastic looking. It's just so cute and neat. Great work there!
I love the idea of printing out scaled down 40K/30K basically makes it a transportable board game
I love your job. I started GW games in 1993 with "space marines" 6mm scale (became "Epic" a few years later) and that was the spirit you describe.
I've got a 20mm 30k project In the making. Iove how much less space I need for terrain etc. At 20mm I can use standard 28mm and scale down without losing a ton of details (for most models).
i've been playing 10mm kings of war for years and for me it's not the expense, although that is significant and who doesn't want to save money when you can! no, it's the feel. there's something about the scope of playing with really small pieces that makes the whole endeavour feel really cinematic in a way normal 28mm doesn't. it's hard to explain but just about everyone i've ever played with at smaller scales notices the difference in feel to the games.
because it takes up so much less space it also allows for experimenting with interesting options- for example we sometimes play with more realistic missile weapon ranges. we usually extend the magic range out the same as missile weapons just for fun. you'd be amazed at what a difference having so much more room makes.
I used to be into the big games on big tables but these days I am preferring small games on small tables just like yourself. This is a good idea
That's an awesome and inspirational project guys.
I must admit, I'm pretty tempted by scaled down Warhammer at the moment.
Heck I'm still half tempted by Epic too. I've had a load of old Epic miniatures lying around and thought I could scratch both the itch for small scale and Horus Heresy at the same time.
Thanks for another fun video, carry on and take care ;)
Tiny Boardgaming becomes more and more appealing to me. I play Age of Fantasy Regiments with Warmaster Stripes and somehow due to the smaller regiment size, it feels a lot more epic. And yes, you can use smaller boards, less time to paint and assembly and field larger armies. Can't wait for my 3D printer, it is a follow-up model to yours, so I hope it will perform well with the 10mm scale.
I had a game once using epic armies and 40K rules. It was EPIC!
One of my favourite parts was whe an ork buggy took damage, went out of countrol, flew past a couple of marine squads, hit the front of a land raider and exploded. The land raider took no damage and just drove over the buggy wreckage :)
Took days to play it though...
This video is awesome and the end results are top notch. Great work.
I did the same thing with a spaceship game, I love playing games on a smaller table print.
Absolutely love it. Totally sold. Huge fan. I echo your comments to the letter and been unsure how to phrase it until I found your video.
So this video popped up in my feed this morning. And as someone who hasn't played Warhammer in 8+ years(specifically the lord of the rings side of Warhammer), this is an amazing way to get back into the franchise. Having them at 15mm, and having the game so portable is awesome! Now I need to find friends to play with 🤔 just subbed to your channel brotha !!
This is brilliant, and looks like great sizeable fun!
Love you and your partner's collaborations together! Great boards!
For me scaling down is not only great for playing larger games and armies with less space being taken but also if I can scale down and use this for dioramas which would be great so I can use 1/72-76 scale modeling kits with them.
Nice video. The board as hangable artwork is really clever.
Please do more modular small scale terrains and maybe show us some tips and tricks how to make them look really good (rivers and water features / small and tall hills maybe with cliff sides / beaches)...
This is great! I did the same thing with Bolt Action... except I bought 15mm minis, didn't print them. But it works great and so much more accessible.
I loved my days of Space Marine (epic) and still love this scale for just the very reasons you mentioned. I even turned on some friends into doing Flames of War with Microscale
I am very tempted to make a travel version of 30K/40K with the new Legions Imperialis models. You could have a 2'x1' board with a hinge, so that it folds up into a 1' square, and that would be to scale an 8' x 4' board. have it metal backed, mount all the Nu-Epic models onto magnets (or use a cork board and mount the models onto push pins), and you now have a very portable version of the game.
This is a grate idea. I'm not a war gammer BUT I do play a lot of TTRPGs and some of them are nice to play with minis etc (lancer) and yeah I think I'm going to give this a go for running games like lancer.
Any chance you can post the army lists? I know giving us a hint to the files is too much, but I would love to start by printing these 2 armies.
Love it! Would also love to see a modified ruleset. Not Epic necessarily, but a house rules version of 40k to speed things up and play a roughly 10k point game in a day or two. I guess apocalypse rules do that already? I'm not sure, haven't actually played it.
I must have missed your previous video so when you hung your gaming board up on the wall my mind was fu*king blown! That's a great idea! I've got loads of poster frames and doubling them as game boards would make playing so accessible. I need to find out how you incorporated the hook.
So cool to see someone else doing this too! I made Marines versus Orks and replayed Battle At The Farm but with a few additional units. I used One Page Rules and it was fast and fun. Also started printing off some downscaled 'Robot Legions' from OPR. Like you I used Tinkercad which is so easy to use. The whole setup is also really portable - army in a Lunchbox. Thanks for the video :-)
awesome! i thought about sizing down on minis and print out 2-4*15mm 1000k armys to do the same as you - playing warhammer but on a small table... love your content and ideas!
That is amazing, it looks great and it stows away conveniently. Pure genius.
My group still play the old epic scale lots you can get a much bigger feeling battle on a smaller table or we team up on a big table for full on Armageddon size battles.
How dare you bully Midwinter like this without inviting others to join in on it!
Way better than 28 / 30mm. You did it all so incredibly well - 10/10
This is really inspired me, once I get a 3D printer I'm definitely gonna do a similar setup.
I'm a big fan of this idea. Planning on doing it with warhammer fantasy at some point.
Best scale ever ;) you nailed it with the conclusion
This is a great idea. Play your game the way you want. Thank you for the content
im actually in the middle of making a massive urban coffee table board. its the minimum GW table size for 500 pts. but its covered in 3-5 story tall buildings in a tight urban layout, the two halfs end up being 1.5'x2' and are meant to sit on either side of my TV when im not playing as displays for my two armies. the whole idea is you can sit on the couch while you play.
it took almost a year to print all of the parts for just the buildings...
Imagine the amount of tiny killteams you could print/paint at that scale! TOTALLY agree with the convenience scale and being able to store it away easily :)
Brilliant. Love it. I've been working on a similar idea. And I love the picture frame board
This is absolutely brilliant. If I ever get into 40k it will be in this style. Thanks Luke for turning me onto this idea!
I'm looking at buying a printer to start this soon !
Been waiting for more small scale gaming!!!!!
Great video. I really like the idea of hidden table-top stuff in general, being able to put things way in and not having serval shelfs wort of stuff sitting in the way is great.
But having to do math every move or using a special ruler for moving is obnoxious. I crave for game that uses smaller scale but normal measurements. One people play.
This is an amazing idea. I love coffee table scale games and it makes me want to get a 3D printer, not sure my wife would approve haha. Also, loving the zoom functionality 🤣
Literally just bought a 3D printer for epic. Awsome vid man. Is it easy enuf to find the STLs. Scale makes more sense for 40k to me.
Absolutely amazing. This is 100% what we need in the hobby. I could actually get into 40k gaming if I could just slap together an army like this, throw it into an organizing case, and go game on someone's coffee table. I absolutely can't fathom why Warhammer hasn't formally supported something like this yet, it would generate a ton of business
Great work! A follow up battle report using this would be great! 😎