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Baron Ochs´ Low C (17 basses)

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  • Опубликовано: 10 июн 2022
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    00:00 - Emanuel List 1939
    00:19 - Ludwig Weber 1942
    00:41 - Emanuel List 1946
    01:05 - Emanuel List 1949
    01:28 - Ludwig Weber 1954
    01:48 - Kurt Böhme 1959
    02:03 - Otto Edelmann 1962
    02:22 - Manfred Jungwirth 1969
    02:38 - Theo Adam 1969
    02:55 - Walter Berry 1971
    03:18 - Jules Bastin 1977
    03:36 - Karl Ridderbusch 1978
    03:52 - Manfred Jungwirth 1979
    04:13 - Kurt Moll 1982
    04:32 - Kurt Moll 1984
    04:51 - Aage Haugland 1985
    05:08 - Theo Adam 1985
    05:24 - Kurt Rydl 1991
    05:41 - Kurt Moll 1994
    06:02 - Daniel Lewis Williams 2004
    06:22 - Kurt Rydl 2008
    06:41 - Franz Hawlata 2009
    07:00 - Wolfgang Bankl 2015
    07:20 - Peter Rose 2017
    07:38 - Günther Groissböck 2017

Комментарии • 80

  • @craigwalters
    @craigwalters 8 месяцев назад +21

    Walter Berry had an amazing low C, especially when you think about the fact that he was actually a bass-baritone

    • @kenzahora9167
      @kenzahora9167 7 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds effortless, like breathing.

  • @decoculaeselmariachi
    @decoculaeselmariachi Год назад +61

    nobody, and I mean NOBODY like Kurt Moll...ever...but I am very surprised by Berry!!!! bravoooooo!!!

    • @skakdosmer
      @skakdosmer Год назад +6

      Agreed! But I wonder, did Josef Greindl ever sign the part, and is there a recording?

    • @seancoxen3329
      @seancoxen3329 Год назад +4

      @@skakdosmer Yes. And Greindl's low C is good. Live recording, too. ruclips.net/video/l-uc0iW7_cE/видео.html Berry never hit low C on his several live recordings

    • @hugodraslik
      @hugodraslik  Год назад +5

      @@seancoxen3329 Thank you! I was looking for a recording by Greindl, too, but this one escaped my attention... His studio recording of "Da lieg ich" was all I found.
      In case anybody is interested, the phrase is at ca 48.05

    • @decoculaeselmariachi
      @decoculaeselmariachi 22 дня назад

      @@hugodraslikheard it, liked it :)

  • @Hanfgurkenhasser
    @Hanfgurkenhasser Год назад +29

    It's really ridiculous how Kurt Moll could overpower all other 16 basses without problem.
    Truly a centenary bass and a super low one at that. The fact that he could reach both the lowest registers and still manage to sing Es and Fs in the higher ranges is just a gift from the gods. That and insane amounts of work.
    Hats off to you, Kurt Moll. I miss you.

  • @igorgregoryvedeltomaszewsk1148
    @igorgregoryvedeltomaszewsk1148 2 месяца назад +3

    I heard my distant relative Aage Haugland on more occasions in the mid 80´s and remember him being able to expend his deep C for a longer stretch of time than here, actually walking away from the Feldmarschallin while still singing it. It was not a coal black sound like Moll´s but still resonant enough to reach down to the last rows of the auditorium.

  • @KendallKent
    @KendallKent 2 года назад +50

    Kurt Moll and Walter Berry by far the best!

    • @ralphoperaphile
      @ralphoperaphile 2 года назад +3

      Completely agree

    • @stuartpascoe1969
      @stuartpascoe1969 2 года назад +6

      Yes, absolutely right. Several of these guys should simply have gone up an octave. Berry’s range is amazing: he also sang Papageno, which could pretty much be sung by a tenor. Hermann Prey also had a lower register that put many basses to shame.

    • @seancoxen3329
      @seancoxen3329 Год назад +5

      The Berry recording, done in the studio, is not indicative of his actual abilities. I've heard him as Ochs in several live performances and he NEVER hit the low C and at times struggled with the D's and E's.

    • @KendallKent
      @KendallKent Год назад +1

      @@seancoxen3329 wow

    • @decoculaeselmariachi
      @decoculaeselmariachi Год назад +4

      @@seancoxen3329 that seems more likely…he is a bass baritone and not a low bass..well, good for him that he recorded this low C! It is for the ages! :):) nobody like Moll…there are live recordings here on youtube…from Vienna and from the Met…amazing…

  • @ChristophSchwarz1
    @ChristophSchwarz1 3 месяца назад +2

    Ich bin so stolz auf mein Autogramm von Kurt Moll in meiner Parsifal Partitur. Sein Gurnemanz ist legendär.

  • @talvela100
    @talvela100 Год назад +29

    Kurt Moll insuperabile!

  • @bencopeland3560
    @bencopeland3560 8 месяцев назад +7

    Walter Berry is the biggest surprise in this.

  • @grunaubaby
    @grunaubaby Год назад +8

    Kurt Moll und Walter Berry sind meine Favoriten.

  • @davidgroth26
    @davidgroth26 Год назад +6

    Walter Berry very surprising, and beautiful, Kurt Rydl not surprising and the amazing Herr Moll. So many beautiful, world class voices.

  • @miragliottadamien6901
    @miragliottadamien6901 Год назад +18

    Kur Moll by far the best (another galaxy)

  • @giorgioleoni3471
    @giorgioleoni3471 Месяц назад

    Hearing Berry is even more impressive to me, as I heard him the first time as a Rossini's Don Magnifico

  • @bmwinther8971
    @bmwinther8971 Год назад +12

    Kurt Moll rules and Walter Berry is also very good.

  • @figaro410
    @figaro410 Год назад +9

    Kurt Moll was king, not surprised in the slightest.

  • @balthazarenghien9851
    @balthazarenghien9851 7 месяцев назад +2

    Kurt Moll, legendär und unübertrefflich 🎉🎉🎉

  • @shantanu.t
    @shantanu.t 8 месяцев назад +3

    What a great compilation 👌🥂 Thanks for the research and hard work of stringing it together!

  • @ariasemusicaslegendadas7657
    @ariasemusicaslegendadas7657 Год назад +16

    Kurt moll the best❤

  • @LardoDiColonnata
    @LardoDiColonnata Год назад +4

    Il ruolo del barone Ochs è sempre stato un grande cavallo di Kurt Moll, che domina incontrastato. Ottimo anche Walter Berry.

  • @gamedevbrownbus2871
    @gamedevbrownbus2871 Год назад +16

    At 1:58 the way Kurt Bohme sang that C2, it sounded very much like subharmonic technique (I am about 90% sure it was). Never heard it used in an operatic context, and it was really surprising, and the way he made it match his timbre is pretty amazing in it's own right.

    • @sum41foreverown
      @sum41foreverown Год назад +8

      It's very pressed, not subharmonics. There's technically no lower limitation on the chest voice, if you define it as periodic movements of the entire vocal folds. However: when singing, you can apply a modified valsalva manuever, to extend the low range by increasing the closed quotient, leading to presed phonation where the folds have an extended period where they're closed, lengthening the period time and lowering the pitch. This doesn't sound good, and cant exactly be called healthy, starting to resemble fry or in texture. In a spectrograph, you'll see that the fundamental tone (lowest frequency) is comparatively weak in relation to the overtones, with a lot of sound energy in a very high range that's unordered ( not neat peaks and valleys)

    • @achmedmohamed4708
      @achmedmohamed4708 8 месяцев назад +2

      gamedevbrownbus2871
      Kurt Böhme was a "higher" bass.
      He was not "black".
      I know him since more than 60 years.

    • @glorytoukraine5524
      @glorytoukraine5524 2 месяца назад

      Ugh, stfu about subharmonics already

    • @christophkassir1559
      @christophkassir1559 2 месяца назад

      Same thoughts here, right off the bat!

    • @igorgregoryvedeltomaszewsk1148
      @igorgregoryvedeltomaszewsk1148 2 месяца назад

      Thank you for a thorougt technical answer@@sum41foreverown

  • @Abracadabra208
    @Abracadabra208 8 месяцев назад +5

    I'm surprised that Walter Berry is listed online as "only" a bass-baritone. That low C of his was powerful, rivalling who I consider the dominant heavyweight in this list of singers (Kurt Moll). Anyone who can sing C2 with that much power is a basso profundo in my book. By that same token, some of the low Cs are utter jokes, such as Manfred Jungwirth's or Günther Groissböck's attempts.

    • @falkfink
      @falkfink 5 месяцев назад +1

      I disagree that good low notes make you a bass. For example my teacher has a better C2 than some of the singers in this video, but listening to him he is obviously a relatively high baritone.

    • @Abracadabra208
      @Abracadabra208 5 месяцев назад

      @@falkfink Do you then consider timbre and weight to matter as much as, or more than, the ability to hit the note, or even hit it loudly?

  • @JairFerreira1947
    @JairFerreira1947 Год назад +7

    Kurt Moll and Walter berry were the best.

  • @illyaismaili6413
    @illyaismaili6413 Год назад +5

    Moll and weber

  • @lucagalliano8460
    @lucagalliano8460 2 месяца назад +1

    Kurt Moll❤

  • @brianweeks87
    @brianweeks87 Год назад +4

    Some of these earlier guys really had to push out the C2, barely made it...

  • @JillyCookeMusic
    @JillyCookeMusic 5 месяцев назад +1

    Petition for Morris Robinson to plays Ochs!

  • @BaroneVitellioScarpia1
    @BaroneVitellioScarpia1 Год назад +18

    Ludwig Weber is the best.

  • @alexanderkutaladze5334
    @alexanderkutaladze5334 3 месяца назад +1

    Kurt Moll the best!

  • @marokt
    @marokt Год назад +6

    List, Weber and Moll are out of race.

  • @gerlindemayer9645
    @gerlindemayer9645 Год назад +4

    Moll ist einer der besten, Weber gefällt mir auch sehr. Der letzte in dieser Auflistung eher schwach.
    Moll war halt DAS große C 🤣, hab ich schon live gehört, da bleibt einem der Kiefer hängen

  • @andrewmargrave7518
    @andrewmargrave7518 5 месяцев назад

    Most of them couldn't cut it down there. But List, Weber, and Moll did. Surprisingly, Berry did well with the low C even though his voice was more baritone than bass.

  • @clefnoteproductions6695
    @clefnoteproductions6695 9 месяцев назад +3

    Walter Berry and Kurt Moll. The others are either barely audible, incorrect pitch or groveling. Its would be wonderful to hear Russian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Hungarian and Armenian basses or perhaps an Italian or two

  • @musettamarcello
    @musettamarcello 7 месяцев назад +1

    Современные басы звучат как баритоны

  • @bassoprof
    @bassoprof 8 месяцев назад +1

    Kurt Moll...Such difference...

  • @polikun2884
    @polikun2884 Год назад +8

    Günther Groissböck wtf is that lmao

  • @yuujoupop
    @yuujoupop 9 месяцев назад

    You really can’t judge anything on recordings. Many amazing talents here for sure though.

  • @jairferreirabaritono6747
    @jairferreirabaritono6747 5 месяцев назад +1

    Kurt Moll is the best. I think that Walter Berry is the second one. Kurt Moll é o melhor. Creio que Walter Berry está em segundo lugar.

  • @MrBayerngrieche
    @MrBayerngrieche 10 месяцев назад

    Theo Adam war im 2. Anlauf auch nicht schlecht und besser als beim 1. Anlauf.☺️

  • @marksmith3947
    @marksmith3947 8 месяцев назад +2

    Last one is quite bad

  • @achmedmohamed4708
    @achmedmohamed4708 8 месяцев назад

    Das C im Rosenkavalier ist "verschenkt".
    Anders ist das, wenn es eingebaut wird, hier z.B.
    ruclips.net/video/RPxU6HFWV98/видео.html

  • @williammorris584
    @williammorris584 15 дней назад

    No Gottlob Frick?

    • @hugodraslik
      @hugodraslik  14 дней назад

      You know of any available recording of Frick singing Ochs?

    • @williammorris584
      @williammorris584 14 дней назад

      @@hugodraslik point taken, sir.

  • @boristemkin
    @boristemkin Год назад +1

    There is Neidlinger?

  • @ff34jmr
    @ff34jmr 2 месяца назад

    Moll, Berry and Weber. The last one is a joke

  • @kronkepus3671
    @kronkepus3671 7 месяцев назад +2

    theo adam was absolutely pathetic 🤣

  • @karlsonkab51
    @karlsonkab51 Год назад +1

    EDuard Wollitz would have done it well

  • @kepipesiom
    @kepipesiom Год назад

    Missing: Gottlob Frick; Matti Salminen; Jerome Hines.

    • @andrewmargrave7518
      @andrewmargrave7518 5 месяцев назад

      Hines by his own admission did not have a low C.

    • @benjamin91025
      @benjamin91025 5 месяцев назад +2

      Gottlob Frick never sang this role!
      What a pity

    • @emmanueldubus1199
      @emmanueldubus1199 3 месяца назад

      @@benjamin91025 yes Frick always refused to sing Ochs.

  • @tarasshtonda7875
    @tarasshtonda7875 Год назад +2

    War es so kompliziert einfach zu schreiben- wer wann singt?!!!

    • @hugodraslik
      @hugodraslik  Год назад +4

      It is there. Just open the "description" (below the play button -> title of the video -> name of the channel -> number of views, date of upload -> there it is.)

    • @paulotosi6091
      @paulotosi6091 8 месяцев назад

      Groisbock é uma piada.