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Baron Ochs´ Low C (17 basses)
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00:00 - Emanuel List 1939
00:19 - Ludwig Weber 1942
00:41 - Emanuel List 1946
01:05 - Emanuel List 1949
01:28 - Ludwig Weber 1954
01:48 - Kurt Böhme 1959
02:03 - Otto Edelmann 1962
02:22 - Manfred Jungwirth 1969
02:38 - Theo Adam 1969
02:55 - Walter Berry 1971
03:18 - Jules Bastin 1977
03:36 - Karl Ridderbusch 1978
03:52 - Manfred Jungwirth 1979
04:13 - Kurt Moll 1982
04:32 - Kurt Moll 1984
04:51 - Aage Haugland 1985
05:08 - Theo Adam 1985
05:24 - Kurt Rydl 1991
05:41 - Kurt Moll 1994
06:02 - Daniel Lewis Williams 2004
06:22 - Kurt Rydl 2008
06:41 - Franz Hawlata 2009
07:00 - Wolfgang Bankl 2015
07:20 - Peter Rose 2017
07:38 - Günther Groissböck 2017
00:00 - Emanuel List 1939
00:19 - Ludwig Weber 1942
00:41 - Emanuel List 1946
01:05 - Emanuel List 1949
01:28 - Ludwig Weber 1954
01:48 - Kurt Böhme 1959
02:03 - Otto Edelmann 1962
02:22 - Manfred Jungwirth 1969
02:38 - Theo Adam 1969
02:55 - Walter Berry 1971
03:18 - Jules Bastin 1977
03:36 - Karl Ridderbusch 1978
03:52 - Manfred Jungwirth 1979
04:13 - Kurt Moll 1982
04:32 - Kurt Moll 1984
04:51 - Aage Haugland 1985
05:08 - Theo Adam 1985
05:24 - Kurt Rydl 1991
05:41 - Kurt Moll 1994
06:02 - Daniel Lewis Williams 2004
06:22 - Kurt Rydl 2008
06:41 - Franz Hawlata 2009
07:00 - Wolfgang Bankl 2015
07:20 - Peter Rose 2017
07:38 - Günther Groissböck 2017
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Bass Cage Match: Baron Ochs´ Low D
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Der Rosenkavalier, Act II. Baron Ochs is one of the lowest bass roles in opera at all. He sings some very low-pitched notes (including a C2). There is a growly D2 (low D) from his aria "Da lieg ich". 1. Mihály Székely 2. Manfred Jungwirth 3. Kurt Moll 4. Manfred Hemm
Euer Gnaden haben heut durch unversiegte Huld mich tiefst beschämt.
No Gottlob Frick?
You know of any available recording of Frick singing Ochs?
@@hugodraslik point taken, sir.
Hearing Berry is even more impressive to me, as I heard him the first time as a Rossini's Don Magnifico
Moll, Berry and Weber. The last one is a joke
Kurt Moll❤
I heard my distant relative Aage Haugland on more occasions in the mid 80´s and remember him being able to expend his deep C for a longer stretch of time than here, actually walking away from the Feldmarschallin while still singing it. It was not a coal black sound like Moll´s but still resonant enough to reach down to the last rows of the auditorium.
Kurt Moll the best!
Moll
Ich bin so stolz auf mein Autogramm von Kurt Moll in meiner Parsifal Partitur. Sein Gurnemanz ist legendär.
It would be good to indicate live / studio in the description. So that people stop believing in the "Walter Berry miracle" : a note presumably tampered with by CBS sound engineers, heavily amplified, with resonances added, and perhaps even recorded one early morning separately from everything else. Or add excerpts of the "real" Walter Berry on stage: he always sang the variant an octave higher. 1968: ruclips.net/video/_4tle4J-uOc/видео.htmlfeature=shared&t=2801 1969: ruclips.net/video/JS6nizFuE1g/видео.htmlfeature=shared&t=2630 1971: ruclips.net/video/uLZ3MRXTTnw/видео.htmlfeature=shared&t=2854 1978: ruclips.net/video/o8A-1jHGXNE/видео.htmlsi=1ohZHTPpQJAd014e&t=2605 (This in no way diminishes Berry's immense qualities in general)
Petition for Morris Robinson to plays Ochs!
Kurt Moll is the best. I think that Walter Berry is the second one. Kurt Moll é o melhor. Creio que Walter Berry está em segundo lugar.
Most of them couldn't cut it down there. But List, Weber, and Moll did. Surprisingly, Berry did well with the low C even though his voice was more baritone than bass.
Kurt Moll, legendär und unübertrefflich 🎉🎉🎉
theo adam was absolutely pathetic 🤣
Современные басы звучат как баритоны
What a great compilation 👌🥂 Thanks for the research and hard work of stringing it together!
I'm surprised that Walter Berry is listed online as "only" a bass-baritone. That low C of his was powerful, rivalling who I consider the dominant heavyweight in this list of singers (Kurt Moll). Anyone who can sing C2 with that much power is a basso profundo in my book. By that same token, some of the low Cs are utter jokes, such as Manfred Jungwirth's or Günther Groissböck's attempts.
I disagree that good low notes make you a bass. For example my teacher has a better C2 than some of the singers in this video, but listening to him he is obviously a relatively high baritone.
@@falkfink Do you then consider timbre and weight to matter as much as, or more than, the ability to hit the note, or even hit it loudly?
Walter Berry had an amazing low C, especially when you think about the fact that he was actually a bass-baritone
Sounds effortless, like breathing.
Walter Berry is the biggest surprise in this.
Last one is quite bad
Kurt Moll...Such difference...
Das C im Rosenkavalier ist "verschenkt". Anders ist das, wenn es eingebaut wird, hier z.B. ruclips.net/video/RPxU6HFWV98/видео.html
You really can’t judge anything on recordings. Many amazing talents here for sure though.
Walter Berry and Kurt Moll. The others are either barely audible, incorrect pitch or groveling. Its would be wonderful to hear Russian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Hungarian and Armenian basses or perhaps an Italian or two
Theo Adam war im 2. Anlauf auch nicht schlecht und besser als beim 1. Anlauf.☺️
Missing: Gottlob Frick; Matti Salminen; Jerome Hines.
Hines by his own admission did not have a low C.
Gottlob Frick never sang this role! What a pity
@@benjamin91025 yes Frick always refused to sing Ochs.
Il ruolo del barone Ochs è sempre stato un grande cavallo di Kurt Moll, che domina incontrastato. Ottimo anche Walter Berry.
It's really ridiculous how Kurt Moll could overpower all other 16 basses without problem. Truly a centenary bass and a super low one at that. The fact that he could reach both the lowest registers and still manage to sing Es and Fs in the higher ranges is just a gift from the gods. That and insane amounts of work. Hats off to you, Kurt Moll. I miss you.
Some of these earlier guys really had to push out the C2, barely made it...
Moll and weber
Kurt Moll und Walter Berry sind meine Favoriten.
Kurt Moll was king, not surprised in the slightest.
There is Neidlinger?
ruclips.net/video/I_wbx5qFQbI/видео.html
Sotin is also very good! Why not mentioned to the list, if I may ask?!
Kurt Moll rules and Walter Berry is also very good.
At 1:58 the way Kurt Bohme sang that C2, it sounded very much like subharmonic technique (I am about 90% sure it was). Never heard it used in an operatic context, and it was really surprising, and the way he made it match his timbre is pretty amazing in it's own right.
It's very pressed, not subharmonics. There's technically no lower limitation on the chest voice, if you define it as periodic movements of the entire vocal folds. However: when singing, you can apply a modified valsalva manuever, to extend the low range by increasing the closed quotient, leading to presed phonation where the folds have an extended period where they're closed, lengthening the period time and lowering the pitch. This doesn't sound good, and cant exactly be called healthy, starting to resemble fry or in texture. In a spectrograph, you'll see that the fundamental tone (lowest frequency) is comparatively weak in relation to the overtones, with a lot of sound energy in a very high range that's unordered ( not neat peaks and valleys)
gamedevbrownbus2871 Kurt Böhme was a "higher" bass. He was not "black". I know him since more than 60 years.
Ugh, stfu about subharmonics already
Same thoughts here, right off the bat!
Thank you for a thorougt technical answer@@sum41foreverown
Kurt Moll and Walter berry were the best.
Walter Berry very surprising, and beautiful, Kurt Rydl not surprising and the amazing Herr Moll. So many beautiful, world class voices.
EDuard Wollitz would have done it well
List, Weber and Moll are out of race.
Moll ist einer der besten, Weber gefällt mir auch sehr. Der letzte in dieser Auflistung eher schwach. Moll war halt DAS große C 🤣, hab ich schon live gehört, da bleibt einem der Kiefer hängen
Günther Groissböck wtf is that lmao
My favorite, and hilarious comedy by GG
what is lmao?
I agree! WTF!
@@baritono1974 Laughing my Ass off.
Kurt moll the best❤
Székely, ftw! Moll sounds like a basement toilet.
War es so kompliziert einfach zu schreiben- wer wann singt?!!!
It is there. Just open the "description" (below the play button -> title of the video -> name of the channel -> number of views, date of upload -> there it is.)
Groisbock é uma piada.
Kurt Moll insuperabile!
Ludwig Weber is the best.
He really is!
@@benjaminwashington2087 I would love to hear Karl Perron’s low C too, this role was written for him.
nobody, and I mean NOBODY like Kurt Moll...ever...but I am very surprised by Berry!!!! bravoooooo!!!
Agreed! But I wonder, did Josef Greindl ever sign the part, and is there a recording?
@@skakdosmer Yes. And Greindl's low C is good. Live recording, too. ruclips.net/video/l-uc0iW7_cE/видео.html Berry never hit low C on his several live recordings
@@seancoxen3329 Thank you! I was looking for a recording by Greindl, too, but this one escaped my attention... His studio recording of "Da lieg ich" was all I found. In case anybody is interested, the phrase is at ca 48.05
@@hugodraslikheard it, liked it :)
Kur Moll by far the best (another galaxy)