Made in the USA does not mean they are better than other products made outside the states, just look at the American auto industry! some of the worst vehicles on the market are American Made so why should parts be any better.
Are you suggesting that all aftermarket filters are considered cheap? Because shops run aftermarket filters because it would be a nightmare sourcing, ordering, stocking OEM filters. Sure this is great advice for the DIY'er but I can guarantee (just about) you every non dealer shop in the USA is not carrying OEM filters across the board on hand. From what I've seen most places offer upgraded filters for more money versus the standard ones. Also hyundai/kia/ and some GM OEM filters are made in korea. Where it's made is less important, how it's made and how ethical the companies involved IS important.
Just because it's OEM doesn't make it better. OEM's cheap out on filters too - the AC Delco filter for my 5.7 uses a plastic center tube, paper end caps and a nitrile ADB, while higher quality ones are metal and silicone. Hard to find a good filter these days.
Nearly every ACdelco canister filter I replace is deformed, also half of the canister filters I replace do not come with a new gasket for the housing which is just penny pinching on a new level.
@@jamesg7022There's no such thing as an O-Ring that lasts forever. At the GMC dealership I used to work at had uses AC Delco. Every couple cars I'd get a OE O-Ring that is flattened out and leaks.
@@itsreaper1644 15 years at gm only had the black and orange ones leak. (aftermarket). The OEM green ones never leaked. That was the 2.2 2.4 2.0 ecotec's. 1.4 and 1.6 has a black gasket that comes with the delco filter
I see it every day on my BMWs! The Chinese and Korean filters barely look like they filter anything! They have o-rings that fall apart! Two issues: 1: the outer o-ring leaks and saturates the belts and hoses! Failure of the belt can cause some major damage! 2: the inner o-ring deteriorates and lets full blown garbage go straight to your Vanos solenoids! And if you go to far on that, more fun surprises happen!
Honda OEM filters are now made by Honeywell which makes FRAM, cut one open and look, they’re made with paper end caps, they’re complete garbage and it’s an OEM filter .WIX still uses metal end caps which is as close to the old-school Japanese made one that Honda used to offer for their filters
Not to mention the vvt issues they can cause on certain vehicles. There are tsbs out there on this subject. I had jeeps come in with vvt + correlation codes. Printed the tsb, sales guy says, that's it just a filter? I say no, oem filter, that's it. Slap it in, and it's good to go, no more running like crap, and codes are gone for good.
I didn't know oil filters can cause VVT codes in Jeeps. Is this for the 5.7 Hemi? I put an STP XL 10,000 mile oil filter for my mom's Hemi Jeep, and it hasn't had issues for 5000 miles so far. Oil used is Royal Purple API SN 5w-20.
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics 2013. I'll defintely be getting Mopar filters if there is a TSB. I got the STP XL because they have a silicone ADBV and o-ring, and have even pleating.
The OEM filter people crack me up. You know the OE puts out a bid and cheapest wins right lol. So whoever is the cheapest and meets the OE specs getting the contract. I use wix on all my vehicles and never saw a issue to do with a oil filter.
I guess you will put that in writing, so customer buys vehicle and runs your aftermarket xyz (they deny your WARRANTY). AS they should, I would to put it as some aftermarket filter (DENIED).... Good luck.
I use Motorcraft FL1A on my older vehicle which I believe is made by Purolator and known to be a pretty good filter, My newer rig has been getting Napa Gold (Wix). Can you cite the studies where Wix didn’t filter that well? Not disagreeing with you, but I was under the impression they’re a good filter. Who’s the actual manufacturer of Mopar filters? I’ll switch to those if they’re better...
Bosch Premiums are the best filters I've found for the price. They are about $6 on Amazon, and go on sale for as little as $3. Made in USA, very good quality.
I recently did a service on a komatsu WA500 which has 2 engine oil filters. The cheap ones barely fit and take several attempts to get the threads started. Also on some of our older DT466 Internationals, the cheap spin-on fuel filters they buy don't even cover the whole housing, causing them to rust and get seized in place. I'm in municipal fleet maintenance and your views of fleet shops are 100% correct 😂
Premium Guard produced oil filters are the same way. Whenever a Ford 2.0 comes in the shop I struggle to get the STP filter started but the Mobil 1’s go right on.
Ok I have a 1989 D21 that I bought on the first time buyers program back in 89. That being said I change the oil every 2500-3000 miles. The oil is always a major brand and the filters were not factory but not bottom end other. I have 190K and only have to do the maintenance items. It has been super. I plan on replacing the timing chain and oil pump this summer.
I use the ACDelco on my vehicles if they're in stock. Otherwise it's a Fram or Carquest Blue (by WIX). Never had a problem with any of my vehicles. Of course, I change my oil on time every time.
On a stock vehicle used to get back and forth from work and provided you're getting your oil changed regularly an OEM filter is going to do you just fine for the life of the vehicle. If OEM filters were total junk then car manufacturers wouldn't be using them.
Agreed! My 2015 Kawasaki zx6r was brand new when i got it and ive used the oe filter many times. Decided to experiment with other brands like k&n and i noticed more engine noise with them....idunno why, all i can think is maybe oil restriction or pressure being an issue. So i went back to the oe filter and no more engine noise....ive changed the oil diligently with synthetic oil early every time
For me on my personal vehicles it depends on which car it is. My Cadillac I run Napa Gold mainly because I don't have leak issues, l even had leaks on OEM filter. The Kia I have the best luck with OEM filters. My tractors Napa Gold filters work excellent( nearest John deere parts dealer 50 miles away) and the work truck I do use a cheap filter. It's a 97 Ford with 300,000 miles on it, its pretty much shot, and it does use oil. I can't justify putting much money into the truck simply its worn out and not really dependable. Its mainly stays on the farm.
no oil filter uses cardboard. it's more like a fiber/fabric. it does the exact same thing as metal end caps. what exactly makes metal superior? fram uses fiber ends and they state that the fabric holds on to the glue and seals much better than metal.
Honda… made in the USA… by FRAM. This filter uses the least expensive internals and filter media and dresses up a little with a silicone ADBV, blue paint and the Honda logo. Not superior to Wix or any of the aftermarket filters you’re bashing.
When I hear ‘cheap oil filter’ I immediately think Fram. A lot of OE’s are using Fram’s garbage. I’ll definitely take your advice and check out info on Wix because that’s usually what I run. Been thinking about buying bulk from Baldwin. Huge Baldwin fan. They work great on 14 liter diesels for over 15k miles, should probably work fine on one of my little beaters.
i fixed a low oil pressure issue on a suburban once just by changing the oil filter lol. came in for low oil pressure message on the cluster. as soon as you started it pressure would drop from 45ish to 0 at idle. lead tech did oil pressure sensor, sensor screen and d.o.d. manifold before he gave up on it. they hand me the ticket and i said lets do an oil change before we tear out the oil pump. changed the oil, started it up and pressure went back to spec. not all oil filters are built the same boys.
IDK about this. My silverado with 283k miles uses a wix xp filter. My 674 HP big block Chevy in my car uses a wix standard filter. If it's good enough for almost a 700 HP 15,000 dollar engine it's good enough for your truck.
Fyi with that honda filter if its a A02 filter its made by Fram.... ya fram throw it in the trash. The A01 was a very good filter i used them in my 1000hp 4 cylinder drag honda and had no issues however these new filters are absolute garbage and they are replacing the A01 with the A02. Hate to disagree with you but with honda and duramax diesels napa gold wix is the best option in my experiance, i speak from dyno/track/ and engine shop testing. My team and myself subject my car to race fuel and very high rpm 10300rpm and power and have had no lubrication issues with napa gold ill run nothing else. If you have ever run race fuel in a drag engine youll how how hard the richer mixture is on the lubricarion system especially ethanal. I would look into a few more studies. Big fan of the show keep it up man.
What you are talking about, and what he is talking about are two totally different worlds. You dont run that filter in your car for 5000-10000 miles like they go in a normal car. I am sure they work great out of the box, but the normal, everyday car has to worry about them filtering and lasting for 6months /5k miles or more.
Kurt Kennedy like i said i put then in a lot of diesel applications that see 8000 hard miles towing and have no issues, wix is one of the best filters on the market plenty of studies and tests agree with me.
Yes you are correct about the Honda's A02 oil filters being manufactured by FRAM. But as of 2019, Honda has terminated their contract with FRAM for making their oil filters. Because Honda found out that you can still tamper with the oil filter after it's been wrapped and sealed with plastic after being manufactured by FRAM. Honda has a new supplier now. They are Mahle Tennex Corp and it's not FRAM anymore and these new filters are made either in Japan or USA. The new part number is 15400-RTA-003.
I was watching diesel tech Ron video on Ford 6.0 filters and bought the $25 kit on eBay with 3 oil and fuel filter. I also bought the motorcraft kit with air, fuel and oil filter for $119 from a ford dealer with an eBay store. The fuel filter on the bottom was a 1/4 inch taller than the ford and would not let the cap tightened all the way down. The oil filter was taller also and didn’t fit. I want to make videos at some point so I considered it cheap research. Imagine the DYI guy who only buys the knockoff and keeps cranking away on the cap.
Usually I try and use Mahle, WIX or Mann for out of warranty, within warranty only genuine filters (even though OE equivalent are deemed ok according to block exemption here in the UK). But seen some poor genuine filters, sometimes even the top aftermarket brands look poorly made. It's becoming a minefield.
Good video budn It's like on my BMW the O.E filters are made by Mahle, so you can buy Mahle from local Autopart suppliers and they're cheaper. Same product different box.
I hear oem filters are certified by the carmaker to maintain proper oil pressure & filtering. I do not know about all carmakers, but at least for subarus which I own, oil analysis tests by owners have shown wix gold to filter better than the Fram made subaru oem, but still maintain proper oil pressure. The older japan made subaru filters were the best, but cost more. A couple years back, dealerships switched to fram made subaru filters, which from what I am told are decent, but not as good. But, please don't take my word for it, u have research these things and decide on ur own...
As a shop owner I would love to stock OEM filters for all vehicles but it would be very hard to do so. Do you guy's stock filters at your shop, if so are they all OEM? I have over 20 different filters on the shelf right now.
I've been wrenching for 20+ years, and I swear by Wix oil filters, top quality for sure. I only use Mobil 1 oil. OEM oil filters aren't all that special. Honda is good, but those AC Delco filters are made by Fram (yuck), and Ford's Motorcraft filters are made by Purolator just with a fancy paint job. Can't go wrong with Wix, just sayin.
Honda AO2’s are Fram, AC Delcos are Champion Labs, and the Motorcrafts are built with the top combo bypass valve and silicone ADBV to prevent timing chain rattle unlike the Purolator reds.
@@warrenself ok, i gotta ask. What sales pamphlet did you get that "prevents timing chain rattle" thing from? Worn chain guides cause chains to rattle.
@@randomgamer-st1ie Sales pamphlet? It’s called real world experience. Customer comes in - I change the oil and use the cheap quick lube filter - and the 5.4 rattles for a couple seconds like the chains are going to jump out of the front cover. Common solution is to go under there and spin off the China filter and install an FL820S. Not my truck, not my business though. Customer paid for what he paid and didn’t mind the noise. The Fram on my 4.6 did the same thing once but I checked the oil and was just low by about a quart and hadn’t driven the truck in a few days.
We have a shop around here that uses the amazon filters because they are cheap and he sells them at nspa gold prices ive pulled them apart and like fram they have a one time use bypass valve, something that sucks in the arctic where a start up on tbick oil can ruin your bypass valve spring just my opinion we dont have dealerships in bush ak so we work with what we can get which is napa or mail order
The Honda oil filters for most of there cars are the same as Fram if you are using the A02 filters. if you use the A01 filters they are much better made. You can cut them apart and compare. However i can’t speak on the other filters.
Because the OEM doesn't built oil filters . They get a third party to paint them a certain color and slap a label on them . OEM engineers had nothing to do with designing the filter . They just picked one out of a catalog that will do the job at the lowest price point . OEM always leaves room for improvement
I used to use Fram filters until I bought a filter cutter. I was horrified at the cheap construction of the filter! The basic Purolator filter is way better construction and media than the Fram. I now use top level Purolator after cutting open numerous brands.
I dont understand it either. Our oil changes are not cheap, They are priced correctly, for the quality parts we use. EVERY SINGLE synthetic oil change we do, gets a OE / OEM filter. No questions about it. A lot of the time, a Toyota, Honda, motorcraft filter is cheaper than Carquest premium, wix gold etc. so why in the hell would you use anything besides the OEM at that point?! Being a shop owner for two years, there is A lot of stuff I see out there from other shops that really just makes me shake my head.
??? You think OEM is the superior filter ? Most retail filters have models that kick the crap out of any OEM.. which are all just contracted out filters anyway made by some other company.
I would really be interested to see the test saying wix filters do not flow well, I’ve been in the parts business for 20 years now and have never heard that from anyone.
The standard Wix filters around 99% efficiency at 30 microns and the XP is around 50% at 20. The latter being poor compared to OEM and the former being basically the same but more expensive.
Wait , hold up. The last time I remember doing an oil change on a Hyundai, I used OEM oil filter. On the box and the filter itself says “Made In Korea”. 🤔🤔🤔
You are too proud of US products huh? Look at your Ford , GM, chevy, Jeep, all crap just after few miles. Now look at Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Mazda, etc..barely need fixing after hundreds of miles.. Lots of US automotive brands are built with bad quality.. What makes you think US made oil filters are any different?
The price difference between a good filter and a low quality filter is less than a coffee at Starbucks. In my many years working in the field, I have never once seen a Fram filter on a commercial engine. Most are Baldwin, Wix and Fleetguard. (Baldwin being the most popular) Aftermarket filters are not less expensive than factory filters like they use to be.
Good topic Mike, something I never usually thought about really, but I've always grabbed Mobile 1 filter with the oil since I assumed that it would coincide with one another in terms of quality? But, there is no doubt about it, oil and filter quality is something basic, but seems like it tends to be a little neglected by many. I agree, it's really important considering how much it affects the most important components in the vehicle!
I used to do that too until I found out that mobile 1 filters did not meet the pressure rating for my particular application (subaru turbo) so I switch to wix, which was rated better then even OEM. I had to research on my own for my particular application. I made my decision based on what MANY others found out when they did oil analysis on their dirty oil.
I like what you said about wix, napa gold etc cost might not justify it when you can get a compatible filter for less. I like Purolator as they are priced right and decent quality, and best of all never had a problem with one for over 30 years.
I could never figure out why somebody would spent $50k+ for a vehicle and ask me to install a Protech or a basic Fram filter.... I've installed only good quality aftermarket or OEM filters, whether it be oil, gas, or air. In a vehicle that uses light oil, i.e., 0w-20 or 0w-15, always a filter designed to work with synethic oil such as Mobil 1, K&N Gold, Fram Ultra, etc. Never had a problem when changing oil with the right filter for the right type of oil.
The Honda OEM in the thumbnail *is* a basic Fram filter... Even within different versions of the same OEM filter you can find different build quality (at one point there were Purflux, Mahle, Filtech/Tokyo Roki and Fram versions of the Honda OEM oil filter) or even within the same corporation you can find different build quality (some Frams are rebadged Purflux filters, some Purflux filters are rebadged Fram filters; some Purolator are rebadged Mann + Hummel, some Mann + Hummel are rebadged Purolator and so on, now Wix is part of Mann + Hummel too), but as long as you stick with a reputable brand (including Champ Labs, Gonher etc) it should be totally fine.
I know your truck calls for a pf48 and you probably change your oil frequently... But I have fixed a quite of few trucks with the low oil pressure problem p0521 code with a PF63 its the longer version of the 48. They seem to add around 10psi to the top end.
That’s a Honda filter he is holding. If the numbers end in A02 there crap and made by Fram. The other was A01 and made by Filtech. You can Google that information. I stick with Mobil One filters for my Honda Ridgeline and JEEP GC. There $10.00 at Walmart.
Wix makes the microgard filters for oreilly and they even say don't run synthetic with the basic microgard filter and that it is a 3k mile filter. Wix regular (napa gold) is the minimum for synthetic and they recommend their quite expensive Wix xp filter for full synthetic and long service intervals.
Not sure about other car manufacturers, but when I worked for a general motors dealer. At least once or twice a month we would get customers who just had oil changed at Walmart in last day or two. Engine would have a tick. Take off from oil filter and put ac delco filter on noise would be gone. Saw this on cars and trucks didn't seem to make difference in engine. I never got too scientific on it just cut filters open and fram seemed to have less material in it.
This all sounds great but you have no idea who is making your oem filter year-to-year. This work goes out on bid, they can change year-to-year. No car manufacturer manufacturers their own filters.
That Delco filter you are holding is the exact same filter as supertech, made in the same factory. The difference is the box and the part number. Just an FYI.
A question about oil changes. Why does everyone change the oil at 3,000 miles. Every new vehicle I have purchased the manual recommended every 7,500 miles. I thought modern oils are better? So , why change it more often if that is not what is recommended. I get the sales thing but, I have never had a problem at 7,500 miles. Just make sure you top it off when needed.
Because most people drive in severe conditions. 7,500 miles is for people who mostly drive mostly extended highway miles with no heavy traffic. City/metro driving degrade oil faster more than highway driving.
@@lynnh7694 synthetic oil still degrade faster if you drive mostly in the city which consider servere driving conditions. 7,500 is fine if you do a lot of extended highway driving.
Im heavy equipment we use baldwin filters instead of OE and they work really well for the most part and are still waay cheaper than the OE filters every shop ive worked in has always went with baldwin filters
USA Honda filter made by Honeywell. Light weight just like orange Fram. Now there is made in Japan Honda filter by Mhale (I think it is German oem as well), which is a tiny bit heavier but have weird threading. A good price & quality filter I would recommend FULL from Wordpac. That thing is heavy!! However, I'm a Purolator guy. Oil filter discussion is way way way more controversial than tool brand
I exclusively use NAPA Gold (when they're on sale) or Mobil 1 premium filters on my personal/family vehicles. With Mobil 1 synthetics oil and it's what i trust and rely on.
My problem is that the OEM Lexus filter (uses cartridge style) is the cheapest option I can find and for an extra few bucks I could get an aftermarket one. Is there any studies comparing the factory Toyota filters against aftermarket filters? Project Farm did an amazing comparison vid on air filters and I'll likely take his suggestion there, but I can't find oil filter vids.
I agree with your assessment except for baselessly slamming WIX oil filters. They are some of the best made out there and countless videos on RUclips where they’ve been cut open and compared to the competition. Yeah the WIX XP or Napa Platinum is more expensive than OE, & probably not necessary if you change dino oil every 5k or synthetic every 7-8k, but if you’re someone who goes 10k or more between changes, it’s money well spent
You talking about baseless claims because some dudes on youtube cut the filters and looked at them. I have seen scientific tests on oil filters based on how fine particles they filter and how quickly they go into filter bypass. Wix aren't at the top nor the bottom of those tests, are they bad no and they the best no
In my area, it's sometimes difficult to get OEM filters, especially on Euro, and even some Asian. I've had pretty good luck with NAPA Gold, which was at one point Wix, but I think have changed suppliers. My big problem is with customers who are leasing cars. They could care less what oil is in it, VVT be damned. "I'm not keeping it, just put the cheap stuff in".
Why did you just mention Korea? It’s different from China. Where do you think the Hyundai/Kia O...E...M!!!!! Is made? Hmmm 🤔 KOREA don’t mislead people. And actually their oil filters are known to be one of the few best as far as OEM goes. Yes China filters you shouldn’t use but Korean ones FOR Korean cars you should. Don’t mention Korea as a cheap manufacturer of junk.
Before this fad of cutting open filters on YT...NO ONE CARED. They bought whatever they could afford or whatever the local quickie lube installed(usually a Fram knock off) and there were still almost zero filter related engine failures or issues. This whole filter thing is just an invented subject to argue about and make content.
I have been told FRAM supplies Honda with their blue oil filter 15400-PLM-A02 and Subaru 15208AA15A. They fit my 2007 Honda Civic and my 2016 Subaru Crosstrek. They are pretty much identical. Inter relief seems identical, the thread is correct, o-ring is correct. The only difference I see is the Subaru has a 66MM (2.560) 14 flats. The Honda is 65MM (2.520) 14 Flats. The common cup wrench in quality aluminum 65MM. No one makes a 66 except in a stamped steel cup wrench. There garbage and tend to slip. Does both filters fall in your spec that the Honda filter will work on both cars?
When I was changing my oil the Napa gold seemed like it was in bypass mode as no oil came out of it as I turned it upside down. I'e had it happen with Bosch premium and Purolator One filters. Fram always always had lots of oil coming out.
OEM doesn't mean great. It is nothing but a deal with a manufacturer that meets a standard and lowest bidder. Buy a quality filter and change it often. I use Mann or Mahle (German cars). Never had an issue on any car yet. Use synthetic oil and change every 5k miles. Dealer wants to wait 15k miles..no thanks!! Most I ever went was 7500 miles and was only once after a long road trip.
AC Delco is cheap garbage. I’ll stick buying Wix from rockauto and getting good filters for cheap. If you buy filters at a parts store you must enjoy throwing money away.
In 30 years never had an issue with FRAM oil filters, that being said depending where you live you might have few options in your area? Don't abuse my vehicles and oil changes are done every 3000 miles, used different filter brands over the years without issues.
I'll always use wix xp oil filters, but with diesel fuel filters, use only oem. Last few fuel problems I've had are with people using aftermarket fuel filters
Honda and Subaru filters are made by Fram. Walmart Supertech and K&N filters are made in same factory to same specs. So OE filters may not be as good as you think and cheap filters may not always be as bad as you think also. Do some research yourself and pick what you feel is best for your budget.
People spend $8 $9 up to $12.00 for a crappy draft beer at a ball game but get cheap with there oil filters. Walmart $10.00 for Mobil One and even cheaper for Bosch Motorcraft AC Delco and other top quality filters. Remember the old saying. You get what you pay for.
There are a few guys on youtube who cut open and inspect new oil filters.I personally have seen a oem honda oil filter cut open and guess what, nothing special and in fact looked to be on the cheaper side compared to some of the so called aftermarket oil filters.If you dont believe check it out for yourselves.
Personally I use OEM, moble 1, or Bosch on my vehicles. But I have seen A LOT OF vehicles make it to 300k with nothing but fram filters and wal-mart oil. Frequency of oil change is the key. I aint going for 10k+ oil change intervals. Also, execpt at Idle most if not all filters are in some percentage of bypass. All the oil does not get filtered. This is how metal makes it around inside an engine. For example. 7.3 PSD oil pump flows 17 gallons of oil a minute at 2200 RPM, that huge oil filter it has is only rated for 9 gallons of oil a minute. With that kind of flow it is important to have a filter that will not disintegrate and come apart. That is where the cheap filters fail, and cause VVT issues (among others), you can actually find filtet media inside the VVT components when making a repair sometimes.
some chinesse parts are just as good and not everything made in the usa are good. back then yea now no and just cuz it was made in the usa does not mean the materials are. for example alot of honda gaskets are not make by honda. look up ishinu. just as expenssive but couple dollars less
Funny how he implies only the good oil filters are made in the USA but the OEM filters I use on my Hyundai are made in Korea. So does that mean OEM Hyundai oil filters suck or they're cheap? Ummm, no!
Made in the USA does not mean they are better than other products made outside the states, just look at the American auto industry! some of the worst vehicles on the market are American Made so why should parts be any better.
I buy the Japanese Oem filters for the Subaru, the American Subaru ones are cheap frams
Bottom line..... Change your oil on a regular basis and use a new filter... Everything will be fine.
Most are good for a 5k OCI or less...
Are you suggesting that all aftermarket filters are considered cheap? Because shops run aftermarket filters because it would be a nightmare sourcing, ordering, stocking OEM filters. Sure this is great advice for the DIY'er but I can guarantee (just about) you every non dealer shop in the USA is not carrying OEM filters across the board on hand. From what I've seen most places offer upgraded filters for more money versus the standard ones. Also hyundai/kia/ and some GM OEM filters are made in korea. Where it's made is less important, how it's made and how ethical the companies involved IS important.
Just because it's OEM doesn't make it better. OEM's cheap out on filters too - the AC Delco filter for my 5.7 uses a plastic center tube, paper end caps and a nitrile ADB, while higher quality ones are metal and silicone. Hard to find a good filter these days.
Chris exactly. The wix/Napa filter is way better than the motor craft for my f150. Opposite for my f350.
Nearly every ACdelco canister filter I replace is deformed, also half of the canister filters I replace do not come with a new gasket for the housing which is just penny pinching on a new level.
@@caveman95987 the OEM gm o ring lasts forever. The frame o ring or cheap aftermarket ones barely last an oil change, they flatten out and leak
@@jamesg7022There's no such thing as an O-Ring that lasts forever. At the GMC dealership I used to work at had uses AC Delco. Every couple cars I'd get a OE O-Ring that is flattened out and leaks.
@@itsreaper1644 15 years at gm only had the black and orange ones leak. (aftermarket). The OEM green ones never leaked. That was the 2.2 2.4 2.0 ecotec's. 1.4 and 1.6 has a black gasket that comes with the delco filter
I run the fram Ultra XG on my Ram Hemi - only because the Mopar filters are cheap garbage. The Fram XG are also Made in USA.
I see it every day on my BMWs! The Chinese and Korean filters barely look like they filter anything! They have o-rings that fall apart!
Two issues:
1: the outer o-ring leaks and saturates the belts and hoses! Failure of the belt can cause some major damage!
2: the inner o-ring deteriorates and lets full blown garbage go straight to your Vanos solenoids! And if you go to far on that, more fun surprises happen!
Wix XP are made in the US also have a Synthetic media and has a wired backing. How is that not a good filter?
The efficiency isn’t a good as it’s competitors. The XP flows well but the efficiency is somewhere around only 50% at 20 microns.
Honda OEM filters are now made by Honeywell which makes FRAM, cut one open and look, they’re made with paper end caps, they’re complete garbage and it’s an OEM filter .WIX still uses metal end caps which is as close to the old-school Japanese made one that Honda used to offer for their filters
Not to mention the vvt issues they can cause on certain vehicles. There are tsbs out there on this subject. I had jeeps come in with vvt + correlation codes. Printed the tsb, sales guy says, that's it just a filter? I say no, oem filter, that's it. Slap it in, and it's good to go, no more running like crap, and codes are gone for good.
Exactly! You could be chasing ghost codes or issues with aftermarket filters and not even realize it.
I didn't know oil filters can cause VVT codes in Jeeps. Is this for the 5.7 Hemi? I put an STP XL 10,000 mile oil filter for my mom's Hemi Jeep, and it hasn't had issues for 5000 miles so far. Oil used is Royal Purple API SN 5w-20.
Dcc357 the one I've seen the most is on the 3.6L. What year? I can check for tsbs. Nonetheless, I'd do what Mike says and put oem on there
@@SuperMarioDiagnostics 2013. I'll defintely be getting Mopar filters if there is a TSB. I got the STP XL because they have a silicone ADBV and o-ring, and have even pleating.
Dcc357 I'll let you know tomorrow
The OEM filter people crack me up. You know the OE puts out a bid and cheapest wins right lol. So whoever is the cheapest and meets the OE specs getting the contract. I use wix on all my vehicles and never saw a issue to do with a oil filter.
I guess you will put that in writing, so customer buys vehicle and runs your aftermarket xyz (they deny your WARRANTY). AS they should, I would to put it as some aftermarket filter (DENIED).... Good luck.
BA Motojoke So the manufacturer has a WARRANTY for XXXXXX amount of MILES or YEARS and they put the chinese oil filter on... WRONG !!!! 🔥
It’s not about saving a couple dollars. It’s about NOT paying extra for exactly the same thing.
Now this is not always the case but too often it is.
I use Motorcraft FL1A on my older vehicle which I believe is made by Purolator and known to be a pretty good filter, My newer rig has been getting Napa Gold (Wix). Can you cite the studies where Wix didn’t filter that well? Not disagreeing with you, but I was under the impression they’re a good filter. Who’s the actual manufacturer of Mopar filters? I’ll switch to those if they’re better...
Bosch Premiums are the best filters I've found for the price. They are about $6 on Amazon, and go on sale for as little as $3. Made in USA, very good quality.
Why do people think Bosch anything is good? Is it the name? Bosh filters cut open are an adventure. You never know what's inside or missing inside.
@@Jimmy-sj9ny
That wasn't my experience, and I do cut filters. But this was three years ago and I don't have that vehicle anymore.
I recently did a service on a komatsu WA500 which has 2 engine oil filters. The cheap ones barely fit and take several attempts to get the threads started. Also on some of our older DT466 Internationals, the cheap spin-on fuel filters they buy don't even cover the whole housing, causing them to rust and get seized in place. I'm in municipal fleet maintenance and your views of fleet shops are 100% correct 😂
Premium Guard produced oil filters are the same way. Whenever a Ford 2.0 comes in the shop I struggle to get the STP filter started but the Mobil 1’s go right on.
Ok I have a 1989 D21 that I bought on the first time buyers program back in 89. That being said I change the oil every 2500-3000 miles. The oil is always a major brand and the filters were not factory but not bottom end other. I have 190K and only have to do the maintenance items. It has been super. I plan on replacing the timing chain and oil pump this summer.
I use the ACDelco on my vehicles if they're in stock. Otherwise it's a Fram or Carquest Blue (by WIX). Never had a problem with any of my vehicles. Of course, I change my oil on time every time.
On a stock vehicle used to get back and forth from work and provided you're getting your oil changed regularly an OEM filter is going to do you just fine for the life of the vehicle. If OEM filters were total junk then car manufacturers wouldn't be using them.
I agree with you on the idea of using the brand that makes the OEM filter it’s the best value for money because engine rebuilds arnt cheap😂
Denso is Toyota oem
Agreed! My 2015 Kawasaki zx6r was brand new when i got it and ive used the oe filter many times. Decided to experiment with other brands like k&n and i noticed more engine noise with them....idunno why, all i can think is maybe oil restriction or pressure being an issue. So i went back to the oe filter and no more engine noise....ive changed the oil diligently with synthetic oil early every time
K&N has never been a good brand.
For me on my personal vehicles it depends on which car it is. My Cadillac I run Napa Gold mainly because I don't have leak issues, l even had leaks on OEM filter. The Kia I have the best luck with OEM filters. My tractors Napa Gold filters work excellent( nearest John deere parts dealer 50 miles away) and the work truck I do use a cheap filter. It's a 97 Ford with 300,000 miles on it, its pretty much shot, and it does use oil. I can't justify putting much money into the truck simply its worn out and not really dependable. Its mainly stays on the farm.
My $2.97 Walmart 6607 oil filter has metal caps on both ends while the OEM uses carboard.
no oil filter uses cardboard. it's more like a fiber/fabric. it does the exact same thing as metal end caps. what exactly makes metal superior? fram uses fiber ends and they state that the fabric holds on to the glue and seals much better than metal.
Honda… made in the USA… by FRAM. This filter uses the least expensive internals and filter media and dresses up a little with a silicone ADBV, blue paint and the Honda logo. Not superior to Wix or any of the aftermarket filters you’re bashing.
Yep, I won't use OEM Honda filters on my CRV. There are better filters available for a few dollars more.
When I hear ‘cheap oil filter’ I immediately think Fram. A lot of OE’s are using Fram’s garbage. I’ll definitely take your advice and check out info on Wix because that’s usually what I run. Been thinking about buying bulk from Baldwin. Huge Baldwin fan. They work great on 14 liter diesels for over 15k miles, should probably work fine on one of my little beaters.
i fixed a low oil pressure issue on a suburban once just by changing the oil filter lol. came in for low oil pressure message on the cluster. as soon as you started it pressure would drop from 45ish to 0 at idle. lead tech did oil pressure sensor, sensor screen and d.o.d. manifold before he gave up on it. they hand me the ticket and i said lets do an oil change before we tear out the oil pump. changed the oil, started it up and pressure went back to spec. not all oil filters are built the same boys.
Heavy equipment, use only dealer filters , micro rating is where it's at, seen to much micron kill engine,s not enough micro also kills you too
IDK about this. My silverado with 283k miles uses a wix xp filter. My 674 HP big block Chevy in my car uses a wix standard filter. If it's good enough for almost a 700 HP 15,000 dollar engine it's good enough for your truck.
Randy bobandy I think the real question is, is it good enough for a cream yellow ‘76 New Yorker?
@@rustyjeep2469 heck yeah. Wix has been in business along time. They must be ok
@@justinballard7242 it is ok
But oe will always be better.
RustyJeep lmao I think that one flew right over his head.
@@thatdudemoe9109 OE is made by many manufacturers, sometimes MANN, FRAM, even WIX and others. They don't make them themselves.
Fyi with that honda filter if its a A02 filter its made by Fram.... ya fram throw it in the trash. The A01 was a very good filter i used them in my 1000hp 4 cylinder drag honda and had no issues however these new filters are absolute garbage and they are replacing the A01 with the A02. Hate to disagree with you but with honda and duramax diesels napa gold wix is the best option in my experiance, i speak from dyno/track/ and engine shop testing. My team and myself subject my car to race fuel and very high rpm 10300rpm and power and have had no lubrication issues with napa gold ill run nothing else. If you have ever run race fuel in a drag engine youll how how hard the richer mixture is on the lubricarion system especially ethanal. I would look into a few more studies. Big fan of the show keep it up man.
What you are talking about, and what he is talking about are two totally different worlds. You dont run that filter in your car for 5000-10000 miles like they go in a normal car. I am sure they work great out of the box, but the normal, everyday car has to worry about them filtering and lasting for 6months /5k miles or more.
Kurt Kennedy like i said i put then in a lot of diesel applications that see 8000 hard miles towing and have no issues, wix is one of the best filters on the market plenty of studies and tests agree with me.
Yes you are correct about the Honda's A02 oil filters being manufactured by FRAM. But as of 2019, Honda has terminated their contract with FRAM for making their oil filters. Because Honda found out that you can still tamper with the oil filter after it's been wrapped and sealed with plastic after being manufactured by FRAM. Honda has a new supplier now. They are Mahle Tennex Corp and it's not FRAM anymore and these new filters are made either in Japan or USA. The new part number is 15400-RTA-003.
@@MrHunk-dx6vy mahle makes napa silver filters lol
Im a firm believer in OEM or better. Not just for oil changes but all repairs.
I was watching diesel tech Ron video on
Ford 6.0 filters and bought the $25 kit on eBay with 3 oil and fuel filter. I also bought the motorcraft kit with air, fuel and oil filter for $119 from a ford dealer with an eBay store. The fuel filter on the bottom was a 1/4 inch taller than the ford and would not let the cap tightened all the way down. The oil filter was taller also and didn’t fit. I want to make videos at some point so I considered it cheap research. Imagine the DYI guy who only buys the knockoff and keeps cranking away on the cap.
Usually I try and use Mahle, WIX or Mann for out of warranty, within warranty only genuine filters (even though OE equivalent are deemed ok according to block exemption here in the UK).
But seen some poor genuine filters, sometimes even the top aftermarket brands look poorly made.
It's becoming a minefield.
I use oe filters,but I've never had a problem with wix products ever I happen to like them
Good video budn It's like on my BMW the O.E filters are made by Mahle, so you can buy Mahle from local Autopart suppliers and they're cheaper. Same product different box.
On new vehicles I always use oem to avoid any warranty issues with the manufacturer.
I hear oem filters are certified by the carmaker to maintain proper oil pressure & filtering. I do not know about all carmakers, but at least for subarus which I own, oil analysis tests by owners have shown wix gold to filter better than the Fram made subaru oem, but still maintain proper oil pressure. The older japan made subaru filters were the best, but cost more. A couple years back, dealerships switched to fram made subaru filters, which from what I am told are decent, but not as good. But, please don't take my word for it, u have research these things and decide on ur own...
After cutting open AC Delco...I won't use them...Wix or Napa
Gregory Fairchild napa and wix are the same manufacturer right?
As a shop owner I would love to stock OEM filters for all vehicles but it would be very hard to do so. Do you guy's stock filters at your shop, if so are they all OEM? I have over 20 different filters on the shelf right now.
OEM sucks. I work at Honda and I'm here to tell you THEY SUCK! use purolator filters are they best. Period
I've been wrenching for 20+ years, and I swear by Wix oil filters, top quality for sure. I only use Mobil 1 oil. OEM oil filters aren't all that special. Honda is good, but those AC Delco filters are made by Fram (yuck), and Ford's Motorcraft filters are made by Purolator just with a fancy paint job. Can't go wrong with Wix, just sayin.
Honda AO2’s are Fram, AC Delcos are Champion Labs, and the Motorcrafts are built with the top combo bypass valve and silicone ADBV to prevent timing chain rattle unlike the Purolator reds.
@@warrenself ok, i gotta ask. What sales pamphlet did you get that "prevents timing chain rattle" thing from? Worn chain guides cause chains to rattle.
@@randomgamer-st1ie Sales pamphlet? It’s called real world experience. Customer comes in - I change the oil and use the cheap quick lube filter - and the 5.4 rattles for a couple seconds like the chains are going to jump out of the front cover. Common solution is to go under there and spin off the China filter and install an FL820S. Not my truck, not my business though. Customer paid for what he paid and didn’t mind the noise. The Fram on my 4.6 did the same thing once but I checked the oil and was just low by about a quart and hadn’t driven the truck in a few days.
Nothing wrong with fram with a 3,000 mile OCI
The honda a02 filter is made by fram. Its actually just the mid level fram at that.
We have a shop around here that uses the amazon filters because they are cheap and he sells them at nspa gold prices ive pulled them apart and like fram they have a one time use bypass valve, something that sucks in the arctic where a start up on tbick oil can ruin your bypass valve spring just my opinion we dont have dealerships in bush ak so we work with what we can get which is napa or mail order
I still think Wix makes a better filter the ACDelco. I’ve ran Wix filters for 10 years now and not once have I ever had a problem.
The Honda oil filters for most of there cars are the same as Fram if you are using the A02 filters. if you use the A01 filters they are much better made. You can cut them apart and compare. However i can’t speak on the other filters.
OEM - Manufacturer stated this is the OIL filter to use. Why go against it, they developed/tested and built the engine.
Because the OEM doesn't built oil filters . They get a third party to paint them a certain color and slap a label on them . OEM engineers had nothing to do with designing the filter . They just picked one out of a catalog that will do the job at the lowest price point . OEM always leaves room for improvement
Honda oil filter made by fram the cheap filter paper end caps. AC Delco made by fram cheap filter
I used to use Fram filters until I bought a filter cutter. I was horrified at the cheap construction of the filter! The basic Purolator filter is way better construction and media than the Fram. I now use top level Purolator after cutting open numerous brands.
Look at Bosch and you'll switch from Purolator. I did.
I dont understand it either. Our oil changes are not cheap, They are priced correctly, for the quality parts we use. EVERY SINGLE synthetic oil change we do, gets a OE / OEM filter. No questions about it. A lot of the time, a Toyota, Honda, motorcraft filter is cheaper than Carquest premium, wix gold etc. so why in the hell would you use anything besides the OEM at that point?!
Being a shop owner for two years, there is A lot of stuff I see out there from other shops that really just makes me shake my head.
??? You think OEM is the superior filter ? Most retail filters have models that kick the crap out of any OEM.. which are all just contracted out filters anyway made by some other company.
I would really be interested to see the test saying wix filters do not flow well, I’ve been in the parts business for 20 years now and have never heard that from anyone.
Me either
The standard Wix filters around 99% efficiency at 30 microns and the XP is around 50% at 20. The latter being poor compared to OEM and the former being basically the same but more expensive.
What do you do when your OEM filter is made in China? IE: Duramax 6.6L engine TP3018
I would follow tested data before I would blindly hunt for oem filter
Wait , hold up. The last time I remember doing an oil change on a Hyundai, I used OEM oil filter. On the box and the filter itself says “Made In Korea”. 🤔🤔🤔
The oe filters don't seep like the cheap filters
You are too proud of US products huh?
Look at your Ford , GM, chevy, Jeep, all crap just after few miles.
Now look at Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Mazda, etc..barely need fixing after hundreds of miles..
Lots of US automotive brands are built with bad quality.. What makes you think US made oil filters are any different?
How do we really know which oil filters are best?
The price difference between a good filter and a low quality filter is less than a coffee at Starbucks. In my many years working in the field, I have never once seen a Fram filter on a commercial engine. Most are Baldwin, Wix and Fleetguard. (Baldwin being the most popular) Aftermarket filters are not less expensive than factory filters like they use to be.
I use Napa Gold filters
Good topic Mike, something I never usually thought about really, but I've always grabbed Mobile 1 filter with the oil since I assumed that it would coincide with one another in terms of quality?
But, there is no doubt about it, oil and filter quality is something basic, but seems like it tends to be a little neglected by many.
I agree, it's really important considering how much it affects the most important components in the vehicle!
I used to do that too until I found out that mobile 1 filters did not meet the pressure rating for my particular application (subaru turbo) so I switch to wix, which was rated better then even OEM. I had to research on my own for my particular application. I made my decision based on what MANY others found out when they did oil analysis on their dirty oil.
@@blue88aw11 I believe it, the OEM is always your safest bet for pretty much anything on the car...there are some exceptions.
I like what you said about wix, napa gold etc cost might not justify it when you can get a compatible filter for less. I like Purolator as they are priced right and decent quality, and best of all never had a problem with one for over 30 years.
I could never figure out why somebody would spent $50k+ for a vehicle and ask me to install a Protech or a basic Fram filter.... I've installed only good quality aftermarket or OEM filters, whether it be oil, gas, or air. In a vehicle that uses light oil, i.e., 0w-20 or 0w-15, always a filter designed to work with synethic oil such as Mobil 1, K&N Gold, Fram Ultra, etc. Never had a problem when changing oil with the right filter for the right type of oil.
The Honda OEM in the thumbnail *is* a basic Fram filter... Even within different versions of the same OEM filter you can find different build quality (at one point there were Purflux, Mahle, Filtech/Tokyo Roki and Fram versions of the Honda OEM oil filter) or even within the same corporation you can find different build quality (some Frams are rebadged Purflux filters, some Purflux filters are rebadged Fram filters; some Purolator are rebadged Mann + Hummel, some Mann + Hummel are rebadged Purolator and so on, now Wix is part of Mann + Hummel too), but as long as you stick with a reputable brand (including Champ Labs, Gonher etc) it should be totally fine.
Baldwin filters?
Truckers seem to really like Baldwin. You can Google these filters
Most OEM are junk... I use purolator
I know your truck calls for a pf48 and you probably change your oil frequently... But I have fixed a quite of few trucks with the low oil pressure problem p0521 code with a PF63 its the longer version of the 48. They seem to add around 10psi to the top end.
Roger that
Honda is made by y Honeywell (Fram)
Motorcraft Mobil One Bosch K&N Baldwin Royal Purple Amsoil Fram XG Wix. There you go. From about $5.00 to $16.00.
That’s a Honda filter he is holding. If the numbers end in A02 there crap and made by Fram. The other was A01 and made by Filtech. You can Google that information. I stick with Mobil One filters for my Honda Ridgeline and JEEP GC. There $10.00 at Walmart.
Mobile 1 filters are made by champion labs 🤷♂️
Wix makes the microgard filters for oreilly and they even say don't run synthetic with the basic microgard filter and that it is a 3k mile filter. Wix regular (napa gold) is the minimum for synthetic and they recommend their quite expensive Wix xp filter for full synthetic and long service intervals.
Not sure about other car manufacturers, but when I worked for a general motors dealer. At least once or twice a month we would get customers who just had oil changed at Walmart in last day or two. Engine would have a tick. Take off from oil filter and put ac delco filter on noise would be gone. Saw this on cars and trucks didn't seem to make difference in engine. I never got too scientific on it just cut filters open and fram seemed to have less material in it.
This all sounds great but you have no idea who is making your oem filter year-to-year. This work goes out on bid, they can change year-to-year. No car manufacturer manufacturers their own filters.
Actually some do.
what do you think about Blueprint filter oil ?
That Delco filter you are holding is the exact same filter as supertech, made in the same factory. The difference is the box and the part number. Just an FYI.
Nope. It may look similar but its not made in the same factory. No matter where its made, GM designed it to work with the engine.
QC is a lot higher with oem filters..Still think Toyota denso filters are the best made
A question about oil changes. Why does everyone change the oil at 3,000 miles. Every new vehicle I have purchased the manual recommended every 7,500 miles. I thought modern oils are better? So , why change it more often if that is not what is recommended. I get the sales thing but, I have never had a problem at 7,500 miles. Just make sure you top it off when needed.
Idk, i do 5k on all my vehicles
Because most people drive in severe conditions. 7,500 miles is for people who mostly drive mostly extended highway miles with no heavy traffic. City/metro driving degrade oil faster more than highway driving.
@@flucas6595 Those people should run synthetic oil and 7,500 miles shouldn't be a problem.
@@flatratemaster you are missing out on a bonus 2500 miles on the manufacturer.
@@lynnh7694 synthetic oil still degrade faster if you drive mostly in the city which consider servere driving conditions. 7,500 is fine if you do a lot of extended highway driving.
Im heavy equipment we use baldwin filters instead of OE and they work really well for the most part and are still waay cheaper than the OE filters every shop ive worked in has always went with baldwin filters
USA Honda filter made by Honeywell. Light weight just like orange Fram. Now there is made in Japan Honda filter by Mhale (I think it is German oem as well), which is a tiny bit heavier but have weird threading.
A good price & quality filter I would recommend FULL from Wordpac. That thing is heavy!!
However, I'm a Purolator guy.
Oil filter discussion is way way way more controversial than tool brand
But is it more controversial than Ford vs Chevy vs Ram?
I exclusively use NAPA Gold (when they're on sale) or Mobil 1 premium filters on my personal/family vehicles. With Mobil 1 synthetics oil and it's what i trust and rely on.
People pay 15-20 more dollars for 5 qts of synthetic but can't afford 5 more for an oem filter it's just not a smart move
My problem is that the OEM Lexus filter (uses cartridge style) is the cheapest option I can find and for an extra few bucks I could get an aftermarket one.
Is there any studies comparing the factory Toyota filters against aftermarket filters?
Project Farm did an amazing comparison vid on air filters and I'll likely take his suggestion there, but I can't find oil filter vids.
Every car needs an oil filter. If it's under warranty I go OEM. Otherwise been using Fram for 30 years, never lost an engine yet.
Fram 🤡
From ultras are really good. Synthetic media,silicone bypass valve. Little better than most oe, but if you don't run long intervals OE are fine
I agree with your assessment except for baselessly slamming WIX oil filters. They are some of the best made out there and countless videos on RUclips where they’ve been cut open and compared to the competition. Yeah the WIX XP or Napa Platinum is more expensive than OE, & probably not necessary if you change dino oil every 5k or synthetic every 7-8k, but if you’re someone who goes 10k or more between changes, it’s money well spent
You talking about baseless claims because some dudes on youtube cut the filters and looked at them. I have seen scientific tests on oil filters based on how fine particles they filter and how quickly they go into filter bypass. Wix aren't at the top nor the bottom of those tests, are they bad no and they the best no
@@flatratemaster Can you please provide link for those scientific studies? I would like to look at the data myself.
@@flatratemaster Baseless claims yet refuses to post any studies to back up your own point.
In my area, it's sometimes difficult to get OEM filters, especially on Euro, and even some Asian. I've had pretty good luck with NAPA Gold, which was at one point Wix, but I think have changed suppliers. My big problem is with customers who are leasing cars. They could care less what oil is in it, VVT be damned. "I'm not keeping it, just put the cheap stuff in".
Wix got bought out by Mann Hummel last year or the year before. All the new napa gold filters we get say Mann Hummel on them.
Why did you just mention Korea? It’s different from China. Where do you think the Hyundai/Kia O...E...M!!!!! Is made? Hmmm 🤔 KOREA don’t mislead people. And actually their oil filters are known to be one of the few best as far as OEM goes. Yes China filters you shouldn’t use but Korean ones FOR Korean cars you should. Don’t mention Korea as a cheap manufacturer of junk.
Before this fad of cutting open filters on YT...NO ONE CARED. They bought whatever they could afford or whatever the local quickie lube installed(usually a Fram knock off) and there were still almost zero filter related engine failures or issues. This whole filter thing is just an invented subject to argue about and make content.
Wix filters and Mobile 1 from lawnmowers, boats, SUV, Truck, Drag car and 1965 Chevelle I've had 42 years. Never a problem. P.S. Suv 194k, Truck 174k
I have been told FRAM supplies Honda with their blue oil filter 15400-PLM-A02 and Subaru 15208AA15A. They fit my 2007 Honda Civic and my 2016 Subaru Crosstrek.
They are pretty much identical. Inter relief seems identical, the thread is correct, o-ring is correct. The only difference I see is the Subaru has a 66MM (2.560) 14 flats. The Honda is 65MM (2.520) 14 Flats. The common cup wrench in quality aluminum 65MM. No one makes a 66 except in a stamped steel cup wrench. There garbage and tend to slip.
Does both filters fall in your spec that the Honda filter will work on both cars?
I use Purolator there made in usa
I've seen some recent reviews showing many of them are coming from Mexico now.
When I was changing my oil the Napa gold seemed like it was in bypass mode as no oil came out of it as I turned it upside down. I'e had it happen with Bosch premium and Purolator One filters. Fram always always had lots of oil coming out.
OEM doesn't mean great. It is nothing but a deal with a manufacturer that meets a standard and lowest bidder. Buy a quality filter and change it often. I use Mann or Mahle (German cars). Never had an issue on any car yet. Use synthetic oil and change every 5k miles. Dealer wants to wait 15k miles..no thanks!! Most I ever went was 7500 miles and was only once after a long road trip.
Cut open an AC Delco filter and you will probably switch to something else. AC Delco filters are garbage these days imo.
AC Delco is cheap garbage. I’ll stick buying Wix from rockauto and getting good filters for cheap. If you buy filters at a parts store you must enjoy throwing money away.
Hate to burst your bubble but Mann Hummel not only makes that OE Hyundai filter your holding but also Napa gold and many other filters
In 30 years never had an issue with FRAM oil filters, that being said depending where you live you might have few options in your area? Don't abuse my vehicles and oil changes are done every 3000 miles, used different filter brands over the years without issues.
I'll always use wix xp oil filters, but with diesel fuel filters, use only oem. Last few fuel problems I've had are with people using aftermarket fuel filters
Honda and Subaru filters are made by Fram. Walmart Supertech and K&N filters are made in same factory to same specs. So OE filters may not be as good as you think and cheap filters may not always be as bad as you think also. Do some research yourself and pick what you feel is best for your budget.
People spend $8 $9 up to $12.00 for a crappy draft beer at a ball game but get cheap with there oil filters. Walmart $10.00 for Mobil One and even cheaper for Bosch Motorcraft AC Delco and other top quality filters. Remember the old saying. You get what you pay for.
There are a few guys on youtube who cut open and inspect new oil filters.I personally have seen a oem honda oil filter cut open and guess what, nothing special and in fact looked to be on the cheaper side compared to some of the so called aftermarket oil filters.If you dont believe check it out for yourselves.
What do you think about amsoil filters?
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Well fram filters are made in missouri so i guess cheaper is better.
Personally I use OEM, moble 1, or Bosch on my vehicles. But I have seen A LOT OF vehicles make it to 300k with nothing but fram filters and wal-mart oil. Frequency of oil change is the key. I aint going for 10k+ oil change intervals.
Also, execpt at Idle most if not all filters are in some percentage of bypass. All the oil does not get filtered. This is how metal makes it around inside an engine.
For example. 7.3 PSD oil pump flows 17 gallons of oil a minute at 2200 RPM, that huge oil filter it has is only rated for 9 gallons of oil a minute. With that kind of flow it is important to have a filter that will not disintegrate and come apart. That is where the cheap filters fail, and cause VVT issues (among others), you can actually find filtet media inside the VVT components when making a repair sometimes.
some chinesse parts are just as good and not everything made in the usa are good. back then yea now no and just cuz it was made in the usa does not mean the materials are. for example alot of honda gaskets are not make by honda. look up ishinu. just as expenssive but couple dollars less
Funny how he implies only the good oil filters are made in the USA but the OEM filters I use on my Hyundai are made in Korea. So does that mean OEM Hyundai oil filters suck or they're cheap? Ummm, no!