I'd like to point out a more general reason for the difference in blanket behavior between us and objects/substances: we're constantly generating heat. Objects usually aren't. The blanket traps the heat with us, so it accumulates and we specifically become warmer. But for objects, they reduce the movement of heat, so the object stays near whatever temperature it was previously.
He just means to say that the object has a tendency to not melt, coz it causes "cold", or i guess endothermic is a better way to out it, which aims to refreeze it again.
Nah he means that the surrounding area gets colder when snow melts. That is a reason why ski races sometimes salt the run, so the top parts melt. The rest then stays colder and doesn’t melt. It is counter intuitive, but the energy for the melting “reaction” comes from the surrounding area. Therefore, taking that energy/heat away.
@@Gamer3427 most of the metric system is objectively better than imperial systems, but Celsius isn't as strong of a case. If you need to do scientific measurements, you should be using Kelvins most of the time, not Celsius. If a common person needs to boil water, they don't need to know it's at 100 C. They just heat the water til it boils. Fahrenheit has two redeeming qualities. 1) 0 is super cold and 100 is super hot. Thats pretty intuitive. 2) 1 degree Fahrenheit is more specific than 1 degree celsius, which adds a bit more specificity in describing temperature. Fahrenheit isn't objectively better than Celsius, but it's a bit more of a gray area on which is better, as compared to other Imperial vs metric systems comparisons.
Reverse-searched the image shown and found that 1. that photograph of the Lesotho ski resort WAS taken in July & 2. theres not much snowfall in those mountains so they use artificial snow in the winter. so technically nothing in that sentence was wrong.
Kilowatts can't be "per hour". Power consumption is an instantaneous property. I guess you mean to say uses 23kW. So if you run it for an hour, that's 23kWh - kilowatt hours - of *energy* that you've used.
Mount Hood doesn't have snowmaking. They don't cover the snow with thermal blankets. Though they do salt the snow when grooming at night. This freezes the top layer. Levi Finland is opening on October 4th with snow saved from last May.
Almost right. No snowmaking on Mt Hood, no blankets either, but they don’t salt at night while grooming. They do it first thing in the morning right before setting courses. (I know this because I used to do it)
1:56 That's not what a kilowatt hour is, it doesn't use 23 kW of energy per hour, because Watts are a unit of power not energy. 23 kW means it uses 23 kiloJOULES of energy per second. A kilowatt hour is a measure of energy though, specifically it's the amount of energy that a 1kW device uses in an hour (which is 3.6MJ). So these guns use 23kW of POWER, which means that by definition each hour they use 23kWh, but at that point you may as well just call them 23kW machines as saying that they use 23kWh per hour is redundant.
You should do an episode on Snow Cats. I work with one of the manufacturers, Prinoth, and they are super interesting machines. Winch cats are particularly cool.
1:58 kilowatts doesnt measure energy but power. You can't use kilowatts per hour, you can use, as the unit on screen indicates, kilowatthours per hour. The snowgun would thus use 23 kWh per hour which would be equivalent to a consumption of 82800 kilojoules per hour
kWh per hour is just kW. So does each of these guns draw 23 kW when running? That seems like a lot for essentially running a fan, even including the energy to pump water (and maybe compress air, if those guns use compressed air) to feed the guns. Like about 30 HP continuous to run one gun?
Energy bills charge the customer per kWh. In my town, that’s 10¢ per kWh. If I ran a snow gun on my roof 24 hours a day for 30 days, I would expect a $1656 increase in my energy bill.
to everyone pointing out lesotho’s in the southern hemisphere: if you search that image you’ll see it was taken in july & that the article states it’s artificial snow. so nothing in that sentence was wrong, july may be winter there but doesn’t mean that afriski gets much snowfall
Missed a couple key points with man-made snow. You can’t just shoot water into the air and expect to make snow. The water droplets will not freeze quick enough before hitting the ground. For that reason, compressed air is also used to help “nucleate” the water droplet. Droplet becomes more of a globe like an ornament, not a solid frozen bead. Also, 28F for making snow is only true when using a wet bulb thermometer. Wet bulb factors in humidity. Amount of moisture in the air is extremely important when it comes to snow making. At 39F and 10% humidity, you can make snow. 20F and 100% humidity, you can’t make snow. Side note, I’ve worked at a couple of ski areas in Michigan. Depending on the size of the ski area, snowmaking can cost $100k-$1M a day if running the guns wide open non-stop. When I worked at my local hill, it wasn’t uncommon for us to cause a brownouts when we were running full tilt.
@@bubbabigmin I was like ...what? myself.. I read an interview of the owner of SUgar Mtn in NC. 125 acres and tons of snowmaking...he said his budget for snow was 1.2 mill for the season...that was a few years ago so maybe 1.5 now....so how about $8 to 10k a day
Snow is also being stored in huge piles here in Trondheim, for cross-country skiing (World Championships coming winter). But it's not covered in those white blankets, it's covered in thick layers of sawdust. And some blankets on top of that to keep the rain out.
@@joona4021 Good question, I don't really know how they separate the sawdust from the snow without messing up the snow. Maybe a thin layer of something under the sawdust? 🤷♂
My home resort of Copper usually uses the slab of summer snow for a terrain park (jumps and rails). The work that cat drivers put in to make it happen is truly insane. Absolute giga-chads
@@heisen-bones It's still a mistake though, just a different mistake. Timberline doesn't use artificial snow or snow storage. Mount Hood just naturally has snow year-round.
lol the ski resorts here in Oregon usually have mtn biking, hiking and if you go to ski bowl they have an “alpine slide” which If you’re not careful can go fast enough to fly off of 😂
Lmao good old HAI paying NYC wages for a remote job....whilst a lot of the other RUclipsrs who write scripts have outsourced them & pay people like $5 an hour
1:04 the information being given out is incorrect. When talking about Mt.Hood Oregon the picture shown is of the Palmer ski lift at Timberline lodge that is known for its summer skiing, this lift is on a naturally occurring snowfield. This lift is one of the most unique in North America because it was built on a glacier, since then the glacier has shrunk so much that it was reclassified as a snowfield. I have lived and worked on this about 6 years now, our snow is 100% naturally occurring! Love the video
1:56 HAI said 23 kW/hour which is a rate of power instead of rate of energy. The units on the screen are also confusing showing a unit of energy 23kWh, but still not power. What should be said is 23 kW or 23kWh/h.
1:06 That is Timberline lodge at Mt Hood Oregon. The lift pictured is Palmer lift. It doesn’t open during the winter season not due to lack of snowmaking but due to too much snow. That lift is usually only open during the summer for skiing on Palmer glacier. This had nothing to due with the statement he is making during this clip.
That ski resort in Alabama isn't far from Valley Head, AL which is always the coldest place in the state. As pointed out, they can make snow when it is cold but no one attempts to maintain the snow unless it stays below 32F. Cloudmont Ski Resort 721 Co Rd 614, Mentone, AL 35984. Also the home of Riverview Camp for Girls, and Nature's Classroom atop Lookout Mountain.
Oregon goes through August actually, and without snow making! It's less and less every year though, and someday the hundreds of tons of salt they put on that glacier a summer is going to come back to haunt us...
In my hometown Rovaniemi, Finland, the snow is stored for the ski resort but also for the cross country skiing. It is a big deal around here because skiing is an important sport and hobby around here. One year some local skiers were almost violently hostile when the city didn't open the early ski route on late October because of economic reasons. So yeah, in Finland we store snow to open ski resorts early but also to keep local people happy.
6:40 not sure why the wood chips is mentioned. That would be less economically, harder to install where needed logistically, would need a water repellent plastic barrier anyway, and would need a second sealed plastic barrier to avoid getting wood chips on the precious snow ❄️
Im so happy you included davos because thats where I go sking ever year but its normally used for the cross country skiing and not the actual mountain because its snows more than enough there and is snow secure until 2050. They've been doing this strategy for a long time now.
- We're losing snow due to climate change. - Not a big deal, we can create artificial snow by using a lot of energy. And also accelerating climate change.
Not a big deal. We can get our energy from renewables instead. This sort of stuff shows the extent to which modern humans can outright reject natures weather and substitute their own.
3:00 I did expect this footage to appear in the video, but the context is actually absoultely wrong. This was shot on a yearly Grelka Fest in Sheregesh ski resort, Russia and (a) they don't use snow guns there at all, (b) it always happens in mid-April, when the natural snow is still intact and air temperature is high enough for cold-tolerant people to ski in bikinis and (c) Kemerovo oblast in the deep of Siberia, where Sheregesh is located definitely isn't "getting warmer year-round" round now. So, booo, HaI, bad-bad fact checking
Damn rich people don't give a shit about anything huh I like the shade being thrown at skiing in this video tbh. Such a huge environmental impact for a source of entertainment that can leave you brain dead if you do it wrong.
I’m glad you acknowledged that hand held sewing machines will self destruct if you slightly look at them wrong😂😂 as soon as you said that’s what was used I’m like, oh they must have some purpose made ones because they’re not really designed the best, even on a commercial level, they’re really just more of an in pinch machine not something I’d expect to be used for sewing snow blankets under less than ideal conditions.
How do you use that little power in july? I live by myself in a small one bedroom apartment and use more power than that on air conditioning while I am asleep.
I looked at making a DIY snow maker when I liked in CT. The tech is really simple - it is a fan, a pressure washer, and a air compressor - all if which I had. So, what stopped me? As it turns out, you can only make snow when both the temperature and humidity are low and I noticed that most of the times when I wanted to make snow, the the conditions would not let me make snow even if I had a snow maker.
so then the slopes that get blanketted can't be used for skiing once they are covered. so if it takes 3 months then you lose the 3 months of skiing. so either you get it done faster at the end of winter before it gets too warm or you lose use time in winter.
You say that snow guns won't work above freezing, however that's not true: "Snow machines can function at air temperatures as high as 40°F (4.4°C) with appropriate humidity levels." - i believe it works based on evaporational cooling.
I was really surprised to see a familiar place in footage 2:49 of snow machines working. this resort isn’t really popular, and moreover is located in eastern part of russia. i wonder how you found this videos and choose them
For timberline they have snow cats everyday packing the snowfield up at the Palmer ski lift, even in the middle of the winter at before sun rise I watch the snow cats go up and down packing the snow, because I like to get there a little early and pregame
I go to Davos for a weekend every year to go skiing, I didn't know they store snow somewhere for next year^^ But I've seen the blanket to save snow at glaciers on other swiss mountains
3:47 I think its unfair to say FIS need to cancel so many races due to a lack of Snow. Thats just not true. Sölden and Zermatt were canceled due to the bad weather situation at race day. You also mentioned that there is snowfarming for too early races. But is this really true ? Sölden Worldcup takes place in the end of october, but the skiresort is already open since early september 🤔. Same goes for Levi, worldcup is in november, skiresort opening is first weekend of october. This argument doesnt make too much sense for me.
...or cooking point... of course, because Fahrenheit just failed trying what Kelvin succeeded in... There's no other reason for Kelvin scale but this mistake.
I WENT SKIING AT THAT ONE PLACE IN ALABAMA ONCE! It was bizarre, there was a green golf course at the bottom, and they had a pile of old ski rentals from other crappy reaorts (like Peoli Peaks) that appeared to go there for one last dying hurrah 😂 I skiied in jeans, as that felt appropriate...
I remember being a child: lawn water rations, shower flow reducers, dead tomato plants, yet somehow the golf courses were evergreen and the ski lodge opened no later than November.
It’s fake, it does not produce the fluffy “snowflake shaped” snow. It’s tiny ice shards. Riding on it/through it you know immediately cause it’s much harder packed and icyer. If you ride through a snow maker then a ton of tiny little ice dots. It’s not even fake snow, it’s tiny bits of ice
@@dundee2858 It's closer to snow than any to any other form of precipitation. Most natural snow is not in the form of pretty hexagonal flakes either. And it is produced in roughly the same manner as natural snow. Sure, it's fairly dense, but old snowpacks are also dense. So I guess the question is if ice on the ground that fell as snow 3 months ago is still snow or if it has transformed into something else. If it has, then it has effectively transformed into the same thing as artificially-produced snow.
@@EebstertheGreat yea you can argue about how "it's closer to snow than any other precipitation" but at the end of the day it's not snow, it is literally tiny drops of ice, that's just what it is and you can't spin it any other way, close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades
@@EebstertheGreat my fucking guy, have you ever seen snow before? I am Canadian I know what know is and looks like. Snow is defined as “ atmospheric water vapour frozen into ice CRYSTALS (not droplets you might notice) and falling in light white flakes. I’m not sure if you’re from a place that doesn’t have snow but we get it all the time and I have also been snowboarding for 7 years in eastern Ontario, home of the snow maker in Canada. I’m sorry but you are wrong in every sense of the word, I’m not sure if this is a troll or a bot at this point but I’ll say it one more time real slow. Snow is crystals of ice forming in the atmosphere, fake snow is tiny ice droplets forming 5 meters above the ground. It is not true, real snow
Because using water's freezing and boiling point at a certain atmospheric pressure is too much difficulty. Much easier to use frozen and liquid water and amonium chloride as 0 and some random guy in the 18th century's blood
It's a joke Americans make out our own expense. Despite claims to the contrary most of us understand most metric units. We learn them all in school, and use them for enough things. Almost no Americans though can think in Celsius as applied to weather. We lack the benchmarks to just know what any particular temperature "feels" like.q
1:59 -kWh are a unit of power not energy. Power is already energy over time, and so to say “23 kWh/h” doesn’t make much sense.- Edit: whoops kW (kilowatts) is power kWh (kilowatt hours) is energy. He still said kilowatts and saying 23kWh/h still doesn’t make much sense as the units would cancel out to 23kW.
@@HK417A1 yeah I realized that just after I posted my comment and added an edit, but unfortunately the edit is cut off, and people have to click to see it. I’ve edited my comment again to cross out the original comment.
Just keep the units in metric. Mixing units between metric and US customary units, makes my head hurt. And by the way, are those tons? Are those metric, short, or long?
I'd like to point out a more general reason for the difference in blanket behavior between us and objects/substances: we're constantly generating heat. Objects usually aren't. The blanket traps the heat with us, so it accumulates and we specifically become warmer. But for objects, they reduce the movement of heat, so the object stays near whatever temperature it was previously.
Melting snow technically even generates cooling.
@@JamieElli nah. Cold isn't something that is generated. Not even by technicality.
@@JamieEllitechnically you just said a monstrosity.
He just means to say that the object has a tendency to not melt,
coz it causes "cold", or i guess endothermic is a better way to out it, which aims to refreeze it again.
Nah he means that the surrounding area gets colder when snow melts. That is a reason why ski races sometimes salt the run, so the top parts melt. The rest then stays colder and doesn’t melt. It is counter intuitive, but the energy for the melting “reaction” comes from the surrounding area. Therefore, taking that energy/heat away.
5:30 HAI has clearly been wronged by handheld sewing machines in the past, and needed to vent about it here for us.
Sam is just bitter because his mom does not allow him to touch one.
I will not tolerate the Celcius hating in this video
This! Celsius is fun!
Why? Just because Celsius makes more sense, is simpler, is more widely used, and is just all around better, doesn't mean it doesn't deserve some hate.
This: I stopped playing and unsubscribe.
@@Gamer3427 huh
@@Gamer3427 most of the metric system is objectively better than imperial systems, but Celsius isn't as strong of a case. If you need to do scientific measurements, you should be using Kelvins most of the time, not Celsius.
If a common person needs to boil water, they don't need to know it's at 100 C. They just heat the water til it boils.
Fahrenheit has two redeeming qualities. 1) 0 is super cold and 100 is super hot. Thats pretty intuitive. 2) 1 degree Fahrenheit is more specific than 1 degree celsius, which adds a bit more specificity in describing temperature.
Fahrenheit isn't objectively better than Celsius, but it's a bit more of a gray area on which is better, as compared to other Imperial vs metric systems comparisons.
1:01 Lesotho is in the southern hemisphere, so July is on the coldest part of the year.
Oregon isn't though.
Reverse-searched the image shown and found that 1. that photograph of the Lesotho ski resort WAS taken in July & 2. theres not much snowfall in those mountains so they use artificial snow in the winter. so technically nothing in that sentence was wrong.
He only said Oregon in July, Lesotho was mentioned just because they are too close to the equator for usual snow
That part of the world is a psy-op.
Kilowatts can't be "per hour". Power consumption is an instantaneous property. I guess you mean to say uses 23kW. So if you run it for an hour, that's 23kWh - kilowatt hours - of *energy* that you've used.
Mount Hood doesn't have snowmaking. They don't cover the snow with thermal blankets. Though they do salt the snow when grooming at night. This freezes the top layer.
Levi Finland is opening on October 4th with snow saved from last May.
Almost right. No snowmaking on Mt Hood, no blankets either, but they don’t salt at night while grooming. They do it first thing in the morning right before setting courses. (I know this because I used to do it)
Used to live and work there and wondering who told him we use snow guns on the apocalyptic section of palmer 😂
1:56 That's not what a kilowatt hour is, it doesn't use 23 kW of energy per hour, because Watts are a unit of power not energy. 23 kW means it uses 23 kiloJOULES of energy per second. A kilowatt hour is a measure of energy though, specifically it's the amount of energy that a 1kW device uses in an hour (which is 3.6MJ). So these guns use 23kW of POWER, which means that by definition each hour they use 23kWh, but at that point you may as well just call them 23kW machines as saying that they use 23kWh per hour is redundant.
Was about to say the same, it uses 23 kW or 23kWh per hour (which would be stupid to say because it's redundant)
I heard that and did a whole double take lol, had to pause and rewind to make any sense of what he said.
🤓
You beat me to it, I flew to the comments when he said that!
I felt itchy for a moment
You should do an episode on Snow Cats. I work with one of the manufacturers, Prinoth, and they are super interesting machines. Winch cats are particularly cool.
Hey why u calling me out 😮 ???
I love watching the snow cats get after it. I work on a ski mountain every winter. I'm determined to ride in one this winter. Would be bad ass.
1:58 kilowatts doesnt measure energy but power. You can't use kilowatts per hour, you can use, as the unit on screen indicates, kilowatthours per hour. The snowgun would thus use 23 kWh per hour which would be equivalent to a consumption of 82800 kilojoules per hour
U need to part of hai’s writers for the script lol
Yeah, kilowatt-hours per hour just cancels out to kilowatts lol
Or you could just say the gun has a power consumption of 23 kW
kWh per hour is just kW. So does each of these guns draw 23 kW when running? That seems like a lot for essentially running a fan, even including the energy to pump water (and maybe compress air, if those guns use compressed air) to feed the guns. Like about 30 HP continuous to run one gun?
Energy bills charge the customer per kWh. In my town, that’s 10¢ per kWh. If I ran a snow gun on my roof 24 hours a day for 30 days, I would expect a $1656 increase in my energy bill.
to everyone pointing out lesotho’s in the southern hemisphere: if you search that image you’ll see it was taken in july & that the article states it’s artificial snow. so nothing in that sentence was wrong, july may be winter there but doesn’t mean that afriski gets much snowfall
Missed a couple key points with man-made snow.
You can’t just shoot water into the air and expect to make snow. The water droplets will not freeze quick enough before hitting the ground. For that reason, compressed air is also used to help “nucleate” the water droplet. Droplet becomes more of a globe like an ornament, not a solid frozen bead.
Also, 28F for making snow is only true when using a wet bulb thermometer. Wet bulb factors in humidity. Amount of moisture in the air is extremely important when it comes to snow making. At 39F and 10% humidity, you can make snow. 20F and 100% humidity, you can’t make snow.
Side note, I’ve worked at a couple of ski areas in Michigan. Depending on the size of the ski area, snowmaking can cost $100k-$1M a day if running the guns wide open non-stop. When I worked at my local hill, it wasn’t uncommon for us to cause a brownouts when we were running full tilt.
A million a day? Sure thing bro.
@@bubbabigmin I was like ...what? myself.. I read an interview of the owner of SUgar Mtn in NC. 125 acres and tons of snowmaking...he said his budget for snow was 1.2 mill for the season...that was a few years ago so maybe 1.5 now....so how about $8 to 10k a day
Snow is also being stored in huge piles here in Trondheim, for cross-country skiing (World Championships coming winter). But it's not covered in those white blankets, it's covered in thick layers of sawdust. And some blankets on top of that to keep the rain out.
Yeah, same in various places just across the border from there in Jämtland, Sweden.
Just wondering, how do you clean that up?
@@joona4021 Good question, I don't really know how they separate the sawdust from the snow without messing up the snow. Maybe a thin layer of something under the sawdust? 🤷♂
The fact you didn't send Amy out on a ski trip to confirm the effectiveness of these measures is a travesty 😜
Casually destroys the fresh water table for an entire state. "It's ok rich people asked me to do it."
Desalination. Because if your making artificial snow, why not start with artificial water. And this won't increase the price that much.
@@donaldhobson8873 Yeah because famously ski resorts are located in seaside locations \s
The ski area I ski at pumps water from the river. The snow lays on the hills in the winter, and melts back into to river in the summer.
@@mnntropy5615 dude in the video they talk about them keeping snow through summer that water should be miles away by now.
My home resort of Copper usually uses the slab of summer snow for a terrain park (jumps and rails). The work that cat drivers put in to make it happen is truly insane. Absolute giga-chads
One mistake. Lesotho is in the southern hemisphere so it is winter in July and thus storing snow is not how they survive in July. 0:59
he was talking about Oregon in july
@@heisen-bones It's still a mistake though, just a different mistake. Timberline doesn't use artificial snow or snow storage. Mount Hood just naturally has snow year-round.
1:05 Mt hood resorts don't use snowmaking, Timberline has a single run open that is a glacier.
6:57 Good thing 4 x 0 = 0 hey? ;-)
lol the ski resorts here in Oregon usually have mtn biking, hiking and if you go to ski bowl they have an “alpine slide” which If you’re not careful can go fast enough to fly off of 😂
I got pretty messed up on that slide last year 😂
6:58 “We will quadruple our writer’s salary” good luck HAI 😂😂😂
not ruSSia moment
Video written by Ben Doyle.
Oh Ben 😅
@@gfrewqpoiu no
Amy's gotta make rent
Lmao good old HAI paying NYC wages for a remote job....whilst a lot of the other RUclipsrs who write scripts have outsourced them & pay people like $5 an hour
1:04 the information being given out is incorrect. When talking about Mt.Hood Oregon the picture shown is of the Palmer ski lift at Timberline lodge that is known for its summer skiing, this lift is on a naturally occurring snowfield. This lift is one of the most unique in North America because it was built on a glacier, since then the glacier has shrunk so much that it was reclassified as a snowfield.
I have lived and worked on this about 6 years now, our snow is 100% naturally occurring! Love the video
Artificial snow guns were also used by firefighters at the Heavenly Ski Resort to stop the Caldor fire from burning down South Lake Tahoe in 2021
Had a feeling I recognised who wrote this episode from the tone. And I was right - Ben
Ben's wife's boyfriend approves of this video.
1:56 HAI said 23 kW/hour which is a rate of power instead of rate of energy. The units on the screen are also confusing showing a unit of energy 23kWh, but still not power. What should be said is 23 kW or 23kWh/h.
0:20 I used to ski outside when there was no snow on a fancy thing called a dryslope, I'm sure it's much more cost effective than this.
1:06 That is Timberline lodge at Mt Hood Oregon. The lift pictured is Palmer lift. It doesn’t open during the winter season not due to lack of snowmaking but due to too much snow. That lift is usually only open during the summer for skiing on Palmer glacier. This had nothing to due with the statement he is making during this clip.
That ski resort in Alabama isn't far from Valley Head, AL which is always the coldest place in the state. As pointed out, they can make snow when it is cold but no one attempts to maintain the snow unless it stays below 32F. Cloudmont Ski Resort 721 Co Rd 614, Mentone, AL 35984. Also the home of Riverview Camp for Girls, and Nature's Classroom atop Lookout Mountain.
Oregon goes through August actually, and without snow making! It's less and less every year though, and someday the hundreds of tons of salt they put on that glacier a summer is going to come back to haunt us...
In my hometown Rovaniemi, Finland, the snow is stored for the ski resort but also for the cross country skiing. It is a big deal around here because skiing is an important sport and hobby around here. One year some local skiers were almost violently hostile when the city didn't open the early ski route on late October because of economic reasons.
So yeah, in Finland we store snow to open ski resorts early but also to keep local people happy.
0:22 Cool shot of Borovets you've got there Sam
1:03 why Oregon catch a stray
Oregon in July (and August) = Mt. Hood Timberline Lodge Ski area. The summer snow is partially farmed, but not man-made.
Turn the Arctic into a ski resort! Ice sheet and glacier melting solved👍
6:40 not sure why the wood chips is mentioned. That would be less economically, harder to install where needed logistically, would need a water repellent plastic barrier anyway, and would need a second sealed plastic barrier to avoid getting wood chips on the precious snow ❄️
Not really, the snow is covered with about 50-100cm of sawdust at my local skiing place and they keep very well. No plastic barriers are needed.
Mt Hood does not have snowmaking or blankets. Just lots and lots of natural snow.
Im so happy you included davos because thats where I go sking ever year but its normally used for the cross country skiing and not the actual mountain because its snows more than enough there and is snow secure until 2050. They've been doing this strategy for a long time now.
I wonder what the environmental impact would be of using those blankets on glaciers to try stabilizing them...
- We're losing snow due to climate change.
- Not a big deal, we can create artificial snow by using a lot of energy. And also accelerating climate change.
Not a big deal. We can get our energy from renewables instead.
This sort of stuff shows the extent to which modern humans can outright reject natures weather and substitute their own.
Love to see Sam informing temperatures in both degrees C(orrect) and F(reaking hell!!)
1:07 July in Lesotho is the dead of winter
Lol
3:00 I did expect this footage to appear in the video, but the context is actually absoultely wrong. This was shot on a yearly Grelka Fest in Sheregesh ski resort, Russia and (a) they don't use snow guns there at all, (b) it always happens in mid-April, when the natural snow is still intact and air temperature is high enough for cold-tolerant people to ski in bikinis and (c) Kemerovo oblast in the deep of Siberia, where Sheregesh is located definitely isn't "getting warmer year-round" round now. So, booo, HaI, bad-bad fact checking
Hey Half as Interesting Writers keep trying maybe one day he won’t catch it fast enough.
They should run a little faster, as Sam keeps catching them.
Could those blankets be used to slow down the melting polar regions?
Damn rich people don't give a shit about anything huh
I like the shade being thrown at skiing in this video tbh. Such a huge environmental impact for a source of entertainment that can leave you brain dead if you do it wrong.
I'm just happy that my favorite RUclipsr seems to enjoy portmanteaus as much as I do.
6:48 Jokes on the writers: The international Ski Community will increase the salaries of their writers. Not HAI.
3:08 -HAI making up another word called skeason lol 😂😂😂-
I'm not sure what is more amazing: snow being stored over the summer outside or that Alabama has a ski resort.
Alabama freaked out last time I was there over a little bit of snow on the road. The idea of them having ski resorts confuses me
I’m glad you acknowledged that hand held sewing machines will self destruct if you slightly look at them wrong😂😂 as soon as you said that’s what was used I’m like, oh they must have some purpose made ones because they’re not really designed the best, even on a commercial level, they’re really just more of an in pinch machine not something I’d expect to be used for sewing snow blankets under less than ideal conditions.
If you wanna ski in July, come to Australia 😁
How do you use that little power in july? I live by myself in a small one bedroom apartment and use more power than that on air conditioning while I am asleep.
@3:00 What's with swimsuit in the snow ? 😂
Pplr massochists
Probably summer skiing.
Spring skiing conditions. Every ski resort in the northern hemisphere encourages it in April/May, the last few days of the ski season.
That's yearly Grelka Fest in Sheregesh ski restort, Russia in mid-April. They've been doing it for years
Spring skiing. Plenty of people doing this in Colorado the last few weeks of the season in late April and May
I looked at making a DIY snow maker when I liked in CT. The tech is really simple - it is a fan, a pressure washer, and a air compressor - all if which I had. So, what stopped me? As it turns out, you can only make snow when both the temperature and humidity are low and I noticed that most of the times when I wanted to make snow, the the conditions would not let me make snow even if I had a snow maker.
Never thought I would see Oregon get mentioned
so then the slopes that get blanketted can't be used for skiing once they are covered. so if it takes 3 months then you lose the 3 months of skiing. so either you get it done faster at the end of winter before it gets too warm or you lose use time in winter.
I didn’t even know storing snow was a thing. Learned something new.
You say that snow guns won't work above freezing, however that's not true: "Snow machines can function at air temperatures as high as 40°F (4.4°C) with appropriate humidity levels." - i believe it works based on evaporational cooling.
I was really surprised to see a familiar place in footage 2:49 of snow machines working. this resort isn’t really popular, and moreover is located in eastern part of russia. i wonder how you found this videos and choose them
In Canmore Ab Canada they just burry a big pile of snow under saw dust and spread it around end of October. However it is nordic skiing.
1:54 killowatts of energy per hour is not a valid measurement, did you mean kilowatt hours per hour? Thats equal to just being 23 kw
For timberline they have snow cats everyday packing the snowfield up at the Palmer ski lift, even in the middle of the winter at before sun rise I watch the snow cats go up and down packing the snow, because I like to get there a little early and pregame
Me listening to the snow machines : Yeah that's expensive, but I can make snow at my home?!!!!
Hearing that they don't work above freezing : Awwwwww
2:04 24kWh is also how much an electric car uses to travel 100km.
I was kind of vaguely curious about snow storage, but noped out amongst the long boring screed on snow-making equipment.
"23 kilowatts per hour" only Sam can give us this fine units of measurement
I go to Davos for a weekend every year to go skiing, I didn't know they store snow somewhere for next year^^
But I've seen the blanket to save snow at glaciers on other swiss mountains
The "foret montmorency" which is a research center for Université Laval in Quebec used to do the same thing but with sawdust.
3:47 I think its unfair to say FIS need to cancel so many races due to a lack of Snow. Thats just not true. Sölden and Zermatt were canceled due to the bad weather situation at race day.
You also mentioned that there is snowfarming for too early races. But is this really true ? Sölden Worldcup takes place in the end of october, but the skiresort is already open since early september 🤔. Same goes for Levi, worldcup is in november, skiresort opening is first weekend of october. This argument doesnt make too much sense for me.
1:02, Lesotho snow stay there in July because its winter in the south hemisphere...?
HAI is slowly becoming Wendover Light
In Davos they actually use woodchips instead of blankets and they store it in a deep Valley, where it is naturally quite cool even in summer
At sunlight we just make the dudes in the shop hike up and down the mountain with water bottles all night for free passes
The only downside of nebula- I still have to come to the YT vids sometimes, otherwise I don’t get vids like this recommended lol
Fahrenheit and the melting point of water are so random
...or cooking point... of course, because Fahrenheit just failed trying what Kelvin succeeded in... There's no other reason for Kelvin scale but this mistake.
Actually the drop in pressure/expansion of the liquid from the nozzles cooles it further, so in fact snowguns work above 0 degrees CELCIUS.
Great to see you use Celsius like the rest of the world❤️
I hope someday I can travel to a ski resort and learn to snowboard. If only it wasn’t so expensive :(
I WENT SKIING AT THAT ONE PLACE IN ALABAMA ONCE! It was bizarre, there was a green golf course at the bottom, and they had a pile of old ski rentals from other crappy reaorts (like Peoli Peaks) that appeared to go there for one last dying hurrah 😂 I skiied in jeans, as that felt appropriate...
Snow guns actually can work above freezing temperatures when adjusted correctly. I have seen them operate at up to 40F.
Before refrigeration, we had iceboxes, where ice was cut from frozen lakes and stored in insulated "icehouses" over the summer.
i love staring into stock images/photos
They heard of ice boxes and thought “yes. Incredible. Amazing. Let’s do it.”
Can a snow blanket run a few stirling engines in the flat artic in the summer?
I remember being a child: lawn water rations, shower flow reducers, dead tomato plants, yet somehow the golf courses were evergreen and the ski lodge opened no later than November.
A lot of those restrictions were rather performative. Most water goes to agriculture.
In finland they just use mountains of sawdust to insulate the snow during summer
the logistics of water for the snow machines is crazy too - most ski resorts build lakes just to store the water!
It's *not* fake snow! It's just artificially produced snow
It’s fake, it does not produce the fluffy “snowflake shaped” snow. It’s tiny ice shards. Riding on it/through it you know immediately cause it’s much harder packed and icyer. If you ride through a snow maker then a ton of tiny little ice dots. It’s not even fake snow, it’s tiny bits of ice
@@dundee2858 It's closer to snow than any to any other form of precipitation. Most natural snow is not in the form of pretty hexagonal flakes either. And it is produced in roughly the same manner as natural snow. Sure, it's fairly dense, but old snowpacks are also dense. So I guess the question is if ice on the ground that fell as snow 3 months ago is still snow or if it has transformed into something else. If it has, then it has effectively transformed into the same thing as artificially-produced snow.
@@EebstertheGreat yea you can argue about how "it's closer to snow than any other precipitation" but at the end of the day it's not snow, it is literally tiny drops of ice, that's just what it is and you can't spin it any other way, close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades
@@dundee2858 Snow is "literally tiny drops of ice."
@@EebstertheGreat my fucking guy, have you ever seen snow before? I am Canadian I know what know is and looks like. Snow is defined as “ atmospheric water vapour frozen into ice CRYSTALS (not droplets you might notice) and falling in light white flakes. I’m not sure if you’re from a place that doesn’t have snow but we get it all the time and I have also been snowboarding for 7 years in eastern Ontario, home of the snow maker in Canada. I’m sorry but you are wrong in every sense of the word, I’m not sure if this is a troll or a bot at this point but I’ll say it one more time real slow. Snow is crystals of ice forming in the atmosphere, fake snow is tiny ice droplets forming 5 meters above the ground. It is not true, real snow
Finland mentioned🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮
I want Amy to be a competitor on Jet Lag.
Bro the music is...um...an interesting choice.
why do you hate celsius that much?
Taste bad🎉
Because using water's freezing and boiling point at a certain atmospheric pressure is too much difficulty.
Much easier to use frozen and liquid water and amonium chloride as 0 and some random guy in the 18th century's blood
It's a joke Americans make out our own expense. Despite claims to the contrary most of us understand most metric units. We learn them all in school, and use them for enough things.
Almost no Americans though can think in Celsius as applied to weather. We lack the benchmarks to just know what any particular temperature "feels" like.q
@@gregoryshipley4637 q
It's cringe
Skiing is probably the most "global north" thing I can think of, in every sense of the phrase
people ski in chile
3:46 -in fairness one of those races was cancelled because the resort's staff housing burnt down. (Lake Louise)
It’s pretty on brand that the only time rich people care about albedo is when it inconveniences their entertainment.
1:59 -kWh are a unit of power not energy. Power is already energy over time, and so to say “23 kWh/h” doesn’t make much sense.-
Edit: whoops kW (kilowatts) is power kWh (kilowatt hours) is energy. He still said kilowatts and saying 23kWh/h still doesn’t make much sense as the units would cancel out to 23kW.
I guess it uses 23 kW.
But, that kind of mistake is disappointing.
kWh is a unit of energy, kW is a unit of power, because watts are energy * time, and watt hours are energy * time * time, you are left with energy
@@HK417A1 yeah I realized that just after I posted my comment and added an edit, but unfortunately the edit is cut off, and people have to click to see it. I’ve edited my comment again to cross out the original comment.
Damn #withinaminute cheers from finland
Always more skiing content!
Just keep the units in metric. Mixing units between metric and US customary units, makes my head hurt. And by the way, are those tons? Are those metric, short, or long?
skiing content is the best keep it up
This was a perfect excuse to send Outside Correspondent Amy to go slide down a mountain at company expense.
It really manmade snow, not artificial. It is still just frozen water, just like natural snow. The flakes though are formed differently.