_Coming in clutch just as alot of people were about to pull the trigger on the Sledge Sale!_ *_Loving both the new body colors!!! LFG ARRRRRRMMMAAAAA!_*
Yeah I know a lot of people are going to feel polarized by the new colors but personally anything that isn't the normal red green blue black blah blah is good
More has changed than I initially thought. I think this is a very interesting release. Added to my wish list. Thanks for the in-depth overview. Awesome as always.
Okay I’m not a fan of any company, I got em all and they’re all great, but what got into Arrma? It’s like… they’re actually listening to us! 😱 Arrma has been blowing my mind lately
I just ordered the V6 Notorios 6s ☺️ a buddy really wanted my 4s Outcast off of me and ever since I sold it, I miss it A LOT! Lol. I never had a RC that did flawless backflips and stunts and it was addicting!
Arrma really stepping it up, they surprised us with the Gorgon and never let up since. Now if they would just get around to making a good servo saver for their 3s and 4s lineup, it'll be a perfect 2024 for them.
I'll tell you the kraton is hands down my favorite rc truck of all time. It holds a special place for me because 4-5 years ago i only had a few rcs, (granite, typhon 3s, cheetah, dhk maximus) and the kraton was my first big 1/8th and i remember opening that box and blown away how big it was in person and a real deal metal, hobby grade rc. Then i drove it and was even more impressed! Its a true beast! Now i got about 20+ and its still my favorite! (Kraton exb current kraton)
I slept on the K6 for awhile because I had a Talion and K8 but damn I love this truck! It’s plenty big and plenty fast and doesn’t have the running costs an 8S does (wheels and tire budget is a real thing…) My go to basher , I always bring my K6 and Mojave4 when I want to have a good time without any drama
The k6 and most 1/8 scale truggy style trucks really strike the perfect balance. Until now the Kagama was the best at that balance but I think this at least comes very close to it. It doesn't handle quite as well but it has other advantages
@ I actually bought a jato4x4 lol and I’m actually impressed by it for once, severely underpowered but something feels right about it when I’m driving brought a smile lol
@RCBasherLiMa, it's the Traxxas name that has you smiling when you're driving it. Just imagine for a second if the name behind that 8th scale 25mph top speed buggy was Haiboxing or Wltoys would you have bought it for darn near $400
@ don’t get me wrong I love traxxas, but realize the same plastic crap and double the price, and put a stupid bl2s system with a tq radio it’s just a slap in the face.
HOLY COW. Arrma have really outdone themselves here. This is precisely why I prefer Arrma over some brands. And most importantly, they're really giving extremely high expectations for the next version of the Kraton EXB. Although I do prefer the standard red and black scheme that Arrma has.
I would be surprised if we didn't see an EXB 2.5 at some point. It likely doesn't make sense for them to keep building the current one with the legacy parts.
very nice Arrma. They have been listening. The 223s upgrades and the upgrades here and w the Notoriuous are exactly where they needed it. Servo and servo savers mostly! Lol
My new Arrma EXB V2 RTR is only 2 weeks old, I got a really great deal on it. The aluminum braces, SR6200 RX, and bulkheads are well worth the $100 IMO. I suspect a Kraton EXB V3 will soon be announced with the clipless body, and new hubs. That will likely mean a higher price. I'm not sold on Arrma's clipless design, but will add the new battery strap to mine.
Great video mate. Does that mean that if you vhange body postes on the V5 to V6 can you use the clip less body? Also, would you have any recommendations for Imoltion shocks for the Voza Buggy? Cheers
You will probably also need to swap out the shock towers because the new body mounts use different holes. Especially the rear is different. When doing that you might also have to replace the rear wing mount as I think the updated shock tower doesn't work with the old wing mount.
I just had an EXB delivered.. paid 575$ out the door. 🎉 Saw this the next day. Even still I think the bulkheads, better towers, etc on EXB is well worth the extra. But they closed a gap for sure. Great deal if you don't want or need the better aluminum parts. Great video and breakdown! Subscribed!❤
I just love arrma so much 😂 didn't even know this was coming out and it pretty much addressed any little issues I've ever had with the V5 notorious. Still really am in love with the beautiful aluminum bulkheads on the newest EXB so it would be a tough choice honestly!
I had a Kr8ton EXB V1 1/5 and it was a beast, and this 6s version looks tougher than that one holy heck !!!! just by looking at this non-EXB version hints at the next iteration cant wait for that one…great vid man as always
@@DoRCany of the 6s line bought recently will have the v2 electronics. I picked up an extra Infraction during the big beginning of summer sales and it has the gray electronics in it.
Great looking truck! Glad they did something about the pillow ball system and I’m definitely a fan of the black shocks and hubs! I don’t like all the red anodized stuff my Arrma vehicles! I’m not a fan of the color but a can of your favorite paint will take care of that! Great review! I love how you actually take the truck apart to show the upgrades in detail! Keep up the great work!
Omgsh you have done it again sir! Amazing and thorough review. I haven’t seen anyone went through like this on RUclips. You were doing us a great favor so thank you. That was my reaction and thoughts that this thing was going to be 450 and up exactly to get Arrma typhon BLX level. I’d argue and argue on other channels, and they literally brushed me off and say like this thing will do amazing and…Bla bla
I have been watching your videos for a while now, I have for sure subscribed, I do have a RC channel myself, but I love the approach you have going part by part and taking it apart to talk about the specs, you are doing something unique and for sure lots of work behind recording and editing all of that! Great job, I really enjoy watching it I like a lot your work!!!
Fantastic truck, dude! Amazing bashing and review!!! 😃 Later I'm going to watch the MJX v2 review, I'm really curious about it! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I’m SO FUCKING GLAD they’re throwing a lot of the reg K6 parts to the new V2 parts. Mainly because that means I don’t have to pay 1.5-2x the price to upgrade my V1 EXB. Thank god. So, I’m assuming, now, that all the old parts are gonna get clearanced and the new ones will hopefully be around the price of the old ones. Gonna try to spread the word about em as much as possible. For a bit, the new EXB shocks were damned near $140 a set. LOVE YOU ARRMA. Also, great vid man. It’s been so fun seeing you grow from running Banggood specials to grabbing the newest/hottest shit out. Being able to do that and having the funds to do it is gonna continue to grow the channel biiggg. I already find myself ONLY watching your stuff when I have time and I don’t even know wtf talbot’s been up to for the last 4 months. Keep killing it, brother. Hope the family’s doing great.
The removal of the word Wrench at the last part, it's almost like putting on a medal on someone. 🎉❤. I just bought Proline Badlands tires for my Traxxas Sledge, but guess they're going onto this Kraton this Christmas. 😂
Looks really nice, I've been wanting a kraton for ages now. For some reason the kraton 4s v2.5 speaks to me more than the 6s. Did you ever end up trying one?
Have they upgraded the LSD sun gears with the X in the back for the output shaft/pin? On my EXB (guessing v1) roller, I kept blowing those gears out without having LSD plates in it. The X part of the gear would essentially shear off the gear, then chew up the pins. I wanted mine to be open diffs, so I got the arrma shim kit for that and then blew out the rear diff 3 bash sessions in a row. I now have arrma alloy 2 piece cups, M2C out drives, 2 small LSD plates on the back of each sun gear to support the X and one large LSD plate in the cup/gear to make up the difference. So far, that has held up to the max6g2/4990-1650kv with 20T pinion. But I had changed the diffs all to that setup when I had the older max6v3/4985-1650kv with 20T as that's what I put in my roller pretty early on. Wonder if they will krank out an EXB with all these updates on it. I haven't looked to see what the exb's offer now. Mine was the older cheap roller with plastic bulkheads. I ended up with m2c chassis anyway after taco'ing the "exb" one early on.
Once again top notch. Don’t have an 1/8th scale. Going to give this one a shot eventually. Good job. Can’t wait to see more on this from Do RC! Stay safe. 🏁🏁🏎️🏎️😎
Looks great! You know 1/8 scale is the best sized large basher. 1/5 is to big unless you build all plastic like the xmaxx and it can fail too. Otherwise they destroy themselves due to size, larger wheels and weight. I am still partial to the buggy style chassis plate.
Very tough. The Kagama is slightly cheaper and I think handles slightly better but I think this might just barely have the edge in durability and definitely has the edge in aftermarket support and ease of replacement parts purchasing. It's not hard to get TC parts but you can't go get them at your LHS. Ultimately I would just look at the two and buy whichever one you think is cooler. I don't think you'll be disappointed either way
Great review. I wonder if a gorilla tape shroud on the inside of the body around the body post would help keep the grit out or some foam over the whole thing. 🤔
glad arrma on point with you for reviews . I don’t have skid plate on rear on purpose , I look at it as the 200k mark if were a real car 🚗. It’s had its life 😂 . It’s time to run kratons again almost forget it’s the ultimate basher . With good driving skills it pushes the limits . I wish I had you as a neighbor so we can talk about those exb diffs . Those look better without the plates . Comes down to I don’t mind if I strip a sun gear ⚙️ after a bunch a packs it’s tunning them in general . I can do my typhon diffs in my sleep , always use the gears till bulkheads are bad . Tbh I think I just got the early editions and I’m not patient enough to tune them properly. I would simply put
That’s pretty slick they give all the tools including that sweet old school nitro wrench While I’ve always loved the arrma brand I almost always have diff issues fairly frequently even when shimmed Glad to see a company stepping up the wheel bearings is a sweet touch. I’d like to know if those are stainless bearings as they normally see water frequently and tend to get worn out quickly I’ve always stuck to the formula of buying a truck from used as I tend to pick them up cheaper then retail and they usually have some “gingerbread” already (upgraded parts ) I only wish my traxxas cars performed like the arrma ones do in the air They seem to always do great with acrobatics where jumping my revo x max slash Rusty’s always tend to be tougher to control My rally seems to nose dive off every jump and I have one old vxl one and a newer brushed style one that’s been upgraded (honestly the difference is wider a arms and supporting parts esc combo and body style ) while my slash jumps ok it doesn’t do many flips ect Great review
No I don't believe these are stainless steel bearings. The EXB differentials are definitely a lot better than the old BLX ones. I heard plenty of people have problems with both though. My own personal experience has been really good. I think I've only killed a few over the years and I've had a lot of them. It's always weird how one person's experience can be wildly different from another's in this hobby.
Thanks so in depth. I've been searching for this type of review for a while! Subscribed and bell activated! Thanks. BTW I have the 6s V5 blx, and it's giving me hell as I am new to the ec world, but I enjoyed your video immensely.
@DoRC since my brother ran it through the woods, the first day seems like I've been replacing parts. That & then theres the bolts striping from having to keep replacing parts
@melvincherry5061 ah. Yeah those are pretty common breakage points. The tie rods have been improved on this version but the arms unfortunately are the same. I guess everything has to have a weak point though.
This truck looks awesome and extremely durable. The speed and control looked great. I should try an Arrma, I tend to steer toward Losi and MJX. Speaking of MJX, PLEASE go have a look at their newest 1/10th offering, I think you'll be surprised. I would like to have the motor just for my H8H 😅
@DoRC it's the V2 of their 1/10th basher. It now has a 3970 2500kv motor with a metal center diff, adjustable upper links, 100amp esc, 7.4v @ 13amp! It's 249 pre-order I think
I just bought a v5 2 months ago... This would have saved me a lot of money. I bought the exb shock caps a 7075 chassis, rpm rear skid, rpm bumper, center 2 piece brace, servo saver, hubs with bigger bearings and I hated the all the red aluminum lol.... I think the only thing (aside from the hideous color scheme) is that they used 29mm version diff cups. I like the 31mm cup. Wonder how the weight compares to the old v5
The EXB diff gears generally are considered to be stronger but the normal ones are fine too. I looked at it compared to the EXBV2 and it's very slightly heavier. I expect it to also be very slightly heavier than the old V5
@DoRC Yea I think it's just the cups themselves that are worse. But the aftermarket exb cups fix that issue. I found it odd the new Notorious is about half pound heavier than the new Kraton
I think it just barely edges the kagama out in durability but I think the Kagama handles a little bit better. TC is kind of unrivaled when it comes to handling.
Some nice changes! Hmm, these updates have me wondering if I should get this over the Kraton 4s (still plan to run 4s)? I suspect there will be V3 Kraton 4s releasing with this new clipless design as well, hopefully with an updated servo saver too..decisions, decisions. BTW it looked like the sway bar link in the rear on the LHS was popped off or broken.
It popped off. They do it all the time on really nasty landings. It'll pop right back on again though every time it pops off it'll be easier the next time.
7075 chassis being standard is putting a lot of pressure on traxxas. And honestly, it always should’ve been standard. If redcat was able to do 4mm 7075 over a year ago for 500
Great Video my friend! Sadly, its again an old car. But the new pivot ball lockers looks quite interessting, could you please make a future video and show exactly how they work?
I pretty much showed it in This video. There's not much to it. The pillow ball goes through from the outside just like on the old style and then the cap goes behind it with four screws to hold the cap in. That's it.
The Kagama handles a little bit better but I would say this is probably slightly more durable and of course for anything horizon's going to kill with upgradeability and parts support
Love arrma,I have and build so many kratons that I know the platform really well bit why Arrma do this same v5 now v6 whit the exb stuff means almost all the stuff for a little less,Happy that u got it because u make great content but me I Pass,I will keep one of my v5 XL build,Blessings to you all out there
Finally they got rid of all the red anodized paint! Not a fan of the body color but other than that everything looks great for the price! Arrma always improves their trucks instead of calling it an EXTREME VERSION and charge another $100 for nothing! I also got a kick out of the “Real 65mph” dig at Trax-ass! Really cool how you open it up for us to see what’s new!
The shocks should not have air left in them they have vacuum cavities when not fully compressed. push them fully down some oil should come from the bleed hole then replace the screw. Your method will insure every shock is slightly different and very inconsistent.
These emulsion style shocks actually operate by design with some air in them. Because they don't have bladders there has to be a little bit of air in there to compress. The emulsion name itself denotes this because it's running on an emulsion of air and oil. Obviously you don't want a ton of air but a little bit is fine. As far as the consistency you're right I definitely could have made the more consistent but at least in my experience with emulsion style shocks for bashing it doesn't really make much difference.
Idk if I missed it but what outdrive cups on the diffs are they the older ones or what came with the bigrock and EXB v2 Disappointing they didn't give us a dx3
I believe most of it will be compatible though you'll probably need to either modify your shock towers or get the updated ones in order for the holes to be in the right place for the body mounts
Man, this thing is awesome! I really wanted the kraton EXB v2, but now looking at this - I guess I wanna buy the v6 kraton, looking at how good it performs P.S. this body is absolutely beautiful with its colour scheme and clipless system 🔥
I think it'll fit but you will probably have to at least get the rear shock tower as the holes are different. You could maybe drill holes if you have the right equipment.
Yeah they're definitely making up for lost time. For a while there wasn't much and now they're going crazy! I expect things to slow down eventually though
You don’t have to have the newest model released. Specially if you are upgrading your own servo or servo saver or putting a better fan or customizing. Upgrading for clipless body is not worth it for me specially with my horrible Grom clipless experiences in dirt.
I wish they would at least throw some front LEDs on. It's almost 2025 all these hobby rade trucks should come with front and rear LEDs. Even the Amazon specials have front LEDs
Yeah I guess that just depends on personal opinion. I generally don't care about lighting and will often disconnect them just to get them out of my way but it is nice to have as an option. I do think if they're going to do it though they need to do it right and make them nice and bright.
I just gave you like 5 new views, always love your videos and this was the best yet (maybe because I’m an arrma fanboy). Can’t wait for you to finally say if you’re team Kraton or team kagama with these new updates.
That's a tough one. I think the two cars now are very similar in performance but obviously anything coming from Horizon is going to have better aftermarket support and better LHS support. I think that just barely gives it the edge.
How is the motor not overheating on a 16t pinion? I'd say they really did something crazy with the ESC if its getting 67 mph out of the box from another youtuber. The pillow ball suspension change has me thinking... why didn't they just scrap it for links? The pillow ball design is kind of unnecessary since nobody races these. Every other change looks solid and hopefully the diff outdrives are not cracking like the EXB ones. Funny I was eyeing up a Sledge until these dropped today.
The pillow ball design is pretty durable and fairly inexpensive which is probably why they're using it. Between the ESC changes and the heat sinking fan it's definitely working.
The EXB already has aluminum bulkheads which are superior to this. I suspect we'll see an EXBV 2.5 at some point with all their little updates this has such as the front knuckles etc
I wonder if the Mojave, Fireteam, Typhon, and Bigrock will get the same updates soon? 3 of those share the same chassis and i think the Typhon is on the Notorious chassis.
@DoRC looking forward to it! I can't stand these body colors though.. I hope they don't do these weird colors with the Mojave. Keep that for 3S and lower imo. 4S and bigger needs to be edgy and badass lol
Yeah there are reasons why things go on sale! But that doesn't take away from the BR6S being a great truck with a different driving experience compared to a K6S.
So fking excited about this and the new Kagama. Gonna pickup a new K6 roller for parts and the new Kagama. I have a type, I guess. Lately, I’ve been putting too much into a Mini B. Really been eyeballing that new Micro B, though.
Yeah the previous version had some harder plastic and these are really soft rubber. I think they did it for a little bit extra compliance but hard to know for sure
I have a v4 and this year I've had 4 broken bulkheads. I probably should have replaced the first one with a metal one but because I'm sick of working on it I've pushed it to the back of a cupboard.
@@DoRC I just can't warrant spending half a month's wages on a new version. Feels like a gamble. I'm thinking about getting a kagama or vorza s next year but I don't know what to go for.
Depends on What you mean by job. If you're asking if I make any money the answer is no. The channel isn't even monetized and I don't take affiliate kickbacks. This is a passion project for me as it allows me to interact with the world and talk to you guys :-)
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_Coming in clutch just as alot of people were about to pull the trigger on the Sledge Sale!_
*_Loving both the new body colors!!! LFG ARRRRRRMMMAAAAA!_*
Yeah I know a lot of people are going to feel polarized by the new colors but personally anything that isn't the normal red green blue black blah blah is good
@@DoRCwhen does this model release in store? I love the clipless body
More has changed than I initially thought. I think this is a very interesting release. Added to my wish list. Thanks for the in-depth overview. Awesome as always.
Yeah between the big stuff and the little stuff it's a huge list.
You're definitely making yourself the go-to guy for the best information 👍
Good to hear :-)
Info was unparalleled
this all year. wait, this, -all subscription-long.
@@rogueFactor :)
@@QZillasWorld plenty more to come!
Okay I’m not a fan of any company, I got em all and they’re all great, but what got into Arrma? It’s like… they’re actually listening to us! 😱 Arrma has been blowing my mind lately
Yeah they made some great changes here
I love how are you run on stock at first and then do upgrades. Shows the potential of upgrading.
Stay tuned we've got a bunch more coming!
I just ordered the V6 Notorios 6s ☺️ a buddy really wanted my 4s Outcast off of me and ever since I sold it, I miss it A LOT! Lol. I never had a RC that did flawless backflips and stunts and it was addicting!
I think you'll be pretty happy with it :-)
Arrma really stepping it up, they surprised us with the Gorgon and never let up since. Now if they would just get around to making a good servo saver for their 3s and 4s lineup, it'll be a perfect 2024 for them.
I agree. It is time for them to step up their game on that part
I'll tell you the kraton is hands down my favorite rc truck of all time. It holds a special place for me because 4-5 years ago i only had a few rcs, (granite, typhon 3s, cheetah, dhk maximus) and the kraton was my first big 1/8th and i remember opening that box and blown away how big it was in person and a real deal metal, hobby grade rc. Then i drove it and was even more impressed! Its a true beast! Now i got about 20+ and its still my favorite! (Kraton exb current kraton)
The 1/8 scale truggy really does strike the perfect balance of size mass and versatility
@DoRC Well said! Exactly buddy. 👌🏼🍻 So fast and handles great. It's exhilarating to drive! lol
I slept on the K6 for awhile because I had a Talion and K8 but damn I love this truck! It’s plenty big and plenty fast and doesn’t have the running costs an 8S does (wheels and tire budget is a real thing…)
My go to basher , I always bring my K6 and Mojave4 when I want to have a good time without any drama
The k6 and most 1/8 scale truggy style trucks really strike the perfect balance. Until now the Kagama was the best at that balance but I think this at least comes very close to it. It doesn't handle quite as well but it has other advantages
Everything nicely explained, strengths, weaknesses. Honest review is the best 👍
Best RC reviews, imo. 👍👌
Thanks Glad you enjoy it! We all have our biases but I try to be as fair as possible.
Traxxas take notes
There's definitely a lot to like here!
Traxxass would have put the BL2s system in it with plastic geared everything.
@ I actually bought a jato4x4 lol and I’m actually impressed by it for once, severely underpowered but something feels right about it when I’m driving brought a smile lol
@RCBasherLiMa, it's the Traxxas name that has you smiling when you're driving it. Just imagine for a second if the name behind that 8th scale 25mph top speed buggy was Haiboxing or Wltoys would you have bought it for darn near $400
@ don’t get me wrong I love traxxas, but realize the same plastic crap and double the price, and put a stupid bl2s system with a tq radio it’s just a slap in the face.
HOLY COW. Arrma have really outdone themselves here. This is precisely why I prefer Arrma over some brands. And most importantly, they're really giving extremely high expectations for the next version of the Kraton EXB. Although I do prefer the standard red and black scheme that Arrma has.
I would be surprised if we didn't see an EXB 2.5 at some point. It likely doesn't make sense for them to keep building the current one with the legacy parts.
for only 50$ more from the last gen with the EXB stuff seems like one hell of a deal liking where they are going with these 6s cars
Yeah they really surprised me with how much EXB stuff they put into this. It's a big improvement
very nice Arrma. They have been listening. The 223s upgrades and the upgrades here and w the Notoriuous are exactly where they needed it. Servo and servo savers mostly! Lol
Yeah they've definitely been hard at work
My new Arrma EXB V2 RTR is only 2 weeks old, I got a really great deal on it. The aluminum braces, SR6200 RX, and bulkheads are well worth the $100 IMO. I suspect a Kraton EXB V3 will soon be announced with the clipless body, and new hubs. That will likely mean a higher price. I'm not sold on Arrma's clipless design, but will add the new battery strap to mine.
Maybe a V3 or maybe just a v 2.5. We shall see.
Great video mate.
Does that mean that if you vhange body postes on the V5 to V6 can you use the clip less body?
Also, would you have any recommendations for Imoltion shocks for the Voza Buggy?
Cheers
You will probably also need to swap out the shock towers because the new body mounts use different holes. Especially the rear is different. When doing that you might also have to replace the rear wing mount as I think the updated shock tower doesn't work with the old wing mount.
I don't have any suggestions for vorza upgrades. HPI might actually make something
you deserve mooore then 25k subs , i really apreciate you taking time to show us what's new in the car , 16:19
btw , should i upgrade my esc also from my outcast 4s v2.5? do i need it? can i?
Glad you enjoy! The ESC that comes in the V2.5 is already pretty good. I don't think the firmware will cross over if that's what you were asking
I just had an EXB delivered.. paid 575$ out the door. 🎉 Saw this the next day. Even still I think the bulkheads, better towers, etc on EXB is well worth the extra. But they closed a gap for sure. Great deal if you don't want or need the better aluminum parts.
Great video and breakdown! Subscribed!❤
Yeah the EXB for 575 is a great deal!
@DoRC Under the tree it goes lol
I just love arrma so much 😂 didn't even know this was coming out and it pretty much addressed any little issues I've ever had with the V5 notorious. Still really am in love with the beautiful aluminum bulkheads on the newest EXB so it would be a tough choice honestly!
They definitely are shiny
I had a Kr8ton EXB V1 1/5 and it was a beast, and this 6s version looks tougher than that one holy heck !!!! just by looking at this non-EXB version hints at the next iteration cant wait for that one…great vid man as always
Yeah I suspect we'll see an EXB V2.5 at some point. It probably doesn't make sense for them to keep making the V2 with legacy parts.
Yeah they sold me at the bigger bearings for the rear and new reinforced wing mount, let alone all the other improvements, great review.
It's definitely got some good upgrades!
Ive been thinking of getting the 6s bigrock as my first 1/8th scale car mainly because i like how it looks but this has changed my mind completely
This is a much better value.
Was looking forward to your meticulous teardown! Looks like this is my next rig! Thanks for the upload!
Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching!
7:13 thanks for the heads up. I hope this applies to my typhon's ESC, I'll have to check
I'm not sure if it only applies to the V2 ESCs or if it will work with the older generation as well
@@DoRCany of the 6s line bought recently will have the v2 electronics. I picked up an extra Infraction during the big beginning of summer sales and it has the gray electronics in it.
I was just about to sell my Kraton 6s EXB v2 , I'll just add some of these updates to mine .
Best of both worlds!
Great looking truck! Glad they did something about the pillow ball system and I’m definitely a fan of the black shocks and hubs! I don’t like all the red anodized stuff my Arrma vehicles! I’m not a fan of the color but a can of your favorite paint will take care of that!
Great review! I love how you actually take the truck apart to show the upgrades in detail! Keep up the great work!
If you guys keep watching them I'll keep making them :-)
Omgsh you have done it again sir! Amazing and thorough review. I haven’t seen anyone went through like this on RUclips. You were doing us a great favor so thank you. That was my reaction and thoughts that this thing was going to be 450 and up exactly to get Arrma typhon BLX level. I’d argue and argue on other channels, and they literally brushed me off and say like this thing will do amazing and…Bla bla
Glad you enjoyed! I think it's a pretty good truck and priced fairly reasonably
@@DoRC sorry i think my youtube bugged out but the comment supposed to be for the mini maxx video
@@DoRC but all your videos are so informative
Really impressed with this video brother.... Great work
Thanks Glad you enjoyed!
I have been watching your videos for a while now, I have for sure subscribed, I do have a RC channel myself, but I love the approach you have going part by part and taking it apart to talk about the specs, you are doing something unique and for sure lots of work behind recording and editing all of that! Great job, I really enjoy watching it I like a lot your work!!!
Thanks! To be honest I'd be doing it even if I wasn't making the videos but it is great to hang out with you guys :-)
Fantastic truck, dude! Amazing bashing and review!!! 😃
Later I'm going to watch the MJX v2 review, I'm really curious about it!
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching!
Awesome performance and review bash!!! Your videos are always the best that are out there. Thanks!!!
Glad you enjoy!
Great review as usual! Keep up the great work. It’s on the wish list.
Thanks and thanks for watching!
This looks awesome. I can't wait to see the new Notorious v6. Should have most the same upgrades in a stunt truck package.
Yeah it's basically the same under the hood just with a shorter chassis
I’m SO FUCKING GLAD they’re throwing a lot of the reg K6 parts to the new V2 parts. Mainly because that means I don’t have to pay 1.5-2x the price to upgrade my V1 EXB. Thank god. So, I’m assuming, now, that all the old parts are gonna get clearanced and the new ones will hopefully be around the price of the old ones.
Gonna try to spread the word about em as much as possible. For a bit, the new EXB shocks were damned near $140 a set.
LOVE YOU ARRMA. Also, great vid man. It’s been so fun seeing you grow from running Banggood specials to grabbing the newest/hottest shit out. Being able to do that and having the funds to do it is gonna continue to grow the channel biiggg. I already find myself ONLY watching your stuff when I have time and I don’t even know wtf talbot’s been up to for the last 4 months.
Keep killing it, brother. Hope the family’s doing great.
Thanks man. I'm glad you enjoy and thanks for being here since early times!
The removal of the word Wrench at the last part, it's almost like putting on a medal on someone. 🎉❤. I just bought Proline Badlands tires for my Traxxas Sledge, but guess they're going onto this Kraton this Christmas. 😂
Badlands are awesome!
Looks really nice, I've been wanting a kraton for ages now. For some reason the kraton 4s v2.5 speaks to me more than the 6s. Did you ever end up trying one?
Yep. I've owned a couple. They are very good!
Looks nice. I got the v5 notorious and v1 exb roller. Do you think i could use the clip less bodies if i bought the mounting poles?
I think you would either need to modify your stock shock towers or buy the updated ones as I don't believe the holes are going to line up
Have they upgraded the LSD sun gears with the X in the back for the output shaft/pin? On my EXB (guessing v1) roller, I kept blowing those gears out without having LSD plates in it. The X part of the gear would essentially shear off the gear, then chew up the pins. I wanted mine to be open diffs, so I got the arrma shim kit for that and then blew out the rear diff 3 bash sessions in a row. I now have arrma alloy 2 piece cups, M2C out drives, 2 small LSD plates on the back of each sun gear to support the X and one large LSD plate in the cup/gear to make up the difference. So far, that has held up to the max6g2/4990-1650kv with 20T pinion. But I had changed the diffs all to that setup when I had the older max6v3/4985-1650kv with 20T as that's what I put in my roller pretty early on.
Wonder if they will krank out an EXB with all these updates on it. I haven't looked to see what the exb's offer now. Mine was the older cheap roller with plastic bulkheads. I ended up with m2c chassis anyway after taco'ing the "exb" one early on.
Not sure about the gears. I do expect that we will see a v 2.5 EXB at some point. It makes sense for them to update the parts that they have
Looks like they have the thicker fireteam , big rock hexes on there also
Yes I believe everything comes with those now.
Once again top notch. Don’t have an 1/8th scale. Going to give this one a shot eventually. Good job. Can’t wait to see more on this from Do RC! Stay safe. 🏁🏁🏎️🏎️😎
I don't think it would disappointed. It's a pretty awesome truck
Looks great! You know 1/8 scale is the best sized large basher. 1/5 is to big unless you build all plastic like the xmaxx and it can fail too. Otherwise they destroy themselves due to size, larger wheels and weight. I am still partial to the buggy style chassis plate.
Yeah 1/8 scale really strikes a good balance between size and mass.
@DoRC Agreed. I was primarily 8th scale early on then ventured off into most other scales.
Looks like some great updates! Praying that they are doing the same with the Mojave since they got rid of the EXB version
I'm sure we'll see some sort of updated Mojave eventually.
Which do you think performed better and more durable (or just overall prefer), this kraton 6s version, or the kagama 6s? Thx if could answer
Very tough. The Kagama is slightly cheaper and I think handles slightly better but I think this might just barely have the edge in durability and definitely has the edge in aftermarket support and ease of replacement parts purchasing. It's not hard to get TC parts but you can't go get them at your LHS.
Ultimately I would just look at the two and buy whichever one you think is cooler. I don't think you'll be disappointed either way
Great review. I wonder if a gorilla tape shroud on the inside of the body around the body post would help keep the grit out or some foam over the whole thing. 🤔
I don't think so. One thing I've learned in this hobby is that it is nearly impossible to actually seal out the fine particulate dust.
Really impress by this new version, more powerful and tougher than ever :)
Yeah she's a tank
Sick!!! Do you have the notorious as well???
I don't but under the hood they're going to be pretty much identical other than chassis length.
glad arrma on point with you for reviews . I don’t have skid plate on rear on purpose , I look at it as the 200k mark if were a real car 🚗. It’s had its life 😂 . It’s time to run kratons again almost forget it’s the ultimate basher . With good driving skills it pushes the limits . I wish I had you as a neighbor so we can talk about those exb diffs . Those look better without the plates . Comes down to I don’t mind if I strip a sun gear ⚙️ after a bunch a packs it’s tunning them in general . I can do my typhon diffs in my sleep , always use the gears till bulkheads are bad . Tbh I think I just got the early editions and I’m not patient enough to tune them properly. I would simply put
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You do a better job than the arrma website or video.. they advertised none of the 70% upgrades they did.
Yeah I was actually very surprised to see most of the stuff that was in here as well. Maybe they don't consider it upgrades I'm not sure.
i have the same thing happen with my arrma fury with the body sticking when sand gets into the post
Yeah I think it's going to be pretty common with this setup.
Best review out there! Do you know if the new hubs and front knuckles will be compatible with the old kar?
I havent actually tried it but I don't see why they wouldn't be.
@DoRC yeah, if they use the same arms and shock towers all the updated parts should bolt right on including using the new body system
Awesome! Some good updates and the price is reasonable 👍😉
Yeah I think for everything you're getting it's fairly priced
That’s pretty slick they give all the tools including that sweet old school nitro wrench
While I’ve always loved the arrma brand I almost always have diff issues fairly frequently even when shimmed
Glad to see a company stepping up the wheel bearings is a sweet touch. I’d like to know if those are stainless bearings as they normally see water frequently and tend to get worn out quickly
I’ve always stuck to the formula of buying a truck from used as I tend to pick them up cheaper then retail and they usually have some “gingerbread” already (upgraded parts )
I only wish my traxxas cars performed like the arrma ones do in the air
They seem to always do great with acrobatics where jumping my revo x max slash Rusty’s always tend to be tougher to control
My rally seems to nose dive off every jump and I have one old vxl one and a newer brushed style one that’s been upgraded (honestly the difference is wider a arms and supporting parts esc combo and body style ) while my slash jumps ok it doesn’t do many flips ect
Great review
No I don't believe these are stainless steel bearings. The EXB differentials are definitely a lot better than the old BLX ones. I heard plenty of people have problems with both though. My own personal experience has been really good. I think I've only killed a few over the years and I've had a lot of them. It's always weird how one person's experience can be wildly different from another's in this hobby.
Thanks so in depth. I've been searching for this type of review for a while! Subscribed and bell activated! Thanks. BTW I have the 6s V5 blx, and it's giving me hell as I am new to the ec world, but I enjoyed your video immensely.
What issues are you having with the V5?
@DoRC since my brother ran it through the woods, the first day seems like I've been replacing parts. That & then theres the bolts striping from having to keep replacing parts
@melvincherry5061 which parts specifically are you replacing?
Replaced suspension arm tie rods and servo. Then replaced the sprocket from 12t to 15t
@melvincherry5061 ah. Yeah those are pretty common breakage points. The tie rods have been improved on this version but the arms unfortunately are the same. I guess everything has to have a weak point though.
Awesome! Thanks for the in depth review 👍
Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching :-)
This truck looks awesome and extremely durable. The speed and control looked great. I should try an Arrma, I tend to steer toward Losi and MJX. Speaking of MJX, PLEASE go have a look at their newest 1/10th offering, I think you'll be surprised. I would like to have the motor just for my H8H 😅
Are you talking about the 112 scale crawler?
@DoRC it's the V2 of their 1/10th basher. It now has a 3970 2500kv motor with a metal center diff, adjustable upper links, 100amp esc, 7.4v @ 13amp! It's 249 pre-order I think
I also found motor clamps to mount 40mm fans
I just bought a v5 2 months ago... This would have saved me a lot of money. I bought the exb shock caps a 7075 chassis, rpm rear skid, rpm bumper, center 2 piece brace, servo saver, hubs with bigger bearings and I hated the all the red aluminum lol.... I think the only thing (aside from the hideous color scheme) is that they used 29mm version diff cups. I like the 31mm cup. Wonder how the weight compares to the old v5
The EXB diff gears generally are considered to be stronger but the normal ones are fine too.
I looked at it compared to the EXBV2 and it's very slightly heavier. I expect it to also be very slightly heavier than the old V5
@DoRC Yea I think it's just the cups themselves that are worse. But the aftermarket exb cups fix that issue. I found it odd the new Notorious is about half pound heavier than the new Kraton
Awesome video like usual. What's that little ramp you were launching it from? Is it homemade?
No it's made by PNW RC madness. It's a great ramp. I did have to reskin it once but I've used and abused it a lot and it keeps working
Question, can it beat the Kagama 6s regarding performance as well as durability wise?
I think it just barely edges the kagama out in durability but I think the Kagama handles a little bit better. TC is kind of unrivaled when it comes to handling.
Some nice changes! Hmm, these updates have me wondering if I should get this over the Kraton 4s (still plan to run 4s)? I suspect there will be V3 Kraton 4s releasing with this new clipless design as well, hopefully with an updated servo saver too..decisions, decisions. BTW it looked like the sway bar link in the rear on the LHS was popped off or broken.
It popped off. They do it all the time on really nasty landings. It'll pop right back on again though every time it pops off it'll be easier the next time.
7075 chassis being standard is putting a lot of pressure on traxxas. And honestly, it always should’ve been standard. If redcat was able to do 4mm 7075 over a year ago for 500
Yeah the 7075 chassis makes the biggest difference here.
Glad you got it.
I trust you vs the sell outs
And Razor ✌️
Curious. Sellouts like Kevin Talbot or other names?
Thanks!
@@chrisginoc anyone who has a warehouse full of merchandise, they know who they are.
@@UncleDon-q8lcouldn’t have said it better 👍
Great Video my friend! Sadly, its again an old car. But the new pivot ball lockers looks quite interessting, could you please make a future video and show exactly how they work?
I pretty much showed it in This video. There's not much to it. The pillow ball goes through from the outside just like on the old style and then the cap goes behind it with four screws to hold the cap in. That's it.
Once again Kenny great video. As far as the truck IMO the Kagama 6s is still a better truck.
The Kagama handles a little bit better but I would say this is probably slightly more durable and of course for anything horizon's going to kill with upgradeability and parts support
Love arrma,I have and build so many kratons that I know the platform really well bit why Arrma do this same v5 now v6 whit the exb stuff means almost all the stuff for a little less,Happy that u got it because u make great content but me I Pass,I will keep one of my v5 XL build,Blessings to you all out there
Yeah if you already have a bunch of them this one probably doesn't offer that much new but as an incremental update it's a good one
@DoRC that's true for sure,I just gonna watch what u have on store for it 🤣🤣I can't wait,Blessings my good man🙏🫡
RIGHT ON!!!! Thanks for the awesome breakdown!!
Thanks for watching!
Great video! That thing gets huge air!
I'm pretty sure it's the biggest air I've ever gotten off that small ramp and it did it effortlessly. Very impressive
Finally they got rid of all the red anodized paint! Not a fan of the body color but other than that everything looks great for the price! Arrma always improves their trucks instead of calling it an EXTREME VERSION and charge another $100 for nothing! I also got a kick out of the “Real 65mph” dig at Trax-ass! Really cool how you open it up for us to see what’s new!
Heck yeah! We got to see what they changed!
Who doesn't love standing backflips?!
In grass!
The shocks should not have air left in them they have vacuum cavities when not fully compressed. push them fully down some oil should come from the bleed hole then replace the screw. Your method will insure every shock is slightly different and very inconsistent.
These emulsion style shocks actually operate by design with some air in them. Because they don't have bladders there has to be a little bit of air in there to compress. The emulsion name itself denotes this because it's running on an emulsion of air and oil. Obviously you don't want a ton of air but a little bit is fine. As far as the consistency you're right I definitely could have made the more consistent but at least in my experience with emulsion style shocks for bashing it doesn't really make much difference.
Idk if I missed it but what outdrive cups on the diffs are they the older ones or what came with the bigrock and EXB v2
Disappointing they didn't give us a dx3
They are the ones on the EXB V2.
@ good to know
Is this compatible with v5/exb v1 versions? Really like the new bodies.
I believe most of it will be compatible though you'll probably need to either modify your shock towers or get the updated ones in order for the holes to be in the right place for the body mounts
Pretty dang cool, I’m really loving the new notorious also. Hope you review it also…
Not sure if I'm going to get one or not but it is nice!
I wish theyd offer a kit of parts to convert current v5s over. I literally just bought a v5 notorious this year.
That would be cool.
Great review. Looks like the v6 is the real deal.
It's very impressive
Man, this thing is awesome! I really wanted the kraton EXB v2, but now looking at this - I guess I wanna buy the v6 kraton, looking at how good it performs
P.S. this body is absolutely beautiful with its colour scheme and clipless system 🔥
I would probably buy this over the EXB at the moment!
Still making quality videos I see, keep it up, man! 👍
Will do you thanks for watching :-)
Can you tell us if that clipless body and mount can be installed to the Kraton V5?
I think it'll fit but you will probably have to at least get the rear shock tower as the holes are different. You could maybe drill holes if you have the right equipment.
@ Awesome!ty👍
The number of new rc releases this year is crazy, getting awfully expensive being in this hobby
Yeah they're definitely making up for lost time. For a while there wasn't much and now they're going crazy! I expect things to slow down eventually though
You don’t have to have the newest model released. Specially if you are upgrading your own servo or servo saver or putting a better fan or customizing. Upgrading for clipless body is not worth it for me specially with my horrible Grom clipless experiences in dirt.
Do you think enough has changed that it would be worth selling a EXB V2 for it?
Probably not. You can buy most of the changes that are improvements here for probably not much money and just put them on the EXPv2.
Very good catching all the details
Thanks! Hope I didn't miss anything :-)
I wish they would at least throw some front LEDs on. It's almost 2025 all these hobby rade trucks should come with front and rear LEDs. Even the Amazon specials have front LEDs
Yeah I guess that just depends on personal opinion. I generally don't care about lighting and will often disconnect them just to get them out of my way but it is nice to have as an option. I do think if they're going to do it though they need to do it right and make them nice and bright.
I just gave you like 5 new views, always love your videos and this was the best yet (maybe because I’m an arrma fanboy). Can’t wait for you to finally say if you’re team Kraton or team kagama with these new updates.
That's a tough one. I think the two cars now are very similar in performance but obviously anything coming from Horizon is going to have better aftermarket support and better LHS support. I think that just barely gives it the edge.
@ you say after I build a full ADU-upgraded kagama…lol
But I still love my Kraton EXB
Another great first review. I hope they do the Mojave
I would be surprised if we didn't see the entire line get updated eventually.
I would like to know if they have upgraded the bearing on the diff input pinions. 🙏
Really nice, Arrma stepping up their game.
Definitely!
Stupid question but can we convert the old arrmas to this clipless system
Almost certainly but I think you'll need to get the new shock towers too
@@DoRC thanks for the reply mate. This is very good to know
I’m so pumped I can’t wait for this
She's pretty good!
How is the motor not overheating on a 16t pinion? I'd say they really did something crazy with the ESC if its getting 67 mph out of the box from another youtuber. The pillow ball suspension change has me thinking... why didn't they just scrap it for links? The pillow ball design is kind of unnecessary since nobody races these. Every other change looks solid and hopefully the diff outdrives are not cracking like the EXB ones. Funny I was eyeing up a Sledge until these dropped today.
The pillow ball design is pretty durable and fairly inexpensive which is probably why they're using it. Between the ESC changes and the heat sinking fan it's definitely working.
Man... when the standard looks already this, what is there left to do on the EXB version (except maybe the bulkheads)?😂
The EXB already has aluminum bulkheads which are superior to this. I suspect we'll see an EXBV 2.5 at some point with all their little updates this has such as the front knuckles etc
I wonder if the Mojave, Fireteam, Typhon, and Bigrock will get the same updates soon? 3 of those share the same chassis and i think the Typhon is on the Notorious chassis.
Mojave and Typhon almost certainly. Big rock and fire team will depend on how popular they are I suppose
Ok.. I'm absolutely excited to see a Mojave V3.. With this DNA, I think I will have a new absolute favorite RC in my collection.
I would be surprised if one wasn't coming!
@DoRC looking forward to it! I can't stand these body colors though.. I hope they don't do these weird colors with the Mojave. Keep that for 3S and lower imo. 4S and bigger needs to be edgy and badass lol
Great job as always!
Thanks and thanks for watching :-)
Thats realy sweet . I had a blx v5 and was let down big time. Now this im liking
The V5 was pretty good but this is on another level
I just got the 6s big rock now this comes out just take my money 😅😅😅😅😅
:)
Yeah there are reasons why things go on sale! But that doesn't take away from the BR6S being a great truck with a different driving experience compared to a K6S.
So fking excited about this and the new Kagama. Gonna pickup a new K6 roller for parts and the new Kagama. I have a type, I guess. Lately, I’ve been putting too much into a Mini B. Really been eyeballing that new Micro B, though.
Seems like a good way to have all the spares you need!
The GOAT checking out the GOAT
Thanks for watching!
8:40 there was rubber gummys on previous versions too, but these seems to be different
Yeah the previous version had some harder plastic and these are really soft rubber. I think they did it for a little bit extra compliance but hard to know for sure
I have a v4 and this year I've had 4 broken bulkheads. I probably should have replaced the first one with a metal one but because I'm sick of working on it I've pushed it to the back of a cupboard.
These updated ones seem pretty stout.
@@DoRC I just can't warrant spending half a month's wages on a new version. Feels like a gamble. I'm thinking about getting a kagama or vorza s next year but I don't know what to go for.
@grahamjacob710 kagama
@@DoRC I lean more towards the kagama but when you watch aussie rc playground with his vorza S I lean the other way.
I want one! The kraton looks fast! Is this your job?
Depends on What you mean by job. If you're asking if I make any money the answer is no. The channel isn't even monetized and I don't take affiliate kickbacks. This is a passion project for me as it allows me to interact with the world and talk to you guys :-)
At least the lid didn't fly off lol
Yeah this new latching system seems to be at least reasonably secure.
Another great video, thanks! 🙏
Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching!