_Coming in clutch just as alot of people were about to pull the trigger on the Sledge Sale!_ *_Loving both the new body colors!!! LFG ARRRRRRMMMAAAAA!_*
Yeah I know a lot of people are going to feel polarized by the new colors but personally anything that isn't the normal red green blue black blah blah is good
More has changed than I initially thought. I think this is a very interesting release. Added to my wish list. Thanks for the in-depth overview. Awesome as always.
I just ordered the V6 Notorios 6s ☺️ a buddy really wanted my 4s Outcast off of me and ever since I sold it, I miss it A LOT! Lol. I never had a RC that did flawless backflips and stunts and it was addicting!
I'll tell you the kraton is hands down my favorite rc truck of all time. It holds a special place for me because 4-5 years ago i only had a few rcs, (granite, typhon 3s, cheetah, dhk maximus) and the kraton was my first big 1/8th and i remember opening that box and blown away how big it was in person and a real deal metal, hobby grade rc. Then i drove it and was even more impressed! Its a true beast! Now i got about 20+ and its still my favorite! (Kraton exb current kraton)
Okay I’m not a fan of any company, I got em all and they’re all great, but what got into Arrma? It’s like… they’re actually listening to us! 😱 Arrma has been blowing my mind lately
@ I actually bought a jato4x4 lol and I’m actually impressed by it for once, severely underpowered but something feels right about it when I’m driving brought a smile lol
@RCBasherLiMa, it's the Traxxas name that has you smiling when you're driving it. Just imagine for a second if the name behind that 8th scale 25mph top speed buggy was Haiboxing or Wltoys would you have bought it for darn near $400
@ don’t get me wrong I love traxxas, but realize the same plastic crap and double the price, and put a stupid bl2s system with a tq radio it’s just a slap in the face.
Arrma really stepping it up, they surprised us with the Gorgon and never let up since. Now if they would just get around to making a good servo saver for their 3s and 4s lineup, it'll be a perfect 2024 for them.
very nice Arrma. They have been listening. The 223s upgrades and the upgrades here and w the Notoriuous are exactly where they needed it. Servo and servo savers mostly! Lol
I slept on the K6 for awhile because I had a Talion and K8 but damn I love this truck! It’s plenty big and plenty fast and doesn’t have the running costs an 8S does (wheels and tire budget is a real thing…) My go to basher , I always bring my K6 and Mojave4 when I want to have a good time without any drama
The k6 and most 1/8 scale truggy style trucks really strike the perfect balance. Until now the Kagama was the best at that balance but I think this at least comes very close to it. It doesn't handle quite as well but it has other advantages
HOLY COW. Arrma have really outdone themselves here. This is precisely why I prefer Arrma over some brands. And most importantly, they're really giving extremely high expectations for the next version of the Kraton EXB. Although I do prefer the standard red and black scheme that Arrma has.
I would be surprised if we didn't see an EXB 2.5 at some point. It likely doesn't make sense for them to keep building the current one with the legacy parts.
My new Arrma EXB V2 RTR is only 2 weeks old, I got a really great deal on it. The aluminum braces, SR6200 RX, and bulkheads are well worth the $100 IMO. I suspect a Kraton EXB V3 will soon be announced with the clipless body, and new hubs. That will likely mean a higher price. I'm not sold on Arrma's clipless design, but will add the new battery strap to mine.
I had a Kr8ton EXB V1 1/5 and it was a beast, and this 6s version looks tougher than that one holy heck !!!! just by looking at this non-EXB version hints at the next iteration cant wait for that one…great vid man as always
I just had an EXB delivered.. paid 575$ out the door. 🎉 Saw this the next day. Even still I think the bulkheads, better towers, etc on EXB is well worth the extra. But they closed a gap for sure. Great deal if you don't want or need the better aluminum parts. Great video and breakdown! Subscribed!❤
@@DoRCany of the 6s line bought recently will have the v2 electronics. I picked up an extra Infraction during the big beginning of summer sales and it has the gray electronics in it.
Omgsh you have done it again sir! Amazing and thorough review. I haven’t seen anyone went through like this on RUclips. You were doing us a great favor so thank you. That was my reaction and thoughts that this thing was going to be 450 and up exactly to get Arrma typhon BLX level. I’d argue and argue on other channels, and they literally brushed me off and say like this thing will do amazing and…Bla bla
I have been watching your videos for a while now, I have for sure subscribed, I do have a RC channel myself, but I love the approach you have going part by part and taking it apart to talk about the specs, you are doing something unique and for sure lots of work behind recording and editing all of that! Great job, I really enjoy watching it I like a lot your work!!!
Fantastic truck, dude! Amazing bashing and review!!! 😃 Later I'm going to watch the MJX v2 review, I'm really curious about it! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Great looking truck! Glad they did something about the pillow ball system and I’m definitely a fan of the black shocks and hubs! I don’t like all the red anodized stuff my Arrma vehicles! I’m not a fan of the color but a can of your favorite paint will take care of that! Great review! I love how you actually take the truck apart to show the upgrades in detail! Keep up the great work!
I’m SO FUCKING GLAD they’re throwing a lot of the reg K6 parts to the new V2 parts. Mainly because that means I don’t have to pay 1.5-2x the price to upgrade my V1 EXB. Thank god. So, I’m assuming, now, that all the old parts are gonna get clearanced and the new ones will hopefully be around the price of the old ones. Gonna try to spread the word about em as much as possible. For a bit, the new EXB shocks were damned near $140 a set. LOVE YOU ARRMA. Also, great vid man. It’s been so fun seeing you grow from running Banggood specials to grabbing the newest/hottest shit out. Being able to do that and having the funds to do it is gonna continue to grow the channel biiggg. I already find myself ONLY watching your stuff when I have time and I don’t even know wtf talbot’s been up to for the last 4 months. Keep killing it, brother. Hope the family’s doing great.
I just love arrma so much 😂 didn't even know this was coming out and it pretty much addressed any little issues I've ever had with the V5 notorious. Still really am in love with the beautiful aluminum bulkheads on the newest EXB so it would be a tough choice honestly!
The removal of the word Wrench at the last part, it's almost like putting on a medal on someone. 🎉❤. I just bought Proline Badlands tires for my Traxxas Sledge, but guess they're going onto this Kraton this Christmas. 😂
glad arrma on point with you for reviews . I don’t have skid plate on rear on purpose , I look at it as the 200k mark if were a real car 🚗. It’s had its life 😂 . It’s time to run kratons again almost forget it’s the ultimate basher . With good driving skills it pushes the limits . I wish I had you as a neighbor so we can talk about those exb diffs . Those look better without the plates . Comes down to I don’t mind if I strip a sun gear ⚙️ after a bunch a packs it’s tunning them in general . I can do my typhon diffs in my sleep , always use the gears till bulkheads are bad . Tbh I think I just got the early editions and I’m not patient enough to tune them properly. I would simply put
@@DoRC Another question, how do you adjust the tension on the pillow balls? I looked at the manual online but it isn't in there. Can you tighten/loosen the 4 screws to adjust them or do you have to replace the outer part once they get sloppy?
@Doug_Morgan Yes but you might be surprised at how long that takes. I've run other cars with non-adjustable pillow balls before and never really had much issue.
I just gave you like 5 new views, always love your videos and this was the best yet (maybe because I’m an arrma fanboy). Can’t wait for you to finally say if you’re team Kraton or team kagama with these new updates.
That's a tough one. I think the two cars now are very similar in performance but obviously anything coming from Horizon is going to have better aftermarket support and better LHS support. I think that just barely gives it the edge.
Looks great! You know 1/8 scale is the best sized large basher. 1/5 is to big unless you build all plastic like the xmaxx and it can fail too. Otherwise they destroy themselves due to size, larger wheels and weight. I am still partial to the buggy style chassis plate.
I'm really debating getting this truck... do you think it would do well on only 4S packs? Don't plan to bash it in an extreme way, just want something besides racers to play with when not at the track. where the front shocks hit the body, slap a payer of E6000 on the inside of the shell in that area, it will help it survive longer...
I just bought a v5 2 months ago... This would have saved me a lot of money. I bought the exb shock caps a 7075 chassis, rpm rear skid, rpm bumper, center 2 piece brace, servo saver, hubs with bigger bearings and I hated the all the red aluminum lol.... I think the only thing (aside from the hideous color scheme) is that they used 29mm version diff cups. I like the 31mm cup. Wonder how the weight compares to the old v5
The EXB diff gears generally are considered to be stronger but the normal ones are fine too. I looked at it compared to the EXBV2 and it's very slightly heavier. I expect it to also be very slightly heavier than the old V5
@DoRC Yea I think it's just the cups themselves that are worse. But the aftermarket exb cups fix that issue. I found it odd the new Notorious is about half pound heavier than the new Kraton
This truck looks awesome and extremely durable. The speed and control looked great. I should try an Arrma, I tend to steer toward Losi and MJX. Speaking of MJX, PLEASE go have a look at their newest 1/10th offering, I think you'll be surprised. I would like to have the motor just for my H8H 😅
@DoRC it's the V2 of their 1/10th basher. It now has a 3970 2500kv motor with a metal center diff, adjustable upper links, 100amp esc, 7.4v @ 13amp! It's 249 pre-order I think
Thanks so in depth. I've been searching for this type of review for a while! Subscribed and bell activated! Thanks. BTW I have the 6s V5 blx, and it's giving me hell as I am new to the ec world, but I enjoyed your video immensely.
@DoRC since my brother ran it through the woods, the first day seems like I've been replacing parts. That & then theres the bolts striping from having to keep replacing parts
@melvincherry5061 ah. Yeah those are pretty common breakage points. The tie rods have been improved on this version but the arms unfortunately are the same. I guess everything has to have a weak point though.
Once again top notch. Don’t have an 1/8th scale. Going to give this one a shot eventually. Good job. Can’t wait to see more on this from Do RC! Stay safe. 🏁🏁🏎️🏎️😎
Have they upgraded the LSD sun gears with the X in the back for the output shaft/pin? On my EXB (guessing v1) roller, I kept blowing those gears out without having LSD plates in it. The X part of the gear would essentially shear off the gear, then chew up the pins. I wanted mine to be open diffs, so I got the arrma shim kit for that and then blew out the rear diff 3 bash sessions in a row. I now have arrma alloy 2 piece cups, M2C out drives, 2 small LSD plates on the back of each sun gear to support the X and one large LSD plate in the cup/gear to make up the difference. So far, that has held up to the max6g2/4990-1650kv with 20T pinion. But I had changed the diffs all to that setup when I had the older max6v3/4985-1650kv with 20T as that's what I put in my roller pretty early on. Wonder if they will krank out an EXB with all these updates on it. I haven't looked to see what the exb's offer now. Mine was the older cheap roller with plastic bulkheads. I ended up with m2c chassis anyway after taco'ing the "exb" one early on.
Yeah the previous version had some harder plastic and these are really soft rubber. I think they did it for a little bit extra compliance but hard to know for sure
Great Video my friend! Sadly, its again an old car. But the new pivot ball lockers looks quite interessting, could you please make a future video and show exactly how they work?
I pretty much showed it in This video. There's not much to it. The pillow ball goes through from the outside just like on the old style and then the cap goes behind it with four screws to hold the cap in. That's it.
Great video mate. Does that mean that if you vhange body postes on the V5 to V6 can you use the clip less body? Also, would you have any recommendations for Imoltion shocks for the Voza Buggy? Cheers
You will probably also need to swap out the shock towers because the new body mounts use different holes. Especially the rear is different. When doing that you might also have to replace the rear wing mount as I think the updated shock tower doesn't work with the old wing mount.
The Kagama handles a little bit better but I would say this is probably slightly more durable and of course for anything horizon's going to kill with upgradeability and parts support
I don't know but if you are having overheating issues you could probably just run a smaller opinion. I don't think it's the software that would be causing the overheating it's the associated 16 tooth pinion
I have a v4 and this year I've had 4 broken bulkheads. I probably should have replaced the first one with a metal one but because I'm sick of working on it I've pushed it to the back of a cupboard.
@@DoRC I just can't warrant spending half a month's wages on a new version. Feels like a gamble. I'm thinking about getting a kagama or vorza s next year but I don't know what to go for.
Love arrma,I have and build so many kratons that I know the platform really well bit why Arrma do this same v5 now v6 whit the exb stuff means almost all the stuff for a little less,Happy that u got it because u make great content but me I Pass,I will keep one of my v5 XL build,Blessings to you all out there
I really love this video and you just made me a firm believer that I want this car the one thing I want to know was what kind of ramp is that that you have
It's a Pacific Northwest RC ramp. I did redo the facing on it as the stock plywood that comes on it isn't super durable especially for bigger cars but it's still a great ramp
Great review. I wonder if a gorilla tape shroud on the inside of the body around the body post would help keep the grit out or some foam over the whole thing. 🤔
7075 chassis being standard is putting a lot of pressure on traxxas. And honestly, it always should’ve been standard. If redcat was able to do 4mm 7075 over a year ago for 500
I wonder if the Mojave, Fireteam, Typhon, and Bigrock will get the same updates soon? 3 of those share the same chassis and i think the Typhon is on the Notorious chassis.
@ Chat I bought the EXB about 3 months prior to this release. I am liking this one much more. Does anyone know if the new Arrma Clipless body could work with the older Kotter pin body styles?
In order to use the new clipless body you would need to also get the new clipless style body mounts. I believe the holes you need will be there on the EXBv2.
Some nice changes! Hmm, these updates have me wondering if I should get this over the Kraton 4s (still plan to run 4s)? I suspect there will be V3 Kraton 4s releasing with this new clipless design as well, hopefully with an updated servo saver too..decisions, decisions. BTW it looked like the sway bar link in the rear on the LHS was popped off or broken.
It popped off. They do it all the time on really nasty landings. It'll pop right back on again though every time it pops off it'll be easier the next time.
Finally they got rid of all the red anodized paint! Not a fan of the body color but other than that everything looks great for the price! Arrma always improves their trucks instead of calling it an EXTREME VERSION and charge another $100 for nothing! I also got a kick out of the “Real 65mph” dig at Trax-ass! Really cool how you open it up for us to see what’s new!
Another great review, if you had to pick between this and the notorious which one would you go for, I know they are different but if you could only have one, which one?
I have a fair amount of experience with both models in previous versions and I would probably pick the notorious just because I mostly do stunts and tricks but I believe the Kraton is the more versatile of the two because it handles its power better.
How is the motor not overheating on a 16t pinion? I'd say they really did something crazy with the ESC if its getting 67 mph out of the box from another youtuber. The pillow ball suspension change has me thinking... why didn't they just scrap it for links? The pillow ball design is kind of unnecessary since nobody races these. Every other change looks solid and hopefully the diff outdrives are not cracking like the EXB ones. Funny I was eyeing up a Sledge until these dropped today.
The pillow ball design is pretty durable and fairly inexpensive which is probably why they're using it. Between the ESC changes and the heat sinking fan it's definitely working.
Corally really forced Arrma to step up the BLX version big time. Now the question the market will answer is, with all these improvements, did they accidentally render the exb obsolete?
That's an interesting question. I suspect Arrma is thinking of this as well and I'd be really surprised if we didn't see a v 2.5 of the EXB soon. It's literally a matter of them just starting to use the new parts they already have and it would be weird if they didn't
@@DoRC I suspect your correct. Makes me wonder about that hint arrma released that sayed "6-8s" and had kraton wheels. No way they're going to release an 8s capable system in an 8th scale package and label exb? But it would be pretty cool if they did 😆
If you're going to be doing casual driving I'd go with this. It's plenty durable enough for that kind of thing has some nice upgrades and you'll save money
That’s pretty slick they give all the tools including that sweet old school nitro wrench While I’ve always loved the arrma brand I almost always have diff issues fairly frequently even when shimmed Glad to see a company stepping up the wheel bearings is a sweet touch. I’d like to know if those are stainless bearings as they normally see water frequently and tend to get worn out quickly I’ve always stuck to the formula of buying a truck from used as I tend to pick them up cheaper then retail and they usually have some “gingerbread” already (upgraded parts ) I only wish my traxxas cars performed like the arrma ones do in the air They seem to always do great with acrobatics where jumping my revo x max slash Rusty’s always tend to be tougher to control My rally seems to nose dive off every jump and I have one old vxl one and a newer brushed style one that’s been upgraded (honestly the difference is wider a arms and supporting parts esc combo and body style ) while my slash jumps ok it doesn’t do many flips ect Great review
No I don't believe these are stainless steel bearings. The EXB differentials are definitely a lot better than the old BLX ones. I heard plenty of people have problems with both though. My own personal experience has been really good. I think I've only killed a few over the years and I've had a lot of them. It's always weird how one person's experience can be wildly different from another's in this hobby.
The shocks should not have air left in them they have vacuum cavities when not fully compressed. push them fully down some oil should come from the bleed hole then replace the screw. Your method will insure every shock is slightly different and very inconsistent.
These emulsion style shocks actually operate by design with some air in them. Because they don't have bladders there has to be a little bit of air in there to compress. The emulsion name itself denotes this because it's running on an emulsion of air and oil. Obviously you don't want a ton of air but a little bit is fine. As far as the consistency you're right I definitely could have made the more consistent but at least in my experience with emulsion style shocks for bashing it doesn't really make much difference.
I am thrilled that the upgrades of this truck has finally showed themselves worthy especially for the price. I have been doing research on which one is better and which to buy. Traxxas sledge or K6 V6? Who takes the crown for the best 1/8th scale basher ever??? Love the standing backflips too. ❤
So fking excited about this and the new Kagama. Gonna pickup a new K6 roller for parts and the new Kagama. I have a type, I guess. Lately, I’ve been putting too much into a Mini B. Really been eyeballing that new Micro B, though.
Man, this thing is awesome! I really wanted the kraton EXB v2, but now looking at this - I guess I wanna buy the v6 kraton, looking at how good it performs P.S. this body is absolutely beautiful with its colour scheme and clipless system 🔥
Yeah they're definitely making up for lost time. For a while there wasn't much and now they're going crazy! I expect things to slow down eventually though
You don’t have to have the newest model released. Specially if you are upgrading your own servo or servo saver or putting a better fan or customizing. Upgrading for clipless body is not worth it for me specially with my horrible Grom clipless experiences in dirt.
I think it just barely edges the kagama out in durability but I think the Kagama handles a little bit better. TC is kind of unrivaled when it comes to handling.
I am so glad that you made this video!!! The way you go into such detail on every single part taking it all apart and showing us all the differences is really amazing because I just got the notorious 6S V6. I knew this in her differential was different but I didn't really understand how until you just took an apartment showed me there's no real good unboxings of this yet there's a couple there's a couple of good bashing videos of it but nothing that really laid it out like yours does. With that said though I have a couple of questions that I hope you see one is with the center differential does that mean that I don't need to take it out and put thicker fluid in it like normal or even an ear plug or anything? And the second question is will the Kraton rear wing mount and wing bolt onto the back of this setup I'm assuming the wing by itself won't fit but I'm hoping maybe the wing mount itself will swap over because I'd really like to put a Kraton wing on here. Thanks again for such phenomenally in-depth real true nuts and bolts style videos you make they help me every time I want to make a decision on a car your videos help me figure out what's the best choice
Unless the body interferes there's no reason why you can't put Kraton Wing on the notorious. As far as the center differential tuning goes that's really going to just depend on your bashing style. What works for one person isn't necessarily going to be what works for another. I'd recommend just seeing how it is out of the box and then tuning from there.
_Coming in clutch just as alot of people were about to pull the trigger on the Sledge Sale!_
*_Loving both the new body colors!!! LFG ARRRRRRMMMAAAAA!_*
Yeah I know a lot of people are going to feel polarized by the new colors but personally anything that isn't the normal red green blue black blah blah is good
@@DoRCwhen does this model release in store? I love the clipless body
More has changed than I initially thought. I think this is a very interesting release. Added to my wish list. Thanks for the in-depth overview. Awesome as always.
Yeah between the big stuff and the little stuff it's a huge list.
I love how are you run on stock at first and then do upgrades. Shows the potential of upgrading.
Stay tuned we've got a bunch more coming!
You're definitely making yourself the go-to guy for the best information 👍
Good to hear :-)
Info was unparalleled
this all year. wait, this, -all subscription-long.
@@rogueFactor :)
@@QZillasWorld plenty more to come!
you deserve mooore then 25k subs , i really apreciate you taking time to show us what's new in the car , 16:19
btw , should i upgrade my esc also from my outcast 4s v2.5? do i need it? can i?
Glad you enjoy! The ESC that comes in the V2.5 is already pretty good. I don't think the firmware will cross over if that's what you were asking
I just ordered the V6 Notorios 6s ☺️ a buddy really wanted my 4s Outcast off of me and ever since I sold it, I miss it A LOT! Lol. I never had a RC that did flawless backflips and stunts and it was addicting!
I think you'll be pretty happy with it :-)
I'll tell you the kraton is hands down my favorite rc truck of all time. It holds a special place for me because 4-5 years ago i only had a few rcs, (granite, typhon 3s, cheetah, dhk maximus) and the kraton was my first big 1/8th and i remember opening that box and blown away how big it was in person and a real deal metal, hobby grade rc. Then i drove it and was even more impressed! Its a true beast! Now i got about 20+ and its still my favorite! (Kraton exb current kraton)
The 1/8 scale truggy really does strike the perfect balance of size mass and versatility
@DoRC Well said! Exactly buddy. 👌🏼🍻 So fast and handles great. It's exhilarating to drive! lol
for only 50$ more from the last gen with the EXB stuff seems like one hell of a deal liking where they are going with these 6s cars
Yeah they really surprised me with how much EXB stuff they put into this. It's a big improvement
Okay I’m not a fan of any company, I got em all and they’re all great, but what got into Arrma? It’s like… they’re actually listening to us! 😱 Arrma has been blowing my mind lately
Yeah they made some great changes here
Traxxas take notes
There's definitely a lot to like here!
Traxxass would have put the BL2s system in it with plastic geared everything.
@ I actually bought a jato4x4 lol and I’m actually impressed by it for once, severely underpowered but something feels right about it when I’m driving brought a smile lol
@RCBasherLiMa, it's the Traxxas name that has you smiling when you're driving it. Just imagine for a second if the name behind that 8th scale 25mph top speed buggy was Haiboxing or Wltoys would you have bought it for darn near $400
@ don’t get me wrong I love traxxas, but realize the same plastic crap and double the price, and put a stupid bl2s system with a tq radio it’s just a slap in the face.
Arrma really stepping it up, they surprised us with the Gorgon and never let up since. Now if they would just get around to making a good servo saver for their 3s and 4s lineup, it'll be a perfect 2024 for them.
I agree. It is time for them to step up their game on that part
very nice Arrma. They have been listening. The 223s upgrades and the upgrades here and w the Notoriuous are exactly where they needed it. Servo and servo savers mostly! Lol
Yeah they've definitely been hard at work
Everything nicely explained, strengths, weaknesses. Honest review is the best 👍
Best RC reviews, imo. 👍👌
Thanks Glad you enjoy it! We all have our biases but I try to be as fair as possible.
I slept on the K6 for awhile because I had a Talion and K8 but damn I love this truck! It’s plenty big and plenty fast and doesn’t have the running costs an 8S does (wheels and tire budget is a real thing…)
My go to basher , I always bring my K6 and Mojave4 when I want to have a good time without any drama
The k6 and most 1/8 scale truggy style trucks really strike the perfect balance. Until now the Kagama was the best at that balance but I think this at least comes very close to it. It doesn't handle quite as well but it has other advantages
Was looking forward to your meticulous teardown! Looks like this is my next rig! Thanks for the upload!
Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching!
HOLY COW. Arrma have really outdone themselves here. This is precisely why I prefer Arrma over some brands. And most importantly, they're really giving extremely high expectations for the next version of the Kraton EXB. Although I do prefer the standard red and black scheme that Arrma has.
I would be surprised if we didn't see an EXB 2.5 at some point. It likely doesn't make sense for them to keep building the current one with the legacy parts.
My new Arrma EXB V2 RTR is only 2 weeks old, I got a really great deal on it. The aluminum braces, SR6200 RX, and bulkheads are well worth the $100 IMO. I suspect a Kraton EXB V3 will soon be announced with the clipless body, and new hubs. That will likely mean a higher price. I'm not sold on Arrma's clipless design, but will add the new battery strap to mine.
Maybe a V3 or maybe just a v 2.5. We shall see.
I had a Kr8ton EXB V1 1/5 and it was a beast, and this 6s version looks tougher than that one holy heck !!!! just by looking at this non-EXB version hints at the next iteration cant wait for that one…great vid man as always
Yeah I suspect we'll see an EXB V2.5 at some point. It probably doesn't make sense for them to keep making the V2 with legacy parts.
Really impressed with this video brother.... Great work
Thanks Glad you enjoyed!
I just had an EXB delivered.. paid 575$ out the door. 🎉 Saw this the next day. Even still I think the bulkheads, better towers, etc on EXB is well worth the extra. But they closed a gap for sure. Great deal if you don't want or need the better aluminum parts.
Great video and breakdown! Subscribed!❤
Yeah the EXB for 575 is a great deal!
@DoRC Under the tree it goes lol
7:13 thanks for the heads up. I hope this applies to my typhon's ESC, I'll have to check
I'm not sure if it only applies to the V2 ESCs or if it will work with the older generation as well
@@DoRCany of the 6s line bought recently will have the v2 electronics. I picked up an extra Infraction during the big beginning of summer sales and it has the gray electronics in it.
Omgsh you have done it again sir! Amazing and thorough review. I haven’t seen anyone went through like this on RUclips. You were doing us a great favor so thank you. That was my reaction and thoughts that this thing was going to be 450 and up exactly to get Arrma typhon BLX level. I’d argue and argue on other channels, and they literally brushed me off and say like this thing will do amazing and…Bla bla
Glad you enjoyed! I think it's a pretty good truck and priced fairly reasonably
@@DoRC sorry i think my youtube bugged out but the comment supposed to be for the mini maxx video
@@DoRC but all your videos are so informative
No joke, Arma is killing it with the colors on some of these new releases!
Agreed!
I have been watching your videos for a while now, I have for sure subscribed, I do have a RC channel myself, but I love the approach you have going part by part and taking it apart to talk about the specs, you are doing something unique and for sure lots of work behind recording and editing all of that! Great job, I really enjoy watching it I like a lot your work!!!
Thanks! To be honest I'd be doing it even if I wasn't making the videos but it is great to hang out with you guys :-)
Yeah they sold me at the bigger bearings for the rear and new reinforced wing mount, let alone all the other improvements, great review.
It's definitely got some good upgrades!
Fantastic truck, dude! Amazing bashing and review!!! 😃
Later I'm going to watch the MJX v2 review, I'm really curious about it!
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching!
Ive been thinking of getting the 6s bigrock as my first 1/8th scale car mainly because i like how it looks but this has changed my mind completely
This is a much better value.
Great looking truck! Glad they did something about the pillow ball system and I’m definitely a fan of the black shocks and hubs! I don’t like all the red anodized stuff my Arrma vehicles! I’m not a fan of the color but a can of your favorite paint will take care of that!
Great review! I love how you actually take the truck apart to show the upgrades in detail! Keep up the great work!
If you guys keep watching them I'll keep making them :-)
I’m SO FUCKING GLAD they’re throwing a lot of the reg K6 parts to the new V2 parts. Mainly because that means I don’t have to pay 1.5-2x the price to upgrade my V1 EXB. Thank god. So, I’m assuming, now, that all the old parts are gonna get clearanced and the new ones will hopefully be around the price of the old ones.
Gonna try to spread the word about em as much as possible. For a bit, the new EXB shocks were damned near $140 a set.
LOVE YOU ARRMA. Also, great vid man. It’s been so fun seeing you grow from running Banggood specials to grabbing the newest/hottest shit out. Being able to do that and having the funds to do it is gonna continue to grow the channel biiggg. I already find myself ONLY watching your stuff when I have time and I don’t even know wtf talbot’s been up to for the last 4 months.
Keep killing it, brother. Hope the family’s doing great.
Thanks man. I'm glad you enjoy and thanks for being here since early times!
Awesome performance and review bash!!! Your videos are always the best that are out there. Thanks!!!
Glad you enjoy!
Great review as usual! Keep up the great work. It’s on the wish list.
Thanks and thanks for watching!
I just love arrma so much 😂 didn't even know this was coming out and it pretty much addressed any little issues I've ever had with the V5 notorious. Still really am in love with the beautiful aluminum bulkheads on the newest EXB so it would be a tough choice honestly!
They definitely are shiny
The new v6 notorious is out btw
@@wheredagasat yep. It came out the same day
The removal of the word Wrench at the last part, it's almost like putting on a medal on someone. 🎉❤. I just bought Proline Badlands tires for my Traxxas Sledge, but guess they're going onto this Kraton this Christmas. 😂
Badlands are awesome!
I was just about to sell my Kraton 6s EXB v2 , I'll just add some of these updates to mine .
Best of both worlds!
Same thing here, what exactly you will update, and what money you think will be? Thanks
glad arrma on point with you for reviews . I don’t have skid plate on rear on purpose , I look at it as the 200k mark if were a real car 🚗. It’s had its life 😂 . It’s time to run kratons again almost forget it’s the ultimate basher . With good driving skills it pushes the limits . I wish I had you as a neighbor so we can talk about those exb diffs . Those look better without the plates . Comes down to I don’t mind if I strip a sun gear ⚙️ after a bunch a packs it’s tunning them in general . I can do my typhon diffs in my sleep , always use the gears till bulkheads are bad . Tbh I think I just got the early editions and I’m not patient enough to tune them properly. I would simply put
You can always catch me on Facebook Messenger :-)
This looks awesome. I can't wait to see the new Notorious v6. Should have most the same upgrades in a stunt truck package.
Yeah it's basically the same under the hood just with a shorter chassis
12:43 That ramp looks tiny yet it gets massive air. Did ya just slap it together or did ya measure angles to get it to launch properly?
It's the pnwrc madness ramp
Just grabbed one myself, excited!
Nice!
Looks like they have the thicker fireteam , big rock hexes on there also
Yes I believe everything comes with those now.
Looks like some great updates! Praying that they are doing the same with the Mojave since they got rid of the EXB version
I'm sure we'll see some sort of updated Mojave eventually.
I may get those front and reat hubs just for the larger bearings. The stock bearings on my EXB are too small.
They definitely seem to be a superior design.
@@DoRC Another question, how do you adjust the tension on the pillow balls? I looked at the manual online but it isn't in there. Can you tighten/loosen the 4 screws to adjust them or do you have to replace the outer part once they get sloppy?
@Doug_Morgan You don't. It's fixed.
@@DoRC Darn, that means as they wear you have to replace them. :(
@Doug_Morgan Yes but you might be surprised at how long that takes. I've run other cars with non-adjustable pillow balls before and never really had much issue.
I just gave you like 5 new views, always love your videos and this was the best yet (maybe because I’m an arrma fanboy). Can’t wait for you to finally say if you’re team Kraton or team kagama with these new updates.
That's a tough one. I think the two cars now are very similar in performance but obviously anything coming from Horizon is going to have better aftermarket support and better LHS support. I think that just barely gives it the edge.
@ you say after I build a full ADU-upgraded kagama…lol
But I still love my Kraton EXB
Awesome! Some good updates and the price is reasonable 👍😉
Yeah I think for everything you're getting it's fairly priced
The ramp that I am referring to is the little small one that you use the very first one. It looks like you can Fold It Up
Ah. It's a Pacific Northwest RC ramp. It doesn't fold up but it is fairly portable and well made. Not cheap though
Thank you for letting me know that and for your Speedy response
@@aquads_life You're welcome :-)
I wish theyd offer a kit of parts to convert current v5s over. I literally just bought a v5 notorious this year.
That would be cool.
Looks great! You know 1/8 scale is the best sized large basher. 1/5 is to big unless you build all plastic like the xmaxx and it can fail too. Otherwise they destroy themselves due to size, larger wheels and weight. I am still partial to the buggy style chassis plate.
Yeah 1/8 scale really strikes a good balance between size and mass.
@DoRC Agreed. I was primarily 8th scale early on then ventured off into most other scales.
I'm really debating getting this truck... do you think it would do well on only 4S packs? Don't plan to bash it in an extreme way, just want something besides racers to play with when not at the track.
where the front shocks hit the body, slap a payer of E6000 on the inside of the shell in that area, it will help it survive longer...
Yeah I've actually got a video on e6000 and cement board tape reinforcement. It does work well.
4S will be just fine it just will be slower
Great job as always!
Thanks and thanks for watching :-)
Glad you got it.
I trust you vs the sell outs
And Razor ✌️
Curious. Sellouts like Kevin Talbot or other names?
Thanks!
@@chrisginoc anyone who has a warehouse full of merchandise, they know who they are.
@@UncleDon-q8lcouldn’t have said it better 👍
I just bought a v5 2 months ago... This would have saved me a lot of money. I bought the exb shock caps a 7075 chassis, rpm rear skid, rpm bumper, center 2 piece brace, servo saver, hubs with bigger bearings and I hated the all the red aluminum lol.... I think the only thing (aside from the hideous color scheme) is that they used 29mm version diff cups. I like the 31mm cup. Wonder how the weight compares to the old v5
The EXB diff gears generally are considered to be stronger but the normal ones are fine too.
I looked at it compared to the EXBV2 and it's very slightly heavier. I expect it to also be very slightly heavier than the old V5
@DoRC Yea I think it's just the cups themselves that are worse. But the aftermarket exb cups fix that issue. I found it odd the new Notorious is about half pound heavier than the new Kraton
This truck looks awesome and extremely durable. The speed and control looked great. I should try an Arrma, I tend to steer toward Losi and MJX. Speaking of MJX, PLEASE go have a look at their newest 1/10th offering, I think you'll be surprised. I would like to have the motor just for my H8H 😅
Are you talking about the 112 scale crawler?
@DoRC it's the V2 of their 1/10th basher. It now has a 3970 2500kv motor with a metal center diff, adjustable upper links, 100amp esc, 7.4v @ 13amp! It's 249 pre-order I think
I also found motor clamps to mount 40mm fans
Great video! That thing gets huge air!
I'm pretty sure it's the biggest air I've ever gotten off that small ramp and it did it effortlessly. Very impressive
Awesome! Thanks for the in depth review 👍
Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching :-)
Really impress by this new version, more powerful and tougher than ever :)
Yeah she's a tank
Thanks so in depth. I've been searching for this type of review for a while! Subscribed and bell activated! Thanks. BTW I have the 6s V5 blx, and it's giving me hell as I am new to the ec world, but I enjoyed your video immensely.
What issues are you having with the V5?
@DoRC since my brother ran it through the woods, the first day seems like I've been replacing parts. That & then theres the bolts striping from having to keep replacing parts
@melvincherry5061 which parts specifically are you replacing?
Replaced suspension arm tie rods and servo. Then replaced the sprocket from 12t to 15t
@melvincherry5061 ah. Yeah those are pretty common breakage points. The tie rods have been improved on this version but the arms unfortunately are the same. I guess everything has to have a weak point though.
Once again top notch. Don’t have an 1/8th scale. Going to give this one a shot eventually. Good job. Can’t wait to see more on this from Do RC! Stay safe. 🏁🏁🏎️🏎️😎
I don't think it would disappointed. It's a pretty awesome truck
RIGHT ON!!!! Thanks for the awesome breakdown!!
Thanks for watching!
You do a better job than the arrma website or video.. they advertised none of the 70% upgrades they did.
Yeah I was actually very surprised to see most of the stuff that was in here as well. Maybe they don't consider it upgrades I'm not sure.
Have they upgraded the LSD sun gears with the X in the back for the output shaft/pin? On my EXB (guessing v1) roller, I kept blowing those gears out without having LSD plates in it. The X part of the gear would essentially shear off the gear, then chew up the pins. I wanted mine to be open diffs, so I got the arrma shim kit for that and then blew out the rear diff 3 bash sessions in a row. I now have arrma alloy 2 piece cups, M2C out drives, 2 small LSD plates on the back of each sun gear to support the X and one large LSD plate in the cup/gear to make up the difference. So far, that has held up to the max6g2/4990-1650kv with 20T pinion. But I had changed the diffs all to that setup when I had the older max6v3/4985-1650kv with 20T as that's what I put in my roller pretty early on.
Wonder if they will krank out an EXB with all these updates on it. I haven't looked to see what the exb's offer now. Mine was the older cheap roller with plastic bulkheads. I ended up with m2c chassis anyway after taco'ing the "exb" one early on.
Not sure about the gears. I do expect that we will see a v 2.5 EXB at some point. It makes sense for them to update the parts that they have
I’m so pumped I can’t wait for this
She's pretty good!
8:40 there was rubber gummys on previous versions too, but these seems to be different
Yeah the previous version had some harder plastic and these are really soft rubber. I think they did it for a little bit extra compliance but hard to know for sure
Great Video my friend! Sadly, its again an old car. But the new pivot ball lockers looks quite interessting, could you please make a future video and show exactly how they work?
I pretty much showed it in This video. There's not much to it. The pillow ball goes through from the outside just like on the old style and then the cap goes behind it with four screws to hold the cap in. That's it.
Great video mate.
Does that mean that if you vhange body postes on the V5 to V6 can you use the clip less body?
Also, would you have any recommendations for Imoltion shocks for the Voza Buggy?
Cheers
You will probably also need to swap out the shock towers because the new body mounts use different holes. Especially the rear is different. When doing that you might also have to replace the rear wing mount as I think the updated shock tower doesn't work with the old wing mount.
I don't have any suggestions for vorza upgrades. HPI might actually make something
Once again Kenny great video. As far as the truck IMO the Kagama 6s is still a better truck.
The Kagama handles a little bit better but I would say this is probably slightly more durable and of course for anything horizon's going to kill with upgradeability and parts support
13:44 Is it possible to revert back to an older software version? I’ve heard some guys are having overheating issues with the v6.
I don't know but if you are having overheating issues you could probably just run a smaller opinion. I don't think it's the software that would be causing the overheating it's the associated 16 tooth pinion
I have a v4 and this year I've had 4 broken bulkheads. I probably should have replaced the first one with a metal one but because I'm sick of working on it I've pushed it to the back of a cupboard.
These updated ones seem pretty stout.
@@DoRC I just can't warrant spending half a month's wages on a new version. Feels like a gamble. I'm thinking about getting a kagama or vorza s next year but I don't know what to go for.
@grahamjacob710 kagama
@@DoRC I lean more towards the kagama but when you watch aussie rc playground with his vorza S I lean the other way.
Love arrma,I have and build so many kratons that I know the platform really well bit why Arrma do this same v5 now v6 whit the exb stuff means almost all the stuff for a little less,Happy that u got it because u make great content but me I Pass,I will keep one of my v5 XL build,Blessings to you all out there
Yeah if you already have a bunch of them this one probably doesn't offer that much new but as an incremental update it's a good one
@DoRC that's true for sure,I just gonna watch what u have on store for it 🤣🤣I can't wait,Blessings my good man🙏🫡
I would love an EXB roller version of this
Unfortunately it seems like they have moved away from rollers.
I really love this video and you just made me a firm believer that I want this car the one thing I want to know was what kind of ramp is that that you have
It's a Pacific Northwest RC ramp. I did redo the facing on it as the stock plywood that comes on it isn't super durable especially for bigger cars but it's still a great ramp
Still making quality videos I see, keep it up, man! 👍
Will do you thanks for watching :-)
Great review. I wonder if a gorilla tape shroud on the inside of the body around the body post would help keep the grit out or some foam over the whole thing. 🤔
I don't think so. One thing I've learned in this hobby is that it is nearly impossible to actually seal out the fine particulate dust.
i have the same thing happen with my arrma fury with the body sticking when sand gets into the post
Yeah I think it's going to be pretty common with this setup.
Very good catching all the details
Thanks! Hope I didn't miss anything :-)
Great review. Looks like the v6 is the real deal.
It's very impressive
7075 chassis being standard is putting a lot of pressure on traxxas. And honestly, it always should’ve been standard. If redcat was able to do 4mm 7075 over a year ago for 500
Yeah the 7075 chassis makes the biggest difference here.
Man, do the new ESCs on the new 6s v6 arrma vehicles accept fully charged LIHV batteries??
I wonder if the Mojave, Fireteam, Typhon, and Bigrock will get the same updates soon? 3 of those share the same chassis and i think the Typhon is on the Notorious chassis.
Mojave and Typhon almost certainly. Big rock and fire team will depend on how popular they are I suppose
@ Chat
I bought the EXB about 3 months prior to this release. I am liking this one much more.
Does anyone know if the new Arrma Clipless body could work with the older Kotter pin body styles?
In order to use the new clipless body you would need to also get the new clipless style body mounts. I believe the holes you need will be there on the EXBv2.
Really nice, Arrma stepping up their game.
Definitely!
Some nice changes! Hmm, these updates have me wondering if I should get this over the Kraton 4s (still plan to run 4s)? I suspect there will be V3 Kraton 4s releasing with this new clipless design as well, hopefully with an updated servo saver too..decisions, decisions. BTW it looked like the sway bar link in the rear on the LHS was popped off or broken.
It popped off. They do it all the time on really nasty landings. It'll pop right back on again though every time it pops off it'll be easier the next time.
Are u gonna compare this beast to the sledge and kagama?
I don't have any plans to make a video like that at this time.
@DoRC Sad, but great answering speed. You deserve all ur subs (including me)
@Userbw2345-x1i thanks I'm glad you enjoy! I would definitely consider doing it but I don't actually have a sledge right now.
@@DoRC How about the kraton exb?
Finally they got rid of all the red anodized paint! Not a fan of the body color but other than that everything looks great for the price! Arrma always improves their trucks instead of calling it an EXTREME VERSION and charge another $100 for nothing! I also got a kick out of the “Real 65mph” dig at Trax-ass! Really cool how you open it up for us to see what’s new!
Heck yeah! We got to see what they changed!
Another great review, if you had to pick between this and the notorious which one would you go for, I know they are different but if you could only have one, which one?
I have a fair amount of experience with both models in previous versions and I would probably pick the notorious just because I mostly do stunts and tricks but I believe the Kraton is the more versatile of the two because it handles its power better.
I think the shock towers are thicker I see their site says pre order for them
Don't think they're thicker I think they just have different holes for shock mounts and body mounts
How is the motor not overheating on a 16t pinion? I'd say they really did something crazy with the ESC if its getting 67 mph out of the box from another youtuber. The pillow ball suspension change has me thinking... why didn't they just scrap it for links? The pillow ball design is kind of unnecessary since nobody races these. Every other change looks solid and hopefully the diff outdrives are not cracking like the EXB ones. Funny I was eyeing up a Sledge until these dropped today.
The pillow ball design is pretty durable and fairly inexpensive which is probably why they're using it. Between the ESC changes and the heat sinking fan it's definitely working.
Corally really forced Arrma to step up the BLX version big time.
Now the question the market will answer is, with all these improvements, did they accidentally render the exb obsolete?
That's an interesting question. I suspect Arrma is thinking of this as well and I'd be really surprised if we didn't see a v 2.5 of the EXB soon. It's literally a matter of them just starting to use the new parts they already have and it would be weird if they didn't
@@DoRC
I suspect your correct.
Makes me wonder about that hint arrma released that sayed "6-8s" and had kraton wheels.
No way they're going to release an 8s capable system in an 8th scale package and label exb?
But it would be pretty cool if they did 😆
@captaincouldverc no I'm guessing they meant 6s 1/8 scale
So would you recommend buying this or a kraton 6s exb model ? For casual driving/small jumps in some dirt trails
If you're going to be doing casual driving I'd go with this. It's plenty durable enough for that kind of thing has some nice upgrades and you'll save money
That’s pretty slick they give all the tools including that sweet old school nitro wrench
While I’ve always loved the arrma brand I almost always have diff issues fairly frequently even when shimmed
Glad to see a company stepping up the wheel bearings is a sweet touch. I’d like to know if those are stainless bearings as they normally see water frequently and tend to get worn out quickly
I’ve always stuck to the formula of buying a truck from used as I tend to pick them up cheaper then retail and they usually have some “gingerbread” already (upgraded parts )
I only wish my traxxas cars performed like the arrma ones do in the air
They seem to always do great with acrobatics where jumping my revo x max slash Rusty’s always tend to be tougher to control
My rally seems to nose dive off every jump and I have one old vxl one and a newer brushed style one that’s been upgraded (honestly the difference is wider a arms and supporting parts esc combo and body style ) while my slash jumps ok it doesn’t do many flips ect
Great review
No I don't believe these are stainless steel bearings. The EXB differentials are definitely a lot better than the old BLX ones. I heard plenty of people have problems with both though. My own personal experience has been really good. I think I've only killed a few over the years and I've had a lot of them. It's always weird how one person's experience can be wildly different from another's in this hobby.
The shocks should not have air left in them they have vacuum cavities when not fully compressed. push them fully down some oil should come from the bleed hole then replace the screw. Your method will insure every shock is slightly different and very inconsistent.
These emulsion style shocks actually operate by design with some air in them. Because they don't have bladders there has to be a little bit of air in there to compress. The emulsion name itself denotes this because it's running on an emulsion of air and oil. Obviously you don't want a ton of air but a little bit is fine. As far as the consistency you're right I definitely could have made the more consistent but at least in my experience with emulsion style shocks for bashing it doesn't really make much difference.
Sick!!! Do you have the notorious as well???
I don't but under the hood they're going to be pretty much identical other than chassis length.
The question is when will there be an updated EXB?
I'm not sure but I'd be surprised if they waited too long. They've already got all the parts they need so a V2.5 makes sense.
The sooner the better because I wouldn't mind picking up an EXB v2.0 on sale LOL!
I am thrilled that the upgrades of this truck has finally showed themselves worthy especially for the price. I have been doing research on which one is better and which to buy. Traxxas sledge or K6 V6? Who takes the crown for the best 1/8th scale basher ever??? Love the standing backflips too. ❤
Especially taking price into account I would say the k6 is better than the Sledge. They both have their weak points but I think the kasich's on top
So fking excited about this and the new Kagama. Gonna pickup a new K6 roller for parts and the new Kagama. I have a type, I guess. Lately, I’ve been putting too much into a Mini B. Really been eyeballing that new Micro B, though.
Seems like a good way to have all the spares you need!
The GOAT checking out the GOAT
Thanks for watching!
Man, this thing is awesome! I really wanted the kraton EXB v2, but now looking at this - I guess I wanna buy the v6 kraton, looking at how good it performs
P.S. this body is absolutely beautiful with its colour scheme and clipless system 🔥
I would probably buy this over the EXB at the moment!
Another great video, thanks! 🙏
Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching!
Who doesn't love standing backflips?!
In grass!
The number of new rc releases this year is crazy, getting awfully expensive being in this hobby
Yeah they're definitely making up for lost time. For a while there wasn't much and now they're going crazy! I expect things to slow down eventually though
You don’t have to have the newest model released. Specially if you are upgrading your own servo or servo saver or putting a better fan or customizing. Upgrading for clipless body is not worth it for me specially with my horrible Grom clipless experiences in dirt.
Question, can it beat the Kagama 6s regarding performance as well as durability wise?
I think it just barely edges the kagama out in durability but I think the Kagama handles a little bit better. TC is kind of unrivaled when it comes to handling.
I am so glad that you made this video!!! The way you go into such detail on every single part taking it all apart and showing us all the differences is really amazing because I just got the notorious 6S V6. I knew this in her differential was different but I didn't really understand how until you just took an apartment showed me there's no real good unboxings of this yet there's a couple there's a couple of good bashing videos of it but nothing that really laid it out like yours does.
With that said though I have a couple of questions that I hope you see one is with the center differential does that mean that I don't need to take it out and put thicker fluid in it like normal or even an ear plug or anything?
And the second question is will the Kraton rear wing mount and wing bolt onto the back of this setup I'm assuming the wing by itself won't fit but I'm hoping maybe the wing mount itself will swap over because I'd really like to put a Kraton wing on here. Thanks again for such phenomenally in-depth real true nuts and bolts style videos you make they help me every time I want to make a decision on a car your videos help me figure out what's the best choice
Unless the body interferes there's no reason why you can't put Kraton Wing on the notorious.
As far as the center differential tuning goes that's really going to just depend on your bashing style. What works for one person isn't necessarily going to be what works for another. I'd recommend just seeing how it is out of the box and then tuning from there.