AMD Ryzen 7 3800X vs. 3700X Review: Don't Waste the Money
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2019
- We're finally reviewing the AMD Ryzen 7 3800X versus the Ryzen 7 3700X, benchmarking the two to look at advantages of the extra cost on the 3800X.
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The AMD Ryzen 7 3700X is an 8C/16T processor, as is the Ryzen 7 3800X, with the only difference being stock clock speeds for base and boost speeds. There is no physical difference between the two processors, but the $70 difference is real and primarily nets a higher stock clock. If you're wondering about the differences between the R7 3700X and R7 3800X in gaming and workstation benchmarks, like Adobe Premiere, Photoshop, Blender, and V-Ray, we answer those questions in this video.
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ill be first reply.
Any chance for a written publication in the website?
So the higher TDP does nothing?
Wait, why was there no compiler benchmark here? Or did I miss it despite watching twice?
I wonder what wiill happen if you crank up the BCLK on the 3700X, does that get it closer if not beat the 3800x? Same for 3600 and 3600x?
I consider myself very lucky. I got a "free" ryzen 3800x.
My ryzen 1800x had the ryzen segfault bug, so I decided to RMA it. Since there was no ryzen 1800x left in stock, I was offered a ryzen 3800x instead.
That's an extremely good outcome. Was the RMA processed by AMD or a retailer? Either way, good on them for getting you on such a big upgrade.
@@GamersNexus it was a retailer.
No way!, Man, what an upgrade..
@@doufmech4323 give them some word of mouth advertising
Damn, I only have bad luck.
Steve :"that should be very quick "
also Steve speaking for more than 17 minutes :P
Than* is the comparative. "Then" means after something in time. If you look at the performance chart you can see that "then" scores 4 more alphabet points because of the letter number boost of e. But for real world use "than" is still better. Save the money.
I was literally at the moment of the movie and wanted to write the same commentary :D
He's slowly turning into Buildzoid.
I actually like long videos, "reviews" that last 5-10 minutes seem pointless to me. I would rather be flooded with info then not enough
@@TylertheGeek28 Yeah, I feel like anyone who doesn't have the time should just read an article about the product or just skip parts of the video. I like having as much information as possible about products that I may potentially buy.
13:23 Everybody
thanks thanks thanks
Thank you! I am working on a new rig to replace my one from 2013 (ancient, I know!)
@@dumont7478 hey man! Same here just installed my 3700x,what's your plan? 🙂
Thank you so much
@@lukaplays420 I went with an intel build because I will primarily be doing 1440p gaming with, at most, really light editing. 9700KF, 2080 Super
I love to see how in depth these reviews are. So happy I found this channel while doing research about the 3000 series Ryzen processors. Thank you.
Thank you. Exactly what I was looking for.
i had the 3800x pre ordered the other day but had a change of heart and changed to the 3700x, glad i made the right decision
Will there be a bottleneck? = Rtx 2060 + amd ryzen 7 3800x
@@netardedrigger9683 umm fuck no, the 2060 would be the bottleneck not the cpu...which is fine tho lol.
@@netardedrigger9683 should probably get a 3700X and 2060 Super or 5700XT (wait for custom cards tho)
@@shane6023 yeah I did the same thing still haven't heard anything about the 3800x coming in and the 3700x came in last week. This is exactly the video I was looking for.
This is EXACTLY the review I've been waiting for. I love the way you get onto these review so quickly, as you know we're all wating to hear the/your results and views. I've been watching your channel for a cupla Months now and am lovin it, so I've subscribed now. Thanks.
finally, thank you for this review and comparison I was waiting for this since launch
I guess amd felt like they had to fill the 400$ segment
To probably feel likke they were "better" competing with Intel, even though the 3700x and even the 3600 are competing perfectly (almost) against Intel. .-.
No, it was obviously to milk more benefit from the same chips. Even Steve says so in the conclusions/outro
In the UK the i9 and 3800X are the same price wtf, gonna pick myself up an i9 due to better gaming performance and cheaper mobos :)
They could've filled it with a 12-core CPU...
@@JacobThomas0212 The "cheaper mobos" isn't a thing. Even for that I9, you could spend about the same amount on a mobo as a x570. And there are still x570 mobos cheaper than the z390? Besides that, the 3700x is the 8 core you should go with, if you go 8 core. It's just a lowered clocked version than a 3800x and can still OC to the point where it practically matches the 3800x or is only 1-2% behind.
The price difference on amazon is $15 right now. That’s much less than it was previously.
Same, during the lockdowns the 3700 was out of stock and the 3800 was under 20$ of difference so I went with that,
Yes. For me the difference was €0 or -€10 (3800X cheaper) for me recently on mindfactory.de.
Even buying "smarter" would've only saved me €5.20 or smth. 3800X it is now. Definitely boosts higher. Almost 4.3 GHz allcore just from PBO.
The difference for me is £1 lmao
From Currys, both cost £300 lmao
When i purchased the 3800x it was cheaper than the 3700x lol so i went with it
I was waiting for this one. Thanks GN for helping me decide between these two CPUs.
Thanx for this guys. Was just the review I needed to decide on my next cpu.
Once you've cleared through the backlog of initial reviews, some info on safe voltages for 7 nm would be appreciated. I've heard some x570 boards are spiking as high as 1.5V Vcore on auto which is pretty terrifying.
I've run 1.48 which was the auto vcore for 5 months.
I've also ran 1.24vcore for a couple months after.
Doesn't seem to care
@Sean Price I'm on X370, so that might make a difference, but when I'm on auto / stock settings with my 3800X I sit at about 1.38V at 100% load. I've overclocked this chip before, and anything over about 1.4V doesn't seem to help at all. 1.5V sounds terrifying to me haha.
A 10 core ryzen 3800x would make more sense at that price.
That's a weird core number (10). Reminds me of a friend who had a 3-core cpu when 4-cores were expensive.
@@johnsmith-gs4qf 10 core CPU's aren't that weird, there's plenty of them around. 3 core CPU is pretty weird though, as far as I remember back in like 2011 or so only 3 core CPU's were from AMD, and they were basically terrible, since AMD decided to take all the botched quad core Phenoms and just call them tri-core and present as entirely new gen of CPU's lel.
@@X2yt Phenom X3 was bad, but Athlon not so if I remember correctly. With some luck one could even unblock the fourth core :)
@@X2yt they weren't really terrible. in the end the 3rd core could bridge the gap between the intel duo lack of cores and the more expensive 4 core cpu's
@@saxtremer silicon lottery at its peak, really
Thank you Gamer Nexus for the video, in the first test image I saw a 3900x 12C/12T, I was like I think I’m not seeing right but it was a typo. Keep on the epic reviews ñ.
"Quick and easy review" 17 minutes 12 seconds. Bruh Steve on the real you could probably just jump in MS paint and draw on the extra frames in each chart.
The detail given in this short review is building a case with evidence towards the conclusion.
To do otherwise would be similar to the 'just buy it' story from Tomshardware - a fluff piece with no fact.
17 minutes all talking fast and with no time stamps...I can't stand it any more.. :/
@@ilgeometradicampagna9862 Time stamps aren't needed as it is 1 topic.
Weekly hardware recap where more than 1 vendor or 1 product has time stamps due to the subject/vendor change.
@@ilgeometradicampagna9862 it even summarizes in the video title, the video is just why that's the conclusion.
I would like to see the clocks speed scale expanded, with base clocks way above 3000MHz why start the scale at zero ? I will review all this content when I upgrade my computer later this year. Wonderful work again by GN
Was waiting a lot for this (even if I already bought my 3700X).
Thanks for your video
I like that the titles of many of your reviews don't bury the lede.
Thank you for verifying this :)
We were all waiting to confirm.
I want some coverage from you guys doing per CCX overclocking on all the chips.
when your cpu bins are so good that your more expensive and "better binned" sku gets killed on arrival
Thanks for this review! really important to know about these things!
As expected. :) Thanks for the review.
Exactly what I gambled on with a 3700X. Less money to lose on a future upgrade to 16 cores or whatever AM4 maxes out on.
@Strange Boy Double the price, double the performance. Also a 3700x is $280 at my local microcenter and a 3800x is $300. Hopefully the 3950x drops $100 off at microcenter. Then that would make a 3900x a waste of an upgrade from a 3700x to 3950x imo, as I currently have a 3700x
@@fatman2876 Eh, double the cores does not always equate to double the performance. The important part for performance in most games is the pure clock speed, and there the 20 bucks upgrade from the 3700x to the 3800x might actually be worth it.
@@fatman2876 i own a ryzen 9 3950x. When paired with my 2080 ti my i7 8086k destroys the ryzen cpu in gaming. Even when i had the 3950x oc stable at 4.4 ghz it just couldn't outperform the i7.
Unless u went x570, u r maxed out my friend =( I'm butthurt at amd but it's all love.
@@n3rdy11 but the 3700x and 3800x have same ipc so if u oc the 3700x to the same frequency then you have the same result between the two. 3800x theoretically will have better chance and hitting higher frequency if better binned, but lack of proper cooling will keep you from boosting anyways so theres so many variables we are splitting hairs with these 2 chips.
I was trying to purchase the 3800X when they came and was sold out everywhere during the first day and end buying the 3700X instead. Glad I made right purchase since there wasn’t any benchmarks for the 3800X during the launch.
I appreciate you putting the verdict in the title of the video. Most youtubers want to make you watch through it for ad revenue.
Awesome review! Thank you GN
This is exactly the comparison I was waiting to see reviewed. I was wavering between getting the 3800X and 3700X. This saved me $70. Thanks Tech Jesus !
I was wondering what the Vaseline was for.....then I listened to the full review. I understand. Save some for those that originally bought the RTX 2070.
hey man really good your new high speed talk! way to go
Glad I watched this, thanks Steve :)
Right now it's a $10 difference in Canada. At least for the moment with the black Friday sales.
I paid 390$ for my 3800x
Just paid $330 for a 3800x. Felt like a steal.
Is there more difference between the 3700 and 3800 now than 4 months ago? With the latest bios tweaks and all that?
@@Guovssohas Not really but if you can get the X for a few bucks more, why not?
@@Kelleyyye621 Paid $253.56 for my 3800x 😬
Thanks for the benchmark 😁👍🏻. Guess my pick 3700X is set on stone!
Guys can help test Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut vs Stock on Ryzen 3700X.
I'm running a 3800x with a fractal design celsius s24 and carbonaut.
Idle is around 40-50, stress test it ended up around 84 after a bit, degrees celsius.
When gaming its around 60-70 degrees Celsius.
Thanks for the info Strit. Now i wonder how the stock Ryzen Thermal paste hold up? Is the Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut better?
@@-Strit- Ambient temp ?
@@NeoGuyver81 I choose it because I found it interesting and it will stay the same forever.
I don't take my system apart for years and years do wanted the same thermals for the long time
@@claritoresdiano1021 around 20 degrees Celsius
It's nice that Gamers Nexus put the conclusionon the title of the video
Great review, thanks a lot. It was helpful
Are you going to do a content piece regarding per-CCX overclocking using Ryzen Master? Similar to what der8auer has done recently?
I ask hardware unbox the same thing
@@chriswright8074 Yeah, but Hardware unboxed will just show you bare FPS numbers, and nothing more. They are basically useless for informed content...
@@downwiththatsortofthing624 How is that bad and what would you rather see?
@@jediii86 MUHAHAHAHHAHAHAH, thanks for the laugh
@@jediii86 Here's a tinfoil hat for you, genius.
flexing with the nitrogen tank, i see
Thanks Steve and the rest of the GN crew.
this is what i was waiting on thanks GN
The price difference fell to around $10, needless to say I got the 3800x. Buy the 3800x for $10 more.
I can get it for $20 more... still worth it you think for the potentially better binning?
@@BoopSnoot In my opinion yes, however others may disagree. I wouldn't go much over that cost.
@@mannyc19 For the love of God don't oc all core ryzen 3000, it's useless and with that voltage you will only kill the cpu
Today picked up the 3800x for $30 more than the 3700x
@@spatafrankio5620 idk about useless, maybe marginal difference but u can see a small boost. I would ask what's the cooling solution but they can usually oc on 1.35v np.
Steve please fix ur charts
Could u just show us the frequency number in the chart like when u put it between 2 random frequencys like 4.160 and 4.6 we can't tell exactlly how much its hitting
I was thinking the same, 460 on bottom... Like 90% of the chart is useless.
+1, the charts where a narrower range of frequencies are shown (as in some other recent videos) are much better!
Zooming in like that is good, only 2 labels is not
@@noxious89123 He can't do that because people will squeal about how the charts are 'deceptive' because they don't start at zero.
My guess is that it is to show possible extreme dips in performance.
THANK YOU! Was waiting for something like that since not many bothered to test the 3800x in general.
nobody got sampled so they probably purchased the cpu
yeah, I think amd avoided sending them out to reviewers because they knew what they would say, and that would hurt their bottom line.
Your content is so unique compared to the other channels. I love your videos. So credible and unique. Thanks
The real show stealers are the 3600 and 3600X hanging out at ~10% below the 3800X but for half the price.
Yeah, when I watched the 3600/x video they did similar to this I was sold on it. I kept thinking of getting the 3700x just to have the 8cores but I don't need it (now anyways). GN helping people save money.
@@techmasters4013 not for ps4 emulation - the emulator uses 8 cores. 3700x will trounce 3600
@@JustinCrediblename thats why i wrote for PC games only
Unfortunately majority of PC games start off as consoles games. So... Yeah that's why I went for 8c 3700x
@@ManMang0 consoles are 8 cores because ppl stream off of consoles they need that headroom just like u would want if u were on PC. Doesn't mean the games will utilize all cores and threads.
Dude that is a really BIG bottle of Vaseline.🤣
Liked - just for launching your own tool kit Steve congrats on diversified business model
Thanks for the review
I got my 3800x for the same price as the 3700x with two games valued @ 60 ea. ($120 total) so I'd say it was worth it, but this was amazing info
Say goodbye to iFixit sponsorships now that you’re competing with them lol
Thank you Steve and GN crew! I wasn't sure if which one would be more ideal. I was already planning toward the 3700x, but this solidified it. I needed more power in the render and gaming area but didn't want to spending the big money in the 3900x. Appreciate it! 👍
Yeah finally the rev I wanted to see.
It always seems to me that the 3700X was originally intended to be the 3700 while the 3800x was the 3700X leaving the 3800X as 12 core and 3900X as 16 core. However I do like that the 3950X is a reflection of the previous threadrippers who used that numbering for their 16 core variations and being a 50 in AMDs 50th year works too, I guess AMD felt the same.
except that is not possible, the way CCDs and CCXs work
@@darkoparko6685The CCX layout has no impact on what you can market them as/ name them :D
@Darko Parko , what has product naming have to do with ether CCD or CCX?
Yeah , pretty much all marketing scheme.
Great vid, I kinda thought the 3800X was gonna be one of those cpu's that begs the question, "Why does this exisit?" oh btw, Any chance you could add a Gamers Nexus Bathrobe to your merch store?
and toilet paper?
@@mdd1963 I was going to say underwear. but your suggestion outclasses mine.
@@mankybrains This victory alone exceeds all all my expectations; pretty sure if I can do this.....I can do anything...!!!!!!!!!
I want GN shampo and conditioner.
I mean HAVE YOU SEEN TECH JESUS'S HAIR?!
Well this makes me feel better as my 3700 will be here on Monday for my new build. Glad I didn't spend the extra on the 3800! Thanks for the in depth in depth info Steve :)
Very recommend video!
Thanks Steve. Glad I saved that 80 Euro. Even the cooler is identical this time around. It is odd however how binning alone can provides better results (however marginal) at same clocks on otherwise identical chips.
It’s taken three generations to determine conclusively that the X stands for “extraneous”.
awesome thanks for the review
Thumbs up for the Total War benchmark!!
3800x premiere in 3.8.
Stop. I can only get so excited.
LOL - They could always make a 3800X Turbo version and really turn your screws.
@@RUclipsHandlesAreStupid 3800XT would like a word
Walmart has the 3700X for $300 and amazon has it for $310. Amazon has the 3800X for $330. $30 difference but 3800X comes with both Outer Worlds and Borderlands 3(with 3700X, you have to choose 1 of the 2).
Good job men. Thanks for all.
dude... your work is perfect for comparison.... thanks :)
4:10 i had to replay it a few times to figure out if ya said shit or ship xD
Chip
So the 3800x's extra TDP does nothing, that's a shame.
You could be the auctioneer in storage wars with the way you talk during those benchmarks :)
Thank you for your review and honesty. Helped me make a decision.
I bought a 3600 base on all the recommendations
Only good reason is if 3700X is out of stock
Yea because people are blindly buying it...if you game and dont realize that the product performing something up to 2 years ago in games..rofl.
valeman3 you game focus on a cpu instead of the gpu? LUL. I don’t buy cpu for gaming. I buy cpu for productivity. I buy GPU for gaming.
valeman3 gamers like you make us look bad. Get a life
Actually, there is a 2nd reason to do it. More money for AMD means sticking it to INTEL, or were you never screwed by Intel? I can actually give you an 8 years example, ZombieLoad.
@@Supremax67 So you would screw yourself over in order to screw Intel? While AMD is laughing all the way to the bank. This is fanboyism and is exactly what we should be fighting against. You should support AMD by buying products that are actually worth it. Even though they are bringing a fight to Intel, AMD should not get a free pass to do whatever they want, because in the end, they will be the ones that screw customers over.
Righteously awesome review. Money saver.
Could you look in the future into overclocking per CCX? derbauer made an interesting video about it, maybe you can get a bit more performance out of these CPUs
took 2 weeks before i found a video that i needed thanks!
probably because nobody had the CPU to test/benchmark
There were rumors that 3800X has two chiplets with disconnected CCX, because it's a waste of 3900X/3950X. I was hoping that thanks to this the temperatures would be lower (because the heat would dissipate from the two corners of the CPU). Can you relate to temperatures? Are there any noticeable differences? Personally, I could pay the difference in price for -10 * C.
This is what people were hoping, but it's wrong. What you say makes way too much sense, but AMD didn't do it that way. The 3800X and 3700X use the same chiplet configuration and the 3800X will be higher temperature due to (slightly) higher clock speeds.
@@Jonw8222 Not a bad news tho. At least now I have clear winner - 3700X :)
It makes zero sense to configure one CCX from each of two dies, if there were two dies then that would distinguish the 3800X from the 3700X by using the extra cache and that would translate to performance gains above frequency and wouldn't infringe on the 3900X at all as the additional cores and threads is easily worth the extra $100 over the 3800X and the 3800X desirable over the 3700X.
Don't listen to rumours that make zero sense, if it was a case of thermal reasons then two cores per CCX active makes more sense than 4 cores on one for thermal density and optimally a chequerboard of two opposite diagonal cores per CCX.
The 3800X exists because there are people who will buy it because it is faster and is a bigger number, but the 3700X is the mainsteam 8 core which most of the chips on the wafer will comply to and the 3800X makes the 3700X look like a bargain.
@@BOLOYOO Yeah good news for those wanting to save some money. And buy faster RAM or GPU.
@@magottyk Good point here. Nevertheless, it was worth checking :)
Since these CPUs seem to scale well with temp, maybe time for a nice roundup of water and air coolers? that could get you the most out of your CPU?
Took me a while but I was finally able to read the title in 17 minutes
Originally I wanted the 3800X.... so glad I went for the 3900X!
In december 2019 this delta is now about $20.
@@JoshTheTechnoShaman is it worth it?
@@JoshTheTechnoShaman yeah $309 vs $339 rn on Amazon.
@@Sol-su2mi Yep
Micro Center dropped the price down to $329.99 a couple of days ago, but then it shot back up to @350.
It's back to about $45 now. At best the 3800x is a 2-3% increase and less than that in almost all workloads. It even fell short of the 3700x in a few tests, albeit barely.I wouldn't buy a 3800x over a 3700x unless they were like $5 apart after seeing these benchmarks. I knew the price difference was stupid, but I didn't know it was THAT stupid.
Any scope for a feature on the ccx level overclocking which derbauer discovered? Seems interesting to see how that would impact game performance
Your game benchmarks were done with Four Sticks of RAM.
According to your charts in the video, it was GSkill Trident Z 4x8GB 3200 CL14.
@Gamers Nexus : You may just have a bad chip, but my 3800X does 4450Mhz all core during gaming out of the box. Can’t imagine that a 3700X would come close to that performance, but I don’t have one to test.
I thought this might have been the case after seeing the 3600 v 3600X
Now Im not sure if I just want a 3600 or a 3700X. Typically just buying the 3700X just cause. lol Poor mans 3900X
I've been wrestling with the exact same thing but ended up deciding on 3600 (purchase pending) a 3700x would be nice but I'd be buying it just to be excessive and if I wanted to be excessive properly I should get a 3900x the extra money is being spent on a water block for the 5700xt which makes much more sense considering the overclocking headroom with decent cooling. Get a 3600 and splash out on something else that will give you a performance boost you will notice.
I got the 3600 and I am not disappointed with it. I upgraded from a 5 2600 and there was a big difference. Out of the box too, I could overclocking to 4.3 GHZ. With the 5 2600, I was able to overlock to 4.0 GHZ too. I’ve gotten very lucky with ryzen chips and I’m not disappointed what so ever
Same here too, I wanted 3700x as soon as specs was released as it is 2x of my current cores/threads. But same MSRP that of 2700x, yet the release price is 40€ more.. 309€ for 2700x when new and 349€ for 3700x. So the cap to 3600 in price is even huger for 5% gains. Yet to get either chips as BIOS:es seem like a total mess and don't want a motherboard that will not boot anymore if you enable XMP (with 3000 series chip, making paying from BIOS update a bad idea). Short summary, MSI/ASRock you might end up with motherboard not booting anymore once you turn computer off overnight. ASUS memory doesn't work. Gigabyte might have only working 400-series boards so far. None have Destiny 2 working and x570 has fan/price :P
@@leviatrus a 4.0 ghz overclock on the 2600 is very common, usually you can go up to 4.1/4.2ghz
Virush oh nice. Didn’t know it was a common thing! Good to know!
Finally. The first 3800X review i could find.
Steve please do a video about the higher voltage and lower boost clock relating to Fabric clock. I observed on my 3900x, high idle voltage (1.475V) and 4.275Ghz max boost when on 1800Mhz Fabric, Bumped memory to 3200Mhz and Fabric clock now at 1600Mhz, and all a sudden I am clocking higher (4.5Ghz), and the voltages drop a lot more when idle.
About to upgrade my 4690k after 5 years lol, 3700X looking like the winner for me.
good luck brother I'm also going from the 4690k to Ryzen soon
You won't regret it. 🙂😎
@@ulysses2162 Should be arriving tomorrow, along with a Noctua NH-U14S, 32gb 3600mhz ram, and two 1tb pcie 4.0 NVME SSD's, and a Pimax 5k+. lol
@@Munky332 Sweet! Enjoy 🙂😎
Lol yea. And if anyone was wondering. The pimax was absolute shit, sent it back for refund after 3 examples being broke, got an HP Reverb.
That Ryzen 3600 @ 200 bucks trolled this entire video being 3-5 frames slower in every benchmark than his much more expensive brothers.:-)
XTRAA THICCC
So the 9600k omega trolled them being faster than any ryzen on gaming cost the half ? hehehe
Thank you so much!!!!!!
Hi, Steve, hope you and the team are doing well. I've been wondering: are you going to do a review of Carbonaut when the Ryzen hype and video onslaught (thank you guys for that, by the way) has tapered off a bit? I'm interested in applications in "unfixable" computers like an iMac, where it isn't really feasible to replace thermal paste without significant effort.
I'm new to this stuff, does stock mean no overclocking and right out of the box?
yes
Yup
Do note modern graphics cards and amd cpus 'oc' themselves a bit based on thermals and available power it has left in the safe ranges defined by the manufacturers to it. You can also call it boosting or turboing mind you, even locked Intel CPUs turbo to a certain degree. Also when it comes to CPUs it usually only turbos a few cores not all of the cores
I'm completely happy with my 3700x, I wanted the extra cores for 4k gaming/streaming/recording, but I didn't need the 12 cores. I can guarantee I wouldn't be able to do with this with a 6 core 3600.
A suggestion would be to change the scale of the graphs to better display the fluctuations in frequencies over time. Showing frequencies below 4 GHz is a bit redundant unless the CPU had dips that low.
Otherwise great video
It's fun to try and make an excel with comparison of specific CPUs based on benchmarks where on some benchmarks they show up, and on some they don't. So much fun. Guess I'll have to blindly trust the approximation made with the non-X models with the overclocking.
it seems like people forgot about bragging rights :)
I'm so happy I waited for the reviews, I got my i7 9700k for $349.
I got a day one 3600x for the price of 3600. My brother got a 9900k for the price of a 3700x. So much win all over the place.
Definitely a good buy cuz those extra threads on AMD CPUs aren't really helping much especially in gaming. If you want the CPU for some specific workload where AMD has an advantage then the 3700x makes more sense.
Shit cpu for high price. well done
Buy more AMD cpu to force game developers to write AMD optimized microcodes .. to serve the people and do the business is a big heavy burden over the head .. so paying the optimization money to game developers are to be excluded . All i am saying is that the power to turn the course of pc world is in the hands of the consumers .. don't fall for just the branding. 😊👍
@@cijoykjose most consumers should buy the product that gives them the best product they can get for the lowest they can pay. That's how the market moves forward. If we support an uncompetitive company, we are making things worse for our own selves and I say this as a 2700x owner.
Please do an x570 PCH fan noise comparison. I have a Astrock Phantom X and the whiny fan is driving me nuts!
16:32 most important message for overclockers-in-spe
Yet here we are 4 months after this review and I just bought a 3800X. It's the same price as the 3700X at launch($329). Those Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales yo. Funny enough you can get a 3700X for $299 as of this writing(1 Dec 2019). $70 off or $20 off. You choose.
What's the advantage in your mind of the 3800x? His points remain the same. Same goes for 3600 vs 3600x.
Same price as the 3700X at launch for a 1.5-2.0% avg gain overall. No other reason.
This video quality is gorgeous.. Even better than an LTT video!
So true and so much detailed
I see there is no real difference in manual overclocking, and I know PBO is basically broken right now, but presuming it does get fixed with BIOS updates, will we see coverage of that, and a re-evaluation of some of these results if there becomes a more notable difference in specific workloads?