Does the dying western Church see the treasure that is hidden?

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  • Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
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  • @gregorymikula4249
    @gregorymikula4249 Месяц назад +31

    I have been celebrating the Traditional Latin Mass since my ordination. The faithful who assist at Holy Mass in my home chapel all learn to use traditional missals. They know the unchangeable parts of the Mass in Latin and by heart. They observe the chapel dress code. Women wear veils and dresses. The men come to Mass in appropriate attire. They willingly do these thing in order to maintain the Catholic Faith. There is no coercion.Many new faces are showing up and undergoing the same formation. The faithful are not stupid. They see that things have gone off the rails in the "new" church.

    • @joebollig2689
      @joebollig2689 Месяц назад +4

      Oh yes! Thank you, thank you, thank you! How I wish we had a Traditional priest in my town! To be a typical Catholic is to be in exile in your native land.

    • @briandelaney9710
      @briandelaney9710 Месяц назад

      Well “dress codes “ are of an era not necessarily about the Catholic Faith. Otherwise this sounds great

    • @cthurbz5146
      @cthurbz5146 Месяц назад

      @@briandelaney9710This I agree with, although modesty is always important.

    • @harvestingnow1571
      @harvestingnow1571 Месяц назад +2

      I am 58 and born in summer of 65’. Went to Catholic Parochial school in the 70’s and changes already happened. I was fortunate to study under the Baltimore Catechism and taught by IHM NUNS. They are who taught me my faith. However, I feel cheated. I’ve NEVER had an opportunity to attend a TLM and if I didn’t find Utubers who showed me the TLM exists, I would Never understand what has happened to my church. I feel cheated. 😭🙏

    • @user-dz4qm8nm8p
      @user-dz4qm8nm8p Месяц назад +2

      ​@@briandelaney9710 the era in the Orthodox faith remains as it always has for 2,000 years. Women cover their heads, men uncover theirs in church. Women wear no pants or jeans in church, but modest skirts or dresses, men wear no jeans in church but wear nice clothes.

  • @Fiat.Voluntas.Tua22
    @Fiat.Voluntas.Tua22 Месяц назад +36

    Please also pray for Charlie Furlough, another layman in America who was a champion for the Mass. He was one of two men who fought and won to open the first Traditional parish in the United States. His funeral is also today. Pray for him 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏.

  • @user-hw3gy5qj9k
    @user-hw3gy5qj9k Месяц назад +9

    My cousin becomes a priest in June this year in Essex. Pray for him. He will need it coming into the church at this unusual time.

  • @LambofGodKnock
    @LambofGodKnock Месяц назад +6

    I pray that we get more Traditional Latin Mass priests in Ireland. There is beauty in their communities.

  • @edtrent3789
    @edtrent3789 Месяц назад +12

    My wife and kids started to pray the Rosary every night a few months ago. It is so nice to see my kids pray the rosary. I hope one day they will do the same with their kids.

  • @christopherfleming7505
    @christopherfleming7505 Месяц назад +20

    The hierarchy have essentially told the laity for the past 50 years: "you can have anything you like in the Mass, except tradition."

    • @uncle_Samssubjects
      @uncle_Samssubjects Месяц назад +1

      I was brought into the Church as a juvenile delinquent but I haven't been able to attend because im afraid to gain that which can easily be taken.

    • @My10thAccount
      @My10thAccount Месяц назад +1

      @@uncle_Samssubjects
      Avoidance isn’t the answer. Have faith that the Lord protects all those who truly desire to follow him from themselves and anything that would endanger their soul.

  • @taraelizabethdensley9475
    @taraelizabethdensley9475 Месяц назад +21

    I'm in the UK, and yesterday attended a week day Latin Mass, felt so awkward because I couldn't follow the prayers fully. It was so reverent though, so I will go again, even though it means over an hour on public transport

    • @jackiefisher1820
      @jackiefisher1820 Месяц назад +6

      Now aged 70yrs. such travel is to much for me, so I would ask you to offer up prayers for those who would like to be with you in person but can only be with you in spirit.
      I pray for all who accept these hardships in order to attend the True sacrifice of the Mass!
      St Edmund Campion pray for us!

    • @tolkienlewis6887
      @tolkienlewis6887 Месяц назад

      Thank you ​@@jackiefisher1820

    • @tolkienlewis6887
      @tolkienlewis6887 Месяц назад +6

      I'm in the same situation in Berlin. The Low Mass in Latin really strengthens me.

    • @robdee81
      @robdee81 Месяц назад +2

      once youve been to a few you will start to understand whats going on and it will click.

    • @magdalenep8497
      @magdalenep8497 Месяц назад +3

      You will soon fall in love with it and understand all you need to. It is worth the sacrifice!

  • @carolinafine8050
    @carolinafine8050 Месяц назад +22

    Catholic from Wisconsin here.. we have many, young and very devout priests

    • @sliglusamelius8578
      @sliglusamelius8578 Месяц назад +7

      The young priests are the future; I hope.

    • @magdalenep8497
      @magdalenep8497 Месяц назад +3

      We have a fair amount in the archdiocese of Denver as well. However, the diocesan priests who offer the TLM are under an expiration date from the Vatican. We shall see.

    • @lindag1372
      @lindag1372 Месяц назад

      What diosese in Wi?

    • @carolinafine8050
      @carolinafine8050 Месяц назад

      @@lindag1372 Milwaukee

  • @kaymuldowney6752
    @kaymuldowney6752 Месяц назад +8

    We need to go back in time. I heard a beautiful male choir in my dream singing " keep walking back " keep walking back " The singing woke me and I wrote down what I could remember. I believe they were GOD'S Angels. God Bless the speaker and the listeners. .

  • @jackiefisher1820
    @jackiefisher1820 Месяц назад +14

    We learned that the Sacraments were "an outward sign of inward grace".
    Similarly, outwards signs of Holy worship, gloves,veils and missals ,holy communion in a reverent manner are signs of active,inward worship!
    I remember how Catholics were forced into "Cramner's mass",many souls have been lost!
    St.Edmund Campion pray for us!
    God bless you Robert stick to your guns!

  • @marywoolley3329
    @marywoolley3329 Месяц назад +11

    The fact that we are not allowed to have "this conversation" is in itself, a cause of divisiveness. In an age of inclusion, dialogue, ecumenism, going to the peripheries etc etc, the exclusion of trad Catholics from the synodal process is very telling.

  • @Oldparson220
    @Oldparson220 Месяц назад +9

    In the US, I lived through the mess. The Church we had in 1964 vs what we had in 1970. 6 years, there arose a totally new church, and with it in the same 6 years a mass abandonment of the faithful.

  • @philipwebb5065
    @philipwebb5065 Месяц назад +13

    Deo Gratias for the change of hearts in the pews in my homeland.

    • @thomasmooney5653
      @thomasmooney5653 Месяц назад +3

      I often think of how America's mission to come, will be like that of Ireland when the light of faith was flickering in Europe and when WASP's had an iron grip in the US.
      Keep feeding the faith, especially the youth.

    • @uncle_Samssubjects
      @uncle_Samssubjects Месяц назад

      ​@@thomasmooney5653Americans need to learn our history. William Penn once told his fellow English men to remember the Magna Carta before being jailed in the tower of London, after his own father brought back the king. Have you never learned about William Penn or the Liberty Bell? The fact is Catholicism in the US is tied hand in hand with the US Constitution and our Bill of Rights. If we don't restore the Law we will continue to be targeted.

  • @godfreecanadian4185
    @godfreecanadian4185 Месяц назад +12

    Thank you Robert. I so badly needed to hear this message of hope. I only wish that my parish would have adoration more often and would celebrate first Saturday devotion.

    • @thomasmooney5653
      @thomasmooney5653 Месяц назад +1

      In time, like the patience of our good and faithful young priests.
      You must be prepared to make an extra effort for Christ on behalf of those brothers and sisters who are closing their eyes to the truth; travel for 1st Saturdays.

  • @tracyokane
    @tracyokane Месяц назад +8

    God bless our new, young priest in Millis, MA glorifying the Lord and transforming our lives by his example and in beautifying our church and in his reverent devotion to the Eucharist and Blessed Sacrament. 🙏🙏🙏

  • @Paul317
    @Paul317 Месяц назад +3

    Devoted Catholic from Michigan , sorry for your loss Robert🙏and your absolutely right on fortunate I have a very good Priest at my parish he preaches and no politics at all just Faith only. We just need to Pray Ave Maria ❤

  • @DominicMazoch
    @DominicMazoch Месяц назад +3

    You nailed it in the beginning. If a Rite or Form brings you closer to God, GREAT. But if it becomes a false god of a person, that is a form of Gnosticism, and violates one of the Ten Commandments.

  • @Corolla97ww
    @Corolla97ww Месяц назад

    It grieves me to see what we have done to our older churches. Our ancestors weren't rich but they scrimped and saved to build beautiful churches.

  • @sheiladumigan451
    @sheiladumigan451 Месяц назад +10

    Jesus Jesus Jesus 🙏❤️

  • @janinefazioli9463
    @janinefazioli9463 Месяц назад +1

    Wow Robert! Yes…the sacred leads to contemplation! I had to attend a First Communion last Sunday and did not recognize the church as my own Holy Catholic Church! I was sick at the irreverence….it was hard to put into words but now you have…thank you!

  • @user-jf5vk5rn3u
    @user-jf5vk5rn3u Месяц назад +5

    I'm all for Trad because there has been no tampering with words, prayers and the Liturgy in general. God bless...Yes, contemplation - not clown masses filled with "I" messages.

    • @maddyproctor1443
      @maddyproctor1443 14 дней назад

      What do you mean by 'clown Masses' I have been a Catholic for 51 years and have never seen one. Only reverence at the NO Mass.

  • @maryshannon7551
    @maryshannon7551 Месяц назад +2

    I have said this before and I will say it again. there is great beauty in the physical structure of older and more traditional churches .And as an artist I long to see that expression of reverence for God. And yet I will never forget sitting in an adoration chapel that was stripped of art or any highly decorated sacred objects. The alter cloth was a simple pure white pressed linen . And the monstrance was a plain round gold frame ,with glass to view the Holy Eucharist Host inside. Two simple candles light, one on each side. The walls were white except for stained glass windows on the right . I can’t even remember what the images on these windows were, because I was focused on the monstrance.There was a comforting warmth and welcoming silence. . . and an indescribable peace. It would be a great shame to say , the glory of God was not present in that little room. My eyes were fixed on Jesus present on that alter.

    • @maddyproctor1443
      @maddyproctor1443 14 дней назад

      The simplicity of the setting sounds beautiful. Very Franciscan!

  • @cybereye2
    @cybereye2 Месяц назад +8

    Robert they are going fror authenticity

  • @billkolb1305
    @billkolb1305 Месяц назад +3

    Tradition is the future!!!

  • @user-hw3gy5qj9k
    @user-hw3gy5qj9k Месяц назад +2

    We are thinking of moving soon. Problem is I have a lovely priest who wears the long black gowns/communion on the tongue is fine/incense is used/lots of benediction etc and because of this priest so many people I notice now copy his ways/no talking in the church/attendance full packed out masses. I am so happy,he has only been at this parish under a year. What a revival we are having!! I am therefore terrified of moving to a new parish. Not sure what to do.😮

  • @byrnedegrandpre8884
    @byrnedegrandpre8884 Месяц назад +1

    Another great video Robert. Thank you for telling the truth, speaking directly to my heart.

  • @jameswall6270
    @jameswall6270 Месяц назад +7

    I long for a reverent mass so much that it has driven me towards anglo-catholicism. Please bring back the sacred. Please

    • @DominicMazoch
      @DominicMazoch Месяц назад +1

      Are you near an Ordinariate Form (AU) parish? That form sounds like something up your alley.

    • @user-dz4qm8nm8p
      @user-dz4qm8nm8p Месяц назад

      Go to an Orthodox church to know how early christians practised their faith. Nothing has changed in 2,000 years.

  • @carolinafine8050
    @carolinafine8050 Месяц назад +6

    The nerve of that one priest to complain that his generations liberalizing efforts are being rolled back and then it says he helped with ushering in sex education in Catholic schools. You had Mexican teachers lose their jobs over the issue in the 1920s and onwards. These Mexican ladies sacrificed their jobs and their incomes to keep true to the faith… THEY knew fully well what the ulterior motives of sex education was. They trusted the Bolsheviks meant what they said when they had it introduced in the East. And then you have these progressive Catholics cheerily bringing that type of “education” to the schools in the West. Foolishness

  • @marieswann3204
    @marieswann3204 Месяц назад +1

    I’m in the US and I would say it is not the fault of the faithful for the abandonment of parishes it’s the Greed
    Within the heirarchy and the Secret China deal.

  • @tolkienlewis6887
    @tolkienlewis6887 Месяц назад +2

    Very good Robert. Im old enough to have experienced the TLM and now try to attend when possible. Unfortunately there isn't one that near me but i travel when i can.

  • @sergesavard636
    @sergesavard636 Месяц назад +4

    When in the name of the Holy Trinity are just going to finally admit Vatican 2 was a galactic failure....

  • @electrifiedspam
    @electrifiedspam Месяц назад +3

    When they say worship as the spirit moves you, they aren't talking about the Spirit of God.

  • @jeffreykalb9752
    @jeffreykalb9752 Месяц назад +2

    Traditional devotion may not be the same as faith, but it is certainly the most honest indicator of it. That is why the felt-banner frou-frou hierarchy is upset about it.

    • @user-dz4qm8nm8p
      @user-dz4qm8nm8p Месяц назад +1

      "felt banner frou-frou hierarchy" 😂😂😂

  • @DominicMazoch
    @DominicMazoch Месяц назад +2

    The Eastern Byzantine rites also have icon art in them.

  • @marygr8064
    @marygr8064 Месяц назад +2

    Robert, 40 out of 60 parishes in Baltimore, MD, are closing. The diocese declared bankruptcy because of all the sexual abuse settlements. So many of the faithful are feeling betrayed by the Church. Maybe you could cover this sad development?

    • @RickW-HGWT
      @RickW-HGWT Месяц назад +1

      And lori is restricting the TLM, a sad hireling when shepherds are needed.

  • @simonewilliams7224
    @simonewilliams7224 Месяц назад

    But they are choosing what God endowed to us, gradually formed over time for our maturation into His Church. God has a certain way for us to worship Him. They are finding God’s way and not the way of the world.
    No matter what wayward ideology that has been pushed at us for70 odd years by the lost or faithless from the top, is not what we are accepting in the end, we are seeking the way of God. Hallelujah ! Christ is risen and I, you, are His by ransoming of our souls through His crucified body and blood, back to the Father.
    Hallelujah!

  • @elizabethl6187
    @elizabethl6187 Месяц назад +1

    True Christianity belongs more to eternity than to any era. Some of what we mean when we say “tradition” or “old ways” properly belongs to the past, present, and future; it’s the novelties of modernism which are tied to specific times and will pass away.

  • @user-er8gg9yu4b
    @user-er8gg9yu4b Месяц назад

    Especially when it comes from the hierarchy

  • @msabrina3
    @msabrina3 Месяц назад

    Ave Maria 🕊️

  • @LazarusUnwrapped
    @LazarusUnwrapped Месяц назад +1

    Thanks

    • @thecatholicman
      @thecatholicman  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you so much

    • @LazarusUnwrapped
      @LazarusUnwrapped Месяц назад

      @@thecatholicman As an evangelical Catholic convert I thank you for all your encouragment in the Faith.

  • @reba5679
    @reba5679 Месяц назад +1

    I will only take communion on the tongue by the consecrated hands of a priest or I will not receive.

    • @maddyproctor1443
      @maddyproctor1443 Месяц назад

      It is so important to focus on the Blessed Sacrament - not the priest or Eucharistic minister - they are only God's instruments. Do not put a human being above God - even though one of them might be a priest - this is where it is easy to innocently make an error of judgement. We are all unworthy to receive the Body of Jesus - priests - everyone - all unworthy. Fortunately God is bigger than we are, is generous and ever ready to meet us on our level. We only need to have a proper focus at the special time - Jesus. Do not be sidetracked into not receiving Our Lord under what you perceive to be 'the wrong pair of hands' - it is not a good direction to follow

  • @ARobichaud
    @ARobichaud Месяц назад

    40 years was I neigh to that generation that does always err in their heart.

  • @ejcrispin
    @ejcrispin Месяц назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @mrbaker7443
    @mrbaker7443 Месяц назад +1

    Traditional worship should just be the way of things but not become worshipped as a false idol

  • @stuartgibson5087
    @stuartgibson5087 Месяц назад +7

    We NEVER should have allowed To Receive Our Lord on the hand and taken away the altar rails, whoever Allowed this did NOT Believe JESUS is Present in the Eucharist 🙏🌍🙏🍀🌹🕯️💫❤️

    • @thomasmooney5653
      @thomasmooney5653 Месяц назад +2

      Yes. 💯%
      More than change in decor or liturgy, THIS destroyed faith.

    • @maddyproctor1443
      @maddyproctor1443 14 дней назад

      Please think hard about what you have written here. It is amazing to receive Our Lord in the hand - to have that split second of adoration and intimacy with my God who is my All - I'd be heartbroken to have this taken away

  • @antoninob5347
    @antoninob5347 Месяц назад +1

    Lex orandi, lex credendi.

  • @doloresnolan5949
    @doloresnolan5949 Месяц назад +1

    ❤❤

  • @bradyandjodi1
    @bradyandjodi1 Месяц назад

    Yes! Amen! 100%!

  • @beedee2920
    @beedee2920 Месяц назад

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @joecrow2847
    @joecrow2847 Месяц назад +2

    As western Church seems to be dying to some, churches of other religions are opening up. As Catholic churches are becoming more closed, my Catholic friend takes me to Hindu temples and other places of religions.

  • @jamescam04
    @jamescam04 Месяц назад

    So what is this “immense shift” ? In what does it consist ? That has not been explained.
    When I attended an Orthodox service - not a word of which I could understand - I was far more impressed than I have ever been at any Catholic Mass, whether NO or TLM.
    What one feels, has absolutely nothing to do with what is true & right. The US habit of trusting in feelings as an indicator of truth, is stupid beyond words. I blame Luther for that trash. Feelings are worthless as a guide to truth; Christ did not feel happy when He was doing the Father’s will by dying on the Cross for our salvation.

  • @paddymeboy
    @paddymeboy Месяц назад +2

    I think people clutch on to the past as a security blanket. There's nothing wrong with tradition but you can't blindly cling to things just because they were there in the past, and you have to be willing and able to embrace the future too. It is coming whether any of us likes it or not.

    • @harvestingnow1571
      @harvestingnow1571 Месяц назад +1

      What most people in the faith are saying is WE DONT WANT A FAKE CHURCH. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @rosesham3442
      @rosesham3442 Месяц назад +2

      There is a difference when music or fashion changes but religion has no time line, GOD is timeless so whom are we mortals to challenge our Creator.

    • @RickW-HGWT
      @RickW-HGWT Месяц назад

      Embracing the " future " gave us this crisis, you have no understanding of the source of this debacle and how long it has been forced on us.

  • @user-er8gg9yu4b
    @user-er8gg9yu4b Месяц назад

    Spreading falsehoods is the work of the devil

    • @RickW-HGWT
      @RickW-HGWT Месяц назад

      So is abusing the faithful in its many evil forms, treating the faithful with contempt, abusing children and squandering our resources , promoting and celebrating heretics, perverts and traitors in the hierarchy and in the parishes.