Prius Prime. How to get max electric miles, Part 2
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- This is the second video where I show how to get the maximum electric miles out of your Prius Prime. I have a 2017 Prius Prime Advanced. I have over 20,000 miles on my car and am thoroughly enjoying it. I know this video is long, but I did not want anybody saying I tried to trick them or that I really didn't get the amount of miles claimed. At the end of this video, I reveal how many miles I got on this particular day of driving. Since then, I have pushed it even further and did better.
I drove Prius for 7 years before going to Tesla. This reminds me of the pulse-and-glide technique. My second Prius was the plugin version but it was their first 2012 one. Had terrible range really compared to the new one. I would honestly consider the 2020 model but now I have a Tesla with loads of electric range but it's reliability is in the toilet compared to Toyota.
plus you can't really drive cross-country with a Tesla yet even with the extended range dual motor ones.
@@doloreschansey9556 definitely. Once you go to Colorado or utah, you barely find a gas station in hours of driving.
42.7/157.8 = 0.27 gallons of gas. Assuming you get EPA’s 54 mpg in HV mode, that’s 14.58 miles that you would get if you kept it in HV mode (including cruising). 42.7 - 14.58 = 28.12 miles. If you can get 28.12 miles out of the battery via a different driving technique, you will have a better result in terms of the final mpg. Many people get between 33 and 36 miles out of their batteries via a different technique. I suspect a different technique, while it might technically put less miles on the battery, will get you 192 mpg or so, and will put less strain on the engine.
Idk what the current status of the battery, engine, and other hybrid components are, so I just let the computer figure it out and drive gently and within reasonable expectations. This car is designed to start with the battery and kick on the engine when needed.
I care more about getting this thing to last as long as possible, and possibly convert it to a full EV with a solid state battery once the original battery goes bad.
Electric has instant torque and are way more efficient than ICE at accelerating from a stop. Your technique might save electric range, but you still spend more money accelerating with gaz. To me it seem like a an illusion of gaz saving. You would be better of using the gaz on the highway and use electric for stop and go.
Although I agree with you that there is instant torque, I have been testing this since I got my Prime in December of 2017. Unless you are Granny driving off the start which A. makes people mad and B. takes forever to get up to speed, your electric miles drop way faster than the gas miles from a start. On a side note, I just filled up with gas yesterday (June 3, 2019). My last fill up before that was April 22nd, which is 6 weeks and 2127 miles of total use. Illusion or not, I think my way is working. Thanks for watching.
The fast starting will deplete the battery sooner than any 20-30 mile estimated range that Toyota says it's supposed to get. I think you are doing it right. When I had my Prius Eco, I would accelerate fast and then let the hybrid battery do the rest. And I would always make sure it got out of EV mode by 20 mph even though it likes to stay in til 25 if it has the charge, because it uses up way too much battery just trying to get that extra 5 mph. On most normal roads, I could go maybe 15-20 mph in EV and then speed up to say 45 or 55 mph depending on the speed limit, and still go a solid mile or two in EV mode, so it doesn't matter. I can see the Prime does a lot better.
2127 on a tank means nothing relative to how efficient you are... you could get infinite if you had less than 30 mile daily trip.
@@theadventuresofmiamike2574 The gas miles will go down faster yes, but they're more expensive - about 6-10 times more expensive in most areas, yes? So are your electric miles dropping at 8 times the rate of the gas miles from starting up? No, so you can just forget all this extra button pushing and let the electric engine do its thing. You are saving tons of money. Relax. :)
@@theadventuresofmiamike2574 I have other magic trick for you, you go up the mountain on gas, you go down the mountain on electric, you get infinite miles on electric.
¿You know Toyota and every brand use EV mode for start? ¿you really think you are clever than every brand engineer of the world? think about it.
A combustion engine has a narrow margin of maximum efficiency (the perfect rpm).
The high or maximum efficiency range of an electric motor is greater, even more so if in this version you can use both electric motors. At cruising speed your combustion engine will do a better job than starting from 0.
Although the CVT gearbox(if this car has it) helps a lot.
Hey, this is a cool pair of videos you posted! My husband and I purchased a new Prius Prime in July of this year, and before the weather here in Maine got below the mid-50s, we were getting 40 miles of pure EV driving each and every time we went out! I kid you not! If you check my RUclips channel, you can see the whole trip that we took to first document the possibility of a 40-mile range. We actually did better than that, if you can believe it. Thanks again for posting fun videos for Prime lovers like ourselves!
I just got a Prius prime two weeks ago and I’ve already saved $140 in gas. Gas prices here in California right now are $3.70. I would drive a Dodge Charger 2012 18 gallon tank to work and my commute is 15 miles. I would mainly just use the dodge for work and had to fill every ten days. Right now my battery on the Prius is getting 30 miles per charge and we have a charging station at work so I don’t pay for my work commute. So I’m getting 150 plus electric miles at no charge every week. $200 plus in monthly gas savings and don’t waste time at the gas station.
Wow! Gas here currently in Florida is $2.59. And I thought that was high. Glad you are loving your Prime.
Gas here in California is about $3.80 a gallon. I drive my 2017 pretty much pn 100% electric. My commute is 23 miles and charge at work. The Prius Prime is much more enjoyable to drive on the battery. Your technique is clever but it too much work. Electric is much cheaper than gas for me so I would not bother.
Michael, I absolutely agree with you. It is work to do all of that, but it is worth it for me. I, unfortunately do not have the luxury of plugging in at work (would be nice) so I try and take advantage of every last bit of battery. Gas here currently is around $2.50/gallon but electricity will always be cheaper. I usually do around 10% of my monthly driving using hybrid and the rest is electric. My son will be 16 in a few months and will be getting my 2010 Prius when he gets his license. He has been practicing with his car. He drove mine the other day and could not believe the difference. he loved driving mine. I told him he would have to wait a few years before he could get his own Prime. Thanks for watching.
Great video, thanks for sharing! I’m waiting for the 2020s to hit dealers and jumping right in and trying this out. Don’t know how people can say that’s it’s an illusion of gas saving when u drove 3.8 miles with gas and if you were driving the car normally, you’d get 25 ish miles of EV and use up 15.7 miles of gas of that 42.7 mile trip you did...
Thanks for noticing that. They are just trolls who are trying to get me riled up. Not gonna happen. I know it works. Good luck on finding your Prime. I know you will enjoy it.
FYI you can't go by the prius display for MPG, it is notoriously off by a large margin. You'd use less gas using all EV miles up.
@@theadventuresofmiamike2574 You've been proven wrong on both an engine wear view (you're destroying it), and a price and environmental view (electric is many times cheaper, and does not destroy the environment). Stop pushing buttons :D
Even in Hybrid mode you’re eating too much of your battery and gas just because you’re using too much gas when accelerating. I completely agree that going from a stop eats your electric range, but if you keep it in the eco range you will get better results + do you really need to push/accelerate so quick? Not to mention it’s gonna be way enjoyable ride and the engine is not gonna rev like that. Going into power eats WAY more resources than in the eco range. Your average MPG is not bad, but not great it should be about 180-199.
Coming from a gen 3 prius doing 67 MPG. 52 not even trying.
Where I live, the drivers (due to the dense traffic) are pretty aggressive, and you don't want to be an obstacle when everybody else wants to get off the line. Yeah, unless you wanna be a spectacle, you gotta "punch it", I'm afraid. It is what it is, but it's not the best conditions for best mileage.
@@8a41jt i live in sf Bay Area and work in SF. Talk to me about dense traffic 😂. The prius gets of the line just fine.
@@mrsvetly Oh, I know that, especially in EV mode. But I was commenting on the presenter's fixation on hypermiling ... you really shouldn't do that in dense traffic, not if you want to be courteous to everyone around you.
When we drive in EV mode it shows 199.9, when it goes down that means the engine has been used (gas) so no you didn’t drive it only in EV mode!
I see minimal to no benefit to this... I use EV mode if it's a short trip and I can do all EV. If it's a longer trip I'll just go to HV mode. You fail to realize you can still use battery to drive car in HV mode as long as you don't accelerate heavy... also I think flooring it so much isn't good for engine or gas efficiency, but time will tell. You're just using gas to accelerate instead of electric, so not really saving anything... both are more efficient at cruising.
Andrew, I too use only EV when doing short trips, but when I am doing longer drives, I am able to maximize my electric usage by this method. I have been doing it for quite some time with the exact same effect. And you are correct, I am using gas to accelerate, that is the point. If you accelerate using electric, you will notice your electric deplete way faster than your gas will (going a half mile will/can eat up a couple miles of electric). That was the whole point of this.
@@theadventuresofmiamike2574 Yes, of course if you don't use electric to accelerate you could almost go forever just coasting... but you're also using a ton of gas which his expensive so I see no net gain by doing this vs just being aware of what method your using (EV vs hybrid modes). This is effectively what the hybrid system does already, under moderate to heavy acceleration uses gas, and when you go off pedal it will turn off engine and run in electric mode. You're just forcing it to do it more extremely, which IMO will have minimal if any net gain in cost per mile and for sure puts more stress on engine and systems so could cause failure sooner than normal.
@@Ralith09 agreed andrew, also wear and tear even on a toyota engine withall these "cold" start accelerations will take its toll. I also wonder how much wear and tear those two buttons can take if you keep driving like this. also seems like its distractive driving. focus on cars and bikes around you.
But why trying to save ev range ? Is it not better to cruise on highway in gas and use ev and hybrid in town driving?
But you use the most gas when you first start moving the car, so that's when you want to use the electric to get the best mileage. Gas is more expensive to electricity. So the best time to use electric is when you use the most gas. Going up hills, accelerating on to the highway. HV mode does that for you automatically. That's why when ever you start moving your car its 100% electric. That's how to maximize your fuel economy.
Let me add that the Atkinson cycle engines are less efficient at lower RPM, therefore there the electric assistance is crucial. So...
This is nonsense. Yes you're saving your EV range but using gas instead during acceleration. The point of a PHEV vehicle is for you to use EV on your daily commute and not gas because electricity is cheaper.
If you think about it, it makes a lot of sense. Actually saves cents. I'm assuming you have a plug in car of some sort. As you know, when you accelerate, you lose way more electric miles than you do gas miles. For instance, If I drive 2 tenths of a mile, I will use approximately 2 tenths of a mile's worth of gas. In that same 2 tenths of a mile, my electric battery will deplete somewhere between .5 and .8 miles (or more depending on highway vs city travel). And as you know, you can never regen that much electricity back when you coast or come to the next stop. That being said, using the Hybrid mode for my take-offs is the best of both worlds. I know this is working because I used to have to fill up my car twice per month. Now I am filling up about every 6 weeks. 24 fill-ups per year vs. about 8.5 per year at (at least where I live) about $25 per fill up is saving me a little under $400 per year. And I drive between 1000 and 1500 miles per month on my car. Actually, I just crossed the 25,000 mile mark today (June 12, 2019). I bought the car on December 13, 2017. So that's 1388 miles/month. Sorry to get all nerdy on you but the numbers don't lie.
His drive his 40 miles. If he would blow out his battery on accelerations, he would only have 25 miles. So, therefore, 15 mile will be on gas. This way he only used 3.8 miles of gas for acceleration
I'm a little late to the party here, but I JUST bought a 2020 Prime yesterday (In Florida...you probably know how hard they were to buy here), so I'm trying to learn how to drive it well. Great pair of videos. I'll have to watch your other ones as well.
I'm trying to digest all the comments here, your responses, their responses, etc. As well as figure out what the different modes mean (that manual is pretty big!) Do you have a post somewhere that pretty much sums up in text what you do and how you do it? And also how you hypermile in general?
Also, as an aside, I can't seem to find how to get the instantaneous MPG, like I can with my other Prius...can that even be done?
Thanks!
Holy cow. 40 mile trip, used about 1/4 gallon of gas. Jesus.
That's pretty good....but... I can easily do 50 miles in my Honda Clarity without using a drop of gas. :)
@@mowcowbell but your overall range is bad compared to the Prius prime or even ioniq. They don’t compare.
@@Fumbiii16 I can go 40-50 miles on EV, then another 250 miles on the 7 gallon gas tank in the Clarity. A good 300 miles of total range is waay more than I want to sit behind the wheel without a rest break.
@@mowcowbellyou would waste more than a Prius prime or Ioniq. It’s not even compared those two are a different level. You would have to put gas at least twice to get one single tank on the ioniq. Plus more. Ioniq blue which gets nearly 700 with good weather.
@@Fumbiii16 Guess you care more about long range than I do. Good luck.
Hi, I enjoyed your video and your method. I have a question. First let me say that I have driven a Prius V since 2013 and I love it. I am going to buy a new Prius Prime or RAV 4 Prime. On both of those cars you can press and hold the hv/ev button for a couple of seconds and it will lock on the gas engine so that it will charge the battery while you drive. Do the older Primes not have this feature? If it does, you would not have to floor the accelerator to make it stay in ICE! It would just take a second longer and then you would not have to wait on the car ahead of you to get ahead a ways. You could take off at a normal rate of acceleration and the car would stay in
ICE mode until you repressed EV button. Not only would this be better for your gas engine, but you will gain some charge for your battery. I am guessing that this must be a newer feature and not available on your 2017. Thank you.
This charge mode feature is on my 2017 Prius Plug in (UK) and Sounds like a great idea
Good question; I wonder if this version of the Prius lacks the charge mode or whether he did not know about the press and hold to activate it. 🤔
Can’t you have the car determine the optimum gas/electric choices by selecting the hybrid mode?
Diane, there are three driving modes on the Prius Prime. Hybrid, Hybrid/EV, and Sport. Sport uses only gas and supposedly gives you more "pep" (lol). Hybrid is gas and electric that switches back and forth like the conventional Prius does depending on speed, how much accelerator used, etc. And lastly, Hybrid/EV will keep you in electric mode until you run out and then switch you into Hybrid when that battery is depleted. The problem I have seen with the Hybrid mode is that it will use more gas than electric and that's not what I'm going for. Since electric only costs me 88 cents to fill my battery, the more electric I can squeeze out of my Prius, the cheaper it will be to operate in the long run. When I manually switch into Hybrid mode instead of letting the car determine when to do so, it lets me dial in my gas vs. electric usage. On a typical 40 mile trip, depending on if I get on the highway or not, I may use 3 miles of gas. This leaves me with 37 miles of electric usage and I may still have some battery left over. Since where I live, electric costs me 88 cents to fill up my battery vs. currently about $2.50/gallon for gas, electric is the way to go and probably will always be that way. Since using this method, I have gone from filling up my car with gas twice per month vs now only filling up every 6 weeks. I've cut my "fuel" costs by more than 1/3. For me, that's at least $25/month. I'll take it. Hope this answers your question. Thanks for watching.
@@theadventuresofmiamike2574 be careful not to let your gasoline go bad in the tank by not using it in time. I could easily go weeks without going past my ev mode battery
YES. Toyota R SMART.
Over revving kills the petrol and puts more wear and tear on the engine! Start with electric and switch to petrol when less power is needed. Electric motor is more efficient at the start and the petrol engine is efficient to keep the car rolling.
Hey man I'm sorry that I am so busy Between work and kids that I can't sit and watch your entire videos but I am truly happy with the bits that I have gotten so far, I would really love to talk to you some more on this press because I am so intrested in getting myself another one, in the same breath There are a few concerns I not love to talk to you and get your feedback
Absolutely, any time.
@@theadventuresofmiamike2574 OK Thank you, I am very much intrested in Purchasing one of the 2017 to 19 priuses because of the savings when it comes on to gas and of course environment and whoa talk about technology, But what also concerned about Also Is the not so satisfying sound of the engine, Can you tell me anything about how the engines sound no with this new generation? I love the car but he the sound and is there anything that can be done to give a little more satisfaction in that regard?
@@theoxygen876 Well, let's face it, it's no Lamborghini, lol. That being said, this is my second Prius, the other one is a 2010 that my son drives. They both sound similar in hybrid mode (to me). Of course there is no sound other than wind and tires when in electric mode. Be careful by the way, I have almost hit some animals because they cannot hear me approach them. I owned a 1965 AC Shelby Cobra with a 460 super cobra jet in it. Man that was a beast and had a satisfying sound to it. I did not buy the Prius for the sound of the engine. I now own a Jeep (14 mpg) and an Rv (6-7 mpg) so for me it is more satisfying to not have to put gas in my Prius but about every 6 weeks or so. By the way, my last fill up was June 6th and I'm trying to make it to Sept. 6th for a new personal record. Sorry I can't be more help on the engine part but I hope you get yours soon and enjoy it as much as I do mine.
@@theadventuresofmiamike2574 Oh man, I am so crazy about the car, I was told that in drive mode the engine comes alive
@@theoxygen876 Lol. I've actually never had it in sport mode. I'm too worried it will kill my electric...lol. Let me know how it drives.
Can you increase battery regeneration miles by using the braking gear when approaching a stop?
Absolutely you can. The best way to do it is to coast while approaching the stop while gradually applying the brakes. If you slam on the brakes, you will get very little regeneration.
Note I am not a troll. I love videos where people think outside the box to try and determine the most efficient ways to do things. However, I have some pointers. Oil is spread throughout the engine when it is running, when the engine is off, it is not. Popping into HV mode exactly at the time you put the pedal to the floor will create excessive wear on the engine internals as they will heat up very rapidly with no oil to protect the surfaces or cool them until the pump can send some oil their way. I always treat the moment the ICE coming on as softly as possible to allow the oil to flow throughout the engine before beating the crap out of it. I highly suggest you stop doing that. Your battery is not gaining range, I was confused by this at first also. The number is a guess calculated by the vehicles system on how many miles you will see in electric mode only. It starts out assuming you will drive it in all ranges, ie not shifting it out of EV mode when accelerating. The number will continue to climb for some time because the more you use the EV mode for only cruising/coasting, you are changing the calculation every time you drive. There is some situations where using the ICE instead of EV does make sense, but I don't think this is getting you ahead. Perhaps try to accelerate with the ICE keeping it in the ECO range? Not sure as I haven't tried this. What I can tell you is that I drive 52.8 miles round trip to work on mixed highway/city between 40-73 mph everyday to work, and I average better than you are in the 42 mile trip you are taking in about the same weather. All I do is drive it normal, maybe a bit on the conservative side, and I usually average 170-180 mpg. For comparison, its a 2017 Prime Advanced, just me in the car and I weigh 250, use cruise ALL the time.
Michael Wooden True that!
I had to read this twice just to make sure I did not misunderstand? You may not be a troll but what you're saying and doesn't make sense since when you do have it on hybrid mode it's doing the same thing running the motor and then shutting it off and then running it? The only difference is that he's manually doing it instead of it being automatic on HP/EV.
@@heatherforever1000 In Hybrid mode the gas engine comes on frequently. With what he is doing it comes on very rarely, ONLY when he starts up from lights, and ONLY when it is accelerating hard. Huge difference, hence his warning.
Good analysis. Also gas miles and electric miles are not the same price-wise or energy-wise, so using a little extra electric is a GOOD THING.
Thank's for your suggestions and tips. Wholesome Content. How much did you pay for yours dude? mine was $58,000?
Nice job on the video. Just watched your video for the 3rd time. The dash does offer the driver the amplify to modify driving in real time, or as I do leave a lot of the highway portions to the Adaptive cruise Control.
Can I suggest the large Display may offer an interesting Animated Display input for your driving feedback. Tap Menu on the right Vertical Console Buttons right side of the large display, Info then Energy. At different points in a drive I find myself checking either display to see how the car is allocating energy around the car. The 2012 Gen 3 was primitive compared to the 2022.
I’ve been driving a Prime Limited for 4 weeks. As mentioned you are using a Prius well documented what we called “Pulse & Glide”, but it works, no question. The technique will upset drivers nearby as you appear impaired, as you are with a higher goal than just going from Point A to Point B. It is intoxicating. I’ve driven Porsches, Prius connection with the car is at a different level.
On one trip I was lucky enough to be sitting behind a cab driver in Hokkaido Japan and watched his technique for a 45 minute drive. He never nailed it. Everything was simply so smooth. My 2012 was strong when I traded, but enjoying the decade advanced 2022 (at the end) of Gen 4 model.
Great freaking video thank you so much for posting💪🏾😎
My brain is telling my to buy a Prius prime but my heart is telling me to get a Tesla model 3.
Prius prime has more range. 640 > 358
Prius has the best of both worlds. One driving mode is the contingency of the other
This is a crazy obsession to save gas. If you wanna save gas go full electric. Im sure the Toyota engineers know what they're doing 😁😁
Thanks for these videos Mike!
I have just got myself a prime plus for a steal. My question is, would hypermiling like this stress or damage the motors in any way?
Welcome to the club! I often wondered the same thing. I've been doing this method since late December 2018. I hope not, but that's what the warranty is for. It doesn't say you cannot go back and forth from one mode to the next but since I believe I am the only one who thought of this (including Toyota), this could be uncharted territory. I am just trying to max out my electric usage and pass on any and all information so that others can enjoy their electric cars as well. Thanks for watching.
The Adventures of Mia & Mike got it. Thanks for the prompt reply!
Have you seen your battery health degrade significantly at all from hypermiling?
@@p4rth905 Actually it has increased! When I first got my Prime, a fully charged battery would read somewhere in the 26-27 mile range on the display. This would obviously depend on weather (I had it in the 24 range in the winter). Now, since using my technique, I am in the high 30's and even got a 40.0 just the other day. Usually it's somewhere between 38.5 and 39.5. I have several pics on my phone of my display and I take a new one every time I set a new record. The 40.0 was on June 3rd, 2019. I wish RUclips would let us post pics on the threads. I can't explain it other than thinking Toyota has throttled the battery and somehow I am able to unlock more range. Hope this helps.
The Adventures of Mia & Mike wow! That is incredible. Congrats! Ive been hypermiling the other day and got around 30 miles! And I think there is an option to post a picture on your youtube channel, Im not sure tho.
@@theadventuresofmiamike2574 Hi, I admire this video and people trying to squeeze the best out of their Prius.
The engine as a 1.8 l petrol is an efficient and reliable Toyota engine with high quality components. In a pure combustion engine revs are needed to lubricate the engine with oil. Fast cold starts increase engine wear. In the Toyota hybrid models the lubricant/oil will circulate in both combustion and e-CVT (where the motors are) in EV mode. Your technic should not put your engine under stress. This is as you live in Florida colder states and Canada will be putting their engine under more stress as oil is thicker and has to warm up first (blockheater helps here).
Second, unfortunately your battery is not increasing in capacity but your board computer is adapting to your driving style and projecting you a better estimate. This range estimate is calculated and based on use of ev mode, break and acceleration usage as well as average speeds.
Toyota's batteries are of high quality and using the battery as you do is drawing less instant current from the battery meaning you have a good chance of keeping your battery for long. To see health of battery check in diagnostics for any cells going low on charge.
Lastly make sure to carry out frequent oil changes for cvt and engine regardless of board computer messages and keep your internal battery filter clean and fresh.
All the best, all times good driving
Chemistry teacher spotted, welcome to "the nerd highschool"
another fellow croomie?
You can do the same without leaving the hybrid mode if you accelerate carefully. As long as you keep the throttle in the lower half of the range, it won't use the ICE at all, until you run out of battery or floor it.
The whole point is to use gas only outside electric range ... And doing this constant switching - is annoying. Get a better electric range car and drive without the stress
Thank you for your comment. Actually, it doesn't stress me out. I get a kick of trying to better my performance. You certainly don't have to use my technique. This video is for people who really want extend their range. And for that matter, I priced out the difference between the Prius and, say, a Tesla. It would take 19 years of ownership for the Tesla to be a better deal than the Prius. The Prius is also better at safety than the Bolt. I didn't choose the Leaf because it is only good for around 119 electric miles. All in all, the Prime is an excellent car and worth every penny. What year is your Prime?
Im sorry I dont understand why you get to speed so fast using motor, doesnt that in return get worse gas mileage? Sorry Im new to the Prius and want to learn as much as I can about it
Don't you travel a longer distance ín EV-mode if you get up tó speed quickly using the ICE? Isn't that counter productive tó what you want? (Maximize EV-range). And punching it (unnecessarily strong acceleration) worsens your mpg on top of that.
The ideas people have sometimes is amazing 🤦
too bad computer doesn't copy your driving style
Trying to decide between 2020 Prius AWD vs 2020 Prius Prime - which one would be a better on gas and more practical car? I don't have a garage, so I'd have to charge through the extension cord running from the basement while my car is parked next to my house - assuming that's not a fire hazard??
Veronica Convery Prius AWD same hybrid system you can get 3.2-3.5L/100kms on the highway if you are on 100-115km/hrs Cruze control
I charge my Prius outside every day. I had an electrician come it and install a 220v with a weather cover. Has worked ever since I got it in December 2017. I honestly couldn't tell you about the AWD Prius, but I still absolutely love my Prime. I now have 30,000 miles on it after 2 years and still love driving it.
What are your thoughts on why Toyota wouldn’t have the car operate in this fashion full time if it’s really more efficient?
Good question Robert. Probably the same reason Tesla has their battery throttled and can change the end user's capacity if/when needed. I think it would be hard for them to create an algorithm that does that every time you start your car from a stop. Perhaps they don't even know about it. Maybe I stumbled on something and this will allow Toyota to improve mileage even more (Toyota, are you listening? lol). I don't use it all the time because I am constantly keeping stats so I can report back to everyone my results. But it's not that hard to do if you're not keeping track of every tenth mile of hybrid usage. Also, bear in mind that I am doing relatively hard starts which is the opposite of hyper-miling. That being said, it is still worth it because I am using very little gas and super extending my battery capacity. I will be filling my gas tank up in a couple days. The last fill up was on April 22nd, so I'm not wasting much gas if any. Thanks for watching.
It's not more efficient is why... if you think you're smarter than all of Toyota...
Now hypermiling I'd absolutely possible and does get good results, but flooring it with gas and manually switching back to EV mode is what the car already does in HV mode fyi
I would have to try this technique with a full tank of gas, and again doing it the traditional way to see if I'm getting a higher total miles per gallon.. yes you might have more electric miles...but does your total miles increase at a full tank of gas? Every time you accelerate on the gas you are wasting fuel.
No it doesn’t. That is exactly what I said above that you commented on and said I didn’t make any sense. I was trying to tell the poster 2 things.
1: Treating your engine that way is not wise.
2: By only using the electric drive during coasting only, your all electric range will be higher, but at the cost of gasoline range being significantly lower. The electric range guesstimate the car gives you doesn’t matter as much as overall efficiency.
In the end, just driving it normally is as good without all the wear and tear.
I don’t agree with this, i can get 27 to 35 miles on the freeway going electric only, just remember electricity is cheaper than gas
So your trick to get max electric miles is to use the gas engine instead? That's not much of a trick.
Your electric range conclusion is false, your time in hv mode is recharging the battery. Also the loss of efficiency by punching the gas got you a terrible 157.9 mpg. My worst winter time average is higher. Try running your normal route your way for a month then the car's way the next month shooting for a minimum score of 95
Actually Jon, the only time you are recharging your battery is when you are coasting, applying the brakes, or in B mode. If my foot is on the accelerator, I am using battery (or gas), not recharging it (there is a gauge on your dash telling you what is going on). I'm only accelerating for between 1/10th of a mile or when I am going on the highway maybe 1/2 mile. I have data for every day I have driven my car since the day I bought it on December 13, 2017. I do drive both ways. It depends how I am driving. If I am going non-stop somewhere I will use my method. If I am doing a lot of stops, I will drive it normally. I actually have a video if you would like to see it where you can see my excel data sheet. The only thing we agree on is that my driving score is horrific. But I will take it when I can get 40 plus miles of electric. I am pretty sure I am the only one (besides Toyota) who is nerdy enough to do data like this.
@@theadventuresofmiamike2574 You are wrong and damaging your car good luck.
@@jonsolo9694 Thank you for your input. Have a great day.
In Electric mode only, does it have a speed restriction?
Yes, at 84 mph it will switch to hybrid mode.
I did that today and made my battery go up but I live up the hill my job is 40 miles away I go down and up the hill what I was thinking of doing is to use by battery when coming up to save gas it gave me 123 miles a gallon in my first drive but then coming up again I got about 60 miles a gallon but with no battery can you help me on what to do when coming up the hill ? It’s a steep hill maybe around 20 miles but the road to get to my house I can’t really go fast cause a lot of curves so I have to have my foot on the gas it’s really dark and dangerous to go fast so am guessing this is ideal for the prime
This is about the same thing the car will do automatically if you put it in EV AUTO and stop on it from a stop.
Ok batteries last longest 20-80% charge. Interesting to see if you are shaving years of battery life off because you are charging up to 100% and running it flat.
You know, I have thought about that but perhaps it is built into the battery and charging system. There is nothing in the manual that says you cannot run it to empty. For example, Battleborn batteries have 100 amp hour batteries that actually have more capacity but they have I believe they are called BCM's which are mini computer banks designed to monitor the battery and keep it from overcharging, undercharging, etc. Perhaps those are on these. I hope they are. that would solve that issue.
The car even shows it only discharges the battery to 30% because it needs some battery for hybrid mode and the battery only charges to about 90%
But electricity is 6 times cheaper than gas so using electricity is always better.
I wouldn't say 6 times, at least in Central Florida. Break even point to have to switch over to gas is if it ever hit under $1.40 per gallon. Not likely to ever happen again. But I understand what you are saying.
What is the point, you if really want get higher than 25 you should get car do more. Turning on and off EV is too much work to safe less than $1 of gas.
My advice just charge it at work then you have 25 miles to drive home. Total of 50 miles.
Thanks for your opinion, but remember, this video is for people who either have a Prius Prime and want to get more from their car, or they are looking at the Prime or other options. No one said you had to buy a Prime, but it is a great car and I love it. I am unable to charge mine at work, so this works for me. Also, it isn't any more work than all those idiots out there who are constantly checking their phones, changing the radio station, etc. Actually it's less work, and safer, than being on your phone.
by charging battery over 80% and discharging it less than 20% is extremely harmful and killing your battery !!
That’s why you buy a new battery. Either way battery will die and won’t last just like teslas battery. You got to replace.
In a hybrid the battery management system does not fully charge or discharge the battery. As a result the same cells in a hybrid battery will last longer than in a BEV. When the battery cells in a plug-in hybrid eventually need to be replaced, you only need to buy about 10kWh rather than 40kWh or more for a BEV battery pack.
@@backwoodsbungalow9674 you still have to replace it, it doesn’t matter if you deplete it to zero or not. Nothing last forever. Either way it’s being replaced just like every other EV out there. New battery as well as cells.
Or just buy an ev, like my 2019 Leaf SV + with 215 epa miles
Good question; brief explanation at 1:24. Using the gas engine to get up to speed avoids eating up energy from the battery. That makes sense but it seems odd to accelerate so harshly with the horrible exhaust noise. At 1:55 he seems to be saying that if you accelerate gradually the car will use the electric motor even though he has switched to Hybrid mode. 🤔
If you can live with the limited range (and the episodes of range anxiety that goes with it), good for you!!
This guy cheat people, used more gas and show long distance electric mode.Make no sense spend more money for gas>