We in the US have a problem with reflection because some can't separate guilt from accountabity. Therefore, we see legislation that's actively removing anything approaching self-reflection in our history classes.
What is perceived as "hypocrisy" may have legitimate justifications and different circumstances. For example, Hamas attacked Israel first, whereas Ukraine did not attack Russia first.
To hold the present population accountable for the long dead prior generations. Should you pay the debt of your deceased father and mother and brother and sister? One has to move on eventually. One has to say, it is time to focus less on debt and more on creating value of our own.
@PolicyFailureIsExpensive I'm simply talking about acknowledgement. Nothing in what I said mentioned anything about paying debts. There is something called nuance. Forcing you to pay for a wrong of your father is no better than whitewashing. It's important to acknowledge history and that doesn't have a prerequisite for guilt. Just because some may go too far with something like the idea of reparations does not override the importance of being honest with ourselves. Throwing the baby out with the bath water is overkill and prevents us from moving forward as you desire.
I think Average Infantryman Cappy is the wrong person to ask a political question of Western hypocrisy. Middle powers like Indonesia and India have LOT of issues with State Department, not Pentagon. Cappy, (rightly so) did not give a satisfactory answer.
Well the State Department AND the Pentagon are heavily intertwined. And I would argue the issues well go beyond the State Department especially with regards to Indonesia.
I considered Neocons to be worst cancer in US politics in last 30-40 years, and then we got Liberal Interventionism. Have you thought that between Democracy and Authocracy, worst choice is Failed State, especially if it is caused by foreign intervention, and worst at all, if you even cannot flee to any decent country?
I look at undermining US credibility is a good thing. This chips away at globalization in one more avenue. Ending globalization is the ultimate geopolitical goal. Ending the global shipment and trade in goods.
I disagree with the American audience on what's good for American is important. You cannot impose America on others. That's American are hated and other countries are boycotting like dropping American dollars and your sanctions are not working countries are going other groups like brics.
I am not sure how BRICS is supposed to work as long as two of the major members are at each others' throats, and another harbours secret plans against those two, and again, one of the former two also harbours similar designs against said third party. If you know what I mean, good for you. If you do not, shame on you. Be it as it may though, while the West will lose regardless of the outcome of Ukraine, India is sure to lose a great deal if Ukraine wins.
Liberalism is based on the assumption that conflict is an inherent feature of human nature. So there is nothing wrong to stir up conflicts between groups and nations and ensure your own dominance in the world. But this is a fallacy, to assume that conflict is a feature of human nature. People get into conflict situations because of the social setting they grow up and has to do with poverty, lack of education, and political manipulation of the masses. It has nothing to do with human nature or democracy. The US has been waging wars on these false assumptions of a "belligerent human nature" that needs to be tamed. Well, it seems Liberalism has run its course and the people of the world no longer believe the American narrative of "freedom and democracy" as an excuse to wage wars around the world.
To me, the meta is that post Bretton Woods, we've been guaranteeing freedom of navigation (and thus, freedom of trade) for our adversaries. China would be NOTHING without this; the country imports its food, means to produce the food it does produce, and industrial inputs, including energy. The totality of its state is built on heavily subsidizing manufacturing for export. We have been doing this for so long that people have forgotten what the world was like before. We haven't known any other way. The US has a LOT of relationships as a result of the Cold War. If you joined our club, you gained the opportunity to prosper through trade, and many, many nations did exactly that. Absolutely, the US's actions can at times seem hypocritical. Sometimes, we get things completely wrong. We have an exaggerated startle response. The last time someone startled us (by flying some planes into some buildings), we went to war for over 20 YEARS. That incident was partially funded by citizens of a nation that depends on the US for its physical survival. During the conduct of that war, we thumped an organization in one country while funding it in another. That's that massive Venn diagram of relationships at work, plus the need of the moment, plus fallibility. Absolutely, we can be heavy-handed. If you want to dump dollars because you're irritated with us, dump dollars. The only other viable safe-haven economy that can absorb the liquidity of nations is Europe, and our relationship with Europe isn't going to change fundamentally. Countries like ruzzia, Iran, the DPRK, China and others want us out of the way. ruzzia wants its empire back. China wants to build one. Empire building is bloody and kinetic work, just ask the Ukrainians. If you really, really want us out of the way, please consider what that will look like. The absolutely chilling thing is that we AGREE with you. As Chris said, we never got a peace dividend. Our energy needs are met potentially for centuries, certainly decades of stable pricing, so we're re-shoring manufacturing at an insane pace and forging relationships that actually benefit us. What happens to your country if you industrialized and can't get oil because the tankers keep getting stolen? What happens to your country if you didn't industrialize and a regional power has thoughts of empire? I'm afraid that we're all going to find out.
in theory europe, EU would have power to secure trade in key points where US now has lot of bases: middle east, red sea roughly. but looking european politics, staying that united what it requires is another question. even china could over time take that role if US totally withdraws. ironically US is pretty neutral now as they have domestic oil production, so no need for urgent oil rush. every other place in world with strong economy is big net importer thus it would be domestic security issue and thus aggressive competition. CIA and other non military ways have been way more beneficial,succesful than military actions.
This is unfortunately the predominant view American have of themselves. Reinforced by their politicians, media and Zeihen. They don't see through the delusion. Like America protecting sea lanes for the world with patrolling aircraft carriers? There were and are piracy all over the world, a bit less since the 20th century but Somalia should have dispel this ridiculous assumption. Trade has flowed in Asia for thousands of years before the appearance of western powers. And when they did, it was to plunder. Western ships were the pirates, you needed protection from. To say that America missed out on the peace dividend is another ridiculous assertion, western corporation dominated and still dominates the world's land and energy ownership. Sanctions kills children and civilians. Western corporations are still depraving local inhabitants the use of their land. America and the G7 isn't the victim, it is the evil empire.
The USA and western nations are far more reliant on the global south for the basic raw material inputs and parts to make practically anything. Even our medical industry would come grinding to a halt without access to the chemical starters needed for medicine synthesis.
This is one of the very few "conversations " I has to stop what I was doing and focus on what is being said. I thoroughly enjoyed y'alls Brain Dumps! I'll probably circle back around and listen to y'all again as I know I missed a bunch.. I'm a 69 year young Vet and not easily impressed and you both impressed the hell outta me! Thanks! Now I gotta get back to one of my projects....thanks again, Gentlemen! Outstanding presentation!
We shouldn't forget the expenses from refugees and anti-terror caused by US American misadventures in the Middle East, that European allies pay. Nor the tax dollars and jobs created by billions spent on US Military technology And don't forget: 31 allies and 600 milion more people, 2 additional Security Council seats, acces to military facilities all over the world. Not to mention en extra 31 police forces, diplomatic corps, national and international intelligence agencies. This is something that adds immeasurable weight and power to US foreign policy and deterrence.
The problem with a lot of this conversation is , that with the autocratic countries the people as a whole have no say & the leaders don't want any change that would undermine their total power & never will . Most of these autocratic countries could flourish under a more democratic system BUT they never will .... unfortunately .
Western Academic scholars had long said in US you can change party with the duopoly, but you can't change policies, in China you cannot change party a one party monopoly, but you can change policies, Chinese government had constantly adjusted their policies to benefit their people
People seem to forget, or just don't know history, but the 1960s were multitudes more unstable than currently. Political and civil assassinations, Vietnam War, the hippie/peace movement, etc. which were several times more disruptive than anything were dealing with today. Everyone thinks their time is much more important than past, but it's not. 1960s were a lot crazier than anything going on today.
Good conversation. I think, in general, analyses of hegemonic powers, medium powers, statecraft, etc kinda tend to leave out this important fact: this is about human beings. I think powerful people sometimes have more in common with each other, across nations, than the less powerful people living in those nations, just working and trying to raise their families. That being what it is, it's always helpful to isolate the conflict in this way: calmly sit down with the other party, list everything you have in common, list everything you agree on, and then list what the differences are. The lists of commonalities are usually huge and the lists of differences are usually much smaller. That makes things that appear to transcend manageability into things that are important, but more manageable. That makes them not-existential. Nations don't fight wars over conflicts that aren't existential. People don't fight wars with each other, inside nations, over things that honestly aren't existential. Try starting right there. Good luck, we're all counting on you.😃
Imbalance of power or the perception of imbalance of power is what drives the ppl in power on one side to ignore the grievances of the other side. As a consumer, you might hv a grievance against Amazon or Walmart which are retail giants. The chance that your grievance gets settled after trying a few months to get heard is probably nil. You decide to take your case to court and hope it will get you somewhere. When such grievances happen between nations, depending on the extent of the issues at hand, these might be settled by force to get the attention and get the other side to the table to negotiate in good faith with the whole world as witness. But if one side feels like their name is hegemon and they have no intention to settle in good faith and their true intention is to weaken the other side until the existential threat is fulfilled, even a 10 yr old can tell what the hegemon is up to. And that's also when you see the full force of the propaganda machine on both sides go into full gear.
@@bobmorane4926 I respectfully disagree with the Walmart analogy: grievance against Walmart in capitalism leads to consumers telling their friends and neighbors about their experience, and that leads to people taking their business elsewhere. That leads to Walmart either shutting down stores or doing a course correction if they want to stay in business. It is a bottom-up, consumer-based check against abusing the consumer. The solution in capitalism is more about consumer choice, in other words, and less about taking cases to court - that happens, but the bigger check against abuse is the consumer writ large. Why before the American Revolution the colonists did stuff like the home spun movement, the Boston Tea Party, etc. Part of this was this part of the American colonists feeling that the British East India Tea Company was a global, government-backed Walmart with an army that could price dump, drive out competition and then raise the price of consumer goods without local businesses that could then compete. Competition is a hedge against hegemonic abuses. The US consistently talks this way to China, about being "competitors," and honestly it makes sense to us but I don't think it makes sense to them. If you're trying to resolve conflicts with words instead of guns, it's important to, you know, use words in ways that your opponent can grock.
@@jenniferkruse7269 I think China isn't considered a competitor. It's an adversary. You understood the tea party issue and the imbalance of power and yet you're turning a blind eye to your country's hegemonic behavior or in other words , bully behavior. Your rule based order has no meaning when everday the whole world sees the hegemon breaks its own rules and pretends its acting to defend the rule based order. So what does it make Americans look like when they apply one rule for the rest of the world and make exceptions for themselves. Hypocrits. The result won't be pretty bcos westerners are most concerned abt saving their face than admitting to their guilt and the horrors they hv created. And that's what they think the Chinese are mostly concerned abt saving face when in reality it's the West which will do everything to bend the narrative and try to save face.
@@jenniferkruse7269 Grievances between nations don't really follow a capitalist model of demand and supply and following clear cut rules. The UN is always there but that never prevented the US to invade Iraq, Libya based on false pretenses made up of fabricated evidence like "Nayirah's false testimony". It's always been abt hegemonic power based on small d*ck syndrome or insecurities of that guy (China) becoming an existential threat to me in the future (i.e military and economically more powerful) . Jeff Sachs in this recent video , talking to a bunch of billionaires , all Trump supporters, couldn't explain it better and so clearly. The US doesn't care about values (human rights or free speech) or whatever it claims it fights for . All it does is look for its own interest and play Russian roulette with the planet's destiny knowing full well that playing these games with the 2 other superpowers is equivalent to tossing a coin toward a nuke war with either China or Russia. And Jeff knows better than anyone as he actually spent years doing those negotiations between Russia and US and also at the United Nation over several decades of his career. ruclips.net/video/uvFtyDy_Bt0/видео.html
@@jenniferkruse7269 I'd love to reply to you but everytime i give an adult reply , my comment is removed. Not sure if it's youtube or the channel admin. But anyway the commenting is really biased in favor of the hegemon, any other opinion is savagely suppressed.
I was tentatively hopeful that this discussion might have been grounded in reality based upon the clip at the start, but after 5 minutes of standard goreign policy blob unthought my hopes were dashed. If I wanted yet another discussion about why every bad decision weve made for 30 years was our only choice I could have just cracked open a foreign affairs article. Cappie's assertion at the start that understanding and grappling with the history of our conflicts with coutries like Iran is a counterproductive exercise was honesly shocking to hear. I lost a lot of respect for him when he said that, I expected better.
@@theglobalgambit To no longer station any US military (troops or weapons systems) in a continent that is not the USA. The people want isolationism, in fact need it. On top of that populations across the world constituting 80%+ want the USA to retreat bar a few proxies here and there. The question comes down to whether Americans actually want to die on a beach or in the woods somewhere for small nations that are going to collapse anyway to any of the numerous major and local powers that are forming across the world. Technology parity - the velocity of information sharing - as well as innate productive capacities has basically rendered the tech supremacy "pax americana" over.
There is an Italian geopolitical analyst, the best, Dario Fabbri, he held a conference in Australia last week. He says that Americans are a depressed people and the pharmaceutical data should be Also due to the fact that it has been many years since USA is behind many things and IN recent years it no longer has the confidence to move and fight even 3 wars at a time. . You find yourself a bit disconcerted by all these "regime" states that create chaos everywhere
This reminds me of M&M's, Reese's cups or whoever it was, two great taste that taste great together. In this case it's two people with great taste together, lol. I enjoyed your conversations together.
At the 22:24 min mark, Mr. Cappy states something that is every problematic with tons of pundits, not only him, with poorly explaining this issue of sending is military aid here, he says "....people they talk about how we shouldn't be funding war in Ukraine, we shouldn't be wasting dollars over there when we have so much trouble in America...". This highlights two things based on ignorance, firstly, people literally think that we are sent bags of money here in Ukraine, which is complete and utter nonsense, it's the VALUE OF OLD PENTAGON HARDWARE THAT IS RETIRED, it's not new money! As Frederick Kagan on Bill Kristol's show on YT, put it - ""Ukraine is being sent....40 billion or whatever, worth of stuff....they are not being sent cash....". Secondly, since when does the Pantagon reallocate money to pay for schools, hospitals etc. ? Never. Why are Americans so ignorant of how the Pentagon works! Anyway, my main point is Chris did not explain this properly, Frederick Kagan, & Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges, are the only ones I have heard who explain this properly. You really need to get Frederick Kagan on the show Ptoyr, if you can awing it and chat about that.
Theses are clowns. They low key fill their stream with russian talking points. Like 80/20 so far. I've seen this many times. Over time the BS will increase. The Host outright states he doesnt believe 8n 1991 borders.
@@theglobalgambit Cheers Pyotr, I only discovered you chan recently and am glad to have found it! As a relevant FYI for you, I found the exact part in the clip, I cannot paste inks as my comments get zapped for some reason, but if you search on RUclips for the name of the video at the end of this comment and go to the 48:30 min mark and watch from there for like 2 mins. Mr Kagan, makes a firm point of how this is miscommunicated in the mass media (It'll be the 4th one down in the search, make sure it's the one from 11 months ago) - Fred Kagan on Ukraine: Where Things Stand 11 months ago Conversations with Bill Kristol
so they are being given older hardware at a loan while degrading Russia for the US without cost of lives to the US? That sounds like a really good deal for the US. However for the Ukrainian people, this cold calculation of costs means that they are just pawns in an economic/political game.
And also Jake Broe explains this well.Maybe get him on.He also has given the best explanation of the USA'S "open border " problem.If you get Jake Broe on, please ask him about both of those issues.
Word of advice from a non-western citizen if you don't want your adversaries to come together, do not preach your values too much and genuinely stop interfering in other country's internal matters. Having just an honest and good business relationship with any country will prevent them from joining your adversaries.
Other countries should follow the UN charter. I will not respect any country of culture who treats women or lgbtq people as second class citizens, yet demands respect from the rest of the world. You can not tolerate intolerance.
@@antlerman7644 this is the debate. this discussion should be happening everywhere and not pushed aside. harsh decisions then must be made if want to follow this.
0 seconds ago WHAT RIGHT DO THE HEADS OF US, NATO AND EU HAVE TO DECLARE THEMSELVES GODS OF OUR WORLD WETHER OUR WORLD GETS ANNIHILATED AND EACH OF US DIES EACH HUMAN BEING IN OUR WORLD SHOULD RISE UP AND STOP THEIR POWER GRABBING AND THEIR DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR 😖😖😖😖😖
NATO's nowhere in Asia but I will be happy to see Ukraine win. Don't want America weakened and then convince the Pinoys that they can take Sabah simply by getting China to look the other way.
To any Americans complaining that Canada isn't spending enough on defense, I'd just like to remind you that in the past two world wars, we had boots on the ground in Europe LONG before you pulled your thumbs out of your asses and decided to help! And we didn't have much of a budget then either! Do we need to touch your boats to get you to move? Is that what it takes?
No mater how much one loves the US, nothing lasts forever, regardless of technological change, in fact technological advancement might have expedited the speed of the cycle and globalized it in a way, the world became smaller and the rest of the world is headed for downfall in lock step to the US, in essence the world became one empire, the population decline in the West is a global issue now, it affects China and Latin America, all corners of the world is under this stress that the US globalized with its ideals, who falls first and who recovers first is the question unlike in the time of Rome, when it was in decline, others were not, it got invaded and the cycle restarts quickly because not every empire is in the same stage of decline; now the situation is different, most powers are in a close enough stage of decline and when the world order collapses, we will find ourselves in a larger world once again contrary to the smaller world of today; frontiers rather than borders will be the norm once again just like in the old times.
I asked CHATgpt about Ukraine Russia war i asked about why Russia should not be concerned about Ukraine joining nato and being NATO's military in ukraine but no military can enter in Colombia or Mexico at usa border, CHATgpt said because nato in defensive allianceband Russia should not be concerned.
I can understand the imperialist Western nation joining up to support Britain in a war with great powers, but why would any countries in the majority global south support Britain in yet another imperialist and neo-colonialist wars?? Your slanted views on Western Domination is the very view that will bring you down crashing hard!!! 😢😢😢
Who's saying those wars are being waged? the only one who's doing that is Russia. Besides empire and imperialist nations are simply expansionist polities who failed to translate their territorial gains into real nation building. We do not call Russia an empire, because it has proven to be more successful than Britain in the art of expansionism.
We are evolving off of the planet. Want to follow Elon to another planet? Sadly when we create what is already a biologically unlivable planet we take thousands of species with us. Its NOT about species competition as what is taught in population studies. This is suicide. This is anti-evolution.
mostly sponsored by local country as I understand it. however many local countries dont invest in equipment and troop training like US does, not in same quantity anyways. for big HQ type bases Im not familiar how funding of those work.
@@UniversalAwareness101 so tell me what concerns you? chinese taking over euro or the americas after africa, s. China sea, taiwan or antartica? I love surprises, thanks. if euro countries allow usa bases rent free then they are paying some already towards nato security was my thinking; whats yours?
Please we must respect each other special for western they're talking about Democraciy human rights USA NATO and Israel if it's true we are following for them but it's the main tolls for the interest of USA NATO and Israel open your eyes
Pyotr kurzin, You're making that guy to be confused, just leave him his own military analysis and conflicts in the world, Chris cappy is a former US military forces, he doesn't likes much about politics, US and it's vassal western countries hypocrisy and double standards. I normally comment abusive words in his Task&Purpose, he don't get angry, just a polite guy and intellectual fighter.
Americans will benefits alot if US goverment stop sticking their noise kn every countries internal affairs and stop thinking u american are better than others.
You guys should go back to school be careful in using the term autocrat and democratic country. You are desrecpecting democratic countries as autocrat just because their leader has very high approval ratings like Putin almost 90%, Rx-Ores Duterte in Philippines with same almost 90% approval ratings and democratic like America who got only 51% voters trust or confidence yet America sponsored/financed legally elected leaders of other democratic countries because those countries have different outlook how to run their government not online with America as autocratic but these countries don’t finance coup d etat ot toppling of legally, democratically intalled leaders as American is doing.
Maybe everyone would be okay paying the mafia, providing a) they're allowed to develop and b) they get the protection which they're paying the protection racket for
@@OrwellsHousecat A Mafia Gang is an organised crime gang, what can you ever expect from an organised crime gang as such!!! Study the original godfathers and you understand just how they operate and what protection really provide! Nothing other than extortions to enrich only themselves at the expense of the communities in which they operates!!! 😰😰😰
A: the quality of democracy in the West is nothing to brag about. Voting for a preselected ruling class candidate every 4 years and never being asked to vote on any key issue again is not participation. B. Our suggestions are often huberistic, insulting,and worse hypocritical. For God's sake we are fully involved in the atrocities taking place in Israel. C. The financial class and not just the military industrial complex has completely hollowed out coffers and reduced our standards of living. Not China. D: We are not sending aid to Ukraine. All this money get cycled back to the West but not to the tax payer.
A. Are you a Wumao? B. You mention China and I presume that you are referring to the PRC, which is a totalitarian, expansionist Han ethnostate. C. The PRC has a horrible human rights reputation and has no room to preach on Israel's war.
Under Trump, our relationship with the DPRK had flourished while the relationship with Iran had suffered. In that way, I would say that the US was divisive in this way. When Joe Biden, who had promised to make the Saudi regime a pariah, I was very excited as human rights are very big for me. Of course, he turned out to be more realistic in nature. I would recommend to anyone interested in geopolitics to follow a guy by the name of Peter Zeihan.
The world has always been chaotic and hostile. Technology and communication has allowed us to see the world for what it is, rather than what we believed it to be. We may never have peace because it’s not human nature 😅
@@theglobalgambit you reply like a spoiled teen. the one time i asked you a question you dismissed it wholesale. I have no respect for grifters like you.
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We in the US have a problem with reflection because some can't separate guilt from accountabity. Therefore, we see legislation that's actively removing anything approaching self-reflection in our history classes.
What is perceived as "hypocrisy" may have legitimate justifications and different circumstances. For example, Hamas attacked Israel first, whereas Ukraine did not attack Russia first.
To hold the present population accountable for the long dead prior generations. Should you pay the debt of your deceased father and mother and brother and sister? One has to move on eventually. One has to say, it is time to focus less on debt and more on creating value of our own.
@PolicyFailureIsExpensive I'm simply talking about acknowledgement. Nothing in what I said mentioned anything about paying debts. There is something called nuance. Forcing you to pay for a wrong of your father is no better than whitewashing. It's important to acknowledge history and that doesn't have a prerequisite for guilt. Just because some may go too far with something like the idea of reparations does not override the importance of being honest with ourselves. Throwing the baby out with the bath water is overkill and prevents us from moving forward as you desire.
@@PolicyFailureIsExpensive how convenient. Never pay your debts?
Americans are not going to die to defend a island off the coast of a country bigger than US with 1 .4 B people or even win such a war
I think Average Infantryman Cappy is the wrong person to ask a political question of Western hypocrisy. Middle powers like Indonesia and India have LOT of issues with State Department, not Pentagon. Cappy, (rightly so) did not give a satisfactory answer.
Well the State Department AND the Pentagon are heavily intertwined. And I would argue the issues well go beyond the State Department especially with regards to Indonesia.
I considered Neocons to be worst cancer in US politics in last 30-40 years, and then we got Liberal Interventionism. Have you thought that between Democracy and Authocracy, worst choice is Failed State, especially if it is caused by foreign intervention, and worst at all, if you even cannot flee to any decent country?
I look at undermining US credibility is a good thing. This chips away at globalization in one more avenue. Ending globalization is the ultimate geopolitical goal. Ending the global shipment and trade in goods.
I disagree with the American audience on what's good for American is important. You cannot impose America on others. That's American are hated and other countries are boycotting like dropping American dollars and your sanctions are not working countries are going other groups like brics.
Don't fool yourself with a mirage
I am not sure how BRICS is supposed to work as long as two of the major members are at each others' throats, and another harbours secret plans against those two, and again, one of the former two also harbours similar designs against said third party. If you know what I mean, good for you. If you do not, shame on you. Be it as it may though, while the West will lose regardless of the outcome of Ukraine, India is sure to lose a great deal if Ukraine wins.
Liberalism is based on the assumption that conflict is an inherent feature of human nature. So there is nothing wrong to stir up conflicts between groups and nations and ensure your own dominance in the world. But this is a fallacy, to assume that conflict is a feature of human nature. People get into conflict situations because of the social setting they grow up and has to do with poverty, lack of education, and political manipulation of the masses. It has nothing to do with human nature or democracy. The US has been waging wars on these false assumptions of a "belligerent human nature" that needs to be tamed. Well, it seems Liberalism has run its course and the people of the world no longer believe the American narrative of "freedom and democracy" as an excuse to wage wars around the world.
To me, the meta is that post Bretton Woods, we've been guaranteeing freedom of navigation (and thus, freedom of trade) for our adversaries. China would be NOTHING without this; the country imports its food, means to produce the food it does produce, and industrial inputs, including energy. The totality of its state is built on heavily subsidizing manufacturing for export. We have been doing this for so long that people have forgotten what the world was like before. We haven't known any other way. The US has a LOT of relationships as a result of the Cold War. If you joined our club, you gained the opportunity to prosper through trade, and many, many nations did exactly that. Absolutely, the US's actions can at times seem hypocritical. Sometimes, we get things completely wrong.
We have an exaggerated startle response. The last time someone startled us (by flying some planes into some buildings), we went to war for over 20 YEARS. That incident was partially funded by citizens of a nation that depends on the US for its physical survival. During the conduct of that war, we thumped an organization in one country while funding it in another. That's that massive Venn diagram of relationships at work, plus the need of the moment, plus fallibility.
Absolutely, we can be heavy-handed. If you want to dump dollars because you're irritated with us, dump dollars. The only other viable safe-haven economy that can absorb the liquidity of nations is Europe, and our relationship with Europe isn't going to change fundamentally. Countries like ruzzia, Iran, the DPRK, China and others want us out of the way. ruzzia wants its empire back. China wants to build one. Empire building is bloody and kinetic work, just ask the Ukrainians. If you really, really want us out of the way, please consider what that will look like. The absolutely chilling thing is that we AGREE with you. As Chris said, we never got a peace dividend. Our energy needs are met potentially for centuries, certainly decades of stable pricing, so we're re-shoring manufacturing at an insane pace and forging relationships that actually benefit us. What happens to your country if you industrialized and can't get oil because the tankers keep getting stolen? What happens to your country if you didn't industrialize and a regional power has thoughts of empire? I'm afraid that we're all going to find out.
Pls recite this Peter Zeihan gibberish else where NEXT
in theory europe, EU would have power to secure trade in key points where US now has lot of bases: middle east, red sea roughly. but looking european politics, staying that united what it requires is another question. even china could over time take that role if US totally withdraws. ironically US is pretty neutral now as they have domestic oil production, so no need for urgent oil rush. every other place in world with strong economy is big net importer thus it would be domestic security issue and thus aggressive competition. CIA and other non military ways have been way more beneficial,succesful than military actions.
Your first like gave it away Peter. Give it a rest. 😂
This is unfortunately the predominant view American have of themselves. Reinforced by their politicians, media and Zeihen. They don't see through the delusion. Like America protecting sea lanes for the world with patrolling aircraft carriers? There were and are piracy all over the world, a bit less since the 20th century but Somalia should have dispel this ridiculous assumption.
Trade has flowed in Asia for thousands of years before the appearance of western powers. And when they did, it was to plunder. Western ships were the pirates, you needed protection from.
To say that America missed out on the peace dividend is another ridiculous assertion, western corporation dominated and still dominates the world's land and energy ownership. Sanctions kills children and civilians. Western corporations are still depraving local inhabitants the use of their land.
America and the G7 isn't the victim, it is the evil empire.
The USA and western nations are far more reliant on the global south for the basic raw material inputs and parts to make practically anything. Even our medical industry would come grinding to a halt without access to the chemical starters needed for medicine synthesis.
This is one of the very few "conversations " I has to stop what I was doing and focus on what is being said. I thoroughly enjoyed y'alls Brain Dumps! I'll probably circle back around and listen to y'all again as I know I missed a bunch..
I'm a 69 year young Vet and not easily impressed and you both impressed the hell outta me! Thanks! Now I gotta get back to one of my projects....thanks again, Gentlemen! Outstanding presentation!
Wow thanks. I appreciate that. I felt l was just going off all over but glad it resonated with you
Great break-down with Cappy
Why should the USA care about the Middle East at all?
Wow Chappy, I've never seen you so serious before on Task & Purpose!👍
Good to bring it out occasionally right?
We shouldn't forget the expenses from refugees and anti-terror caused by US American misadventures in the Middle East, that European allies pay. Nor the tax dollars and jobs created by billions spent on US Military technology
And don't forget: 31 allies and 600 milion more people, 2 additional Security Council seats, acces to military facilities all over the world. Not to mention en extra 31 police forces, diplomatic corps, national and international intelligence agencies. This is something that adds immeasurable weight and power to US foreign policy and deterrence.
The problem with a lot of this conversation is , that with the autocratic countries the people as a whole have no say & the leaders don't want any change that would undermine their total power & never will . Most of these autocratic countries could flourish under a more democratic system BUT they never will .... unfortunately .
How’s this even remotely relevant to the conversation
Define "flourish".
Of course they will not, because the leaders prefer the low hanging fruit even though it has proven to be dangeously tasty, yet poisonous.
Do people have a choice or do we have a say here with our duopoly the corporate dictatorship? Hmmmm
Western Academic scholars had long said in US you can change party with the duopoly, but you can't change policies, in China you cannot change party a one party monopoly, but you can change policies, Chinese government had constantly adjusted their policies to benefit their people
People seem to forget, or just don't know history, but the 1960s were multitudes more unstable than currently. Political and civil assassinations, Vietnam War, the hippie/peace movement, etc. which were several times more disruptive than anything were dealing with today. Everyone thinks their time is much more important than past, but it's not. 1960s were a lot crazier than anything going on today.
Good conversation. I think, in general, analyses of hegemonic powers, medium powers, statecraft, etc kinda tend to leave out this important fact: this is about human beings. I think powerful people sometimes have more in common with each other, across nations, than the less powerful people living in those nations, just working and trying to raise their families. That being what it is, it's always helpful to isolate the conflict in this way: calmly sit down with the other party, list everything you have in common, list everything you agree on, and then list what the differences are. The lists of commonalities are usually huge and the lists of differences are usually much smaller. That makes things that appear to transcend manageability into things that are important, but more manageable. That makes them not-existential. Nations don't fight wars over conflicts that aren't existential. People don't fight wars with each other, inside nations, over things that honestly aren't existential. Try starting right there. Good luck, we're all counting on you.😃
Imbalance of power or the perception of imbalance of power is what drives the ppl in power on one side to ignore the grievances of the other side. As a consumer, you might hv a grievance against Amazon or Walmart which are retail giants. The chance that your grievance gets settled after trying a few months to get heard is probably nil. You decide to take your case to court and hope it will get you somewhere. When such grievances happen between nations, depending on the extent of the issues at hand, these might be settled by force to get the attention and get the other side to the table to negotiate in good faith with the whole world as witness. But if one side feels like their name is hegemon and they have no intention to settle in good faith and their true intention is to weaken the other side until the existential threat is fulfilled, even a 10 yr old can tell what the hegemon is up to. And that's also when you see the full force of the propaganda machine on both sides go into full gear.
@@bobmorane4926 I respectfully disagree with the Walmart analogy: grievance against Walmart in capitalism leads to consumers telling their friends and neighbors about their experience, and that leads to people taking their business elsewhere. That leads to Walmart either shutting down stores or doing a course correction if they want to stay in business. It is a bottom-up, consumer-based check against abusing the consumer. The solution in capitalism is more about consumer choice, in other words, and less about taking cases to court - that happens, but the bigger check against abuse is the consumer writ large. Why before the American Revolution the colonists did stuff like the home spun movement, the Boston Tea Party, etc. Part of this was this part of the American colonists feeling that the British East India Tea Company was a global, government-backed Walmart with an army that could price dump, drive out competition and then raise the price of consumer goods without local businesses that could then compete. Competition is a hedge against hegemonic abuses. The US consistently talks this way to China, about being "competitors," and honestly it makes sense to us but I don't think it makes sense to them.
If you're trying to resolve conflicts with words instead of guns, it's important to, you know, use words in ways that your opponent can grock.
@@jenniferkruse7269 I think China isn't considered a competitor. It's an adversary. You understood the tea party issue and the imbalance of power and yet you're turning a blind eye to your country's hegemonic behavior or in other words , bully behavior. Your rule based order has no meaning when everday the whole world sees the hegemon breaks its own rules and pretends its acting to defend the rule based order. So what does it make Americans look like when they apply one rule for the rest of the world and make exceptions for themselves. Hypocrits. The result won't be pretty bcos westerners are most concerned abt saving their face than admitting to their guilt and the horrors they hv created. And that's what they think the Chinese are mostly concerned abt saving face when in reality it's the West which will do everything to bend the narrative and try to save face.
@@jenniferkruse7269 Grievances between nations don't really follow a capitalist model of demand and supply and following clear cut rules. The UN is always there but that never prevented the US to invade Iraq, Libya based on false pretenses made up of fabricated evidence like "Nayirah's false testimony". It's always been abt hegemonic power based on small d*ck syndrome or insecurities of that guy (China) becoming an existential threat to me in the future (i.e military and economically more powerful) . Jeff Sachs in this recent video , talking to a bunch of billionaires , all Trump supporters, couldn't explain it better and so clearly. The US doesn't care about values (human rights or free speech) or whatever it claims it fights for . All it does is look for its own interest and play Russian roulette with the planet's destiny knowing full well that playing these games with the 2 other superpowers is equivalent to tossing a coin toward a nuke war with either China or Russia. And Jeff knows better than anyone as he actually spent years doing those negotiations between Russia and US and also at the United Nation over several decades of his career. ruclips.net/video/uvFtyDy_Bt0/видео.html
@@jenniferkruse7269 I'd love to reply to you but everytime i give an adult reply , my comment is removed. Not sure if it's youtube or the channel admin. But anyway the commenting is really biased in favor of the hegemon, any other opinion is savagely suppressed.
I was tentatively hopeful that this discussion might have been grounded in reality based upon the clip at the start, but after 5 minutes of standard goreign policy blob unthought my hopes were dashed. If I wanted yet another discussion about why every bad decision weve made for 30 years was our only choice I could have just cracked open a foreign affairs article.
Cappie's assertion at the start that understanding and grappling with the history of our conflicts with coutries like Iran is a counterproductive exercise was honesly shocking to hear. I lost a lot of respect for him when he said that, I expected better.
Chris Capuletto is fast maturing, congratulations to him and Mr Kurzin!
Yes. This is a problem. My solution would be for the US to largely withdraw from global affairs.
define 'largely withdraw' - a very arbitrary concept
@@theglobalgambit To no longer station any US military (troops or weapons systems) in a continent that is not the USA. The people want isolationism, in fact need it. On top of that populations across the world constituting 80%+ want the USA to retreat bar a few proxies here and there. The question comes down to whether Americans actually want to die on a beach or in the woods somewhere for small nations that are going to collapse anyway to any of the numerous major and local powers that are forming across the world.
Technology parity - the velocity of information sharing - as well as innate productive capacities has basically rendered the tech supremacy "pax americana" over.
@@theglobalgambit I would say close all foreign Air Force and Army bases. The Naval bases are OK. They preceded the American Order of 1945.
@@theglobalgambit please note: the USA has territories in the Caribbean and the Pacific. Those are fine. We must defend our own.
Is the USA prepared to see China move into those bases along with Russia?
How’d you feel about this latest episode? Drop a comment with your thoughts.
Oh bless your heart for thinking Trump has thoughts resembling policy.
I like more to live in china than in US.
Go ahead. Let us know how it goes…oh wait you won’t be able to due to free speech restrictions
There is an Italian geopolitical analyst, the best, Dario Fabbri, he held a conference in Australia last week. He says that Americans are a depressed people and the pharmaceutical data should be Also due to the fact that it has been many years since USA is behind many things and IN recent years it no longer has the confidence to move and fight even 3 wars at a time. . You find yourself a bit disconcerted by all these "regime" states that create chaos everywhere
Kind of but I think it has more to do with Bush and his non-response to the Dotcom crash, and then the subprime economic crisis.
Great didn't knew became a regular thing. Kuddos to both. ❤👍
Philip Ittner & Jessica Berlin interview
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What about Abhijieet Lyer Mitra?
When will you invite him again?
That hindutva fascist. Hopefully never.
@@jimmyjonga8048 There's nothing fascist about him. Hindutva is anything but fascist. Abhijit is a Gay and Leftist in many of his views and takes...
Cry @@jimmyjonga8048
This reminds me of M&M's, Reese's cups or whoever it was, two great taste that taste great together. In this case it's two people with great taste together, lol. I enjoyed your conversations together.
At the 22:24 min mark, Mr. Cappy states something that is every problematic with tons of pundits, not only him, with poorly explaining this issue of sending is military aid here, he says "....people they talk about how we shouldn't be funding war in Ukraine, we shouldn't be wasting dollars over there when we have so much trouble in America...". This highlights two things based on ignorance, firstly, people literally think that we are sent bags of money here in Ukraine, which is complete and utter nonsense, it's the VALUE OF OLD PENTAGON HARDWARE THAT IS RETIRED, it's not new money! As Frederick Kagan on Bill Kristol's show on YT, put it - ""Ukraine is being sent....40 billion or whatever, worth of stuff....they are not being sent cash....". Secondly, since when does the Pantagon reallocate money to pay for schools, hospitals etc. ? Never. Why are Americans so ignorant of how the Pentagon works! Anyway, my main point is Chris did not explain this properly, Frederick Kagan, & Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges, are the only ones I have heard who explain this properly. You really need to get Frederick Kagan on the show Ptoyr, if you can awing it and chat about that.
Theses are clowns. They low key fill their stream with russian talking points. Like 80/20 so far. I've seen this many times. Over time the BS will increase.
The Host outright states he doesnt believe 8n 1991 borders.
Will check out Kagan - know him previously
@@theglobalgambit Cheers Pyotr, I only discovered you chan recently and am glad to have found it! As a relevant FYI for you, I found the exact part in the clip, I cannot paste inks as my comments get zapped for some reason, but if you search on RUclips for the name of the video at the end of this comment and go to the 48:30 min mark and watch from there for like 2 mins. Mr Kagan, makes a firm point of how this is miscommunicated in the mass media (It'll be the 4th one down in the search, make sure it's the one from 11 months ago) - Fred Kagan on Ukraine: Where Things Stand 11 months ago Conversations with Bill Kristol
so they are being given older hardware at a loan while degrading Russia for the US without cost of lives to the US? That sounds like a really good deal for the US.
However for the Ukrainian people, this cold calculation of costs means that they are just pawns in an economic/political game.
And also Jake Broe explains this well.Maybe get him on.He also has given the best explanation of the USA'S "open border " problem.If you get Jake Broe on, please ask him about both of those issues.
BTW : Can you name me one nation on planet earth, that wouldn't kill, to become America for a day ? Honest truth be told 4 a change?
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Psychopath Projection
Word of advice from a non-western citizen if you don't want your adversaries to come together, do not preach your values too much and genuinely stop interfering in other country's internal matters. Having just an honest and good business relationship with any country will prevent them from joining your adversaries.
Like it prevented ruzzia ? they had all the buisness they wanted
Agreed.
The USA and UK especially acting like world bullies crates a clique of haters
@respublikas that's because US was provoking Russia since 2000s. US official admitted as much(google it).
Other countries should follow the UN charter. I will not respect any country of culture who treats women or lgbtq people as second class citizens, yet demands respect from the rest of the world.
You can not tolerate intolerance.
@@antlerman7644 this is the debate. this discussion should be happening everywhere and not pushed aside. harsh decisions then must be made if want to follow this.
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WHAT RIGHT DO THE HEADS OF US, NATO AND EU HAVE TO DECLARE THEMSELVES GODS OF OUR WORLD
WETHER OUR WORLD GETS ANNIHILATED AND EACH OF US DIES
EACH HUMAN BEING IN OUR WORLD SHOULD RISE UP AND STOP THEIR POWER GRABBING AND THEIR DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR 😖😖😖😖😖
NATO's nowhere in Asia but I will be happy to see Ukraine win. Don't want America weakened and then convince the Pinoys that they can take Sabah simply by getting China to look the other way.
Average Infantrymen opining on geopolitics now.
Pytor is the Mahyr Tousi TV of geopolitics
Pytor is the Jackson Hinckle of geopolitics
To any Americans complaining that Canada isn't spending enough on defense, I'd just like to remind you that in the past two world wars, we had boots on the ground in Europe LONG before you pulled your thumbs out of your asses and decided to help! And we didn't have much of a budget then either! Do we need to touch your boats to get you to move? Is that what it takes?
Regime change advocates
No mater how much one loves the US, nothing lasts forever, regardless of technological change, in fact technological advancement might have expedited the speed of the cycle and globalized it in a way, the world became smaller and the rest of the world is headed for downfall in lock step to the US, in essence the world became one empire, the population decline in the West is a global issue now, it affects China and Latin America, all corners of the world is under this stress that the US globalized with its ideals, who falls first and who recovers first is the question unlike in the time of Rome, when it was in decline, others were not, it got invaded and the cycle restarts quickly because not every empire is in the same stage of decline; now the situation is different, most powers are in a close enough stage of decline and when the world order collapses, we will find ourselves in a larger world once again contrary to the smaller world of today; frontiers rather than borders will be the norm once again just like in the old times.
Really enjoying this 'crossover'
I asked CHATgpt about Ukraine Russia war i asked about why Russia should not be concerned about Ukraine joining nato and being NATO's military in ukraine but no military can enter in Colombia or Mexico at usa border, CHATgpt said because nato in defensive allianceband Russia should not be concerned.
Yugoslavia is a great example that show NATO is not a defense alliance.
26:39 our infantryman is drinking his calming juice from blue glass .
Wow.. he has been so politically correct here
The Marshall Plan developed to protect who from whom. To protect Europeans from each other. That is the truth. Nobody is treating Europe but Europe.
I can understand the imperialist Western nation joining up to support Britain in a war with great powers, but why would any countries in the majority global south support Britain in yet another imperialist and neo-colonialist wars?? Your slanted views on Western Domination is the very view that will bring you down crashing hard!!! 😢😢😢
Who’s saying Britain would launch an imperialist or neo-colonialist war by itself?
Who's saying those wars are being waged? the only one who's doing that is Russia.
Besides empire and imperialist nations are simply expansionist polities who failed to translate their territorial gains into real nation building. We do not call Russia an empire, because it has proven to be more successful than Britain in the art of expansionism.
Its evolution mates...
If lions got an unfair share...the wolves created gangs...
And well the prey grew antlers and thorns..
We are evolving off of the planet. Want to follow Elon to another planet? Sadly when we create what is already a biologically unlivable planet we take thousands of species with us. Its NOT about species competition as what is taught in population studies. This is suicide. This is anti-evolution.
how much does the USA pay rent for those bases in NATO italy turkey etc..? Or are they sponsored by italy turkey germany greece etc.
I am surprised that you would be concerned about how much US pays considering that china has its foot in ten times more territories
mostly sponsored by local country as I understand it. however many local countries dont invest in equipment and troop training like US does, not in same quantity anyways. for big HQ type bases Im not familiar how funding of those work.
@@UniversalAwareness101 so tell me what concerns you? chinese taking over euro or the americas after africa, s. China sea, taiwan or antartica? I love surprises, thanks. if euro countries allow usa bases rent free then they are paying some already towards nato security was my thinking; whats yours?
Making cuts in guest speakers makes my think the narrative is being twisted doesn't feel genuine.
Please we must respect each other special for western they're talking about Democraciy human rights USA NATO and Israel if it's true we are following for them but it's the main tolls for the interest of USA NATO and Israel open your eyes
Pyotr kurzin, You're making that guy to be confused, just leave him his own military analysis and conflicts in the world, Chris cappy is a former US military forces, he doesn't likes much about politics, US and it's vassal western countries hypocrisy and double standards. I normally comment abusive words in his Task&Purpose, he don't get angry, just a polite guy and intellectual fighter.
Who wants that?
The conversation didn't really touch on the heading of the video deeply i am not satisfied plz do a similar interview 🤗🤗🤗
man, does this guy know how to yap your ear off. all while being unable to maintain eye contact
@@OrneryHumorist and that would be too?
Americans will benefits alot if US goverment stop sticking their noise kn every countries internal affairs and stop thinking u american are better than others.
Like, I mean, sort of, like, you know, I mean, sort of, like?
I’d seek medical help you seem to be suffering from a stroke
and you dont get a sense of irony interviewing this guy huh? until a few months ago he optimized everything you complain about.
The West yuck.
I'm trying to figure out how this guy comes with China invading their own country, that's like saying someone breaking in their own home.
P*ss off bot.
Its more like one brother breaking into his brothers home and claiming it as his own just because he is bigger
@@SilentTraveller21 really the UN says it's China's property and so does history.
@@SilentTraveller21 the UN and history says it's China's.
@@SilentTraveller21 The UN says it's China's and so does history.
You guys should go back to school be careful in using the term autocrat and democratic country. You are desrecpecting democratic countries as autocrat just because their leader has very high approval ratings like Putin almost 90%, Rx-Ores Duterte in Philippines with same almost 90% approval ratings and democratic like America who got only 51% voters trust or confidence yet America sponsored/financed legally elected leaders of other democratic countries because those countries have different outlook how to run their government not online with America as autocratic but these countries don’t finance coup d etat ot toppling of legally, democratically intalled leaders as American is doing.
The Mafia doesn’t provide protection for free even if your shop or turf is called Taiwan, doesn’t it!!! The Mafia Gang must get paid!!l! 😢😢😢
So putin is charging taiwan?
Hey, what are you drinking these days? Sounds like you got the hookup. Or are you just doing mental gymnastics to feel outraged?
Maybe everyone would be okay paying the mafia, providing a) they're allowed to develop and b) they get the protection which they're paying the protection racket for
@@OrwellsHousecat what money do you think you're paying, you delusional weirdo?
@@OrwellsHousecat A Mafia Gang is an organised crime gang, what can you ever expect from an organised crime gang as such!!! Study the original godfathers and you understand just how they operate and what protection really provide! Nothing other than extortions to enrich only themselves at the expense of the communities in which they operates!!! 😰😰😰
Had no idea you were such supremacist and war mongers
A: the quality of democracy in the West is nothing to brag about. Voting for a preselected ruling class candidate every 4 years and never being asked to vote on any key issue again is not participation.
B. Our suggestions are often huberistic, insulting,and worse hypocritical. For God's sake we are fully involved in the atrocities taking place in Israel.
C. The financial class and not just the military industrial complex has completely hollowed out coffers and reduced our standards of living. Not China.
D: We are not sending aid to Ukraine. All this money get cycled back to the West but not to the tax payer.
A. Are you a Wumao?
B. You mention China and I presume that you are referring to the PRC, which is a totalitarian, expansionist Han ethnostate.
C. The PRC has a horrible human rights reputation and has no room to preach on Israel's war.
Under Trump, our relationship with the DPRK had flourished while the relationship with Iran had suffered. In that way, I would say that the US was divisive in this way.
When Joe Biden, who had promised to make the Saudi regime a pariah, I was very excited as human rights are very big for me. Of course, he turned out to be more realistic in nature. I would recommend to anyone interested in geopolitics to follow a guy by the name of Peter Zeihan.
North Korea had good friends in the form of Russia and China, reviled by China but not the business establishment. With Iran it's another matter.
The world has always been chaotic and hostile. Technology and communication has allowed us to see the world for what it is, rather than what we believed it to be. We may never have peace because it’s not human nature 😅
Cap knows basically nothing and the host is swimming in BS.
Seems like your whole life is bs.
@@theglobalgambit you reply like a spoiled teen. the one time i asked you a question you dismissed it wholesale. I have no respect for grifters like you.
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