@@christosvoskresye Unless you're just randomly going off, 6 does not include the TNG crew. First contact is an okay movie, but a terrible tng and ST movie... and thats the best of the 4
I must have watched this scene a million times and it still makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, that’s the sign of a brilliantly made film that will always remain timeless
One of the great things about this scene is what James Horner's music is doing while Spock is saving everybody aboard the Enterprise. We know that the chamber Spock enters is filled with deadly radiation but the music doesn't play the idea of "Spock is in mortal danger": rather, it plays the idea and the attitude that "Spock is the heroic MVP of the moment." The actors (Scotty and McCoy) are the ones telling us that the chamber is dangerous, but the music completely misdirects us into thinking that Spock will both save the day and live, and therefore, it's a real surprise when we find out what happens to Spock. Excellent and thoughtful composing by the late James Horner: he really did so much to help tell this Star Trek story.
Yeah. Kirk, not cocky any more. Arms folded, legs crossed, finally facing up to a no-win scenario that he's going to lose. He can't pull something out of the bag or cheat his way out of this one.
Love this film. In my opinion, it’s the most authentic look the enterprise ever had, from the background noises of internal comms to the hazard signs you see dotted around the ship........ Bloody brilliant👍👍👍👍👍👍
Indeed, I remember seeing this movie in the theatre back in 1982 when I was only 9 years old. You can imagine the tragic effect that Spock's death had on me.
Sulu said, so matter of fact: "We're not going to make it, are we." Not a question. But a statement. Like he knew, they just weren't getting out of it this time. Great scene, altogether.
Yeah, but it is silly. Does it not occur to them that he knows what he's doing? Scotty really should be attempting to help him effect repairs instead of basically yelling "No, Spock, come out of there and kill us all." Also, he suddenly shows no sign of injury. It would have been better for him to groggily wake up and assess the situation "Spock, what are you doing? That radiation will kill you." and struggle to his feet and try to help. Maybe I am expecting Scotty to be as logical as Spock, but dammit, he's an engineer not a doctor. An engineer should be able to reason - Spock is risking/sacrificing his life to try to repair the warp drive, it must be very important to get the warp drive working. Also, there is the cartoonish TV set up. In the TV show Scotty is a one man show who basically repairs FTL nuclear technology all by himself. Really? Does a nuclear sub work that way? Or does the chief engineer have several assistants who are top engineers themselves and whose skills and work are essential as well? Kirk sends a hugely important message to Scotty "I need warp speed in three minutes or we are all dead." and Scotty is unconscious and nobody else in engineering gets the message and does anything. Kirk does not even demand some kind of response just sends a message to nobody. Nobody is even working on it. Spock, OTOH, immediately knows what he needs to do to fix it. That guy just sitting on the step with a migraine at 0:58 why can't he be an engineer trying to effect repairs who tells Spock - the frim frammel is out but we can't repair it because there's too much radiation in there. Spock can then send him off to work on something while he takes on the radiation. This movie, perhaps like many others, is written from a sort of Atlas perspective. The story is only about 8 people, and they pretty much do everything, unless a guy with a red shirt is allowed to die anyway. The eight are the superstars of life, and the rest of the canaille are just anonymous extras.
Scotty knows that Spock knows exactly what he's doing. And McCoy watching, knowing Spock will be blind and irradiated to the point of sudden imminent death. The depths of fortitude to address his captain and friend, one last time, fighting neutrino and electron damage every step of sheer agony.
"I'm sorry Doctor I have no time to discuss this logically" The greatest Spock line in the film franchise, so simple demonstrating the humanity and emotion deep inside Spock. Can read a fair bit into that. The same as McCoy saying 'no human can tolerate the radiation that's in there'
I was in college when this hit the theaters and am not ashamed to say that my then boyfriend and I, along with our friends, utterly wept when we realized Spock was going to die. The cries and sobs rang throughout the theater, not just from our group but uniformly through the audience. Personally, I have always admired Spock and wanted to be with someone who was like him. Oddly enough, I did just that. While sometimes it bothers me that my husband appears unemotional and always totally logical, I value his intelligence and his *loyalty* as Spock was always *loyal* to Kirk. Yes, we're nerds and geeks in my family and we're proud of it. LOL The moment David says "you can't" when asked how to stop the Genesis wave and Spock makes that internal command decision to sacrifice himself for the good of them all.... It really WAS the logical choice but it cost the senior officers their dearest blood. I also always wanted the scene to have Khan see the Enterprise hit warp and survive before he died. Is that wrong of me? LOL I wanted him to see love overcome hate, the love of Spock for Kirk and his crew over the hate Khan had for those he deemed inferior.
I think Spock is so popular in part because we all wish we could control our human nature to a greater extent. That we could perceive more clearly and respond more reasonably. We all sense we have the capacity to maximise our abilities, but our human bodies swing this way and that and we fail to maintain our balance.
00:18 - 00:23 - That is one of the most unique angles of the Enterprise ever seen. And - since this battle was mostly a "submarines in space" type of battle, I think it's entirely appropriate that we see the Enterprise seemingly struggling towards the "surface". In fact in a way that shot reminds me of the battle in Hunt for Red October when the Dallas played decoy for the torpedo that was about to destroy Red October and did the emergency blow and surface - the Exec Officer tensely saying "C'mon Dallas.... FLY!"
Random fact, Savek (Or however it's spelt) says they have 30 seconds left, but from the time she says that to the actual explosion, it's about a minute.
kuribayashi84 Oh, that would make sense. If that were true, though, it would be less than 30 seconds to the explosion. Then again, it's possible Saavik just rounded.
Best bit is Kirk just assuming Scotty had fixed the ship miracle style like he had so many times before. Doesn't even enter his head that Spock was involved.
Actually he didn't. If you watch carefully - Khan, though quoting Melville, states the absolute truth, when he says "I spit my last breath... at thee..." He LITERALLY dies - right there. He died thinking he'd killed Kirk and the Enterprise.
That's the one thing I would change in this scene. A reaction shot of Khan as the Enterprise warps away. Just whisper a quiet, broken "No...", then BOOM.
This is a masterpiece....Capt Kirk really believes he a Captain... And the scenes are put together masterfully!!!' Bless you Scotty .....Go Sulu......---
The sequence from 2:16 to 2:38 has to be one of the most tension-filled moments in all of Star Trek, if not all of sci-fi. It's only moments. I was amazed to see it's only 22 seconds; but the music, the cast's delivery, even the way the camera moves from character to character, all of it just completely sells it... you could actually believe they might not make it. To me, that's just one of the things that make this a really brilliant film.
The beauty of Star Trek is that it is not about starships at all, it's not even about space. It simply translates our human-human interactions, our principles, our ideas, into the future. Spock was a dear friend of Kirk's, who saw what needed to be done and his duty, and was comfortable sacrificing himself for the sake of letting all he know live. It could have been written for a sea-faring vessel, or a soap opera in suburban Australia. These same challenges, thoughts and ideas are with us no matter where in the universe we are, or when.
@@michaelmappin4425 Exactly. Even in the old series, it was always about the characters, moral dilemmas, problem solving. Spock (emotionless logical) making the hard, but correct calls vs McCoy (Empathetic, caring). Even Kirk, despite his schmoozing, was always about duty and the love for ship and crew.
@fuzzblightyear145 And you could never become captain of a starship because you happen to be onboard when some stuff went down. It takes years of starfleet experience, including multiple commands, rank progression, and command screening.
Interesting. Although it does beggar the question why is it, every time we see a situation in Trek where the crystals need to be realigned, do we also see the Chief Engineer doing this by hand? You'd think a computer with automated servos could align the crystals far more efficiently than a human could eyeball.
@@dhunter1133 In most of those cases it's either due to a system malfunction or the fact that the servos in question may have literally been melted off by the absolute shitstorm of Plasma from the Matter to Antimatter reaction. That is what Warp Cores are after all. But another thing is that while it COULD be done by a machine it'd probably take a lot more time due to the fact that in most of those cases many of the core systems were still online. As i said the core is a Matter to Antimatter reactor and that plasma is shunted all over the ship, so that means it'd be powering life-support, most propulsion systems, and a lot of other facets of the ship. It's pretty much the reason why when Khan made his move earlier in the film and hit the main body of the Enterprise, it literally crippled the HELL out of the ship via the Warp Core. So that means either the power to whatever mechanicals that are in the Warp Core to align the crystals was out, or it created a blow-out to the point where they were "jammed" for all intents and purposes. Though in some cases i'm pretty sure it comes down to a point to where even a computer system can't really *detect* what is exactly the problem with a crystal when it's not working correctly. Some of this was explained somewhere by Dilithium looking pretty identical to Quartz crystals hence why it took so long for Earth to make a Warp Drive cause it was literally *right under everyone's noses* . It's a bullshit excuse, but eh. As far as i can tell a lot of the times when they do this manually it's either when the entire core is offline in order to inspect the crystals, or even replace them, or when they're in a rush and they don't have the time to let the system correct it. But again, that usually only applies to either the Original Series or a very rare few episodes in the Next Generation, and maybe one or two movies. It's not a thing that's really brought up or done often.
What puzzles me is why the dilithium chamber is in a completely different location to the linear intermix chamber (AKA the engine core) which is almost next to it 🤔🤷♂️🤦🏼♂️
I saw this with my dad in the theater in 1982 when I was five years old. Having seen Star Wars for the first time the year before, I remember shouting "Hyperspace!" when the Enterprise goes to warp in this scene.
No love for the editing? Lol that coverage of the characters on the bridge at 2:17 to 2:37 was a looping pattern that built up into a crescendo of tension
Kinda humorous that the two best set piece scenes and music scores in the entire Trek film franchise (Genesis Countdown and Stealing the Enterprise) don't involve any violence; just Kirk running away from malfunctioning Starfleet vessels.
I love how they strategize the repairs and pick the nebula to battle in, then kirks experience beats khans wits and the enterprise just kicks the crap out of the reliant lol. Khan was excellent and it was kirks best acting bar none.
I love the fact that Khan (in his own mind) has his revenge.. it must have been tempting to have him see the Enterprise speed off and escape.. but, to him he's done it.
Khan's life had been a lie from the start. He was created on a false premise, became a monster due to the lies fed to him from his earliest childhood by fascist eugenicists and tried to conquer the world based on the lie that the extermination of non-augmented humanity would somehow be a good thing. It was fitting that he would die believing a lie: That he had ultimately won.
I'm so glad they didn't include a karmic revenge scene where Khan sees the Enterprise escape, it would have been tacky no matter how they did it. Despite Khan's motivation, revenge was never the point of the film. It was about people dealing with the kobayashi maru no-win scenario (the inevitability of growing old and death) and the genesis device/planet (new and existing life flourishing and pushing forward in spite of the inevitability of death). The scene showing the forming genesis planet feels like a perfect allegory for where these two concepts collide, and creates a new sense of purpose and way of thinking for the previously depressed and 'old' Kirk... he feels young. Having Khan screaming 'nooooooo!' in the middle of all that would have been hammy and would have completely hijacked the point.
They must have debated and pondered, long and hard, whether or not to have Khan see the Enterprise escape. I wonder what their reasons were to decide against it.
When I first saw this movie, at about 2:17 when the music changes and they start panning across the bridge, I never forgot the tension and how that made me actually think they really weren't "gonna make it". Love that this scene reverberates with so many folks so many years later.
Le meilleur film de Star Trek inégalable !!! Aujourd’hui Cette scène est la plus emblématique, la plus belle et aussi la plus triste , la plus dure . Je ne sais pas combien de fois j’ai vu ce film Salut mr Nimoy / Spock , je n’oublierais jamais merci
Bonjour Madame! J'adore cette film, il es tres epique et intelligente. Mon preferrez Star Trek film. Pardon, Je parle Francais un petit peu. La Francais es dificile pour nous Anglais-parleurs.
@@nathanfitzgerald6651 bonsoir Nathan vous avez un bon français . Je ne pas bien l’anglais !!! Nous aimons regarder les mêmes films 🎥 de Star Trek Je vous remercie et vous souhaite Llap 🖖
@@garylowe2127 Kirk had lots of no win scenarios play out in his career. He had to kill his best Academy friend in the 2nd pilot. He grew up on Tarsis 4. He lost Edith...in fact he was the one that got her killed. He lost his brother and sister in law. He and Flint both lost and destroyed the android woman due to lust and ego. He lost his captain on the Farragut to the blood sucking entity. He lost Miramani. He got her killed too. This was a good plot for the Rabbit out of a Hat Captain Kirk but it requires you overlook the other tragedies in his life.
Any time when I am entering a situation with a fuck ton of anxiety, I think of Spock as he is putting on the gloves and going through the revolving door (1:09)
The way she turns with that music... Huge, majestic, believable, fucking beautiful! This design, the most cinematically (is that even a word?) realistic of them all, especially in the first three movies. ...EDIT - She's turning on reaction control thrusters!
I was 12 years old when I saw this movie in theaters. I was a casual Star Trek fan before - but this movie made me a lifelong Trekker. Not just a great Star Trek film, but a great film!
It would have been so icing on the cake to just have 3 more secs of Khans eyes getting big and him screaming NOOOOOOOOO! as he watches the Enterprise go to warp. I'd like to head canon that happening, not letting him die believing his was the victory.
What a great scene in a spectacular movie! I saw this in the movie theater at Westview cinemas in Maryland… my Uncle took me. They had ppl in uniform handing out playbook type theatrical stuff. It was super cool!
Great scene tension emotion perfect score with scotty and bones screaming for spock to get out knowing for well they are done if he doesn't succeed with the camera zooming in on each character on the bridge!
I remember seeing these movies as a kid. This scene and the scene of the Enterprise's destruction were some of the most memorable of my childhood! (I know that a person's death should mean more than a ship, but the scene with the lettering of the Enterprise melting away in Star Trek III, really hits me-it did then, and it does now!) I actually thought Spock would somehow come back anyway with his mind meld to the Doctor (oddly enough, it actually wasn't established by the creators of the show then, but I thought somehow they would do it)
Imagine in real life, no amount of protection or speed available can save you. All you can do is crawl away knowing it won't matter. It isn't quick either and you have time to really fester in those thoughts. Almost feel the impending doom myself.
One question I've always had about the scene is: why didn't Enterprise blow Reliant - and the Genesis device - to smithereens? If the Genesis device needed several minutes to build up to critical mass, then destroy it before it has a chance to build up. You might get still get an explosion, but logic dictates it would be far less in order of magnitude.
@@ipponyc - I'm not sure how. If we take the explosions of the Enterprise in STIII and the Bird of Prey in STIV as normal for a ship exploding, they were far enough away that Reliant exploding shouldn't have been a threat. I mean, the REAL answer is "because the plot demanded it," but I think it's still an interesting question.
It's fucking bullshit that this movie STILL isn't in the National Film Registry. Nick Meyer has an incredible talent for wringing stories which are both deeply meaningful and supremely entertaining from established franchises. I'm shocked he hasn't been tapped either for Bond or by Marvel at this point, and kind of must assume at least one of those has approached him but he said no because he has higher aspirations.
Its ironic isnt it? that in ALL of the travels of the Starship Enterprise throughout the far reaches of the galaxy,, the crews greatest nemesis turns out to be from humanitys own twisted creation !
There are two moments I wish could have been in this clip: the moment Spock realizes from his station the sacrifice he must make; and the moment Kirk looks to Spock's empty chair and realizes to his heartbreak what Spock may have done.
I keep trying to find a clip with the " 'round perdition's flames" quote, but no luck. That is a great little speech, quoting Ahab in Moby Dick, but updated for interstellar travel. I am sure the Antares Maelstrom is a regular garden spot. Lol
+Danbutch24 The 2009 movie had it's moments and wasn't that bad but Into Darkness really took a massive dump on the Lore. After watching Star Wars 7, I am now convinced that what they should of done is something similar, make it another timeline sure but not the same characters, more like Krik's son and a very similar story. You know the whole going back to go foward is ok but don't destroy the main characters... (I would have like Into Darkness more if it hadn't been Kirk and Khan but just like another crew connected to the old crew and like another Khan descendant, a retelling with other people, like SW 7 is very much SW 4)
+Cragnous It was only logical to capitalize on the nostalgia from the older generation and combine that with an entire new potential fan-base in the younger generation
If by that you mean, Annoy people who knew that original film and confuse people who had no idea why the name Khan was supposed to mean anything, then that result was achieved. It's just a very poor cover version. You can't force character chemistry and history that took 3 seasons to build up to enable the above scene have a proper emotional resonance, in just two hours and then having the character's cry to try and force it. That's just hack writing. Then to add insult to injury, they then brought Kirk back in about five minutes and made the entire scene pointless anyway. It single-handedly undid all the hard work the actors had done to make the characters their own interpretations by turning them into backstreet knock offs. That's why I hate it.
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It’s now 2022 and this is still the best Star Trek movie EVER!
Some people like 6 better, but this one is king
@@christosvoskresye Unless you're just randomly going off, 6 does not include the TNG crew.
First contact is an okay movie, but a terrible tng and ST movie... and thats the best of the 4
Totally agree
@@christosvoskresye First off, first contact is 8, not six.
I never said it was good or close to wrath of khan. Tf are you on about.
And Khan, this Khan, is still the best Strek Trek Villian ever. Movies and TV shows!
I must have watched this scene a million times and it still makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, that’s the sign of a brilliantly made film that will always remain timeless
exactly
Agreed. The amazing soundtrack really adds a lot to it as well.
@@TheRmm1976 it's the thumping sound track that makes it. It's the work if a genius.
@@lawrencemanning yes. James Horner- what a loss.
Me too.
I showed this to my ESL students in Korea.
Half cried, the other half yelled at the screen that it was unfair.
One of the great things about this scene is what James Horner's music is doing while Spock is saving everybody aboard the Enterprise. We know that the chamber Spock enters is filled with deadly radiation but the music doesn't play the idea of "Spock is in mortal danger": rather, it plays the idea and the attitude that "Spock is the heroic MVP of the moment." The actors (Scotty and McCoy) are the ones telling us that the chamber is dangerous, but the music completely misdirects us into thinking that Spock will both save the day and live, and therefore, it's a real surprise when we find out what happens to Spock. Excellent and thoughtful composing by the late James Horner: he really did so much to help tell this Star Trek story.
Great observation
It's my favorite soundtrack that he ever did.
The Enterprise has never looked better than in this film.
RIP LM.
This and the previous film showcased this Enterprise perfectly. TMP: The Enterprise is beautiful. TWOK: The Enterprise is Majestic.
Philip Drury what about search for Spock and the battle damage? Or do you mean sfx or paintwork?
i agree totally
Decades later and still is one of the greatest science fiction scenes that has ever been created. And there is a lot of good scenes out there.
Yeah.
Kirk, not cocky any more. Arms folded, legs crossed, finally facing up to a no-win scenario that he's going to lose. He can't pull something out of the bag or cheat his way out of this one.
Love this film. In my opinion, it’s the most authentic look the enterprise ever had, from the background noises of internal comms to the hazard signs you see dotted around the ship........ Bloody brilliant👍👍👍👍👍👍
Indeed, I remember seeing this movie in the theatre back in 1982 when I was only 9 years old. You can imagine the tragic effect that Spock's death had on me.
Took me a while to twig the little details. The no smoking signs, the "Enterprise Class Simulator" etc. Something only VI did after.
Great scene.
No speech.
Just duty and sacrifice.
Hollywood has lost the art of great film making. Woke is all the turnout today.
Perhaps you're right.
I seen this movie in theaters in 1982 , and loved it and love it to this day . Still the best Star Trek movie out of all of them
I'm so glad I never.. everyone would've seen me balling my eyes out at Spocks death & funeral.😭
That makes two of us.
This movie saved the franchise and gave it legs for years to come.
This is not only one of the finest sci-fi films ever made, IMO it's one of the finest films ever made period.
I'll drink to that sir! It was filled with the true heart & soul of Star Trek.
@@nathanfitzgerald6651 Absolutely
Sulu said, so matter of fact: "We're not going to make it, are we." Not a question. But a statement. Like he knew, they just weren't getting out of it this time. Great scene, altogether.
Bless you Scotty......GoSulu....
Everybody: *great scene*
Chechov: "4000 Kilometers" He knows.
Everyone played this scene perfectly.
One of the most epic scenes in science fiction history.
I thought about saying "Epic"
@@ChosenByGrace Double epic. Epicly epic.
The utter desperation in Scotty’s voice as he begs Spock not to do it…
Yeah, but it is silly. Does it not occur to them that he knows what he's doing? Scotty really should be attempting to help him effect repairs instead of basically yelling "No, Spock, come out of there and kill us all." Also, he suddenly shows no sign of injury. It would have been better for him to groggily wake up and assess the situation "Spock, what are you doing? That radiation will kill you." and struggle to his feet and try to help.
Maybe I am expecting Scotty to be as logical as Spock, but dammit, he's an engineer not a doctor. An engineer should be able to reason - Spock is risking/sacrificing his life to try to repair the warp drive, it must be very important to get the warp drive working.
Also, there is the cartoonish TV set up. In the TV show Scotty is a one man show who basically repairs FTL nuclear technology all by himself. Really? Does a nuclear sub work that way? Or does the chief engineer have several assistants who are top engineers themselves and whose skills and work are essential as well?
Kirk sends a hugely important message to Scotty "I need warp speed in three minutes or we are all dead." and Scotty is unconscious and nobody else in engineering gets the message and does anything. Kirk does not even demand some kind of response just sends a message to nobody. Nobody is even working on it. Spock, OTOH, immediately knows what he needs to do to fix it.
That guy just sitting on the step with a migraine at 0:58 why can't he be an engineer trying to effect repairs who tells Spock - the frim frammel is out but we can't repair it because there's too much radiation in there. Spock can then send him off to work on something while he takes on the radiation.
This movie, perhaps like many others, is written from a sort of Atlas perspective. The story is only about 8 people, and they pretty much do everything, unless a guy with a red shirt is allowed to die anyway. The eight are the superstars of life, and the rest of the canaille are just anonymous extras.
Scotty knows that Spock knows exactly what he's doing. And McCoy watching, knowing Spock will be blind and irradiated to the point of sudden imminent death. The depths of fortitude to address his captain and friend, one last time, fighting neutrino and electron damage every step of sheer agony.
One of the greatest movie musical scores of all time
The designs of the starships, the music, and the uniforms make this my favorite movie scene.
"I'm sorry Doctor I have no time to discuss this logically"
The greatest Spock line in the film franchise, so simple demonstrating the humanity and emotion deep inside Spock. Can read a fair bit into that. The same as McCoy saying 'no human can tolerate the radiation that's in there'
Best movie or episode of STAR TREK ever. Best acting by William Shatner in any part he ever played.
"We're not going to make it are we?"
That shake of the head and Kirk's anxious expression.
I was in college when this hit the theaters and am not ashamed to say that my then boyfriend and I, along with our friends, utterly wept when we realized Spock was going to die. The cries and sobs rang throughout the theater, not just from our group but uniformly through the audience. Personally, I have always admired Spock and wanted to be with someone who was like him. Oddly enough, I did just that. While sometimes it bothers me that my husband appears unemotional and always totally logical, I value his intelligence and his *loyalty* as Spock was always *loyal* to Kirk. Yes, we're nerds and geeks in my family and we're proud of it. LOL
The moment David says "you can't" when asked how to stop the Genesis wave and Spock makes that internal command decision to sacrifice himself for the good of them all.... It really WAS the logical choice but it cost the senior officers their dearest blood.
I also always wanted the scene to have Khan see the Enterprise hit warp and survive before he died. Is that wrong of me? LOL I wanted him to see love overcome hate, the love of Spock for Kirk and his crew over the hate Khan had for those he deemed inferior.
Someone made a custom edit to this scene where it shows Khaan watching the Enterprise warp away on his view screen. It was brilliantly done.
I think Spock is so popular in part because we all wish we could control our human nature to a greater extent. That we could perceive more clearly and respond more reasonably. We all sense we have the capacity to maximise our abilities, but our human bodies swing this way and that and we fail to maintain our balance.
If Khan didn’t live long enough to see the Enterprise escape, I like to think he got to see that just after arriving in Hell
00:18 - 00:23 - That is one of the most unique angles of the Enterprise ever seen. And - since this battle was mostly a "submarines in space" type of battle, I think it's entirely appropriate that we see the Enterprise seemingly struggling towards the "surface". In fact in a way that shot reminds me of the battle in Hunt for Red October when the Dallas played decoy for the torpedo that was about to destroy Red October and did the emergency blow and surface - the Exec Officer tensely saying "C'mon Dallas.... FLY!"
It is based on a much earlier submarine movie, "Run Silent, Run Deep" (1958). www.imdb.com/title/tt0052151/ Very much worth seeing if you can find it.
I've always maintained that Red October is a Star Trek movie.
Nice comparison!
00:01 - 00:12 I love this, forever.
C’mon Big D- FLY!!!!!
The tension on the bridge from 2:16 - 2:41 is powerful.
Random fact, Savek (Or however it's spelt) says they have 30 seconds left, but from the time she says that to the actual explosion, it's about a minute.
EpicPigmasks
I always believed that Khans' last Monologue happens at the same time as the Bridge Scene.
kuribayashi84 Oh, that would make sense. If that were true, though, it would be less than 30 seconds to the explosion. Then again, it's possible Saavik just rounded.
That timeframe is how I feel when I'm writing an essay and right up against the deadline.
Glen Arnold Right Glen! :)
Best bit is Kirk just assuming Scotty had fixed the ship miracle style like he had so many times before.
Doesn't even enter his head that Spock was involved.
Spock learned the stealth hi-bye from his ancestor on his mothers side - Bruce Wayne. ^_^
I always wondered if the last thing Khan saw was the Enterprise going to warp.
Actually he didn't. If you watch carefully - Khan, though quoting Melville, states the absolute truth, when he says "I spit my last breath... at thee..."
He LITERALLY dies - right there. He died thinking he'd killed Kirk and the Enterprise.
Khan's eyes widen and he collapses, dead.
That's the one thing I would change in this scene. A reaction shot of Khan as the Enterprise warps away. Just whisper a quiet, broken "No...", then BOOM.
@Thomas McCarthy No it isn't
I don't think so. He had already spit his last breath.
Love Enterprise flying away at warp just in time.
Kirstie Alley was gorgeous.
This is a masterpiece....Capt Kirk really believes he a Captain... And the scenes are put together masterfully!!!' Bless you Scotty .....Go Sulu......---
The sequence from 2:16 to 2:38 has to be one of the most tension-filled moments in all of Star Trek, if not all of sci-fi.
It's only moments. I was amazed to see it's only 22 seconds; but the music, the cast's delivery, even the way the camera moves from character to character, all of it just completely sells it... you could actually believe they might not make it. To me, that's just one of the things that make this a really brilliant film.
I've always loved the musical score on this entire movie - but here is where its best IMO.
I've always said that a movie's score can elevate a good movie to a great one. This scene, and the movie as a whole, has such a great score.
Love the sound of the warp drive
Star Trek II will never be topped in the franchise.
One of the BEST movies in the entire franchise. 🖖
The beauty of Star Trek is that it is not about starships at all, it's not even about space. It simply translates our human-human interactions, our principles, our ideas, into the future. Spock was a dear friend of Kirk's, who saw what needed to be done and his duty, and was comfortable sacrificing himself for the sake of letting all he know live. It could have been written for a sea-faring vessel, or a soap opera in suburban Australia. These same challenges, thoughts and ideas are with us no matter where in the universe we are, or when.
Something none of the new ST movie writers understand at all.
@@michaelmappin4425 Exactly. Even in the old series, it was always about the characters, moral dilemmas, problem solving. Spock (emotionless logical) making the hard, but correct calls vs McCoy (Empathetic, caring). Even Kirk, despite his schmoozing, was always about duty and the love for ship and crew.
@hub5342 It's that kind of thing that made Master & Commander a great film too.
@fuzzblightyear145 And you could never become captain of a starship because you happen to be onboard when some stuff went down. It takes years of starfleet experience, including multiple commands, rank progression, and command screening.
The room Spock goes into to save the ship is the Dilithium Chamber. Essentially he realigns the crystals allowing the mains to come back online.
Interesting. Although it does beggar the question why is it, every time we see a situation in Trek where the crystals need to be realigned, do we also see the Chief Engineer doing this by hand? You'd think a computer with automated servos could align the crystals far more efficiently than a human could eyeball.
@@dhunter1133 There is a chance that the equipment was disabled.
@@dhunter1133 In most of those cases it's either due to a system malfunction or the fact that the servos in question may have literally been melted off by the absolute shitstorm of Plasma from the Matter to Antimatter reaction. That is what Warp Cores are after all. But another thing is that while it COULD be done by a machine it'd probably take a lot more time due to the fact that in most of those cases many of the core systems were still online. As i said the core is a Matter to Antimatter reactor and that plasma is shunted all over the ship, so that means it'd be powering life-support, most propulsion systems, and a lot of other facets of the ship. It's pretty much the reason why when Khan made his move earlier in the film and hit the main body of the Enterprise, it literally crippled the HELL out of the ship via the Warp Core. So that means either the power to whatever mechanicals that are in the Warp Core to align the crystals was out, or it created a blow-out to the point where they were "jammed" for all intents and purposes.
Though in some cases i'm pretty sure it comes down to a point to where even a computer system can't really *detect* what is exactly the problem with a crystal when it's not working correctly. Some of this was explained somewhere by Dilithium looking pretty identical to Quartz crystals hence why it took so long for Earth to make a Warp Drive cause it was literally *right under everyone's noses* . It's a bullshit excuse, but eh. As far as i can tell a lot of the times when they do this manually it's either when the entire core is offline in order to inspect the crystals, or even replace them, or when they're in a rush and they don't have the time to let the system correct it. But again, that usually only applies to either the Original Series or a very rare few episodes in the Next Generation, and maybe one or two movies. It's not a thing that's really brought up or done often.
What puzzles me is why the dilithium chamber is in a completely different location to the linear intermix chamber (AKA the engine core) which is almost next to it 🤔🤷♂️🤦🏼♂️
The novelization has a line from Scotty where he tells Kirk the repair robot was disabled by the radiation when it was sent in to the chamber.
My all time favorite Star Trek movie !! Will never fade !
Khan I love his line with his last breathes
I saw this with my dad in the theater in 1982 when I was five years old. Having seen Star Wars for the first time the year before, I remember shouting "Hyperspace!" when the Enterprise goes to warp in this scene.
This scene had everything. Drama, action, pathos and great acting. Well done mr Meyer.
Music, writing, cinematography, acting, direction, special (yet practical) effects, art direction, casting, costumes - complete heaven, this movie.
No love for the editing? Lol that coverage of the characters on the bridge at 2:17 to 2:37 was a looping pattern that built up into a crescendo of tension
There's never been a better warp speed moment than 3:18 Been copied many times in many other sci-fi movies; even in other Star Trek movies.
One of the greatest sequels in movie history.
Kinda humorous that the two best set piece scenes and music scores in the entire Trek film franchise (Genesis Countdown and Stealing the Enterprise) don't involve any violence; just Kirk running away from malfunctioning Starfleet vessels.
They actually kick off with the same cue! It's like it's the official fanfare for "the Enterprise is slowly backing up, and it is awesome."
"Bless you, Scotty. GO SULU!"
I love how they strategize the repairs and pick the nebula to battle in, then kirks experience beats khans wits and the enterprise just kicks the crap out of the reliant lol. Khan was excellent and it was kirks best acting bar none.
I love the fact that Khan (in his own mind) has his revenge.. it must have been tempting to have him see the Enterprise speed off and escape.. but, to him he's done it.
Khan's life had been a lie from the start. He was created on a false premise, became a monster due to the lies fed to him from his earliest childhood by fascist eugenicists and tried to conquer the world based on the lie that the extermination of non-augmented humanity would somehow be a good thing.
It was fitting that he would die believing a lie: That he had ultimately won.
I'm so glad they didn't include a karmic revenge scene where Khan sees the Enterprise escape, it would have been tacky no matter how they did it.
Despite Khan's motivation, revenge was never the point of the film.
It was about people dealing with the kobayashi maru no-win scenario (the inevitability of growing old and death) and the genesis device/planet (new and existing life flourishing and pushing forward in spite of the inevitability of death).
The scene showing the forming genesis planet feels like a perfect allegory for where these two concepts collide, and creates a new sense of purpose and way of thinking for the previously depressed and 'old' Kirk... he feels young.
Having Khan screaming 'nooooooo!' in the middle of all that would have been hammy and would have completely hijacked the point.
He doesn’t die smiling, though, which I like. He passed out or died while citing Moby Dick, but whichever way, it took the grin off his face.
They must have debated and pondered, long and hard, whether or not to have Khan see the Enterprise escape. I wonder what their reasons were to decide against it.
@@Goodiesfanful I think a genuine respect for the character and the story. I'm going to have to watch it again now.
When I first saw this movie, at about 2:17 when the music changes and they start panning across the bridge, I never forgot the tension and how that made me actually think they really weren't "gonna make it". Love that this scene reverberates with so many folks so many years later.
Le meilleur film de Star Trek inégalable !!! Aujourd’hui
Cette scène est la plus emblématique, la plus belle et aussi la plus triste , la plus dure .
Je ne sais pas combien de fois j’ai vu ce film
Salut mr Nimoy / Spock , je n’oublierais jamais merci
Bonjour Madame! J'adore cette film, il es tres epique et intelligente. Mon preferrez Star Trek film. Pardon, Je parle Francais un petit peu. La Francais es dificile pour nous Anglais-parleurs.
@@nathanfitzgerald6651 bonsoir Nathan vous avez un bon français . Je ne pas bien l’anglais !!! Nous aimons regarder les mêmes films 🎥 de Star Trek
Je vous remercie et vous souhaite Llap 🖖
The special effects have aged very well. Looks as good now as it did in 1982.
One of the only scenes that makes me cry.
Spock, was the only one with any sense. Everyone dies...or just him.
One of the best sequences ever- brought to life by an incredible score
I believe this is the closest to being truly frightened I've ever seen Kirk be.
That salt vampire attack on Kirk! That ranks near the top.
Not only that but he realizes That he is facing the Kobe ashi maroo for the 1st time And it actually makes him worry
@@garylowe2127 Kirk had lots of no win scenarios play out in his career. He had to kill his best Academy friend in the 2nd pilot.
He grew up on Tarsis 4.
He lost Edith...in fact he was the one that got her killed.
He lost his brother and sister in law.
He and Flint both lost and destroyed the android woman due to lust and ego.
He lost his captain on the Farragut to the blood sucking entity.
He lost Miramani. He got her killed too.
This was a good plot for the Rabbit out of a Hat Captain Kirk but it requires you overlook the other tragedies in his life.
His body language, in the sitting arms folded stance says it all
@@bigddannyflynn-filmmaker5694 arms folded complete with wristwatch. Guess he forgot to take it off when filming 😅
enterprise looks so good
Brilliant scene from a brilliant movie. Seen this part maybe 100 times and it still hits me.
I like how the room with the deadly radiation is protected by a revolving door
Best 4 minutes in all of science fiction.
I love this movie!!! The music as the enterprise is reversing away gives me goosebumps
"The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the one." I love this quote.
Means more today than ever
Any time when I am entering a situation with a fuck ton of anxiety, I think of Spock as he is putting on the gloves and going through the revolving door (1:09)
Seeing the the enterprise back up and turning is amazing.
The way Scotty says "No!" at 1:43 cracks me up everytime.
The way she turns with that music... Huge, majestic, believable, fucking beautiful! This design, the most cinematically (is that even a word?) realistic of them all, especially in the first three movies. ...EDIT - She's turning on reaction control thrusters!
I was 12 years old when I saw this movie in theaters. I was a casual Star Trek fan before - but this movie made me a lifelong Trekker. Not just a great Star Trek film, but a great film!
I wonder if somebody shouted "Spock! What the hell are you doing?!" when the film was in theaters?
People were crying uncontrollably, including the date I took. Then when we saw his photon tube on Genesis, we knew he was coming back.
My friend was crying then was angry they killed spock
Did hear some "Oh no(s)!"
The score for this movie is great. Super memorable.
Seen the movie
on the big screen
way back when I was kid
still love this scene!!!...
It would have been so icing on the cake to just have 3 more secs of Khans eyes getting big and him screaming NOOOOOOOOO! as he watches the Enterprise go to warp. I'd like to head canon that happening, not letting him die believing his was the victory.
From Hell's heart I stab at thee. For hate sake.... OOOOOO F*** ME!!!!!!!
Oh god that's a terrible idea...
0:35 I always imagined Bones telling Spock "Are you outta your f*ckin mind!" Hahaha
R.I.P Leonard nimoy aka Spock xxx :(
What about bones he,s dead too!!!!!!
What a great scene in a spectacular movie! I saw this in the movie theater at Westview cinemas in Maryland… my Uncle took me. They had ppl in uniform handing out playbook type theatrical stuff. It was super cool!
Wheaton Plaza! That brings back a lot of memories!
Great story telling the tension and the count down but the music sets the tension great
One of the best sci Fi moments ever.
Every thing about this scene - people, lines, music - is perfect. It couldn't be improved upon.
2024 still the best my parents loved Mr James Horner they both were music lovers scores still gives me goosebumps
I must have drawn the Enterprise in school during lessons about a thousand times after I saw this film. It’s just so good.
Movie-making at its best....
This is THE primary scene with which I use as a perfect example of a Lawful Good in my homebrew game...
Spock as a paladin? Sounds right.
The music is the knot which sells this entire scene.
Great scene tension emotion perfect score with scotty and bones screaming for spock to get out knowing for well they are done if he doesn't succeed with the camera zooming in on each character on the bridge!
This is clearly the best sci fi movie ever, empire strikes back is a close second and event horizon. the acting is superb.
I remember seeing these movies as a kid. This scene and the scene of the Enterprise's destruction were some of the most memorable of my childhood! (I know that a person's death should mean more than a ship, but the scene with the lettering of the Enterprise melting away in Star Trek III, really hits me-it did then, and it does now!) I actually thought Spock would somehow come back anyway with his mind meld to the Doctor (oddly enough, it actually wasn't established by the creators of the show then, but I thought somehow they would do it)
The Empire Strikes Back of the Star Trek Saga
Imagine in real life, no amount of protection or speed available can save you. All you can do is crawl away knowing it won't matter. It isn't quick either and you have time to really fester in those thoughts. Almost feel the impending doom myself.
One question I've always had about the scene is: why didn't Enterprise blow Reliant - and the Genesis device - to smithereens? If the Genesis device needed several minutes to build up to critical mass, then destroy it before it has a chance to build up. You might get still get an explosion, but logic dictates it would be far less in order of magnitude.
@@dhunter1133 The Enterprise could have been destroyed from the blast and shockwave after destroying the Reliant.
@@ipponyc - I'm not sure how. If we take the explosions of the Enterprise in STIII and the Bird of Prey in STIV as normal for a ship exploding, they were far enough away that Reliant exploding shouldn't have been a threat. I mean, the REAL answer is "because the plot demanded it," but I think it's still an interesting question.
Always loved the Camerawork between 2:16 and 2:37
This is definitely one of the best scenes n the Classic Trek movies
It's fucking bullshit that this movie STILL isn't in the National Film Registry. Nick Meyer has an incredible talent for wringing stories which are both deeply meaningful and supremely entertaining from established franchises. I'm shocked he hasn't been tapped either for Bond or by Marvel at this point, and kind of must assume at least one of those has approached him but he said no because he has higher aspirations.
Scotty crying out to Spock gets me everytime.
Ricardo Montalban was a great actor.
Its ironic isnt it? that in ALL of the travels of the Starship Enterprise throughout the far reaches of the galaxy,, the crews greatest nemesis turns out to be from humanitys own twisted creation !
this scene is absolutely heartbreaking
Anyone else remember when movies were this good?
"sorry doctor i have no time".
Ensign: sir the mains are back online. Kirk: yes Scotty.....Go Sulu
He actually says 'Bless you scotty...'
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This is the BEST SCENE in ALL of the ST movies...period
Khan’s dying words were uttered by Captain Ahab in Moby Dick
Right before Moby Dick won the fight :p
There are two moments I wish could have been in this clip: the moment Spock realizes from his station the sacrifice he must make; and the moment Kirk looks to Spock's empty chair and realizes to his heartbreak what Spock may have done.
Anyone else notice that Regula One is the same model used as the Orbital Complex in Star Trek: The Motion Picture, just flipped upside down?
That's been common knowledge for years.
@@thatcanadian6698 Probably most Star Trek fans, but maybe not most everyone else.
I keep trying to find a clip with the " 'round perdition's flames" quote, but no luck. That is a great little speech, quoting Ahab in Moby Dick, but updated for interstellar travel. I am sure the Antares Maelstrom is a regular garden spot. Lol
Can't watch this scene now without thinking of the weak, completely unearned, cover version of it in Into Darkness, thanks you jerks.
+Grant Menmuir I try to pretend that the awful awful awful alternate universe films never ever happened.
+Danbutch24 The 2009 movie had it's moments and wasn't that bad but Into Darkness really took a massive dump on the Lore. After watching Star Wars 7, I am now convinced that what they should of done is something similar, make it another timeline sure but not the same characters, more like Krik's son and a very similar story. You know the whole going back to go foward is ok but don't destroy the main characters... (I would have like Into Darkness more if it hadn't been Kirk and Khan but just like another crew connected to the old crew and like another Khan descendant, a retelling with other people, like SW 7 is very much SW 4)
+Cragnous It was only logical to capitalize on the nostalgia from the older generation and combine that with an entire new potential fan-base in the younger generation
If by that you mean, Annoy people who knew that original film and confuse people who had no idea why the name Khan was supposed to mean anything, then that result was achieved.
It's just a very poor cover version. You can't force character chemistry and history that took 3 seasons to build up to enable the above scene have a proper emotional resonance, in just two hours and then having the character's cry to try and force it. That's just hack writing. Then to add insult to injury, they then brought Kirk back in about five minutes and made the entire scene pointless anyway. It single-handedly undid all the hard work the actors had done to make the characters their own interpretations by turning them into backstreet knock offs. That's why I hate it.
Just keep telling yourself that it's an alternate universe. An inept, poorly acted, money hungry universe, but nonetheless an alternate one.
the mains are back on line
Love the noise of the Enterprise at warp.