Star Trek II Enterprise Leaves Spacedock

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  • @kathleenhensley5951
    @kathleenhensley5951 Год назад +24

    Never gets old. Saw this in the theater when i was a LOT younger. It's been here on You tube for 13 yrs... still, I'll watch it. Leaving dry dock. It was such a treat to see our beloved Enterprise as she should be, could be, the way I always imagined her... It was like watching a queen who always had to wear work clothes and costume jewelry, her entire life, suddenly walk through the door wearing silk, diamonds and a handsome crown. Science fiction at its best.

  • @derekwarr8567
    @derekwarr8567 Год назад +20

    "Would you like a tranquilizer?'
    That very short scene was so perfect and funny.

    • @ahsenkhan5386
      @ahsenkhan5386 Месяц назад

      but shatner acting kinda ruin it

    • @VAREBESTILER
      @VAREBESTILER Месяц назад

      The face of Kirk is just funny 😊

  • @dharmaseed
    @dharmaseed 11 лет назад +680

    Over thirty years later, James Horner's amazing score still gets me.

    • @GoGreen1977
      @GoGreen1977 4 года назад +13

      It still gives me a thrill after all of these decades.

    • @kellyrayburn4093
      @kellyrayburn4093 4 года назад +6

      Who is James Homer? And in what did he get his _amazing_ score?

    • @bb22602
      @bb22602 4 года назад +1

      @@kellyrayburn4093 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Horner

    • @intercommerce
      @intercommerce 4 года назад +12

      It's funny, since ST2 I've seen several movies where the music sounded familiar, and I looked it up and it was James Horner. He has a distinctive Style

    • @davidharrison7014
      @davidharrison7014 4 года назад +11

      James Horner also did a great job with "Apollo 13", "Titanic", and "Avatar"!

  • @FynneRoke
    @FynneRoke Год назад +127

    "Mr. Sulu, you may... Indulge yourself."
    That line always puts the biggest grin on my face.

    • @TC-dw6wg
      @TC-dw6wg Год назад

      I believe he went a grabbed Kirks crotch after the order was given.

    • @cteal2018
      @cteal2018 Год назад +12

      Ooh Mmyyyyyyyy

    • @lonewolf9390
      @lonewolf9390 Год назад +5

      "Not in front of everyone, Mr. Sulu!......"

    • @ReelingInTheYears69
      @ReelingInTheYears69 10 месяцев назад +5

      Oh no. Here comes the Mr. SULU jokes...😂

    • @sidewindersid4180
      @sidewindersid4180 Месяц назад

      Hellllooooo

  • @AquaAdventure-o5v
    @AquaAdventure-o5v 11 месяцев назад +6

    A really excellent scene that breathes life into familiar visuals, especially the overwhelming excitement of Captain Kirk and the deadpan offer of a tranquilizer by Dr. McKoy.

  • @donkeytime1704
    @donkeytime1704 6 лет назад +269

    One of the particular things that I love about the bridge scene is how real they made everything feel and the professionalism that's given here. Listening to all the background voices and mannerisms that's being given before leaving space dock. Very well executed and very believable. I can't think of any other movie or episode in the entire franchise that's topped this performance or could for that matter. This crew has really set the bar here.

    • @GoGreen1977
      @GoGreen1977 4 года назад +14

      Most of them were cadets working in front of an admiral and a legend in his own right!

    • @Exparcelman
      @Exparcelman 4 года назад +9

      ...and that James Horner score just makes the scene.

    • @rindjint3205
      @rindjint3205 3 года назад +2

      mannerisms

    • @WardyLion
      @WardyLion 3 года назад +17

      Another small detail I noticed was the trainee working the helm with Sulu was very animated; his head turning this way and that as he worked, showing his inexperience by not knowing / being sure where everything was. Sulu, on the other hand, was much calmer and barely glances down as he instinctively knows where everything is.

    • @develynseether4426
      @develynseether4426 3 года назад +5

      I grew up with TNG and later but have to admit you're spot on and it's beautiful, Enterprise-D bridge seems like a lounge/living room at times, as did Voyager. I think DS9 did it quite well in Ops but still not as flawless as here to give the feel of really being there.

  • @voss0749
    @voss0749 7 лет назад +372

    Whats amazing listen to the background voices, they are going through a pre-flight inspection while Kirk and spock are talking. THAT is attention to detail that has been lacking in other star trek movies. That attention to detail and naval realism gave ST II a sense of realism that many SCI-FI films sorely lack.

    • @Nsan
      @Nsan 6 лет назад +13

      That background chatter is really missed in Discovery.

    • @Trek001
      @Trek001 6 лет назад +22

      The pre-launch background dialogue overheard on the bridge as Kirk and McCoy arrive is almost identical to the checklist overheard in main engineering before the Enterprise launches in Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

    • @photonicus
      @photonicus 6 лет назад +23

      Background chatter seemed to disappear by the time of TNG. Too bad..it gave a sense of how many departments/sections were on these ships.

    • @Trek001
      @Trek001 6 лет назад +6

      They do have it in one or two of the Enterprise D docking sequences - and in Ten-Forward

    • @photonicus
      @photonicus 6 лет назад +3

      Didn't know that.Have to check it out.On TOS though,they probably had background chatter even in the bathroom stalls.

  • @colanitower
    @colanitower 2 года назад +115

    Lt. Saavik portrayed so well by Kirstie Alley, leading the graceful ship out of spacedock gracefully.
    R.I.P. Kirstie

    • @mrgrinch837
      @mrgrinch837 8 месяцев назад

      She waaas a hottie!

    • @h14hc124
      @h14hc124 6 месяцев назад +1

      I guess she hadn't read the starfleet regulations about the use of thrusters only while in spacedock

    • @andynieuwenhuis7833
      @andynieuwenhuis7833 6 месяцев назад

      She would've been in other Star Trek movies if She hadn't been Greedy. Thinking She was Just as important as Regular TOS from Earlier movies/ main Enterprise crew.

    • @spuwho
      @spuwho 4 месяца назад

      @@andynieuwenhuis7833 She thanked her agent big time for getting her the Saavik role. Same agent told her to turn down the next offer...$100k less and 30% more lines. When she finally appeared at a convention, she hoped no one held a grudge against her for listening to her agent. When Leonard Nimoy took over the next one, he said "she was extremely well paid for the first film...but her agent wasn't able to see the long term value of being a Trek castmember" You have to remember that the current cast of Trek fought, scratched and starved their way into getting whatever role they could manage. Ms Alley on the other hand moved from Topeka, appeared in 4 game shows and got one low budget movie role (with Marina Sirtis) in 7 months prior to being on ST2. It's was a matter of perspective.

    • @ahsenkhan5386
      @ahsenkhan5386 Месяц назад +2

      can't believe she is gone

  • @TheCaddypilot1
    @TheCaddypilot1 6 лет назад +469

    Inside and out, this is still the best looking ship in all of Star Trek.

    • @leomartin5965
      @leomartin5965 4 года назад +11

      Yeah caddy..and the most realistic. But paramount was some cheap bastards to use S.T. ONE FOOTAGE FOR PART TWO.

    • @leomartin5965
      @leomartin5965 4 года назад +14

      I like how the interior. ( and i know it was 80's tech) but.i liked the darkness of the bridge and saucer section interior. Kind of like some submarine type sh×t.

    • @bundesautobahn7
      @bundesautobahn7 4 года назад +18

      I love the refit Enterprise.

    • @leomartin5965
      @leomartin5965 4 года назад +10

      @@bundesautobahn7 it is the best looking out of ALL the federation crafts....especially JJ ABRAMS SHIPS. THE INSIDES DONT CO INSIDE WITH THE OUTSIDE. ESPECIALLY. THE SCENES ON INTO DARKNESS...WHEN THE DIFFRENT LEVELS LOOKED LIKE A SHOPPING MALL. AND I THE SHAPE WAS OVAL..INSTEAD OF ROUND.

    • @tugwilsond8907
      @tugwilsond8907 4 года назад +1

      Amen 🙏

  • @bigdogdaddymedia
    @bigdogdaddymedia Год назад +18

    Such an amazing moment as the Enterprise's running lights are coming on, and her engines come to life. Hard to believe it was over 40 years ago I was watching this moment in a theater in awe of the massive ship moving out of dock. Still gives me chills. Wish they would show old movies like this in theaters.

    • @zfoxfire
      @zfoxfire 11 месяцев назад +1

      Independent theatres usually show classics. I saw blade runner that way and that movie is older than i am. I saw the movie a million times but in the a theatre was a new experience for me

  • @markmarderosian4025
    @markmarderosian4025 4 года назад +108

    Such beautiful tranquil moments missing today. Spock's glances as Kirk and then Savik's glance to Kirk as well, WITHOUT SHOWING a cut-away to Kirk's face. Nowadays, the director would cut to Kirk's face which is a condescending way to make sure the audience knows who they're staring at. This way here gives it more impact: They're aware of his presence and power as the highest-ranking officer on deck and a legend, and they're dancing around him with reactions to their own character arc. (Spock is an old friend and having some fun at Kirk's expense/ Savik is nervous and doesn't want to screw up in front of the principal). By not doing a cut-away to Kirk, we're actually more aware of him being there and it adds to the character and tension.
    It's subtle and adds much... and I'm seeing less and less of it sadly.

    • @robertwilson214
      @robertwilson214 Год назад +8

      Well said.That sense of naval chain of command is awesome.

    • @TeKnoVKNG23
      @TeKnoVKNG23 Год назад +7

      That's always been my favorite part of this. Spock's little troll and Savik just like...don't bring me into this, lol.

  • @darker91
    @darker91 13 лет назад +22

    I will never ever forget the first time I saw this movie and this part. I was in Junior High(Middle) school in 1982. This sequence went through my head almost every hour of every day. I remember shaking in my seat while watching this movie. It still stands as the most exciting movie I had ever seen in my childhood. I'm a fan for life. Even at the age of 43. :)

  • @nelsonchereta816
    @nelsonchereta816 Год назад +25

    You know the music works when just leaving spacedock feels exhilarating.

  • @randomlyentertaining8287
    @randomlyentertaining8287 2 года назад +138

    McCoy's expression when Spock has Savik take the Enterprise out is priceless, as is his line to Kirk "Would you like a tranquilizer?"

    • @caigner
      @caigner Год назад +16

      I am missing this kind of subtle humour in todays Star Trek movies.

    • @kevinhoward9593
      @kevinhoward9593 Год назад +9

      1:57 their faces are like "God help us all".

    • @stevealikonis9467
      @stevealikonis9467 Год назад +5

      womenz drivers amirite?!?!

    • @RJSRdg
      @RJSRdg Год назад +3

      @@stevealikonis9467 I think just that she'd never piloted a ship out of space dock before.

    • @mikeabberton
      @mikeabberton Год назад +5

      I get that it is supposed to be a funny moment, but it always bugged me a little that she isn't really piloting the Enterprise, she is commanding it. I think if she suddenly said "Warp Speed" in Spacedock that Sulu is not going to just say "rodger dokie" and fly the Enterprise into a wall or something.

  • @b.santos8804
    @b.santos8804 4 года назад +29

    Star Trek II still my all time favorite Star Trek movie. I remember waiting in a line that wrapped around the theater twice to watch it as a kid. This scene with the awesome score, with the crew making all the quiet preparations like a true professional StarFleet crew - simply awesome. They need to bring back subtle details like that in modern sci-fi.

  • @MelaniaSideWigga
    @MelaniaSideWigga Год назад +4

    I'm showing this on the next KickOff meeting for one of my Projects comprised of junior staff & Interns.

  • @johnclamshellsp1969
    @johnclamshellsp1969 2 года назад +24

    R.I.P. Kristi Alley, you will be missed.

    • @lancer525
      @lancer525 7 месяцев назад

      If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon...

  • @werdna1969
    @werdna1969 2 года назад +58

    This scene still gives me joy, almost 40 years later.

    • @chichedare
      @chichedare Год назад +4

      40 years? Omg!

    • @jrosalia
      @jrosalia Год назад +2

      I agree and Thanks. Now I feel old

  • @shaun.carter
    @shaun.carter 3 года назад +525

    Proper Star Trek movies are when they spent 10 minutes or so just showing the Enterprise slowly moving out of dock whilst music is playing. Modern Trek movies would have an entire battle filled with hundreds of aliens shooting at each other crammed into that same amount of time. Sometimes slower is better, and less is more.

    • @johntracy72
      @johntracy72 3 года назад +37

      That's because modern Star Trek is trying to out star wars Star Wars.

    • @youwayo
      @youwayo 2 года назад +18

      Ironically I enjoy the new Star Trek movies over the new Star Wars movies :P

    • @andyo5220
      @andyo5220 2 года назад +20

      A time to breathe and enjoy the majesty of the old girl.

    • @ytzpilot
      @ytzpilot 2 года назад +18

      We had better imaginations in the late 1900s compared to my kids today, they have no attention span for these sort of things being raised on different media

    • @tarron3237
      @tarron3237 2 года назад +7

      I 100% agree

  • @Maizerus
    @Maizerus 8 лет назад +72

    RIP James Horner. You were what added the majestic feel to this movie. Still can't believe you're gone. Sigh.

  • @gpat64
    @gpat64 2 года назад +91

    A proper Star Trek movie, unlike the reboots. RIP Kirstie Alley as Lt. Saavik.

  • @almostfm
    @almostfm 2 года назад +37

    I love Scotty's smile when Kirk does the "dust check". He knows that Kirk doesn't want to do the inspection and that he isn't going to find anything (especially dust), but Kirk had to make like it's a serious business. If it had been any other admiral, Scotty wouldn't have smiled, because he wouldn't know the person as well as he knows Kirk.

    • @sfk1066
      @sfk1066 Год назад +6

      Amen to that...I love that part as well. :)

  • @jonledbetter4649
    @jonledbetter4649 7 лет назад +360

    Ah yes, NCC 1701, no bloody A, B, C or D

    • @mikegallant811
      @mikegallant811 6 лет назад +17

      Jon Ledbetter or E for that matter!

    • @mikegallant811
      @mikegallant811 6 лет назад +10

      Or Jonny Archer's NX-01!

    • @highjim7778
      @highjim7778 6 лет назад +8

      or Captain Shons F!

    • @LordTalax
      @LordTalax 6 лет назад +9

      Soon to be blown up

    • @azurerainbow4637
      @azurerainbow4637 6 лет назад +4

      Did you like seeing the Enterprise NCC-1701 being refitted?

  • @tuxedotservo
    @tuxedotservo Год назад +2

    1:55 that look on Kirk's face as Saavik is headed towards the captain chair.
    "But...she's never... my baby!"

  • @WillCamx
    @WillCamx Год назад +15

    Nice to see a starship at impulse power moving like a capital ship instead of a fighter jet

  • @Brian6587
    @Brian6587 2 года назад +4

    Love the preflight checks in the background. So awesome and adds realism!

  • @jonharper4478
    @jonharper4478 9 лет назад +247

    I can see it in Kirk's face as he silently chants to himself: Don't break the ship....don't break the ship...don't break the ship. She's my baby!

    • @No1sonuk
      @No1sonuk 8 лет назад +20

      Most stupid reaction ever - Sulu's the one driving - he's not going to crash it if she gives the wrong commands.

    • @jonharper4478
      @jonharper4478 8 лет назад +23

      No1sonuk Enterprise is still Kirks baby. He has all the faith in the world when it comes to Sulu. Not much anyone else in 'his' chair, though. Aside from Spock.

    • @Fedaykin24
      @Fedaykin24 7 лет назад +11

      No1sonuk You are totally right of course but thematically it is a nice touch

    • @epiendless1128
      @epiendless1128 7 лет назад +13

      Given how Kirk micromanages Sulu in TOS, maybe he thinks Sulu _will_ crash the ship if she gives the wrong commands.
      (If you want an example of said micromanaging, see 'Arena' where despite being under fire planet-side, Kirk insists on personally running the simultaneous space battle by communicator, giving Sulu such insightful commands as 'fire phasers'.)

    • @uncommonamerican
      @uncommonamerican 7 лет назад +4

      Jon Harper i can see it in mr scotts face too dont break me ship captain she's my baby

  • @Potrimpo
    @Potrimpo 9 лет назад +24

    My dad always loved how Kirk said "later" at 0:42. A good way to have fun with the ship he loves.

  • @johnbockelie3899
    @johnbockelie3899 Год назад +4

    This scene shows the togetherness of the bridge crew and the ship as well as she leads them out for the next big adventure into space.
    I first seen this movie back in 1982 . To this day, The wrath of Khan is still the best ST movie.

  • @phoenix20401
    @phoenix20401 9 лет назад +353

    this scene is proof that spock has a sense of humor, albeit a very subtle one.

    • @DelcoRanz93
      @DelcoRanz93 8 лет назад +25

      Sulu even mentioned it to Tuvok in the Voyager Episode "Flashback"

    • @danielhaire6677
      @danielhaire6677 7 лет назад +29

      A sense of humor as well as a desire to challenge and develop his protege.

    • @WardyLion
      @WardyLion 7 лет назад +29

      I like to think he does it as a confidence-booster for Saavik, too. We see her performance in the simulator and that would rattle anyone.

    • @blindandwatching
      @blindandwatching 6 лет назад +21

      Vulcans have intense and very powerful emotions. They use logic as the basis of mental disipline to not act on their emotions / feelings.

    • @robertjohnston8541
      @robertjohnston8541 5 лет назад +22

      Actually in this scene Spock was doing his job as a teacher,of course at Kirk's expense.

  • @JediNg135
    @JediNg135 10 лет назад +223

    The TOS have a wonderful charm about them. They also have some of the best themes played to simply the USS Enterprise leaving spacedock, giving the sense that the Enterprise leaving spacedock is a ceremonious event which desires your awe. I feel like the music is responsible 75% of this 'effect' Also, lol when McCoy asks if Kirk would like tranquilizer.

    • @steveconn
      @steveconn 7 лет назад +2

      He should have given him a copy of the first ST film that came out. Cure for insomnia, no doubt!

    • @ricardioscarbonara102
      @ricardioscarbonara102 6 лет назад +1

      You read my mind exactly on both points, bravo

    • @terrimichaels2554
      @terrimichaels2554 6 лет назад +6

      Tos was and always will be my favorite what a journey it has been

    • @RealityIsTheNow
      @RealityIsTheNow 6 лет назад +17

      When will Hollywood figure out that they don't need a bunch of random loud explosions and CGI visual overload every 30 seconds to make something epic?

    • @taroman7100
      @taroman7100 5 лет назад +5

      James Horner gone too soon RIP

  • @aaronjg682
    @aaronjg682 5 лет назад +15

    You could call this scene "Spock plays a cruel practical joke on Kirk" and it still works. Still holds up as a movie 37 years later.

    • @aaronjg682
      @aaronjg682 5 лет назад +1

      @trha2222 Presumably it's more involved than that... we don't see much once the ship starts moving.

  • @bodieofci5418
    @bodieofci5418 4 года назад +15

    Definitely the best of all the Star Trek movies. It had it all.

  • @brch2
    @brch2 3 года назад +99

    Spock's like "finally, I get to scare the hell out of Jim for once, like he always scares the hell out of the rest of the crew". His decision definitely had an emotional basis to it, even if he could give a logical reason for making it.

    • @drewski5730
      @drewski5730 Год назад +7

      As a captain who has pulled such stunts before, throwing a greenhorn the reins in a training situation is great experience. She’s being overseen by a superior officer. In addition he can put her in a perceived pressure situation in front of the admiral without actually having any real consequences for her screwing things up ->good command experience, and a good Captain should want his or her staff to be able to function well under pressure situation in their absence. He lets Sulu plot the course himself too which kind of flys under the radar, not that Sulu is under pressure or a greenhorn, but it highlights how un impactful the training flight is and how the command isn’t there to watch a certain course being plotted, command is there to watch how the operation is performed and how the staff react.

    • @brch2
      @brch2 Год назад +9

      @@drewski5730 I know he had a logical reason for letting her have the conn as they left dock. Enterprise at this point is a training ship. She was in command training. Logical to train her on the training ship.
      That's not entirely why Spock did it though. His eyebrow raise wasn't just realizing "hey, I should let the trainee do this so she learns". The glance towards Kirk and Bones before he gave her the order to take them out gave his true... "feelings"... away. He let her do it at least partly to mess with Jim. He even gave the slightest, and I do mean barely noticeable tiniest muscle twitch of a smirk while glancing at Kirk.

    • @DragoonMS
      @DragoonMS 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@brch2 EXACTLY. Seems like Spock was doin' everything he could and then some to *NOT* go full emotional and cheese like the Joker when he told Saavik to "take her out".

  • @azurerainbow4637
    @azurerainbow4637 7 лет назад +20

    In the extended version of Star Trek II,Admiral Kirk is having a chat with 1 of the engineer trainees,who was being very bold. That trainee was Scotty's nephew.

  • @ColSandersLives
    @ColSandersLives 9 лет назад +78

    This is the harbinger of doom... it is a final look at the grandeur of the NCC-1701 - the last time we will see her whole - her voyage nearing its end. After this she is a battle scarred "wreck" - her majesty marred by battle with Reliant - and her inevitable demise soon to follow. I do love the theft in Star Trek III - it too is a great scene - even with the ridiculous way in which Excelsior is disabled and the campy "backfire" noises. The ship was always an additional character on the show - no credits - just badassdom.

    • @DelcoRanz93
      @DelcoRanz93 9 лет назад +1

      ColSandersLives Her credit was always shown during the scenes outside the ship so no credit in either the opening or closing credits is needed.

    • @drmayeda1930
      @drmayeda1930 6 лет назад +4

      The backfire noises was a bit much but Scotty being the engineer he was pulling out just the right chips so the excelsior couldn't get warp speed is believable. He didn't like some of the changes on the excelsior.

    • @REMcCullick
      @REMcCullick 4 года назад +7

      I'm pretty sure the "backfire" noises were programmed into the ship by Scotty...just to add insult to injury.

    • @chuckhood9659
      @chuckhood9659 3 года назад +2

      I've always felt the same. ENTERPRISE herself was the 8th of the main ToS characters.

    • @chrischeshire6528
      @chrischeshire6528 3 года назад +2

      As Gene Roddenberry said..."The star of Star Trek is the Enterprise". The crew could be replaced but not the ship.

  • @Ketchup_And_Rice
    @Ketchup_And_Rice Год назад +3

    I grew up with the first constitution refit and the A so always love seeing this
    and RIP Kirstie Alley you will be missed

  • @miguelrivera3383
    @miguelrivera3383 Год назад +3

    I miss the days of studio scale models… what a beauty that ship is… the detail is amazing ..

  • @robgyanisu312
    @robgyanisu312 4 года назад +66

    Captain Spock: "Mr. Sulu, you may. . .indulge yourself."
    Sulu: "Aye, sir." _smiles, thinking,_ "Setting course for Risa, maximum warp!"

    • @intercommerce
      @intercommerce 4 года назад +6

      Not sure if I would tell George to 'indulge himself'!

    • @axorex
      @axorex 4 года назад

      XD

    • @MidnightDStroyer
      @MidnightDStroyer 3 года назад +11

      I wonder how many people haven't appreciated just how rare of an opportunity Sulu was given. How often does a Helmsman, on *any* ship, have such a chance when the vast majority of the time all they can do is take the ship where they are *ordered* to take it? Being given a free hand on the reigns of the horse (so to speak) is not "normal' or "common" by any stretch.

    • @DP-ot6zf
      @DP-ot6zf 3 года назад +4

      @@MidnightDStroyer I don't think such a thing exists at all. Even the captains of our navies go where the generals back at HQ tell them to go. So, you're definitely right.

    • @TairnKA
      @TairnKA 3 года назад +2

      I just realised, shouldn't the navigator (on Sulus right) set the course, not Sulu himself?

  • @ColonelMarcellus
    @ColonelMarcellus 9 лет назад +81

    Saavik (Kirstie Ally) ... arguably the prettiest Vulcan in Federation history. Also consider T'pol (Jolene Blalock).

    • @virginiaconnor8350
      @virginiaconnor8350 5 лет назад +1

      I don't think Cpt. Esteban called Saavik Mr..I don't recall Archer calling T'Pol or Hoshi Mr. either. When did Kirk call Uhura Mr.? .

    • @davidw5993
      @davidw5993 5 лет назад +5

      let's not forget T'Pring 🙂

    • @stickassholio3163
      @stickassholio3163 4 года назад +1

      I agree regarding T’pol since the first episode ☺️

    • @voss0749
      @voss0749 4 года назад +2

      @Dickum N Lickum the V: Emperor Of RUclips. Romulans are the same species as Vulcans they are only culturally different by about 2000 years.

    • @davidharrison7014
      @davidharrison7014 4 года назад +5

      Don't forget Kim Cattrall in "Star Trek VI".

  • @Koldeman
    @Koldeman 9 лет назад +138

    JAMES HORNER RIP - This scene would have been a total TMP recycle if not for Horner's AMAZING score. Well, and the awesome uniforms too. I love the red wraparound-tunics in these movies.

    • @trekkie1981
      @trekkie1981 7 лет назад +1

      Koldeman I disagree, you are forgetting the first time usage of 3D rendering ever for a movie production which was used during the Genesis scenes.

    • @blip1
      @blip1 6 лет назад +7

      They did have cool uniforms in this one.

    • @sandclann
      @sandclann 5 лет назад +1

      You ARE SO RIGHT!

    • @richm1380
      @richm1380 5 лет назад +5

      I feel like the more standardized uniforms added a layer of military realism that I really liked

    • @terpdx
      @terpdx 4 года назад +3

      Tough for me to choose my favorite between these uniforms and the collared TNG uniforms from the later seasons.

  • @pattheman777
    @pattheman777 8 лет назад +37

    The score for this scene is one of my favorites in all of Trek, it just gets me every time! :D

    • @taroman7100
      @taroman7100 5 лет назад +2

      The Wrath of Khan score is the most awesome!

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT 3 года назад +1

      One of THE best movie scores ever made, even decades later, and very much my favorite Star Trek movie even since I was a kid

  • @erikcarlson2658
    @erikcarlson2658 Год назад +1

    "Would you like a tranquilizer?" 🤣🤣🤣
    If there's one thing that keeps me looking at these classic clips, it's the hopeful vision of the future that Star Trek provides. I need that reassurance quite often these days.

  • @jackoshadow
    @jackoshadow 13 лет назад +9

    The attention to detail in this sequence is amazing. The dock working waving as the ship pulls out....the background chatter of the pre-launch checklist. The new ST movies could learn a little from this....

  • @darthmix
    @darthmix 7 лет назад +9

    The score is so goddamn good. I like Star Trek best when it plays up the nautical theme, the naval uniforms and the sailing music.

  • @jb7591
    @jb7591 4 года назад +5

    I never tire of watching this, the ship, the music and how the acting reflects, friendship, knowledge and passing to a younger generation.

  • @Shanethefilmmaker
    @Shanethefilmmaker 4 года назад +44

    I did like how Spock had faith in Saavik enough to have her command flight. Makes his anger at Valeris much more heart breaking.

    • @VegetaLF7
      @VegetaLF7 4 года назад +13

      Especially considering Valeris was originally intended to be Saavik. That betrayal would have punched even harder then.

    • @chrispeplinski7306
      @chrispeplinski7306 2 года назад +3

      Saavik betrayal would have been heartbreaking

    • @BB-mv9wl
      @BB-mv9wl 2 года назад +2

      @@chrispeplinski7306 What happened to Saavik? I can't remember.

    • @vor78
      @vor78 2 года назад +5

      @@BB-mv9wl She stayed behind on Vulcan at the start of Star Trek IV.

  • @Mike19737
    @Mike19737 11 лет назад +9

    I LOVE when Spocks eyebrow goes up he is going to do something. LOL The look of HORROR on Kirks face is priceless! Star Trek 2 will always be the best of the Trek movies and a top five greatest sci fi movies of all time.

  • @Elthenar
    @Elthenar 6 лет назад +35

    It's easy to forget these days just how hot Kirstie Alley was back in the day. Plus, if they had listened to her character, this would have been a short movie and Khan would have had a bad time lol.

    • @dannyflynn5681
      @dannyflynn5681 3 года назад +1

      It's 50/50 - a film about Intelligence vs Wisdom, Saavik was right in her knowledge of regulations about raising shields when approaching the Reliant, but then later in the film its Kirk's experience as a commander that bests Khan
      Khan and Saavik are in the same boat when Spock says "He's intelligent, but not experienced" - to me that's the whole point of the film anyway

  • @Sardaukar240888
    @Sardaukar240888 Год назад +3

    Personally I just love how melodic Kirstie Alley's voice is. Her responses and orders are almost like a voice turned into music.

  • @27Bluebottle
    @27Bluebottle 6 лет назад +2

    2:09; "Would you like a tranquiliser?" So much information on the concerns and feelings of 2 men for the immediate future wrapped up in one short sentence.

  • @christopherparsons902
    @christopherparsons902 8 лет назад +38

    Such an inspirational franchise. Much thanks to those who worked on Star Trek and to the fans that kept TOS from being cancelled.

    • @DothFrmBBL
      @DothFrmBBL 3 месяца назад

      Spihk Heartbust!? Analyze & Discuss Positive Results & Effects for Bozeman Hotmail Recipient as a result for Bozeman Hotmail Recipient's eye doctor forcing Bozeman Hotmail Recipient's eyeballs directly into Bozeman Hotmail Recipient's head!

  • @ACLTony
    @ACLTony 9 лет назад +58

    For those that were wondering why Kirk was suddenly shaky when Saavik piloted the Enterprise out of the dock. This was a connecting parallel to the hazards of ocean going naval and merchant ships leaving a port or dry dock. In many ports around the world there are often tight clearances, sharp turns to make, and other vessels nearby so the chances of collisions are greater in a port or dock than out in open sea. Some of you have likely seen the RUclips videos of ships, within a port or harbor, accidentally ramming docks, tugboats, other ships, or causing other small vessels to capsize as they attempt to leave or come in to dock. Here, even though all Saavik is doing is having Sulu move forward, notice that this space dock has little room on either side of the Enterprise.

    • @ColSandersLives
      @ColSandersLives 9 лет назад +11

      +ACLTony Many ports actually send out personnel (harbor pilots) that take command of the ship just for this reason. They are paid very well. Great comment.

    • @ACLTony
      @ACLTony 8 лет назад +9

      +ColSandersLives Thanks! I noticed some of the comments that indicated that some didn't understand why Kirk suddenly got a bit nervous. Big Ship + Narrow Dock + Rookie Pilot = STRESS!, lol.

    • @MrAlumni72
      @MrAlumni72 6 лет назад +4

      Yet all that was required was "Aft thrusters, one quarter impulse power". Not a whole lot to get worried over.

    • @drmayeda1930
      @drmayeda1930 6 лет назад +6

      @@MrAlumni72
      You should read the novel Enterprise. And see just what happened the first time Sulu took the Enterprise out of space dock

    • @TeKnoVKNG23
      @TeKnoVKNG23 6 лет назад +6

      I always thought it was Spock getting in some good natured trolling on his best friend.

  • @lkvideos7181
    @lkvideos7181 9 лет назад +53

    Spock: "Now Mr.Saavik, get us in again ....."
    Kirk: "Don't push it Captain"

    • @maxwellmarsden7273
      @maxwellmarsden7273 4 года назад +4

      ...nope, that's the first time we see Kirk FAINT!!! LMAO

  • @luthermcgee3767
    @luthermcgee3767 Год назад +1

    I will always- the way kirk took his napkin and sampled how clean the console was, and scotty's smile of satisfaction was always- humorous. People don't generally think along these lines.

  • @blppt
    @blppt 12 лет назад +22

    Best part of this scene is Kirk nearly having a panic attack when Saavik takes the chair. "want a tranquilizer?" asks McCoy, followed by some brilliant facial ticks by Shatner, ROFL.

    • @MidnightDStroyer
      @MidnightDStroyer 3 года назад +5

      The good Doctor certainly knows his "patient," doesn't he? Such a high level of adrenaline & endorphins that must be surging through Kirk's bloodstream right then...

    • @chrispeplinski7306
      @chrispeplinski7306 2 года назад +4

      Love how nervous Kirk looks

  • @ross8884
    @ross8884 7 лет назад +25

    the music is AMAZING (goosebumps)

  • @trekaddict
    @trekaddict 2 года назад +65

    And to the day I die, I will say and believe that Spock had Saavik command the exit for no other reason than to mess with Kirk.

    • @MM22966
      @MM22966 Год назад

      Such action would not be logical.
      But there are limits to all things.

    • @pauldavis9387
      @pauldavis9387 Год назад +5

      Oh you can bet on that. The way he looked at Kirk before turning over command. But I really don’t understand what the big deal was/ she just said do it. It was Sulu who did all the work.

    • @lightharbormusic
      @lightharbormusic Год назад +4

      The command of one quarter impulse power was key here. It was apparently something Kirk always did to irritate Starfleet because regulations required thrusters only. Spock probably worked it out with Saavik earlier just to give him a taste of his own medicine. Kirk would then later return the favor in Star Trek 6.

    • @pauldavis9387
      @pauldavis9387 Год назад +4

      @@lightharbormusic I’m glad someone else caught that. Kirk loved to mess with the controllers. But the fact that Savak called for impulse is interesting. She is so by the book. I wonder if it wasn’t an oversights by the writers?

    • @MM22966
      @MM22966 Год назад

      @@pauldavis9387 It's a question of legal responsibility to the ship. If the Helmsman (Sulu in this case) dinged the ship, he'd be in trouble, but whoever was at the Conn (Saavik) would be legally liable as the commanding officer. It true in real life navies and presumably true for Starfleet. If she had smashed another ship or the inside of spacedock basically drag-racing the equivalent of a nuclear-powered carrier, she could be cashiered, or posted to a subspace relay platform at the ass-end of nowhere for the rest of her very long life.
      Kirk got away with a "cowboy" command style because he always made it work somehow in the end, or he had people like Pike to cover for him early on.

  • @lerneinformatik1194
    @lerneinformatik1194 3 года назад +19

    It's unbelievable. The movie is 40 yeears old, but the enterprise still locks good. It does not look old or something. What a great ship.

  • @terrywest111
    @terrywest111 2 года назад +3

    At times in this sequence you can see that Kirk is actually quite pleased with the Cadets. The way Saavik handled the big chair, actually brought a bit of smile to the Admiral's face. Though, I know that part of him was wishing he was sitting in the chair.

  • @dokiwonka
    @dokiwonka 11 лет назад +7

    NCC - The art director Matt Jefferies thought of it. It's based on 20th century aircraft registration code. (N used to mean registered to the USA, C stands for civil aircraft. Also because NC was for US crafts and CC CC was for Soviet Crafts, they combined the two.) Also apparently lot of star trek novels and documents say that NCC stands for "Naval Construction Contract".
    1701 - 17 stands for the 17th cruiser design and 01 is the serial number.

  • @timcassaday3045
    @timcassaday3045 2 года назад +3

    we will never know what kind of Captain Saavik would have made. R.I.P. to a great and wonderful lady.

  • @Tiberon674
    @Tiberon674 Год назад +4

    After all these years, it still gives me goosebumps.

  • @chriscunningham6362
    @chriscunningham6362 8 лет назад +25

    Spoc was such a class act! All these movies give me the fuzzies.

  • @Friendlyneighborhoodguy
    @Friendlyneighborhoodguy 3 года назад +2

    39 years later I watched this film and loved it

  • @johntracy72
    @johntracy72 3 года назад +22

    Enterprise is not just a mere starship. She is a caring mother.

    • @graceskerp
      @graceskerp Год назад +3

      "We call our ships 'she' because they carry life", a tough old CPO of my acquaintance.

  • @themadwomanskitchen9732
    @themadwomanskitchen9732 Год назад +1

    2:37 Man, I *LOVE* this score! It's so majestic, perfectly befitting seeing the Enterprise leaving spacedock!

  • @stephenwatson2806
    @stephenwatson2806 4 года назад +4

    This film is in my top 3 sci films of all time. The ending is the only time in a film i saw a tear in my dads eyes. Spocks funeral is a masterpiece

    • @richardw64
      @richardw64 2 года назад +2

      Tell your dad he wasn't alone there.. I think the entire cinema shed a tear, thinking Spock was finished.

  • @xlink316
    @xlink316 10 лет назад +65

    This scene gives me chills. Outstanding.

    • @kd84afc
      @kd84afc 10 лет назад

      The leaving sequence is the same one used the motion picture!

    • @hatchbx
      @hatchbx 10 лет назад

      ***** Did you just say this music is *better* than Jerry Goldsmith's?!?!

    • @kd84afc
      @kd84afc 10 лет назад

      hatchbx He did, Jerry Goldsmith's score in the motion picture was amazing, I find some of James Horners work great but he does recycle is work far to often

    • @fezmancomments
      @fezmancomments 4 года назад

      Marvellous though this new Enterprise departure from Space Dock is, the real departure of old Ark Royal from Plymouth gets my vote for first place. ruclips.net/video/GAgV57KW1_0/видео.html

  • @stormsigma
    @stormsigma 7 лет назад +4

    This whole movie was fantastic, but this scene alone is the one that still gives me goosebumps. Every time. That majestic swell, as we see the Enterprise, the pride of Starfleet, leaving Spacedock, ready to explore whatever adventure awaits next. I love the Enterprise D, I love the E, those are excellent designs...but the Constitutional Retrofit Enterprise A is MY Enterprise. This scene was entirely about her, and I loved it immensely. Always will, and I mean, not to mention that Star Trek II was an excellent movie all around. I think the new reboots are still struggling to find the footing that original Trek found in its second movie.

    • @virginiaconnor8350
      @virginiaconnor8350 5 лет назад +1

      Seems silly today maybe, but my dad was Army and my brother Navy. I used to go out to Fort McPherson-where Leonard Nimoy served his Army service and where his daughter Julie, my sister and younger brother were also born. My sister used to live in Decatur where Deforest Kelley once lived. At North Ga.College, cadets at the back of the campus theatre yelled "airborne" when the Enterprise took off in the movies and those, including non-cadets, yelled "all the way!" For a memorial service to about 6-7 students there omelet week, a bagpipes played "Amazing Grace" on the drill field for them as Scotty played for Spock and a Scottish Rite Oriental Bagpiper also played it for my dad 2 years later. That's why I cried at the end of "ST:4"- for my dad (28 yrs.) and Capt. Spock too.

  • @SBatts-vn1bd
    @SBatts-vn1bd 3 года назад +8

    I really enjoyed the brief moments we see Spock in the chair it really seems like he's more confident & logically giving orders to Sulu without having to give up the seat to Kirk. This is his ship now.

  • @Dutch-_-Schafer_
    @Dutch-_-Schafer_ Год назад +2

    Every time I watch this film it still strikes just how beautiful the Enterprise A is such a beautiful looking ship

  • @CeltycSparrow
    @CeltycSparrow 4 года назад +9

    I love how she still looks at Kirk....almost as if asking HIS permission, before she takes the Captain's Chair to pilot the ship out of space dock.

  • @ignaciomartinez8751
    @ignaciomartinez8751 Год назад +1

    I'm never tired of seeing this scene. I remember seeing the movie in 80s when I was in high school.

  • @EnforcerX71
    @EnforcerX71 4 года назад +12

    This whole scene is essentially Spock & Bones teasing Kirk.

  • @Splinter48708
    @Splinter48708 5 лет назад +1

    And, Saavik with the first "Ooooooh, SHIT!" moment when Spock tells her to take her out.

  • @Laeadern
    @Laeadern 6 лет назад +9

    I never get tired of seeing the Enterprise.

  • @bobburns1431
    @bobburns1431 7 лет назад +2

    The majesty and glory of these departures from space dock are spectacular!,you can feel the power and pride of the crew!.

  • @TheTvGuru3
    @TheTvGuru3 10 лет назад +71

    "Would you like the tranquilliser?"xD

    • @JediNg135
      @JediNg135 10 лет назад +10

      Admiral, what about the rest of the inspection?
      silently, "LATER"
      bahah

    • @ACLTony
      @ACLTony 9 лет назад +4

      +JediNg135 Yep, Kirk wanted to skip the inspection and see his former ship get into action, even if it's just a trip around the solar system. Spock was a cool captain. The writers should have had shown him in command of his own ship at the end of Star Trek VI or at the beginning of Star Trek Generations. What could have been.

    • @acmenipponair
      @acmenipponair 8 лет назад +5

      Spock said in Movie II, that although he is a good educator and commander, he don't feel like he is able to be a good captain, as he couldn't attach emotionally with his crew. That's one of the reasons, why the Vulcan commanded ships are run 100% by Vulcans, they understand this, but humans wouldn't.
      And well, he already was working on his new career as a diplomat in and after movie 5, because he has decided to retire from Star Fleet together with the rest of the crew, although he would be only 67 years old then (just to compare: T'Pol of Star Trek was OLDER when she became second in Command in Enterprise, 66 is not a huge age for a species that can reach 250 years of age.) He didn't plan to command after the happenings of the trilogy.
      (What's interesting of Star Trek is, that ST is in a way the history of Spock (or better said told by Spock), he is the only character who has been from the first pilot until 2389 in duty (as he was after Nemesis the embassador on Romulus again) and even in the newest movie. The only series where no Spock was living was Enterprise :D

    • @TheStarTrekApologist
      @TheStarTrekApologist 5 лет назад

      Acme Spock was the captain of the Enterprise he was just training a new crew for his ship.

    • @kaidenshepard8446
      @kaidenshepard8446 4 года назад

      McCoy actually asks if he wants Saavik tranquilized if you listen closely lol bust still th elook son both McCoy and Kirks face when Spock lets Saavik take the ship out is a corker, ha ha, leeting these young cadets be in charge of the ship he has commanded for so many years

  • @gerrymichaud3851
    @gerrymichaud3851 9 месяцев назад +1

    A little trivia. At 31 seconds the cadet behind Kirk's right shoulder is Mr. Scott's nephew. The scene when he is telling this to Kirk was cut. But the scene in sickbay when Mr. Scott said that the trainee stayed at his post. That is why Mr. Scott was so emotional.

  • @TrueArgons
    @TrueArgons 6 лет назад +6

    Seeing this ship always makes me almost cry in awe.

  • @picklerick6759
    @picklerick6759 Год назад +1

    Seriously when the Enterprise is shown like this am i the only one that tets goosebumps!!! God i miss this!!! The look on kirks eyes as hes like uhh...someone ELSE is driving MY ship lol😅

  • @789tundra
    @789tundra 3 года назад +3

    I always wonder who is little man waving to the enterprise at 02:43!!!

  • @RA-VEN8
    @RA-VEN8 11 месяцев назад +2

    0:55 David Ruprecht is the voice you hear.

  • @PCCphoenix
    @PCCphoenix 7 лет назад +9

    0:38
    McCoy: Admiral, what about the rest of the inspection?
    Kirk (mouthing): Later.
    (LOL)

  • @datacipher
    @datacipher 2 года назад +1

    George immediately gleefully plots course for Uranus! Ba doom boom!
    Cheap jokes aside, it’s a magnificent sequence.

  • @Fedaykin24
    @Fedaykin24 Год назад +4

    The takeaway from this scene is Spock has a sense of humour...he knows it is stressing out Kirk and McCoy Savik taking out the Enterprise (Sulu is at the helm so it is an odd concern) but he can hide behind his Vulcan logic for the shits n giggles! Love this scene!

  • @CrniWuk
    @CrniWuk Год назад +2

    When Scotty says, he didn't leave his post, always gets me.

  • @TimCassaday-jb8ul
    @TimCassaday-jb8ul Год назад +4

    It's a shame we never got to see what type of Captain Savvik would have been.

  • @dgontar
    @dgontar 4 года назад +1

    The name of the music in the background is called "Enterprise Clears Moorings." It's on the soundtrack. The audio is at a higher pitch here so the key is higher than the original. The tempo seems faster as well.

  • @TheOmegaRiddler
    @TheOmegaRiddler 4 года назад +4

    "Mr Sulu, you may indulge yourself"
    I don't think the bridge is the place for that sort of thing Spock.

  • @dwood37
    @dwood37 12 лет назад +1

    LOVED this!!! "Would you like a tranquilizer." LOL!! Yes, the visuals still hold up perfectly! Love the tiles on the hull!!! So realistic!!!

  • @organizedchaos9749
    @organizedchaos9749 6 лет назад +64

    Star Trek then: They had to out think a genetically superior human hell bent on revenge. Star Trek Now: They beat the aliens by playing "Sabotage" by the Beastie Boys

    • @Retro-Future-Land
      @Retro-Future-Land 5 лет назад +13

      I'm so glad I quit watching the trash movies by JJ Abrahams.

    • @thecianinator
      @thecianinator 4 года назад +5

      Star Trek Beyond was phenomenal and having Captain Kirk save the day with the Beastie Boys was a super fun spin on the classic Star Trek trope of having to find the right signal frequency to talk to the aliens.

    • @Grayqboufan
      @Grayqboufan 4 года назад +2

      They still had to come up with that totally off the wall idea. The JJ movies are cheap entertainment for sure, but they’re still good movies. They’re just in a different category.

    • @tumsfestival8027
      @tumsfestival8027 3 года назад

      @@Grayqboufan into darkness is poop. Literally nothing makes any sense. What’s white khans plan? It involves a lot of assumptions

  • @MT-ek9te
    @MT-ek9te 2 года назад +1

    Rest in Peace Christie Alley....
    You are sorely missed 😞

  • @SacrificialLamb71
    @SacrificialLamb71 8 лет назад +10

    Bones: "Would you like a tranquilizer?" lol

  • @ZephWraen
    @ZephWraen 2 года назад +2

    Bones just sensing Kirk's blood pressure rising "Would you like a tranquilizer?" Ahh, this movie still holds up fantastically.

  • @appollosharris4350
    @appollosharris4350 4 года назад +6

    I love this version of the Enterprise more that the other versions.

  • @EdiaStanfordBruce
    @EdiaStanfordBruce 3 года назад +1

    Catch the horror and the anxiety attack on Admiral's and Doctor's faces as Spock says "There's a first time for everything"? My my my! Talk about first times!

  • @7Lukibi99Tore7
    @7Lukibi99Tore7 10 лет назад +4

    @ donkiwonka. I forget where I read it, but the Enterprise's designation letters ''NCC'' are suppose to stand for ''Naval Constitution Class''.

    • @FLAME4564
      @FLAME4564 10 лет назад +1

      As a trekie and son of a trekkie fan myself I'le agree with everything you say in this comment.
      Though NCC for constitution was only said to be known as Naval Constitution Class. It wasent until the dawn of the TNG era that the meaning of NCC changed

    • @fanboy2015
      @fanboy2015 10 лет назад

      I've also seen "Naval Construction Contract", from the book Ships of the Starfleet. But in reality, it was taken from registration numbers boats used to have back in the day, like "NC445328". Something like that.

    • @FLAME4564
      @FLAME4564 10 лет назад +1

      and still is being used surprisingly today. But for how long.

    • @johnfowler1627
      @johnfowler1627 8 лет назад +1

      Roddenberry talked about this in a couple of interviews a long times ago. I don't know where you'd find the transcript now. Roddenberry, Doohan, and Jeffries were all aircraft pilots. They naturally drew upon that experience when they needed to, and you'll occasionally see that aviation knowledge show up, particularly in the original series. While trying to make things seem as authentic as possible (for a time-traveling, faster-than-light starship), Jeffries decided the ship needed a registration number. At the time he learned to fly, NC was the designator for aircraft registered in the USA. "N" means USA and "C" means Standard (as opposed to "X" for experimental, etc.). To make it fictitious, he said he simply added another "C". Rod never said what NCC meant (if anything), but we could logically surmise that he probably intended something like: N (United Federation of Planets) C (Earth) C (Faster than Light), or one of the Cs could mean Starfleet, etc. When asked about the meaning of the second C in one interview, Jeffries responded somewhat whimsically with something like, "I don't know... Space?" But he never backed that up with a serious quote. All he made clear was that it's pretty much just a number, like the ones on license plates. However, some organization would allow for the numerous ships we've seen that bear the first letter N, but followed by letters other than "CC". It would also allow for "NX" Excelsior (N-United Federation of Planets, X-Experimental). It would also allow for registration letters other than "N" for non-Federation planets. You couldn't force non-Federation planets to use it, but it's logical to assume that the registration system is not mandated by the Federation, but is, rather, some kind of agreement among the Federation, the Romulans, the Klingons, the probably hundreds of unaffiliated governments such as the Orions, etc.
      "Naval Construction Contract" was invented by an author in a Star Trek novel some time ago, apparently searching for some meaning for the letters. But that would make no sense for a registration number. In addition, although Starfleet follows mostly Naval traditions, it is clear throughout the Star Trek universe that the concept of "Navy" implies a military entity. When asked if it's the Navy, Kirk replies, "We're a... combined... service."
      What ever the official "canon" meaning is today, it's certainly not what Roddenberry and Jeffries intended, as there are numerous sources quoting them that it definitely doesn't mean 3 words beginning with N, C, and C. Anything using words beginning with N, C, and C has been "backronymed."

    • @chrismc410
      @chrismc410 6 лет назад +1

      @@FLAME4564 it still stands for "Naval Construction Contract" in the TNG era as far as I know.

  • @BanthaPooDoo64
    @BanthaPooDoo64 Год назад +1

    U just don’t mess w perfection ,films today haven’t learned that yet.