Flerfer Fails His Own Test
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Some people sent me messages correcting me. We do NOT bounce radio waves off the Sun. We bounce them off of other bodies in the solar system, and then calculate the dimensions of the solar system. So you can calculate how far the Sun is this way, but not by the method I said.
this guy is dense enough to collapse the intelligence of people in his schwachsinn-radius, so don't worry about that mistake 😏😁
Stanford Radiosciences Laboratory did measure the distance to the sun using radar on April 7th, 1959, and then twice more on April 10th and April 12th. The radar bounced off the sun's corona. It seems that it was a very difficult and not very precise method, which is why they never bothered with it again. I read that it took months for the best computers of the day to decipher the data. There was so much noise to sift through. But either way, the results show that it took about 16 minutes 20 seconds for the signal to return to the receiver after the transmission, and with the known speed of light we can use that to calculate the distance very easily. Even with this imprecise method, we get pretty close to 93 million miles.
mctoon27.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/radar-echoes-from-the-sun.pdf
Plasma, of which the sun is made, reflects radio waves quite well!!!
"We are all familiar with the moon bounce, but the "sun-bounce" is much more obscure accomplishment. The first successful attempt was transmitted on April 7th, 1959 at Stanford University. the radiomen on the job were Dr. Von Russel Eshleman, Lt. Col. Robert C. Barthle and Dr. Philip B. Gallagher, staff at Stanford University Stanford Electronics Laboratories. Their names appear together on a number of different astrological papers at Stanford:
The Stanford Electronics Laboratories group continued churning out white papers until 1961. It continued to make reports for NASA until at least 1973. It's notable that follows the departure of Gallagher. Barthe and Eschleman got all the press. Eschleman made the statement to the Stanford newspaper on Sputnik. Their quotes in Popular Mechanics weren't specifically credited. [SOURCE] Sensibly Escheman and Gallagher went on to work for NASA and continued to write arcane papers that I barely understand for decades.
Their experiment required a 40,000 watt transmitter. The antenna consisted of 5 miles of wire spread over 11 acres of ground. To quote the Popular Mechanics article "...the sun was difficult to reach by radar because it was 93,000,000 miles away and because of the 'thunderous radio noise' arising from it's turbulent surface." The signal's round trip took over half an hour.
The signal was a 30-second bursts of dots and dashes that was perceptible despite the random noise of the sun. The radar echo didn't come from the sun's visible surface but it's outer corona. The return signals were recorded to magnetic tape for further study with an IBM 707 computer. Anyone know where they have that recording at Sanford?
The experiment was repeated on April 10 and April 12, and the data was published in the journal Science on February 5, 1960. Popular Mechanics wrote it up in May 1960. More here.
POSTED BY JOSE FRITZ AT THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 04, 2016
LABELS: PHILIP GALLAGHER, RADAR, ROBERT BART
I am replying from the distant future when The Three Body Problem has already been released. Ye Wenjie would disagree about Bouncing radio waves off the sun.
I love the two options he gave him of:
1) deal with this
2) admit you have no idea what's going on
“If we assume the earth is flat then the math which should work fails”
“Aha! You just assumed the earth is flat!”
I wonder if the reason none of these people learn anything is because they are talking instead of listening. How do they get through life? I live for Peterson's laugh! ❤
I was just going to write this exact same thought. A flerf's wagging tongue will render them forever stupid. I submit this should be the next rule of flerf for McToon.
EXACTLY!! They ALL talk while Eric is explaining ANYTHING, which means they never learn anything from anyone. They read some conspiracy theory, and in their heads they make it law, proving they choose what to believe based on “their feelings” and reject actual facts. I can’t imagine going through life not knowing anything for certain because I reject all known facts “just because I FEEL differently”! Anyone who thinks they know more than everyone, literally everyone else, is someone who truly knows nothing. I go by the saying “you don’t know what you don’t know”, as it allows you to constantly be learning new things. These flerfers are beyond hope though, especially, as you pointed out, they talk when they SHOULD be listening! 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️👍🏼☮️
They get management positions or become politicians. Usually through nepotism.
There’s two kinds of people - people who listen to understand and people who listen for their next opportunity to speak.
I want to directly ask a flerfer: How exactly the f*ck would density and buoyancy work without gravity?
Something something flerf Electro magnetism 😂
Well, buoyancy would be difficult, as its formula has gravity in it. Density would be easy as it's mass per volume, and doesn't require gravity.
They literally just say “because up is up and down is down”. Don’t expect anything that looks like an explanation. Let alone something impressive or even coherent.
They think buoyancy is a force, and they think density is how things get "sorted vertically".
Then I ask them why vertically instead of horizontally? That shuts them up.
@@timhallas4275do you not think that buoyancy is a force
Typical FLERF "I don't have any tests. I don't have any maths. I don't have any experiments....but I know it's true!"
"I do my own research"...
Flerf on another channel, said, "Don't you think I've already researched all this sht". Then went on to say 'proton' instead of 'photon' for light.
Face palm!
So all that and it boils down to the flerf saying that he hasn't done any math so he doesn't claim any measurements. Why do flerfs even bother when ALL they have is denial?
Yep. And just for fun, point out that claiming the earth is flat, means claiming the curve is 0 degrees per mile, means you ARE claiming a measurement!
It amuses me that half the flerf “debunks”, even if they were right about the math and what they were observing, would prove that the earth curve was less, not that there was none. So they would be proving a larger spherical earth, NOT a flat one.
Eg all the “you can see too much!” Where ANY of the base cut off by the curve of the ocean (that is more than what would be cut off by waves on a flat earth anyway), means that you prove there is A curve, even if the predicted amount WAS wrong instead of them being bad at math.
If density were responsible for weight, then Flerfs would be the heaviest objects in the world and would sink through solid rock
Why is this man drinking out of a fire extinguisher
Angles to the Sun at local noon, one of the first debunks I saw to flat Earth "claims". Thank Sly Sparkane.
Polaris the southern pole the Moon all destroy their ignorance. Astronomy, navigation, physics the list is endless
That sly sparkane video is amazing.
Such a strange, sad, and diverse world we live in. We have one group of humans building superconducting supercolliders to understand the nature of fundamental particle physics, others launching into space marvelously complex infrared telescopes, others sending robotic explorers to other planets, others setting up laser networks to measure the rate that mountains grow and continents move, and still others manipulating the genome of plants to create designer varieties of agricultural crops. Then we have another group of humans, stuck pondering 16th century questions about the shape of the earth and worshiping the deity conceived in the myths and legends of the illiterate shaman of a tribe of Bronze Age desert people. Covering their eyes and sticking their fingers in their ears, they respond as though saying “nuh-uh” is a reasonable counter-argument to scientific evidence. It is an amazing testimony to the capacity of the human mind to reject anything that challenges deeply held, presuppositional beliefs in magic and superstition. Keep up the good work challenging these people. Although I doubt it will make any difference to them, perhaps listening will prevent some listener out there from descending into the same rabbit hole of superstition.
You may be right, but then you may be really, really wrong. Perhaps you have read this story as a child?
"The Emperor's New Clothes" is a classic fable by Hans Christian Andersen that satirizes human vanity and the fear of speaking the truth. Stories with similar themes often involve exposing hypocrisy, challenging societal norms, or revealing the folly of blind conformity.
Do you really trust and have you been able to prove everything you mention with your own experience?
What if the earth is stationary? Einstein was unable to disagree with Michelson Morley's experiment that proved no motion of the earth was found (no rotation AND no orbit). You can still believe the earth moves, but that's a religion, and Einstein is a believer, but he has no proof. He only has experiments showing him the opposite. So, we know the earth isn't moving. Next is the shape of where we live.
As for the shape of the earth, since it's not moving, we do not know for certain, do we? We do not have any full images. You mention telescopes and satellites, but there are no pictures. There's also not a single person that has been able to navigate north to south and show us with video footage how the sun and stars move at both of their fake "poles" of the earth. Nobody filming a compass showing them walking around the magnetic north pole either, nor south pole.
We can discuss gravity also I suppose, but density works just as well. Birds can fly by displacing air. Helium can float. Objects sink in water and yet fish can swim in it. Probably has nothing to do with the mass of the object that is nearby them. Fake concept created to get people to believe in planets and yet unable to show the "planets" and stars move due to gravity since we know the earth isn't moving around the sun (since it isn't moving at all).
That money we are paying is going somewhere. Like you mention, perhaps we are smashing some particles together but I've seen no evidence of anything and all the images appear to be composites. Even NASAs own workers explain they are just photoshopping the images. Think for a moment. If you really did spend all of that money, wouldn't you want to have something real to show for it? My father has built components for these satellites. He believes. But it's just that - a belief. Neither he nor anybody else has any proof that the work they are doing is actually being used.
Read the story if you are not familiar with it. Hope intelligent folks like yourself can wake up and tell the Emperor what you really see...
Scott, I think you granting them the status of humans is far too kind. Homo Sapiens can think and reason logically. These creatures are Homo Credo, they believe without evidence, they test nothing of what they believe they know. They choose to ignore solid scientific evidence, in favour of the nonsensical ramblings of a 2000 y/o book, that puts them exactly where the authors wanted - fearful and brainwashed, on their knees praying to Mecca, or to graven idols of a dead guy on a crucifix, or the supposed 'virgin' mother of that guy. They are insane, irrational, insufferable morons of the highest order.
"I don't claim math, because I've never made any measurements." Is another way of saying, "I don't care if you're right, or if I'm wrong, I'm right because I'm right because you're wrong, because I say I'm right."
What I've observed is that.. flerfs are energy vampires who get energy by other peoples frustration.
A few years ago I took part in a world wide experiment to prove that the Earth is a sphere, and that the sun is millions of miles away. About 75 people took accurate angle measurements to the sun at noon on the equinox. Someone compiled that data and charted it on a model of the flat earth. Only those measurements taken from 45 degrees N latitude and 45 degrees S latitude agreed that the sun was 3,000 miles above the equator. Every other measurement missed the flat earth sun completely. Next we took that drawing and bent it into a curve that matched a 25,000 mile circumference and guess where all the lines converged? A point in space about 93 million miles away. The flat earthers were convinced that we all lied about the measurements. Only everyone was documented on video. My measurement matched my exact latitude of 40.23 degrees n. I live near Pittsburgh Pa.
Pumped we’ve got a couple longer videos the last few days. The longer the 💩 show the better 😂
It's interesting that he sounded less monotone and robotic the more he tried to defend his indefensible position.
Almost as if he was snapping out of his delusion and becoming a little more normal..
For some reason, Flerfs repeatedly being observed to fail simple tests doesn't count as evidence of anything.
Even failing tests they create themselves does not convince them.
Yes, it does. It's evidence that they don't understand science.
Fun Fact:
Building site levels, on a spherical Earth.
Over 100 metres, the sagitta (height of bulge) will only be 0.2 millimetres.
You would need a micrometer to measure that.
made it real clear at the end who his papa Flerf is, witsit getsit.
Not even a curve can help flat earthers on a test.
On another channel, a flerf claimed fibre optic cables don't transmit light. He insisted there is no light in fibre optics.
Density and buoyancy disappears in the vomit comet during a dive. You literally float.
36:20 onwards summary: "Brawndo's got what plants crave: It's got electrolytes!"
The undeniable evidence Idiocracy is a real documentary, send back from the future via that time machine at the mall.
Don't know much about geography
Don't know much trigonometry
Don't know much about algebra
Don't know what a slide rule is for
But he KNOWS what shape the planet is!
Good song...
What a wonderful world that would be.. Sam cooke
Another great example of why Peterson really deserves that patience award. I could feel my brain melting from listening to that flerf's ooga booga nonsense.
BREAKING!! Flat earther fails to fathom the facts of physics and falls for fallacies.
Speaking of flat lines, this guys brain activity is flatlining in front of our eyes
7:23 It is vitally important here to specify that one's lattitude is the angle that Sun rays make with the cord of a non-swinging plumb bob at that location. There is no "point on Earth's surface" involved (only described and located..), there is no requirement for "locally flat surface" or "measuring angle from a curved surface.
Go anywhere on Earth where the Sun is visible today, Hang a plumb bob from a tripod, wait for the Sun to reach its highest point in the sky, then measure the angle between the Sun rays and the vertical plumb bob cord. That angle is the "lattitude" of the plumb bob. This will work on the sides of mountains, and on ice fields in Antarctica in December..
Flerfers keep PRETENDING that lattitude is the angle between an incident ray and the horizontal, they do this to pretend that the measurement is impossible unless Earth is flat AND LEVEL. (My windows are "flat", but they are as "not level" as they can be.. "level" does not mean "flat", "flat" does not mean "level"). The ACTUAL measurement of lattitude is taken relative to the VERTICAL reference of a plumb bob.
The only thing stupider than believing in a flat earth is drinking out of a red bucket every 41 seconds and sealing it tight between sips.
Peterson seemed extra fired up today. Love it. These people are so dense. I feel most know they are wrong they just want to be edgy and establish a false sense of superiority from us "sheep".
That Math do Math
blud came in, made caveman noises, and left.
I still don’t get how you have the patience for these potatoes. What always kills me is they think they’re so smart but can’t even do rudimentary investigations to find out Eric is a science TEACHER. They talk to him like he’s just some guy on the internet who doesn’t really know what he’s talking about (because that’s what they ARE), this results in them showing up for a battle of wits in which they are always completely unarmed! 😂🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Bro wants you to make a whole universe, why won't you do that for him? 😆
Ur intelligence is SO! awesome Eric!
The obsession of these people with personal “evidence” means they are doing the same thing as the ancient Greeks, ignoring 2000 years of scientific progress.
Simplistic thinking: “it seems to me…”
“You showed my three lines…”
Do Maths, not Meths, kids!
Mathemagic and Trickonometry are of the Santa! >:U
@@Slum0vsky If Santa exists, then where are my presents? Don't even think to imply I have been naughty!
@@doranku You just gotta have faith in almighty Santa! He revealed himself to me, it was hairy stuff!
@@David34981 😵💫
@@David34981are you implying that Santa doesn't shave his balls?
Your judge impression was quite entertaining :)
The caller said that a triangle does not show curvature on a globe. Actually, you need non-euclidean math where a triangle on a globe can have three 90 degree angles. Something impossible on a flat plane
"A murder has been solved. Could you think of a way we could solve this murder?"
God did it
You have to take in to account the tilt of the earth, but this guys not even getting it with it dumbed down. This guy went to the wizard of oz and ask for a breadstick.
Teaching a flerf something is like trying to build sandcastles to near to the waves.
That math don't math
"It's weird it takes 3 lines" Well, that might explain why you're a flat earther. You literally don't have a middle school education
I wonder how he would propose making a triangle without 3 straight lines...
@@okiedad5784Flerf: der, a square! Erf flat
“That math don’t math” 😂
They always believe all the science up until it goes against their God
His opening is the same applied to Volcanos. We can't recreate a full size volcano in a lab, that doesn't make Volcanos not exist.
He doesn't seem to understand what "repeatable" means.
12:44 Is that who i think it is in the chat asking "Peterson, is the Earth still banging?"
Remember: only shame can defeat ignorance :]
You sound sick! Get better soon!
How did he determine the propane tank had a pressure gradient with 1 EXTERNAL guage? Where is the pressure guage on the outside of the dome/ container?
That it's external in one thing. I wonder how you measure a gradient with a single gauge.
I don't claim to have a model! Hurr durr!😳🙄
a gas in a container actually has a miniscule pressure gradient... because gravity is pulling it down.
Without gravity, gasses just equalize the pressure in the container.
Just imagine the injustices that would sadly happen if flerfers were working in the criminal justice 😮😮😮I
Oooh I saw myself in the chat 🎉
Flat Earthers make the geocentric Catholics that arrested Galileo, look like geniuses
What validates a hypothesis is predictions of the hypothesis being confirmed by observations. A experiment is just a convenient way to produce those observations, instead of waiting for them to happen naturally. Some hypothesis can't be tested in a experiment, but they still can be validated observationally: for example, i have the hypothesis that the phases of the moon have a 28 day cycle. I can't make a moon in a lab and test it, but i can still observe the actual moon.
Some anti-scientists seem to think that only experiments made in a lab count as science, but that's just false.
Is that Pratt? 😂😂
Hard to tell without the garage/closet background lol
Flerfs and maths don't mix, no matter how simple. 1 + 1 is too advanced for them.
"It's false because I say it's false. It must be because it's my feeling. My unfounded claims are the only evidence I need".
Equator at equinox the sun is directly above.
“Logic” vs. math… I wonder which one I’m going with?
Is that the voice of Daniel Pratt? In his basement?
It does sound a bit like it.
That’s what I was thinking. But Pratt is more aggressive when he talks about this subject.
Sounds like Demmoch to me, if he took a lot of tranquilizers.
@@biggusdoggusNot sweary enough to be the Archduke or Derp.
Was this Daniel Pratt? He's truly a rapresentative of the F.E. movement, festering next to his water heater calling "globe believers" the worst names
29:22 its Abbott and constella, but if they got hit by the fucking ball
21:37 It wouldn't even matter the distance from Earth to the Sun in this experiment. The flat earther could just enter in the distance they believe the sun is from the earth. So let's just say the Sun is 200 miles above the Earth. You would still be able to do the experiment in the exact same way with a known height of the Sun. They believe the sun's inside of the dome so that means that they have an estimate on how high the Sun is relative to the dome. So it all still works.
But they don't know how high the dome is.
Robert C. Barthle and Dr. Philip Gallagher, achieved success in bouncing radar off the sun on April 7, 1959. The tests, in fact, were run on April 7, 10 and 12, with an average time of 16 minutes and 32 seconds spent for the signals to travel the 149 million km distance between the Earth and the sun and back again.
What’s with the monster red water jug?
sounds like Daniel Pratt
Thinks so as well
He sounds like Frito from Idiocracy!
Why does rhis guy Sound exactly like Daniel Pratt? Like maybe slightly more mellow but just a few minutes in and sounds like him.
The be absolutely fair: showing that the height of the sun does not match the model does *not* mean the Earth can't be flat. That is not what a model failing a prediction means. It means the *model* is wrong. The Earth could still be flat, but the model fails to take something into account which makes the suns height come out as arbitrary. In this case, the wrong assumption is that it uses a flat Earth.
Wow! Can't believe that the word 'stupidest' is an actual word
Inknew at the beginning how this one was going to be: The flerfer did not understand the simple math that clearly disproves his flat earth claim. That‘s what usually happens withnthem, when they have a script they follow and never were challenged before
Flerf on another channel, "How can bullet proof glass can stop a bullet, but can't stop [light] passing through it. How stupid are you to believe that".
He didn't use the word 'light', he said 'proton'
Face palm!
That math don’t math.
Stop mathing. Mathing is hard and I’d rather pretend.
Dude can't quite grasp the concept of three.
He understand 3, it is the same as his I.Q.
The highest he's ever counted was 2.
Okay, I'm a dumbass and also tired so my brain is not braining, what is the second angle at 16:00? Again, sorry for the stupid question
From point A (bottom of telephone pole) to You (point B) to top of pole (point C)
@@brettvv7475 Thanks
I'm a bit worried that you probably should not drink contents of a fire extinguisher.
I’m starting to think that math do math
23:34 That math don’t math
28:54 I guarantee if he did it he would get different data/numbers. Because he would do it wrong. Guaranteed.
The guy didn’t check non of this shit…. None at all…. And making claims. Unbeliveble
Correction for Planet P - there IS a very small pressure gradient inside pressurized containers. And it's due to gravity.
is that boiler room guy?
For the flattie, we do not triangulation for a sextant we use trilateration.
Does this guy really says we should recreate the big bang? xD
Top of Everest and sea level. Flerfs, why doesn't the higher atmospheric pressure at sea level equalise with the lower atmospheric pressure at the top of Everest? Where's the container.
Food helps our bodies. A tomato is food. What shape is a tomato? Round. 🎉
😆 "The most NPC player" 😅
Peterson, please get a bigger drinking vessel.
15:00 no, we not getting distance, not with triangulation. You are not understand, flerf.
Did he say corpuscular rays?
Can we please do an experiment to recreate Genesis or Noah's flood?
Thanks theists
31:44 flerfer when the laws of thermodynamics are no longer in their favour (it never was in their favour, but they are too dumb to realise it)
Is he at some points saying he's going around doing measurements and then whenever Peterson mentions the math that ain't mathing again he goes he doesn't do measurements, or did I pick that up wrong?
*PROPANE TANK*
He's talking about a TEMP. gradient not pressure
Why do people put themselves on the internet to be humiliated and laughed at like this?
Alot of flerfers have serious trust issues...