Basically it gives advantages in certain situations for classes like spies and snipers ever wondered how u got shot around that corner by the sniper? It might be because he has a higher ping than u
@BlackMesaEmployee 7. The Sniper doing a full turn-around because of the forced-uncloak sound, /in/ Phish's direction, not noticing, AND having his back turned for a backstab. Probably a 7, though I see it being an 8.
Have you tried using the big earner? I think the speed boost would help your playstyle a lot and enable you to get somechainstabs that you can't secure with stock that you end up dying for anyways
As Soundsmith says in his video about the Big Earner, that -25 health is VERY impactful, I think Salty is good enough to the point where he can just use stock. Besides, some of those kills he gets an instant before dying wouldn't be possible with the Big Earner, because, again, -25 health
@@astyurrakureat real ping itself actually benefits 2 of the classes, and the people who were lagging were playing those classes Pyro benefits because flamethrower jank And spy benefits because melee hit detection is client side. If an enemies position is only updating on your screen ~10 times per second as opposed to ~60, it’s a lot easier to hit a backstab.
Something that confuses me is why does Phish exclusively disguise as scout? Wouldn't it make sense to change that over the match so they don't know who to check?
If he disguised as a slower class then his walking speed is reduced, which is just kind of annoying. Disguises are harder to be convincing in competitive lobbies, So most people prefer not to reduce their move speed for a minor increase in sneakiness. Also might be muscle memory
I don't get why they paused the match when two players on the enemy team had the exact same ping, did they make their ping high on purpose to get an advantage or something?
Not only is that really high ping so its already a little odd (for reference me playing from new Zealand to servers in the US reaches about 130, so south America to North America servers really shouldn't get that), but the fact they had 2 people sitting on EXACTLY the same ping for an extended period and it just happened to be on the classes where high ping actually helps (sniper and spy). There's a decent chance of someone using a lagswitch or having other cheats that also affect ping. So yeah basically just a "ok this is a little bit suspicious, let's just take a moment to check if everythings legit before this starts proper".
if ur in NA, try newbie mixes! it's 6v6 only unfortunately but from what i've heard (from here in the eu where it's impossible to get into comp, lol) its a great way to get into the competitive scene in a low-stakes environment with an experienced coach to help u out.
I haven't played comp HL in like 12 years mind you, but if the meta is the same, it's common practice to either give up first or light hold first because the distance from first to second point is short for offense but long for defense, and the rollout to first just takes too long to be worth trying to defend. If you're wiped or something defending first, you basically are guaranteed to also lose second point and even if you didn't wipe, if you keep losing too many players, the staggering of spawns would make it hard to defend either point. It's just not worth the risk. In 6s, it was less of an issue because everyone rolls out pretty quickly.... But also 6s players hate payload so we rarely had leagues that would have swiftwater in the rotation
The enemy team feels really sus to me, I dont think hard cheats but that ping is really strange and they didnt let phish even get on their half of the map it feels like
One team held first and won. One team abandoned first and lost. I think the statistics speak for themselves
Shoutout to the admin for resolving the issue, he's a real one fr
0:08 Phish managed to spell "Cleanin'" wrong not even 10 seconds into the video
But he really WAS cleain!
20:58 "this is not your game"
This is the same person who says 2025 is gonna be my year after the first minor inconvenience of January 2024.
20:31 a wild Destiny player escaping the content drought through...another game with a bigger content drought
i know we all meme but salty is really good at spy it's crazy
"it's hard for spy to trick good players but when he does" - lazypurple
They weren't letting phish get away with aaanything after that first round lol
THE HEAVY IS HEAVY
Wait what was the problem with the 2 guys with 150 ping?
Maybe worried about a lagswitchy kind of situation? I don't really know like that, but I suppose I could see why he might be worried about it
cheating with high ping, so they get to headshot people on their screen when a higher ping wouldn't be able to
My guess is that it can be multiple things, and hard to say any which one it is, but it's probably good to have it investigated either way
Basically it gives advantages in certain situations for classes like spies and snipers ever wondered how u got shot around that corner by the sniper? It might be because he has a higher ping than u
common cheats also mess with ping. one cheat will show a high ping while u have lower ping when u check in console
31:45 would've been an amazingly funny elim
Elim? Elim???
@@puffyhowler615 -ination?????
it's called frag you pleb
Rate this elim on a scale 1 to 10
@BlackMesaEmployee 7. The Sniper doing a full turn-around because of the forced-uncloak sound, /in/ Phish's direction, not noticing, AND having his back turned for a backstab. Probably a 7, though I see it being an 8.
5:20 "i call bullshit im in mexico and i dont have that ping" that was so dumb to say lol
i love watching this team, its just always a rush
21:00 bleed diff
Have you tried using the big earner? I think the speed boost would help your playstyle a lot and enable you to get somechainstabs that you can't secure with stock that you end up dying for anyways
As Soundsmith says in his video about the Big Earner, that -25 health is VERY impactful, I think Salty is good enough to the point where he can just use stock.
Besides, some of those kills he gets an instant before dying wouldn't be possible with the Big Earner, because, again, -25 health
Looks like he listened
@@Ninjaberry17my goat
THAT SPY IS A- MEDIC!
What hud do you use? These videos make me wanna get back into playing haha.
hell yea new phish upload
What's the issue with the 150 ping? Is it some sorta peekers advantage type thing, or was there a ping limit for these matches? or
They were already at a player disadvantage, having a ping disadvantage was too much for the organizers
Plus since they were pretty close to the servers, it was a sign of internet issues
im pretty sure fake ping is a thing done by cheaters as a way to excuse their weird headshots and hits
@@astyurrakureat real ping itself actually benefits 2 of the classes, and the people who were lagging were playing those classes
Pyro benefits because flamethrower jank
And spy benefits because melee hit detection is client side. If an enemies position is only updating on your screen ~10 times per second as opposed to ~60, it’s a lot easier to hit a backstab.
35:17 a man of his bird if you will
please keep the tf2 content coming !! always hilarious
I love these videos so much
these vids are sooo good
Something that confuses me is why does Phish exclusively disguise as scout? Wouldn't it make sense to change that over the match so they don't know who to check?
im guessing its either hes lazy and muscle memory or the scout model makes it seem like the spys head is below so snipers miss headshots
If he disguised as a slower class then his walking speed is reduced, which is just kind of annoying.
Disguises are harder to be convincing in competitive lobbies, So most people prefer not to reduce their move speed for a minor increase in sneakiness. Also might be muscle memory
He also disguises as spy occasionally
I don’t get what was happening with the ping issue in the beginning. Did Phish’s team suspect cheaters?
They were at a player disadvantage. Having a ping disadvantage on top was too much for the organizers
@@wingdinggaster6737 I dont think thats the case, "they're both at exactly 150 ping, thats intentional"
@@orr4337 It is super sus, especially since I think it was spy and sniper
ah yes, BTS: Boys Tossing Swiftwater
0:07
cleain
Great content
I don't get why they paused the match when two players on the enemy team had the exact same ping, did they make their ping high on purpose to get an advantage or something?
No, they were already down on team size, being behind in ping was too much disadvantage according to the organizers
@@wingdinggaster6737Oh that makes sense
BTS= because (we held) the swiftwater (first)
Why'd they pause for 26 minutes at the start? Two people had 150 ping? What was the issue?
Not only is that really high ping so its already a little odd (for reference me playing from new Zealand to servers in the US reaches about 130, so south America to North America servers really shouldn't get that), but the fact they had 2 people sitting on EXACTLY the same ping for an extended period and it just happened to be on the classes where high ping actually helps (sniper and spy). There's a decent chance of someone using a lagswitch or having other cheats that also affect ping.
So yeah basically just a "ok this is a little bit suspicious, let's just take a moment to check if everythings legit before this starts proper".
14:23 trIcK StAb
So early, off to watch it i guess. I love bts highlander
this makes me want to play comp tf2, but then I remember I am shit at the game and have no friends lol
if ur in NA, try newbie mixes! it's 6v6 only unfortunately but from what i've heard (from here in the eu where it's impossible to get into comp, lol) its a great way to get into the competitive scene in a low-stakes environment with an experienced coach to help u out.
you guys should get uncle dane for next season
I like how americans think mexico is anywhere near south america
Why did they let BTS cap the first point without fighting ? Is there an actual reason for that decision ?
I haven't played comp HL in like 12 years mind you, but if the meta is the same, it's common practice to either give up first or light hold first because the distance from first to second point is short for offense but long for defense, and the rollout to first just takes too long to be worth trying to defend. If you're wiped or something defending first, you basically are guaranteed to also lose second point and even if you didn't wipe, if you keep losing too many players, the staggering of spawns would make it hard to defend either point. It's just not worth the risk.
In 6s, it was less of an issue because everyone rolls out pretty quickly.... But also 6s players hate payload so we rarely had leagues that would have swiftwater in the rotation
no enforcer on swiftwater is throwing
I've never clicked faster on a RUclips video endless its saltyphish 😎
The enemy team feels really sus to me, I dont think hard cheats but that ping is really strange and they didnt let phish even get on their half of the map it feels like
YES!
i nearly rang for them aswel ahahah i should of
yay tf2!!!
I see TF2, i click and then press like.
BTS BTS BTS BTS
nice tf2!
33 seconds lets go idc if im not first
Does BTS stand for Big Team Suck?
what? No? It stands for Big Time sRush
better then salty
Hell yeah, gotta get that big team suck
Phish I beg you please jump more when you're disguised as Scout. Nobody will look twice at you
first