Make MORE ISK in Low and Null Sec - Alpha Clone Training Video

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @warpeace8891
    @warpeace8891 4 года назад +5

    I have tried to find useful guides for new players. There are many attempts at this. The ones I have found are mostly like this one. An advanced user who is trying to give back to the game and community by helping others in various ways. Great thx, I appreciate your efforts. Unfortunately, invariably, each instance of these "helpful videos" are of very little help or use to a beginner.
    I could pick out hundreds of sentences even in just this video that uses terminology that is commonplace in the game but gobeldygook to a newcomer. I may as well be learning Klingon. it is hard to dumb things down to a level that is able to impart new information to ignorant but eager minds.
    For all the efforts of this and other users efforts to assist, at least for me, It is likely a better use of my time to stumble around in the game and learn to die. So far this approach shows me new concepts and circumstances that make this video useful AFTER I have already tried it. Otherwise I have not got a clue what you are talking about.

  • @massv953
    @massv953 7 лет назад +19

    errr if you dont have a specific 0.0 destination then why not just take some wormholes from highsec to null and avoid any of the chokepoints/gate camps?

  • @aciarduce
    @aciarduce 8 лет назад +4

    "....and in a frigate, also. Don't fly bigger ships. Bigger ships more likely to get caught. There's no reason to."
    My Stratios would disagree :D

  • @tracymckinney6763
    @tracymckinney6763 8 лет назад +4

    Everyone and their mothers are running data & relic sites in Syndicate. It's usually picked clean.

  • @leatherwiz
    @leatherwiz 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for your videos. It is a lot of work and they are really helpful.

  • @Buggerme75
    @Buggerme75 8 лет назад +3

    hey, great video, whats the systems on dotlan that i see with a glow "aura" around them? like a fuzzy glow. I've not seen them before and dont know what they mean
    11:19 see the few systems in the middle with a greeny yellow outline glow

    • @jakeurbooty
      @jakeurbooty 6 лет назад

      Fairly sure that means there is an active incursion in that constellation.

  • @RajivLochanPanda
    @RajivLochanPanda 3 года назад

    Outer ring is heavily camped since that's the only place to get mining ship BPOs at NPC base price. There are groups who control it's supply to market and make it impossible for others to get it.

  • @rubenbuckens399
    @rubenbuckens399 7 лет назад +1

    11:00 good tip,, that's useful

  • @MoesGetnFitToday
    @MoesGetnFitToday 6 лет назад +2

    This is great content. Thanjs man, learned alot

  • @iruene2637
    @iruene2637 7 лет назад

    Really nice tip. It wouldn't have ocurred to me. Thx

  • @Abyousiv
    @Abyousiv 6 лет назад

    Incredibly informative.

  • @uncletimo6059
    @uncletimo6059 8 лет назад +20

    You know what the number #1 advantage is of alpha clone over an omega clone?
    Alpha clone does not care about PLEX-ing his account. He plays for fun, and plays as much or as little, and as casual, as he wants.

    • @Eveproguides
      @Eveproguides  8 лет назад +3

      I see your point, I also play for fun but do spend a few hours a week making enough ISK to PLEX and fund my PVP.

    • @uncletimo6059
      @uncletimo6059 8 лет назад +1

      And I see your point.
      In solo PvP though is skewed towards whoever has the better toon skills (i.e. a 2012 character will obliterate a 2016 character), whoever has the bigger guns/armor (duh), and last whoever has more skill in game (and that should be the player who played longer, but not necessarily so).
      Alphas seem like a gimmick right now of "bro fleets" who mount up and pew pew everybody in their path. Although I think those who organize those alpha clone fleets "just for the lulz" have their own agenda and actually do it for their corporations in game.
      But that's the only way alphas will be really effective - F1 monkey blob. I am trying to go solo route to see if it's possible on my channel (in polish) and as a brand new player (2 weeks+) am learning a lot, so we shall see where that leads.
      That was a huge segue..... anyway, as alpha I don't really care about isk other than replacing my ship, which right now is a cheapo frig setup.

    • @DieEnteable
      @DieEnteable 8 лет назад

      That's your perspective, Alpha clones are very limited in terms of skills and options, most people will aim to upgrade their account in due time to be better at whatever it is they were doing before or to be able to do stuff they couldn't. As such tips on how to make isk are very helpful.

    • @ITAmich
      @ITAmich 8 лет назад +1

      I disagree. I'm an alpha and having fun with exploration (relic and data) but I do want to fund myself enough to get PLEXes on a regular basis to fly better ships.

    • @grueti21
      @grueti21 8 лет назад +3

      you should not focus on what an alpha can't do. Focus on what an alpha can do and make the best of it.

  • @GDPanda69
    @GDPanda69 5 лет назад

    o/ I have to raise my hand as a younger pilot who got got in D85 running a L4 distro mission. Good learning experience though!

  • @dirty706
    @dirty706 6 лет назад

    I mainly play solo and trying to find combat missions in lowsec are hard because your reputation has to be over a certain number.

  • @ravernot8889
    @ravernot8889 8 лет назад +30

    I wonder how many campers watched this....

    • @mightofgod
      @mightofgod 7 лет назад +1

      xDD

    • @RexZShadow
      @RexZShadow 7 лет назад +8

      Not really worth it since this is focused on alpha clones meaning the amount of loot they could get off of people following this tiny since you're literally targeting newb who have nothing lol

    • @melanclock
      @melanclock 5 лет назад +2

      the campers already know this information

  • @Morkull
    @Morkull 8 лет назад

    very nice bit of info, thanks for sharing :)

  • @DeviousKid45
    @DeviousKid45 7 лет назад

    Abaddon you're the best. Come back to Wingspan man! Love ya!

  • @nilau8463
    @nilau8463 8 лет назад +1

    Thank you for the guide, I did some exploration in those areas and got myself a cargo of 60kk value. Sadly I have lost it while I was in a datasite, suddenly 4 blood raiders appeared. Is there a way to protect myself from them? I didn't had this problem in WH exploration.

    • @NathanVisti
      @NathanVisti 8 лет назад +2

      orbit whatever you are hacking at 3k so you can cloak as soon as someone shows on your overview. As for the rats just keep an eye out and warp when they first appear. Goodluck :)

  • @ptech8439
    @ptech8439 7 лет назад

    How would i setup a heron for exploration and a condor for transport?

  • @jibisjib
    @jibisjib 8 лет назад

    12:53 Until now :) There are currently a potential 2096 reasons to camp that gate :D

    • @Eveproguides
      @Eveproguides  8 лет назад

      True, but hopefully not everyone takes this literally and instead apply it to other areas of the game.

  • @the87thking95
    @the87thking95 7 лет назад

    Could you please make a mining one.

  • @Fire-pt1sk
    @Fire-pt1sk 7 лет назад

    Any advice if I head off to Syndicate?
    I'm joining a corporation out there.

  • @prodiqtreithop4837
    @prodiqtreithop4837 8 лет назад

    Interesting stuff, thanks. Just a question - does all WHs have sleepers guarding the relic/data sites?

    • @Cyklonize
      @Cyklonize 7 лет назад

      Prodiq Treithop not all of them there are wormoholes(c1-3 if i'm not mistaken) that will have pirate faction data/relic sites(guristas or other prefixes in their name usually indicates that) they are unguarded but hacking them might prove difficult for new player.

    • @ananthushine5234
      @ananthushine5234 7 лет назад

      They are quite easy if you know the rule of six

  • @woodygar
    @woodygar 8 лет назад

    i managed to get to a nice quiet null sec area avoided numerous attempts to scram and kill me on the way that was fun. Has Syndicate got any industry at all ?

    • @Eveproguides
      @Eveproguides  8 лет назад

      Not sure what you mean. There used to be some mining type people around Syndicate but I'm not sure if they are still around.
      But yes, there are stations where you can research or manufacture stuff.

  • @bobbell9623
    @bobbell9623 8 лет назад +6

    Been playing for years. NULL SEC IS NO PLACE FOR A LONE PLAYER. 1. There is no market. you have to go back to jita to replace anything. 2. Null sec has choke points on the way to hi sec and are camped often enough to prevent good isk activities. 3. New player isk (90% +) comes from ratting and mining. 3. Periodically throughout the years I have tried exploration and never not even close has it been more profitable than mining or ratting. 4. FOR NEW PLAYERS THE FASTEST PATH TO MAKE 100M + PH is to train for escalations or market trading. Both have mind numbing drool inducing qualities, but they are safe and reliable.

    • @Rurn1
      @Rurn1 8 лет назад +3

      I lived in null sec alone for a good while, its nice if you want to just explore. i used to stay out for as long as i could, dumping all my loot into an NPC station, then when i had a couple bill worth i would search for a WH to any highsec or lowsec system and export it. made me a good chunk of change as a new player.
      and honestly if you arent making more than mining or ratting then you are not very good at it. exploration is better profit for me than ishtar ratting or hulk mining - its not even close, i make atleast twice as much exploring as i do with my 2 miners.. compared to a rorq or a carrier its lower but thats a huge SP difference.

    • @otacon1024
      @otacon1024 6 лет назад +4

      +1 to what Brendon is saying. But just to go over some of your points:
      1) If you're going to null for a while, you're going to stock up on replacement ships, ammo, and anything else you may need in advance. You plan on losing stuff and plan your supply accordingly. There are usually at least 1-2 trade hubs in every null-sec region, though. Obviously not quite the selection of Jita, but what is there isn't insanely overpriced as you might expect. I usually see markups of 10-20% for items, but often you can get stuff damn near Jita prices, or even lower if someone is leaving the area and doesn't want to haul all their stuff out.
      2) First part of that is very true, there are choke points between null/high which are a problem. A solution to that problem (and a big part of your first point) is wormholes. If you plan on moving into a null region, you go there in an empty travel-fit, shield-tanked interceptor that can survive a couple of smartbombing battleships (which are your only threat in a travel interceptor). You equip a Core Probe Launcher to scan signatures, and a Prototype Cloaking Device so you can scan in peace cloaked in a safespot. You get to your desired system/station, set it as a home station or/and make a jump clone. Periodically check the surrounding systems until you get a wormhole to high-sec, or to a WH system with a high-sec static. At that point you just haul in everything you need. Null is all about opportunity, and a big part of that if you're solo is utilizing wormholes when they pop up, both for re-supplying and hauling your loot out to sell. As a side note, they can be an extra source of ISK. I have 4 gas mining alts in my null system. Whenever a C5/C6 pops up in a nearby system, which is fairly often, I check them for the best gas sites. If there are any, I ninja them for an easy 130 mil per site per 15 min.
      The point about choke points preventing good ISK activites is completely moot, because you're obviously not going to set up shop in and farm a choke-point null system, unless you're there specifically to earn ISK by killing others and have the means to do so. You're going to have maybe a few chokepoints in any region, and regions are usually 100+ systems. You simply do your "ISK activities" in one of those hundreds of systems rather than a choke system.
      3) New player ISK comes from ratting and mining because new players are always told to rat, mine, or do L4 missions. If you've never gotten exploration to be more profitable than ratting or *mining*, you're doing something horribly wrong. I assume you're either talking about high-sec sites, got blown up in null too often for it to be worth it, or simply suck at the minigame enough to fail them more often than not. Not trying to be a dick about it, I just can't even comprehend how null exploration could be worse income than ratting of mining. Yesterday, I undocked, ran 3 relic sites in my home system + one next door, and had 300 mil in loot in like 20 minutes. Obviously, those were some of the better sites which won't happen all the time, but I can't even begin to imagine the ungodly amount of time it would take me to mine that much worth of ore, or how many hours of killing rats that would be. Unless you're talking mining gas in C5/C6, then sure, that could be more profitable, especially if you can clear the rats and huff the entire sites. But suffice it to say, I had 2 bil after a week in null, doing maybe 6-7 runs in just my system + the surrounding 5 ones - aka minimum possible effort, as I was mostly busy with the logistics of getting ships and gear into the system, setting up tactical bookmarks around the area, figuring out the locals etc.
      4) For a nice change of pace after all that, totally agree with this one :D Well, don't have much experience with escalations, but station trading is probably the easiest, most risk-free activity that can still bring in a ton of profit in EVE. It also takes very little skill training to have a really efficient trading alt. You will need some starting capital though, and I wouldn't recommend it as a sole activity - it's more for logging into an alt, updating a few orders, and then doing something more engaging in the game. If you're new to the game and end up just updating a spreadsheet all day every day, you'll likely quit the game before even getting into it. Hell, it's probably more boring than mining or running L4s, and that's saying a lot. It's much better ISK than both, though. Just don't start trading in Jita, spreads are too low and there's too much competition for new players. You'd have to literally refresh orders 0/24 to buy or sell anything. Things tend to be less chaotic in smaller hubs, so you don't have to micromanage nearly as much, and your margins are better. I update my orders like 1-2 times a day, if I feel like it, and still manage to pull in a few bil every month.
      All that being said, it's relatively easy for a lone player to survive in null provided they're experienced enough. The only problem when you're alone is that you usually won't be able to fight anything, as others will operate either in small packs or large fleets rather than solo. So most of the time you're playing the role of pray for the predators and have to avoid fights all the time, which can get tiring. But generally, I actually enjoy that aspect of it, constantly playing outnumbered and outgunned but coming out on top. It also makes the game much more engaging, because you have to be constantly aware of your surroundings, the people you're dealing with, and how they're likely to try and take you out. At the same time, they're doing the same thing and trying to figure out how you're going to evade them in order to counter you. It's basically mind games within mind games within mind games :D
      For NEW players, however, I definitely wouldn't recommend null unless they can join some massive alliance. But at that point it's pretty much just high-sec with better loot rather than true null-sec. Probably worth it for the ISK, not so much for learning to become independent and survive in a hostile environment. No need to learn that when you have defense fleets and free ship replacements.
      Also, sorry for the wall of text, smoked too much and went way into it xD

    • @zenzeo
      @zenzeo 6 лет назад

      just get a job, work 1 hour and play the game like a GAME not like an office job ^^

    • @Pedrooko
      @Pedrooko 5 лет назад

      Wrong. The easiest way to get isk as a newbie is obviously exploration.

  • @bronzedisease
    @bronzedisease 6 лет назад

    Got out of hi sec, never looked back . It’s neither safe nor profitable

    • @jojorulez11
      @jojorulez11 6 лет назад

      this^ Im scared to jump my nightmare to the new incursion site 20 jumps away because highsec no longer provides any safety

  • @EskaronVokonen
    @EskaronVokonen 3 года назад

    Maybe you should re-title this video : How to move into null sec.

  • @jele38
    @jele38 7 лет назад +1

    That moment when you realize as a alpha that it's bullshit because mining not only takes forever to do in null but the rats come olmost every second making that much harder

    • @massv953
      @massv953 7 лет назад +1

      trading is by far best thing alpha can do, I made a few billion and never left jita

    • @Pedrooko
      @Pedrooko 5 лет назад

      @@massv953 wrong. The best way to get isk as alpha is exploration in WS.

    • @massv953
      @massv953 5 лет назад

      @@Pedrooko exploration has its limits, trading does not, once you are operating with billions in buy/sells you make far more being a trader

    • @bertholdtohoover446
      @bertholdtohoover446 3 года назад

      @@massv953 how do you do it? It's fucking scary to lose all your shit while knowing you have no.idea what you're doing.

    • @massv953
      @massv953 3 года назад

      @@bertholdtohoover446 only trade things that are easy to sell again for one thing, not rare items you need to find a buyer for. Focus on getting all the trade tax etc corp skills, these are super important. I made most of my money in very high volume common items(materials,ores,ammo) things that have thousands of the same thing being bought and sold every day. Then remember that 1% profit is still profit, and that 1% of 1 billion is 10 million isk. Sellling 5 billion isk worth of some high volume ore or something at 1% profit is 50 million isk made. Its slow but once you are working with larger numbers/amounts of isk you really start to see how trading is faster profits than almost any other activity. It does require you understand what you are trading, the market for it and knowing how much profit you can make with taxes etc. Also the active markets like jita will require that you have monitoring of the trade sheets at all times(there are parsers and bots to help with this, but not all are 'legal')

  • @albertpietrosanu2667
    @albertpietrosanu2667 Год назад

    Dude what the fuck? I make more ISK on high if you show me in low and null?!!

  • @OzarkGenerations
    @OzarkGenerations 6 лет назад

    First of all. The colored spaces on Dotlan's Universe map are NOT indicators of highsecurity. The region of Aridia is mostly lowsecurity space. I think it has 1 highsecurity system. You meant "empire." Secondly... Yes, it's possible to make more ISK in... Wait... Wut? This is a GAME. You CAN go to 0.0 and pledge yourself to CTA's and Strat Ops. You can also go be profitable in lowsecurity and deal with real players who have made bringing grief to other's an art form (if only in their lame obnoxious smack talk). The big question is: What form of play style will you most enjoy?
    Because whatever that is.. Do it. It's your $15 USD a month. If you like running high security missions: Great. Every style of play in EVE comes with trade-offs. Be sure you know them before you jump blindly in. At one time I was raking in billions per week in a C5 WH... Until I got evicted and lost a lot. Not fun, not worth it, won't go there again. Trade-offs. Know 'em.

  • @constructioneerful
    @constructioneerful 8 лет назад +1

    The guides are fun..and useful but they have a weak spot that has only been addressed anecdotally. Someone needs to create a resource..a checklist.. To tell you..the new pilot..what type of ship you are looking at prior to engaging it.
    Probably the biggest thing is knowing every ship in the game, at least those ships you know you can beat, and what not to fight. Instead of flying blind..There must be a crib sheet somewhere? New pilots need something that can be pinned to the desk, that tells them quickly ...as soon as a ship appears as a potential aggressor or target...what type of ship it is, and if it's a worthwhile target, and what type of weaknesses and strengths it has. Not found anyone offering that?
    I'd guess you need to know its preferred fighting range, it's inbuilt armour/ shield weakness, it's preferred weapons, it's probable manoeuvrability and speed..
    That said, I know you have to check the pilots biography and kill list, time in the game, etc.. Likely skill points..but the process surely begins with the type of ship.