Balisongs / "Ninja Stars" / Nunchucks - Why Are They Banned?
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- Опубликовано: 2 мар 2023
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It has been at least 10 years since I first made a video about unreasonable, silly weapon bans... Since then, have legislators learned to use more common sense or perhaps even solid arguments with evidence backing them up to decide what should be prohibited and what should be legal to own?
In short: Nope.
Balisongs ("butterfly knives"), throwing stars (shuriken), and nunchaku are still banned in many (if not most) places outside of the US and also a few American states. Let's examine the common justifications for these laws and think about whether they hold water (spoiler: they don't).
Throwing stars are illegal, throwing knives and axes are not. The same is true for switchblades (automatic knives with a blade that opens at the push of a button) and other folding knives, daggers, etc.
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Everyone knows that you can't mug, assault, or murder someone unless you use a sufficiently cool-looking weapon, and criminals wouldn't dare breaking the law in the process of mugging, assaulting, or murdering someone.
Wait, criminals can only mug you with cool and illegal weaponry?! Why did I give that guy with a brick my stuff then?!
Nail on the head here. Style points are important in gangs. In my younger days, when I was ignorant and flamboyant, I took a halberd to my mugging sessions just to gain the favour of my elders. It didn't work very well as I mostly roamed narrow alleyways and the corridors of the subway, and as I grew older I came to the realisation they probably laughed behind my back.
I'm a nurse now, paying back to the community I occasionally halberded.
I know people who have been mugged with a screwdriver or even a common cutlery fork, you just need to be sufficiently deadly looking while pointing at the eye of the victim or maybe some other weakspot like the jugular.
@@Donnerwamp I mean would you rather mug someone with a plain old bat or a bat with nails in it?
@@Excalibur01 Any bat, young or old, is still better than one with nails through it. Unless you're thinking a throwing bat, I guess the wings could help if you splayed them out somehow.
Gravity knives are illegal? Wouldn't non gravity knives just float away?
Gravity knives blew up Sandra Bullock's Space Shuttle and killed George Clooney.
The government doesn't want us to know that shh
😂
they want to silence isaac newton!!!! beware of the governments lies!!! gravity is not what it seems
Imagine if you will, a knife enchanted to _steal_ the gravity of the person it cuts.
The more it kills, the heavier it gets.
"Oh no, gravity knives and switchblades open too fast!"
Fixed blade knives: "Allow us to introduce ourselves..."
I think it's more to do with concealment
@@realdragon just get bigger pockets and bypass the entire “concealment” viewpoint
@@tdoyr2119 That also depends on the laws ni your country, any kind of knife is banned in public space with a lot of people like mall or concert or sports event. At least in my country
@realdragon my fixed belt gets scout mounted to my belt and you can't see it unless you lift my shirt🤷♂️ thats 5.5 inches of blade easily hidden
@@realdragon whatever country you live in has some goofy laws, but here in the US, most of these laws are made on the basis of “concealment” which is completely ridiculous. In California, those retractable security batons are completely illegal because they can be hidden. However, you could also just wear a jacket and tape a much better, fixed baton inside and it’s a-okay
I still remember the day I was talked to by a police officer because I was carrying a wooden sword to a fun little "duel" my friends were going to have. Yes, I got my ass kicked. Now you know.
Three days later, I was WALKING THROUGH STORES and through a SCHOOL YARD carrying a big-ass woodcutting axe, and nobody batted an eye. And before anyone asks, I wasn't going to school at that time. I was carrying it because someone at the school had requested someone bring an axe TO THE SCHOOL to chop down a tree on Facebook, and my mother asked me to do so.
No cops, no nothing. I could've taken at least two kids per swing with that thing, but because its a "woodcutting axe", they somehow conveniently think it won't be used to kill. And also keep in mind, most of the School wasn't aware I was coming. I walked through the front doors, past the principal's office, across the school yard mid-recess, and started hacking at a tree whist being crowded by 10 year olds and younger.
Lol, you could've totally ax-murdered those kids if you wanted with people not figuring out what happened until after it happened.
same with a large branch saw! lol. ppl that are afraid of how "dangerous" something looks shouldnt be making laws or policy.
At our elementary school, the teachers made us bring bolo (a type of knife) so we can mow the lawn Filipino style.
sooo, you were being a good boy, chopping down an unwanted tree, while all the time wondering why nobody challanged you about a axe over a wooden sword. Cause people are programmed to be stupid. Also you are a good kid. CAuse you didnt chop down those bullies. I know you were thinking it.
This is why the phrase, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE. NOT THE ITEM A KILLER IS USING KILLS PEOPLE..
Ireland has a similar law called the "Offensive weapons act 1990" which bans the most specific "Ninja weapons" you can imagine, weapons so impractical they've never actually been used except in movies. And especially in Ireland.
Coincidentally movies came out around the same time featuring those weapons :)
So Ireland has a law that is entirely based on politicians being scared of fictional weapons in movies.
as a kid I was fascinated by a book illustration on how nunchaku in Okinawa are connected by a rope without knots, so I replicated the illustration with two pieces of broken broomstick and some twine (it involves drilling a couple of holes in each stick and threading the rope through in a specific way). When I realised it was a forbidden weapon, I pulled out the twine and it ceased being one :D
So is the Flying Guillotine also illegal in Ireland?
It reminds me of the anti-aombie knife law in London where any sort of bladed weapon with a bright green handle, or other zombie thems, are illegal. As if a bright green handle or biohazard signs printed on the blade would make a knife somehow more dangerous.
California residents: Hey, I've seen this one..
So it's a "don't try this at home kids" law? I have watched untrained fools injuring themselves with nunchucks, and I never saw any reason to interfere....I have had 25 years of training in various Dojo, so one gets to see both fools and savants. Still, I'd rather just carry a Jo, it is a simple walking stick ( but mine is made of White Waxwood...)
The term "automatic knife" implies the existence of "semi-automatic and burst fire knifes"
The electric knife by sister uses in the kitchen would be a weapon of mass destruction in some countries.
@@aroundthebend721 🤣🤣
Following this line of thought I think I'd apply semi auto to assisted open and burst fire to ballistic.
I've also heard of the mythical "select stabbing" knife.
Those laws are just dumb. The UK has one of the strictest laws in the world in terms of carrying even remotely dangerous tools, and have terrible knife crime stats.
In Poland on the other hand you can carry literally whatever you want for no reason (except for firearms) and our ratios of any dangerous tool offences are one of the lowest in the world.
In Poland you can literally walk into the supermaket being 14 years old, buy a butterfly or 'automatic' knife and no one will ask a question, yet there's almost no crimes related to dangerous tools.
when fear is more common than common sense you end up with laws in place to 'protect' us from ourselves.
I'm actually surprised you didn't bring up the lethality of lawn darts before they were banned as a toy
Or the lethality of kinder eggs.
Or GUNS, HOW COULD ANYONE FORGET ABOUT THIS I NEVER SAW ANYONE COMMENT GUNS IN HERE
@@minty9984 because guns aren't banned nor should they be.
@@Master_Yoda1990 kinder eggs are the bomb, my 6 yr old has loved them since she was like 2
@@whiteouthamstra yeah I had kinder eggs once, but I personally loved the Wonder Ball. I do no miss them.
In the US, there’s an organization called “Knife rights”, which aims to standardize knife laws across states and repeal laws which restrict the sane and reasonable use of tools.
Eat the rich.
Didn't know that! Thanks!
They got all knife laws repealed in my state back in 2014, and to the surprise of absolutely no one...the world didn't end and crime didn't skyrocket. I now carry a Microtech Scarab for my EDC. They were also helping a chef in New York who caught a felony charge for carrying his kitchen knives(yes...) to work.
while this is true, i hope eventually they wont be needed to do such. more states, if not more countries around the world someday, coming to the side of understanding America's 2A in its intended and original way as opposed to what its been misattributed and misinterpreted to (in a rather Orwellian way at that) all this time later. all weapons are, after all, just tools without free will or intent in the end.
@@logicplague2077i knew of a chef getting his knives taken by the police too
40 years ago my dad was walking to his truck and a guy tried to rob him. My dad broke his nose with a hard salami. He got arrested for it as well but the case was dismissed. Judge couldn't stop laughing and the guy had a pretty long rap sheet😄
Good thing he got a judge with a little common sense, as well as a sense of humor and justice, today that would have likely went sideways for him.
Back then a judge could actually decide whether or not a case had merit. Now, in NY, a judge doesn't even have a law degree, they just sign as a sworn witness for the state and follow any agenda the DA pushes. Or guns laws suck as well.
So basically your dad pulled out his big, hard meat and really gave it to the guy? 🤣
@@PinataOblongata this was pre-rainbow days sugar skull. Everything wasn't all oily gladiators and tapered blunt objects.
@@toddfarthing8760,
I find that really hard to believe that a judge would be required to have a law degree and a member of the bar of the state where he or she holds court. I am not questioning your honesty but rather how would the higher courts, and legislative bodies just allow that to happen.
If you want a good laugh, have a look at Australia's prohibited weapons legislation. It's written SO loosely that if you tied two toilet rolls together with a piece of spaghetti, that would be considered "nunchaku" and be an illegal weapon. It's something like "any two stick-like objects fastened together with any type of flexible material", but I can't recall the exact wording.
At least it makes more sense than banning specific weapons, if you wanted to ban any weapon like objects.
😂😂😂
@@RoryJordaan it really doesn't imagine a kid getting arrested because they wanted to be creative and make fake nunchucks to play pretend with
Lol, a fishing pole tangled with a stick is illegal.
Wait, but an iron chain is not a flexible material!
I think these kind of laws only exist so politicians can make themselves look good. They're also good for scaring people--if you can make people think they're in danger and _you_ can protect them, a lot of them will let you get away with anything.
Call me weird, but this kind of reminds me of the Japanese laws about censoring genitals. It is entirely meaningless, but it doesn't get revoked, because there's no politician who would want to have their names associated with this "taboo subject".
That said, I personally think these weapon bans in particular had much more to do with kids playing with them and injuring each other and themselves, and it was easier to just blanket-ban them than to try to regulate them so that little Billy wouldn't burst his testicles while doing a totally radical nunchuck move, dude!
That’s how politicians support gun industry.
My favorite argument about automatic kniv s is this: If you plan to attack someone you have all the time in the world to open the knife in your pocket. If you are attacked and have to defend yourself, speed of opening is critical. So who does the law help?
"who should you ever need to defend yourself from?"
they don't seem to think it is valid for someone to want to defend themselves, this is why they ban guns, and knives, and mace, and body armour and anything that could possibly be used to defend against someone assaulting you.
i don't know that it's malicious like "make them feel vulnerable and scared so they will give us more power to protect them" i think they just think "just calls the cops, protecting you is their job"
Yes but I'd argue that in street conflict situations, which I've both witnessed and been victim of, the ability to quickly draw a knife, otherwise kept in the pocket, by the agressor(s) is also very important. I'm still against these absurd laws but in practice an automatic pocket knife is handy also for the agressors.
@@tuseroni6085 I say split the difference because while there is a lot of ill intentioned people involved there are also atleast as many people who simply fall for fear mongering involved.
Liberal voting will always protect the criminal because the people voting this stuff in are cowardly and don't want to see them on the people they know.
It has nothing to do with public safety.
@@tuseroni6085 the biggest motivation for politicians is having something to point to and say "There look I made you safer", that will look good at first glance to scared idiots.
Like most "dumb" laws, these are based upon feelings and fear rather than facts. The need to hold something in one hand and open a knife with the other comes up more often than many people think, particularly in farming and animal husbandry settings.
No, they're based on a desire for control. Fear is merely an excuse to seize said power.
And electrical work, 100%. That’s why we use special boxcutters with a longer razor, let’s us push out a 2-3 inch blade one handed, has it lock, and then we can slide it back in with one hand.
Also search and rescue as well has HVAC technicians that install duct work in roof cavities (crawling around in roof trusses you very often get in a position where you only have 1 hand free)
They are also based on anecdotal evidence. Some politician heard someone can do something with a weapon, founded or unfounded, and they are writing the prohibition into a bill
Single hand opening is a necessary feature, if you only HAVE one hand
When I was a kid, I, of course, made some nunchucks to play with my friends. They, obviously, made their own. And we managed to hit one another or ourselves, by accident. We all survived. We also used sticks as swords, and hit each other with those on purpose. We still survived.
It is amazing what kids will do. LOL
Except for Kenny.
@@paulgoogol2652 ... n timmy ended up in a wheelchair
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Burns under rings and near them are particularly nasty
@@willam1992 you don't want to see what an arc welder will do to a high school class ring.
@@dwightdhansenI remember my school offering class rings and literally not a single person got one lol. Class of 2017 well if I hadn't dropped out
I remember, when I was a teen, wanting to buy a ninja sword and finding out they were illegal in Canada. Shurikens too! The owner of the martial arts supply store I went to said I could try shipping one from the states, but there was only a 30% chance it would slip by customs and wasn't worth trying (probably 0% these days, with the state of the border now).
The idea that a samurai sword is perfectly fine, but a ninja sword is bad, because it's ''an assassin's weapon'' was absolutely ridiculous to me. As if the only thing stopping me from murdering someone was the fact that my weapon didn't have the word ''ninja'' in it! "On no, I want to kill someone, but all I have is this samurai sword. No murder for me, I guess." As if owning a certain kind of blade or throwing weapon will incite violence in the owner or make them join a gang or something. Complete nonsense!!! 🙄
You don't remember the Muramasa?!
That things real i reckon, all ninjato's are cursed blades that make their wielder kill everything in sight.
What is a ninja sword? I'm pretty sure swords are legal here unless you are carrying it around for a stupid reason.
The Ninjatō is essentially a Katana with a straight edge but shorter blade. There’s basically no historical evidence that it was actually a real weapon used by shinobi. So yeah it was “invented” in the 20th century, though it is theorized to be based on the Chokutō which was the sword used before the invention of the Katana
The Logic in The UK is that the gangs switched weapons. Our armed response time is super quick. Hear shot within ten minutes a swarm of armed cops are there. so gangs went for cheap asian style swords for executions. quiet and effective. most other swords are same rules as knives (they are just big ones) I've carried a full on sharp longsword through the street in a major town but I had reason. same with airsoft. carry with reason. you don't need to randomly carry a blade in a city or town. countryside is different so are the rules and implementation of the law. More reasons in the countryside so more leeway.
In Canada you don't have an equivalent to our 2nd Amendment. That's why Justine Trudeau stated that you have no right to defend yourself with a firearm, even if you're being attacked by someone with a firearm. Justine Trudeau is a Klaus Schwab protege. I've been to Canada, you're all lots of fun to be around and friendly, I loved it there but Justine Trudeau is a threat to your way of life and has taken some tyrannical actions. Actions that make Klaus Schwab proud. Justine Trudeau has even expressed admiration for China's form of governing.
I always thought many of these bans came from the ‘won’t somebody think of the kids’ attitude. Some lawmakers saw kids (including their own) emulating ninjas from TV and didn’t like it or try to understand it. (Ninja Turtles and a film called ‘Ninja Kids Phantom Force’ are the ones I remember liking).
It’s a lot easier to make laws banning things than to repeal them.
Which I attribute to dumb liberalism.
So... it's like a parent who forbids his children from playing with 'dangerous' toys, except the parent happens to be a politician, whose word is law, quite literally... so they go all out.
But then the Jackass movies came out........
That's exactly why most 'ninja' weapons were banned because kids were playing with them.
@@robo5013 I'm not buying that bullshit for a second.
Related to the self harm part, i have and use a lot of knives, but the worst cut I ever got was from a potato slicer / wonder grater, the kind you could buy from teleshopping channels in the '90s
I owned multiple butterfly knives as a teen and never cut myself, even though I practiced with them all the time. I've cut myself on all maner of construction tools. A friend also stabbed me with a fountain pen in art class. I have the ink dot to this day.
@@barnettmcgowan8978 Mighty pen. 😉 Artists know. 😄
2:42 This reminds me of many years ago when we still had a computer store in town. The store has about half a dozen customers in it, most of them locals, and someone non-local was buying a pair of headphones and wanted to try them on. The store clerk looked around for a pair of scissors that wasn't there, then reached for their multi-tool (I know he usually had one and used it regularly) but it wasn't there. This was over the course of about five or so seconds and by the time he didn't find any scissors and realised he'd left his multi-tool somewhere else, all the other patrons, myself included, had pulled our knives and offered it to be used. The knives ranged from 3" folding pocket knives, through multi-tools that included a knife, to hunting knives. The non-local was a little surprised but not irked at almost half a dozen knives sprouting around them (all presented handle first) and his answer was around the lines of "I guess that's cultural thing here" and borrowed one of them to cut into the packaging.
The other thing to consider is that by making it illegal you are actually making them more attractive for younger people. I for one had all of these items as a teenager, specifically because they were considered dangerous. I of course didn't admit it at the time, I just thought they were cool, but the cool factor came from the fact that they were considered so dangerous as to be banned.
That is the sole reason i bought a switchblade and a "Novelty Brass Paperweight" (no, mom. They aren't brass knuckles. See, it says so right on the box!) As a teen.
They were cool and illicit.
@@DH-xw6jp Did you actually use it as a paperweight?
Your point on taboos is definitely true in my personal experience. My parents hate weapons of any kind and made it clear that they were frowned upon, so naturally I became fascinated with these strange objects and started a sword like object collection with a friend when I was about 8. Now I have antique ones. They still don't like it but I'm an adult now so, haha, I win.
@@StarshadowMelody i actually did, more as an excuse to display it out in the open then actual need of a paperweight though.
I sat it on top of a stack of video game maps and walk throughts/cheat codes that i had printed out at the library (back in the day before we had super computers in our pockets lol).
Well then you misunderstood as well because it's not banned because they're more dangerous. It's banned because people, on record, has done stupid things with them.
When I was a kid in West Germany in the early 90s, balisong/butterfly knifes were all the rage for boys in 7th grade. All the girls were playing around with snap-bracelets and the boys were twirling around balisong knifes. They were like Yo-Yos to us. The teachers would sometimes confiscate them when we got too annoying during a lesson, but then give them back to us afterwards.
It is crazy to me that they are forbidden now, even for adults.
Dude I'm American and love guns, but to me the crazy part is teachers just confiscating the knives and giving them back like it was chewing gum. Believe it or not, weapons in school is a major no-no here.like grounds for expulsion bad
@@blondequijote Yeah. Rural Germany back then was just a different world. Not much immigration compared to today, low crime rates and strong social cohesion. It was just unthinkable that we would actually do anything bad with those knives.
Call me a racist, but I think it is obvious that weapons aren't the problem, people are the problem and that means certain types of people.
Diversity is not a strength, it is a great weakness.
You could hand a loaded handgun to everybody, every man, woman and child in a place like Japan or Iceland and nothing bad would happen.
Can't say the same about "diverse" and "culturally enriched" places.
@TrangleC diversity is a tradeoff. America is a cultural powerhouse because of the diverse cultures that contributed something to it. The big cultural divide is between rural and city ppl though, same as anywhere else.
@@blondequijote Don't overestimate what diversity did for culture either. What made the USA a cultural powerhouse is Hollywood and Hollywood is totally controlled by a tiny, wealthy minority who made Hollywood big by making white movies about white people and whenever they "spiced it up" with other cultures, they were peddling silly cliches and caricatures of cultures and places they didn't know or care much about. Minstrel shows, black face, a few token Latinos and Asians. That is what made them big and successful, not actual diversity and other cultures.
Hollywood too is losing appeal, success and influence since it started going "diverse" and woke.
Also, USA is not even diverse. It might have been at some point but basically we are the fifty divided states, and it gets less diverse every day. Furthermore, these city/rural areas, as a result, are irreconcilable. I also do not think there is any way to reverse this. In a very real sense, the USA was never united and required a class to subjugate, and now that it can’t be a race it will be a class
The ONLY criteria for any of these bans is, does the weapon scare Karen? If so, it will be banned. But Karen was told if she took her FUDD husband's Buck Folder and 1911 away, he was going to leave her. So those are allowed.
The exception is weapons Karen doesn't remember exists in the modern day, like historical swords, or doesn't know they exist yet.
Aside from the knives (I’m genuinely as perplexed as you on that), I think that part of the reason for the discrepancy is that we see them as “foreign”, so people fear them more than they should and don’t have lots of families who have passed them down over the generations.
“We have to be seen to be DOING SOMETHING!!!1!” - legislators everywhere. 🙄
Statiscally the most used murder weapon is a "steak knife" (stat from a chief of police during an investigation class at junior college) so crimes dont really use those forbidden weapons much.
I think that's just a convenience thing. Everyone owns kitchen knives so that's naturally going to pop up more in statistics than crossbow enthusiasts going crazy.
@@methuselah8885 yes, it is like that, before the knife it was stick and before that stone.
@@methuselah8885 I imagine social credit score being too low could mean you are not allowed to prepare your own food.
I live in Ohio, and fortunately none of this is illegal here. There are no banned knives here at all, the only exception is that you can't carry a ballistic knife on you. I use my balasongs for work all the time because it's easier to switch between grips one handed while on a ladder. I also used to keep my nunchucks in my car as a defense weapon because of its potential nonlethality until I realized how absolutely impractical that is.
That demonstrates the utility of switchblades, gravity knives, and balasongs in real work situations where you only have one hand to open the knife. This case alone should be taken as proof that the statement of "no reasonable use other than injuring people" is false and should be taken as reason to repeal said law in various jurisdictions.
@@ckl9390 I've always thought that arguing about "how quickly a blade deploys" I the stupidest, most illogical knife argument there's is. You know what deploys faster than any switchblade, otf, balisong, gravity knife, spring open, etc? Literally any normal old fixed blade knife! How quickly a folding knife unfolds is irrelevant when I can just pull out a full knife, already open.
My favorite one of the dumb laws in my area is a ban on a tool that adds weight to the end of a rope to allow for better throwing (mainly to toss lines to other boats). Slings are still legal and far more practical a weapon compared to "a roughly foot-long rope loop with a weight"
Pure speculation, but I wonder if that law was specifically made to target motorcycle clubs. A lot of guys I used to know carried something along those lines to break windows and mirrors of motorists who didn't want to share the road.
Legality varies between countries, but gardening tools are mostly legal worldwide and they're effective enough for what you need.
Trust me. I've cut tree branches with a machete. If I ever need a short ranged self defense tool, the machete is my choice.
Kitchenware works too.
What’s funny is that nunchucks are a farming tool turned weapon. And now they are illegal. And the only reason they exist is because peasants in Japan couldn’t own weapons. Bahahah
@@theredknight9314 not really. Nunchucks are a modern invention just cause they look cool doing tricks. The farming tool your thinking of was the threshing flail which was a big staff instead of the puny things that are a disgrace to the much more combat effective stick.
@@micheal5973 there were small, one handed threshing flails too.
Billhook is my preference. Both the one handed version and the long pole version for pruning high up tree limbs. They used to be the weapon of choice for an entire *class* of professional soldiers in medieval England (billmen)
As a chef that's worked in many kitchens I always say I feel bad for someone who tries to rob the place or cause problems even if they have a gun 6 dudes with hot metal oils and big knives will win lol
The thing that still blows my mind is the legality of illegality of body armour in Ontario. Literally in the past month, there's been several stabbings or knife related muggings and "swarmings".
Yes, a plate of steel on my chest won't protect my head, but it will 100 percent stop a knife.
Batshit insane that we can't even carry armour.
Now I'm just always "weight training" with my plates in. Won't stop a bullet, but will stop a knife.
Ah shoot, is that why I couldn't order an Ops-core out of that province?
Wonder what the law on mail armor is? I seem to remember Metatron saying he wore a mail shirt under his clothes because stabbings were getting out of hand in Europe a while back.
@@logicplague2077 I don't know about some other countries, but in Poland, last I checked, body armor was legal so long as it was not 'military grade'. What a 'military grade' constitutes is basically a stamp on its registration into circulation, so you can legally posses a 'civilian' bulletproof vest that beats the bulletproof vest of the military, just because it wasn't certified as made for military or police.
You might be surprised by how bullet resistant the weight training plates can be.
Demolition Ranch did a video testing it out, if i remember correctly, it stopped all handgun rounds plus some lower caliber rifle rounds.
Body armour prohibition is a national law in Canada. I remember when this came out and HEMA practitioners, reenactors, and LARPers were really concerned. The courts made an exception for all of them.
Germany is fun as well in this regard:
- Two-Hand opening knives are fine
- One-Hand opening knives are fine to own, but not to carry, unless you have a good reason to (like you're going sailing for example or need it for you job, but if in doubt that's a court issue)
- Fixed knives are fine, as long as they're below 12cm
- A Leatherman with a one-hand open knife attached is fine to own and carry, as it is generally classified as a tool
- A machete of any length is fine to own and carry (even in pedestrian zones or whatever) since it is classified as a tool
- A sword of the same length is fine to own, but not carry
- A generic dagger is fine to own, but not carry (unless under 12cm)
- A bayonet of the same length as the previous dagger is illegal to own (without a permit), as it is classified as a weapon (of war)
To add on to the getting hurt part: getting hurt is part of life, it makes you tougher and oftentimes the actions leading up to it are fun and build great memories. If we avoided doing things out of fear getting hurt we would never accomplish anything. To a greater extent this applies to suffering as well.
"-why do you carry knife?!
-why don't you?"
damn, happens all the time
LOL, I often carry with me a swiss army knife. I remember when I first went to uni and I helped my roomates fix stuff: they gawked at me when I used it to cut some plastic ties.
It probably helped that I'm a pudgy nerd who might as well have written "doormat" on his forehead so they didn't think me the type to carry one.
@@det.bullock4461 similar thing here. I almost got expelled from middle school because a teacher found out I had a multitool in my backpack.
I carry knife but not for self defense because in knife fight the loser is dead and winner is bleeding out on the way to the hospital
@@realdragonNot in all cases but yeah there is an increase in danger when both people are armed with knives. However if you are armed with a weapon alone you're the one that is the danger.
British citizen carrying throwing stars: I just thought they were cool and I was intending to throw them into logs.
Judge: Clearly you were intending Ninja Naughtiness! Off to the Nick with you!
British citizen carrying a pack of darts.: I was on my way to be pub for a game.
Judge:Sorry to have bothered you, on you go Squire.....
Felt the: "Why are you carrying a knife?!" / "Why don't you? You clearly need one", in my soul.
I remember the very first post-apocalyptic movie I saw as a kid (starring the late Yul Brynner, the late Max Von Sydow, and the late William Smith as the leader if the bad guys)...in the beginning of the movie, Yul Brynner fought off with his knife a bunch of crazed street people who were weilding wrenches, hammers and hatchets
I remember the guys at my school all getting butterfly knives just *because* they were illegal. So the law is probably doing the exact thing it's trying to prevent
In NSW, the funny situation of butterfly knives being on the "prohibitted weapons" list, but fishing shops selling plastic handled "totally not" butterfly knives with zero repercussions.
@@dj1NM3 good. And so they shouldn't. Your issue shouldn't be the fact these shops are not getting repercussions for selling butterfly knives, but the fact they are prohibited at all in the first place. They are no less practical than any other blade and are not purely human stabbing machines. There is literally nothing you can do with a butterfly knife that you can't do with almost any other knife in existence, legal or illegal.
@@MDM1992 ...except throwing it away while trying to do a flashy move opening the damn thing.
In my teens, everyone wanted one of them because they were illegal. Top job, lawmakers, top job!
"No practical use, other than causing harm." That's a pretty good description of politicians. I don't see them banning themselves, though.
Oh my, has it been 10 years since I started watching ur vids? First video I saw from skall was the video where he was talking about balisong bans, and since then ive been as subscriber and watching daily videos from skall
Good video, I also liked that you distinguished at the end between laws that ban possession/ownership versus laws that ban carry
Carrying knives is an odd one here - it's contextual and very much what you can get away with. I grew up rural and pretty much every adult male - and a number of adult females - I knew had a sheath knife on their belt because you frequently needed to cut things and occasionally even quickly and humanely kill a stricken animal. The towns I visited serviced the rural areas and the farmers usually didn't bother taking off their knives if they were just popping into town to grab something. No one really batted an eyelid seeing people wandering around town with a culling knife on their belt. That's changed now - people have got less tolerant, more paranoid and "precious" and would probably think they were being invaded if a farmer came into town without taking their knife off.
We can carry knives here if we have a good reason to. What we can carry depends on the reason. On a farm or up in the bush, I could easily get away with a large sheath knife or machete worn visibly on the belt because there's generally plenty of reasons for such a large knife. In town, I can get away with folding pocket knives that aren't visible (and therefore not scaring the poor wittle townies) that I need to use to perform any of the routine tasks that require a knife blade or one the various screwdrivers, bottle openers, corkscrews, scissors, tooth picks, tweezers, awls, pliers etc found in the pocket knives and pocket tools.
And frankly, I don't see any practical difference between a switchblade or balisong and any other singleblade pocket knife except for convenience of opening - it's not like there aren't other one-hand-opening knives available that are perfectly legal. The hatred for switchblades and balisongs is nothing but negative associations and hysteria. "Gangs used/use them" - well, gangs used/use cars, motorcycles, clothes, food, tools and numerous other things. Banning things based on how a minority has used them is ridiculous - especially when it's that particular *use* that's illegal.
Many of these prohibitions are simply populist knee-jerk policies to please the masses after isolated incidents. In the UK we have that down to a fine art. Perhaps the most absurd is the banning of 'realistic' toy guns after an incident where a man was shot by police for not dropping a table leg when ordered to.
@@Pooknottin Yeah, we have and have had a number of populist knee-jerk policies - like the "Scary-Looking Gun" rules. First of those was the special licences to own Scary-Looking Guns as a reaction to a nutter who did a mass shooting and a Scary-Looking Gun was in his arsenal. And then there was the outright banning and extremely expensive buy-back of all Scary-Looking Guns as a reaction to the nutter that shot up the mosques in Christchurch.
@@wolf1066 Sorry to learn that. It's a shame you're plagued by the same kind of stupid as us.
Good point. We should immediately ban clothes for public safety.
@@MikeDCWeld You jest, but were it not for the underlying prudishness of our political culture in the UK, that might be considered a good idea.
It's kind of a forgotten footnote of history, but there was actually an international moral panic about martial arts movies and weapons in the 1980's. There were some media reports of kids injuring eachother trying to imitate stuff they'd seen in Kung Fu movies and it got blown out of proportion, resulting in many of these weird weapon bans. A 'steel manned' explanation might be that this was because of concerns about kids putting eachother's eyes out with them, rather than because they'd be used in crime, but there was definitely an element of anti-Asian racism too. Martial Arts movies were subject to increased censorship and more restricted age ratings as well. Perhaps the silliest part (and the reason I know about this) is that here in the UK, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles got renamed 'Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles', as the word 'ninja' was considered too controversial for kids' TV. They even dubbed 'hero' into the theme song.
Yeah, I remember that moral panic (and laughing at the fact that UK politicians forced TMNT to be censored) - it briefly overshadowed our collective fears of being wiped out in a nuclear holocaust.
The 80s, eh. (smh) At least we had a decent soundtrack for the decade.
I've been subscribed for over a year and I haven't had any of your videos pop up on my feed in like six months
Also there's something even more letal than shurikens that isn't banned, a weighty steel ornate ball, commonly referred as throwing pommels.
Great video as always. So when I was a teenager my dad gave me a balisong and it had been my primary carry knife for years. I never hurt myself with it even doing tricks because I was always cautious and I didn't keep the blade razor sharp. It was sharp enough to open boxes, cut weeds, and such. I found that opening and closing it one handed was actually extremely useful. One example would be I was helping my grandparent in trimming the ivy off the side of their house. I would use the knife to pry the vine off the brick. I was standing on a ladder leaning against the building. Since I only need one hand I could keep using my free hand to keep myself stable like holding the ladder or the building itself.
I would be more afraid of a rock thrown at me than a shuriken thrown at me
A rock is blunt, so it gets straight to the point. A shuriken is pointy, but it's bluntly unimpressive.
The argument I always heard, and mostly just took as fact despite never verifying it since it made sense to me, was that it was more a case of self-safety.
A Switchblade specifically was used when explaining it to me, since the blade shoots out point-first at the press of a button being spring-loaded, there was a chance of accidentally triggering it when it's say, in your pocket, stabbing yourself in the leg, where a bunch of major blood vessels are. A gravity knife could fall out of a pocket and open, leading to accidental injury, etc. A folding knife that won't snap open when dropped, but can be opened smoothly with one hand, doesn't carry that risk and so would be permitted.
Again, it made sense to me at the time (I was like, 12) and I just never thought to question it after that. Honestly it still makes sense to me, but I've gotten a much more cynical attitude towards that kinda prohibition ("well if they're that dumb then let em hurt themselves. Being stupid should hurt.")
14:40 "Nightmarish, dystopian, nanny-state" is one of your best lines ever!
Everything legal here in Austria.
Only exception make "Hidden" weapons that resembles a object other than the weapon it is and Knuckle Dusters. Besides these two exceptions everything is perfectly fine.
*cries in german Waffenrecht*
that and fully automatic firearms are also banned, but in general the austria weapons law is quite nice.
@@fixinggood4595 A curious exception: "Pump Guns" (Pump-action shotguns) are Category A (forbidden weapons / war materiel), but semi-auto shotguns can be had as Category B (self-loading firearms / handguns). Also: Lever-actions shotguns are Category C (Freely availably at 18+). Make sense of that.
@@marcusott5054 I think that exception is becauce of Pumpgun Ronnie, a bank robber from the 80s who robbed multiple banks with a Pumpgun and a Ronald Reagan Mask.
@@Donnerwamp felt that :c
The rumour about nunchucks prohibition in Poland dates to PRL (aka the times when Communism and Russia were "overseeing" Poland) era coupled with Bruce Lee mania. When some guy using a nunchaku beat up a group of militiamen so they added them to the list of weapons (alongside guns).
Goes to Russia with nunchucks
"Fear me, if you dare!"
I'm imagining Bruce standing in tge red square facing the whoe russian army, tanks and all, asking: .
Someone give that man an honorary 10th dan black belt
You will find that it was Polish communists overseeing Poland at that time..... They have a fascist problem now...... Facts. Cope.
@@arx3516 that's literally the plot of hong-kong 97 videogame.
I'm always happy to see you still own the foldable big "pocket" knife.
The really funny thing is that in Canada spring loaded knives are totally illegal, but spring assisted knives are perfectly fine, that means the only difference is whether the activation mechanism is directly connected to the blade or not.
Ahh yes, the old "give up real freedom for imaginary safety" shuffle!
The old give up real safety and security for an illusion that puts you in far more danger in the first place.
@@Gr3nadgr3gory I live in daily fear of Ninja Stars, but nanny state will make it go away if I'm a good boy.
These weapons are specifically banned when they become popular or are perceived to be popular with street gangs. It lets the police confiscate them when they do a random search (regardless of how legal or justified that search was) without having to go through the expense of having to take them to court. So the bans don't have to make sense because it's not about them being more dangerous so long as the mall ninjas think they're cool.
Such bans also provide an excuse to arrest the person in possession of the banned item.
When or where have nunchakus or throwing stars ever been popular in street gangs?
I mean of course you may get a higher then average number of crazy weapon collectors and people who are into violence when you raid a gang. And some of those might have (amongst other things... Maybe LOTS of other things!) some nunchakus lying around in their collection.
But I never heard of a gang, dominating the streets of anywhere, mostly by their use of throwing stars and ninja weapons!
Yeah, that's part of the problem... Random searches and looking for "excuses" to make arrests is something we'd be better off without.
@@alexanders.1359 My school (Junior high) had an issue with about 20 boys who were fighting with about 20 other boys from another school. They used homemade nunchucks, throwing stars, and crude knives. They kept jumping each other in the streets in non-fatal ambushes. They decided to do a rumble, and 5 kids ended up in hospital, 1 lost an eye and 1 was paralyzed from the waist down when he was knocked off a rail by a nunchuck into a dumpster and hit his back on the lip.
They watched ninja movies and 80's gang movies and thought it looked cool.
After this the police did a raid in our school and found the homemade weapons and arrested the kids for possession (as they couldn't easily get them for being in the fights without confessions or witness statements). I am sure these laws let them scare the kids into pointing fingers at the ringleaders and at who put the kids in the hospital.
@@alexanders.1359 Hollywood
Cracks me up that u can legally open carry a fucking sword, but a pair of stick attached with a cord/chain? TO THE GULAG WITH U
The other weird thing is that my carry gun license does not authorize me to carry knives. The state of Massachusetts has determined that I can carry a hand gun, but I can't be trusted with a knife or a stick.
I just keep remembering the movie "Demolition Man" more and more these days.
"Can I get some salt?"
"Uh, salt was deemed unhealthy, and therefore not good for you. Hence, illegal."
Some politicians feel they need to be able to point to a piece of legislation they proposed that "comes down hard on crime to protect our citizens", while not offending most of their constituents. Here in the US, it is easy to outlaw knives without the likelihood of a protest outside your office. Some politicians, on the other hand, can just lie about what they do everyday and their constituents will vote them back into office if told what they want to hear.
I am always amazed that knives and swords are not protected under the 2nd amendment. I mean it says right to bear arms. Arms does not mean guns, it means weapons.
So, every time a republican bill is out?
@@lloydlego6088 You make a good point; technically they are protected by the 2nd Amendment. Sadly, many politicians (and even citizens) clearly don't care. After all; they're also trying their darnedest to ban guns, too. And they've had considerable levels of success on that front, as well.
@@lloydlego6088 they are. as per letter of the law so are tanks and cannons. there just arent many people fighting for them sadly
Kershaw came out with a spring-loaded knife that is activated by simply pushing the thumb stud with minimal force. The switchblade was described in the law as a knife that comes out of the handle with the push of a button. The Kershaw knives were legal. A brilliant work around the law.
A ninja star is more of a tool to keep multiple attackers at distance by threat in order to escape than an assassins weapon.
All my ninja stars are dangerous looking with a black powder coating and so are deadly that if I can get close enough to you to I can scratch you repeatedly. And it will really hurt. LOL
Fully automatic BB guns used to be banned in MI, USA. Rifles shorter than 26" are still banned.
I long ago read an article about stupid gun laws. The one that I remember in particular, though I don't remember what state it was from, was one that prohibited the carrying of a 4ft. (122cm) long rifle concealed upon your person (not sure it was 4 ft. but it was something ridiculously big to be carrying it concealed).
Damn, no AT rifle out on the town today :(
"Rifles shorter than 26" are still banned."
Here in New Zealand, any firearm with an overall length of less than 762mm - 30" - is classified as a *pistol* and is therefore illegal unless you belong to a pistol shooting club and have a pistol endorsement on your firearms licence or you have a "collector" endorsement on your firearms licence (and said "pistol" is covered by your collection parameters).
So if you cut down any rifle or shotgun to less than 762mm, you're in possession of an illegal weapon and can be charged accordingly.
@@wolf1066 what if you had a pistol with a 30" barrel, would it then be classified as a rifle?
@@Master_Yoda1990 Presuming that the rest of the pistol (frame, grip etc) puts the overall length more than 30", then yes, it would be classified as a rifle.
Nooowwwww... if it was a semiautomatic firearm and *not* a .22lr or .22Mag rimfire with a magazine capacity of no more than 10 rounds, it would *still* be banned under the new regulations that came into effect due to Ardern's childish and expensive knee-jerk reaction in the wake of the Christchurch shootings.
I suspect they would also get shitty if it were a 6-shot double action revolver, to be honest in anything other than a .22 rimfire calibre.
But, yeah, a single shot or 10-shot .22lr semiautomatic pistol with a 30" barrel would be a rifle.
@@wolf1066 I'm sorry, that just sounds arbitrary and ridiculous. I mean not saying laws in US aren't, like the government saying a certain grip style or whether the stock and hand guard is wood or not changes the firearm.
Wtf. I’ve been looking at balisong videos today and Skallagrim makes one? Things work in weird ways haha
It's cause they can read our minds
I didn't look at balisongs, nunchucs or shurikens today. Yet here we are.
Hell yeah ! Love the judges take in this story as well !
Spot on. Thanks for this video.
My Friend from Denmark (ex-cop) pointed interesting law - You can only carry knife that can`t be single-handed opened , and only if You got reason to carry it. Ie : You go for longer walk and carry 2 apples that you want to peel before eating.
But then...
You land far from home, with knife... and no reason to carry it - as You eaten apples !
In France it is weirder it is completely illegal to carry a knife, but on the other end a jurisprudence was released stating that carrying a relar sized swiss knife or other common work knife like laguiole or opinel is not a crime because they are traditional French tools
@@benjaminparent4115 Its insane to create law banning knives.
Hurting people is illegal. I use knives everyday and i can cay it saved my life and i hurt noone my entire life.
I know how to hurt people with bare hands however - will i be banned from having my hands ?
could you imagine a mugger threatening you with nunchucks? I mean sure it probably won’t happen but still it’s an interesting thought experiment.
Then you pull out a stick!
Seems laughable. But if he's wearing a helmet and jockstrap... now I'm worried!
he would be able to take my money... as i am dying of laughter on the ground
The Optinel was cool....and useful.
Since a swiss pocketknive foldet accidently I like arrestable blades, forbidden now in Germany. I hate short blades, awful to use cutting a slice of bread. Not difficult to slice open people using a short bade, most of the time I prefer the former use.
Knives that open easy using one hand can sage your live when you have only one free to use, occures sometimes while climbing or diving etc..
A lot of these laws, at least in the US, were made to help in facilitating "routine stops" while profiling "suspicious types". Even if it's just a misdemeanor, the cop can say "Is that a balisong? Now, lookie here..."
You're basically describing Demolition Man at the end there re: the extreme nanny state that bans all potentially harmful things xD I only recently rewatched that movie and realised what a dystopia utopia can be. Also, hot damn that opinel (I think?) is a beast! I didn't know they made them that size, pocket machete indeed!
I remember my aunt and mother saying that would be the future one day, I told them they were crazy, that things would never get that bad.....oof.
It's no coincidence that Demolition Man was set in California.
This hits on so many levels. Here in New Zealand, I can legally purchase a Fairbairn-Sykes commando dagger or a Ka-Bar combat knife but I cannot legally purchase a "switchblade" or balisong - because the former two are "OK" while the latter two are "only for attacking people" - despite the fact that the latter two are basically no different from any pocket knife except you can open them conveniently with one hand.
I can purchase one-hand-opening lock-blade pocket knives that use a hole in the blade, like any of the Spyderco range - and do, because it's hard to open a conventional pocket knife using both hands when one of those hands is busy holding on to something. One-hand-opening knives are the most useful things around. I have a Leatherman pocket tool because it has a range of screwdrivers and it has pliers. I have a Victorinox Swiss Army knife because it has a corkscrew that the Leatherman does not have. When I need a knife, 9 times out of 10 I grab the Leatherman - *even though the blades on the Victorinox are superior* - because I can quickly and easily open either of the blades one-handed while I would have to use both hands and fiddle a bit to get a blade open on the Swiss Army knife.
The blades on the Leatherman might not be the greatest but they'll certainly open a box or cut packing straps and that's generally what I'm needing - and I don't want to have to muck about in order to do so.
As to carrying knives in public, you can do so if you can convince the police - and possibly a magistrate, if it goes that far - that you have a legitimate reason to do so.
So, in a land where you're allegedly "presumed innocent until proven guilty", you can be accused of carrying a knife for illegal purposes and you have to prove you're not.
I'm bloody certain I could find a better excuse to be carrying a balisong or automatic knife than to be carrying a Fairbairn-Sykes or a Ka-Bar... I've not encountered boxes so problematic that they require a dagger or a combat knife, but I've frequently encountered situations where it's not convenient - or even downright dangerous - to let go of something you're holding onto.
You know its funny enough that the argument it's only meant to kill people, any tanto, karambit, military standard/style knife was literally made for that purpose. FFS I wouldn't be surprise if you could carry a god damned bayonet around which I'm sure wasn't solely born out of the need to put a fucking spike on your rifle so you could go from knife and a gun, to FUCK YOU WITH A GOD DAMN BULLET SHOOTING SPEAR
GG logic GG
From an American perspective *every* box is problematic enough to require a Ka-Bar and/or Fairbairn/Sykes. But that's mostly because those are 2 of my favorite knife profiles, second only to a Bowie, and they're insanely fun to use even for mundane things.
@@cavalieroutdoors6036 I'm hard pressed to think of *any* knife that isn't fun to use, even for mundane things.
Here in New Zealand, you might have difficulty in convincing the judiciary that the boxes are sufficiently "problematic" to warrant a Ka-Bar, Fairbairn-Sykes or Bowie, though😆
Get caught with someone else's TV and stereo in the back of your car and *they* have to *prove* you're guilty of theft.
Get caught with even a Victorinox Spartan in your pocket and they get all _Code Napoleon_ on you and the onus is now on *you* to prove you're *_not_* a burglar, mugger or would-be murderer.
At one job I got nicknamed "MacGyver" because I always carried a pocket knife (Victorinox Classic SD) on me and I fixed more computers with that than I did with the large comprehensive toolkit they supplied me with... mostly because the SD was small and light and fit easily in my pocket while the toolkit was enormous and heavy and made going through doorways problematic.
Did you know that the screwdriver blade on the Victorinox SD fits perfectly across the Torx screws that Compaq got *obsessed* with using on all their computers? As well as being perfect for Pozi- and Philips screws and any small slotted screws, of course.
I could could open and disassemble literally *every* computer we had on site with that one screwdriver.
When I left that job, they gave me a Victorinox Climber as a farewell gift (which got stolen when my house was burgled).
At my current job my reputation is that I always have a Leatherman pocket tool on me and I'm the one to see if you want a desk assembled/disassembled or a whiteboard hung on the wall... (I'm no longer a computer repair technician - I'm not actually employed to maintain desks or hang up whiteboards, either, but I'm closer than the Maintenance team...)
You guys got really screwed over by that shooting a few years ago.
@@psycomutt If you're talking about the ones in Christchurch, there wasn't a person in the country that wasn't royally shafted by the government over that.
Not only did they penalise a bunch of legal firearms owners who had broken no laws and had previously had to jump through extra hoops and pay extra money, they made *every taxpayer in the country* foot the bill for their "buy up" scheme.
When they could have just used the existing, *perfectly adequate* laws, to really throw the book at the guy who did the shooting.
OMG, that lead into the ring was epic. "More likely to be banned the cooler it is. These rings would be totally illegal". I'm dying. 🤣
RUNKLE!! He's a great guy and seems to be a very knowledgeable lawyer.
GREAT channel
Who, as a kid in the 80s, who loved karate/ninja movies did not hit themselves in the head with a set of homemade nunchakus?
Michelangelo was a destructive influence on my first pair of glasses
Was a ninja a few times at Halloween.
Its funny that you can also get knives that open "automatically" when drawn that are perfectly legal, and are honestly faster than gravity/button knives. Any folding knife with a little hook on the outside edge of the folding mechanism can be opened by your pocket if you pull forward when you draw
You can make it on any knife with a hole or thumb stud too; remove the thumb stud and fasten a zip tie through the hole. Both my Spydercos and one Cold Steel (removed stud) has it and it works great.
Finally! I was waiting for This my Young apprentice!
Oh wait wrong franchise…
No seriously i rlly missed those videos. I remember the First ones of those you Made in a knife store if i remember correctly.
It took like 8 yers or something to get another episode of this. I found this channel years ago! On the topic of why is ... or ... banned.
I was in the construction trades.
I've definitely been hanging off a column/wall/beam and needed a knife. Kinda handy being able to use one hand to deploy it when you are 100+ foot in the air. Looked at different styles to find something simple and durable and actually liked the balisong. Unfortunately it's not entirely legal.
So instead I carry a small fixed blade which is legal
A balisong could make an awesome electricians knife as well. Flatten the tip a little and got a flat blade screwdriver tip..perfect for wall plates etc. And being able to put a larger wire in between the handle and blade with the grip just opened enough to fit the wire for stripping would also be handy and safer in many cases. You could probably have cat 5 notches etc. As well for stripping.
Knowing our very intelligent government here in the great white north, they'd see this as an argument to ban all the rest of the "weapons" you've brought up rather than rethink how silly it is that a spring assisted knife is legal but a spring loaded one isn't. Laws that revolve around knives and guns are in large part just optics and fear mongering. Good video Skal, I've had many discussions with my friends about this topic.
It's a wonderfully brilliant scam.
Make it as inconvenient as possible for citizens to defend themselves.
Create a positive feedback loop where out of fear they will vote for people who make it more inconvenient for them to defend themselves while not stopping the criminals (heck, you can even release violent criminals from prison if you come up with a good enough excuse).
This makes them more reliant on the government for everything and thus unable and unwilling to resist when you push for more authoritarianism.
Its all to just make the sheep feel better about it, so they think they're safe and that the govt. is doing something. Nothing less, nothing more. Also its obviously about control and as you say fearmongering but that goes without saying usually. Thats a norm these days.
According to Trudeau a 22lr is all you need.
Especially against those grizzlies and polar bears.
Alcohol on the other hand which causes more violennt crime and death than any other drug is legal in most countries. Not saying we should ban it but good lord are politicians priorities out of whack.
Especially here in the USA where gun crime makes up about 15% of all violent crime yet banning guns comes before banning knives and hammers. Again not saying those should be banned either just weird how politicians get to ignore facts and statistics and ban things based on 'well i think its scary'
Absolutely optics and fear mongering. In every single country. It's happening in Brazil now ffs
You mean sorta like how Gun Control advocates in the USA base their perception of which guns are the most dangerous off looks, rather than crime statistics?
I agree about the balisong being one of the most secure "lockups" (if you can call it that) of any folding knife design.
A good quality balisong with handles made of steel, brass or titanium, and nice thick pivot screws, has a strength approaching that of a fixed blade knife.
None of the destructive tests of folding knives I have seen failed at the pivot, it was always the lock. I'm sure it's possible for a pivot to fail, but the locking mechanism always seems to be the weaker point.
A balisong doesn't have a lock at all, it has two pivots, making it an incredibly strong design.
I'm lucky in that I live in a place where it is legal to carry a balisong, and I do so most of the time.
I don't do any of the mall ninja flips, only the basic open and close, and if there are non-knife people around, I will just unfold it with two hands without flipping it at all.
As I am from and live in Indiana, in the early 80s we could buy throwing stars at the county fair at any vendor selling knives and nunchucks and throwing stars as I often did. There was no law on age at the fair back then. I had seen later on that it was illegal to own after 1985 and no one would send them to you through the mail but in Ohio there are martial arts stores that sell them and I am not far from the Ohio border being in south east Indiana. I am going to research this further so I can see what has changed on that restrictive law. Thanks for the video....
Runkle Of The Bailey did a great video about folding knives and the legalities of them in Canada. Where you are correct about the laws about them, the authorities can still find ways to consider them illegal. You may not be able to swing it open, but if it's brought to court, they will find the strongest officer that they can to try. If that officer is able to to it, it can mean big trouble for you, regardless of your own ability. Runkle even offers case study on them holding the blade and using the weight of the handle to flip it open. Prosecutors have used that argument to try to incriminate people before and will likely try again. Canadian authorities hate pocket knives and are trying their best to have them all outlawed. Funny how a larger fixed blade in a sheath on your hip will likely get you in less trouble than an old folding knife in your pocket that may have a loose hinge.
I always find it amusing too, cant have knives you can open "too fast", but a fixed blade that is always open? oh well that's fine... So much logic...
@@legallyfree2955 Sadly, this is what happens when you let politicians make decisions that affect normal people.
@@wolf1066 Yeah, another good one that makes me smile, going fishing, 3" folding knife, fine, 3.5" folding locking knife, deadly weapon you psycho, 8" fish filleting knife, perfectly fine.
@@legallyfree2955 Willing to bet that filleting knife is sharper than any of my pocket knives, too.
@@wolf1066 Pretty hard to fillet a fish with a blunt knife.
You have a point about things that are easy to make. Even I made a pair of homemade nunchucks as a kid out of parts from a thrown-away tent (the rods being sections of its support poles) that I still own and still hurts like heck.
I made my first pair from wooden handles off a jump rope, and just tied them together, probably with a short section from the jump rope itself. I've even cut soup can lids into the shape of shuriken, and they would stick into drywall...barely. I had a spear I made from aluminum pipe I found in the woods. I had a tiny bow I made from small stick and rubber bands that I used to shoot pencils with at school. Being a kid is awesome. In high school I sandwiched razor blades between my ID badges that were hung on a lanyard around my neck, I even added washers to it for extra weight for swinging around.
Something to consider for a future video would be Worf's new weapon in Picard season 3, the Kur'leth. It more or less looks like the Mek'leth but with a much longer blade.
Switchblades were made legal in my state in 2017. I carry one on a daily basis and it's quite handy as a work knife (Taiwanese "Lightning" OTF, BTW).
A mild steel piece with a tip cut into an end is what a lot of people tend to use as concealed weapons here because it is truthly untraceable and socially invisible
My balisong is the best EDC knife I've ever had, even outside of the cool tricks, it's the quickest and safest knife I own. Thanks for making this vid!
If a Balisong is the safest knife you own, I have to wonder what other knives you own? I've never had any of my standard folders or slip joint knives carve my hand up quite like my Bali.
@Nathan D Kreosote if you just do a quick open wrist flick there is like no danger at all. get my knife open, use it, and close the knife in one motion and it's gone. They're only dangerous when you play with them lol
@@kevingarlick4617 If you're not playing with them though then what's the point? Pretty sure the main point of most discussions about Bali's being illegal is that they really aren't very practical and are used more as novelties than tools. If you're just gonna do a simple open to cut a box or something then there are much better options.
@Nathan D Kreosote maybe cheap mall ninja balis but my kershaw is solid. The idea that they are impractical and just a novelty is just propaganda
@Nathan D Kreosote here this might make it make more sense. Here's how to open a Bali when you're just trying to work and not be flashy or dangerous
ruclips.net/user/shortszbIWa7VvifY?feature=share
Cats can be more dangerous than a nunchucks and they are not illegal.
@3:33 i also recently purchased the boker magnum folding kukri, its fun
Actually balisongs are no longer banned in Illinois we just have to have a firearms license to own them along with switch blades. Throwing stars are still illegal tho.
So actually, a REAL reason these laws are in place (at least the one I'm most distinctly aware of) is that if a cop is trying to come up with a reason to search you, and they don't have shit, but they still REALLY wanna search you, they can ask, "Do you have any illegal weapons on you?" and irrespective of how you respond, they can write in their report, "suspect was uncooperative, I proceeded to perform a search" as they rifle through your pockets, checking for anything good to arrest you for. I'm an American, I don't know if this sort of thing is common in Canada, but this is definitely the kind of thing that they use down here, because they have quotas for how many people they need to issue citations to and arrest in a given month.
I see no other practical reason for these silly ass laws.
I think a lot of these laws are just so they can pad the charge sheet - why charge you with just one crime when they can add 3 more on account of what you had on your person at the time?
Assault? meh. Assault *_and_* possession of an illegal weapon? Gettin' better, is there _anything else_ we can charge 'em with?
Great video. Do you do in person classes?
runkle is awesome channel!
I found even carrying a simple pocket knife is useful as a handy tool in certain situations.
For sure. A knife is such an essential tool, with many everyday uses.
I agree with everything in this video... and also, I am having a massive heart attack moment seeing my videos here. Huge fan, so I'm just kind of wowed.
great video
I have a knife with a sort of “guard” on the blade (the CRKT M16-14SFG) that can catch against the corner of your pocket so that it opens as you draw. Arguably a faster open than an automatic knife, yet it’s a perfectly legal folder.
Another point for nunchucks: they are a short flail, a common farm tool you might have done at your (great) grandparents farm.
Now maybe less common.
I'd argue the most dangerous items we have in our homes are probably the perfectly legal cutlery when used improperly and the negligent cleaning in which one combines certain cleaning supplies into a lethal gas.
You'd be amazed at the things you can find in everyday household items..
@@logicplague2077 I mean the gun used to kill Shinzo Abe was basically with your average tool store stuffs demonstrates that.
@@tristantully1592 That, and so many other possibilities.
Wasn't that an episode of seinfeld? the one where he accidentally stabbed his mother with a kitchen knife.
@@b.s.864 Sounds dark for an episode of Seinfeld lol.
My brother was into Tae Kwon Do back in the 80s and had ninja stars, nunchucks, and a couple butterfly knifes. They're safely stored in my attic and I keep one of those old knives nearby for opening mail and boxes, it's about as dull as a letter opener at this point. Also... your "gang" pic on the right at 4:04 is from the dance movie Breakin', one of the least violent movies ever made. 😅
What a throwback, guess I've been here a long time