I'm truly impressed by your receptiveness to viewer feedback. Personally, I'm a fan of your videos, although I find the music a bit overwhelming at times-it's just a matter of personal taste. When I noticed someone expressing strong reactions to the music, I couldn't help but smile and nod in agreement, yet I chose not to comment to avoid detracting from the excellence of your restoration videos. What I really want to say is, thank you. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and journey with us so openly, and for considering those of us with heightened audio sensitivity. While we may be a minority, the adjustments you've made clearly demonstrate your dedication and care.
My main goal is to entertain and have people enjoy what I enjoy as well. I had no negative feedback on the music until after finishing all 3 videos so it was too late…but…I could go back and try to please both crowds…so I did :) Hopefully it doesn’t muddy the waters too much having two versions. Thank you for the kind words!
@@tcurtis49I agree that the music is a bit loud and overwhelming but very light soft music in the back round can be ok maybe to please both sides just do very low soft music in the background as the music is still a bit loud even in this video although it didn’t bother me !
I watched through the tron video in full, but as with other commenters I was definitely struggling with the music's volume being louder than the rest of it. I really REALLY appreciate this, and am so very happy that you put the effort in to cater to us like this! Keep up the great work, I love your videos!
Great restoration video. Tried watching the other version and the music was killing me. MUCH better this time, and thank you for the alternative version.
I'm amazed. Not just because the restoration work and the video editing/on-screen commentary is all so comprehensive, but also because I too was thinking some of the music was a bit overwhelming in the original. I was thinking "boy wouldnt it be great if RUclips somehow had a feature to remove music from video playback..." Then I found out this version exists. I feel better knowing I wasnt the only one feeling overwhelmed by some (not all!) of the music. Thanks for making this version
Bot. This video brought back a flood of memories for This old gamer. Thank- you for restoring an arcade masterpiece! I loved T4on and actually got a million on it in my prime.
Yep, I wish I could go back in time and find the happy medium but I'm glad to accommodate various audio comfort levels. I have 3 projects going at once (well, one is basically done) so at least 3 long-ish videos to come this year. Thanks!
I love your videos, can't stop watching them and I love the choice of music you have. It's always cool knowing you're just a state over, makes it feel like maybe I could get cool arcade cabinet pick-ups at some point!
Hey Tod I’m a new subscriber keep it up u make me feel like a kid again seeing all the nostalgia u got I wish I could run amok for a day in your homemade arcade it would be like a kid in a candy store it’s also a pleasure to watch ur talent in action fixing these games I really hope to watch more videos of yours for years to come please keep it up and flood this channel with videos for us all to enjoy thank you and god bless 🙏🏽
Thanks! I feel like a kid again every time I walk into the arcade. I am definitely working on new projects and hopefully I can keep those memories going!
I like it with the heavier music but definitely want to have an option for those who don’t. Hopefully on the next video I’ll find a pleasing balance for everyone :)
The original music seemed quite appropriate for a video game restoration video! With all the great information, I would say I'm surprised that anyone complained.. but that's the Internet for you.
hI Todn i'm fron France and i discovered your channel and your work today : very impressive !! Love retrogaming in france too, especially arcade game's :) I remember i playing Tron on arcade but not this version, continue to dream us
LOL I just watched the entire original video! Great restoration. Love the long format and level of detail. Cant wait to check out more of your projects and see what's next! Need a bigger room though !
Please continue with the detailed explanatory documentary style. I know it must be hard to grow a channel if one project takes up multiple months and you can't pump out content every 2 weeks but the process of auction, pick up and restore is so well presented. It is my favorite arcade repair channel. I personally liked the original music although it could have maybe used some variety in tracks throughout.
Thanks! And I am definitely going to keep making the same style videos-I’m early on with a couple right now, The most mysterious thing is why RUclips will suddenly ramp my views way up for a week and then drop it back off. And then back up again…No worries overall though as I’m happy to keep doing what I’m doing as long as people enjoy it :)
I absolutely enjoyed every minute of your restoration video. You are an absolute natural with your hands in woodwork, electronics etc. Thank you with your tips and I learnt a lot about how to discharge the monitor load and recapping the capacitors. My all time arcade cabinet game from the early 80s is the Williams Defender. Could you make this your next project please?
I do all the editing. And it does take some time for each one. Good news is I’m close to finishing up editing on another project but have some loose ends to wrap up, and about to start editing another epic arcade restoration that is also almost complete. So at least 2 videos in the mix before long. Then a third project currently underway as well as a bonus fourth. So stay tuned :) And thanks!
Man I hope you are working on a new video lol. Good job with the editing. For something detailed the time flew watching it and I am not an avid arcade person. Good job
I just found your amazing channel trough the Tron cabinet. Really impressed with your work and engineering skills. When i finished building my house, i would love to have a small corner like your game room. Thanks for sharing.
Great job. It's amazing how much hardware it used to take in 1982 to do what an FPGA and an LCD display can do now! If you look at 1:09:12 you can see your video glitch is outside of the wide white line on the picture. I can't see any reason why the programmer would not draw that white line right to the edge of the available drawing area, so I think the glitch has nothing to do with your video RAM. It looks like the timing of the vertical blanking is not quite right.
I found out later it’s known and it is indeed the programmers using a little bit of video RAM where they thought it wouldn’t be visible. Or something to that effect. Either way, it’s supposed to be trimmed out by the monitor controls.
It’s one of those things-I think the music selection adds a lot to the overall atmosphere of the work being done but for others it’s just in the way. I will hopefully find the right balance as I keep working on these. Thanks!
Estoy impresionado por el nivel de detalle que le pusiste a la restauracion. Sobre todo lanparte de la madera del gabinete que estaba realmente en mal estado, no le tenia fe a tu modo de repararlo pero realmente funciono! Te ganaste un seguidor desde España 🇪🇸. Like y comentario😊. Ahora quiero ver como queda ese Pole Position! De niño me encantaba jugarlo en un gabinete con formula de F1.
Pretty much done with one project that is more video game related and the video is in late-stage editing, well over the hump on a major arcade restoration, and early in on a third project that is currently torn apart and scattered across my garage. I have to wrap up everything before it gets cold and I need the garage for my truck…so I’ve got my hands full :)
Have you ever done a CRT to LCD conversion to any of your games? The reason I ask is because if you had a picture tube fail or wear out. I would hate to see that render an awesome arcade machine unplayable.
I have an LCD monitor I use sometimes in testing but try to keep the CRT’s running. For now I can steal parts from discarded televisions (and that’s what others do) but at some point there may be no choice. I like the way images look on CRTs much better, personally.
Battlezone is the first arcade game I can remember playing as a kid. It was at our local hardware store and I would play it as my dad shopped. I was too short and had to stand on a wooden box to play. Also I can just remember playing Moon Patrol, I would have been about 5 years old.
Battlezone is one of the first games I remember playing. Along with Lunar Lander and Night Driver. Even as primitive as they were they were still really fun!
I can't believe what parts sell for. 179 for a blacklight fixture? I shouldv'e kept every cabinet I ever parted out in the early to mid 90s. I will say, your restoration and attention to detail is impressive.
Great job Tod. I especially like how you keep a cost calculator ongoing throughout the restore. I can't figure out why other collectors intentionally guard this information like it's the secret coca cola recipe or something?...
I know what you mean. Quite often people remove the sale price from threads on the forums after things sell and it aggravates everyone. My running total is a bit of an undercount since I sometimes don’t factor in tax and shipping, or the gas involved in going to get it, or little things along the way. And it’s always more than I expected at the end looking back. But it does give an idea of where the money goes when working on games like this. Thanks!
Looks amazing. Is the brief bit of static/graphical garbage when the attract mode changes scenes, normal? I'm thinking maybe it's linked to the other graphical issue that you adjusted to be just out of view. But then again I've not played on a real Tron in quite a few years, so I may have just forgotten that it's a normal part of the game (and don't trust emulation to tell me if it's supposed or not supposed to happen, although it doesn't seem to happen in MAME nor the Xbox Live Arcade release for the Xbox 360).
@ 01:43:35 - May not be a monitor issue, as the issue was not showing up when you had the TPG plugged in earlier in this video. It did show up when you had the Tron boards connected!
Cabinet: $225 Parts: $500 Supplies: $750 Labor: $117,422 Totally worth it. Next time you make it up here Chicago-way, check out Galloping Ghost in Brookfield. I’m dangerously 20 minutes from it.
@@tcurtis49it’s gotten larger over the years, they moved the pinball games to a different building, which is both crappy and nice. I’m not much of a pinball player so it’s fine with me, I have friends that ick at it. The one thing I’ve noticed over the past decade or so though is that the older games seem to be disappearing, say anything before the late 80’s. You used to see early 80’s stuff more, I’m guessing they’re just too difficult to maintain now, I do wonder where they ended up. An original Pac-Man or Asteroids is difficult to find there now. That being said, it’s amazing, almost too much, if I had to guess there’s probably 5000 arcade games in their main building. It’s $20 for the whole day, free play, come and go as you want. There’s an excellent little brewery right down the street, in walking distance, and a couple good little taquerias close by. I took my whole team there back in May for an outing, a dozen of us, most of them are in their mid twenties (half my age) so it was sort of culture shock for them. But, they did get to get the “real” arcade experience like we did as kids. One thing I consistently hear from people of that age group say, “boy, games were a lot harder back then”.
Do you remember the game Afterburner? I have the stand up version. It is a bit rough, and doesn’t fully work. Everything works accept for the stick. I not sure the issue. Maybe someday you can do a video on Afterburner or maybe even a Dragon’s Lair resto. Love your channel!! Keep the content coming.
I fixed up an Afterburner several years back that I got at a garage sale. Was a cool game but we didn’t play it much and I ended up selling it. Another one may cross my path again someday… I’m on the lookout for Dragon’s Lair but have a couple of fun projects going right now… more content to come :)
Hey, love the videos. I have a baby pac and I need to clean the playfield. Of course, everyone has their own opinion on how this should be done. People recommend Novus 1 and 2, and other people recommend nahptha. Some people recommend wax, some say Novus two is wax.... Anyways, this is my first machine and I don't wanna mess it up. I've seen the care you put into your restorations so I trust your opinion on this. What's your process?
Keep in mind I balanced the music on my computer to where it seemed perfect, but it wasn’t until it had been up for quite a while that I saw complaints and tried it on other devices. Sometimes it’s great and sometimes it’s way too loud, depending on device. I’ll try to find the sweet spot on future videos :)
@@tcurtis49 yep... the tech today is great, but still not perfect... Thanks for doing this upload, I enjoyed it.. Tron was one of my favorites back in the day... use to go as a teenager to StarBase 1... many O' quarters loss to these things... :)
Thank you for this version, this is more watchable for me. Had it been more 80s era techno music I could have probably tolerated it but the dubstep stuff was abit too much for my taste.
I admire your passion and electronics skills, but the wood working & painting side of things needs more effort to class it as restored for durability purposes. But keep going, and you will pick up new techniques along the way to make things easier and give a better and more solid finish. 😉👍
There’s a distinction beyond “restored” to like new and “restored” to fixed. I don’t care much for games that look brand new. As far as the other sections, what am I sacrificing as far as durability with wood working and painting? I’ve been doing this for 30 or so years now and have never had an issue with any previous repair deteriorating.
@tcurtis49 Hey, I understand that. But there is also a distinction between restored and patched up. 😉 At some point the wood loses it durability. I was simply point out that there are other ways to restore its strength when it gets to the point that the bottom of this was. A simple cutting off and replacement of the botton of the sides with a biscuit joiner and glue then fill the join would have looked great and reduced the chance of further flaking/wood deteriorration in the future. Also, undercoat is very important. We all hate having to do it, but it really does help as it's job is to soak into the surface of the wood and give the paint a good suface to cling too. Was just trying to help. No need to get defensive. 👍
@tcurtis49 PS. Some oil based polyurethane on the bottom quarter of the inside of the cabinet and exposed wood on the underside will help to prevent scuffing and stop the bottom of the unit from wicking up any water in future should it happen to be unfortunate enough to come in contact with any. But not on any visible areas though, that stuff yellows over time. But it's brilliant stuff and gives an extra layer of protection after all your hard work. All the best. 😊👍
@mrlox9576 Good point on the biscuit corners-for sure. And that’s something I will likely show on other projects. Keep in mind these videos are going to an extreme to see what’s possible rather than what’s most practical and if I were a professional restorer I would have cut all new pieces for sure and probably not even bothered with chopping it down. Interestingly, as far as primer, I have never had paint come off. Ever. Except when I’ve primed. So I’m cautious with it. Sometimes it’s necessary just to have an even surface and sometimes the final coats (oil-based) don’t adhere as well to it as they would to the existing previously primed and now stripped wood. But I do typically use it with new wood. I didn’t on the bottom of the Tron because that’s a surface that’s usually not painted at all and I just wanted to hide the seams on the sides with a thin layer to make it more attractive. And I definitely do better with no primer on Bondo, but maybe I’ve just had bad luck. I primed a ton on the Red Tent video, which was mostly metal. No argument there. And my next project is back to bare wood so it will definitely get primed. Often in the restoration world there is a wide divide of opinions on what is the “right” way to fix something so I don’t know if feedback is a difference of opinion or a true error. And I definitely don’t want to be making true errors. But since I’m working on my own projects I have to live with the results, and I do get to see over time what works well and what doesn’t. But I’ll keep adjusting and watching out for helpful advice. Thanks!
@@tcurtis49 hey, that's interesting on the primer as my experience is the opposite. Very strange. Nah cutting completely new sides and prepping them is too much effort. Lol As for the 'right way', forget that concept. I wasn't trying to criticise. Do whatever works for you, but try to stay open to suggestions, sometimes there can be a new easier/better way to do certain things that someone has figured out, or new products that work better. But keeping a few rolls of generic colored decals (black, white, etc) that ypu can cut to size/shape can be a real life saver when just wanting to cover small areas without too much work (or to just fix part of a larger decal). Thanks for taking the time to reply Tod, Am now subscribed. 😊👍
The music is still terrible but removing most of it like you apparently did makes it watchable. Thanks for that. Maybe you don’t have a subwoofer. If you don’t that’s part of the problem with the music. It’s fine for little bits but constant throbbing gets old.
I guess I’m going to watch it again. Not because of the music change, but because it’s such a great video and restoration.
That’s funny :) I’m glad, though!
Another Indepth restoration 10/10, have to be happy with the finished result.
Thanks! Yes, it looks fantastic in the arcade :)
I'm truly impressed by your receptiveness to viewer feedback. Personally, I'm a fan of your videos, although I find the music a bit overwhelming at times-it's just a matter of personal taste. When I noticed someone expressing strong reactions to the music, I couldn't help but smile and nod in agreement, yet I chose not to comment to avoid detracting from the excellence of your restoration videos. What I really want to say is, thank you. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and journey with us so openly, and for considering those of us with heightened audio sensitivity. While we may be a minority, the adjustments you've made clearly demonstrate your dedication and care.
My main goal is to entertain and have people enjoy what I enjoy as well. I had no negative feedback on the music until after finishing all 3 videos so it was too late…but…I could go back and try to please both crowds…so I did :) Hopefully it doesn’t muddy the waters too much having two versions. Thank you for the kind words!
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@@tcurtis49I agree that the music is a bit loud and overwhelming but very light soft music in the back round can be ok maybe to please both sides just do very low soft music in the background as the music is still a bit loud even in this video although it didn’t bother me !
Hey, really appreciate you're doing this again, with the Music toned down! Very cool of you!!!
I aim to please :)
I watched through the tron video in full, but as with other commenters I was definitely struggling with the music's volume being louder than the rest of it. I really REALLY appreciate this, and am so very happy that you put the effort in to cater to us like this! Keep up the great work, I love your videos!
Great restoration video. Tried watching the other version and the music was killing me. MUCH better this time, and thank you for the alternative version.
No problem-the original sounds great on my computer but apparently terrible on some devices and I certainly want everyone to enjoy it. Lesson learned!
I'm amazed. Not just because the restoration work and the video editing/on-screen commentary is all so comprehensive, but also because I too was thinking some of the music was a bit overwhelming in the original. I was thinking "boy wouldnt it be great if RUclips somehow had a feature to remove music from video playback..." Then I found out this version exists. I feel better knowing I wasnt the only one feeling overwhelmed by some (not all!) of the music. Thanks for making this version
I certainly didn’t want to drive people away so it was good to create an alternate version. Glad you liked it!
“We have a user!” Tron, what a cool movie!!
Indeed!
Bot. This video brought back a flood of memories for This old gamer. Thank- you for restoring an arcade masterpiece! I loved T4on and actually got a million on it in my prime.
Glad it rekindled fond memories. Thanks!
Absolutely love the passion you bring to the hobby. Great job! It looks fantastic!
Thanks!
Just rewatched this edit better than the original video you've done great work can't wait to see what's next ❤❤❤
Yep, I wish I could go back in time and find the happy medium but I'm glad to accommodate various audio comfort levels. I have 3 projects going at once (well, one is basically done) so at least 3 long-ish videos to come this year. Thanks!
I love your videos, can't stop watching them and I love the choice of music you have. It's always cool knowing you're just a state over, makes it feel like maybe I could get cool arcade cabinet pick-ups at some point!
Thanks! I hope you do!
Hey Tod I’m a new subscriber keep it up u make me feel like a kid again seeing all the nostalgia u got I wish I could run amok for a day in your homemade arcade it would be like a kid in a candy store it’s also a pleasure to watch ur talent in action fixing these games I really hope to watch more videos of yours for years to come please keep it up and flood this channel with videos for us all to enjoy thank you and god bless 🙏🏽
Thanks! I feel like a kid again every time I walk into the arcade. I am definitely working on new projects and hopefully I can keep those memories going!
Odd, while watching this the first time, I specifically mentioned to my wife, “I like his music selection”. Good video either way!
I like it with the heavier music but definitely want to have an option for those who don’t. Hopefully on the next video I’ll find a pleasing balance for everyone :)
The original music seemed quite appropriate for a video game restoration video! With all the great information, I would say I'm surprised that anyone complained.. but that's the Internet for you.
What an amazing job you did. Thanks for sharing.
Great work! The movies, Tron and Tron Legacy, are def some of my favorites
That was a lot of work but you saved an original which makes it totally worth it.
Just subbed...I hope their are more vids on the way fella, I really like your stuff! 👍🙏
Plenty of action happening now (even today) and getting very close to publishing more content. I have 4 projects going at once…
hI Todn i'm fron France and i discovered your channel and your work today : very impressive !! Love retrogaming in france too, especially arcade game's :) I remember i playing Tron on arcade but not this version, continue to dream us
That’s great! Thanks and thanks for watching from way over in France :)
Thank you! So happy I can watch this now. The previous version was headache inducing.
LOL I just watched the entire original video! Great restoration. Love the long format and level of detail. Cant wait to check out more of your projects and see what's next! Need a bigger room though !
Thanks! And I definitely need more room!
Sure i will watch it again, this was an amazing video.
What an amazing job you have done,can’t wait to see the next project restore!
Working on some new projects right now :)
Please continue with the detailed explanatory documentary style. I know it must be hard to grow a channel if one project takes up multiple months and you can't pump out content every 2 weeks but the process of auction, pick up and restore is so well presented. It is my favorite arcade repair channel. I personally liked the original music although it could have maybe used some variety in tracks throughout.
Thanks! And I am definitely going to keep making the same style videos-I’m early on with a couple right now, The most mysterious thing is why RUclips will suddenly ramp my views way up for a week and then drop it back off. And then back up again…No worries overall though as I’m happy to keep doing what I’m doing as long as people enjoy it :)
Man, I didnt realize how many people didnt like the music. I liked it personally
I absolutely enjoyed every minute of your restoration video. You are an absolute natural with your hands in woodwork, electronics etc. Thank you with your tips and I learnt a lot about how to discharge the monitor load and recapping the capacitors. My all time arcade cabinet game from the early 80s is the Williams Defender. Could you make this your next project please?
lol @ Indiana Banana's I thought the Paw-paw was the Indiana Banana. ;)
We have Paw Paws as well but they are way overrated as far as being edible!
@@tcurtis49 😄😄😄
Fantastic resto
What a master class of restoration. Your diligence and attention to detail is amazing. Well done
Thanks!
What a wonderful journey! I love Arcades and restoration videos and this one was great! Thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
need another video soon please
Oh…I’m getting really close to wrapping some up…hopefully not too much longer for new videos :)
For a Hobby, i think you do excellent Work. Its a Joy watching and also Learning stuff even i will never do the same:) Just awesome. Thanks🖖
Thank you! Glad you liked it.
Whoever edits your videos is awesome, hoping for more videos soon
I do all the editing. And it does take some time for each one. Good news is I’m close to finishing up editing on another project but have some loose ends to wrap up, and about to start editing another epic arcade restoration that is also almost complete. So at least 2 videos in the mix before long. Then a third project currently underway as well as a bonus fourth. So stay tuned :) And thanks!
I have a pack man arcade game very rough but worked when I got it, I think you need it!..or it needs you!!
I’ve already rehabbed a PacMan. One of the all-time greats!
Incredible!
Great job!!!! Love watching your videos!!!
Thanks!
Fantastic achievement. My all time dream machine, and Satans Hollow to boot. Another super challenging fantastic gam. Congrats.
Thanks! It’s an awesome one, for sure!
Man I hope you are working on a new video lol. Good job with the editing. For something detailed the time flew watching it and I am not an avid arcade person. Good job
I just posted a long Sega Carnival restoration video and am now at work on my Qix. Thanks!
awesome video
What a great video! Much thanks and respect for rescuing this classic piece!
Thanks!
I just found your amazing channel trough the Tron cabinet. Really impressed with your work and engineering skills. When i finished building my house, i would love to have a small corner like your game room.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks! I hope you can find some cool games for your mini-arcade :)
@@tcurtis49 thank you sir, yes i hope so to. Will see what the budget and market will be in the Netherlands
Great work 🫡
Your disclaimer's wrong. You, sir, are a professional. Thank you so much for bringing us along on your journey!
Great job. It's amazing how much hardware it used to take in 1982 to do what an FPGA and an LCD display can do now! If you look at 1:09:12 you can see your video glitch is outside of the wide white line on the picture. I can't see any reason why the programmer would not draw that white line right to the edge of the available drawing area, so I think the glitch has nothing to do with your video RAM. It looks like the timing of the vertical blanking is not quite right.
I found out later it’s known and it is indeed the programmers using a little bit of video RAM where they thought it wouldn’t be visible. Or something to that effect. Either way, it’s supposed to be trimmed out by the monitor controls.
great video!..amazing work
Thanks!
I haven't finished watching the last version of this yet!
Hurry! :)
Amazing job. I saw your other videos too... it's really impressive, professional work.
I thought the original music was quite appropriate for a video game restoration video! Awesome job!
It’s one of those things-I think the music selection adds a lot to the overall atmosphere of the work being done but for others it’s just in the way. I will hopefully find the right balance as I keep working on these. Thanks!
@@tcurtis49 Thank you for the sharing the experience!
Subscribed! I hope this channel grows and grows. :D
Thanks! I have more content coming very soon and enjoy doing this :)
Not bad for a dentist :-). Seriously, I enjoy our craftsmanship as much as your fanaticism for the hobby. Keep it up.
Haha. Thanks!
Question: Where do you go to get arcade style type carpet?
You can order it online. If you look up cosmic carpet or bowling carpet you’ll get lots of options :)
Estoy impresionado por el nivel de detalle que le pusiste a la restauracion. Sobre todo lanparte de la madera del gabinete que estaba realmente en mal estado, no le tenia fe a tu modo de repararlo pero realmente funciono!
Te ganaste un seguidor desde España 🇪🇸.
Like y comentario😊.
Ahora quiero ver como queda ese Pole Position! De niño me encantaba jugarlo en un gabinete con formula de F1.
Gracias and hola!
Any new projects coming up?
Pretty much done with one project that is more video game related and the video is in late-stage editing, well over the hump on a major arcade restoration, and early in on a third project that is currently torn apart and scattered across my garage. I have to wrap up everything before it gets cold and I need the garage for my truck…so I’ve got my hands full :)
Have you ever done a CRT to LCD conversion to any of your games? The reason I ask is because if you had a picture tube fail or wear out. I would hate to see that render an awesome arcade machine unplayable.
I have an LCD monitor I use sometimes in testing but try to keep the CRT’s running. For now I can steal parts from discarded televisions (and that’s what others do) but at some point there may be no choice. I like the way images look on CRTs much better, personally.
Battlezone is the first arcade game I can remember playing as a kid. It was at our local hardware store and I would play it as my dad shopped. I was too short and had to stand on a wooden box to play. Also I can just remember playing Moon Patrol, I would have been about 5 years old.
Battlezone is one of the first games I remember playing. Along with Lunar Lander and Night Driver. Even as primitive as they were they were still really fun!
lovely work man.. i want Spy Hunter, Heavy Barrel And Karate Champ cabinets.
Spy Hunter is on my list-I’m sure I’ll come across one eventually.
The buttons should glow or light up. Awesome work
Some people do add that mod but it might be just a bit too much for me, taste-wise :)
I can't believe what parts sell for. 179 for a blacklight fixture? I shouldv'e kept every cabinet I ever parted out in the early to mid 90s. I will say, your restoration and attention to detail is impressive.
Great job Tod. I especially like how you keep a cost calculator ongoing throughout the restore. I can't figure out why other collectors intentionally guard this information like it's the secret coca cola recipe or something?...
I know what you mean. Quite often people remove the sale price from threads on the forums after things sell and it aggravates everyone. My running total is a bit of an undercount since I sometimes don’t factor in tax and shipping, or the gas involved in going to get it, or little things along the way. And it’s always more than I expected at the end looking back. But it does give an idea of where the money goes when working on games like this. Thanks!
A lot of people don't know that the particle board and wood glue is the recipe for those old Nature Valley oats and honey granola bars.
Haha
Looks amazing. Is the brief bit of static/graphical garbage when the attract mode changes scenes, normal? I'm thinking maybe it's linked to the other graphical issue that you adjusted to be just out of view. But then again I've not played on a real Tron in quite a few years, so I may have just forgotten that it's a normal part of the game (and don't trust emulation to tell me if it's supposed or not supposed to happen, although it doesn't seem to happen in MAME nor the Xbox Live Arcade release for the Xbox 360).
I think it is normal to be there due to how the hardware works. I think I saw a video of another machine live and spotted it. But maybe not-
@ 01:43:35 - May not be a monitor issue, as the issue was not showing up when you had the TPG plugged in earlier in this video. It did show up when you had the Tron boards connected!
Yep-that’s how the Tron boards work so not a real problem. Found that out afterward :)
Not getting x-rayed everytime playing Tron, because of to high B+ voltage? Was thinking this is the true thron experience. ^^
Probably would be more immersive…especially if I started glowing!
Cabinet: $225
Parts: $500
Supplies: $750
Labor: $117,422
Totally worth it.
Next time you make it up here Chicago-way, check out Galloping Ghost in Brookfield. I’m dangerously 20 minutes from it.
You got all that exactly right! And I definitely need to check it out. I’ll probably be up that way in the next month or so.
@@tcurtis49it’s gotten larger over the years, they moved the pinball games to a different building, which is both crappy and nice. I’m not much of a pinball player so it’s fine with me, I have friends that ick at it. The one thing I’ve noticed over the past decade or so though is that the older games seem to be disappearing, say anything before the late 80’s. You used to see early 80’s stuff more, I’m guessing they’re just too difficult to maintain now, I do wonder where they ended up. An original Pac-Man or Asteroids is difficult to find there now.
That being said, it’s amazing, almost too much, if I had to guess there’s probably 5000 arcade games in their main building. It’s $20 for the whole day, free play, come and go as you want. There’s an excellent little brewery right down the street, in walking distance, and a couple good little taquerias close by.
I took my whole team there back in May for an outing, a dozen of us, most of them are in their mid twenties (half my age) so it was sort of culture shock for them. But, they did get to get the “real” arcade experience like we did as kids. One thing I consistently hear from people of that age group say, “boy, games were a lot harder back then”.
Great Video. Congrats on Tron and for having a hot, supportive and helpful wife.
Please do go on about the wife 😏 JK, I appreciate the kind words! 😊
Thanks and thanks! (And she is definitely hot, supportive and helpful!)
Thats funny... I just watched the original video and endured the ear destruction. Good job improving your content.
Do you remember the game Afterburner? I have the stand up version. It is a bit rough, and doesn’t fully work. Everything works accept for the stick. I not sure the issue. Maybe someday you can do a video on Afterburner or maybe even a Dragon’s Lair resto. Love your channel!! Keep the content coming.
I fixed up an Afterburner several years back that I got at a garage sale. Was a cool game but we didn’t play it much and I ended up selling it. Another one may cross my path again someday… I’m on the lookout for Dragon’s Lair but have a couple of fun projects going right now… more content to come :)
Hey, love the videos. I have a baby pac and I need to clean the playfield. Of course, everyone has their own opinion on how this should be done. People recommend Novus 1 and 2, and other people recommend nahptha. Some people recommend wax, some say Novus two is wax....
Anyways, this is my first machine and I don't wanna mess it up. I've seen the care you put into your restorations so I trust your opinion on this. What's your process?
If it matters by the way, I don't believe mine has Mylar.
I’m definitely not a pinball expert but have used Novus on mine. I tried to score a Baby Pac a few weeks ago but missed out, unfortunately…
@@tcurtis49 Thanks! Hopefully you get one soon!
Okay I'm liking the less music version... Very viewer focused to think of us... thanks for being proactive..
Keep in mind I balanced the music on my computer to where it seemed perfect, but it wasn’t until it had been up for quite a while that I saw complaints and tried it on other devices. Sometimes it’s great and sometimes it’s way too loud, depending on device. I’ll try to find the sweet spot on future videos :)
@@tcurtis49 yep... the tech today is great, but still not perfect... Thanks for doing this upload, I enjoyed it.. Tron was one of my favorites back in the day... use to go as a teenager to StarBase 1... many O' quarters loss to these things... :)
Excellent video! Much better without the music.
@ 01:32:10 - Almost looks like it would be cool for someone to make a monitor to replace that, so that you could animate that whole scene there
People have already done that-I’ve seen some videos and it does look cool.
32:44 interesting conversation happening
Thank you for this version, this is more watchable for me. Had it been more 80s era techno music I could have probably tolerated it but the dubstep stuff was abit too much for my taste.
Glad it worked for you. I'm going to try to strike a better balance in future videos.
I admire your passion and electronics skills, but the wood working & painting side of things needs more effort to class it as restored for durability purposes.
But keep going, and you will pick up new techniques along the way to make things easier and give a better and more solid finish. 😉👍
There’s a distinction beyond “restored” to like new and “restored” to fixed. I don’t care much for games that look brand new. As far as the other sections, what am I sacrificing as far as durability with wood working and painting? I’ve been doing this for 30 or so years now and have never had an issue with any previous repair deteriorating.
@tcurtis49 Hey, I understand that. But there is also a distinction between restored and patched up. 😉
At some point the wood loses it durability. I was simply point out that there are other ways to restore its strength when it gets to the point that the bottom of this was. A simple cutting off and replacement of the botton of the sides with a biscuit joiner and glue then fill the join would have looked great and reduced the chance of further flaking/wood deteriorration in the future.
Also, undercoat is very important. We all hate having to do it, but it really does help as it's job is to soak into the surface of the wood and give the paint a good suface to cling too.
Was just trying to help. No need to get defensive. 👍
@tcurtis49 PS. Some oil based polyurethane on the bottom quarter of the inside of the cabinet and exposed wood on the underside will help to prevent scuffing and stop the bottom of the unit from wicking up any water in future should it happen to be unfortunate enough to come in contact with any. But not on any visible areas though, that stuff yellows over time. But it's brilliant stuff and gives an extra layer of protection after all your hard work.
All the best. 😊👍
@mrlox9576 Good point on the biscuit corners-for sure. And that’s something I will likely show on other projects. Keep in mind these videos are going to an extreme to see what’s possible rather than what’s most practical and if I were a professional restorer I would have cut all new pieces for sure and probably not even bothered with chopping it down.
Interestingly, as far as primer, I have never had paint come off. Ever. Except when I’ve primed. So I’m cautious with it. Sometimes it’s necessary just to have an even surface and sometimes the final coats (oil-based) don’t adhere as well to it as they would to the existing previously primed and now stripped wood. But I do typically use it with new wood. I didn’t on the bottom of the Tron because that’s a surface that’s usually not painted at all and I just wanted to hide the seams on the sides with a thin layer to make it more attractive. And I definitely do better with no primer on Bondo, but maybe I’ve just had bad luck. I primed a ton on the Red Tent video, which was mostly metal. No argument there. And my next project is back to bare wood so it will definitely get primed.
Often in the restoration world there is a wide divide of opinions on what is the “right” way to fix something so I don’t know if feedback is a difference of opinion or a true error. And I definitely don’t want to be making true errors. But since I’m working on my own projects I have to live with the results, and I do get to see over time what works well and what doesn’t. But I’ll keep adjusting and watching out for helpful advice. Thanks!
@@tcurtis49 hey, that's interesting on the primer as my experience is the opposite. Very strange.
Nah cutting completely new sides and prepping them is too much effort. Lol
As for the 'right way', forget that concept. I wasn't trying to criticise. Do whatever works for you, but try to stay open to suggestions, sometimes there can be a new easier/better way to do certain things that someone has figured out, or new products that work better.
But keeping a few rolls of generic colored decals (black, white, etc) that ypu can cut to size/shape can be a real life saver when just wanting to cover small areas without too much work (or to just fix part of a larger decal).
Thanks for taking the time to reply Tod,
Am now subscribed. 😊👍
The music is still terrible but removing most of it like you apparently did makes it watchable. Thanks for that.
Maybe you don’t have a subwoofer. If you don’t that’s part of the problem with the music. It’s fine for little bits but constant throbbing gets old.
I do, but I think I just didn’t notice it being so repetitive. Thanks!
I'm not going to watch the same 2 hour video again. But if you post more restorations without the overbearing dubstep, I'll probably watch that.
Will do :)
Almost ship of theseus level at this point
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Tartarian architecture all over the small town and with the exception, of giant human beings in Your Face !