Financial stress often precipitates terrible outcomes ... divorce is a very volatile time, and extreme caution always a good idea, even if there is NO HISTORY of violence, or threats of violence.
The thing about an "emotional affair" is that it can go carnal pretty fast. When those things are combined, both people are essentially lost at sea. I wish I didn't know this.
@@chris55529 I think these emotional affairs are more damaging, too, cuz they usually don't go anywhere long term or at all. One of the people involved usually cares more, and gets hurt. I can see why this might happen in prison frequently.
So many immature people get married, to bad getting a marriage license doesn’t include some sort of standards. Maybe a certain amount of couples therapy sessions where topics like finances, raising children, goals, how to communicate, expectations can be gone over.
Ironically, his former attorney would have had to honor the attorney client privilege, but by calling into question his attorney's competency after the trial, he opened the door for the attorney to publicly defend himself from potential sanctions. This included explaining why he had a limited strategy to work with...his client confessed that he did it.
@@matthewneufer1758 But that isn't what happened. He confided to his attorney who was defending. That is protected. What sunk his ship is he created a situation where his own attorney had to defend himself from allegations the client put forth that could have cost the attorney his license. Under those circumstances, the attorney was free disclose why he chose the limited strategy that he did to defend his client. His client was guilty.
I'm totally in shock. I listened to you twelve hours ago. Right before going to bed. Now im getting ready to take my afternoon nap. And boom here you are again. Soo happy How cool is that😍 Thank you Peace 💕🇺🇲
I feel for the children living in that environment. I hope they are with loving caregivers and get all the therapy they need to grow into mentally healthy adults.
If there's one thing that can make me grin with these horrible murder stories, it's when the killer is so egregious that they reject an incredibly generous plea deal -- only to end up with something far worse. I'd like to compile these into a video series.
Dr G mentioned twice his confusion as to why Stephanie kept bringing up something from the past that she wasn't bothered about before...the reason she's suddenly bothered about it now us because he said he'd kill her if she left him... this comes up now because its NOW that she's leaving him so it's now that she's at risk...
Well, yeah. Ive had women bring up things that happened quite a while back. They dont let things go, they store them up until the time is ripe to hash it out again. By chance, often its "that time of the month".....which may sound misogynistic but its true.
@@bradsanders6954 lol whereas men can reserve the right to be a pain in the arm at any time ofvthe month! Lol anyway the issue obviously wasn't resolved first time round d if it keeps being brought up. Or they think it's symbolic of another current ongoing problem?
Good afternoon, Dr. Grande! Aren't you the busy little beaver! Two videos and a short for today! A combination of four causes of death? Dale had a propensity for violence and now that he was about to lose his wife, he finally had a real reason, in his mind, to get violent. But it's clear that her didn't premeditate it. So she died.
Dr. Grande, thank you for another interesting commentary. I would really like to hear your take on Tim Scroggin of Texas. It is one of the more bizarre crime stories I have ever read about.
I do not agree with Dr G as Dale already threatened years ago to kill her, and many women stay in a dangerous marriage for years for various reasons. But violence towards the partner, children and even animals is a bad sign.
The guy "Simp" in the cube next to me has been fooling around with another coworker & last week I heard him yelling at her for going on a 2 week Caribbean vacation with her husband & kids. He is T'eed off that she is spending so much time with her husband.
When I saw the Dateline episode covering this case, I believed Dale was innocent. I don't remember any coverage detailing this history of violence or her taking the laptop. Dateline also explained he didn't participate in the search bc the police told him to stay home just in case she returned. The show presented Stephanie as wreckless, immature, and impulsive. Dateline also reported that Dale helped Stephanie move out and tolerated her back & forth behavior throughout the affair. But he confessed to his attorney🤷🏾♀️
Too bad that Dale didn’t call for help after he struck her. He would have been in a lot less trouble. Then he didn’t take the deal for 24 years and blabbed to his lawyer. He was dangerous and incredibly stupid. Thanks again for your analysis. I usually catch your videos too late to comment and I love to participate 😎
@@ianarmstrong9594 Having been in a situation similar to this I can tell you that what people confess to doing and what they actually did are two different things. I think when a person is guilty of something like cheating, whether it be physical or not and are found out they tend to try and diminish their acts so their partner won't be "too mad". And even if it were just an emotional affair (I hate the word affair btw, makes it seem less than what it is) I've seen it where a person will do whatever it takes to try and at least talk to the other person again to try to figure out why or convince that person to be with them. As far as how a person reacts to finding out their partner is/has cheated all I can say is it's easy to think what you'd do in a situation like that but you can never be too certain of yourself when all of it hits you at once. For a guy, fear is a spark in a room full of explosives. It ignites your rage and even though you truly love the person, in that moment your anger is in total control. It seems to be much worse if it's a complete surprise vs a gradual suspicion and then finding out what you suspected. Even then things are 50/50 at best on how you'll react. We humans forget that the only thing keeping us from what we truly are is society. It would only take a reasonable natural disaster to see what humans are capable of.
@@tonymerrell lots of common sense in your comment but that said lots and lots of people cheat and get caught and their partners don’t strangle, beat them with a rock and leave them to die of hypothermia. It takes a special kind of monster to do that, different than surviving an apocalypse. Interesting guy, confess to his attorney and still roll the dice with a trial, he got what he deserved….
It is interesting that Dr. Grande characterized it as an emotional affair. I certainly wouldn’t take anyone’s word that nothing happened. However, perhaps police combed through their exchanges and they detailed the extent of their relationship.
I'm of the opinion that a woman is the one who usually has an emotional affair. A man who cheats is trying to get a little extra on the side, but is too afraid to keep the other woman at bay. I have no experience in this but it's my guess.
I absolutely despise ex partners being brought in to testify because their testimony means nothing. A lot of ex partners would jump at the opportunity to stick the knife in whatever the truth is.
I dated Dale the summer of 1991 and seriously considered marrying him. He was never violent with me but did throw small childish tantrums when he didn't get his way. I was utterly shocked to hear of all of this. Guess I dodged a bullet. 😶
I have to call bull@$t on this emotional affair. That was to save his own skin with the wife. I hope she danced off into the sunset with another partner.
More than an emotional affair, is what im assuming, because that’s what I thought too. Nobody rode off into any sunsets tho! “Emotional affair” lol. Hilarious
There seems to be many cases of this type. Some more or less normal guy is being cheated on, verbally berated, emotionally abused, or maybe physically pushed around a little. Outwardly he doesn’t appear dangerous. In fact he might seem to be a weakling or a push over. His wife or someone else close to him, usually a woman, develops contempt for him. This causes her to lose situational awareness. He is getting closer to losing it, and she is causally doing things (sending e-mail to her lover right in front of him) that are risking disaster. He snaps and reacts violently. But it’s not some TV version of performance violence, it is extreme animalistic unhinged violence. It’s like nothing that the victim has ever seen and nothing that the perpetrator thought possible. This takes both the victim and the perpetrator by surprise, often with deadly results. People need to understand this sequence of events in order to avoid it. If your wife is cheating on you or slapping you around, go to a lawyer and plan a divorce. If you are tired of your jerk husband, go to a lawyer and plan a divorce. Dont play with fire by ratcheting the tension to higher and higher levels until someone gets hurt or killed.
Hi Dr. Grande. She should've left & divorced him. Having a safety plan would've saved her life. No one should be abused whether it's physically, mentally, spiritually, financially, etc. May she RIP. Hopefully he rots in hell @ well @ prison. What makes people believe their own lies? Peace & fascinating times hopefully await you & your family. Love, Janine Smiley😏🙂😉😀😇🆒️💯❕❗
Generally there is some negativity that precedes divorce. A divorce is pretty disruptive, so it's usually the result of the parties gradual realization that they have absolutely no hope of happiness if they stay together. Arguments with varying degrees of heat are common, but where is your evidence she pushed him around? Any normal person wouldn't be brazenly communicating with a lover. People have some privacy settings on their devices. Usually the marital breakdown is mutual. Neither party is happy with the other, and neither is a saint; both have disappointed the other, and been disappointed in turn. But most people navigate this without resorting to homicide.
almost sounded like a Murder he almost got away with. No woman is going out in a snowstorm with their laptop. The snowstorm was very clever of him to take advantage ... clever like a demon.
"In Cold Blood" by Truman Capote! The first true crime novel I read. Still #1 on my "list"! I'll never forget the impact it had on my life. I lost my naiveté and innocence in reading the book, but it undoubtedly saved my life more than once during extended cross country trips as a very young woman. I basically trusted few people, and my instincts were always correct, as far as discerning a person's character and avoiding those with red flags waving behind their peace signs. They were legion then. Doesn't appear things have improved since way-back. Another reason I love you Sir. You offer a lot of practical, common sense, and nonjudgmental guidance. You make me Think and I can't be the only one. P.S. The movie was good also. Eagerly awaiting your take on this infamous quadruple murder. Thank you. XxxOoo
This one hits close to home... I live in a mountain resort town not far away, and didn't just go to college with the victim and the defense attorney, they were both part of my circle of friends, although they never met (she graduated while he was still in the Navy). I think the legal conundrum this case presents, is more interesting than the case itself -- appealing based on lack of effective representation, gets rid of attorney-client privilege. So 12 years later, the attorney gets to explain himself -- that's when the confession came out, not when it was made, the video gets that detail wrong -- but he'd already been ostracized by his friends for even defending this guy, just so much worse now that he didn't fire his client. Attorneys never ask clients if they're guilty. If someone is guilty of the crime they're on trial for, the last person they should confess to is their attorney. It changes the nature of the defense, and they can't really use "ineffective counsel" as an appeal without the confession becoming public knowledge. What happened in this case is vanishingly rare.
I always wonder why these people don't divorce if they meet their so called soul mates. Ron was not her soul mate, by the way. And neither was her husband. And if a woman is truly faced with someone who states that he will kill her if she leaves, then leave immediately and try to leave that person behind totally. This whole situation could be have been avoided. Not blaming the victim, but she got involved with unstable men.
Women, and men. Marry for all kinds of reasons. Often nothing to do with love or anything like it. They have a need and they see a way to fill it. But everybody's an actor to some degree and they put up a good front. For a while. Many put a good face on it in public about their "never ending fairy tale love affair". It often isnt that way on the home front.
Where was the laptop found after her death? Was it by her body? Since the last email was never sent, the only way you would know that is by looking at the computer itself. Dale said she left with her laptop and phone. If the computer wasn't recovered, how would we know of the non sent email?
I would have been convinced that Dale was guilty if I had been on the jury. No doubt. I saw a true crime documentary on this case, and that offered a lot more details. I don't recall anything about the confession from Dale to his attorney, but that definitely seals it.
Dr. Grande, please study dynamics of domestic violence. It is not unusual for prior threats to become alarming at separation/divorce. A woman in a domestic violence situation is at the most risk when she is pregnant, or when she is leaving. Prior incidents of strangulation are a major risk for homicide. Although it is not reported that Dale strangled Stephanie, he had strangled two other women in the past. It is also not unusual for incidents such as that to not be reported to the police. He strangled her, she passed out, he lets her breathe, incident is over. The police are called during DV incidents when it is actively violent, rarely are charges pressed if an incident resolves without police intervention. This is classic DV.
I lived in Colorado back when this happened. Several of her friends wrote very eloquent tributes to her which were posted online. Her children are the ones who I most empathize with. Very sad.
I have to agree with Dr. Grande's view that he was probably guilty but there was enough reasonable doubt to acquit. Unless there was a lot more evidence that was not shown us, I have to wonder how a jury could be persuaded to convict on that basis. Prosecutors have to have their feet held to the fire. If they can get away with winning cases on flimsy evidence soon they will get conviction with just a wink and a nod.
People often minimize their behavior when they have an affair and also often trickle information. First it’s just emotional, then they just kissed, then they just…….
You've misunderstood the entire point of the phrase, "emotional affair." Yes, as you said, an "affair" is sex. An "emotional affair" indicates there is no sex, but there is romance. She was in the process of writing a love letter to this man, when she was killed. She was caught in an emotional affair. If you don't think that's wrong, then I feel sorry for any partner you've been with. (Btw none of this is any justification for violence, the guy deserved life in prison, he was a violent man who was going to end up being a murderer one way or the other, based on his history of strangling and abusing.)
Dr. Grande: Have you posted a video on the increase of mass shootings in the U.S.? 2023 has been horrible. Any thoughts as to what is going on? And why now? Thanks.
I appreciate Dr.Grande’s clinical opinion that infidelity is usually an unrealistic solution to marital problems. There is a reason for the adage about grass being greener on the other side.
When someone attacks your kid and you still don’t leave, the lack of common sense/ fit judgement, would make it a miracle to survive any choice in this life.
When you're at the point of telling someone that if something happens to you, it was your partner, LEAVE IMMEDIATELY. It does you no good if you're dead.
Been married 3 times and soon after the 10 year mark each wife cheated & left me for another man. Initially I angered when learning of their betrayal but I could never cause them harm. I simply left them and wished them the best with their new lover, and stopped by every Friday to pickup the kid(s) for the weekend.
All this is why I ride bicycles a lot, and motorcycles, and take trips to where ever. Not everybody needs to be married despite what we are conditioned to believe from birth. Some get married 6 times and are always looking for the next one. Gee, wonder why it never works out? Must be the other person.
The fact that AH didn't know who Raven Symone was is what I took away from this. I wonder if AH had to ask someone for help or if she just bothered the cops, telling them it was an emergency. Help! I'm locked out of my Tesla because I'm an airhead!
WHO in the world would kill a wife already being divorced from and half out of the house? That makes ZERO sense. In addition: attacking his son (was HE ever asked what happened) never would have given his wife a TPO. It would have set in motion Child Protective Services. That story is fishy too, to say it friendly.
What does an emotional affair look like? To me, in such circumstances, the person the most enthused with the relationship is for all intent and purpose merely in it for the sympathetic ear, a shoulder to cry, and the empathy she received. I'm sure that was what Stephanie was in this relationship mostly for although she may have wanted it to advance beyond that at some later date. But in all honesty, it's been my experience from engaging in such idiotic behavior that most of the mostly middle-aged women I encountered in that long distant time did it for a more vigorous sexual relationship and usually with a younger guy and not some fantastical romance inspired by some incipient tale in a novel. The married women who had affairs with me during my single years, and on occasion caused me to be subjected to death threats, mostly wanted to believe they were still capable of being women who were desirable in a more visceral way. In reality, I suppose most humans have this in common but only those unable to completely suppress it and make themselves comport to polite society are given the wherewithal to seek relief in infidelity. And since I'm an old man now I take comfort in the fact it was not a time so filled with homicidal wrath. though I am rather certain the crime rate was higher during my late teens or early twenties or at least criminals were far more cunning, but don't remember so much carnage as we see today. It was during a time when a man would be more of a threat for physical violence rather than homicide which seems to become the preferred option of our current enraged and maddeningly pathological culture. The worse I suffered was a gun being waved in my face whereas today a young man with such a reckless approach to life and feminine companionship. At age 37 I wearied of such dangerous liaisons once I started getting stalked. I married the divorced woman I was dating at the time and our next anniversary will be our 37th together. No doubt I wanted to kill her in all that time but never over infidelity. Her husband was stupid for not taking the deal because even a blind person could see that he did it.
It snowed the other day, here in NJ. Yes, I looked for my laptop & phone, then ran off into the blizzard with a light jacket. 🙄 Women don't usually run outside psst 10 pm. Dale didn't report her.missing, because he knew where she was.
Haven’t watched the whole story yet and don’t know “who did what to whom” but those two photos between 1:36 and 1:42 sure do look like screen grabs from filmed police interrogation videos . . . 😅!
Stephanie didn’t use good judgment even having the emotional affair (if that’s even true that’s all that was going on). It’s not a stretch that she used poor judgement with romantic e mails when dale could find her
I remember dale’s interviews and his crazy eyes. He was so unbelievably manipulative and the things he said and did reminded me of my abuser. It was behind closed doors and I never involved law enforcement, but it was very real. I think Dale was losing control. I respect Dr. Grandes viewpoint on the case regardless.
Kind of reminds me of the time my friend caught gonorrhea, and when he told the two girls he was seeing at the time, they both apologized.
Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaa I'm cracking up haha
😅😅
...I get it but I don't...?
2 weeks on and I'm still laughing way more than I should be still at this banger 😅
@@jademcqueen5474 I'm glad I've changed at least one life for the better :)
Financial stress often precipitates terrible outcomes ... divorce is a very volatile time, and extreme caution always a good idea, even if there is NO HISTORY of violence, or threats of violence.
The thing about an "emotional affair" is that it can go carnal pretty fast. When those things are combined, both people are essentially lost at sea. I wish I didn't know this.
Yup...They seem harmless, at the beginning. Like close friends. Until it's not like close friends.
@@chris55529 I think these emotional affairs are more damaging, too, cuz they usually don't go anywhere long term or at all. One of the people involved usually cares more, and gets hurt. I can see why this might happen in prison frequently.
I think, they did more than kiss.
A match looking for a light.
@@LDiamondz????
So many immature people get married, to bad getting a marriage license doesn’t include some sort of standards. Maybe a certain amount of couples therapy sessions where topics like finances, raising children, goals, how to communicate, expectations can be gone over.
The ol' "we had an arguement and she/he went for a walk/drive (despite the fact that it's the middle of the night or bad weather)" excuse
And took a laptop because thats what i grab when walking
Ironically, his former attorney would have had to honor the attorney client privilege, but by calling into question his attorney's competency after the trial, he opened the door for the attorney to publicly defend himself from potential sanctions. This included explaining why he had a limited strategy to work with...his client confessed that he did it.
He did the right thing.
I had NO idea that was a thing. Dale really shot himself in the foot there.
yep. don't give your attorney damning info, then try to get him disbarred.
The attorney client privilege is null if he or she threatened to kill themselfs or kill others it's the attorneys responsibility to do something.
@@matthewneufer1758 But that isn't what happened. He confided to his attorney who was defending. That is protected. What sunk his ship is he created a situation where his own attorney had to defend himself from allegations the client put forth that could have cost the attorney his license. Under those circumstances, the attorney was free disclose why he chose the limited strategy that he did to defend his client. His client was guilty.
2 Dr Grande videos in 1 day?
1 before work and 1 after! 🙏🏻 Best day in a long time!
Have a great weekend Sir!
I agree! Your formula works so well by giving you a handle to grab the story with.
I'm totally in shock.
I listened to you twelve hours ago.
Right before going to bed.
Now im getting ready to take my afternoon nap. And boom here you are again. Soo happy
How cool is that😍
Thank you
Peace 💕🇺🇲
I feel for the children living in that environment. I hope they are with loving caregivers and get all the therapy they need to grow into mentally healthy adults.
If there's one thing that can make me grin with these horrible murder stories, it's when the killer is so egregious that they reject an incredibly generous plea deal -- only to end up with something far worse. I'd like to compile these into a video series.
It's been a long time since I caught a Dr G video this early. Happy days.
Hey Dr. Grande! Watching the Murdaugh trial, but stopping to watch your always great content now!
I've been watching it, too. I just wish he would give some yes/no answers, instead of explaining every single answer. I think he did it.
Dr G mentioned twice his confusion as to why Stephanie kept bringing up something from the past that she wasn't bothered about before...the reason she's suddenly bothered about it now us because he said he'd kill her if she left him... this comes up now because its NOW that she's leaving him so it's now that she's at risk...
Well, yeah. Ive had women bring up things that happened quite a while back.
They dont let things go, they store them up until the time is ripe to hash it out again.
By chance, often its "that time of the month".....which may sound misogynistic but its true.
@@bradsanders6954 lol whereas men can reserve the right to be a pain in the arm at any time ofvthe month! Lol anyway the issue obviously wasn't resolved first time round d if it keeps being brought up. Or they think it's symbolic of another current ongoing problem?
Hi Dr. Grande, can you please analyze my love for real crime stories and my need to binge on Dr. Grande videos? 😁
Dog face, so sweet.
What a nice dogly face, thanks for sharing it with us.
Thank you Dr Grande! And belated happy birthday! 😊 Love from South Africa
Thanks Dr. Grande for the excellent "speculation". Please cover Jimmy Hoffa?
I also love Truman Capote! Great book, amazing writer!! I will try Blinkist
Good afternoon, Dr. Grande!
Aren't you the busy little beaver! Two videos and a short for today!
A combination of four causes of death?
Dale had a propensity for violence and now that he was about to lose his wife, he finally had a real reason, in his mind, to get violent.
But it's clear that her didn't premeditate it.
So she died.
After my long day work - love to watch Dr Grande videos - he spot on every details and explain it well -thank you
Dr. Grande I saw you on a TV station news. They were asking for your opinion. Glad they contacted you.
Dr. Grande, thank you for another interesting commentary. I would really like to hear your take on Tim Scroggin of Texas. It is one of the more bizarre crime stories I have ever read about.
Me too and I agree!
I do not agree with Dr G as Dale already threatened years ago to kill her, and many women stay in a dangerous marriage for years for various reasons. But violence towards the partner, children and even animals is a bad sign.
I used to call this behavior at work ‘mental copulation’. It is indeed powerful 🤢 Especially to watch day in day out with coworkers…..🤢😂
Sounds like all you do is sit around and watch your coworkers. Do you even have a job?
@@edwardwright2989 If she didn't, why would you accuse her of having coworkers? Which is it? Calm the F down.
The guy "Simp" in the cube next to me has been fooling around with another coworker & last week I heard him yelling at her for going on a 2 week Caribbean vacation with her husband & kids. He is T'eed off that she is spending so much time with her husband.
Lots of people have a “work” husband or wife lol
When I saw the Dateline episode covering this case, I believed Dale was innocent. I don't remember any coverage detailing this history of violence or her taking the laptop. Dateline also explained he didn't participate in the search bc the police told him to stay home just in case she returned. The show presented Stephanie as wreckless, immature, and impulsive. Dateline also reported that Dale helped Stephanie move out and tolerated her back & forth behavior throughout the affair.
But he confessed to his attorney🤷🏾♀️
Maybe he used the laptop to hit her over the head, getting rid of that evidence along with the body.
What are the hx and bx?
@@SunnyAndShare History and Bullsh&t.
@@LDiamondz Why censor "history", though?
@@SunnyAndShare Probably not for censorship, just an abbreviation. I think.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this case, Dr. Grande.
I hope you have a great weekend ahead.❤
Too bad that Dale didn’t call for help after he struck her. He would have been in a lot less trouble. Then he didn’t take the deal for 24 years and blabbed to his lawyer. He was dangerous and incredibly stupid. Thanks again for your analysis. I usually catch your videos too late to comment and I love to participate 😎
Stephanie was just in an emotional relationship not physical with the other guy.... complete BS
@@ianarmstrong9594 Having been in a situation similar to this I can tell you that what people confess to doing and what they actually did are two different things. I think when a person is guilty of something like cheating, whether it be physical or not and are found out they tend to try and diminish their acts so their partner won't be "too mad". And even if it were just an emotional affair (I hate the word affair btw, makes it seem less than what it is) I've seen it where a person will do whatever it takes to try and at least talk to the other person again to try to figure out why or convince that person to be with them. As far as how a person reacts to finding out their partner is/has cheated all I can say is it's easy to think what you'd do in a situation like that but you can never be too certain of yourself when all of it hits you at once. For a guy, fear is a spark in a room full of explosives. It ignites your rage and even though you truly love the person, in that moment your anger is in total control. It seems to be much worse if it's a complete surprise vs a gradual suspicion and then finding out what you suspected. Even then things are 50/50 at best on how you'll react. We humans forget that the only thing keeping us from what we truly are is society. It would only take a reasonable natural disaster to see what humans are capable of.
@@tonymerrell lots of common sense in your comment but that said lots and lots of people cheat and get caught and their partners don’t strangle, beat them with a rock and leave them to die of hypothermia. It takes a special kind of monster to do that, different than surviving an apocalypse. Interesting guy, confess to his attorney and still roll the dice with a trial, he got what he deserved….
It is interesting that Dr. Grande characterized it as an emotional affair. I certainly wouldn’t take anyone’s word that nothing happened. However, perhaps police combed through their exchanges and they detailed the extent of their relationship.
If they hit you SPLIT. ALWAYS SPLIT. NO HITTING.
In Cold Blood…an excellent book.❤️🇨🇦
So weird that a very young Robert Blake starred as one of the murderers in the movie In Cold Blood and then went on to be a prosecuted for murder.
If someone believes there is such a thing as an "emotional affair", then where do they draw the line?
I'm of the opinion that a woman is the one who usually has an emotional affair. A man who cheats is trying to get a little extra on the side, but is too afraid to keep the other woman at bay. I have no experience in this but it's my guess.
I absolutely despise ex partners being brought in to testify because their testimony means nothing. A lot of ex partners would jump at the opportunity to stick the knife in whatever the truth is.
Your videos are so interesting!! I love your channel.
I dated Dale the summer of 1991 and seriously considered marrying him. He was never violent with me but did throw small childish tantrums when he didn't get his way. I was utterly shocked to hear of all of this. Guess I dodged a bullet. 😶
Dr. Grande, I enjoy your analysis. I can’t imagine how crazy busy you are in these days. God Bless you.
Good analysis Dr G
LEGEND! Don't forget to take a break Dr. G!
I have to call bull@$t on this emotional affair. That was to save his own skin with the wife. I hope she danced off into the sunset with another partner.
Do you mean you theorize that it never happened or it was more than an emotional affair?
More than an emotional affair, is what im assuming, because that’s what I thought too.
Nobody rode off into any sunsets tho!
“Emotional affair” lol. Hilarious
I'd like to be disoriented and confused by YOUR LOVE Dr. Grande!
There seems to be many cases of this type. Some more or less normal guy is being cheated on, verbally berated, emotionally abused, or maybe physically pushed around a little. Outwardly he doesn’t appear dangerous. In fact he might seem to be a weakling or a push over. His wife or someone else close to him, usually a woman, develops contempt for him. This causes her to lose situational awareness. He is getting closer to losing it, and she is causally doing things (sending e-mail to her lover right in front of him) that are risking disaster. He snaps and reacts violently. But it’s not some TV version of performance violence, it is extreme animalistic unhinged violence. It’s like nothing that the victim has ever seen and nothing that the perpetrator thought possible. This takes both the victim and the perpetrator by surprise, often with deadly results. People need to understand this sequence of events in order to avoid it. If your wife is cheating on you or slapping you around, go to a lawyer and plan a divorce. If you are tired of your jerk husband, go to a lawyer and plan a divorce. Dont play with fire by ratcheting the tension to higher and higher levels until someone gets hurt or killed.
You’re rationalizing and empathizing mmm why???
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why not?
Hi Dr. Grande. She should've left & divorced him. Having a safety plan would've saved her life. No one should be abused whether it's physically, mentally, spiritually, financially, etc. May she RIP. Hopefully he rots in hell @ well @ prison. What makes people believe their own lies? Peace & fascinating times hopefully await you & your family. Love, Janine Smiley😏🙂😉😀😇🆒️💯❕❗
Generally there is some negativity that precedes divorce. A divorce is pretty disruptive, so it's usually the result of the parties gradual realization that they have absolutely no hope of happiness if they stay together. Arguments with varying degrees of heat are common, but where is your evidence she pushed him around? Any normal person wouldn't be brazenly communicating with a lover. People have some privacy settings on their devices. Usually the marital breakdown is mutual. Neither party is happy with the other, and neither is a saint; both have disappointed the other, and been disappointed in turn. But most people navigate this without resorting to homicide.
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Good Afternoon Dr. Grande, great analysis. I saw this on A&E sometime back. As always I learn something new from your videos.
almost sounded like a Murder he almost got away with. No woman is going out in a snowstorm with their laptop. The snowstorm was very clever of him to take advantage ... clever like a demon.
"In Cold Blood" by Truman Capote! The first true crime novel I read. Still #1 on my "list"! I'll never forget the impact it had on my life. I lost my naiveté and innocence in reading the book, but it undoubtedly saved my life more than once during extended cross country trips as a very young woman. I basically trusted few people, and my instincts were always correct, as far as discerning a person's character and avoiding those with red flags waving behind their peace signs. They were legion then. Doesn't appear things have improved since way-back. Another reason I love you Sir. You offer a lot of practical, common sense, and nonjudgmental guidance. You make me Think and I can't be the only one. P.S. The movie was good also. Eagerly awaiting your take on this infamous quadruple murder. Thank you. XxxOoo
Marriage is completely off the table for me. If you can afford to move to Silverthorne, you’ve got a lot to risk.
I like this vid. Good insight and great analysis... The difference was in the Emotions.
This one hits close to home... I live in a mountain resort town not far away, and didn't just go to college with the victim and the defense attorney, they were both part of my circle of friends, although they never met (she graduated while he was still in the Navy). I think the legal conundrum this case presents, is more interesting than the case itself -- appealing based on lack of effective representation, gets rid of attorney-client privilege.
So 12 years later, the attorney gets to explain himself -- that's when the confession came out, not when it was made, the video gets that detail wrong -- but he'd already been ostracized by his friends for even defending this guy, just so much worse now that he didn't fire his client. Attorneys never ask clients if they're guilty.
If someone is guilty of the crime they're on trial for, the last person they should confess to is their attorney. It changes the nature of the defense, and they can't really use "ineffective counsel" as an appeal without the confession becoming public knowledge. What happened in this case is vanishingly rare.
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I always wonder why these people don't divorce if they meet their so called soul mates. Ron was not her soul mate, by the way. And neither was her husband. And if a woman is truly faced with someone who states that he will kill her if she leaves, then leave immediately and try to leave that person behind totally. This whole situation could be have been avoided. Not blaming the victim, but she got involved with unstable men.
There is no shit such as “soul mates”
Women, and men. Marry for all kinds of reasons. Often nothing to do with love or anything like it.
They have a need and they see a way to fill it. But everybody's an actor to some degree and they put up a good front.
For a while. Many put a good face on it in public about their "never ending fairy tale love affair".
It often isnt that way on the home front.
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Where was the laptop found after her death? Was it by her body? Since the last email was never sent, the only way you would know that is by looking at the computer itself. Dale said she left with her laptop and phone. If the computer wasn't recovered, how would we know of the non sent email?
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I would have been convinced that Dale was guilty if I had been on the jury. No doubt. I saw a true crime documentary on this case, and that offered a lot more details. I don't recall anything about the confession from Dale to his attorney, but that definitely seals it.
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Dr Grande, could you talk about the Robert Durst case?
I can’t believe this was over an emotional affair
“I am a witness” x infinity.
“To what?”
“To behavior” x 1.
I don't buy the "emotional affair" thing. People bang in affairs.
Dr. Grande, please study dynamics of domestic violence. It is not unusual for prior threats to become alarming at separation/divorce. A woman in a domestic violence situation is at the most risk when she is pregnant, or when she is leaving.
Prior incidents of strangulation are a major risk for homicide. Although it is not reported that Dale strangled Stephanie, he had strangled two other women in the past.
It is also not unusual for incidents such as that to not be reported to the police. He strangled her, she passed out, he lets her breathe, incident is over. The police are called during DV incidents when it is actively violent, rarely are charges pressed if an incident resolves without police intervention.
This is classic DV.
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I lived in Colorado back when this happened. Several of her friends wrote very eloquent tributes to her which were posted online. Her children are the ones who I most empathize with. Very sad.
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Dr Grande, could you anaylse the stats on incidents that occur in the month of November.
Dale is where he deserves to be. He didn't have to kill her. She was right about him after all.
I have to agree with Dr. Grande's view that he was probably guilty but there was enough reasonable doubt to acquit. Unless there was a lot more evidence that was not shown us, I have to wonder how a jury could be persuaded to convict on that basis. Prosecutors have to have their feet held to the fire. If they can get away with winning cases on flimsy evidence soon they will get conviction with just a wink and a nod.
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An “emotional affair” seems a bit of an exaggeration for what happened between Stephanie Bruner and the physical therapist.
People often minimize their behavior when they have an affair and also often trickle information. First it’s just emotional, then they just kissed, then they just…….
@@kpas22105 I agree people tend to minimize bad behavior, but anything before sex isn’t an affair was my point.
You've misunderstood the entire point of the phrase, "emotional affair."
Yes, as you said, an "affair" is sex.
An "emotional affair" indicates there is no sex, but there is romance. She was in the process of writing a love letter to this man, when she was killed. She was caught in an emotional affair.
If you don't think that's wrong, then I feel sorry for any partner you've been with.
(Btw none of this is any justification for violence, the guy deserved life in prison, he was a violent man who was going to end up being a murderer one way or the other, based on his history of strangling and abusing.)
Dr. Grande: Have you posted a video on the increase of mass shootings in the U.S.? 2023 has been horrible. Any thoughts as to what is going on? And why now? Thanks.
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I appreciate Dr.Grande’s clinical opinion that infidelity is usually an unrealistic solution to marital problems. There is a reason for the adage about grass being greener on the other side.
Always interesting
When someone attacks your kid and you still don’t leave, the lack of common sense/ fit judgement, would make it a miracle to survive any choice in this life.
When you're at the point of telling someone that if something happens to you, it was your partner, LEAVE IMMEDIATELY. It does you no good if you're dead.
Like the early upload. I remember this case but always great the way you lay things out. Thanks Dr G😊💙🤍
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Been married 3 times and soon after the 10 year mark each wife cheated & left me for another man. Initially I angered when learning of their betrayal but I could never cause them harm. I simply left them and wished them the best with their new lover, and stopped by every Friday to pickup the kid(s) for the weekend.
All this is why I ride bicycles a lot, and motorcycles, and take trips to where ever.
Not everybody needs to be married despite what we are conditioned to believe from birth.
Some get married 6 times and are always looking for the next one. Gee, wonder why it never works out?
Must be the other person.
Dale is scary scary don't stay with hitter's they don't quit.
"I know where she is, so I don't need to look for her." Dale
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Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.
The fact that AH didn't know who Raven Symone was is what I took away from this. I wonder if AH had to ask someone for help or if she just bothered the cops, telling them it was an emergency. Help! I'm locked out of my Tesla because I'm an airhead!
Soulmate.
Synonyms: tooth fairy, Easter bunny, chupacabra, etc..
I don’t believe the “emotional” part of the affair to the exclusion of the sexual part of it, it sounds like a bs she told her husband
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WHO in the world would kill a wife already being divorced from and half out of the house? That makes ZERO sense. In addition: attacking his son (was HE ever asked what happened) never would have given his wife a TPO. It would have set in motion Child Protective Services. That story is fishy too, to say it friendly.
What does an emotional affair look like? To me, in such circumstances, the person the most enthused with the relationship is for all intent and purpose merely in it for the sympathetic ear, a shoulder to cry, and the empathy she received. I'm sure that was what Stephanie was in this relationship mostly for although she may have wanted it to advance beyond that at some later date. But in all honesty, it's been my experience from engaging in such idiotic behavior that most of the mostly middle-aged women I encountered in that long distant time did it for a more vigorous sexual relationship and usually with a younger guy and not some fantastical romance inspired by some incipient tale in a novel. The married women who had affairs with me during my single years, and on occasion caused me to be subjected to death threats, mostly wanted to believe they were still capable of being women who were desirable in a more visceral way. In reality, I suppose most humans have this in common but only those unable to completely suppress it and make themselves comport to polite society are given the wherewithal to seek relief in infidelity. And since I'm an old man now I take comfort in the fact it was not a time so filled with homicidal wrath. though I am rather certain the crime rate was higher during my late teens or early twenties or at least criminals were far more cunning, but don't remember so much carnage as we see today. It was during a time when a man would be more of a threat for physical violence rather than homicide which seems to become the preferred option of our current enraged and maddeningly pathological culture. The worse I suffered was a gun being waved in my face whereas today a young man with such a reckless approach to life and feminine companionship. At age 37 I wearied of such dangerous liaisons once I started getting stalked. I married the divorced woman I was dating at the time and our next anniversary will be our 37th together. No doubt I wanted to kill her in all that time but never over infidelity. Her husband was stupid for not taking the deal because even a blind person could see that he did it.
You seem very full of yourself despite the fact you write like 7th-grade kid.
She probably wanted to kill you too.
It snowed the other day, here in NJ. Yes, I looked for my laptop & phone, then ran off into the blizzard with a light jacket. 🙄
Women don't usually run outside psst 10 pm.
Dale didn't report her.missing, because he knew where she was.
Haven’t watched the whole story yet and don’t know “who did what to whom” but those two photos between 1:36 and 1:42 sure do look like screen grabs from filmed police interrogation videos . . . 😅!
Dr. Grande, don’t short shrift yourself, read the whole actual book of IN COLD BLOOD! It’s fantastic! 📖
Stephanie didn’t use good judgment even having the emotional affair (if that’s even true that’s all that was going on). It’s not a stretch that she used poor judgement with romantic e mails when dale could find her
Very good.
IMO I think Cynthia needs to be looked at more . There is a motive for jealousy rage type of an attack
To me, this is why you don’t cheat on people. 😅
An interesting case
Why would anyone in their right mind opt for a jury trial? Juries, especially in the US, almost always convict.
How abt the case from ISU of the boy who died from drowning/freezing to death from Libertyville? Matthew Listman. . . Plz?
I was buying furniture and missed this until now
I wonder why I was drawn to this one.
There was an episode about it on TV. Her husband is the main suspect and he's a convict. I think he's guilty.
I'm not sure why Dr Grande would consider Ron and Cynthia as suspects. What motive did they have?
I remember dale’s interviews and his crazy eyes. He was so unbelievably manipulative and the things he said and did reminded me of my abuser. It was behind closed doors and I never involved law enforcement, but it was very real. I think Dale was losing control. I respect Dr. Grandes viewpoint on the case regardless.
What exactly is an "emotional affair?" It sounds to me like their problems started once their finances went bad.