R&R | 7.62x39 or 300 Blackout?
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I have probably 20 Elander mags that came from Alexander Arms with my 2 Alexander Arms Grendels. Not one of those magazines works with any 6.5G ammo, including Alexander Arms factory ammo. DuraMag for 6.5G & 7.62x39.
I'm buying x39 by the case manufactured by Norma, Belom and another company out of Eastern Europe which I don't recall at the moment. It's about fifty5 ¢ per round, average. All boxer primed brass cases.
The only steel case I have bought the past 4 years is 5.7 and x39 soft point subsonics.
Always enjoy your videos.
Keep up the good work 💪🏻
@@Swampytheroot I’ve heard good things of duramag. Strange your Elanders don’t work, mine are all great lol
300 blackout is why I got started reloading. I got my first AR in Blackout right as everything went to shit for ammo back around 2011/12. I wasn't going to pay over a buck a round for plinking ammo so I started rolling my own. Now I load several calibers and love it.
..luckily for me I have a nice supply of all.primers..in 2009 I took an inventory ans completely forgot about it until last week..Ive got at least 3K of each and grab them even today when I find 'em...
All those are the same exact reasons I went with 300 blackout small rifle primers, straight wall cases easier to reload from myself.
.300 is ONLY Good if at least 8.5" to be just at the threshold of stretching and tearing velocity w 110s, or if you go quite with subs. Also, 5.56 and 7.62 really belong in 11.5" to get the velocity they need and not be too blasty to wield effectively
I’m not currently set up to reload, so take my comment with that in mind. I can see the advantages of the .300 BLK where it pertains to cost as a reloader. I will say, while you can use a wide variety of .308 diameter bullets in the .300 Blackout, most will not perform as well from that cartridge, as you would get from a .310 bullet from a 7.62x39 simply because the majority of .310 bullets are made to perform from the velocity of the 7.62x39 and most .308 bullets are designed for at least .308 Winchester velocity. For cheaper shooting as a reloader I see the advantage for the .300 blackout. As someone that has had a .300 blackout, and currently owns a Zastava M70 7.62x39 I prefer the 7.62x39. PSA’s saber blade black tip is loaded with Hornady projectiles that test very well, and it sells for $10.99 a box. I haven’t seen any .300 Blackout at that cost that performs as well. PSA’s saber blades in the .300 blackout don’t perform nearly as well in the tests I’ve seen. If you go with higher end factory ammo, there’s really no difference other than the 150ish fps edge to the 7.62x39 and the obvious platform differences. I do like both and think both are good, I still think the 7.62x39 is slightly better for someone that does not reload. If I were reloading, I would likely give the edge to the .300 blackout for all of the reasons you gave.
Another great R&R. Thank you!
@@Matteo_ thank you!!!
I'm an AK guy. But long before I ventured over to the Kalash side of the force I was an AR and 300 Blk type 'o guy. In a choice between the two? Yeah I pick x39. In fact, I'll take x39 over 300 just about every time. So much so I have AR's that take AK mags, like the KS47. I also don't have to worry about a 300 getting accidentally mixed into my mag if I shoot 556 & 300 on the regular. AR KaBooms are no joke. Then there are the debacle 300 Blk AK's which are hard to properly gas even with their short gas tubes. Ugh... Another thing to note is x39 brass can be made from 6.5 Grendel brass. So you can get into x39 with a SRP.
FWIW 6.5 Grendel has a case taper nearly identical to that of the 308. So Grendel actually does quite well in a straight body mag like the 308 enjoys. AT one point CSSpecs was putting out straight body Grendel mags for the VEPRs
@@Matteo_ yeah the elanders are straight body, the c product mags I have are not. Sacrifice my Grendel brass for x39 brass???? You crazy man! lol 😆
@@thegundungeon These days my Grendel cases can either get turned into x39 brass or 6mm ARC brass.
@@Matteo_ I haven’t ventured into the arc, I figure it and Grendel are so close there’s really not a lot for me to explore there and I’m heavily invested in Grendel at this point. I don’t have anything 6mm so no bullet sharing.
@@thegundungeon I was also deeply invested in Grendel. 10 rifles in total. However, losing the cheap Russian ammo has hurt it overall. Swapping over has been relatively easy. .243” bullets are a bit cheaper. Not to mention the BCs with some of those options are nice. Plus the fact that 6 ARC is SAAMI approved and Hornady backed has the benefit of more available data for both gas and bolt gun loadings.
@@thegundungeon FWIW I’m also starting to venture into the 22 ARC. Which looks to deliver on all that the Valkyrie promised but didn’t.
I got into 300 blk because I couldn’t get large rifle primers for 7.62x39.
Not being a reloader and not using 300 Blackout, maybe my opinion doesn't carry much weight, but I know I can still get 7.62x39 for $0.52 a round or less. Target Sports has brass 124 gr for $0.50, but you know that. Maybe only fifteen to twenty cents cheaper than the lowest 300 blackout, but that twenty cents adds up. I guess if the cost difference is minimal and availability is a factor then 300 blackout would be the way to go for a reloader, but you still have to feed that Yugo SKS.
@@pinballrick6031 yes still keeping my sks’s fed for sure!
LOL... so people are starting to discover HT coat. Ok... so I missed out on all the cheap SKS rifles but it would work well for a 'soviet 300' Just a matter of developing a cast heavy bullet load that functions in an SKS. 30 caliber is 30 caliber and 220 cast and coated slugs are just that. They don't care what rifle.
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Good points made on the two cartridges, times are changing
@@ericbergfield6451 sadly so
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300 bko brass can be made from 5.56 or 223 brass.
@@larryderagowski8273 yeah that’s a good point too. It’s not something I’m going to do with it being available and cheap, but it can be done lol.
Back when it was 90 bucks for 1000 x39 I was shooting my sks a lot. Now I don't see the value in shooting a 3.5 MOA x39 when I can shoot a 1.5 MOA 300 BO for the same price.
@@Andrew-jm4tp exactly!
Just don’t get a 300bo cartridge mixed in with your 5.56. It makes for a bad day. My cousin did that. That’s one reason I have not got the 300bo upper. I’d be the guy to get one mixed up.
@@Off-target-xy6bx there are long ogive bullets that won’t let it chamber in a 5.56. My friend grabbed one of my 300blk mags here at the house and slammed it in his 5.56 and blew that puppy lol. Told him it’s what he gets for shooting my ammo lol I have pics of it on my instagram somewhere
@@thegundungeon My cousin didn’t get hurt but it left the 30 cal projectile in his 556 barrel. Blew the mag out of the gun. Definitely got his full undivided attention. If I only had one cartridge for that platform I would probably have went with the 300bo. Happy hunting and safe shooting.
Guess I need to finally order that 300 blackout upper. Question for the next video: what do you think about 5.56 AK's?
@@ThePenn7 I have a hard time with AKs in anything but 7.62x39 and 5.45 lol.
@@thegundungeon I think the 5.56 aks will replace the 5.45 due to ammo non availability. My trouble is I want too many more guns and can't makeup my mind
@@ThePenn7 I’d say you’re right. Or even 300blk ak’s
The 300 BLK also uses a lot less powder
What upper in 300 blkout do y’all recommend? I’d be using it for hunting, so a 16 inch upper. PSA or BCA?
@@johnparker9139 both are going to do you about the same. Pick the one with the features you want
For the money, PSA is a good deal and their barrels are lighter and nitride. Having both I would go with PSA just for the weight savings alone.
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@@rogerwood5228 lol 😆
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