Whew, talk about a whirlwind historical overview. I only hope for peace and freedom for the people of Belarus from the brutality of today's government.
Snyder leads me to think that these vast forest/steppe regions were perpetually colonized by central Asian mounted warrior tribes, Scandinavian pirates, even Jewish exiles, with centuries-long cultural assimilation
Kingdom of Rus contained the lands of present day Ukraine and Belarus (Rhuthenia) with slavic populations. These were later incorporated into an new found lithuanian state after it's collapse by marriage or sword. Lithuanians were still pagans fighting crusaders from the Holy Roman Empire who were trying to convert them to christianity. The battles are well documented in Livonian chronicles and happened in lithuanian and samogitian lands which are now part of modern day Belarus and Lithuania.The names of the first rulers of Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Rus (Rhuthenia) and Samogitia are of Baltic origin. Of course as pagans lithuanian tribes didn't use writing so as a new state with time it has adopted the church slavonic (Ruthenian) language which were understood in the majority of the duchy. It was a multicultural, multireligious, multilingual state. Belarus is not Lithuania
Grand duchy of Lithuania - it is what belongs to history of Belarus, Belarus is based on Polotsk duchy. Later there was a union. The Statutes of Lithuania, published in three main editions 1529,1566, 1588, claim that a full name of this state was (in Latin language): Magnus Ducatus Lithvaniae, Rusiae, Samogitiae. Explanation: Lithvaniae - it's Belarus, Rusiae - it's Rus - means Ukraine, Samogitiae - it's the modern Lithuania. The independent Ukrainian Kingdom of Rus united with Grand duchy of Lithuania since 1362. *In details about Kyivan Rus and Lithuanian duchy here:* ukraine93.webnode.com.ua/
You base your theory on just a personal interpretation, Belarusians like you are hilarious. Just look at the main facts: all rulers until Vytautas were baltic pagans with baltic names. Every normal historian agrees that the Lithuanians (balts) conquered Belarus. Just try to make your own identity without stealing history from others, it’s depressing.
@@kasparas147 ethnicity of the ruler has no relevance to the state's character or origin, you have to be really uneducated in history if you think otherweise
@@lenheim what a strawman… but anyway. actually it does have relevance if we’re speaking about origin and the original creator was a baltic lithuanian. The one uneducated here is you. What i’m saying is that the baltic lithuanians created the GDL and conquered lands in the east. What happend with the integration of the local nobility is a different thing. You’re probably not familiar with the theory of litvinism. Byelorrusians claiming that all the dukes were ethnic byelorussians and that Lithuania was created by them.
So how does it have a relevance? There are countless of examples where origin of a ruler did not match the country's. Russian Empress was a pure German, French were the highest class in England for a long time etc. It decided nothing back then, such attributes like administrative, martial and diplomatic skills were deemed far more important. Moreover the interests of Dukes, especially starting from Gediminas were more centred on Belarus as it brought more contribution. The exact origin of the state or how it was created is unknown. There are only theories and the topic is disputable. But if you believe it to be like that, then tell me at least one battle where lithuanians conquered belarusian lands. Or tell me, if it was a pure baltic state, why would Vaisvilkas become an orthodox monk and reside in Novogrudok, a city, which according to Stryjkowski was a place of coronation, thus capital of Mindaugas? The state had lands of Belarus since the very moment of its creation in 1240-1250's. As for opinions which you've described, they are radical and are not popular in Belarus and especially belarusian historians. And for the future, *Belarusian is correct in English.
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Whew, talk about a whirlwind historical overview. I only hope for peace and freedom for the people of Belarus from the brutality of today's government.
Snyder leads me to think that these vast forest/steppe regions were perpetually colonized by central Asian mounted warrior tribes, Scandinavian pirates, even Jewish exiles, with centuries-long cultural assimilation
Kingdom of Rus contained the lands of present day Ukraine and Belarus (Rhuthenia) with slavic populations. These were later incorporated into an new found lithuanian state after it's collapse by marriage or sword. Lithuanians were still pagans fighting crusaders from the Holy Roman Empire who were trying to convert them to christianity. The battles are well documented in Livonian chronicles and happened in lithuanian and samogitian lands which are now part of modern day Belarus and Lithuania.The names of the first rulers of Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Rus (Rhuthenia) and Samogitia are of Baltic origin. Of course as pagans lithuanian tribes didn't use writing so as a new state with time it has adopted the church slavonic (Ruthenian) language which were understood in the majority of the duchy. It was a multicultural, multireligious, multilingual state. Belarus is not Lithuania
Is this a computer?
From Wikipedia verbatim See other sources for this region’s history: Yale Prof Tim Snyder or Anne Applebaum
Grand duchy of Lithuania - it is what belongs to history of Belarus, Belarus is based on Polotsk duchy. Later there was a union. The Statutes of Lithuania, published in three main editions 1529,1566, 1588, claim that a full name of this state was (in Latin language): Magnus Ducatus Lithvaniae, Rusiae, Samogitiae. Explanation: Lithvaniae - it's Belarus, Rusiae - it's Rus - means Ukraine, Samogitiae - it's the modern Lithuania. The independent Ukrainian Kingdom of Rus united with Grand duchy of Lithuania since 1362. *In details about Kyivan Rus and Lithuanian duchy here:* ukraine93.webnode.com.ua/
You base your theory on just a personal interpretation, Belarusians like you are hilarious. Just look at the main facts: all rulers until Vytautas were baltic pagans with baltic names. Every normal historian agrees that the Lithuanians (balts) conquered Belarus. Just try to make your own identity without stealing history from others, it’s depressing.
@@kasparas147Вы так говорите, будто мы у вас там замки п*зд*м
@@kasparas147 ethnicity of the ruler has no relevance to the state's character or origin, you have to be really uneducated in history if you think otherweise
@@lenheim what a strawman… but anyway. actually it does have relevance if we’re speaking about origin and the original creator was a baltic lithuanian. The one uneducated here is you. What i’m saying is that the baltic lithuanians created the GDL and conquered lands in the east. What happend with the integration of the local nobility is a different thing. You’re probably not familiar with the theory of litvinism. Byelorrusians claiming that all the dukes were ethnic byelorussians and that Lithuania was created by them.
So how does it have a relevance? There are countless of examples where origin of a ruler did not match the country's. Russian Empress was a pure German, French were the highest class in England for a long time etc. It decided nothing back then, such attributes like administrative, martial and diplomatic skills were deemed far more important. Moreover the interests of Dukes, especially starting from Gediminas were more centred on Belarus as it brought more contribution.
The exact origin of the state or how it was created is unknown. There are only theories and the topic is disputable. But if you believe it to be like that, then tell me at least one battle where lithuanians conquered belarusian lands. Or tell me, if it was a pure baltic state, why would Vaisvilkas become an orthodox monk and reside in Novogrudok, a city, which according to Stryjkowski was a place of coronation, thus capital of Mindaugas? The state had lands of Belarus since the very moment of its creation in 1240-1250's.
As for opinions which you've described, they are radical and are not popular in Belarus and especially belarusian historians.
And for the future, *Belarusian is correct in English.