MWGG 2021 Redesigns Criticism

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  • Опубликовано: 3 фев 2025

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  • @dead4sschannel
    @dead4sschannel  Год назад +440

    I don't like replacing pinned comments for stuff like this, but it's necessary this time. Anyways...
    Some of you guys are absolutely pathetic. Since you weren't smart enough to understand when I said this the first time... I do NOT hate Mars' redesign. I just slightly dislike it, but it's still better than a lot of the other ones. And no, her body itself isn't a problem at all. All bodies are beautiful! I can even relate to her since I'm a little big myself. Also, I literally said it's nice, which is a compliment, and my favorite redesign also happens to have a bigger body. It's hilarious how blind you guys are. Moving on...notice how I said the body _itself_ isn't a problem? That's because I'm just confused why she of all people has it. She's an alien, which means she's not from Earth. Why should she have anatomy that's normal to us Earthlings, then? I'm not saying she should have 4 tentacles, 5 eyes, 20 legs, or something like that, but the old unrealistic body type actually worked in her favor. It's not insane enough to make her look a bit ugly, but it's unusual enough to make her stand out from everyone else with normal bodies. She is the weird one, after all! Too bad you didn't think of that one, huh? As a summary, I'm not sorry you don't understand the basic concept of an alien, and I'm especially not sorry you can't accept that I can criticize anything I want. If you still can't accept this, get off my channel and do something more useful with your life.
    To all the normal people who might disagree but get where I'm coming from and respectfully voice their opinions, props to you. ^^

    • @brbiforgotmyhappines
      @brbiforgotmyhappines Год назад +16

      They're all humans? (I never watched the show) I thought they were all kind of aliens (planets) as humans things

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +26

      @brbiforgotmyhappines Seemingly, yes. We don't know for sure, but she sticks out from the crowd, so that's what I believe. Also, MWGG isn't a show. At least...not yet. 😉

    • @Nobody.thatyouknow
      @Nobody.thatyouknow Год назад +6

      Aa don't worry! I loved reading your thoughts and opinions about the redesigns, in the video. I personally am not one of those said people. :) I tooootally get where you're coming from with Mars, and honestly, every other character, as well. You really payed attention to their design, personality, character in general and rated the redesigns based on how well they fit with the characters' well... Character. Y'know? Good job on that!!

    • @taffycandyton
      @taffycandyton Год назад +14

      This seems a bit harsh, I personally like mars new body type, and if she’s just an alien like you said then she shouldn’t have a skinny body either, she should have a blob body and tentacles, cause I highly doubt aliens have just a skinny body. No offense though it’s your opinion and you can interpret mars how you want, although I am sorry if your receiving harassment for a bit of miswording.

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +4

      @@taffycandyton Well, like I said, the old body wasn't too extreme to make her look kind of ugly. However, if you think a blob body _or_ tentacles could have worked, that's alright. It's Lauren Faust. She could probably make it appealing...I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
      Thanks for respecting my opinion, though.

  • @crispywafernuts
    @crispywafernuts Год назад +1421

    when i saw the moon’s redesign, i knew we LOST HARD… the oversimplified design doesn’t work with most of them, and some of the outfits look just so bland. maybe they were going for more animation friendly designs but the old designs had so much charm and detail and it’s pretty heartbreaking to see them turned into this 💔

    • @Spamlum
      @Spamlum Год назад +125

      I honestly think the original designs were animation friendly as is. They're not too overly detailed and and the proportions are exaggerated so smaller details would be easier to draw. If the show were to happen, it would probably be rigged like how FIM was, so details such as Saturn's hoops would be less of a hassle than if they were to be drawn frame by frame.
      I think the redesigns were made to cater to a younger audience? The rounded out art style and less overall edge seems to lean into that, but it just ended up losing a lot of its charm. Appealing to a younger audience doesn't mean getting rid of cool details and outfits (Especially true with Mars).

    • @crispywafernuts
      @crispywafernuts Год назад +29

      @@Spamlum i definitely agree, i think pluto’s less defined skulls and mercury’s longer hair are the most prominent examples. and i’m also guessing that these were made with the intent of selling merchandise of? mainly because of the fact that mercury’s hair is longer and saturn’s missing nose ring but yeah, it seems like a major step backwards in terms of their initial designs. i’m sure younger kids would have loved their original designs too

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +36

      ​​@@SpamlumI 100% agree with what you said about the simplification, but I do believe more complicated details like The Moon or Jupiter's hair, etc. may or may not be pushing it. (The new hair still sucks though)
      Edit: Also Pluto and maaybe Saturn and Milky Way. Wow, I didn't take a lot of the girls into account lol

    • @mr.chokesondik6538
      @mr.chokesondik6538 Год назад +2

      She looks easier to anime, so I don’t mind

    • @largepennies72
      @largepennies72 3 месяца назад

      Idk why everyone was talking about the Moon I always thought she looked the least bad

  • @pixelninja577
    @pixelninja577 Год назад +1368

    A note: You can still make chubby characters look sharp and sleek! Just because the character's body type is rounder doesnt really mean everything else has to be too. You can even stylize the body to fit better!

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +139

      THANK YOU 🙏

    • @chiaraddd
      @chiaraddd Год назад +13

      thissss

    • @frannygalactica9945
      @frannygalactica9945 Год назад +37

      Total drama island. I think...

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +5

      @@frannygalactica9945 Wdym exactly?

    • @frannygalactica9945
      @frannygalactica9945 Год назад +51

      @@dead4sschannel Never watched total drama island. Only saw a few clips and pictures. I like the bold art, but the story isn't really something I'm interested in. Art wise tho...

  • @Infeabblevampire_0292
    @Infeabblevampire_0292 Год назад +877

    I think that’s the true definition of “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”.

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +93

      Yeah. From what I've seen, no one even asked for these redesigns.

    • @Infeabblevampire_0292
      @Infeabblevampire_0292 Год назад +48

      @@dead4sschannel I kinda hate when companies do stuff out of their minds and turns out downright bad.

    • @kj6053
      @kj6053 Год назад +19

      @@Infeabblevampire_0292 Lauren Faust isn’t a company.

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +16

      @@kj6053 Yeah, but they mean companies in general.

    • @chaus1ku
      @chaus1ku 11 месяцев назад +9

      Exactly like???
      Their designs were fine just the way they were tbh 😕

  • @no1legobatmanfan
    @no1legobatmanfan Год назад +667

    taking away Mars’ orange coat and Jupiter’s bell bottom pants will never fail to make me punch a hole in the wall

    • @ryuspiritvtuber
      @ryuspiritvtuber 9 месяцев назад +28

      Isn’t Mars fashion style is wacky and goofy? Cause I don’t see that on the redesign

    • @Heads.in.the.clouds.
      @Heads.in.the.clouds. 5 месяцев назад +7

      She feels more like an art teacher

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  5 месяцев назад +4

      @Heads.in.the.clouds. For real!

    • @Heads.in.the.clouds.
      @Heads.in.the.clouds. 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@dead4sschannel listen while I love elementary art teachers and I bet she is sweet she is not really an alien it just looks like she got really into spirit week 😭

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  5 месяцев назад

      @@Heads.in.the.clouds. Yeah. :/

  • @unofficialmilkyway6986
    @unofficialmilkyway6986 Год назад +1088

    Finally someone who actually came forward to explain all the flaws! It's very agreeable that the redesigns seem to lack charm and are far less energetic than the old designs. But some good new details remain. I might make a video where I "fix" the redesigns.

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +38

      Honestly, I was thinking of RE-redesigning them too! My pfp is even a RE-redesign of The Moon (well, she's basically just the original)! Though I decided not to continue since I'm lazy and I am a bit attached lol. I'm looking forward to seeing your ideas!
      I stopped after Saturn whose drawing is honestly my favorite

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +22

      It's funny because you inspired me to make this video :)

  • @HoshiOw0
    @HoshiOw0 Год назад +1763

    I have no idea who those characters are, but I know that the Moon was ROBBED

    • @-_abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz_-
      @-_abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz_- Год назад +155

      Same, I thought the ones below were the new ones cause they looked better

    • @MaybeMish
      @MaybeMish Год назад +119

      Same, I don't know what this show is but I feel like she could be my favorite character... But... OH MY GOD, WHAT DID THEY DO TO HER HAIR AND HER CLOTHES. 😭😭Before she looked more elegant 🤧

    • @whyamihere6522
      @whyamihere6522 Год назад +83

      Yes moon was robbed but so was Uranus she went from stylish books smart to stereotypical geek

    • @Ewnothank
      @Ewnothank Год назад +36

      The way her hair became a mop like the downgrade is real in this one 😭

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +68

      @Iwasgoofingaround OOOH you just reminded me that the redesigned Milky Way's hair looks like a mat _and_ a mop 😭

  • @sunnydayss___
    @sunnydayss___ Год назад +176

    de-yassification at its core 😭

  • @ploonette222
    @ploonette222 Год назад +227

    They also should've kept the big ass roller skates, they were iconic.

  • @Shivery
    @Shivery Год назад +1948

    I really MISS cartoon styles when it has sharp outlines and great outstanding sillioette. Im just sick of seeing styles that look like it came cal arts esque these days.

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +163

      So true. When will people learn to stand out again?

    • @kawakawaii
      @kawakawaii Год назад +29

      i agree

    • @W1z4rd_L1z4rd
      @W1z4rd_L1z4rd Год назад +49

      Then rise of the tmnt is your cup of tea

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +17

      @@W1z4rd_L1z4rd Oooh I've seen a bit of that before

    • @adrielleakuryo
      @adrielleakuryo Год назад +63

      Dang, why did you have to bring up the "Cal Arts style" argument, that was ages back.

  • @winonajohnson3349
    @winonajohnson3349 Год назад +270

    Dude, the big handed/big foot body design of the originals is so perfect for a show where everyone wear roller skates it's ABSURD. The skates are so small in the redesigns, it makes them feel more like an afterthought, rather than a feature uniting the characters. I mean, they're planets for pete's sake! The skates hinted at their revolving nature, made the show's gimmick apparent at a first glance "they represent planets, they skate around like planets revolve". Simple, elegant, beautiful.
    Not so much now.

  • @cheetoseen
    @cheetoseen Год назад +202

    As much as I love Lauren Faust works, these redesigns don't sit right with me. I don't know, the old art style had this special charm for me, but also the old designs seemed much more detailed and related to the planets they were originally intended to represent. In my opinion, Mars got the worst one, her outfit has lost so much of the color palette that originally made her unique and matched her personality. I don't hate the new designs though, some of them look really cool and have some interesting ideas, but overall old designs win in almost every aspect.

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +15

      Yup. I still can't wrap my head around the fact that she's the same person who made the original designs, plus her other amazing work. However, the redesigns were a collab with another animator, so maybe that played a part in it. I'm really not sure, but either way, I agree with you.

    • @Heyyy_girlll_heyyyy
      @Heyyy_girlll_heyyyy 6 месяцев назад +1

      The old ones are better in my opinion but they all are great

    • @eglol
      @eglol 5 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah, I agree.
      Mars is cute in the redesign but she's also less detailed and doesn't quite represent her personality and traits as well, her design (hair, clothes) should've been more spikey still.

  • @Sorrowe
    @Sorrowe Год назад +397

    I just feel like now they all look so basic..
    Like they lost 90% of their personality, and it feels like they’re going for an audience of 5 year olds with these simple designs.

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +20

      True! Also your pfp 💀

    • @Sorrowe
      @Sorrowe Год назад +9

      @@dead4sschannel I know my pfp is absolutely stunning 😍

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +10

      @@Sorrowe Pfp of the year 🤩

  • @penntopaper9305
    @penntopaper9305 Год назад +139

    moon has got to be the most devastating one. she looked like a GODDESS in her old design. now she just kinda looks like some random mf

  • @a.g.7880
    @a.g.7880 Год назад +170

    One big issue I notice with all the new designs is how unoticeable the roallerskates have become.
    The old designs all had the roallerskates very big and visibles. The new ones might as well have regular shoes...

  • @imovedtoanotheracc
    @imovedtoanotheracc Год назад +206

    Im just gonna say that i NEED the pink skates and ESPECIALLY the sleeves back on mars. Those orangish-red sleeves made mars's color palette a lot more diverse and it was good to look at. They also gave off the artsy vibe of her personality!
    Overall, i feel like they are trying to make the designs more child-like, like most new cartoons, for example by changing the face analogies or the lipstick and also by making the edges smoother. I personally like the more "edgier" edges but i guess nowadays most find smoother edges appealing in cartoons

    • @yourlocaldemon2195
      @yourlocaldemon2195 Год назад +11

      Another note for Mars, orange would make so much sense to have in her palette since the surface of Mars is that dusty orange color!

  • @oop5488
    @oop5488 Год назад +88

    I liked how big and chunky the roller skates were on the old designs. It just added so much

  • @ZOthousand
    @ZOthousand Год назад +292

    The Galaxy Girl redesigns for me are an incredibly mixed bag
    Really hoping official 3.5/4.0 designs will be made someday

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +27

      Same. It's hard when some are good, bad, or just mediocre. I would love 3.5/4.0 designs too. I've been having such a hard time accepting the fact that we may never get the old designs in all their detailed glory. 😢

  • @A88mph
    @A88mph Год назад +154

    I think the issue for me is that 3.0 feels like yet another IP starting to go down the "Minimalism drain" (Especially Moon).

  • @star7communicator
    @star7communicator Год назад +168

    These are all lacking the signature style and personality that we all have come to love about Lauren Faust's art. I get that she's trying to incorporate more body types, but these designs just break the flow of what the original was going for just to match what modern cartoons are doing.

  • @Custardmaru
    @Custardmaru Год назад +133

    In the early design they all look like a superheroes, from their look and their accesorries that shows more cooler things each of the character. But the new design are more describing that they are your friends and more drawen casually (sorry for my broken english)

  • @aurellacharnick7128
    @aurellacharnick7128 Год назад +117

    The new designs sucked all of the flavour and personallity out 😭

  • @arowwhead8490
    @arowwhead8490 Год назад +120

    9:00
    My biggest issue with Uranus is her eyes. Why are they so squinty??? Her mouth is also way too small, yes, but the eyes! I can't help but think she looks like a stereotype of an Asian girl which kinda makes it worse because Uranus's whole thing is that she's smart

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +31

      OMG yes! I wished I said that earlier because I felt the same way. I really hate how squinted her eyes are. Not as expressive and almost as bad as the removal of The Great Red Spot!

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +16

      I swear I try to like the redesigns but I keep finding stuff not to like. I've considered making a part 2.

    • @renga9764
      @renga9764 Год назад +20

      it looks like they squished her eyes to fit in her glasses

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +8

      @@renga9764 It does. It's so annoying and pointless.

    • @arowwhead8490
      @arowwhead8490 Год назад +8

      They also somehow made Uranus's skirt shorter than it already looked before

  • @weird_person7501
    @weird_person7501 Год назад +75

    They used to look like teenagers (16 - 19) and now most of them look like tweens… (10 - 12) and a big problem I had is that it almost looks like it’s trying to imitate the power puff girls style, I don’t know if it’s just a coincidence or not. Also does anyone else think that the newer Uranus looks like the “smart Asian” stereotype? With the old one it was kinda subtle or you could just think she had slimmer eyes but the newer version is shoving it in your face that she’s asian.

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +13

      Rereading this comment, I personally find that the Uranus redesign resembles more of the stereotype than Venus. It also doesn't help that she's a straight A student, so...
      Otherwise, I agree that Venus' eyes are WAY too slanted and detailed. I hate how so little effort is put into the rest of the body, and then the eyes are all "GIVE ME ATTENTION!!"

    • @weird_person7501
      @weird_person7501 Год назад +4

      @@dead4sschannelI just realized now that I meant to put Uranus not Venus lol 😅

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +1

      @@weird_person7501 Oooh! That's alr ^^

  • @Kitkatsura101
    @Kitkatsura101 Год назад +61

    Overall, I feel like the main issue is that alot of the character and flavor was lost in the redesigns.

  • @L0v3buggg
    @L0v3buggg Год назад +43

    I genuinely miss the twiggy designs because thats what made them so 2010s and special
    Will miss the old ones but atleast they are getting recondition years later

  • @MelaninSweetie
    @MelaninSweetie Год назад +100

    I’m so glad I’m not the only who knew about this and I am sadden by some of these changes done to these characters.

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +9

      Same. I felt like so many people were blindly praising the redesigns without realizing how little sense they make.

    • @MelaninSweetie
      @MelaninSweetie Год назад +8

      @@dead4sschannel Yes!
      I knew about Milky Way and the Galaxy Girls years ago and finally came back after more the 12 years. And I came back to see those weird redesigns?
      Some are ok in little details but I feel as if they changed the characters to reflect the times we’re in.

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +4

      @@MelaninSweetie Wow! A true MWGG veteran! You dropped this 👑
      In terms of modernization, I'm with you. Something about the fashion doesn't feel very extreme and unique anymore. It gives a look into how bad fashion has become.
      I know this is bad, but one reason I wish the show got accepted is so we would never get those redesigns, like, ever. I would rather have designs with no body diversity that make sense rather than diverse ones that make no sense at all. I understand that some redesigns are okay...but that's how they are at best.

    • @MelaninSweetie
      @MelaninSweetie Год назад +1

      @@dead4sschannel Right?!
      I love that even though I wear dark colored clothing and that my main vibe girls are moon, pluto, saturn, jupiter, mars, and eris. I still love the designs of all the girls especially with how their names correspond with mythology.

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +1

      @@MelaninSweetie Mhm! (sorry for the late reply)

  • @queen.of.hatred02
    @queen.of.hatred02 Год назад +71

    I think the Mars redesign is adorable, and as a design on it's own it's incredible! The way the colors are spread through the outfit are amazing and her body type compliments her hair shape wonderfully. However it conveys absolutely no information about the character, in fact it portrays wrong information. As you said she looks like a kindergartner teacher, and that's just not Mars at all. The old design had a beautiful use of color theory and subtle details to portray her personality. Honestly, I think Mars' old look would be adorable in the new artstyle with the new body type.

    • @ghastlygavin
      @ghastlygavin Год назад +16

      As someone who has never even heard of Milky Way and the Galaxy Girls until this video appeared in my recommendeds, I liked how 'spunky(?)' the old Mars design looked, with her fuzzy orange jacket and crop top
      Her redesign is alr on its own but kind of a dial back compared to the old

    • @decrepitdebauchery
      @decrepitdebauchery Год назад +4

      right?! i can see her old design perfectly on her new body! i dont get why they had to make her look so basic

  • @PrettyBomberHead
    @PrettyBomberHead 6 месяцев назад +20

    Old style and outfits + New body types = PERFECT!

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  6 месяцев назад +7

      YES! Besides a few, I felt like the outfit changes were SO unnecessary. ^^

  • @Rozemariee
    @Rozemariee Год назад +36

    mars and the moon’s new look hurt me physically and mentally because they are my favorites 😭

    • @Rozemariee
      @Rozemariee Год назад +4

      And I don’t want to sound like a giant karen, but I really like the sharpness of the older designs, like Pluto with round shapes does NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT sit right with for me :/
      Saturns rings ARE GOONE NOOOOAOoooOoOoOoOooOOo
      And I really dislike the removal of Mars’s sort of puffy orange sleeves, they were the reason why I liked mars in the first place, because her clothes were exotic
      Venus isn’t that bad in my opinion tbh
      Jupiters pants from the older design kinda fit her because she’s supposed to be a hippie i think… and the red mark on her head needs to come back.
      I also want Uranus’s sleeves back
      But I absolutely LOOOVOVCEEEE the new design for the sun because it matches her personality more in my opinion
      Mercury and Milky Way were so-so for me
      The robbed everything from the moon 😭 WHYYYYYYyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy…….

  • @drawnwithlove3499
    @drawnwithlove3499 Год назад +37

    1. The loss of big, chunky shoes to teensy little feet feels so counterintuitive. It's a show about girls who skate around, and you're gonna make the skates the least prominent part of the design? Part of the reason why these designs are so loved is because of the focus on their skates. It could've been a niche show about roller skating that maybe only a certain demographic would love; but in a world where modern animation keeps trying to appeal to EVERYONE, this would've be a nice change of pace. (Also, chunky shoes are a fashion trend rn, why didn't they take note of that? The iconic skate designs would've made good merchandise too).
    2. The new artstyle looks too childish. The original art and designs looked more geared towards tweens to younger teens, but now it looks like it's for 5 year olds. There's also a loss in shape language and asymmetry with the designs, so now everything feels too uniform and 'corporate-y'. Uranus suffers the worse from the 'childification' of the designs, she looks more like a 12 year old rather than the 'college student' look she had previously.
    3. SHOW DON'T TELL is absolutely the key to fixing these designs. There were so many elements that pertained to certain characters' personalities, design inspirations, etc. I'm an artist myself and little details like Jupiter 'Great Red Spot' and Moon's hair go a long way. It's sad to see this kind of stuff sacrificed for the sake of easier animation, but does unique and interesting character design need to be sacrificed for this too?

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +1

      This has to be one of the best brief but effective argument comments I've seen so far 😊

  • @Hatsune-Miku_Fan
    @Hatsune-Miku_Fan Год назад +23

    I think I'm biased because im a huge fan of sharp angles and sharp cartoon styles so just having everything ROUNDED out made it look bad immediately even if it was a fine reDesign

  • @rumptsss
    @rumptsss Год назад +34

    I think personally that the main problem is in artstyle. It became less dynamic, edgy and energetic, so that's why I got the feeling that new designs are much "softer" and less charismatic than the old ones. And this style doesn't go well with some Galaxy Girls' personalities(Like Pluto, for example)

  • @S4kana_Sakana
    @S4kana_Sakana Год назад +34

    WHY DID THEY MADE THEM ROUND? REGARDLESS OF BODY TYPE THEY CAN STILL BE SHARP!!!! AND WHAT'S WITH THE POSES??? THEY'RE SO BASIC. BRING THE OLD DESIGNS BACK

  • @RoyaliaM.PJSKFANUNIT
    @RoyaliaM.PJSKFANUNIT Год назад +81

    4:27 I dont like how Mercury looked more calmer and more caring, Sorta like she WAS caring. Her hair that went longer was a issue because Mercury, well doesnt care about anything like that. And she looked WAY too bland. Like she doesnt have a personality. Old design Mercury however, Was more expressive, and resembled the uncaring competitive childhood stereotype PERFECTLY. And they made old design Mercurys ear-wings into wing EARRINGS! I liked the fantasy feel to her, and they completely removed that!
    Positives: I liked how they removed her lipstick. They feel more natural, and felt more sporty.
    I LOVED how they made Mercurys tall rollerskates into more sporty ones. I mean, you can still see the little circles but they were still so goood!!

    • @drawnwithlove3499
      @drawnwithlove3499 Год назад +8

      I'm personally miffed about the change from short hair to longer hair. What is wrong with giving female characters short hair that isn't a bob? Literally the one female character in kids animation with short hair that I can name is Gwen Tennyson. I really wish more fem characters in kids animation had short, pixie cut hair.
      I also feel like some of the changes were made so that Mercury didn't look too similar to Rainbow Dash, but giving her longer hair completely ruins it. She legitimately just looks like an alternative Equestria Girls RD

    • @Vitalityyy881
      @Vitalityyy881 5 месяцев назад +2

      Mercury's redesign kinda looks like Chell from Portal

  • @reyahhhh5519
    @reyahhhh5519 Год назад +26

    Ngl Teen Titans Go and PowerPuff girls really impacted the industry more than people think 😭

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +2

      By The Powerpuff Girls, do you mean the reboot? The original is way better.

    • @reyahhhh5519
      @reyahhhh5519 Год назад +3

      @@dead4sschannel yes the reboot! It feels as if most cartoons go for that look or they try to be cocomelon and do 3D animation (aka the new Dora) I miss the small details cartoons had, everything feels to be getting simpler and I don’t think that’s a good thing…

  • @dead4sschannel
    @dead4sschannel  Год назад +259

    The new Venus would be great at Peekaboo

  • @Merenq
    @Merenq Год назад +125

    I very much agree with this opinion. To me every redesign looks so... childish (?) and bland. The Sun and Saturn were so good, though. Also kinda like the eye shape for Neptune

  • @aalice-Animation
    @aalice-Animation 6 месяцев назад +11

    I think one of my biggest problems with the redesigns was the artstyle change, I feel like the shaper style and the chunkier roller skates made them feel a lot more unique and cool and now even for the few characters designs who didn’t change that much it still feels worse because the more basic artstyle makes it constantly feel like they’re missing something.

  • @kamikamkamm
    @kamikamkamm 6 месяцев назад +11

    I will never get over how mars was absolutely ROBBED

  • @PreciseSpace
    @PreciseSpace Год назад +27

    I agree with you! I think the only redesign I actually like better than the original is the sun, otherwise I prefer all the originals. Its nice that they have more diverse body types, but in general its disappointing how less detailed they all are and how watered down they look. The style is so much rounder than before and they all look much younger. The original feels more like a series for teens, and the new designs look distinctly like a show for little kids. Anyone can have their opinions about the designs, but I totally agree with your takes.

  • @R4INB0T
    @R4INB0T Год назад +9

    Mars and moon designs….. i have no words to express my sadness, I’m am sadder than the moon now…

  • @wygolvillage2637
    @wygolvillage2637 Год назад +7

    The shape language on most of the older designs feels so much stronger, same with the fashion. They're just too oversimplified.

  • @vibrantglitch5722
    @vibrantglitch5722 Год назад +31

    i liked milky ways og design better, the way the hair is cut looks more unique and gives a more interesting silhouette imo. also the og poses were a lot more expressive and feels more connected the way that shes actually looking at the viewer. i fully agree with your critique of the new style doesnt give off the same edge and it feels like another nickelodeon show in that aspect, looks like it was a knockoff steven universe.
    as for the sun, i feel like it was *alright.* i honestly prefer the personality the og gave with her being bright, warm, funny, and comforting. the redesign just doesnt give off the same energy.
    NOW FOR MOON.. my favorite character with my least favorite redesign. they got rid of her signature dress...they ruined her hair..she looks like a side character who showed up twice and cried. the og gives off more fluttershh, kind, quiet, the redesign gives off more over dramatic, too sensitive and its just not the same.
    not much to say abt mercury, but i just cant really get behind the new design..it looks wrong??

    • @vibrantglitch5722
      @vibrantglitch5722 Год назад +1

      getting a bit tired of editing this but eyshsjshjs

  • @sterling.1538
    @sterling.1538 Год назад +9

    I like all the old ones better but I do enjoy seeing more body type differences.

  • @dead4sschannel
    @dead4sschannel  Год назад +42

    You know what? Screw 1:03! I appreciate the diversity but I loved her noodle body 😭

  • @Moemoepoin
    @Moemoepoin Год назад +30

    What they just did is stupid, since Milkyway only got popular because of their gorgeous designs! They robbed us.

  • @AppleCinderr
    @AppleCinderr Год назад +14

    Mars is the RED PLANET and in the new design theres LITERALLY not a single bit of red or orange in her new design? I get that she’s supposed to be an alien, but they did that perfectly in her old design with the orange jacket, which not only fit her personality perfectly but also gives her something that resembles the actual planet.
    I also dislike the cutesy-ness(?) of all the new designs, and especially the big chunky skates. The skates were what tied everything together but now they just look like shoes with wheels

  • @R0S1ED
    @R0S1ED 6 месяцев назад +7

    they went from panty and stocking with gaterbelt + monster high to being powerpuff girls who had bath fashion sense

  • @Lovangeline
    @Lovangeline Год назад +7

    I loved how each part of the design had a motif or purpose to it, like mercury's metallic clothes to represent the literal element, or how the lightning earrings and symbol for jupiter represent the god, but these redesigns negate almost all of that. There isn't as much thought into the designs are they used to be.

  • @RemiWasntHere
    @RemiWasntHere Год назад +15

    MOON?? WHAT HAPPENED TO MOON 😭😭 look im no great artist, but i feel like the old version of moon looks like the improvised version of the new one 😭😭😭

    • @RemiWasntHere
      @RemiWasntHere Год назад +11

      Actually, after seeing all these "redesigns" to the end.. ALL the old one looks like a redesign from the new version 💀💀

  • @fishbxne
    @fishbxne Год назад +24

    The most upsetting one for me was Saturn. How are you going to remove Saturn’s rings?? That’s practically what makes Saturn Saturn 😭

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +5

      EXACTLY! I STRUGGLE to think of reasons why they're completely gone now. Like, how does she have so many to the point where she has a BELLY BUTTON ring, but now she has NONE? There's literally no reason for this. It's so dumb and frustrating.

  • @lossofdisgust
    @lossofdisgust Год назад +4

    i really liked how some of the characters had bigger bodies but in some cases I just didn't, I think the only body ignorance network that really captivated me was the sun

  • @juicebox_art6503
    @juicebox_art6503 Год назад +13

    Man most of these redesigns just kinda make me sad, not that they're necessarily bad, they just don't have the same charm as the old ones, they feel sorta bland. Plus I really miss characters with angles, idk there's just something appealing about sharp angles on cartoons.

  • @choux8372
    @choux8372 Год назад +15

    My problem with Uranus is that I'm not getting any spacey, cosmic vibes from her design. She's really cute, but she looks like she fits in more in a slice-of-life cartoon

  • @prismstar438
    @prismstar438 Год назад +4

    I think the one that suffered worst from the art style change is Pluto. Given her look as like an edgy rock girl, having all of her edges softened and rounded really hurt the look.

  • @ShinnyTovs
    @ShinnyTovs 6 месяцев назад +8

    what i don't like is THE ROLLER SKATES BEING SMALLER😭

  • @Floofypan
    @Floofypan Год назад +6

    Dawg. I was 50 seconds in the video before I realised the designs on the bottom were the _old_ ones. I thought they were the new ones!
    I feel that her poses in the old one were definitely more energetic and immediately caught my eye.

  • @MedioPlague
    @MedioPlague Год назад +7

    Wow, I didn’t know that there was a Milky way fandom, and also never knew about the 2021 redesigns

  • @FRANKEN_BEL_555
    @FRANKEN_BEL_555 Год назад +10

    I miss the old pluto 😢

    • @Destr0yedbyPlut0_
      @Destr0yedbyPlut0_ 6 месяцев назад +3

      i miss her sharp janky looking hair, it really added to the whole punk rock aesthetic she had

  • @Hoivess
    @Hoivess Год назад +13

    these criticisms are so real!! i think the new designs are nice but they definitely feel diluted compared to the old ones. also i don't get why a lot of redesign/reboot designs are just rounder in general (clone high, powerpuff girls)? it feels like character designers have become allergic to sharp angles
    i do like mars a lot though, even though it doesnt really fit with the personality i still think she looks cute :)

  • @kawakawaii
    @kawakawaii Год назад +13

    4:45 even the captions are scared

  • @-TWOS_BIGGEST_FAN_EVER-
    @-TWOS_BIGGEST_FAN_EVER- Год назад +14

    Redesigned mars looks like se would be the mom of mars!

  • @WaverVr
    @WaverVr 6 месяцев назад +6

    Man I miss the massive big roller skates:(

  • @the.axolotlgirl
    @the.axolotlgirl 6 месяцев назад +6

    I really like it when stuff has sharp edges 10:29
    And usually shark edges display stuff like being edgy or energetic which Pluto is so the sharp lines need to come back for her

  • @Ilovcomputers
    @Ilovcomputers Год назад +4

    Unrelated but i LOVE how this video is edited !

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад

      Thanks! A comment like this is quite refreshing! ^^

  • @knifekisser
    @knifekisser 2 месяца назад +1

    okay im late asf but i personally love the sharper style SO much. its so early 2000s esc and i LIVE for it.

  • @iHonestlyDontknow33
    @iHonestlyDontknow33 6 месяцев назад +5

    I’m not saying every girl had to be skinny but the skinny legs with big roller skates made them look weird in a good way.

  • @RoyaliaM.PJSKFANUNIT
    @RoyaliaM.PJSKFANUNIT Год назад +34

    4:50 I absolutely agree with this one! I dont like how its so unbalanced.
    Negatives:
    The dress in redesign Venus looks so bland. I mean, Yeah old design Venus also had a bland one, But the heart in the dress in old design Venus made it have lot of depth then it should be.
    Venus’s eyes are so.. SLANTED! It looks like she has a eye disease. Old design Venus had more straight eyes that really added to her design as it feels alot more graceful, Like.. she was calm..
    I absolutely hated how her earrings are so big! Just like the eyes, It feels unbalanced. It’s literally bigger then the body!
    Positives:
    None. Literally, None. Im sorry but it’s just too horrible.

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +2

      I agree with the positives! Originally some designs weren't going to have positives at all, but I felt like it was too rude so I used "they didn't change that much" as a placeholder.
      Venus - 0/10

  • @queen.of.hatred02
    @queen.of.hatred02 Год назад +13

    Honestly, I quite like the Jupiter redesign. The unique head shape helps personify her more and makes her stand out. The dress helps a lot to make her less lopsided, as I noticed that in the original she's very top-heavy, something bad for a roller skater. I also love how it makes the Jupiter pattern stand out more and isn't as awkward and bright, where it was sort of cluttered being right on top of her roller skates, a bright area of the design. I do agree the hair looks worse though, it's extremely flat.

  • @dead4sschannel
    @dead4sschannel  Год назад +23

    About 7:01, I forgot to take the bottom of Jupiter's pants into consideration. They're fine too since they don't take up that much space either. I also forgot to exclude The Sun, Uranus, and again, Jupiter when it came to clothing symbols.

  • @chiaraddd
    @chiaraddd Год назад +10

    in terms of fashion and hair expression, all of these are a pretty major downgrade

  • @rainbowcat26
    @rainbowcat26 Год назад +9

    3:06 yes the moon
    as a moon lover I think I agree the opinion a little bit bit I miss her old design
    BUTTTTTT I don't like the new design like, seriously the new design is look bad because i don't like it because the hair need some details like shading the bangs or something and te poses are not dramatic poses like seriously you need to make it MORE DRAMATIC than the old pose
    (i don't hate on the old design i love the old design)
    and the dress is not dramatic is just a cute little bit dramatic thing or something and btw my opinion, the old design is BETTER than new design because i miss the old designs man... :( but anyways thanks for reading and nice video btw.
    edit: I agree we need the lipstick back

    • @rainbowcat26
      @rainbowcat26 Год назад +2

      I keep editing my comment cuz idk like changing the opinion or something lol

    • @rainbowcat26
      @rainbowcat26 Год назад +2

      but no hate please and thank you and my opinions are can be rude or nice or anything else like something so yeah anyways I enjoyed the video a lot.

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +1

      ​@@rainbowcat26It's alr! Btw, there's this weird glitch on my screen where the heart on your comment disappears when you edit it so I'll keep track of that

    • @rainbowcat26
      @rainbowcat26 Год назад +2

      ​@@dead4sschanneltysm tho :)
      I feel bad because you a virus on your screen but, it's okay :)

  • @chloedits-ou4kc
    @chloedits-ou4kc 4 месяца назад +3

    6:13 “why would a literal alien need a realistic body type?” LITERALLY THATS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS WITH THE NEW MONSTER HIGH DESIGNS THEYRE NOT EVEN HUMANS IT DOESNT MATTER😭

  • @Miauuuuuu-q5q
    @Miauuuuuu-q5q 5 месяцев назад +3

    PLUTO WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOUR HAIR MY GIRL 😓

  • @chocostar_s
    @chocostar_s Год назад +75

    For me they ruined character designs. They look adorable as original ones. Ik nothing specially changed but style is disturbed and ruined.

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад +14

      Ikr? I wish I said this in the video but the redesigns are WAY too simple for SPACE, the most complicated thing ever

  • @selkiefluff
    @selkiefluff Год назад +2

    It would be cool to see them in the new artstyle, because it does have potential for more expressive silhouettes than just monster high-esque copy and paste lineup of tall, thin girls. Some styles and hairs could be updated, but I wish they weren't so drastically changed, like Moon's slit skirt turning into a dress etc.

  • @nipioba
    @nipioba Год назад +8

    Something I don’t like which I feel that was quite important for recognizing the show was the roller skates, in the older design, the roller skates had the essence and influence of the show, but in the new design, they are almost unnoticeable and look like toys. Also, is it me or does the new design of Uranus look like Edna from The Incredibles? (😭)

  • @GhostinaSpell
    @GhostinaSpell Год назад +7

    I don’t even know much about what this is but I saw all the video and now I’m intrigued and I think I found a new hyper fixation lol This video is really well explained and made understand little bits of the characters I don’t have the context of, wich is great! I’m sad this aren’t the best designs Lauren Faust has created though, I hope her and the team can actually hear the criticism because I think the new designs have a lot of potential but clearly need fixing :3 Great video ❤️

  • @baibiebaibea9740
    @baibiebaibea9740 Год назад +4

    ooh i def. like the old sharper style better! its more detailed too and the new redesign probably seems easier to animate. i also have a feeling the redesign seems cuter and more trendy in terms of toys etc.

  • @laaaarch
    @laaaarch Год назад +4

    Jupiter looking like a popsicle stick in her redesign 💀

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад

      IKKK 😭
      Her redesign somehow looks less realistic

    • @laaaarch
      @laaaarch Год назад +1

      She looks more like a caterpillar

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  Год назад

      ​@@laaaarch Waiting for *The Very Hungry Jupiter* to drop 🔥

    • @laaaarch
      @laaaarch Год назад +1

      Lol

  • @PaperPlane675
    @PaperPlane675 6 месяцев назад +5

    dude i miss the old legs 😭 THE SKATES USED TO BE SO COOL

  • @vineria-885
    @vineria-885 6 месяцев назад +6

    Old designs give nostalgia. Now they are just. Kinda blank. Also their eyes. They dont have much expression. Although i do like saturns redesign even if its nothing like the planet.

  • @itswhimsy3006
    @itswhimsy3006 6 месяцев назад +3

    I think the problem is that the original designs were supposed to be dolls, with tons of small details to set each character apart while the updated ones feel like they were optimized for animation and so a lot of the details were lost.
    Its good they wanted to introduce diversity in body types (this issue was present in the original because they were meant to be dolls and doll lines typically have one or two molds they use for every character and then add details on top, both bc its cheaper and also so dolls can share clothes) but i feel like a lot of the charm was lost by switching to rounder less detailed style.

  • @rofidel178
    @rofidel178 6 месяцев назад +4

    the older poses were more exaggerated and dynamic, these went kinda lost in the redesigns, but I can see how they went simplified, looks like they could fit right in an animated show

  • @thegoldenplum
    @thegoldenplum 5 месяцев назад +3

    4:31
    IT NEEDS TO BE ABOUT...
    20% COOLER

  • @starstorm1267
    @starstorm1267 4 месяца назад +3

    11:55 “2014 wasn’t that long ago” 2014 was 10 years ago…

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  4 месяца назад

      Well, the 2010s were the last full decade we've had compared to the other ones, so it's more recent than the 2000s, 1990s, 1980s, etc. The 2010s is when we really started to see particular trends that would shape modern cartoons.

  • @MrsStormtrooper
    @MrsStormtrooper 11 месяцев назад +2

    Oh wow... Another nice and perfectly pleasant design dumbed tf down for no reason. I should stop being surprised

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  11 месяцев назад +1

      I'm sad this is becoming the norm.

  • @AzariahMarinaStarcaster
    @AzariahMarinaStarcaster Год назад +3

    Pluto's design is nowhere near sharp enough, Jupiter and Mars deserves to have their bell bottoms and fluffy orange jacket back respectively, and WHY DO VENUS, URANUS AND MILKY'S EYES LOOK LIKE THAT??

  • @Crowned_Fan
    @Crowned_Fan Год назад +3

    I have no clue what this show is or who these characters are, but all I know is that The Moon was robbed of personality

  • @Yuuriix
    @Yuuriix 5 месяцев назад +4

    3:11 IS THAT EVEN THE SAME PERSON

  • @presentexchange5108
    @presentexchange5108 11 месяцев назад +1

    The moon redesign looks like it was tooken straight out of molly mc gee ⛈

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  11 месяцев назад

      Omg wait you have a point ngl 💀

  • @itzpris15634
    @itzpris15634 Год назад +3

    for me the sun’s redesign is the only one i really truly liked. the others are cute but pale in comparison to the older designs

  • @albinomushrooms4390
    @albinomushrooms4390 6 месяцев назад +3

    With a little more tweaking- they could be the new monster high. but the new designs some of them fr have ME tweaking.. 😭 as someone whos art speciality is character design lemme tell you- sacrificing detailed and complicated designs for an easier animation is a TRAGIC CURSE that befalls too many artists. Think shows like Ever After High, Monster High, Winx, Littlest Pet Shop (Bratz & Barbie) etc that embraced complex designs and singlehandedly raised a generation! To this day, whether they lasted 10 seasons or not, theyre still considered to be some of the most iconic shows (and movies) that gave fashion a more personal connection with identity. Ask yourself- would you prefer your show to air MANY episodes and seasons over a longer period of time, or have a shorter franchise that echos throughout the years and gets remembered as iconic or unforgettable- nostalgic even?

    • @dead4sschannel
      @dead4sschannel  6 месяцев назад +2

      YES! THIS COMMENT! So many new shows hate being complex for some reason. I'm so frustrated that the redesigns came with that side effect. Also, "some of them fr have ME tweaking" is gold. ^^

  • @lina4245
    @lina4245 Год назад +2

    The hairstyle of the new Neptune is very similar to the hairstyle of Tomo from Azumanga Daioh

  • @R4INB0T
    @R4INB0T Год назад +3

    The new Venus looks like she blinks horizontally😟 and why are her body features so tiny? The old designs had some tiny features but the old ones had it balanced, new Venus has atom sized features… her front faced view scares me the most, I’m not sleeping tonight knowing that *THING* is probably looking through my window… new moon would be great for cleaning, better alternative for a mop. The new Mars looks like a preschool teacher, maybe the counselor that comes to tell you about poison control and gives you flower necklaces. The new Uranus looks racist to me…. My biggest problem is mars, the old designs radiate silly goober energy, the new one is my math teacher.

    • @R4INB0T
      @R4INB0T Год назад +1

      Moon with long noodle arms, 6 legs, and a Mohawk in the middle of her hair with uneven braids covering her face is better than the new design

  • @amandabushore7890
    @amandabushore7890 6 месяцев назад +4

    Mars done so dirty, made her not look like an alien
    She cant look basic like that

  • @mexcolette
    @mexcolette Месяц назад +1

    I loved the exaggerated shapes and oversized roller skates, if that makes sense. it really gave them a unique feel to them

  • @Larsen_illustrations
    @Larsen_illustrations Год назад +7

    Moon looks like a little girl, I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be teens so i feel they should dress a bit more maturely, i mean she looks dramatic in her old design, in her new one she looks just shy

  • @yipipayayiii
    @yipipayayiii 5 месяцев назад +2

    WHAT DID THEY DO TO SUN AND JUPITER