I found something that works for me. Before you plop down on the ground, its nice to have something under you that keeps the dirt off your back. I was given these plastic palets that they put under concreate blocks at construction sites, when delivering and storing blocks on bare ground. I got two in the trunk now. Size wise they are 2'×2' and easy to carry, sturdy plastic, injected molded and washable. No more cardboard for me! I got enough for the other cars in the family too.
My 6405 has had the same probs, including a stripped fuel pickup cap. After about 6 tank pumps it just stripped, went on great but just wont tighten or well at least stay tight anymore. Tractor goes through those pickup pumps like crazy, even had Deere come out before to check it out with no more help than I could do on my own, its so bad I keep an extra in the cab, no more factory JD pumps at $178, its $18 ebay replacements for me from now on, last the same from my experience. My screen is always squeaky clean every time I pull out the pickup as well so I know its not crap in the tank. Gonna try replacing the cloth hoses like you showed next and hope that stops the my pump problem, tractor only has 3100 hrs to boot. This is hands down my new favorite youtube channel, so glad I came across it, keep up the great work man..
great video. On your hose replacement, double male the old and the new and use the old line as a fish , just draw new line until it comes to the connection point, remove the double male the mystery of the path is complete. Love watching the true life of a field mechanic !
Hey man I love your videos , I was a Deere Ag master field Tech for 24 years . What we found the problem to be on tractors and sprayers was contamination in the fuel system caused by micro particles that made it past the filters and accumulated in the rail system . This will cause injector leak bye SCV valve on the pump as well as rail contamination which can cause differences in readings . Deere has a fuel flush tool that works absolutely awesome . It is a canister that has a filter in it and you poor this solution in it that looks like milk that Deere has , you hook the suction line to the pump up to the canister on the bottom and the return to tank on the top where it filters the return . Start and run the machine at various RPM's until the solution is almost gone in the canister . I will say this it works like a dream it never failed me . I do not know whats it the solution but it's some bad ass shit . Deere DTAC actually has bulletins talking about this code and what to do . Keep Up The Great Videos
My 7930 had the 1347.07 code, swapped all 6 injectors. It only ever did it on hard pulls uphill, getting to road speed with 25 tonnes behind it on level roads, the 12 foot heavy offset disk and really anytime you get really nice turbo spool up. Sounds nice but you always get the code. Why wouldn’t deere find a way to fix it? At least I’m not the only one with it
When i diagnosed this problem when the code mishmatch pressure i usually replaced the pressure limiter valve. Check the readings in the service advisor
Love when when they call and explain issues/problems , then they later come back and tell ya more information about whats been happening. Its like you have to pull information on problems what been happening from them instead of them just telling you everything like yea I been having long hard starts at first startup but ok until next day. Things that if they would have told you at the start you could have gotten a idea what is happening and you dont need to go through needless steps and bypass them based on whats really been happening.Get that all time and why I always just talk with them and try to pull information from owners , like constantly ask same thing , you sure nothing else been a problem , starting , idling...nothing thats not normal . Still get some owners that later come back after I have narrowed it down and say oh yea I been having that issue sometimes too (Like WHY didn't you tell me when I asked several times) Sure it is their dime but no reason to do needless steps if you can be told everything where it leads you right to real issue instead of hours of troubleshooting .
Bad to hear about that Kubota, must be made of soft stuff losing the transmission at 3200 hours haha, great video so good to watch and listen to during the day
Common rail fuel setups can be a pain to troubleshoot and I hate automotive u joints I always tell the parts store to send me all options because they always give ya the wrong shit ! Great video thanks for sharing hope all is well 👍
Had the fuel problem on my jd6820, there was an upgraded fuel lift pump kit. Only found out after it wouldn't fill the filters after servicing. Starts perfectly since.
Have fixed many a fuel system sucking air from those spiral clamps cutting the hose over time, have never had an issue with the spring clamps. Same thing with people replacing the mobius clamps on rad hoses. They don't leak and they expand and contract with the thermal changes.
I got a question for you or anyone out there. Please understand, we are retired and can't afford John Deere's or any name brand tractors. We bought an LS tractor for our small ranch. I understand they build for other companies including small New Hollands. Do I have to worry about design stupidity? So, 50 hrs, and no problems. None. I love the maintaining my vehicles so that's not an issue. Will I need to sell it before it gets old?
is there no off highway diesel out there? John deere had me all kinds of confused after ordering the hitch position potentiometers for about a year. couldn't figure out why the hitch was so erratic after replacing them. they sent me two of the same
The best way to test injectors on those is a slight modification on that test. If you connect to the injector return line like you had in the first test but run the machine at full rpm not idle you get a better reading You should get approx 300ml to 400ml a minute, any more than that your injectors are dead. That's how I always diagnosed 30 series and it always worked for me
*@**1:12:05* You probably got along with the Father better than his own Son did- and there's the animosity and distaste he had for you. That happens a lot with people and their children, especially if the child was spoiled; they grow up entitled and disrespectful, and no respect of or for authority. Outside people see that, and side with the Parent. The child sees that bond, and resents the outsider. You respected his Father, the Father enjoyed the respect; he probably spoke highly of you to the Son ("why can't you be more like him?").
*@**1:11:35* Warren- A person who acts astonished when they discover you have bettered yourself since they last saw you- indicates that they didn't think very highly of you before, and they couldn't foresee you ever advancing in life. Like knowing a person who's obese, then seeing them years later, trim & healthy. If we don't like someone- we tend to focus on one aspect of the person we find distasteful; we manufacture a "reason" to not like them, and if we then see that reason is gone- it's hard for us to comprehend why we didn't like them, and admit to ourselves how petty and shallow we are towards one another. Our ego doesn't like to admit that we can be prejudice.
Are they denso injectors? If so no way to test them. They are throw away. Had to replace 6 at 725.00 each on komatsu d65 last summer cause diesel shop had no way to test denso injectors.
Hey Warren, I need some help with our john deere 6715. No heat is coming out the vents. One of the coolant hoses is warm behind the cab, and the other is cold. I cant figure out whats going on.
49:07 A piece of wire, long enough to go through the length of both the hose and the hose guard. on the hose end run a washer through the wire, then wire up a big nut behind the washer. Pull the wire and BAm,, the nut and washer will pull the hose through the guard but will stop the hose from pulling too far. I need advice from you as well, LOL. Got a Cummins with a fuel issue or two. Oh yeah, ASBESTOS!!!!! BEWARE!!!!!! That hose is full of it.............hahahahahahahahahahaha!
what's so aggravating is that most of them have enough sensors to be useful for diagnosing issues (as long as the sensors are good) but if you don't have the right software, you might as well be shooting in the dark.
here in central washington, a local parts store, "Gerrys Auto", has joined with NAPA, to be one store. Before Jerrys had what you needed more often than NAPA.
On the 6418, are you talking about the braided looking fuel line john deere uses and to replace it with rubber hose? I need to replace some fuel line hoses on some of our 20 and 30 series 6000 JD's and wondering if the rubber line is a better way to go as it looks like some of the fuel lines look like they are sweating......
the test dose work, you really need to people to complete it, and there is a total fuel return test, that's high pressure pump and injectors.. if you block off injectors one by one.. then run the engine at ideal for one minute no more no less, that will help norrow it down to each injector down I no how you feel Warren I've been down this road keep up the good work 👍
I just went through this last week with our 7820 with the 6.8 L motor had to change all the injectors solved the problem. The mechanic said this is the fourth 6.8 that had to change the injectors on.
Thank you for this video 4th time watching this with farmers that is to tight to buy the injectors. Got a black book on your 21 videos that help me in a debate. To bad I can't give you four thumbs up.It helps me put money in my pocket.
John deere fuel filter holders are junk they don't seam to tighten up good and some times the plastic nut strips out why cant they use spin on filters like most other engines?
Future ref for the fuel rail mismatch. If you dynoed that tractor you likely would be able to fault it every time when you pull it to its knees. Do the injector leak off test straight after Dyno. Watch the actual and desired rail pressures. We did this on nearly every 30 series 6068 we sold. 👍
It's a bitch to get the fuel hose back through the loom. I found a stupid easy way to eliminate all the hassle. I take a straight Barb and hook the two together and pull the new one through as the old comes out 👍
When you were talking about a former owner or a boss with silver spoon know exactly what you mean pain in the butts think everyone owes them something and they never where worth a crap anyway
Is it possible there is somthing partially blocking the tank pickup ONLY WHEN THE TRACTOR IS LEANING BACKWARDS . In other words Pulling Hard uphill??Just a thought on the 7830
I have a kit which has one bottle for each injector so you can see if one is way worse than the others but I still find it a very inconclusive test at best and like you say the system is not under load
Warren, I always had the same opinion that they were out of my price range. Found a fellow that dealt in used ones and picked up an M&w that is good up to 240 hp. It's quickly paying for itself. With me getting getting a 1000 shaft for it I have 5500$ invested.
I go to the service counter I have a tape in my hand the old part and the phrase ,I best not have to come back in here cause I got the wrong part,never works
what makes me angry is you buy a new vehicle for ridicules over price half made of plastic limited life components and then the manufacturer forces you to take it back to them for repairs because the average repair shop cant get the technology to repair it for a couple of years it nothing short of extortion in my eyes
ever run into excessive oil getting past the turbo seals running into the intake and exhaust on the 7.6 john deere mines a 4455 still happening after turbo was replaced and run a few weeks
Your right equipment is getting bad about having 12 different u joints different in each way possible from one another just so they can call it special and charge the shit out of you because they had to go an extra step to produce the damn things and it's gonna be a non standard deal where everyone is forced to buy them from the manufacturer at the price of gold. It's stupid. It pisses me off to no end.really makes you want to start from scratch and build your own damn driveshaft designed how it should of been to start with. Having all the same joints. Bastard honerary money hungry engineers.
Hi Warren I cannot get RUclips it costs £35 per month it’s a lot of money I work all day on perkin engine it’s like you I have just taxed my truck and insurance over £600pound it’s getting worse here in England 🏴 I also have have cracked discs
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I found something that works for me. Before you plop down on the ground, its nice to have something under you that keeps the dirt off your back. I was given these plastic palets that they put under concreate blocks at construction sites, when delivering and storing blocks on bare ground. I got two in the trunk now. Size wise they are 2'×2' and easy to carry, sturdy plastic, injected molded and washable. No more cardboard for me! I got enough for the other cars in the family too.
My 6405 has had the same probs, including a stripped fuel pickup cap. After about 6 tank pumps it just stripped, went on great but just wont tighten or well at least stay tight anymore. Tractor goes through those pickup pumps like crazy, even had Deere come out before to check it out with no more help than I could do on my own, its so bad I keep an extra in the cab, no more factory JD pumps at $178, its $18 ebay replacements for me from now on, last the same from my experience. My screen is always squeaky clean every time I pull out the pickup as well so I know its not crap in the tank. Gonna try replacing the cloth hoses like you showed next and hope that stops the my pump problem, tractor only has 3100 hrs to boot. This is hands down my new favorite youtube channel, so glad I came across it, keep up the great work man..
those folks are lucky there is a specialist who goes to their sites to fix their stuff and is competent
great video. On your hose replacement, double male the old and the new and use the old line as a fish , just draw new line until it comes to the connection point, remove the double male the mystery of the path is complete. Love watching the true life of a field mechanic !
Been doing just that for years. Works on wires and cables too.
Graham Au - old mig liner is good for that also, very flexible, you can still use a string leader, but use builders line it is much stronger
Hey man I love your videos , I was a Deere Ag master field Tech for 24 years . What we found the problem to be on tractors and sprayers was contamination in the fuel system caused by micro particles that made it past the filters and accumulated in the rail system . This will cause injector leak bye SCV valve on the pump as well as rail contamination which can cause differences in readings . Deere has a fuel flush tool that works absolutely awesome . It is a canister that has a filter in it and you poor this solution in it that looks like milk that Deere has , you hook the suction line to the pump up to the canister on the bottom and the return to tank on the top where it filters the return . Start and run the machine at various RPM's until the solution is almost gone in the canister . I will say this it works like a dream it never failed me . I do not know whats it the solution but it's some bad ass shit . Deere DTAC actually has bulletins talking about this code and what to do . Keep Up The Great Videos
Best show on internet & cable!!
I have always found it much easier, when dealing with hose clamps, to use a nut driver, rather than a screwdriver.
My 7930 had the 1347.07 code, swapped all 6 injectors. It only ever did it on hard pulls uphill, getting to road speed with 25 tonnes behind it on level roads, the 12 foot heavy offset disk and really anytime you get really nice turbo spool up. Sounds nice but you always get the code. Why wouldn’t deere find a way to fix it? At least I’m not the only one with it
id like to hear more about problems you find and repairs on the 4050 to 4955 series tractors
That sounds like and absolute nightmare with those U/J’s, seems to happen to me every time I tackle a cash job on my weekend.
When i diagnosed this problem when the code mishmatch pressure i usually replaced the pressure limiter valve. Check the readings in the service advisor
I think that dog has the right idea, just lay in the shade and don't worry about it.
Love when when they call and explain issues/problems , then they later come back and tell ya more information about whats been happening. Its like you have to pull information on problems what been happening from them instead of them just telling you everything like yea I been having long hard starts at first startup but ok until next day. Things that if they would have told you at the start you could have gotten a idea what is happening and you dont need to go through needless steps and bypass them based on whats really been happening.Get that all time and why I always just talk with them and try to pull information from owners , like constantly ask same thing , you sure nothing else been a problem , starting , idling...nothing thats not normal . Still get some owners that later come back after I have narrowed it down and say oh yea I been having that issue sometimes too (Like WHY didn't you tell me when I asked several times) Sure it is their dime but no reason to do needless steps if you can be told everything where it leads you right to real issue instead of hours of troubleshooting .
Bad to hear about that Kubota, must be made of soft stuff losing the transmission at 3200 hours haha, great video so good to watch and listen to during the day
Hey Warren. There a reason why the diesel isn’t red? Looked like normal over the road diesel in that machine.
Common rail fuel setups can be a pain to troubleshoot and I hate automotive u joints I always tell the parts store to send me all options because they always give ya the wrong shit ! Great video thanks for sharing hope all is well 👍
Did you Demo the Texa ?
Yes I did demo Texa works excellent! I like the tablet form over the Panasonic notebook I’ll keep you posted thanks
Hook a log chain on the draw bar, wrap it around the biggest sumbitchin tree you can find, make that motor snort and do the test. Would that work?
lol, Warren, lots of people think no one can do shit but, themselves! Great video guy.
You had a knife you were cutting the hose with so you could of made it split loom easy enough. Sometimes easy solutions don't occur at the time.
That's too easy. LOL
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Greetings from The Netherlands.
@carbine1776 BOB hey, whats so funy.
Had the fuel problem on my jd6820, there was an upgraded fuel lift pump kit. Only found out after it wouldn't fill the filters after servicing. Starts perfectly since.
I just wanted to say thank you for making these videos Warren. They sure do help me understand how things work.
Devin Jaram
warren you might try a short electricians fish tape to pull lines or wire thru the corrugated looms /tubes. thanks for the videos.
Have fixed many a fuel system sucking air from those spiral clamps cutting the hose over time, have never had an issue with the spring clamps. Same thing with people replacing the mobius clamps on rad hoses. They don't leak and they expand and contract with the thermal changes.
I got a question for you or anyone out there. Please understand, we are retired and can't afford John Deere's or any name brand tractors. We bought an LS tractor for our small ranch. I understand they build for other companies including small New Hollands. Do I have to worry about design stupidity? So, 50 hrs, and no problems. None. I love the maintaining my vehicles so that's not an issue. Will I need to sell it before it gets old?
nice one ! ill remember the saying " if you arnt breaking nothing , you ait doing nothing " !
is there no off highway diesel out there? John deere had me all kinds of confused after ordering the hitch position potentiometers for about a year. couldn't figure out why the hitch was so erratic after replacing them. they sent me two of the same
The best way to test injectors on those is a slight modification on that test.
If you connect to the injector return line like you had in the first test but run the machine at full rpm not idle you get a better reading
You should get approx 300ml to 400ml a minute, any more than that your injectors are dead.
That's how I always diagnosed 30 series and it always worked for me
*@**1:12:05*
You probably got along with the Father better than his own Son did-
and there's the animosity and distaste he had for you.
That happens a lot with people and their children, especially if the
child was spoiled; they grow up entitled and disrespectful, and no
respect of or for authority. Outside people see that, and side with
the Parent. The child sees that bond, and resents the outsider.
You respected his Father, the Father enjoyed the respect; he probably
spoke highly of you to the Son ("why can't you be more like him?").
*@**1:11:35*
Warren-
A person who acts astonished when they discover you have bettered yourself
since they last saw you- indicates that they didn't think very highly of you before,
and they couldn't foresee you ever advancing in life. Like knowing a person who's
obese, then seeing them years later, trim & healthy. If we don't like someone-
we tend to focus on one aspect of the person we find distasteful; we
manufacture a "reason" to not like them, and if we then see that reason is
gone- it's hard for us to comprehend why we didn't like them, and admit
to ourselves how petty and shallow we are towards one another. Our
ego doesn't like to admit that we can be prejudice.
Are they denso injectors? If so no way to test them. They are throw away. Had to replace 6 at 725.00 each on komatsu d65 last summer cause diesel shop had no way to test denso injectors.
Anyone know of any electrical issue that might keep my John Deere 7830 from going in gear? I'm no electrician...
Hey Warren, I need some help with our john deere 6715. No heat is coming out the vents. One of the coolant hoses is warm behind the cab, and the other is cold. I cant figure out whats going on.
Sounds like heater control valve is stuck closed.
What I do on those hose' s is tie a string around the hose. Then when you pull it through use the string to guild the new hose through.
49:07 A piece of wire, long enough to go through the length of both the hose and the hose guard. on the hose end run a washer through the wire, then wire up a big nut behind the washer. Pull the wire and BAm,, the nut and washer will pull the hose through the guard but will stop the hose from pulling too far. I need advice from you as well, LOL. Got a Cummins with a fuel issue or two.
Oh yeah, ASBESTOS!!!!! BEWARE!!!!!! That hose is full of it.............hahahahahahahahahahaha!
Doesn't all that test do is tell you the pump flow rate not if an injector is sticking open or shut or clogged
Common rail diesels are a pain to diagnose.
what's so aggravating is that most of them have enough sensors to be useful for diagnosing issues (as long as the sensors are good) but if you don't have the right software, you might as well be shooting in the dark.
here in central washington, a local parts store, "Gerrys Auto", has joined with NAPA, to be one store. Before Jerrys had what you needed more often than NAPA.
On the 6418, are you talking about the braided looking fuel line john deere uses and to replace it with rubber hose? I need to replace some fuel line hoses on some of our 20 and 30 series 6000 JD's and wondering if the rubber line is a better way to go as it looks like some of the fuel lines look like they are sweating......
Sorry, 6415
Yes , replace it with rubber 5/16" fuel line
needed to watch whole video, thanks. I see some rolls of fuel line on amazon, what psi rating would I need to get?
542.00 a piece? Holy shit
the test dose work, you really need to people to complete it, and there is a total fuel return test, that's high pressure pump and injectors..
if you block off injectors one by one.. then run the engine at ideal for one minute no more no less, that will help norrow it down to each injector down
I no how you feel Warren I've been down this road keep up the good work 👍
I just went through this last week with our 7820 with the 6.8 L motor had to change all the injectors solved the problem. The mechanic said this is the fourth 6.8 that had to change the injectors on.
Thank you for this video 4th time watching this with farmers that is to tight to buy the injectors. Got a black book on your 21 videos that help me in a debate. To bad I can't give you four thumbs up.It helps me put money in my pocket.
Couldn’t you remove the injectors and have them pressure tested?
John deere fuel filter holders are junk they don't seam to tighten up good and some times the plastic nut strips out
why cant they use spin on filters like most other engines?
Future ref for the fuel rail mismatch. If you dynoed that tractor you likely would be able to fault it every time when you pull it to its knees. Do the injector leak off test straight after Dyno. Watch the actual and desired rail pressures. We did this on nearly every 30 series 6068 we sold. 👍
Also changing the injector fuel delivery tubes can temporarily solve this issue.
We have done a couple sets of injectors due to that code on 30 series as well. Injections will solve your problem.
Beginning to sound like you might consider retiring, ready or not. It happened to me
I got hitch fault codes H and 4 on my 7140 today. From all the internet reading it seems dealer only fix. Any suggestions? Thanks
It's a bitch to get the fuel hose back through the loom. I found a stupid easy way to eliminate all the hassle. I take a straight Barb and hook the two together and pull the new one through as the old comes out 👍
dont you miss the day when they used the same sensor in most spots. now they make a small little ohm change and you are up the creek.
I don’t remember the codes but my 7430 did the same thing pulling a load up hill. Replaced injectors and problem was fixed.
Did you go to school for this or does this come naturally - you know your mechanics
I went to school for a diesel mechanic and my dad was a diesel mechanic and he touth me lots of things.
Warren what Year or Series did JD start using that bad fuel hose?
I can remember them as far back as the 6400 and 6410 series.
Thanks,
When you were talking about a former owner or a boss with silver spoon know exactly what you mean pain in the butts think everyone owes them something and they never where worth a crap anyway
Is it possible there is somthing partially blocking the tank pickup ONLY WHEN THE TRACTOR IS LEANING BACKWARDS . In other words Pulling Hard uphill??Just a thought on the 7830
David Watt I wouldn’t think so. It’s apparently a super common problem on these large frame 7030’s
I've also changed that garbage fuel line on one of my uncle's tractors just a discrace of a fuel line for the price those things go for
How many times have you been looking for your camera while it's on your head? Lol, I enjoy your channel man.
i do that with my various glasses, quite often.
I have a kit which has one bottle for each injector so you can see if one is way worse than the others but I still find it a very inconclusive test at best and like you say the system is not under load
It's because of out sourcing to other o/e parts suppliers Warren.
Those fuel injector price for each was outrageous
Sometimes you can bring in the old ones and buy refurbished ones.
Professional Due Diligence-- Ive met few mechanics that actually know what that means. Thanks for the video Warren
Do u have a Dyno ? Would that do it? Too get it too go
No , I'm a poor boy , it would probably work though
Warren, I always had the same opinion that they were out of my price range. Found a fellow that dealt in used ones and picked up an M&w that is good up to 240 hp. It's quickly paying for itself. With me getting getting a 1000 shaft for it I have 5500$ invested.
I go to the service counter I have a tape in my hand the old part and the phrase ,I best not have to come back in here cause I got the wrong part,never works
It sounds like a van engine. It doesn't sound has if it would pull your plonker.
You do live and work in Oregon - not any California what so ever
what makes me angry is you buy a new vehicle for ridicules over price half made of plastic limited life components and then the manufacturer forces you to take it back to them for repairs because the average repair shop cant get the technology to repair it for a couple of years it nothing short of extortion in my eyes
ever run into excessive oil getting past the turbo seals running into the intake and exhaust on the 7.6 john deere mines a 4455 still happening after turbo was replaced and run a few weeks
turbos are pigs like that.
Your right equipment is getting bad about having 12 different u joints different in each way possible from one another just so they can call it special and charge the shit out of you because they had to go an extra step to produce the damn things and it's gonna be a non standard deal where everyone is forced to buy them from the manufacturer at the price of gold. It's stupid. It pisses me off to no end.really makes you want to start from scratch and build your own damn driveshaft designed how it should of been to start with. Having all the same joints. Bastard honerary money hungry engineers.
Fiat New Holland knows how to make money selling parts!
Dude, you remind me of my dad so much it's uncanny. The Sons a bitches!!! Take care. Gene
napa know how right there.
That camera on you cap help out quite a bit - both hands can work
advice on an image stabilizer would helpful, from a geek out there
What if you rise the rpm during the test ?
Hi Warren I cannot get RUclips it costs £35 per month it’s a lot of money I work all day on perkin engine it’s like you I have just taxed my truck and insurance over £600pound it’s getting worse here in England 🏴 I also have have cracked discs
Would a PTO dyno allow you to better diagnose these kinds of issues?
oldvideodude it would do great on loading these things up, too much money I’d think for him
I wondered if one might be available for rent. If so it might save his time riding the tractor in the field.
I hope you told you ex boss that have another new truck ,just to piss him off.
The electronic shit fitted to machines have made them unreliable. progress !
The less you break the better though
gooD joB
Auw aWWw Thanks
This is your Million dollar year ??
Cap off 1 injector at a time.
🏁😎
hey this is my life on you tube. lol. but no really it is!
I get sick of bloody new Holland’s tractors and combines ploughs crap all of them I am now on deers they aren’t much better
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Do you have cursed so much
Yes, it's called free speech. It's in our constitution.
nice one ! ill remember the saying " if you arnt breaking nothing , you ait doing nothing " !