I really appreciate his uploading any video, Warren is a busy man for sure. I always give him a thumbs up before watching, cuz he always has something interesting going on, and he tells the best stories, and the commentary on the machine's, or the people he deal's with are great.
Those cast iron Deere cutter bars are tough but they won’t last long without oil. The shear hubs break 999 times out of a thousand and save the cutterbar but a failed bearing from low oil will go thru the gears like a shotgun blast and wreck everything.
Hey Warren, great to see a video. I remember when you bought that truck at the auction and it had that brand new welder on it. What a deal that was!! Lots of strange stuff you work on. I found a new channel on RUclips called Farming Fixing & Fabricating. They operate a dairy in upstate new York but do a lot of equipment repair also. Reminds me a lot of what you do. Keep up the great work. Thanks for sharing your awesome videos.
Damn Warren, I didn't know you were a dentist as well. All those missing teeth it's almost like that machine was in a redneck bar fight and lost big time.. Thanks for sharing and Stay Safe!
And when it happened it was a very expensive sound. When you chip a tooth in those cycle bars there are no magnets, it will wipe out the whole set. Happy to see a video from you Warren.
Didn't know that's how some are designed... that is nuts! No breakpoint to prevent from taking out the whole head. Might as well as scrap it just about.
Thanks for the video Warren, i laughed at the title, knew it must be about some junk john deere lol. G-d bless you, the wife, kid's, and all the furry critters.
Ouch! I have one of those down at the moment too. I would consider ordering the whole bar new for that one. There should be more oil in it as well, just don't over fill they will get hot. I normally see gear tooth damage from failed ball bearing on gear or failed roller bearing on the output driver. Balls or rollers get in the teeth and well you know the rest of the story. If replacing bearings in gear you must torch them out. They snap ring into place when installed in gear with no access to snap ring. Make certain you time every thing by the book or you will take up drinking. Take care Warren hope this helps.
First one I rebuilt took for ever to realize how the bearing are held on. Interesting to find a captured snap ring. Guess cutting off is quicker regardless.
Clean, sawdust, and trade in quick! Remember cutting off a sprinkler head with the lawn mower, then it shuck like heck. It bend the crankshaft. Boy was my dad mad about having to buy a new mower!
i second that, one has to be quite a bit pain free(as we say in Germany) to weld without any cleaning of the cutter bar with a hay stack just in front of it. Please don't confuse courage with recklessness Warren!
The cutter bar on the older Hesston machines sat in a tray on the header and you had to remove the cutter bar to do that sort of thing with it. I like the modular design on the deere cutter bar, but have been unimpressed with the quality of deere equipment produced in the last 5 to 10 years. Love the videos Warren, looking forward to seeing the solution to this one.
I looked up the parts. I'm looking at $463 each for the big gears (AFH203695). The driver gear and bearing (with the shear hub) is $742 (AFH205728). The repair bill on this one is gonna hurt.... To replace all the gears and drivers/shear hubs its gonna be north of $16,000.
@@pootthatbak2578 shit happens we have years we cut 6k acres with nothing but fuel,net,grease ,oil and then we have this year 5k here, 7k there and now we are out of drought heading into 2nd cutting who the hell knows what that brings but we are ready to cut monday
That’s the problem with all rotary swathers, one thing goes wrong and it takes out the entire cutter bar. The hesstons we used to run it cost us 16k to rebuild the entire cutter bar because an irrigator left a center pivot gear box in the field. If I remember right they only hold less than a gallon of oil too.
Thank you Warren, good to see you are plugging along. When you pulled that first shaft and you saw the missing teeth I sat here fer a second and wondered if there had been a cascading effect on the others. I am no expert at all sir, wish I had been wrong. I have only known a handful of HD Mechanics in my life who had the skill, integrity, and work ethic you have shown us over the years in your videos. That man was my Father. I can't give you a higher compliment. Best to you and yours in these...interesting times we live in. Keep yer powder dry....
I run 3pt disc mowers as our farms in Ky. are small. The designs of the bars are the same. That is the catastrophic failure mode of the gear to gear drive models. I prefer the individual pod style bars. The carmage is always contained to 1 pod. Also you dont have to dissemble the entire bar. That is labor intensive.
That one is a lot older than the one that you and I worked on obviously and but very similar. They must have hit something really hard like you say to take out all those gears! Take it easy if you can try and watch those knees of yours! Take care friend!
These gears had a hell of load to break all those teeth. The last operator knows something about this. Great to see a video Warren, thank you very much.
Thanks Warren. Reminds me when I was working in the computer industry, the service guys were taught how to repair a very large high end chain printer…and thought they could easily fix it. But they were shown the repair at their education class when the covers were off. But at the customers site, the covers were on and they took a long time to figure out how the covers came off - the diabolical engineers had figured out yet another way to lock the covers on, frustrating the service techs. Enjoying your videos, thanks.
Mabe a new cutterbar is cheaper than too bay all this gears to solwe the problem. Looks like the don't have use oil in that cutterbar. Keep going with your great work!
Can you get a new or used cutter bar? The whole maybe cheaper than buying individual gears, sheer hubs and seals. I believe the gears and modular sections are consistent across multiple JD mowing machines. Running the cutter head without hydraulic oil most likely destroyed all the gears in the cutter head. John Deere has become extremely proud of their parts and charge accordingly.
Had the same issue brought to my shop. I think they had bearing go out first and then it went into the gears. Only way to fix it is remove all the gear box sections. No way to make sure all the metal is cleared as it is open from side to side. Dismantle each section and pressure wash. Complete rebuild to do right. I replaced all bearing and it took out several gears like you showed in the video. 12k job at the dealer.
The gears broke cause of no oil...that cutter bar needs everything changed now...all the bearings are toast..easier to just take right off the machine.. if they hit something the shear hub should have sheared right off...looks like no maintenance to me...
Hello Warren. We were thinking it's out of time. Those cutter bars seem to give a lot of trouble. We have repaired a similar one just the other day. They are a load of shite.
Glad you are walking around OK. Take care though not to leap about like a spring chicken too soon. Good that you are booked for work though. Take care and thanks for posting for us all. Much appreciated. Best from UK.
Howdy! I just got done rebuilding my John Deere 956 moco. My have 9 housings and I had to replace 6 whole unit's. It was not fun for me! My local has he fixing housing units. Scared me because I hate to get done in a small Time Warner can't afford that kind of breakdown but I got it fixed with used parts. Enjoy your street to the point content!!!
Looking at the unit, loose one tooth and it follows the field of gears. Thanks for the video Warren, I'll be looking for the follow up on this project. Keep safe guy.
Great video, I hope you show the disassembly and reassembly. If I lived near you, I would be there right beside you. But, I live in northern Illinois. Love this kind of troubleshooting and rebuilds. I been helping my childhood friend on his farm for 35 years. Thank you for sharing, Warren. Oh by the way, did you get an award from RUclips for your 100,000 subscribers?
I have always wondered how those things were driven, now I know. Warren , you are good at what you do sir, always enjoy watching you trouble shoot and repair breakdowns. I would like to think that those gears would be running in some kind of lubricant. Good luck on this one young man, the company owner that owns that machine is about going to have to sell their first born to cover the cost on repair parts alone. Thanks for the ride along sir.
Hey Warren, nice to see another snapshot into your world. It was quick shot of the underside, but it looked like your skid plates were worn thru as well easier to get at them now. you're having way too much fun for me. Take care. do like you pup. I got a new choc lab man that dog loves to bird. 5 months old and he is focused a laser on ducks
Thank you for the video Warren, 👍 Wow, that's one fucked up header on the swather, I hope you'll get sometime off I know work pays bill's but it doesn't buy your life back from exhaustion, but that's life I suppose, at least you've got your trusted girl beside you.
Looks like you have your hands full there Warren . Full of jd green shit is right Thanks for sharing .keep your head up Warren ,your doing a great job . Take care Sask 🇨🇦
Are you welding 105amps with 1/8 rods? I can never get nuts to properly fuse when. I am welding then to remove a stuck fastener. You always have such great success....I weld...breakoff reweld...breakoff....reweld breakoff lol
Enjoy your videos. Just be VERY VERY careful working in front of hay barn. I seen one burn till the ground after a guy was using a grinder in front of it. It didn't burn there and then it was later on that night.
Great video Warren looks like a lot of work to find all of the broken gears and pieces to fix the head on that swather. Thanks for sharing your videos stay safe Warren.
It's the nature of the hay game, sadly the mower is the first machine to go into a field and find any foreign objects. Some of them have shear hubs on them to protect the internal gears from that type of damage but they end up screwing up all the disc's because when one shears the 2 disc's beside it end up beating the living piss out of the sheared one.
I don't know why but I would have expected that to be chain and sprocket driven. Solid gear drive train seems great on paper but has got zero shock absorbtion.
Warren they don't come out the bottom! Each turtle has its own housing you must drop the hole cutter bar then unbolt the housing that's bad split them apart then the gears come out the side!
Ask who the operator was that last used the machine, and have him tell you what he did, did hit anything hard with the cutter? Can you tell if the bed of the disc is bent up ? What knocked the cutter out of timing? Lots of caked crud buildup on the blade disc and front edge bar.
Looks like its time to do a full cutter bar rebuild, combination of no oil/ metal everywhere you can possibly get all the metal out of it now without taking it all apart and inspecting it. I had to do it to my diskbine and Iam glad i did previous owner had a failure just like this one and when I disassembled it there was metal at both ends that I couldn’t have got without taking it completely apart.
Man did the operator run the headed into a rock or into the ground? The owner might replace the header if it to high a cost to fix.if it was me if the cost was close to half the price of a new header I would replace the header.you got lucky with Josey.she is a good looking dog and seems to be a very good dog at minding you.great to see you back making videos Warren.i was wondering it you quit youtube.
I suspect the operator was going too fast in deep grass for the machine to keep up with the incoming crop and that leads to plugging up. Once a tooth sheers off with plug up pressure and the continued use of the machine the rest of the gears have no chance because the timing goes out of sync and that leads to eventual catastrophic failure. Another fine video Warren.
@@pootthatbak2578 Yes I am inclined to agree. over here in the UK we don't have swather's for mowing grass. We use tractor mounted front and rear mowing machines. Very often, you see teenager's/early twenty somethings mowing grass as fast as they can go. Then, when taking the silage back in a trailer to the farm they charge around our narrow country roads like idiots. You can see tyre skid marks on the road as proof they have had to brake sharply to stop and avoid a collision. Looks to me like the machines were being operated by idiots.
Yep I’m doing one of them right now. I put a quart of oil every day in these things if it’s not leaking out the air tube is low on oil and that’s what happens
Warren, we get a video from you when we get a video from you. Your loyal fans will wait and watch. As much as I'm a JD fan, I have to agree with you about these new self propelled mowers, same with some of the newer tractors. Krone is the best in my opinion. That was the first thing I noticed, timing on those turtles are way off. That auger shaft is exposed and it shouldn't be, causes wrapping issues then you have a fire. From my experience, the way they're acting, seems to me like there's a gear issue, broken tooth? To be honest, you should be able to spin those a lot more freely and easily than what you're able to in the video. Honestly suggest looking into the others. You're there, it's not going to hurt to at least check them out. Even though you can remove these as sections, they're not isolated as everyone thinks they are. Broken teeth will travel from one end to the other and wreck havoc. Seen it happen several times. Yes, those are supposed to be full of oil. Yes, you take the bolts out from the bottom side. For some reason, I knew you'll find a broken tooth, now, unfortunately, it's the entire bar. Expensive.
And every time I took one apart it had lost oil. NH has oil in each compartment with a $70 shaft between each one. The shafts would snap sometimes, but usually gears were broke too. The segments held together with bolts torqued to 580ftlbs, that’s tight
The work and time it takes for you to bring us these videos is very much appreciated. Thank you Warren,
I really appreciate his uploading any video, Warren is a busy man for sure. I always give him a thumbs up before watching, cuz he always has something interesting going on, and he tells the best stories, and the commentary on the machine's, or the people he deal's with are great.
Agreed Graeme!
Where you get wrench extender at
@@davidhauser1197 I made my own one from some 30x8 flat bar about 600 long and bent some 10x5 into two hooks and welded on staggered it works well
Those cast iron Deere cutter bars are tough but they won’t last long without oil. The shear hubs break 999 times out of a thousand and save the cutterbar but a failed bearing from low oil will go thru the gears like a shotgun blast and wreck everything.
I could watch your videos all day I really appreciate you for the awesome content as I am disabled.
Wow! I hope we get a follow up on this one. Looks like a domino effect took out the whole geartrain.
Hey Warren, great to see a video. I remember when you bought that truck at the auction and it had that brand new welder on it. What a deal that was!! Lots of strange stuff you work on. I found a new channel on RUclips called Farming Fixing & Fabricating. They operate a dairy in upstate new York but do a lot of equipment repair also. Reminds me a lot of what you do. Keep up the great work. Thanks for sharing your awesome videos.
O heck Warren you have opened up a right can of worms there .😯
Looks like you may have to replace them all 😯
Damn Warren, I didn't know you were a dentist as well. All those missing teeth it's almost like that machine was in a redneck bar fight and lost big time.. Thanks for sharing and Stay Safe!
What's the best time to go to the Dentist?
Tooth Hurty 🤣
Unless you're Canadian, then it's Tooth Hurty, Eh?
I had to wait for it right to the very end,but I wasn’t disappointed…..”What a piece of --- “. Kindest regards 🇨🇦
I love WWW =watching warren work ,, cheers mate
And when it happened it was a very expensive sound. When you chip a tooth in those cycle bars there are no magnets, it will wipe out the whole set. Happy to see a video from you Warren.
Didn't know that's how some are designed... that is nuts! No breakpoint to prevent from taking out the whole head. Might as well as scrap it just about.
You are the man... not grabbing the freshly welded bolt with your hand..
Glad to see your alive and well.
Thanks for the video Warren. Hard ass work out in the fields, take care of yourself. They should just replace the entire head.
I’m glade you made a video about this machine. Never seen them up close before. Cheers
Thanks for the video Warren, i laughed at the title, knew it must be about some junk john deere lol. G-d bless you, the wife, kid's, and all the furry critters.
Ouch! I have one of those down at the moment too. I would consider ordering the whole bar new for that one. There should be more oil in it as well, just don't over fill they will get hot. I normally see gear tooth damage from failed ball bearing on gear or failed roller bearing on the output driver. Balls or rollers get in the teeth and well you know the rest of the story. If replacing bearings in gear you must torch them out. They snap ring into place when installed in gear with no access to snap ring. Make certain you time every thing by the book or you will take up drinking. Take care Warren hope this helps.
First one I rebuilt took for ever to realize how the bearing are held on. Interesting to find a captured snap ring. Guess cutting off is quicker regardless.
If they are real lucky, they can find a swather that has burned and grab the bar off of it. Good luck Warren.
Clean, sawdust, and trade in quick! Remember cutting off a sprinkler head with the lawn mower, then it shuck like heck. It bend the crankshaft. Boy was my dad mad about having to buy a new mower!
I love the heartfelt comments and the quick ending!
made me a bit nervous welding around all that hay. with my luck I would've burned the whole barn down. good on ya.
i second that, one has to be quite a bit pain free(as we say in Germany) to weld without any cleaning of the cutter bar with a hay stack just in front of it. Please don't confuse courage with recklessness Warren!
I was worried the same. Hay all over the head, all over the ground and a barn of hay! I know we wanted the shade by I would've moved it back myself.
Yep fairly risky think welder earth shouldn’t weld through bearing!!
Welcome back..News said water cut back to farm land in Klamath. Hope you show more when you repair this cutter.
The cutter bar on the older Hesston machines sat in a tray on the header and you had to remove the cutter bar to do that sort of thing with it. I like the modular design on the deere cutter bar, but have been unimpressed with the quality of deere equipment produced in the last 5 to 10 years. Love the videos Warren, looking forward to seeing the solution to this one.
You are right. The quality is worse.cant keep selling equipment if it lasts for years!
Thanks for you effort Warren these videos must take up a lot of your time? I just hope all appreciate this effort
I looked up the parts. I'm looking at $463 each for the big gears (AFH203695). The driver gear and bearing (with the shear hub) is $742 (AFH205728). The repair bill on this one is gonna hurt.... To replace all the gears and drivers/shear hubs its gonna be north of $16,000.
Thats good info..keep it coming. Holy cow, how can anyone afford to work a field?
@@pootthatbak2578 shit happens we have years we cut 6k acres with nothing but fuel,net,grease ,oil and then we have this year 5k here, 7k there and now we are out of drought heading into 2nd cutting who the hell knows what that brings but we are ready to cut monday
Glad to see you posting videos again, hopefully your knee is better. Love seeing your babyz, such good loving dogs.
Warren, great to see you back. Hope you’re getting along well and all is going good. May you be blessed!!
My God the situations that you get into would discourage a lesser man, Keep on plugging away. appreciate any videos you make
That’s the problem with all rotary swathers, one thing goes wrong and it takes out the entire cutter bar. The hesstons we used to run it cost us 16k to rebuild the entire cutter bar because an irrigator left a center pivot gear box in the field. If I remember right they only hold less than a gallon of oil too.
Thank you Warren, good to see you are plugging along. When you pulled that first shaft and you saw the missing teeth I sat here fer a second and wondered if there had been a cascading effect on the others. I am no expert at all sir, wish I had been wrong.
I have only known a handful of HD Mechanics in my life who had the skill, integrity, and work ethic you have shown us over the years in your videos. That man was my Father. I can't give you a higher compliment. Best to you and yours in these...interesting times we live in. Keep yer powder dry....
I run 3pt disc mowers as our farms in Ky. are small. The designs of the bars are the same. That is the catastrophic failure mode of the gear to gear drive models. I prefer the individual pod style bars. The carmage is always contained to 1 pod. Also you dont have to dissemble the entire bar. That is labor intensive.
That one is a lot older than the one that you and I worked on obviously and but very similar. They must have hit something really hard like you say to take out all those gears! Take it easy if you can try and watch those knees of yours! Take care friend!
These gears had a hell of load to break all those teeth. The last operator knows something about this. Great to see a video Warren, thank you very much.
You got some huge balls welding next to all that hay and all that hay on the ground
Thanks Warren. Reminds me when I was working in the computer industry, the service guys were taught how to repair a very large high end chain printer…and thought they could easily fix it. But they were shown the repair at their education class when the covers were off. But at the customers site, the covers were on and they took a long time to figure out how the covers came off - the diabolical engineers had figured out yet another way to lock the covers on, frustrating the service techs. Enjoying your videos, thanks.
Thanks for the video, always makes a Saturday morning even better.
Mabe a new cutterbar is cheaper than too bay all this gears to solwe the problem. Looks like the don't have use oil in that cutterbar. Keep going with your great work!
Can you get a new or used cutter bar? The whole maybe cheaper than buying individual gears, sheer hubs and seals. I believe the gears and modular sections are consistent across multiple JD mowing machines. Running the cutter head without hydraulic oil most likely destroyed all the gears in the cutter head. John Deere has become extremely proud of their parts and charge accordingly.
I think I would be looking for a used head.
Had the same issue brought to my shop. I think they had bearing go out first and then it went into the gears. Only way to fix it is remove all the gear box sections. No way to make sure all the metal is cleared as it is open from side to side. Dismantle each section and pressure wash. Complete rebuild to do right. I replaced all bearing and it took out several gears like you showed in the video. 12k job at the dealer.
Oh make sure us new o rings between sections. When they leak there goes all the gear oil.
Glad to see nothing wrong other than loaded with work, stay safe!
Thank you for the videos.
We well understand being busy and taking care of your family and business.
The gears broke cause of no oil...that cutter bar needs everything changed now...all the bearings are toast..easier to just take right off the machine.. if they hit something the shear hub should have sheared right off...looks like no maintenance to me...
I just started watching your RUclips channel and it crazy how much stuff you know how to fix it it is awesome thanks for sharing your knowledge
Thank you
Love watching the videos but never long enough. Could watch all day. 😁😁
Thanks Warren both for the quality entertainment and the extra time it takes you!!
Looks like its got its summer teeth, thanks for a great video as usual Warren
Hello Warren. We were thinking it's out of time. Those cutter bars seem to give a lot of trouble. We have repaired a similar one just the other day. They are a load of shite.
WARREN THANK YOU. I’m glad to see you posted another video, thank you for the time and effort you put into everything!
Glad you are walking around OK. Take care though not to leap about like a spring chicken too soon. Good that you are booked for work though. Take care and thanks for posting for us all. Much appreciated. Best from UK.
Howdy! I just got done rebuilding my John Deere 956 moco. My have 9 housings and I had to replace 6 whole unit's. It was not fun for me! My local has he fixing housing units. Scared me because I hate to get done in a small Time Warner can't afford that kind of breakdown but I got it fixed with used parts. Enjoy your street to the point content!!!
Looking at the unit, loose one tooth and it follows the field of gears. Thanks for the video Warren, I'll be looking for the follow up on this project. Keep safe guy.
Videos have to take 2nd place to the work your doing, Warren. Video when you can and stay safe....
I look forward to seeing the rest of this swather repair.
Well warren looks like your in for a big job! Looks like you will be dropping that cutter bar and splitting it to pull them gears out!
Your content is much appreciated Warren.
Great video, I hope you show the disassembly and reassembly. If I lived near you, I would be there right beside you. But, I live in northern Illinois. Love this kind of troubleshooting and rebuilds. I been helping my childhood friend on his farm for 35 years. Thank you for sharing, Warren. Oh by the way, did you get an award from RUclips for your 100,000 subscribers?
Warren - hope to see the toothless discbine come together. Price would be a plus. Hope they got enough parts at dealership.
Looks like a fun job. Sarcasm of course. Nice to hear from you. Thanks
Great video warren! You think taking it apart was hard wait until you start putting it back together getting everything all in time is fun.🤞
Hi warren, good to see you and the dogs out and about.🛠
Thanks for taking the time to make a video !! That thing is a real mess inside. Hope you get to the bottom of it all easily. Take care !
hey, work first, video as you can. I have no problem waiting, it always worth the wait.
I have always wondered how those things were driven, now I know. Warren , you are good at what you do sir, always enjoy watching you trouble shoot and repair breakdowns. I would like to think that those gears would be running in some kind of lubricant. Good luck on this one young man, the company owner that owns that machine is about going to have to sell their first born to cover the cost on repair parts alone. Thanks for the ride along sir.
Hey Warren, nice to see another snapshot into your world. It was quick shot of the underside, but it looked like your skid plates were worn thru as well easier to get at them now. you're having way too much fun for me. Take care. do like you pup. I got a new choc lab man that dog loves to bird. 5 months old and he is focused a laser on ducks
Thank you for the video Warren, 👍 Wow, that's one fucked up header on the swather, I hope you'll get sometime off I know work pays bill's but it doesn't buy your life back from exhaustion, but that's life I suppose, at least you've got your trusted girl beside you.
Blij je weer te zien Warren zo als gewoonlijk goe bezig top mecanicien ben je eerlijk waar 👌👌👍👍💪
Wow warren u can c they don't take care of their equipment god bless you and your family
Thanks for your time and consideration Warren you are the best of the best 🛠️🔧🚜😎
Looks like you have your hands full there Warren .
Full of jd green shit is right
Thanks for sharing .keep your head up Warren ,your doing a great job .
Take care
Sask 🇨🇦
Keep us posted on this project Warren 💪
👍👍.. been wondering how your doin feller...thanks for another video... we'll see ya next time 👊
Are you welding 105amps with 1/8 rods? I can never get nuts to properly fuse when. I am welding then to remove a stuck fastener.
You always have such great success....I weld...breakoff reweld...breakoff....reweld breakoff lol
Thanks for the videos, Warren. I appreciate the time and effort you put into sharing your skills.
Enjoy your videos. Just be VERY VERY careful working in front of hay barn. I seen one burn till the ground after a guy was using a grinder in front of it. It didn't burn there and then it was later on that night.
Great video Warren looks like a lot of work to find all of the broken gears and pieces to fix the head on that swather. Thanks for sharing your videos stay safe Warren.
Thanks warren now I understand why some have a hole cutter bar ready to install. I'm sure lack of oil is a huge contributor.
It's the nature of the hay game, sadly the mower is the first machine to go into a field and find any foreign objects. Some of them have shear hubs on them to protect the internal gears from that type of damage but they end up screwing up all the disc's because when one shears the 2 disc's beside it end up beating the living piss out of the sheared one.
Great to see you back . Hope knee holds up. Use lots of ice it helps.
Good video 👍. See you on the next one ✌️
Brilliant to see a guy who knows how to fix shit.
Shit, that’s good video👍👍👍
Really enjoy watching.
Thank you so very much for making them😊
I don't know why but I would have expected that to be chain and sprocket driven.
Solid gear drive train seems great on paper but has got zero shock absorbtion.
Hell yeah warren back on the wrenches
Was hoping you would upload a video. Thank you. Looks like Deere Johnny swallowed something undigestable
glad your busy good vid have a great day
Warren they don't come out the bottom! Each turtle has its own housing you must drop the hole cutter bar then unbolt the housing that's bad split them apart then the gears come out the side!
Ask who the operator was that last used the machine, and have him tell you what he did, did hit anything hard with the cutter? Can you tell if the bed of the disc is bent up ? What knocked the cutter out of timing? Lots of caked crud buildup on the blade disc and front edge bar.
Looks like its time to do a full cutter bar rebuild, combination of no oil/ metal everywhere you can possibly get all the metal out of it now without taking it all apart and inspecting it. I had to do it to my diskbine and Iam glad i did previous owner had a failure just like this one and when I disassembled it there was metal at both ends that I couldn’t have got without taking it completely apart.
Those gears are a real mess. I hope you let us know what the result is after you get everything apart.
Man did the operator run the headed into a rock or into the ground? The owner might replace the header if it to high a cost to fix.if it was me if the cost was close to half the price of a new header I would replace the header.you got lucky with Josey.she is a good looking dog and seems to be a very good dog at minding you.great to see you back making videos Warren.i was wondering it you quit youtube.
That's exactly what I do....weld new nuts to the bolts...impact them off
Warren, the ball bearings went through the cutter deck. No oil, lack of maintenance.
We need to pray for our farmers.
Mine did the same thing a few years ago. Didn't hit anything. It was cheaper to replace the entire bar as one unit. Easy job that way but not cheap
I suspect the operator was going too fast in deep grass for the machine to keep up with the incoming crop and that leads to plugging up.
Once a tooth sheers off with plug up pressure and the continued use of the machine the rest of the gears have no chance because the timing goes out of sync and that leads to eventual catastrophic failure. Another fine video Warren.
Good info..warren mentioned the other machine was plugged up but survived..somebodys racing those machines i suppose
@@pootthatbak2578 Yes I am inclined to agree. over here in the UK we don't have swather's for mowing grass. We use tractor mounted front and rear mowing machines.
Very often, you see teenager's/early twenty somethings mowing grass as fast as they can go.
Then, when taking the silage back in a trailer to the farm they charge around our narrow country roads like idiots. You can see tyre skid marks on the road as proof they have had to brake sharply to stop and avoid a collision.
Looks to me like the machines were being operated by idiots.
When you took the first hub out, I was thinking that one broken tooth was going to go from one end all the way to the other....OUCH.
Yep I’m doing one of them right now. I put a quart of oil every day in these things if it’s not leaking out the air tube is low on oil and that’s what happens
Warren you might as well order all the gears. Some tractor jockey busted it bad. 😳
bit of low hydrogen there with rods by the look of it warren good stuff
Warren, we get a video from you when we get a video from you. Your loyal fans will wait and watch. As much as I'm a JD fan, I have to agree with you about these new self propelled mowers, same with some of the newer tractors. Krone is the best in my opinion.
That was the first thing I noticed, timing on those turtles are way off. That auger shaft is exposed and it shouldn't be, causes wrapping issues then you have a fire. From my experience, the way they're acting, seems to me like there's a gear issue, broken tooth? To be honest, you should be able to spin those a lot more freely and easily than what you're able to in the video. Honestly suggest looking into the others. You're there, it's not going to hurt to at least check them out. Even though you can remove these as sections, they're not isolated as everyone thinks they are. Broken teeth will travel from one end to the other and wreck havoc. Seen it happen several times. Yes, those are supposed to be full of oil. Yes, you take the bolts out from the bottom side.
For some reason, I knew you'll find a broken tooth, now, unfortunately, it's the entire bar. Expensive.
The bolts on the top of the turtles are 18mm bolts and if they are worn enough you can pound a 17mm onto them.
And every time I took one apart it had lost oil. NH has oil in each compartment with a $70 shaft between each one. The shafts would snap sometimes, but usually gears were broke too. The segments held together with bolts torqued to 580ftlbs, that’s tight