Ohio State is Where NFL Quarterback BUSTS Are Born (Are They An NFL BUST FACTORY?)

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  • Ohio State is one of college football's best programs, but they have been known to produce a ton of NFL Draft busts at the QB position. Today we will go through every major Buckeye QB and determine whether that theory is fact or fiction, enjoy!
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  • @ScottFisherCFB
    @ScottFisherCFB  3 года назад +42

    Here is my video about Michigan being a QB bust factory if it makes you feel better Ohio State fans: ruclips.net/video/T952bMxzKVQ/видео.html

    • @johnquach8821
      @johnquach8821 3 года назад +2

      Thanks for the qb bust factory Michigan video!

    • @MilesPHourII
      @MilesPHourII 3 года назад +3

      Bama qbs

    • @dontdoittoyoself6786
      @dontdoittoyoself6786 3 года назад +5

      None of these guys were top 10 Picks though. So I disagree!

    • @teaganjohnson3430
      @teaganjohnson3430 3 года назад +5

      @@dontdoittoyoself6786 yeah. A bust should be a top pic and Michigan doesn’t have any first round pics for qbs so their qbs are not busts.

    • @quanegoodwin5963
      @quanegoodwin5963 3 года назад

      Yhu mean ttun but thanks it did 😂😂😂

  • @kwamehenry4867
    @kwamehenry4867 3 года назад +291

    You can’t be a bust if you weren’t expected to do anything in the league

    • @razorsharp4ever
      @razorsharp4ever 3 года назад +8

      Exactly

    • @thetoptige8014
      @thetoptige8014 3 года назад +12

      Makes sense for most of those guys, but what about Haskins, he was projected to be a top 5 pick

    • @riquetc0060
      @riquetc0060 3 года назад +11

      @@thetoptige8014 The only real bust here.

    • @kdsburneraccount7476
      @kdsburneraccount7476 3 года назад +14

      @@thetoptige8014 By that logic, Jamarcus Russell shoulda been proof that all LSU QBs are busts and therefore joe burrow shouldn't have been drafted highly

    • @thetoptige8014
      @thetoptige8014 3 года назад +2

      @@kdsburneraccount7476what logic are you talking about? I just most these players weren’t expected to have success, and Haskins was a bust

  • @2liveproductions132
    @2liveproductions132 3 года назад +327

    Osu never recruited nfl qbs and none of them were projected to do anything in the nfl except Haskins

    • @southfieldtrill9690
      @southfieldtrill9690 3 года назад +48

      Finally someone who knows what they talking about.💯

    • @S.-.V
      @S.-.V 3 года назад +32

      Exactly. TP was just an athlete, period. Brax is a mulligan because a position change due to injury, CJ12 was never projected to do anything and Haskins went to the absolute worst situation he could have, outside maybe the Jets.

    • @RevAlSharptonz
      @RevAlSharptonz 3 года назад +8

      I mean they were all four and five star recruits. Still disappointing that none of them could excel as a WR or on special teams or anywhere else. Still disappointing no matter how you look at it.

    • @dennisrobison6514
      @dennisrobison6514 3 года назад +2

      Low expectations is a buckeye trend ?

    • @2liveproductions132
      @2liveproductions132 3 года назад +9

      @@dennisrobison6514 huh ? Nobody said anything like that

  • @paulstewart2251
    @paulstewart2251 3 года назад +103

    We have had our bust yes. But most of these QB's wasn't expected to be NFL greats smh

    • @RevAlSharptonz
      @RevAlSharptonz 3 года назад +8

      Weren’t* smh
      Ohio State disappoints again.

    • @virginiacapitalcoasters7033
      @virginiacapitalcoasters7033 3 года назад +7

      @@RevAlSharptonz unless your team is Alabama, they disappoint just as much

    • @RevAlSharptonz
      @RevAlSharptonz 3 года назад +3

      @@virginiacapitalcoasters7033 I am an alumnus of Alabama. I was trying to be polite and not call everyone a loser, but you did it for me. Including calling yourself one, what ever, you do you. Congrats on being a loser.

    • @virginiacapitalcoasters7033
      @virginiacapitalcoasters7033 3 года назад +1

      @@RevAlSharptonz ok, you got me there. I didn't interpret where you were going.

    • @virginiacapitalcoasters7033
      @virginiacapitalcoasters7033 3 года назад +1

      @@RevAlSharptonz Though you did call Ohio State a loser.

  • @joerieke300
    @joerieke300 3 года назад +119

    I'm an OSU fan that comments frequently on this channel, and yes I agree. All these guys were excellent college system QBs that obviously didn't have NFL talent. I have never understood why anyone thought differently. However, I believe Justin Fields has a shot of breaking the mold.

    • @jamesmarhen
      @jamesmarhen 3 года назад +26

      As an avid OSU hater I agree with you. With the exception of Haskins I don't consider any of the rest a bust. Cardale Jones had talent that scouts liked but they all had question marks and there was a reason he didn't go in the first round. Also, Urban Meyer's offense was not designed to develop a quarterbacks passing talent, they could still thrive but his offenses were designed to be run oriented with run spread focus. Fields is incredibly talented, the past failures of OSU quarterbacks has zero bearing on Fields future success or failure because if people didn't have such short memories they would know you should never draft a Texas Tech quarterback in the 1st round, their offense is gimmicky, none of their quarterbacks have ever been successful, they're all system generated so despite the talent of Patrick Mahomes you should be wary of him because history says Texas Tech is a bust factory...ooops.

    • @brettk9316
      @brettk9316 3 года назад

      70/30 Bust/good or better for Fields. He has lots of issues to correct if a team can then maybe he be alright.

    • @216standonit4
      @216standonit4 3 года назад +2

      Troy Smith was developing into an NFL starter before that bacterial infection derailed him. Other than that...I agree. Was having this discussion around the cfp with a Bama fan. Lowkey dumbfounding

    • @jayr399
      @jayr399 3 года назад +1

      Tape suggests fields is also a bust.

    • @joerieke300
      @joerieke300 3 года назад +2

      @@jayr399 so I guess your one of the experts in the film room just pouring over the film. Lmao🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @BigBrutus50
    @BigBrutus50 3 года назад +29

    Troy Smith wasnt actually bad in the NFL. He did go something like 6-2 under Mike Singletary before Harbaugh got there & looked like a legit starter.... but he had a short temper & came close to throwing blows with Mike Singletary his last game with the 49ers & legit ain’t been on a team since

    • @Ivantheterrible81280
      @Ivantheterrible81280 Год назад

      Good thing it didn’t happen. Even at his age Singletary would have ripped Troy to pieces.

  • @97.3greensports
    @97.3greensports 3 года назад +104

    My team is a QB bust factory but hopefully Justin changes it🤞

    • @tobig5956
      @tobig5956 3 года назад +18

      He won’t

    • @klizzard1691
      @klizzard1691 3 года назад +1

      I think if he goes to the 49ers he’ll be good

    • @basketballaddict2885
      @basketballaddict2885 3 года назад +4

      If he goes to the 49ers he’s pretty much a lock to be a hall of famer

    • @shrezzy0940
      @shrezzy0940 3 года назад +1

      Justin could

    • @fredwilson1188
      @fredwilson1188 3 года назад +8

      Tropical Cyclone-you dont know what the word “bust” means. A “bust” is when a player doesnt meet expectations, especially based on where they are drafted. USC is probably the best example of a “bust factory” with a ton of highly drafted QBs that turn out to have Below average NFL careers. When the average Ohio State QB is drafted in the 6th or 7th round (which means they arent expected to do much in the NFL), that doesnt really fit the word “bust”

  • @dibslin985
    @dibslin985 3 года назад +190

    Ohio State's system hides the weaknesses of college QBs, especially in recent years.

    • @S.-.V
      @S.-.V 3 года назад +29

      Really? The “system” over 3 coaching staffs? 😂 dumb take it dumb.

    • @kailanford2684
      @kailanford2684 3 года назад +5

      it really dosent we could all see the problems they had... Haskins was clearly not that great and you could see his weaknesses

    • @kailanford2684
      @kailanford2684 3 года назад +15

      and Justin runs a diffrent system than the others did

    • @8MoneyIzmyMission8
      @8MoneyIzmyMission8 3 года назад +14

      @@S.-.V yeah the system. Although systems very with each coach, what it boiled down to for a long while now was dual threat QBs running a spread offense. And not just dual threats, more like elite runners with good enough arms for college. That system and who Ohio St played covered up the elementary passing game.

    • @dibslin985
      @dibslin985 3 года назад +1

      @@8MoneyIzmyMission8 THIS.

  • @tianzi49
    @tianzi49 3 года назад +90

    How about doing a piece on all the NFL QB bust for the University of Alabama!

    • @cesarespinoza8110
      @cesarespinoza8110 3 года назад +3

      yea

    • @razorsharp4ever
      @razorsharp4ever 3 года назад +23

      Sorry , it doesn’t fit the mode of consistent SEC bias and constant big ten hate. So you probably won’t see a video on it.

    • @1Eashawty
      @1Eashawty 3 года назад +2

      A video about Brodie Croyle?

    • @dennisrobison6514
      @dennisrobison6514 3 года назад +9

      Bart Starr Joe Nameth Kenny Stabler Hurts and Tua doing fair Richard Todd

    • @dennisrobison6514
      @dennisrobison6514 3 года назад +2

      @@razorsharp4ever Winners attract bias ._. Roll Tide ._. Who wants a show about losers ? lmao

  • @drby0788
    @drby0788 3 года назад +26

    I wouldn't say they're busts. As a Buckeye fan, they've just never recruited "nfl" caliber QBs. I think Ryan Day is about to change that. He's an NFL guy, and he's recruiting some pretty high level talent at the position

    • @treyjefferson1149
      @treyjefferson1149 3 года назад

      Hopefully

    • @marcusprofit4709
      @marcusprofit4709 3 года назад +2

      Bro they went back 20 full years....not one of these guys were good NO EXCUSES lol

    • @jamarreid1082
      @jamarreid1082 3 года назад +1

      @@marcusprofit4709 20 full years of OSU ignoring NFL QBs to recruit athletes at that position. You did not disprove his point, idiot.

    • @marcusprofit4709
      @marcusprofit4709 3 года назад +1

      @@jamarreid1082 There's plenty of Athletes in the NFL now and before thats made it as a QB.....OSU has zero 🤦‍♂️

    • @jamarreid1082
      @jamarreid1082 3 года назад +4

      @@marcusprofit4709 no the hell there isn't lmao, name 1? Gtfoh with that BS lmao. I hope you aren't referring to QBs like Lamar or Cam, because they were definitely NFL level talented QBs. I could care less either way, but what he said is 100% fact. OSU literally just started recruiting NFL type QBs for Ryan Day's system, if Meyer had one he would've rode the bench because he needed an athlete to run his offense not a QB. Ryan Day's offense is completely different and so are the QBs he's recruited. CJ Stroud, Kyle McCord aren't Braxton Miller and JT Barrett types. You know it, everybody knows it. It's only hate that fuels this BS. Like Georgia Tech is going to field an NFL caliber QB when they were running a triple option offense lmao. Who in the fck has Alabama produced at QB despite being the dominant program in CFB for 2 decades? Exactly.

  • @jdolo4670
    @jdolo4670 3 года назад +41

    Haskins is the only "bust" on here none of these other guys were drafted high enough to qualify

    • @blackwidowsm
      @blackwidowsm 3 года назад +1

      Where you were drafted does not matter, it’s what you do with your NFL roster opportunity.

    • @jdolo4670
      @jdolo4670 3 года назад +4

      @@blackwidowsm that’s the stupidest way to think about this.....where you were drafted absolutely matters the reason why busts are such a big deal is because the Teams invest so much into them for them not to pan out.....taking a QB in the 6th round and having him not pan out is completely different than taking a QB 6th overall and having him not pan out there’s a lot more invested in the 6th overall pick

    • @foxbodyblues6709
      @foxbodyblues6709 3 года назад

      @@blackwidowsm it’s not the players fault where, or even if, they were drafted.

  • @jamesmarhen
    @jamesmarhen 3 года назад +13

    When you look at the history of all universities you come to one conclusion, none of them are quarterback factories that produce successful quarterbacks consistently. Purdue, yes Purdue, is one of the better quarterback factories in history but even they only produce the occasional good one. Historically Cal also is better than most but again, it's not as though they produce a ton of really successful quarterbacks so while yes, Ohio State is a bust factory but so is just about every other university.

    • @dennisrobison6514
      @dennisrobison6514 3 года назад

      Bart Starr ._. Joe Nameth ._. Kenny Stabler ._. Hurts and Tua doing fair ._. Mac Jones getting drafted ._. Richard Todd ._.

    • @jamesmarhen
      @jamesmarhen 3 года назад

      @@dennisrobison6514 getting drafted does not equal great. By that token USC far exceeds Alabama and the fact that you have to go back to Joe Namath and Kenny Stabler before getting to Tua proves my point and neither Tua or Hurts has proven much of anything yet. I hope they do succeed as I like Tua and Hurts, I'm not a hater but playing one year and not being a disaster doesn't mean they aren't busts, thankfully they have time to prove themselves.

    • @silentnothing02
      @silentnothing02 3 года назад +1

      Finally someone who gets it.....

    • @DEADSHOT-tv2fi
      @DEADSHOT-tv2fi 3 года назад

      Notra dame , montana and thiman but a lot of busts to no collage is a factory

    • @tpWeavile
      @tpWeavile 3 года назад

      @@dennisrobison6514 bro u can’t claim hurts what 😭

  • @bofi1280
    @bofi1280 3 года назад +15

    I don't think you can call Haskins a bust right now. He has to play 5 years before hand so we can see if he's consistently bad or if he improves.

    • @thelive6103
      @thelive6103 3 года назад +3

      I don't know getting cut the way he did does not bode well for the rest of his career.

    • @aidens290
      @aidens290 3 года назад +1

      @@thelive6103being cut has nothing to do with it... JJ Watt was cut, he didn’t do anything bad but the texans knew they were a terrible organization so they let him go to the team he wanted. Being cut has literally nothing to do with it, its who you play for. The Steelers coaching is good, they developed Ben. Ben is now a lock for the HoF. Going back to the Football Teams terrible coaching, they really didn’t give Haskins a chance. He was thrown into the game when he was least expecting it and wasn’t ready. He should have sat and learned from Smith and Rivera

    • @thelive6103
      @thelive6103 3 года назад +1

      @@aidens290 I understand what your saying, but JJ didn't get cut after 2 years. Look at Josh Rosen. When your a QB, you have to be a leader, and when your cut before your rookie contract ends, it's a bad look. He'll get another chance, probably as a backup, but if he doesn't perform, he'll be sitting next to Johnny Football and Jamarcus Russell. They ain't lying when they say NFL stands for Not For Long.

    • @michiganman43
      @michiganman43 2 года назад +3

      Welp um

    • @bofi1280
      @bofi1280 2 года назад

      @@michiganman43 Don't do that.

  • @PR3Z498
    @PR3Z498 3 года назад +11

    I didn’t even want JT Barrett coming back his last season. I wanted burrow or Haskins over him lmao especially after the Michigan game.

  • @michaeltalksfootball9364
    @michaeltalksfootball9364 3 года назад +41

    You should do Alabama next for the QB bust series

    • @antoniohoward5920
      @antoniohoward5920 3 года назад +3

      i dont think this comment will age well in a few years 🤣

    • @jimbo0386
      @jimbo0386 3 года назад +7

      @@antoniohoward5920 theyve still had just as many unsuccessful qbs as Ohio state lol

    • @pigskin1287
      @pigskin1287 3 года назад +10

      @@jimbo0386 Alabama has never really had big time QB recruits until recently, so you really can't call them busts, no one excepted them to be more than game managers.

    • @antoniohoward5920
      @antoniohoward5920 3 года назад

      @@pigskin1287 exactly lol . And no other alabama qb has Put up as many passing yards as our recent qbs . OSU stills runs the same system and bama started changing their style of play which is distributing the ball to 3-4 different wrs .

    • @kb24shortoreo21
      @kb24shortoreo21 3 года назад +1

      Lol you mad huh

  • @cblack8114
    @cblack8114 3 года назад +6

    BUST, funny how Haskins was the 1st OSU QB to get drafted in the 1st round since 1982 , all other QBs were drafted in the 3rd round or later. Please tell me how many 3rd round or later QBs are balling in the NFL.

    • @paraflax9198
      @paraflax9198 3 года назад

      tOm bRaDy

    • @wyattsnider8966
      @wyattsnider8966 3 года назад

      Dak
      Brady
      Russ

    • @cblack8114
      @cblack8114 3 года назад +1

      @@wyattsnider8966 true, thats 3 out of 32 but if they weren't balling would they be considered bust.

  • @Boss3Nate
    @Boss3Nate 3 года назад +11

    The Bellisari hype was unreal when he showed up on the Ohio State campus. He was a complete bust in college tho. Zwick had absurd hype as well...

  • @t.k.1319
    @t.k.1319 3 года назад +3

    Can we shift this focus to Urban Meyer? Outside of Troy Smith and Dwayne Haskins, all of these QBs played under Meyer. Has Urban Meyer developed a consistently successful NFL QB other than Alex Smith? No. He runs a gimmick system that Ryan Day inherited. Meyer’s system doesn’t require an execrations level of aptitude in the traits that make solid NFL QBs.

  • @MUMSUniverse
    @MUMSUniverse 3 года назад +32

    Here's to Justin Fields breaking out & having a long great NFL career. 🐻⬇️

  • @craigjones9992
    @craigjones9992 3 года назад +14

    "We ain't tryna produce NFL QBs so shut up"- Buckeye fans who don't approve of the video title.

  • @allanhee
    @allanhee 3 года назад +2

    Urban Meyer gets too much credit for developing QBs. Meyer had 4 years to work on Tebow's mechanics, but was probably too busy winning games to care about Tebow's long-term future as a QB.

    • @KimbroughFilms
      @KimbroughFilms 3 года назад

      Maybe the dumbest thing I’ve heard all day

  • @dt2471
    @dt2471 3 года назад +4

    Joe burrow was at Ohio State for 3 years and he is not a NFL bust. He spent more time at Ohio State than LSU.

    • @8MoneyIzmyMission8
      @8MoneyIzmyMission8 3 года назад +1

      Lol, no he's not an OSU product, that's all LSU, unless you're saying Fields is also not an OSU product.
      Being a backup or third stringer doesn't tie you to any school.

    • @dibslin985
      @dibslin985 3 года назад

      It was LSU where he actually thrived and got his draft stock up. He doesn't count

    • @famousdre843
      @famousdre843 3 года назад

      @@8MoneyIzmyMission8 fields is not technically he transfer to Ohio state

  • @keokihiga8462
    @keokihiga8462 3 года назад +1

    Mahomes (Texas Tech), Brady (Michigan), Josh Allen (Wyoming), Matt Stafford (Georgia), Aaron Rodgers (Cal), Russell Wilson (Wisconsin/NC State), Lamar Jackson (Louisville), Drew Brees (Purdue), Joe Burrow (LSU).
    It's pretty much random and you can't single out one school as being a bust factory.

    • @michiganman43
      @michiganman43 2 года назад

      Michigan is a bust factory we waste lots of talent

  • @ScottFisherCFB
    @ScottFisherCFB  3 года назад +3

    What topic should I do next?

    • @thebluefox6494
      @thebluefox6494 3 года назад +1

      Rise of Lincoln Riley

    • @mauricejr55
      @mauricejr55 3 года назад +2

      What happened to lamichal James Oregon RB

    • @mauricejr55
      @mauricejr55 3 года назад

      Downfall Florida state

    • @rhettwalker2236
      @rhettwalker2236 3 года назад

      Did you do a video yet on how oklahoma is a quarterback factory?

    • @deakon071
      @deakon071 3 года назад

      Wisconsin running backs from ron dayne to Johnathan Taylor

  • @HowieCarson
    @HowieCarson 3 года назад +11

    Troy Smith had no pro hype. No one realistically thought he’d be anything in the pros. There’s a reason why he was selected so late

    • @famousdre843
      @famousdre843 3 года назад

      Exactly

    • @dominicfm2189
      @dominicfm2189 3 года назад

      Troy Smith would of been a high draft pick if he had his college career now. Then the league didn't value small mobile QBs as they do now.
      Even Pryor might of had a better chance had he been on a team that would of ran a Lamar jackson type offence

  • @anondescriptobserver6774
    @anondescriptobserver6774 3 года назад +6

    One of my favorite ESPN talking head schticks is Todd McShay's unfounded hype for tall Big Ten QBs. He loved Nate Stanley and Mitch Leidner. Lord help us all if Purdue's Jack Plummer breaks out this fall, because you know he'll be all over Spencer Petras.

    • @RyanJ504
      @RyanJ504 3 года назад

      Ricky Stanzi, too!

  • @zachscott4096
    @zachscott4096 3 года назад +2

    29 year old Michigan fan here no QB gives me more nightmarish memories then Troy Smith dude was truly the best QB in OSU history

  • @nascar_vault
    @nascar_vault 10 месяцев назад +1

    Fields and Stroud thankfully aren’t busts at the moment. Haskins was getting much better before he passed away.

  • @jamesbaldon8564
    @jamesbaldon8564 3 года назад +5

    THANK YOU......I knew I wasn't the only one who thought that OSU QBs just don't pan out

    • @NFL.Marqus
      @NFL.Marqus 3 года назад +1

      Say it again for the people who think they’re team should take justin fields

    • @charliegriffey7773
      @charliegriffey7773 3 года назад +2

      Has literally nothing to do with Fields. Fields is the first pro style quarterback in the system of a new coach. Urban is not the coach anymore. And it is the laziest type of analysis to say just because of a jersey he can't be successful. Then Deshaun Watson and Tua should have never been drafted. Certainly not Burrow.

    • @the-bv5mb
      @the-bv5mb 3 года назад +1

      @@NFL.Marqus The past OSU QBs aren't connected to Fields at all

    • @NFL.Marqus
      @NFL.Marqus 3 года назад

      @@the-bv5mb But what’s the closest thing that makes them connected

    • @the-bv5mb
      @the-bv5mb 3 года назад +2

      @@NFL.Marqus Nothing. Ohio State is just text next to their names, it doesn't affect their careers

  • @arthurjr4255
    @arthurjr4255 3 года назад +8

    That was Jim Tressel and Urban Meyer's recruits. Ryan Day is getting real QB's

  • @jqk369
    @jqk369 3 года назад +4

    Feel free to let me know if I'm late to the party, but can we get a vid for Alabama QBs?? The past few have probably had 80%-90% winning percentages but never do well in the NFL. I remember as far back as John Parker Wilson and how great he was in college.

    • @dennisrobison6514
      @dennisrobison6514 3 года назад

      Bart Starr Joe Nameth Kenny Stabler

    • @longgirl5
      @longgirl5 3 года назад +1

      @@dennisrobison6514 😂😂😂 and you weren’t alive when any of those qb’s were playing 😂😂😂 if you have to got back over 35 to 40 years to name good Alabama QB’s then that’s a problem..

  • @iNeverHadMercy
    @iNeverHadMercy 3 года назад +4

    9:03 Miller and Barrett are College Football QB legends 🍻💯

  • @pantherteen1997
    @pantherteen1997 Год назад +1

    12:12 sadly it didn’t happen and what was heartbreaking was that Haskins ended up losing his life to a car accident. May he Rest In Peace

  • @mackinmobbin5102
    @mackinmobbin5102 3 года назад +1

    You can’t call 5th and 3rd round picks “NFL Busts” especially if they became NFL starters. There’s only one QB that was a NFL bust in Buckeye history and that was Haskins, who’s NFL story is still being written. You can do this video about any college program. Alabama and USC are the real NFL QB busts factory.

  • @Jay18839
    @Jay18839 3 года назад +1

    Braxton Miller- didn't even play QB his last yr and was drafted as a reciever
    JT Barrett- went undrafted and was never a top QB prospect
    Troy Smith- 5th round pick
    Pryor- 3rd round pick in supplemental draft
    Did you even research this shit? None of these guy were ever considered good QB prospects only Haskins.

  • @jonblue1417
    @jonblue1417 3 года назад +1

    Yo, I never thought of this before, but their QB’s SUCK in the NFL. Why would any kid with NFL dreams go their to play QB?
    This list speaks for itself.

    • @kendraftman
      @kendraftman Год назад

      Same thing with QB's from Alabama,

  • @Richy_Gee
    @Richy_Gee 3 года назад +8

    “Justin fields led his team to an undefeated regular season.”
    Yes that’s true, but it was 5 wins 😂

  • @NickWeissMusic
    @NickWeissMusic 3 года назад +1

    I think you could make a case for every college being a bust factory lol.

  • @nathanosborne3834
    @nathanosborne3834 3 года назад +2

    The problem with Ohio states qbs isn’t that they’re bad or that osu doesn’t develop them just at the time they weren’t nfl type quarterbacks there’s a reason there’s a difference between pro type and dual threat qb most of osu qbs have mean dual threat which hasn’t worked in the nfl j tik recently

  • @justinmyers6737
    @justinmyers6737 3 года назад +1

    Not a single one projected as an NFL starting QB. Even Haskins, probably projected more as a backup. Only desperation and a weak QB class thrust him into being top 20 pick.

  • @dot3079
    @dot3079 3 года назад

    Rabid buckeye fan here. I actually tried my hardest to watch this with no bias. JT Barrett was the worst blessing Ohio state ever received. Great leader, great game manager his whole career. But him playing for 4 years is the soul reason Joe Burrow and Dwayne Haskins sat the bench for way longer than they should have. Everything happens for a reason tho. It still crushes my heart to think of what Braxton could have been. 12 gauge could have been a lot better as well. All in all, we’ll see what our next few qbs do. Glad this narrative keeps getting painted, gives our future quarterbacks a chip on their shoulder comin into “qb bust U”.

  • @AEMT-ks4so
    @AEMT-ks4so 3 года назад +2

    Im interested to see Texas a&m on this list. Tannehill was overhyped but has developed into a solid starter. And realistically anyone who studies football knew manziels play style wasnt going to translate to long term success even if he went to a team that did want him. Other than that, stephen mcgee played solid football when he did play and i think thats it. Lol

  • @the-bv5mb
    @the-bv5mb 3 года назад +6

    They've produced one bust over the past 40 years

  • @Mokuteke
    @Mokuteke 3 года назад +6

    I blame this on simple offenses since Ryan day has been there for the ones before him I don’t know

    • @kailanford2684
      @kailanford2684 3 года назад +1

      Ryan Day runs a whole diffrent offense then Urban Meyer did with the busts

    • @richardjoseph8683
      @richardjoseph8683 3 года назад

      @@kailanford2684 Wrong same sad ass offense just tweaked a little bit

    • @THEYWANTMIAH
      @THEYWANTMIAH 3 года назад +2

      @@richardjoseph8683 tell me you don’t the difference between option- spread and pro style offenses without telling me you don’t know between option- spread and pro style offenses.

  • @basketballaddict2885
    @basketballaddict2885 3 года назад +2

    I’m pretty sure Pryor had a 1,000 yard season with the browns as a receiver

    • @kailanford2684
      @kailanford2684 3 года назад +1

      He did but every Qb on thi list other than haskins didnt have any expectations at the pro level

  • @Avianers
    @Avianers 3 года назад +11

    Ryan Day is gonna produce a lot of great NFL QB's

  • @maribtw8275
    @maribtw8275 3 года назад +2

    As a Michigan fan damn near all big 10 qbs are bust I don’t understand it

    • @rmichels05
      @rmichels05 3 года назад +2

      Big 10 isn’t a passing league, the big 10 is known for physical play, lots of good running backs and linemen from the big 10

    • @philliphortonRanger501
      @philliphortonRanger501 3 года назад +2

      The big ten has the likes of Tom Brady ( Michigan) and drew brees(Purdue) I mean so they did something LOL , all comes down to that person work habit and luck sometimes

    • @maribtw8275
      @maribtw8275 3 года назад

      @@philliphortonRanger501 no shit captain obvious...

    • @kailanford2684
      @kailanford2684 3 года назад

      really no Big 10 qbs were busts cause they didnt have any expectations in the pros

    • @maribtw8275
      @maribtw8275 3 года назад

      @@kailanford2684 the point is they never do. And the only person that really had big expectations was drew brees. Lol

  • @Sneakycastro69
    @Sneakycastro69 3 года назад +1

    Just because they haven’t had a good qb in the NFL doesn’t mean they never will. They have the second most nfl hall of famers in history so I have faith that fields will now break that Qb streak for not only bucks but for bears, who have the most hall of famers in history.

  • @DimitriCaverMusic
    @DimitriCaverMusic 3 года назад +2

    Enjoy your videos. I thought you would mention transfer Joe Burrow as final proof against Ohio State 😂

  • @barnyard9058
    @barnyard9058 3 года назад

    I'm a die-hard Michigan fan but even I can only really consider Haskins and Smith NFL busts nobody expected the rest of them to do anything in the league.

  • @wholesomecomment45
    @wholesomecomment45 3 года назад +1

    Meanwhile Bama haven't had a successful QB since Ken Stabler, BYU since Steve Young, North Dakota State's best QB being Carson Wentz which is a big uh besidss Watson, Clemson also essentially never had a good QB

  • @gregshoopman6369
    @gregshoopman6369 3 года назад +1

    I think it is offensive system. Haskins can still work and I think fields is going to work. Ryan day runs a more pro style offense and he’s a better QB developer than myer

  • @dubdeuce1517
    @dubdeuce1517 3 года назад +1

    I think Cardale had one of the greatest college stories.

  • @ScumsaveChris
    @ScumsaveChris 3 года назад +1

    Haskins may have saved his career by going to Pittsburg.

  • @JosephMiller-hu7bq
    @JosephMiller-hu7bq 4 месяца назад

    Pryor may have played into days style of game , back then instead of using what they could do, no pocket only pocket QB . THAT why Cordell Stewart was like a shock but Randell Chunningham showed the future

  • @jayjurrassick1134
    @jayjurrassick1134 3 года назад +8

    So that's why Justin Fields Draft Stock is dropping 🤔

    • @Mokuteke
      @Mokuteke 3 года назад +9

      And that fact that his film shows he has a bad processor

    • @kingmisaelxxx1267
      @kingmisaelxxx1267 3 года назад +5

      He is going to San Francisco 49ers

    • @shrezzy0940
      @shrezzy0940 3 года назад

      @@kingmisaelxxx1267 ok

    • @kailanford2684
      @kailanford2684 3 года назад +8

      @@Mokuteke actually thats not true... Justin has the highest completion percentage when going to 2nd and 3rd reads lol he can read the field

    • @kailanford2684
      @kailanford2684 3 года назад +4

      @@Mokuteke he just dont have to majority of the time cause his 1st read is sually open

  • @LawrenceRussellSaturnSelection
    @LawrenceRussellSaturnSelection 3 года назад +1

    As a Bears fan if Fields is a bust it will be horrible for chicago.

  • @newmedia5255
    @newmedia5255 3 года назад +2

    How dare you Scott Fisher!!

  • @louispapp7722
    @louispapp7722 3 года назад +1

    Cardale didn't have success in the XFL he was benched in his second game.

  • @pamrichards3601
    @pamrichards3601 3 года назад +1

    You should do a video on D III The Mount Union Purple Raiders on the National Championship's through the 90's, 2000's.

    • @ohioboy1878
      @ohioboy1878 3 года назад

      Yes just do all the ohio colleges

  • @abzeromusic
    @abzeromusic 3 года назад

    Every school is an NFL QB bust factory. There are so few successful NFL quarterbacks it's almost random where they come from. Even the best programs aren't successfully at pumping out to NFL caliber QBs

  • @daiconoclast
    @daiconoclast 3 года назад

    Craig Krenzel was not a bust, just got a raw deal in the NFL. They should've kept him instead of Rex Grossman. Had they done so, they would've had a better chance of winning the Super Bowl that next season.
    Justin Zwick was a bust.
    Troy Smith got a raw deal as well and never had a coaching staff that supported him---only one that was looking for a high-profile draft pick or acquisition to replace him---even when he was playing well in his limited starts.
    Terrelle Pryor didn't have the best coaching for his skillset. That's what really hampered and limited him from being Cam Newton type great. Then he too went to a franchise with a novice of a head coach in Hugh Jackson who never wanted him as his QB. He needed that extra fourth year in order to fully prep himself for playing QB in the NFL and he didn't.
    Braxton Miller was greatly impacted by that shoulder injury at the end of his junior season in the Orange Bowl against Clemson. Then later that summer before he sustained another injury which ended his career as a QB. So for him, it was just bad luck basically and he should've been prepared to play wide receiver long before that.
    J.T. Barrett was never quite the same after that injury he sustained in the Michigan game in 2014. He'd show flashes afterwards throughout the remainder of his career but still not the same. I believe he was as good as Colt McCoy who is still a career backup in the NFL but J.T. was never granted that level of grace by the NFL.
    Had Cardale Jones left for the NFL after winning the national title, he would've been on a JaMarcus Russell type run in the Draft. He likely would've gone no later than late in the first round, early 2nd. But because he didn't feel he was quite ready for the league, he cost himself. Cost himself because he had to learn under a new QBs coach and Offensive Coordinator. He finished his Buckeye career at 11-0 and had a chance to redeem his career in the resurgent XFL but then they shut down out of nowhere and POOF there went any chance of Cardale getting another shot at the NFL.
    The book is still not written on Dwayne Haskins but there's no doubt that had he went to the Giants where he really wanted to be, who knows where he'd be right now. He instead went to the Washington franchise with an owner who wanted him but a head coach who did not. That definitely didn't help his cause early on so let's see if he can rebound in Pittsburgh.
    Justin Fields is the total package in terms of a true dual threat QB. Who unlike Braxton Miller,Terrelle Pryor and J.T. Barrett is a better passer---far more accurate. One who is pass first, run as a last option but highly effective whenever he chooses to. So in order for him to break the Buckeye QB curse in the Draft, he'll need to get picked by a quality franchise which will fully commit to him and build around him.
    Last, the one QB you forgot to mention was Todd Boeckman who followed Troy Smith and preceded Terrelle Pryor.

  • @DjDaDj3
    @DjDaDj3 3 года назад +1

    Every school could be argued as a QB bust factory lol outside of Oklahoma (recently) and in 5 years who knows where all those guys will end up?

  • @jessesevens
    @jessesevens 3 года назад +1

    Damn near every legendary quarterback in the league comes from a lower echelon school I mean drew brees Purdue Tom Brady Michigan Peyton manning Tennessee pat mahomes Texas tech quarterback back bust isn’t a Ohio state trend it’s a blue blood college trend the only two blue bloods recently who have produced quarterbacks that we know aren’t busy are Oklahoma and Clemson

  • @Hawkwing4567
    @Hawkwing4567 3 года назад

    I'm not gonna lie, the only OSU quarterback that has ever won a Super Bowl ring was Joe Germaine in 1999...and that was prior to being a backup with the then St. Louis Rams (Before the name changed). After Germaine, no other OSU quarterback had came close to a ring like how he did.
    What were looking at now, Haskins, now with the Steelers, "could" have a chance to have that ring...if the Steelers can fix their holes on offense and defense in the draft, maybe they'll be ready for 2021.

  • @gavinreupert8453
    @gavinreupert8453 5 месяцев назад

    CJ Stroud like Nah imma be great

  • @MrScotty2Hotty28
    @MrScotty2Hotty28 3 года назад

    Great video Scott! But you forgot their biggest bust ever in Art Schlicter. 4th overall pick in 1982 to the Colts and only started 6 games ever in the NFL, got suspended indefinitely due to gambling and finished his career with 3 TDs, 11 picks, and a 42.6 rating. He may not have been #1 overall but he's certainly up there with Leaf and Russell. Tom Tupa and Bobby Hoying weren't good as QBs at all as well.

  • @studiedturtle4139
    @studiedturtle4139 Год назад

    As an OSU I don't care how good they do in the NFL just as long as they do good for The Ohio State University

  • @johnfoster8643
    @johnfoster8643 3 года назад

    Idk if I would say they were busts because most of those guys were not expected to do anything in the NFL, except for Haskins and obviously Fields

  • @HerStraw
    @HerStraw 3 года назад +1

    The only potential "BUST" is Haskins. You can't be a bust if you're projected to go 5th round or worse... again just like the Ohio State 2021 analysis video... this video is TERRIBLE. There's no bust here.

  • @JackassHill
    @JackassHill 3 года назад

    I think in order to be a bust there has to be hype, right? How many Ohio St. QBs have been drafted in the 1st round? Art Schlicter, Dwayne Haskins, and Justin Fields? Jury's still out on 2 of those guys. They call USC "Quarterback U", and look at the guys who haven't or never lived up to the hype: Sam Darnold, Mark Sanchez, Matt Leinart, Carson Palmer, Todd Marinovich... None of those guys were worth a 1st round pick except Palmer, and he was the 1st overall pick. Matt Barkley would've been a 1st round pick if he came out his Junior year as expected.

  • @rchurch2769
    @rchurch2769 2 года назад +1

    No more than any other major college. I can't think of any school that would even be considered a successful NFL QB factory.

    • @nelspas0191
      @nelspas0191 Год назад

      I think the reason why Ohio state is singled out has to do with them producing some of the best nfl talent at every position except qb. Just an interesting thing to look at

  • @kennethwright9631
    @kennethwright9631 Год назад

    The difference between Michigan and OSU is that Tom Brady came from Michigan and no one has ever come from Ohio State. My advice to NFL GMs - don't waste your first round pick on CJ Stroud - the odds are against you.

  • @DavidBrielmaier
    @DavidBrielmaier 3 года назад

    People are surprised a quarterback that played in a "high school" offense could not translate to an NFL offense?

  • @garcia26vega
    @garcia26vega 3 года назад

    You failed to mention Greg Fry, Bobby Hoying, Kurt Krenzel, & Joe Jermaine...

  • @ScottFisherCFB
    @ScottFisherCFB  3 года назад +1

    What’s another school that produces busts at a certain position group?

    • @TheSportsandFilmFellowship
      @TheSportsandFilmFellowship 3 года назад

      @TheRapper10000 Saquan, Noah Cain

    • @zombiebats52
      @zombiebats52 3 года назад

      @@TheSportsandFilmFellowship every team will have a few successful guys

    • @pittland44
      @pittland44 3 года назад

      @TheRapper10000 Yeah, that's a good one.

    • @rmichels05
      @rmichels05 3 года назад

      @TheRapper10000 the last 2 guys have been really good

    • @rmichels05
      @rmichels05 3 года назад

      @TheRapper10000 idk about busts but Wisconsin is an OL factory, they’ll block for a 2,000 yard back every year then become decade long starters with multiple pro bowls

  • @samueljohnston9639
    @samueljohnston9639 3 года назад +1

    Their most successful qb is Tom Tupa... the punter

  • @darryljones8195
    @darryljones8195 8 месяцев назад

    Terrell Pryor was made for today's NFL.He ruined his career and no team ever put a system in place to show off his skills

  • @jasonwarner6323
    @jasonwarner6323 3 года назад

    There have been 5 really great college qbs play for the buckeyes this century. Plus one who became a legend over 3 games. Smith who was something like a 6th round pick, Pryor who was a supplemental pick by the Raiders (who got laughed at about it. Miller who got injured and was drafted as a wr because of it. Barratt who wasn't drafted, Haskins who has been not very good. And Fields who was drafted 11th. Jones who is the 3 game legend was a 3 star and got drafted. Like most 3 stars he was a backup for a few years. So there have been 2 qbs drafted in the first or second rounds. The last two. 2 of the guys in this video were not even drafted as qbs. Balisarie as a S and Miller as a wr. pryor,smith,kenzal were later round draft picks. Qbs after the 2nd round are not expected to do anything. Most don't even stick the first year. Zwick was a bust all around. As for their college careers. Smith,Miller,Barrett,Jones,Haskins,and Fields were the the best Buckeye qb ever in different ways. Smith the best Ever vs UM, Miller the greatest runner, Barrett the greatest game understanding, Jones the greatest arm, Haskins The greatest passer, Fields the most talented and best all around qb.

  • @MVuke84
    @MVuke84 3 года назад

    I'm born and breed scarlet and grey, and can't argue with this... so far. Don't forget Burrow was a Buckeye, and we'll see what happens with Fields. Pretty much everyone else though, couldn't hack it in the NFL.

  • @POTUS495
    @POTUS495 3 года назад +1

    Hi! I think that you should do a video on Texas A&M video, also, I am doing a series on them!

  • @chunter3882
    @chunter3882 3 года назад

    Yeah it's true. I'm from Columbus, Ohio, we have great NFL linebackers, running back, offensive line, defensive line, cornerbacks, receivers, centers. But our Quarterbacks never work out in the NFL. My friend owns a card shop and he was spending $$$ on Dewayne Haskins and I told him we have never produced a Super Bowl Winning Quarterback. But he thought Haskins would break the mold. Guess I was right

  • @mkw7623
    @mkw7623 3 года назад +1

    Post a video about Clemson and their defensive linemen and how they've panned out

  • @Wrestlingfan299
    @Wrestlingfan299 3 года назад

    Don’t like calling them a bust factory. It’s there job to win football games. Not develop NFL quarterbacks.

  • @WillSlags
    @WillSlags 3 года назад

    Conclusion: Ohio State recruits great college QB's that are good for their team, not the NFL's

  • @StevenEvens7125
    @StevenEvens7125 3 года назад +1

    I'm a Buckeye for life but... this is a sad but true fact smh. Krenzel? Hoying? Germaine? It's been rough. Pound for pound I'd take Pryor as my generations favorite at least lol. And say what u want but I'm claiming Joe Burrow as a Buckeye. And for the record: for one reason or another I'm afraid Fields will suffer the same curse as the rest. He _might_ flash real quick but... I mean the curse is real.
    #Buckeyes4Life.

  • @TheMcr15
    @TheMcr15 3 года назад

    Good video, keep up the good work

  • @TheClhWarrior
    @TheClhWarrior 3 года назад +2

    You missed Scott McMullen and Todd Boeckman. They both played in the NFL as well.

    • @isaiahvincent1008
      @isaiahvincent1008 3 года назад +1

      Noticed he skipped Boeckman in 07

    • @ScottFisherCFB
      @ScottFisherCFB  3 года назад +1

      I missed someone?

    • @isaiahvincent1008
      @isaiahvincent1008 3 года назад +2

      @@ScottFisherCFB Yes I don't remember McMullen. But Boeckman was a starter I believe in 07 when they lost to LSU in national championship. He got passed obviously by Pryor in 08. This coming from a Michigan fan lol.

    • @TheClhWarrior
      @TheClhWarrior 3 года назад +1

      @@isaiahvincent1008 McMullen was Krenzel's backup. Krenzel was hurt and out a couple games so McMullen started. He wasn't a big player for OSU but he did start for them a couple of times.

  • @MrKevinEaddy
    @MrKevinEaddy 3 года назад

    Some other channel said Georgia was the QB Bust Factory.. Georgia has Matthew Stafford, Ohio State has Mike Tomczack

  • @StephenSteen
    @StephenSteen 3 года назад

    "He went undrafted and never lived up to his NFL hype." What!?

  • @Hic_Sunt_Leones-o7v
    @Hic_Sunt_Leones-o7v 3 года назад +1

    Oklahoma was a bust factory until Baker came in

    • @syedahmed7130
      @syedahmed7130 3 года назад

      Oklahoma had Troy Aikman too. The best OSU can claim is Mike Tomczak. Tom Tupa became a punter at the NFL level lol.

    • @Hic_Sunt_Leones-o7v
      @Hic_Sunt_Leones-o7v 3 года назад

      @@syedahmed7130 aikman completed 33 passes as a sooner
      He's not a OU product

    • @syedahmed7130
      @syedahmed7130 3 года назад +1

      @@Hic_Sunt_Leones-o7v yeah I forgot he transferred to UCLA and made his name there.

    • @Hic_Sunt_Leones-o7v
      @Hic_Sunt_Leones-o7v 3 года назад

      @@syedahmed7130 yeah I'd love to claim Aikman as a Sooner fan but I know that I can't
      Seriously odd that he's a UCLA product Everytime I get reminded that it just shocks me

  • @scottmann4093
    @scottmann4093 3 года назад

    I forgot just how overhyped Justin Zwick was coming out of Massillon Washington. He originally went to school in Orrville, Ohio but his dad became the assistant super of Massillon City Schools before his senior year (coincidence much???) and Justin was suppose to bring "title town" its first real state title. That did not happen and he was suppose to be a stud in Columbus but never lived up that hype either. And....Joe Bauserman LOL. Wow, I completely forgot about that dude....for a reason. That being said not too many of these guys were ever projected to be stud QB's on Sundays anyways so I'm not sure I'd call any of them busts necessarily. These were mostly just guys who got the job done under a great system.

  • @mlang28
    @mlang28 3 года назад

    I'm old I remember Greg Frey. But I'm surprise you didn't start with Joe Germaine and Stanley Jackson. Good vid though

  • @official_savage9027
    @official_savage9027 3 года назад

    In 130 years not one osu qb has done anything significant past college.

  • @tonikroosassistingyousince5973
    @tonikroosassistingyousince5973 3 года назад +1

    R.i.p Justin Fields NFL career

  • @cypher787
    @cypher787 3 года назад

    It's not even the last 20 years. Ohio state has literally never produced a good pro qb in their entire history

  • @roccospinelli5642
    @roccospinelli5642 3 года назад

    Bama and OSU never claimed to be QB factories. Fields should do well. Ryan Day is on the road to changing that

  • @thecoldking8170
    @thecoldking8170 3 года назад

    Art Schlichter a prime OSU QB who ended up being a bust for the Colts and got banned for Gambling♦♣♥♠

  • @southfieldtrill9690
    @southfieldtrill9690 3 года назад +2

    OSU only had 2 QBs ever drafted in the first round😂 Art Schlister and Dwayne Haskins. People aslo fell to recognize OSU never went after Top rated High school QB's. When people get to talking about OSU QB's are always bust they lose all creditably.
    When u win a lot people will start looking for the dumbest reason's to hate on u.

  • @killerdrew99
    @killerdrew99 3 года назад +1

    To this day, I still feel that Braxton Miller could have been a great NFL QB. Like a Prototypical Lamar Jackson b4 Lamar. Dude had all the athleticism and had a nice arm.