Here are YOUR PICKS of mentors in games who had nothing good to teach you. Can you think of even more terrible mentors in games? Shout in the comments if so, and enjoy!
In my opinion. Batman from injustice 2 is a bad mentor. He literally "tries" to train Damian not to kill people but what does Damian do five minutes later, hmmmm oh yeah. He kills zaaz right in front of batman and after that,Damian is tooken away by a better trainer and father figure super man. to be trained better
Have we considered that maybe the old man IS the sword? He probably isn't but if he was that would explain things....except why he doesn't ever speak to you again. Either way he's a horrible teacher.
Madarame from Persona 5, not only does he steal from his students but he also causes some to kill themselves and basically killed his most prized pupils mother.
Outside Xtra SWTOR. All the mentors try to kill you, get possessed and then try to kill you, get killed, fail to realize superiors or underlings are actually traitors or villains or, some combination of those. Pick any class story, the mentor does something wrong.
That awkward look you share with your "mentor and best friend since childhood" when together you defeat the "big bad guy" 4 hours into the 12 hour campaign.. o.O?
@@redlunatic2224 You don't necessarily need media for that to be true; actual thinking is a legit difficulty if not outright impossibility for far too many.
You know what they say, "When you play the game of presenter chairs, you play the clarinet well or you get strangled by Mrs Horsely's thugs." It's a very convoluted game.
When did Geralt talk about darkness? He's a monster slaying lothario who runs through tavern wenches like the monsters he hunts (at least when I'm playing as him, it's why I never have the orens for alchemy ingredients and weapons)
The "would you kindly" reveal in Bioshock absolutely blew me away, I got the game on release day and managed to play all the way through, spoiler free. Genuine jaw hitting floor moment.
never played the game at the time, I learned about the "would you kindly" twist liek 2 years later which was actually my reason to play the game. often I would play games like that a second time to see little hints the game drops that most people just wont get that early but having played it already i often rush the story. with this game I could look for all the little hints AND still slowly walk through the game and enjoy every corner
Ellen: to those inside the fandom, are you getting enough fresh air? Answer: Nope! I step outside, and even my neighbor's flower garden is starting to "look like a good spot to find some ingredients!" It's safer if I just stay inside.
if you wanna skip spoilers/skip to a certain section: 1. 0:40 jade empire 2. 3:34 portal 2 3. 6:26 kingdom hearts: birth by sleep 4. 8:56 the legend of zelda 5. 10:41 bioshock 6: 12:53 fable II 7. 15:27 phoenix wright: ace attorney
Yes. I didn't know for sure but it sure sounded like it. Isn't that something that must be stated factually in these cases due to respect for a cultural icon? So and so... voiced by Leonard Nimoy... etc.
Watching the 1986 Transformers animated movie gets a bit weird after playing BBS, because Nimoy basically does the same voice for Xehanort that he did for Galvatron.
I love listening to Ellen talk about Kingdom Hearts, because everything in those games needs a ton of context to even make a bit of sense. And that's why I love them.
@@timothymclean even so you still have to explain the keyblade, light and darkness, and the idea of many worlds. But I do agree it is far less complicated than the later games.
@@kayleyanna3164 you don't even know what your objective is on KH1 other than traveling to find Riku and Kairi. He didn't really go out of his way to find the princesses it was just means to an end for him
I'd argue that Eraqus deserves a spot on this list more than Xehanort. Xehanort was far more successful in what he was _trying_ to teach Terra. Eraqus couldn't even pull _that_ off. Also, he tried to key-shiv Ventus to stop Xehanort from using him instead of _explaining anything._ If Eraqus taught his pupils instead of demonizing Terra, scapegoating Aqua, and ignoring Ven, then Xehanort's plan would never have come together as well as it did.
@@jackfrost9512 Even Aqua's distrust can really be blamed on Eraqus's bad teachings. He effectively tried to pound it into his students heads that darkness is pure evil no matter what, and Aqua was simply following the teachings of the only master she ever knew. There's a reason that, (particularly early in the game), she was incredibly naive despite Eraqus claiming she was ready to be a master. At least with Xehanort's teachings, he did actually help Terra to become stronger and gain a measure of control over the darkness, and didn't say to completely reject the light in its entirety as though it was despicable. It's just that making Terra stronger was a secondary portion of his true goal......
Considering Von Karma was Edgeworth mentor and practically like a father to him, it is a miracle that Edgeworth is actually good character with a kind heart... I love when Maya or Phoenix are in trouble how we can see how much Edgeworth cares about them
@@stealthobjection5311 Just because he idolized his actual father, was traumatized by the idea of maybe having killed him, and was inspired to become a lawyer by his real father, doesn't mean Von Karma didn't become an influential father figure to Edgeworth for the latter half of his childhood and adulthood. In fact he spent more time raised by Von Karma than his biological dead dad, and became a prosecutor whereas he originally wanted to be a defense attorney like his father. Also, Franziska refers to him as a brother, since Von Karma literally adopted him and raised him alongside his real daughter. Maybe YOU should think harder and replay the games, if you can't see that a boy who lost his dad when he was 9 years old can't have a secondary father figure.
@@deathbykonami5487 I keep a lock pick and torsion wrench in my wallet. Seriously not joking. I aced learning that for the eventuality of zombie-apocalypse scenarios. A lot of people don't realize how easy it is to pick 90% of most locks.
I was about to apply for that open intern job with your company, but after seeing the shady dealings and internal politics, I think I will take my chances with guard duty in Kings Landing, at the Red Keep.
Ok so I know this isn't particularly a mentor.. But the first boss fight in ff7. Barret clearly asks you to attack the scorpions tail when it's up. "Oh ok! Good plan! I will do as you say!" Oh wait. I'm dead? Well gee thanks barret. Glad to have you along for the ride! (I know this is a translation error) but I can guarantee it got 90% of players on there 1st play through!
Atlas’s betrayal KILLED ME! I got way too invested in the story of bioshock... and then that shit betrayed me! I was rooting for him! And he betrayed me!
Darth Treya is honestly the best and the worst teacher. She both trains us to be the best version of ourselves, all the while setting up the destruction of the Jedi and the Force.
@@artturisiikanen3843 considering it's one of the main things helping to maintain life on some planets it would be catastrophic to destroy the force (supposing that it is fully possible)
I cannot impart the whole system shock I experienced at the Atlas Bioshock reveal about "Would you kindly" I had never felt something so fully blindsiding. One of the things I wish I could experience for the first time again.
Steve Malone to be fair Theresa is doing all this bad stuff for a good cause ie to supercharge her seer powers to find a way to defeat the big bad of game 3 that’ll devour the world while Darth Traya wanted to essentially get rid of magic ie the force so nobody can use it. Lmao
@@thevoidbender I'm sorry I was ambiguous there. I haven't played Fable 3. I was referring to the voice actresses, but if there's a serendipitous connection between the character stories, yay!
Actually, Theresa from Fable is actually Madam Hooch from the Harry Potter Movies. I suppose Neville Longbottom might consider her a bad teacher there too.
I don't care if I'm 4 years late for this video. Al Muslim, Assassin's Creed. Dude sticks his neck out for you to keep you alive after you were a bad assassin. Gives you another chance at redemption, rewards you with weapons and trainings after each target, ONLY TO TURN ON YOU AT THE VERY END, REVEALING THAT HE HAD YOU KILL HIS COMPETITION. then he makes you fight a shade of each of the guys you killed. Absolute mad lad
Honestly what Master Li says in the beginning makes sense, we should strive to learn from our mistakes, but this should never become an excuse to keep making them.
In Jade Empire you can come back from the dead to stop Master Li, replace him as a tyrant or become a sodding statue and let him stay where he is? Tough decision, what to pick? 🤔 Hey, I always thought Link killed that mentor. I still think it looks like Link stabs the guy and disappearing is just him dying, shows what I know 🤣 I just started getting into the Fable games. Am I glad I didn’t have the hero kill his sister in the first game, because there is no importing that choice into Fable 2. Perhaps she’s just a different character that just happens to have the same name and be blind (still playing F2)
Luke's dead? Again? _Sigh..._ Ivan, fire up the cloning machine again ... What do you mean it's 'out of proteins'? ... What? ... Oh, right. Mike. What's the earliest we can get another shipment in?...
Well Wheatley is a moron and does almost get you killed many times, and Theresa is a manipulative power player that doesn't even offer any decent advice Like getting you trapped in the spire for 10 years, even though you could've broke Garth out and prevented all those lives from being sacrificed from the get go Or convincing you to overthrow King Logan the tyrant, but waits until halfway through the game to tell you about the Crawler and tells you to exact same things Logan did to prepare for the Crawler's coming (should've just left Logan on the throne, fuck all those bellyachers in Albion especially that bitch Paige, think Marcy Long from Fallout 4 but more self righteous)
Also, there is Zuriel from Adventure Escape Mysteries' Legend of the Time Stones. Finds a child washed up on his island with amnesia and instead of curing the amnesia or tracking down his parents, he turns the boy into a homicidal, future ruining, dark wizard
Like, half of the mentors that are in the class story lines in Bioware's Star Wars The Old Republic MMO game. First one that comes to mind is Lord Zash.
Similarly, in KoToR II, Kreia was a horrible mentor, though apparently she did such a good job as a cast member that she was asked to play the same role in Fable 2.
When I saw Birth By Sleep on the list I was fully expecting it to be Eraqus. He lied to his students, which made Ventus run away and drove Terra to darkness, he tried to kill Ventus and Terra, and he somehow never thought "Hey, maybe this guy that has been talking about darkness his entire life has fallen to darkness and will corrupt my student"
When someone says it will be character-building to do something like fill out a mortgage application. Do it. It will build their character to have you fill it out wrong and give you a laugh.
Mama Westaway: "Have you seen my son Luke? Tall, fairly good looking young man, very helpful at reaching tall things for shorter people?" Oxtra: "Do you mean Test Subject #714?" Mama Westaway: "What?" Oxtra: "Oh- LUKE! Nope, definitely haven't seen him.Sorry!"
If we're counting the sword guy from Zelda, we should count the Outsider from Dishonored. He just gives you a tattoo and super powers, and plops you back into reality with like no directions of how to use your new powers. Additionally, he already gave your enemies the same tattoo and powers and only does so to be entertained by what you do with your super tattoo. Then he judges you based on your decisions. It's no wonder Corvo either kills people or sends them to a fate worse than death.
BUT ELLEN, Mario Sunshine isn't the best game of all time, don't listen to Luke, KINGDOM'S OF AMALUR is the best game of all time. I said this confidently, CONFIDENTLY! So confidently no one noticed Luke said "the best Mario game" not "the best game of all time" 😋
No, no, no, if you want to do it properly, then it has to be in the style of those Mass Effect guys: 'With total confidence: Kingdoms of Amalur is a good game.'
I'm really glad that Theresa is on this list but we are forgetting the most important part of her tale to The Spire. She used the deaths of the wife and daughter of Bowerstone's ruler, Lucien Fairfax, in an attempt to drive him to build the Spire. She played the LONG game.
Is Luke's clarinet teacher secretly Cersei Lannister? "Sending her regards"? I'm just saying, you should really vet any tutor who says they're from Westeros...
After Skyward Sword, I thought the whole "It's dangerous to go alone, take this." took on a new meaning for me since at this point in the timeline, Fi would have been in the sword long dormant but in there through legend non the less, right?
Here are YOUR PICKS of mentors in games who had nothing good to teach you. Can you think of even more terrible mentors in games? Shout in the comments if so, and enjoy!
In my opinion. Batman from injustice 2 is a bad mentor. He literally "tries" to train Damian not to kill people but what does Damian do five minutes later, hmmmm oh yeah. He kills zaaz right in front of batman and after that,Damian is tooken away by a better trainer and father figure super man. to be trained better
Have we considered that maybe the old man IS the sword? He probably isn't but if he was that would explain things....except why he doesn't ever speak to you again. Either way he's a horrible teacher.
Barlow from Castlevania Order of Ecclesia, your mentor who guides you until he tries to sacrifice you
Madarame from Persona 5, not only does he steal from his students but he also causes some to kill themselves and basically killed his most prized pupils mother.
Outside Xtra SWTOR. All the mentors try to kill you, get possessed and then try to kill you, get killed, fail to realize superiors or underlings are actually traitors or villains or, some combination of those. Pick any class story, the mentor does something wrong.
I trusted Atlas cos he had a gorgeous Irish accent. I didn't mind when he betrayed me. But then he stopped being Irish. Then I was truly betrayed.
"Luck of The Irish", my ass
@@yaboigaming123 Cu Chulainn can sympathise with his D ranked Luck. Poor Best Doggo
@@rose_470 Guy dies in nigh every possible reality
@@d.n5287 Except the cooking one thank Lugh for that one.
Agreed something about an Irish accent is interesting to listen too
I will never forget the part where Master Li revealed he was evil and talked about how much he loved Mario Sunshine.
What
@@ElFrogge 1:00 (that's what they are referencing)
That awkward look you share with your "mentor and best friend since childhood" when together you defeat the "big bad guy" 4 hours into the 12 hour campaign.. o.O?
It just shows you were really, really good at the game! I mean, what else could it be?
I believe the word you're looking for is "uh-oh".
Wow! Luke's clarinet teacher is the worst! You can't kill someone with a woodwind; you damage it irreparably!
Luke had already damaged it irreparably with his playing. It could only be redeemed by his blood. So it's a shame strangulation's bloodless, really.
well in all fairness, I don't think you can choke a guy with a French Horn... you'd need Agent 47 level skills
"Good work 47. Now head towards an exit."
Wait you aren't meant to forge evidence??? *flees*
You aren't ment to be CAUGHT forging evidence. It's like pooping. You're supposed to do it, but not in front of everybody.
Red Lunatic wait, your telling me I don’t need to do that in front of everyone?
@@redlunatic2224 Reality doesn't count; just image.
@@CarbonRollerCaco Sadly, this is true in our media filled world.
@@redlunatic2224 You don't necessarily need media for that to be true; actual thinking is a legit difficulty if not outright impossibility for far too many.
8:38 “Thank you Master Xehonort, you seem like a nice guy.”
*extreme close up of Xehonort’s smug evil grin*
Lol you can't blame him for having a creepy smile
Go to other worlds and beat up enemies called Unversed
You know what they say, "When you play the game of presenter chairs, you play the clarinet well or you get strangled by Mrs Horsely's thugs."
It's a very convoluted game.
You know what I’m busy this game night I’ll not be able to go unfortunately
“Quickly runs away”
"When you tear out a man's reeds you are not proving him a terrible player. You're only telling the world that you fear what he might play."
Tell Jane we lost another get the cloning vats warmed up
Really burning thru those Lukes.
Just tell Evil Universe Luke to lighten up a bit. No one will know.
Shoo
Go back to protecting Ben from poons
Can someone pick up Luke so we can grind him up to make clone chow.
@@slewone4905 Well, that got dark.
8:43 Tbh, NOBODY in Kingdom Hearts can go without mentioning darkness, light or hearts every two seconds
Don't forget FRIENDSHIP!XD
.... drinking game idea?
@@katyhenderson5210 Not if you want to live through the tutorial.
TheHutchy01 Touché
“That’s why we’ll replace the word darkness with BEES and it will make just as much sense!”
Phoenix: "Hey, this is pretty impor-
Von Karma: "OBBJECZION!!"
Ellen really is the consummate professional, isn't she? "Too bad about Luke … but, the show must go on!"
Ellen really is a ray of sunshine, and always brings charm to everyone's lives. And yeah Luke total shame xD
@@chrismilton3240 You poor, naive fool. Ellen has been Ms Horsleys' agent FROM THE VERY BEGINNING!!*!?1*!?one
@@talltroll7092 OBJECTION!!! *gasps all around*
Smirk? Creepy yellow eyes? Darkness obsession? So, Geralt, then?
When did Geralt talk about darkness? He's a monster slaying lothario who runs through tavern wenches like the monsters he hunts (at least when I'm playing as him, it's why I never have the orens for alchemy ingredients and weapons)
@@deathbykonami5487 I mean, I just assumed it was Witcher thing, since he hunts monsters and stuff. Never actually played the games.
The "would you kindly" reveal in Bioshock absolutely blew me away, I got the game on release day and managed to play all the way through, spoiler free.
Genuine jaw hitting floor moment.
@@resident-evil-jerma5389 me too . I was amazed by it tbh
@@colemandustun883 same. i somehow got no spoilers even tho i played the remaster. It's still my favorite game of all time.
I was double amazed since it's basically explaining the game mechanic where you do whatever someone told you via radio
never played the game at the time, I learned about the "would you kindly" twist liek 2 years later which was actually my reason to play the game. often I would play games like that a second time to see little hints the game drops that most people just wont get that early but having played it already i often rush the story. with this game I could look for all the little hints AND still slowly walk through the game and enjoy every corner
@@MightyRathalos90 I love going back after big reveals and looking for foreshadowing. Is it really a rug pull or was it subtly telegraphed?
So, wait, what number Luke are we on now? Jane must have a heck of a supply to keep up with the constant demises of her coworkers.
She's used to it I suspect. Probably has hot spares just ready to go.
Can I buy one?
Mike killed Luke, in an uncharacteristic stealthy manner
I was expecting Mike to dynamite the chair while Luke was sitting on it
@@deathbykonami5487 Plot twist: It was actually Andy in a Mike mask.
@@madalice5134 he stole it from Luke lol
Ellen: to those inside the fandom, are you getting enough fresh air?
Answer: Nope! I step outside, and even my neighbor's flower garden is starting to "look like a good spot to find some ingredients!" It's safer if I just stay inside.
'Dream' says Luke. Ha! Clearly the clones are remembering their previous deaths
I do love how extra all of the prosecutors in Phoenix Wright get
Blaxkquill has to be the most extra
@@polkarrty Pretty sure that honor goes to Ga'ran, shes literally an evil queen...
@@KyletheScott thats a good call actually
if you wanna skip spoilers/skip to a certain section:
1. 0:40 jade empire
2. 3:34 portal 2
3. 6:26 kingdom hearts: birth by sleep
4. 8:56 the legend of zelda
5. 10:41 bioshock
6: 12:53 fable II
7. 15:27 phoenix wright: ace attorney
thank you sir
@@PippaPasses Not all heros wear capes.
Been asking the channel to do this themselves for years. Thank you.
Carefully he's a hero.
@@demonman905 This implies people would want to skip a bit of the video, why would anyone?
I do love Xehanort's being voiced by the late, great, Leonard Nimoy.
Yes. I didn't know for sure but it sure sounded like it. Isn't that something that must be stated factually in these cases due to respect for a cultural icon? So and so... voiced by Leonard Nimoy... etc.
Watching the 1986 Transformers animated movie gets a bit weird after playing BBS, because Nimoy basically does the same voice for Xehanort that he did for Galvatron.
And Rutger Hauer in the 3rd game.
@@alanguillermo3145, Rutger Hauer... another cultural icon. (For me... more so. Gasp!)
@@pygmalion0451 Wouldn't his most known line be from Star Trek?
Ellen explaining Kingdom Hearts minutiae:
Me - OH, that's what I sound like to ... almost everyone around me. **sigh**
Somebody hire VaatiVidya.
Well, I think we've found a contender for the best Oxtra outro ever. Shame that we need a new Luke now, though. Great art comes at a great cost.
"I make Art until somebody dies!" Jack 'Joker' Nicholson, Tim Burton's Batman.
I'm sure they have plenty of spares,
Ellen's pause... then launch into her persona is amazing!
@@TraipsingThroughLife her comic timing is always on point!
I love listening to Ellen talk about Kingdom Hearts, because everything in those games needs a ton of context to even make a bit of sense. And that's why I love them.
The first game doesn't. Assuming you have a passing familiarity with Disney, of course...
@@timothymclean even so you still have to explain the keyblade, light and darkness, and the idea of many worlds. But I do agree it is far less complicated than the later games.
@@kayleyanna3164 you don't even know what your objective is on KH1 other than traveling to find Riku and Kairi. He didn't really go out of his way to find the princesses it was just means to an end for him
@@UnrealAxel27😊
I see von karma being roasted, i click.
> I see Ace Attorney in the thumbnail
> I Click
About to not watch, sees it
HOLD IT!
"Its dangerous to go alone. Take this."
As in "hey, being alone around here is dangerous, so take this weapon to be able to defend yourself".
I'd argue that Eraqus deserves a spot on this list more than Xehanort. Xehanort was far more successful in what he was _trying_ to teach Terra. Eraqus couldn't even pull _that_ off.
Also, he tried to key-shiv Ventus to stop Xehanort from using him instead of _explaining anything._ If Eraqus taught his pupils instead of demonizing Terra, scapegoating Aqua, and ignoring Ven, then Xehanort's plan would never have come together as well as it did.
@@jackfrost9512 Even Aqua's distrust can really be blamed on Eraqus's bad teachings. He effectively tried to pound it into his students heads that darkness is pure evil no matter what, and Aqua was simply following the teachings of the only master she ever knew. There's a reason that, (particularly early in the game), she was incredibly naive despite Eraqus claiming she was ready to be a master. At least with Xehanort's teachings, he did actually help Terra to become stronger and gain a measure of control over the darkness, and didn't say to completely reject the light in its entirety as though it was despicable. It's just that making Terra stronger was a secondary portion of his true goal......
This is why you don't presume children to be full of shit, parents.
Considering Von Karma was Edgeworth mentor and practically like a father to him, it is a miracle that Edgeworth is actually good character with a kind heart... I love when Maya or Phoenix are in trouble how we can see how much Edgeworth cares about them
Uh, I wouldn't say von karma is like a father to him, if you dunno what I'm talking about, maybe play turnabout goodbyes if you haven't already
@@stealthobjection5311 Just because he idolized his actual father, was traumatized by the idea of maybe having killed him, and was inspired to become a lawyer by his real father, doesn't mean Von Karma didn't become an influential father figure to Edgeworth for the latter half of his childhood and adulthood. In fact he spent more time raised by Von Karma than his biological dead dad, and became a prosecutor whereas he originally wanted to be a defense attorney like his father. Also, Franziska refers to him as a brother, since Von Karma literally adopted him and raised him alongside his real daughter. Maybe YOU should think harder and replay the games, if you can't see that a boy who lost his dad when he was 9 years old can't have a secondary father figure.
*pushes Luke out of the chair* "Sooooooo...." had me rolling
"I'm going to attempt a manual override of this wall, could get a bit technical"
One of my favorite lines, along with "Im speaking in an accent that is beyond her range of hearing."
@@Dootdodeet
Portal 2 is full of A+ voice acting.
That's how I get into my house when I lock myself out
@@deathbykonami5487
I keep a lock pick and torsion wrench in my wallet. Seriously not joking. I aced learning that for the eventuality of zombie-apocalypse scenarios. A lot of people don't realize how easy it is to pick 90% of most locks.
Ellen needs a video where she explains Kingdom hearts lore. It could be uploaded at the same time as her tomb raider full complaint.
BrainGhost01 is there not a 10 hour limit on videos on youtube?
@@gruggerduggerhoose don't think there is 10 one
How can you argue with your mentor, he is just "Master Li" at what he does...
Boo! Booo!
Boo.
Thanks for another wonderful video! At 17:52 is that James!? If so, super happy to see him featured in a list video 😊
freaking loved it.
Wheatley begging to be picked up has been my ringtone since the game came out.
I need that ringtone, Link?
I was about to apply for that open intern job with your company, but after seeing the shady dealings and internal politics, I think I will take my chances with guard duty in Kings Landing, at the Red Keep.
Luke talked about Super Mario Sunshine without Andy chiming in? In my head canon Luke snuck that part in while Andy was on his lunch break.
Video posted 19 Minutes
Video where Ellen explained all the Kingdom Hearts lore 219 Minutes.
I hope she's okay locked in that studio.
Wow she is reading the abridged version for the casuals
wait dear lord, 219 minute video?! i can't find this on their channel lmao please help
Please link it please!
@@evecampbell3069 i meant this video is 19 mins if Ellen explained it all it would be 219 mins... sorry about the confusion
@@ryanfrounks That's ok. I wish there was a video like that though.
Music teachers have hit men? Thank goodness I never took up the piano.
I dunno. There are some absolutely heinous things you can to the human body with a pipe organ. Mostly involving pipes. And organs.
Piano man is the name of a Hitman challenge, where you garrote a target.
Just wanted to chime in and say I'm liking all of this Ace Attorney content lately. You rock!
The guy in the picture is Corazon's dad.
If Corazon was anything like Franziska, anyway lol
@@mar_speedman 😀
Why do I get a weird feeling that Jane will end up on this list someday? 🤔
You either die as the hero or live long enough to become the villain.
Jane? Why, she would NEVER do anything evil! We can trust her not to conquer us with orbital space lasers and an army of zombies.
As long as we remain useful, we have nothing to fear
She'll end up as the boss in a Nier: Automata easter egg CEO boss fight.
The old man... IS the sword.
Let's all be grossed out together.
*Skyward Sword flashbacks*
So we indeed didn't go alone?
Ok so I know this isn't particularly a mentor..
But the first boss fight in ff7.
Barret clearly asks you to attack the scorpions tail when it's up.
"Oh ok! Good plan! I will do as you say!"
Oh wait. I'm dead? Well gee thanks barret. Glad to have you along for the ride! (I know this is a translation error) but I can guarantee it got 90% of players on there 1st play through!
Agreed entirely, but that was Cloud being a terrible mentor to Barret! Which makes sense, because (dozens of 20-year-old spoilers RE: Cloud).
Sure you give all those warnings about Master Xehanort. But when he is voiced by Leonard Nimoy how can one not trust his pure logic?
Oh, Jade Empire is on your radar? You should do "X many times the bad guy was British" and lead with Roderick Ponce Von Fontlebottom.
He's really more of an obnoxious troublemaker than "the bad guy".
I'm going to have to insist that you refer to him by his proper title of Sir Roderick Ponce Von Fontlebottom the Magnificent Bastard.
Outside xtra is awesome thanks for making my day better
Mike for utilizing stealth, Andy for sowing chaos, and Jane for showing mercy. Luke for being unimaginative and Ellen for frowning. Next list please!
14:50 "Turns out, Theresa had an ulterior motive..." me: DID THAT JERK TAKE MY DOG?!? no, okay, I'm fine.
Atlas’s betrayal KILLED ME! I got way too invested in the story of bioshock... and then that shit betrayed me! I was rooting for him! And he betrayed me!
Darth Treya is honestly the best and the worst teacher. She both trains us to be the best version of ourselves, all the while setting up the destruction of the Jedi and the Force.
and destroyig the force would be bad why?
@@artturisiikanen3843 considering it's one of the main things helping to maintain life on some planets it would be catastrophic to destroy the force (supposing that it is fully possible)
Master Xehanort from KH: BBS? What about Master Eraqus; he sends Terra on a mission knowing Xehanort could turn him and then tries to kill Ventus.
Xehanort can also be put onto a list of "People You Can Definitely Trust."
I'm taking Luke's advice and hereby confidently asserting that OutsideXtra are the best channel on RUclips
I confidently agree!
Whispers: just don't let OutsideXbox know, you wouldn't like Jane when she's angry.😱
Well you both sound very confident, so I know it must be true
@@maxvel0city906 Good point. I'm hereby confidently asserting it _really super quietly_
Extraordinary! I believe you implicitly!
I'm with Luke. We really should, shine a very shiny shine sprite shaped light on how glorious...and shiny...Mario Sunshine was!
No Igor? from Persona 5 he may not be the main mentor but the ending twist.(Trying not 2 spoil the game.)
He teaches some stuff quite nicely, Morgana did most of the tutorial so..... I'm just saying Igor? isn't as bad as the people in this list.
@@katherina1643 I am talking about Igor's doppelganger the final boss he was there at the beginning of the game.
“There ain’t no atlas kid, names fontain”.
Me-oh, oh no.
Just wanna say, I see that PUP shirt Luke and I approve.
Can't get any more hipster than an obscure Canadian indie alt-punk band.
I cannot impart the whole system shock I experienced at the Atlas Bioshock reveal about "Would you kindly" I had never felt something so fully blindsiding. One of the things I wish I could experience for the first time again.
Theresa from Fable sounds like Darth Treya.
Steve Malone to be fair Theresa is doing all this bad stuff for a good cause ie to supercharge her seer powers to find a way to defeat the big bad of game 3 that’ll devour the world while Darth Traya wanted to essentially get rid of magic ie the force so nobody can use it. Lmao
@@thevoidbender I'm sorry I was ambiguous there. I haven't played Fable 3. I was referring to the voice actresses, but if there's a serendipitous connection between the character stories, yay!
Actually, Theresa from Fable is actually Madam Hooch from the Harry Potter Movies. I suppose Neville Longbottom might consider her a bad teacher there too.
How could you not mention that Xehanort is voiced by Leonard Nimoy... aka Spock!!!
I don't care if I'm 4 years late for this video. Al Muslim, Assassin's Creed. Dude sticks his neck out for you to keep you alive after you were a bad assassin. Gives you another chance at redemption, rewards you with weapons and trainings after each target, ONLY TO TURN ON YOU AT THE VERY END, REVEALING THAT HE HAD YOU KILL HIS COMPETITION. then he makes you fight a shade of each of the guys you killed. Absolute mad lad
Honestly what Master Li says in the beginning makes sense, we should strive to learn from our mistakes, but this should never become an excuse to keep making them.
I was looking for a comment like this
In Jade Empire you can come back from the dead to stop Master Li, replace him as a tyrant or become a sodding statue and let him stay where he is? Tough decision, what to pick? 🤔
Hey, I always thought Link killed that mentor. I still think it looks like Link stabs the guy and disappearing is just him dying, shows what I know 🤣
I just started getting into the Fable games. Am I glad I didn’t have the hero kill his sister in the first game, because there is no importing that choice into Fable 2. Perhaps she’s just a different character that just happens to have the same name and be blind (still playing F2)
..i regret not killing Teresa...
She's not really an antagonist though.
Third Fable she's helpful.
Luke's dead? Again?
_Sigh..._
Ivan, fire up the cloning machine again
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What do you mean it's 'out of proteins'?
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What?
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Oh, right. Mike. What's the earliest we can get another shipment in?...
Ellen, are you just bitter that you didn't think to use Luke's Sunshine-tricks to promote Kingdoms of whatever-it-was?
*Sees Wheatley And Theresa On The List* ...How Dare You Badmouth My Favorite British Ball And Fav Blind Seer!
Well Wheatley is a moron and does almost get you killed many times, and Theresa is a manipulative power player that doesn't even offer any decent advice
Like getting you trapped in the spire for 10 years, even though you could've broke Garth out and prevented all those lives from being sacrificed from the get go
Or convincing you to overthrow King Logan the tyrant, but waits until halfway through the game to tell you about the Crawler and tells you to exact same things Logan did to prepare for the Crawler's coming (should've just left Logan on the throne, fuck all those bellyachers in Albion especially that bitch Paige, think Marcy Long from Fallout 4 but more self righteous)
James I think your cameraman disguise may have been compromised
Also, there is Zuriel from Adventure Escape Mysteries' Legend of the Time Stones. Finds a child washed up on his island with amnesia and instead of curing the amnesia or tracking down his parents, he turns the boy into a homicidal, future ruining, dark wizard
Like, half of the mentors that are in the class story lines in Bioware's Star Wars The Old Republic MMO game. First one that comes to mind is Lord Zash.
Similarly, in KoToR II, Kreia was a horrible mentor, though apparently she did such a good job as a cast member that she was asked to play the same role in Fable 2.
When I saw Birth By Sleep on the list I was fully expecting it to be Eraqus. He lied to his students, which made Ventus run away and drove Terra to darkness, he tried to kill Ventus and Terra, and he somehow never thought "Hey, maybe this guy that has been talking about darkness his entire life has fallen to darkness and will corrupt my student"
Cotton Candy? I know our American brethren ehoy this channel to but how could you be so un- British? I am shook
Appeal to a wider audience = more money?
When someone says it will be character-building to do something like fill out a mortgage application. Do it. It will build their character to have you fill it out wrong and give you a laugh.
How can people say Sunshine's bad it's Soo PRETTY.
Jade empire. Such an amazing game in my opinion. Huge part of my childhood.
The Guild Master in Fable, that was a terrible mentor!
But did you ever stop to consider that maybe your health IS low?
I mean do you even have any potions or food?
@@LoriasGS Or that the Guild has some new quests for you.
Mama Westaway: "Have you seen my son Luke? Tall, fairly good looking young man, very helpful at reaching tall things for shorter people?"
Oxtra: "Do you mean Test Subject #714?"
Mama Westaway: "What?"
Oxtra: "Oh- LUKE! Nope, definitely haven't seen him.Sorry!"
10:10
Link uses Stab on Old Sage.
It is very effective.
Old Sage used Fire Blast!
It's super-effective!
Link *DIED*
Kreia from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2 springs to mind.
@Steve The Turret I was checking for her, but couldn't find the video hah.
Master Xehanort looks like he could use some eye drops.
and painkillers
If we're counting the sword guy from Zelda, we should count the Outsider from Dishonored. He just gives you a tattoo and super powers, and plops you back into reality with like no directions of how to use your new powers. Additionally, he already gave your enemies the same tattoo and powers and only does so to be entertained by what you do with your super tattoo. Then he judges you based on your decisions. It's no wonder Corvo either kills people or sends them to a fate worse than death.
So Mike told you to do all that Ellen? Did he by chance do it all by note?
That Andy...er...Mike sure has some very specific requests lately
Luke is fortunate the ICA had a double booking and had to send Agent 23.5 instead of Agent 47.
Agamemnon2 soooooo. Half as bald and angry then? Im on board
Agent 42 would have used petunias.
I said no to sunshine for life because:
MARIO
ANGRY
SUN
I just realized the plot of Jade Empire is the same as Kung Pow: Enter the Fist. "We trained him wrong on purpose, as a joke!"
How come I see Manfred Von Karma on the thumbnail yet I’m watching Phoenix Wright right now
I was also watching Phoenix Wright, well, I'm watching Kubz Scouts playing it.
TR:Last Revelation quote from Von Croy: Press X to jump!
I've tried it, but I'm still here on the couch.
BUT ELLEN, Mario Sunshine isn't the best game of all time, don't listen to Luke, KINGDOM'S OF AMALUR is the best game of all time.
I said this confidently, CONFIDENTLY!
So confidently no one noticed Luke said "the best Mario game" not "the best game of all time" 😋
No, no, no, if you want to do it properly, then it has to be in the style of those Mass Effect guys:
'With total confidence: Kingdoms of Amalur is a good game.'
I love mario sunshine haha
@@iwasnevergivenaname8251 I've never actually played Mario Sunshine, but it has a loyal following and from what I've seen it looks like a lot of fun.
@@maxvel0city906 you gotta play it lol . I wish i knew what happened to mine because id play the shit out of it
I'm really glad that Theresa is on this list but we are forgetting the most important part of her tale to The Spire. She used the deaths of the wife and daughter of Bowerstone's ruler, Lucien Fairfax, in an attempt to drive him to build the Spire. She played the LONG game.
Ahh yes, Xehanort and his shenanigans
as for your question Ellen, nope, I do not get fresh air,
Anybody else catch that Leonard Nimoy voiced Master Xehanort ? Took me a minute to place it, but that voice is unmistakable !
Plot twist. The Old Man IS the sword !!
I believe Starbomb took that idea and ran with it...
Don't mess with Master Li, he once punched a mountain, in space.
RIP Luke. Mike is the best mentor!
It seems like "Mentors that are actually going to Betray you" has enough examples to warrant it's own list.
Wait, WHAT? ME? AN AMERICAN? EARLY TO AN OUTSIDE XBOX VIDEO?? Black magic.
*magic of colour
@@ProstheticMeat Rainbow magic.
@@coffeepoweredkatie6290 Let's taste the Rainbow Magic (Skittles, anyone?? Anyone have Skittles to share???:P).
The "would you kindly" was SUCH a good twist!!!
I love it!
I saw von Karma, I click.
Wow, that teacher is so good, the clarinet didn't even TOUCH his neck and he died!
His PTSD killed him.
Is Luke's clarinet teacher secretly Cersei Lannister? "Sending her regards"? I'm just saying, you should really vet any tutor who says they're from Westeros...
After Skyward Sword, I thought the whole "It's dangerous to go alone, take this." took on a new meaning for me since at this point in the timeline, Fi would have been in the sword long dormant but in there through legend non the less, right?