7 Heroes Who Grew Emotionally, Well Done Them
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- These classic heroes are veterans of the videogame scene, but are much deeper and more nuanced characters than when we first met them. Here are seven old-school heroes who got an emotional glow-up.
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Games have changed a lot over the years, and for many, so have their much loved protagonists. Check out these heroes whose personalities went from 2D to damn deep.
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Hi
Speaking of which... get some sleep you guys D:
do a villain version
kenny omega, perfect casting.
Hey guys love the show is know they were the baddies but I always thought the villains in the Metal Gear games had some great and deep back stories
I remember when Ellen and Luke were just palette-swaps of Jane and Mike.
It's good to see the developers really fleshing out their design and backstory.
Nah luke was always better than mike, he could jump higher than mike. Wait no that’s Mario and luigi
Ellen’s “Kingdoms of Amalur” arc seemed forced at first but it was really well executed.
Underrated comment!
@@WonderVis97 Yeah, it had a rough start, but really turned a corner and came into it's own on the mid-season finale.
What about Sonic? He went from a silent and speedy hedgehog to a (usually) speedy hedgehog that you wish would go back to being quiet.
That’s a good pointer
Eh, Sonic changes personality from game to game. The Sonic in Sonic Adventure is different than the one in Sonic Unleashed, who is technically the same mellow person (furson?) as in the Storybook series, and they are all a lot different than the kind of jackassy and excessively quippy ones from Sonic Colors and Lost World.
Exactly, Sonic Mania showed how quiet Sonic is the best Sonic. The animations in Sonic CD really showcase Sonic in his best light.
what about shadow
shadow is sick :D
quiet characters are usually the best.
I love how Kratos, a god of immense power, did not once raise his hand to his child. Especially when said child got full of himself and was a snarky little ass. Kratos' actions and words spoke to me on a pretty deep level and I hope on the day that I have children I have a modicum of his restraint, patience, and wisdom
You forgot something from the Luigi Personality timeline!
It goes:
*Nothing-Coward-Coldhearted Sniper!*
You forgot dead
*(Also dead)*
We all knew his final incarnation was coming ever since the Mario Kart death stare.
*shudders*
You forgot a very angry driver
I thought the next stage was to become a Boo, then Boosette.
Okay, now if we don't get a list of best video game jackets I'm going to be seriously dissapointed.
Gemma Hahaj if we do, Leon Kennedy from RE4 has got to be number 1.
Yes Oxtra! C'mon. Do it, do it, do it!
male Shep's N7 leather jacket should be on that list as well :D
I argue Garcia 'Fucking' Hotspur from Shadows of the Damned for a sweet jacket
@@BrawlerClaws67
That's a weird way to spell "Goro Majima."
I think my Fallout 4 character grew quite a bit. She started off as a woman lost in time, a lone survivor desperate to find her son. Then she became a clinical hoarder and kleptomaniac. From there it was quadruple agent in and against every major faction, to murderer of every sentient being in Far Harbor, to bandit overlord of the Commonwealth. Quite the arc.
She was a hero, but she pulled an Anakin Skywalker and lived long enough to see herself become a villain. In other words, she started off good but wasn't killed off soon enough.
You're giving Bethesda way too much credit there.
Who's going to win: a building full of hardened raiders or a pissed off lawyer with a .45? Team Nora all the way baby!
r/justneckbeardthings
You forgot the defining trigger moment when she shot her own son in the face as he casually strolled into the same room as her after he taunted her with a robot version of himself as a child locked in a cage.
Chris Redfield from Resident Evil. He went from seeing 7 squad mates die in the first game and that drawing nary a sniffle to him being so affected by losing men it drove him to drink in RE 6.
What about Nathan Drake? Guy starts off as a stereotypical wise cracking mid-2000's game protagonist and 3 entries later, he's making me tear up to the ending of Uncharted 4 along with the whole crew
Luigi also managed to turn from a likable scardy-cat who conquers his fears to a gritty sniper on a war path. He also really seems to hate kart drivers, giving them a deathly stare whenever he passes them.
Lol
I imagine him doing the "I'm watching you", gesture every second or third time he does that.
I just realised that Alucard is Dracula backwards, and had the exact reaction as Mike.
Mike backward is Ekim. think of it, Ekim.
I would think of Jane's name backwards, but I'm afraid of unwittingly conjuring anything in my living room.
Wait til you find out about the Mirror of Erised
@@rewritable_ chanting enaj in the dark for Halloween.
Same
Nathan Drake. He went from an Indiana Jones / Tomb Raider kind of character. To a feeling, emotional, father. Who made a choice to marry the woman who he fell in love with. Then stick with that woman. Rather than just finding a new romance in every new game. Plus he reconnected with his older brother, and started a business.
Wolfenstein was *a lot* more mature and heartfelt than I expected from a game that also features a villain named "Deathshead" and dual wielding machine guns to shoot robot nazis.
That game should have had a sticker: "Warning - you need to be more emotionally prepared for this than you think".
Spoon Of Doom haha it’s so true.
Wolfenstein is awesome. Have me the feels.
I played Wolfenstein The New Order and I was pleasantly suprised. It was a good game with good story and good action. I enjoyed it much more than I would have thought.
@@LocalHeretic-ck1kd Story was meh and the gameplay wasn't as satisfying as the first one.
New order, not new colossus
Now I'm terrified of the thought of unbearded 10-years-ago Andy, who was presumably also a depthless psychopathic killing machine.
That's why he loves John Marston so much. Andy identifies with his murder arc.
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Andy from 2009. He looked like a dude from Good Charlotte.
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@@joshuahadams I DO love taking photos, thanks Andy!
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WHAT ABOUT EZIO AUDITORE! One of the greatest assassins within the Assassin's creed series. We spent 3 games learning and growing with him
Can we just appreciate how deep Kratos' voice is? It's so deep the Marianas Trench is jealous.
Kratos' voice actor is black, which makes me so happy as it can be hard for many black men to get voice acting roles for non-black characters. He did Kratos perfectly, especially the boom in his voice when he yells "BOY!" half the game. I swear I finally had to just turn to my brother and ask, "Does his son have a name?!" to which my brother had to think about for a moment, lol!
Christopher Judge, aka "Teal'C" from the "Stargate SG-1" TV series
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley lol who cares what colour they are
@@blueninjanoname7338 I do. I care. I love seeing my black people succeeding and getting roles for things that they normally wouldn't. It might be a miniscule thing for you but is huge for us.
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley "my black people" I think you should have another look into that outlook.
Shoutout to doom guy for staying loyal and being an emotionless killing machine...
After saving hyrule of course
what about Doom guy? Starts as a regular monster killer and ends up being the Hero of Hyrule!
Might be the other way around? I doubt space fighting demons would come first then medieval fighting demons
Makes no difference to the Doom Slayer. Rip and Tear, until it is done.
Adie Tri Hanindriyo tingle began as a fairy chaser. ended up as Master Chief
Well BJ is “supposed to be a relative” of Doom guys so maybe that counts.
Started as a Doom Slayer, turned into a badass Goblin Slayer.
Might sound like a demotion, but damn someone need to kill those rapelings.
"Jessica?"
"My girlfriend since childhood."
"Oh right, my own friend too!"
Must be a Facebook relationship.
Legendary Detective Wobbuffet You mean AOL Facebook wasn't there back then😅.
Maybe he has several friends called Jessica and was checking which one he meant?
@@littleshopofeldritchhorror6224 or he's a Viking type "than she is my life long friend as well! We die for her tonight!"
Maybe because he is her BF this guy is now her friend automatically
@@AllenTax MySpace is the 90s version of Facebook, I think
"She has a grenade launcher" "That's right, I'm coming for you bastards"
Ah yes, Lara's emotional growth was very moving
Vengeance does not mean no character progression.
Since they're prequels wouldnt it technically be a regression?
@@KaiTenSatsuma you mean this whole character arc is about the transformation from human being to British? Interesting.
@@lnt305 "Many years and bra sizes later...."
It is a bit weird when the exact same character has boatloads more personality in the prequels than in the games they technically predate.
@@KaiTenSatsuma hahaha, omg I forgot about the bra sizes. Well. Lara was still at her edgiest in her first appearance. (oh no, bad puns are contagious!)
I guess that's why it's a reboot, not a prequel to these games ;-)
Wait, what? The entry is Solid Snake but you talk about *Venom Snake?*
I mean, fair enough, MGSV is an emotional game but that's more the emotional development of Big Boss than anyone else.
You want Solid Snake's emotional development? Look no further than MGS4 where he finds out he'll die of old age at, like, 50 *AND* even if he does live longer he'll infect the world with a mutated Fox Die virus! This creates a bitter, self destructive old man that cares only about his friends and the mission right up until the end. Then, he reconciles with Big Boss and goes into a cozy retirement, hopefully with an army of sled dogs, finally living comfortably!
And then he dies before the box technology has been improved to be waterproof and infrared proof
he was much younger than 50. Not even 40.
You could argue that Link from Legend Of Zelda falls under this category, mainly because of breath of the wild where you can unlock his emotional growth by getting the memories!
His trips to Mars and Hell made him emotional in other ways too
I thought that too first but he if we are honest he is pretty much always a silent hero who just gets the job done. But maybe I'm missing the point and I just don't see it.
@Caitlin RC I totally agree
I feel it less for Link and more for Zelda. Link basically was always good at what he did, even if he didn't talk much. Zelda had her weaknesses shown, accepted, and overcome. Which is far above the "save the princess" trope she was in the beginning.
@@thatblackguy01
To be fair, barring a couple of examples, Link and Zelda are usually not the same people as their namesakes in previous Legend of Zelda titles.
Heroes who got deep ? What about Merilween, and her transformation from a lovely innocent druid to a meatgrinder enthusiast
How about Prudence, who went from Deep Purple to Deep Ones?
What about Riku (Kingdom Hearts)? Started as the cool kid of Destiny Islands who succumbed to darkness out of desperation to save Kairi, and now he's a wisened, rational young man who's achieved inner balance.
Good one! Wish we could say the same for Kairi :/ I mean, half her game time in 3 was talking with Axel and cheering him up and then when things do hit the dirt, she doesn't do much. She has a keyblade, let the girl fight! And maybe win for once...
No mention of Clementine from The Walking Dead (Telltale games)? She had to grow up as a child, suddenly torn from her normal suburban life and thrown into Zombie Apocalypse that her parents would not have let her seen movies of the day Lee found her. And she had to not just grow up in that setting, but also grow up quickly from a little suburban girl to knowing a whole new set of rules to life.
How about agent 47? From unfeeling clone to revenge fueled parental figure.. back to unfeeling clone because thats how we like it thanks.. less of a character arc more like a loop
No, its just two character arcs back to back
Well he resolved his arc and his story didn't end, so he gave it up until such a time when we need him to grow. Which would be never.
Dude, he worked as a groundskeeper for a church in hitman 2 until he was blackmailed into doing assassinations, in which he killed the guys who black mailed him and then began to accept that he couldn't live a peaceful life and returned to an assassins life. He had his arc.
I actually liked absolutions
@@tangerinetech5300 same ;_; lowkey feel like Absolution gets too much hate sometimes.
This video was made just to talk about how great Luigi is, wasn't it?
They didn't mention him turning from a coward into a coldblooded sniper.
or the pure hatred he shows when he drives
Dishonored's Corvo went from silent protagonist to 'chatty aunt Lucy at your birthday party' between parts 1 and 2.
He did love his exposition. "I'm going to find [this doctor], kill [that antagonist], and save [this character]" is a good example from the beginning of the game, and would you know it, it's literally the plot of the game.
Revan. Just a historical figure for the first half of the game, then you find out he's your silent protagonist. Another game of him being a historical figure and THEN he gets an entire expansion in The Old Republic examining his literally broken soul. Like his soul is LITERALLY SPLIT IN TWO. HE HAS TWO SOULS.
Not sure if title is sarcastic, or just British.
Both the same thing to be honest
@@tf2615 true. well done
Both. And Ellen's "Good for them" at 0:31
Also a touch of bitterness
You're saying there's a difference
I’m sorry, but where is Spartan 117? It was a slow burn, but a burn nonetheless that warmed the Master Chief’s heart over the course of the series.
Might be that he had an entire book about how fucked up he was before the first game was out. Idk.
But he and Revan are the ones I wanted to see
Vadan Drumist they broke the story with 4 & 5 :/
StubotticusRex Agreed. Wouldn’t have been so bad if they had ended on 4 though. Appreciated Master Chief’s character at the very least, and is the basis of the recommendation.
Wait until 6 to do the commenter edition with him in it. Unless 343 fuck it up worse than 5. I got better emotions out of a rotten avacado than blue team
@@vadandrumist1670 I think 6 could be amazing though. They should end it on the option to kill Cortana or say fuck it and set off the Halo ring, with both options killing the mean green mc
One of the Final Fantasy protagonists could be on this list; just about all of them have an emotional 180. Cloud goes from being a mercenary who routinely announces that he's "not interested" in what everyone is doing to being . . . interested, in saving the world. Tidus, who starts as a cocky athlete, becomes very humbled at the end. Noctis conquers his disinterest and depression to decide he's ready to become a king.
Summer O'Neal I’m with you, I for one definitely thought of Noctis when I saw the video title
Good, I'm glad somebody did.
Except this list is specifically talking about the changes protagonists over a series undergo from entry to entry, not how they change within a single game.
That's just regular character growth most protagonist go through in their story. Especially troubled ones like Cloud. They would be a worthy addition to the list only if it would have been the case that cloud didn't go through some growth in his original game but later on in one of the spin offs or the remake.
Kratos has always been a deep, emotionally driven character. At the beginning of the first game, he's literally narrating before attempting suicide. I believe that this is during the fight against hades, when he is protecting his family from hordes of demons, and can heal from hugging them, or maybe that heals them. Kratos didn't just become deep, the emotion just took more of the forefront in the storytelling. Don't get me wrong, Gow4 is the best I've played, but to say it's the only one with emotional depth is a disservice to the series.
Absolutely.
As for the demons, they were actually depicted as Kratos himself.
And Kratos had to sacrifice his health to heal his family
I hope someone mentions Tetris here. I mean, going from simple squares and lines all the way to Z-Shapes and T-Shapes... Whew! What a ride!
And as old age set in, it started to feel like time was moving faster and faster
Cmdr Shepard after Mass Effect 1
In fact the characters even poke fun at how wooden Shep was before the Normandy was blown up in Mass Effect 2
Don't forget the Mass Effect DLC which poked fun at him/her over the whole series. "I should go."
8. Your D&D characters. They've gone from sweet wistful beings to regular killing machines
You do know that the occupation of adventurer can basically be described as "murder hobo"? Or "home invasion robbery"? Or even "Hero"!
The bard that starts as loveable scamp and evolves into an unbearable asshole.
The correct term is "murderhobo."
Ah yes, as other replies have stated this is known as the "Murder Hobo" playertype
What's D&D?
Yes Kiefer Sutherlands Snake covering himself in ashes and disinterestedly mumbling about keeping them with him had so much more depth than David Hayters monologue about the importance of what we pass on to the next generation.
SubHumanTorch
Yes, because respecting some dead soldiers is much more important than caring about the next generations, and trying to prevent the same mistakes we have done
Commander Shepard, by the end of mass effect 3 she's just been through everything
Hence why my Shepard retires with Liara post-Destroy.
what?
@@Rainbowhawk1993 I don't know why but I quite like your opinion and name
Idk Shepard was pretty fleshed out in the first game.
Commander Shepard: we'll bang ok?
Reapers attacking the galaxy? Better buy stuff for my fish tank
what about Ezio in AC II??? Ellen, I am not angry I am just disappointed
its progress in the same game.... the point of the list is change in character with different games.
Well he is a completely different character from Altair. Doesn’t fit the criteria of this video.
Hey Ellen's dad
At first I was like "what are you talking about?" but then I had a flashback to the sweet and awesome intro of Reveletions with Ezio saying how he's tired and how the game shows how much he has matured and says how when he was young was so full of anger and wanting revenge. So now I'm with you: yeah Ellen what the heck?
Calm down, there will be commenter edition
Forgive me if my knowledge on MGS is wrong but... isn't Venom Snake just the helicopter pilot brainwashed/tricked into thinking he's Big Boss? So doesn't he lack the connecting element that Solid and Liquid have? (And I think Solidous to some extent). Wouldn't MGS4 be a better entry for showing Solid Snake's development? There's also a simple fact that even if they are all clones they aren't mentally conditioned to be uneffected by their own experiences in life. So there's enough disconnect for Venom to be a very different character from Solid.
Yes that's true , but i would also argue that he actually was quite deep in mgs 1. They should have mentioned metal gear 1 instead.
Actually, Venom Snake wasn't the pilot. He was the Medic.
Solid Snake has no drastic change between games (maybe not as obvious in MGS2 due to the lack of screen time (staring blankly at Raiden)), Naked Snake's in-game chornological changes are somewhat convincing (but out-of-game chornologically he started out as the mentor-figure-turned-evil antagonist, there's that), and Raiden just suddenly decides to be a cyborg.
@@Gamer88334 he was actually both
I would have chosen MGS4 or 3 mainly to redeem David Hayter. The video made it seem as if the Snakes only got good only with Kiefer Sutherland when the previous games were also decent.
ahhhhhh, Ellen's Thumper t-shirt is absolutely adorable!! where do you get all these great shirts, Ellen? I must know!
I like the sushi one! But yeah!
Link!
In the 1st game he's just a bunch of green pixels.
In the 2nd game he kisses the princess at the end.
And in the 3rd game he has an uncle who dies in front of him.
And now we have Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword, and Breath of the Wild! All of which feature much more emotional Links who have complicated relationships with Zelda and other characters like family, mentors, and Tingle.
Doomguy got some emotional growth as well, DOOM had a lot more heart and tears to it than the original. Especially when Doomguy tears out an Imp's heart.
I would just like to say solid snake doesn't wear a cool headband, he wears a bandanna in the same way that "I don't run away, I tactically evade."
There was just a delightful purity about how Ellen said "Wheeeeee!"
Emotional growth is fine, but never lose touch with your inner child, folks. :)
Every clone who survived Star Wars Battlefront 2 (2005).
Anyone else have flashbacks to the Terry Pratchett novel Thud! when they mentioned Alucard is Dracula backwards. ‘It’s one of the lesser-known failings of the vampire. No one knows why. It goes with having big windows and easily torn curtains. A sort of undeath-wish, you might say. However clever they are, they can’t resist thinking that no one will recognize their name if they spell it backwards.’
9:23 I just had the best timed ad ever. As soon as Ellen said "to this", the ad started
Isaac Clark from Dead Space. He did go from silent Engineer trying to stay alive to traumatized survivor trying to protect all of mankind in three games.
Limb-removing, med pack using, necromorph abusing, ellie-loving badass space monster killing veteran. I wish they could make another game
You do MGS1 Solid Snake a huge injustice. Did you just skip all the codex calls?
I can think of three others who, if you look closely, all have had massive character development.
Doomguy, who is just as badass, just with a convoluted backstory you may have missed (just ask Mike).
The Master Chief, who has had some of the most impactful emotional evolution in the Halo series.
Agent 47, who you all know the development of so I'll refrain from summing it up here.
I can't believe you didn't mention Luigi's "secret" diary entries in Paper Mario for N64.
In those entries he describes his loneliness, his jealousy of his brother Mario, his anger of being overlooked, and his determination to set out on his own and become a bigger hero than Mario.
What about Clementine!? Not to forget we, the players, been raising her for years.
Oh my gosh! TRUE!!!!
What about Agent 47 from the new Hitman games? He was an emotionless killing machine in the first game, but I could have sworn I saw his mouth twitch when he took that selfie with Catalina Delgado in the Hitman 2 game play.
BJ wanting to see his kid / dying from his body being so damaged from Death's Head being a sore loser and frag grenading both of them is so sad...
It hurt me especially bad seeing him crying and saying he wanted to see his child and see them grow up because I started thinking about how they told me my Granny reacted to the news that my parents were gonna have a child. She had never been upset about having cancer before that. She was so elated... then about six months later they told her there was nothing more they could do... she just had however long she could manage and they would just give her painkillers that would sedate her enough to live with the pain from " female cancer ". She never once complained for her own sake... but three months later on April 1st... I was born. She was there. She finally got to hold me after I got brought home and while she was holding me she broke down crying and just get kept whispering; " I'm so sorry I won't be here to see you grow up, baby boy. I promise I'll watch you. I promise I'll see everything. I'll be here, even if you don't know it. " - She actually stayed alive long enough to see my first steps... my first words... I wish she could've seen more. I do... so now any time something like what was used in Wolfenstein is used as plot, or motivation... or tragedy... It breaks me. To be loved so much by someone when I had just come into the world... and that's the issue BJ faces... he wants his child to know he loves them. He doesn't want that love to go unnoticed, or for that child to think they were unloved, or feel a void in their life because they never got it... It hurts. I was so lucky to not only have parents that actually cared, but two pairs of loving grandparents - sadly the last of my grandparent is... on his way out due to Alzheimer's and I just spend as much time as I can talking with him... hearing his stories he can still recall... and he'll tell me the same story over and over and I just smile and pretend it's the first time he told me.
Value what time you have with folks, people. That game had a ton of good morals in it and that's one of them. You never know when life is going to be changed for you in such drastic ways you may not have a future, or may not be able to function in such a way that you can live the way you want any longer... it's scary... so surround yourself with the people you love and that love you. Friends, family, pets. Things you care for. Those matter more than pushing everyone away for big money... if my grandpa could make millions while being a preacher ( He didn't make the millions from preaching, he invested. ) - then the common person can do some very basic investments and have a nice safety net... and be able to focus on family over funding... you'll have that green piece of paper for however long you keep it, or that bank account number. Your family, especially the elder members grow closer to no longer being with you every day. Every hour. It's a scary thought, but reality. Spend time with one another occasionally.
"More angular than a stealth aircraft." I assume you're referring to the Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk, which reduces its radar cross-section by breaking up its reflection via extreme angles, rather than the Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit, which blurs and reduces its radar cross-section with radar-absorptive materials and continuous curvature.
There might be some arguments here, but Agent 47 from the Hitman series, he started out his life as a blocky murder machine with no emotion, his entire purpose was to kill and look good doing it. Then he kills his father, runs away to Italy, finds religion, saves a priest, shows immense emotion in guilt, regret and anger in the following titles (Blood Money, Absolution), puts the safety of Victoria before his own, keeps the promise he made to his only friend Diana, realizes Diana is actually his only friend. And now in the years that follow he seems to be comfortable with who he is at long last, accepting that his job is what he's good at, and not running away to italy every five seconds and quitting the ICA.
Commander Shepard.
There's a reason why I love Mass Effect 3 the most and that's because Shepard is an actual human being in that game unlike the previous 2. Earth, the Reapers, Thane, Mordin, Legion, your crew, its all so emotional and its the reason why in my post-destroy headcanon, Shepard retires with Liara and founds a non-profit organization to end galactic poverty.
Funded through (cough) shadowy means?
16:39 they also do an amazing job exploring and explaining the relationship between Alucard and Dracula in the Netflix series
ALSO ACTUALLY, a suggestion for other characters that fit this bill: cullen from dragon age! couldn't stand him in the first game, but i feel like across dragon age ii and certainly inquisition, he grew into a more rounded character and learned from past mistakes and prejudices. he could have been a good candidate for a mage fearing, mage hating templar after the events of the broken circle quest, but i really enjoyed that he was written to grow and better himself.
Leliana as well, to an extent, though I'd agree with you that Cullen is a better example--possibly because we see more of him in DA2.
Actually, he should've been a mage fearing templar in Inquisition. First, the circle he's at gets attacked by demons because Uldred wanted power. Then Anders blows up the chantry under his watch. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Inquisition doesn't explain his change of heart. By all accounts, he should be even more hateful and fearful of mages in Inquisition, but he was retconned. The closest we get to mage phobia is his preference of templars over mages.
I'm not saying his character in Inquisition was bad, just that it didn't fit Cullen's development
Spencer Hepp ooh yes, good point! there is definitely a difference between origins and inquisition for leliana
Cpt Seagrave ehhh i disagree. considering that cullen can also side with hawke against meredith in da2, i think that he sees how messed up and corruptible both sides can be, and even if it's speculative of me, i think that can be inferred as something that makes cullen change his thinking, especially if you're, say, playing a mage hawke as well. in any case, it's not like he becomes straight up mage loving (possible romances aside), he remains super wary in inquisition and constantly wants the inquisitor to go for templar choices etc, but admits that he needs to be better than he was! and he does talk about his thoughts and feelings on meredith in inquisition.
i'll admit, his stance in inquisition only makes sense if in origins you don't side with him about what should be done about the tower, so it is kind of awkward and retcon-y if you're like "yeah kill the mages". but i guess based on the way i've always played? it works, for me at least.
The main character of the Saints Row series goes from lackey... to psychopath... to hilarious psychopath... to kinda heroic?
Those wobble physics *sniff*
He also becomes president for a bit
Then visits hell and tries to conquer the universe
No Jak from Jak and Daxter? This list was made for him
I agree completely
Pretty sure the only thing that changed was his willingness/ability to talk.
I mean, he also started using guns and stealing cars.
He went from a completely mute boy scout to a vengeful, easily pissed off badass.
Blasko's transformation was so well done and genuinely moving in the New Order. The new colossus on the other hand seems to have fumbled and dropped everything on the floor.
Yeah. No.
Yeah, yeah...
That Wolfenstein clip made me tear up. BJ telling his mum that he doesn't want to fight anymore and how he misses her was my breaking point when I played it. And to think that it all began with a muscle man with expressive eyebrows. BJ Blascowicz will forever be the guy who fights the good fight.
So Cody is 51 years old and still look as buff as hell? Must be all that eating chicken off the floor.
2:07 The director said "give Luke an apple, make him look even more like an a**hole"
Wait wh-? JEREMY!
I think it was because he said to promote employee loyalty with a bowl of complementary fruit instead of family killing
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Saw him mentioned in another comment, but I'd like to second Riku, from Kingdom Hearts. By the time you get to Dream Drop Distance, he's grown so much as a character, and fits well alongside Sora in a true protagonist role. I'm so proud of this boy, and I'm so excited to see where KH3 takes his development.
Link went from a hero clad in green armor killing monsters and powerful wizards, to a guy clad in green armor killing demons fighting in hell.
I feel Doomguy from DOOM 2016 could qualify for this list. Yes, his main emotion is angry hatred of demons, but also an outrage at the deaths of innocents and an unwillingness to sacrifice VEGA when told to, all this WITHOUT SPEAKING ONCE.
A literal man of action
Didn't he also go down to hell because of his rabbit ?
My day just got considerably better, thanks oxtra
I read dad and wondered if your father had a rare condition that could only be treated with ox videos 🤔
I wanna say the Playa/Boss/President from the Saints Row games.
They go from mostly voiceless rookie to being the damn President over the course of 4 games!
It's October. Where is "7 Creepiest Pokemon Backstories That Will Fuel Your Nightmares Forever - Volume 3"
"What the hell kind of name is Soap eh? How'd a muppet like you pass selection?"
5 years later:
"OH NO, NO, NO, NO! SOAP!!! NO, NO! SOAP!!!"
...
"I'm sorry..."
Get of me
Im sorry
On your feet soldier, we are leaving.
For Soap.
I'm not sure that beard growth and emotional growth are interlinked at all. I think we may just have been Ellened
And the winner is - BJ. Like, there are literal tearjerker moments in the latest two games. It's kinda astounding.
Luigi's fear of ghosts was revealed before Luigi's Mansion. It's brought up in Paper Mario, if you go into his secret basement room and read his diary. As the game progresses he makes entries regarding being jealous that Mario gets to do all this awesome stuff while he's stuck at home. At one point he writes about how he is certain there is a ghost behind him, so he's not going to turn around but instead walk backwards to reach the exit and then go hide in bed. The diary also hints at him getting his own game, which later happens in the form of Luigi's Mansion.
What about Doomguy? He went from being zero-personality space marine in Doom to fleshed-out hero-on-a-quest-to-find-himself in Breath of the Wild.
DrakeAurum absolutely rolling on the floor 😂😂
Wait, so in the street fighter universe you can go to prison several times and then become a knife wielding mayor??? ......nice!
To be honest its Metro City. If it was a respectable place they might not accept a violent felon sent to prison for fighting gang members who ran for mayor on a platform of ending street crime, personally.
Their previous mayor was Haggar, so... I think it's just kind of their type.
Isaac Clarke may be deaerving of a nod. He goes from a voiceless protagonist whose greatest self-expression is a facepalm into a person with understandable character flaws and motivations with his personality being heavily defined by the traumas that we've experienced with him.
Raiden from MGS, he was like that newbie who always dies at beggining but then in MGR he became super badass.
What about Master Chief from Halo?? He started out with few words and a perfect soldier always doing what he's told then he goes rogue trying to save Cortana. Even when he was lost in space for years the moment he finds the UNSC he goes back to rank and file UNTIL Cortana starts to break down. At least give him that.
Hey, In Mgs5 they didnt “change” David Hayter for the Big Leagues Guy, the backstory is. Solid Snake = David is NOT the same Snake Clone. Therefor Venom Snake & Solid Snake are NOT. In fact, Venom isnt a clone, he Is altered through Plastic Surgery. So he, is a soldier from Big Boss’s Army, who after the explosion in the helicopter The Actual Snake, “Solid” escapes wich paves way for the events in Mgs4.
Not criticizing you guys just pointing that out, much Love.
Naked Snake (Big Boss) is the 'actual' Snake, and even he was voiced by Kiefer in MGSV, despite being Hayter in MGS3.
@@lowhp6068 nah there is four snakes. He was Big Boss by the end. Snake is only one to go by that name permanently. Not the describing adjective.
Your previous comment stated "The Actual Snake, "Solid" escapes wich paves..." but Solid was not in the chopper crash. During the events of MGSV, Solid Snake would have been a child around the same age as Liquid (Eli). And what I was getting at is that Naked Snake (Big Boss) is the original Snake that Liquid, Solid, and Solidus were cloned from. As for the Voice actor being changed; that was NOT about Venom being somebody else entirely as even the Medic on the chopper, who became Venom, had a different voice initially. Both the Medic and Big Boss were voiced by Kiefer, but the medic's was pitch-shifted down, so it's practically retconned that Kiefer is Snake's canon voice.
Well, Ellen does admit that she has zero idea what’s going on with the Snakes anymore... not like Kojima makes it easy on us.
(You are totally right, though)
What about Maxine Caulfield? She starts out by being freaked out by the idea of a single lighthouse being destroyed, and by the end of the game she's achieved the maturity and clarity of vision to sacrifice the whole scrapball town to save Chloe.
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I laughed so loud i made my cat jump. Good timing
OK, the Snakes:
Big Boss: the progenitor of the line, known as Naked Snake during MGS3, and just Snake in Peacewalker and MGSV's prelude, Ground Zeroes. Survives multiple faked deaths up until the finale of MGS4, where he *heroically* kills the founder of the Patriots, Zero by turning off the old man's respirator. (Seriously, at that point I'm pretty sure that wasn't necessary...he didn't even respond to Big Boss's half hour monologue that attempts to moralize it. There's British manners, sure, but when a person goes on for half an hour about why it's OK to kill you, the most polite person in the world is going to say something if they're aware of what's going on.)
Venom Snake: Big Boss's helicopter pilot as of Ground Zeroes. Hypnotically implanted with Big Boss's identity and memories during his and Big Boss's recovery from the helicopter crash at the conclusion of that game. Not actually related to Big Boss in any way, just a pawn being used to attract attention from Cypher (AKA Zero or The Patriots) while Big Boss is being covert elsewhere. Died at the conclusion of Metal Gear.
Solidus Snake: Direct clone of Big Boss. Early career is largely off-screen, but is eventually elected as POTUS using the name George Sears and is in power during MGS1. Resigns during controversy resulting from that game, and goes on to stage an insurrection against the Patriots (as an unwitting pawn of that very same organization) in MGS2. Dies and is preserved as a "biomort" - life support sustaining his cells despite being utterly brain dead until MGS4. Remains finally destroyed in Act 3 of MGS4.
Liquid Snake: Clone of Big Boss genetically manipulated to have the genes considered to be preferred. Bears the ultimate expression of Big Boss's genetic legacy, making him a remarkably durable warrior even as a child. Survives several defeats from Solid Snake that should have been lethal, and eventually killed by a genetically targeted virus delivered by Solid Snake. Arm transplanted onto Revolver Ocelot.
Solid Snake: Kills Venom Snake in Metal Gear 1 (believing him to be Big Boss). Attempts to kill Big Boss in Metal Gear 2 (believing himself to be successful this time around). Kills Liquid Snake in MGS1. Largely responsible for the success of Raiden in killing Solidus Snake in MGS2. Is renamed Old Snake in MGS4, where he kills Revolver Ocelot.
Revolver Ocelot (Liquid Snake Reborn): Long term ally of Big Boss after their initial encounter in MGS3, and the man responsible for Venom Snake's hypnotic conditioning. Launches a magnificently complex plan to hypnotically condition himself to pose as Liquid Snake due to supernatural possession through the transplanted arm. Manages to sell this insane bullshit even to the AI supercomputers running the Patriots and manages to arrange things such that the Patriots are destroyed as an effective force before being killed by Solid Snake.
All very simple.
Metal Gear series plotline in a shellnut.
Wtf is that arm side story
That's very helpful, thanks. I haven't fully completed any of the games personally (sorry), so is Solid Snake the only Snake you control during them all?
Master Cheif.
Halo 4 has the best stand alone story of the series.
"Our duty, as soldiers, is to protect humanity. No matter the cost."
"You say that like Soldiers and Humanity are two different things. Soldiers aren't machines, we're just people."
"She said that to me once. About being a machine."
Don't forget how Luigi blossomed from coward to sniper expert! XD
One of the biggest character developments in video games has got to be turok..he went from badass reluctant hero to someone trying to discover his past
No John Marston from Red Dead Redemption? I am truly disappointed.
I think they need to wait for the sequel on that one
Pegasuses???
Or is it Pegasusii 🤔
Pegasi
Or Pegapeople (Get the reference pls)
Neither, because Pegasus was an individual's name, not a species... if we wanted to go full pedant, that is.
Glad I'm not the only one who caught that.
I totally get how to miss it, but the grammar nazi in me is dying inside.
.... I know you from NAR.
Also, thanks for taking the words out of my mouth. Or my hands. Whatever.
I swear the only reason I keep coming back to these videos is Ellen. Never stop being you.
Commander Shepard underwent a pretty noticeable addition of depth throughout the Mass Effect trilogy. Even renegades have nightmares about people they couldn't save, and while punching Kalisa Bint-sinan Al-Jilani in the face, and banging alien babes does help keep up the street cred, it Shepard still experiences deep emotional complications along the way, ending with saying goodbye to their oldest friend and Mentor (Anderson) before making the ultimate sacrifice(maybe).
Booker Dewitt? I mean not for long but he definitely showed some emotions before...well.
Bloohydra i think the criteria was game to game.. not just in one game..
Still character development, also look at that box art. Incredible.
Bloohydra notice that all their examples are from game to game.. if they make a list for character development in a single game, go nuts complaining to them if booker’s not there.. but there are tons of single game character developments that are better than what booker did though..
I'm not complaining? It's just a character I like who developed lmao, I don't really care that he's not going in the list I just wanted to make a Booker is dead joke lol
I think this is about characters maturing across multiple games, not just one game
Lara Croft, BJ Blazkowicz, Luigi, Kratos, Cody, Big Boss/Snake, and Alucard all appeared in multiple games, and all of them started out as one-dimensional characters with little personality to speak of. They each grew in their own ways to become more likable or relatable characters (except for Lara, who's still got work in my opinion)
Does Isabela from Dragon Age count? I know it's only between 2 games but it was a pretty drastic change XD
She was my Romantic interest for my Warrior Hawke, but I did a Rogue Hawke and chose Merril instead
Alucard is Dracula backwards. My mind is completely blown! How did I not figure this out earlier!?!?!?
Snake was so much more than just a headband...he was a box disguise too!
Well Lara made a great comeback but her last entry also seems like a setback. Or maybe that's just me.
Seems to me she went from "scared of hurting anything" to serial killer.
I found her really annoying in the last couple of games, she’s incapable and kind of whiny instead of the funny and confident main character I know
Incapable? There are a lot of things you might call the new Lara, based on personal taste for character growth that list could vary. But without doubt the one thing you factually could not call her is incapable. Thats just you bringing your own garbage to the table and projecting it onto a fictional character.
Robert Goble I got news for you pal, she's a videogame avatar... it ain't her that's incapable, that would just be you being shit at the game.
Ezio Auditore? I feel like he would have been a obvious choice in this list.
I think this is about characters maturing across multiple games, not just one game
Lara Croft, BJ Blazkowicz, Luigi, Kratos, Cody, Big Boss/Snake/Whatever, and Alucard all appeared in multiple games, and all of them started out as one-dimensional characters with little personality to speak of
While I agree that Kratos got alot mor depth and more character developement in the new God of War (and I loved it, I think it is one of the best games I've ever played), he was far from a lifeless husk that murdered people in the first games.
He had a background, it was explored in those games, and he had a clear motivation - and I think as a player you understood why he did what he did. Sure, the emotional range was far less (at the same time, the scene with his daughter in Elysium...), but still... I thought he had alot going for him if you look what kind of game it was. On my first playthrough I was actually surprised how much you learn about him, his background.
and how big of boi shouting puss he became
20:53 the sheer look of "Are you serious right now" on the mummy's no face is just hilarious