What If Kyler Was In The School Fight? (Cobra Kai)
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- During this "what if" we're going to change the events of Cobra Kai and The Karate Kid, to: What if Kyler was in the school fight? Thank you for watching the video and I hope you enjoyed it! Make sure to like and subscribe! Also comment what you think would have happened if Kyler was in the school fight during Cobra Kai season 2. Thank you to all that have been watching the videos and giving out ideas.
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A lot of people forget that Kyler and his friends were somewhere in the crowd watching the school fight since they were students at west valley high
I always thought they were off behind the gym, smoking a joint or having a beer.
@@TheJohnnyCottsDo you think Kyler will turn good in season 6
@@nealsmall9316 We'll soon find out. We do see him with the nerd trio in the college scenes, so something had to happen. Maybe Hawk's "Kyler is too stupid to ever learn" speech got to him.
@@nealsmall9316 As it turned out, Kyler learned his lesson and was happy to see the nerd trio. He got them into the frat party, as he was a pledge there. Miguel overheard that the brothers had NO intention of letting Kyler become a member, which led to the fight.
The funny part was the stuff about how Brucks was going to MIT. It turned out he was going to a trade school with those initials.
@nealsmall9316 wth you predicted it
Bro I swear this guy goes in every single detail there is to offer this is actually really good
too bad his voice is so monotone 😭
Honestly, I thought they would go after "Rea" and try to attack him, but Robby wouldn't feel comfortable and would try to push them away, but Miguel would take advantage of that, and it would end up repeating the "What if Miguel kicked Robby off the Balcony?"
Another option that I came to think of is that they would end up attacking Demetri, and therefore, Hawk would end up redeeming himself much earlier in this timeline.
But seeing Hawk destroying Kyler makes me feel good, as I feel like the fight they had in season 4 didn't do Hawk justice.
Same here. I had long expected Kyler to become a common enemy to the two dojos.
I Didn’t Even Know He Wasn’t In The School Fight
How did you not?!
He wasn't in S2 at all. S2 was all about the battle lines being drawn between Cobra Kai and Miyagi-Do, and Kyler was persona non grata to both Johnny and Daniel.
Johnny I don’t know what grata means but you got a point. Daniel wouldn’t want to have a student who spread rumors about Sam in Miyagi-Do. And Johnny wouldn’t want a bully that beat up a defenseless kid, called him a loser, and tried to choke him in Cobra Kai. Kreese wouldn’t care if he knew that Kylie was a bully. He only wanted Kylie for his dojo because he was a natural athlete. Though I think Kylie will be redeemed in season 6.
@TreShawnBelfield "Persona non grata" basically means "an unacceptable or unwelcome person".
Where was Kylie actually
Why would Robby go back to Miyagi-Do? What changed in that regard?
Hawk goes to juvie as well, Hawk wins over and befriends Shawn, they pick on Robby, Kreese never visits Robby to plant the "Strike first" seed, Hawk never redeems and goes back to Cobra Kai once he's out. My guess is Robby rejoins Miyagi-Do to get revenge on Hawk, but doesn't tell Daniel that's why.
That said, if Boxiest ever decides to do a part 2 of this, I'd like to see how S4 goes with Kenny, as Shawn will send him to Cobra Kai to see Hawk instead of Robby. What kind of mentor would Hawk be to him?
What if All the cobra Kai students walked out when Hawk beat up Brucks? What if Kreese redeemed himself after he was kicked out of cobra Kai? What if Johnny was a mma champion?
Sound the trumpets 🎺!! He finally did it!
I also see he went with the "Kyler AND his friends" approach, rather than just Kyler.
Over the years people have asked for this, I envisioned Kyler and his friends becoming a common enemy to Cobra Kai and Miyagi-Do, inadvertently bringing the two dojos together against them. It wasn't until a few days ago I remembered Kyler only gets into fights he thinks he has a good chance of winning, so he and his friends going after other students who aren't in either dojo makes sense.
The only problem I have with this is the idea that Hawk could have taken Kyler, Brucks, and the other two by himself. Hawk in S2 was a notorious hothead who sorely lacked defense. IMO, a more likely scenario would be him beating Brucks and the two others, but getting blindsided by Kyler.
Idk why but thinking about Kyler running around taking out random students is funny af
What if Miguel was saved by mike burners p2 and what if Miguel was trained by Chozen instead of Johnny
What if Johnny and Ali got back together in season 3?
What If Miguel Never Got Drunk? (Season 1)
What if Bobby trained Miguel part 2?
If he was in the school fight he would’ve definitely went after Miguel , Hawk And Demetri
I used to think Kyler would have gone after Miguel, to try and get revenge for the cafeteria fight. He also might have gone after Demitri as well, still believing he would be an easy mark.
However, he wouldn't have gone after Hawk, as he didn't realize Hawk and Eli Moskowitz were the same person yet.
What if johnny, Bobby, Dutch, Jimmy, Tommy saved Miguel in cobra kai season 1 or what if 1984 cobra kai was in the school fight
He would recognize hawk because of his lip
When Kyler and Brucks showed up at Cobra Kai in S3, Kyler didn't recognize Hawk as Eli Moskowitz at first. Once he did, he said he thought he'd moved away. So Kyler not recognizing him here is understandable.
@@TheJohnnyCotts hawk was probably also bullied at his elementary school and middle school
@@zombieman4782 He was. In the flashback with Eli and his mom in S2, he lamented, "I'm never going to have a girlfriend. I'm never going to have any friends besides Demitri. I'm always going to be the kid with the scarred lip."
Yes!!!
In the gta verse. Kyler would be in the crowd of the first day school fight. However. It’s Hawk that wants blood against Kyler. Because he caused those problems for him and his friends. Called him Lip. He’s the reason, the guys are in Cobra Kai, when they didn’t wanted to be in karate. Miguel’s mental conflict expands from there. Miguel would be angry when Cross was falling from the balcony and paralyzed. Angry like hawk. Hawk would be in juvie. However Hawk would be lucky after fighting Shawn. He joins his gang. Also because he’s friends with Kenny. His brother who joined Cobra Kai, after he see the video of Cross kicking Kyler’s ass at lunchtime. Hawk would behave and leave juvie early. But return to Cobra Kai. However, Kreese had to ban Hawk from Cobra Kai. However, Terry Silver joins and decides to teach Hawk, deception, his style of karate. Miguel, worried that juvie made Hawk worse, however beats down on Brucks. Just to prove a point on Kyler to not call him spic again.
Hawk in juvenile detention?
Wait. What happens to Kylie. Oh wait, I already know.
This what if assures you that Kyler wouldn't join the Cobra Kai dojo in Season 3.
He probably watched it.
@@HR2007-o3f wdym
His actor didn’t have enough of a potential role. He wasn’t featured in that season. However, in the show’s continuity, Kyler probably witnessed the fight off-screen.
The fight.
What if Robby got Sam pregnant
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Kylie would be afraid of Miguel.
Exactly why Kyler and company went after the other kids. He only gets into fights he's reasonably sure he can win.
Personally, I thought Kyler would try to help Robby against Miguel, but Robby would be too honorable to accept his "help".
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Given Tory's life, I think she'd initially keep her head down at school and not get involved, plus she and Aisha wouldn't have known each other until both became students at Cobra Kai, with Tory joining after the cafeteria fight. But given what an alpha bitch Yasmine was in S1, she'd eventually set her sights on "the tomboy with the thrift store wardrobe", and Tory would make VERY short work of her.
Side note: I checked "What if Tory was in S1?" and "What if Tory was the first Cobra Kai student?" to see if he'd already done it. He hadn't.
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Who's Kylie
@@alanplayz6706Kyler
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Brucks joins Cobra Kai.
Meanwhile, losing to one of his bullies would shatter Hawk, so he leaves Cobra Kai sooner. Whether he goes to Miyagi-Do or Eagle Fang, I can't say.
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Daniel would still go to Okinawa and the events of KK2 would carry on, only that in this timeline, Silver Wouldn't want revenge on Daniel.
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Day 5 of asking what if Cheng kicked Dre off the balcony
Honestly, I think that making "What if" about Karate Kid from 2010 does not have much purpose, because it does not have complementary material that expands its story, such as sequels, series, comics or guides, as if the Karate Kid universe had it. original.
In any case, I would like to see Boxiest make "What if Karate Kid 2010 had a sequel"?
@@loquenderoloquillodedragonball but Boxiest did make a what if for KK 2010 a few times
Wait. Anyone they see?
Ever since watching S2E10 for the first, I had this question: Where was Kyler during the school fight?
My prediction was that Kyler was merely standing with the crowds witnessing the fight. He could also have stayed inside his classroom while all of his classmates walked out to witness the fight (which explains why Kyler is never shown at all during the fight scene).
If Kyler participated in the actual school fight instead of spectating, Kyler will side with Robby and Miyagi-Do against Cobra Kai in order to get revenge on Miguel. Kyler will feel that Miguel is the bigger enemy than Samantha. Kyler’s alliance with Miyagi-Do begins to sour upon learning that Samantha (his ex-girlfriend and harassment survivor) is a Miyagi-Do student. Kyler’s commitment to the side of Miyagi-Do could also be deepened once Kyler recognizes Hawk being in Cobra Kai (the opposite side), another boy he bullied before. Kyler’s arc will follow one of two scenarios:
In scenario one,Kyler will fight 1v1 against Hawk. Although Kyler knows only the most basicforms of physical attacks such as punching and kicking, he still lacked formal training in Karate or any form of martial arts. Hawk wins because of this lack of training, and Hawk is placed on probation for severely injuring Kyler. Miguel’s, Robby’s, Samantha’s and Tory’s fates in the fight remain the same. The rest of the seasons remain roughly the same because Kyler eventually joined Cobra Kai in S3 in our timeline. The difference is that Kyler will feel the needs to learn Karate upon losing the school fight, and will join Cobra Kai much sooner, immediately after the school fight. He joins so he can constantly avenge Miguel and Samantha.
In scenario 2, Kyler will focus on Miguel instead of Hawk. if Samantha sees Kyler beating Miguel, Samantha will be heartbroken. She will defend Miguel by fighting Kyler in a 1v1 “battle of the exes”. Robby will feel betrayed. Once Miguel get back up after being knocked out, Kyler will be surrounded on two sides by Miguel and Samantha. Kyler now needs to fight a two-front fight. Tory and Robby rush to the scene to chase down Samantha and Miguel respectively, only to witness a their two targets uniting against a tall unfamiliar schoolmate. Despite not knowing each other yet, Tory has no choice but to ally with a this stranger (Kyler) against Samantha. Angered and heartbroken at seeing his ex-girlfriend (Samantha) whom he just team up being beaten by his then-girlfriend (Tory), Miguel applies the “no mercy” philosophy against Tory. In the instant, Miguel breaks up with and betrays Tory, and unleashed his full commitment to Samantha. Robby reacts angrily, over how Miguel is “stealing” his girlfriend (Samantha). The sides have now switched and it a 2v2 fight of Miguel and Samantha vs Robby and Tory. The new fight occurs on the side of the lying and defeated Kyler. Tory will still use her spiked bracelet to impale Samantha’s arm, and Samantha will still “win” her fight by kicking Tory down the balcony. Motivated by her newly-reignited love for Miguel, Samantha will rush upstairs to save Miguel from Robby. Miguel is never kicked down the balcony and is never paralyzed. Kyler wakes up, and runs to the Miguel and Samantha vs Robby fight scene. The fight ends in a stalemate, with the police arriving. Kyler, Miguel, Robby, and Samantha are all expected from West Valley High, while Tory is also still put on probation. The episode end in growing mistrust within the Dojos amongst students. Kreese stills retakes Cobra Kai because he still feels that Johnny failed to be present helping his students at the school fight.
Season 3 in my scenario 2 is characterized by Miguel joining Miyagi-Do because of both his love for Samantha and his father-figure’s (Johnny’s) new hatred of Kreese. Johnny develops depression and a recovery arc over both losing his dojo, and later losing is first and last student (Miguel) to his high-school rival (Daniel). Daniel also undergoes an arc of initial rejection of Miguel due to the latter having been in Cobra Kai, but eventually accepts Miguel into Miyagi-Do. Tory brings Robby into Cobra Kai upon learning the Miguel left once Kreese took over the dojo. Just as in our timeline, Tory and Cobra Kai continue to prey on Miyagi-Do. Kyler feels the need to earn karate, so joins. Cobra Kai immediately after the school fight. With Eagle-Fang never existing and with Miguel never needing to recover, Miguel and Miyagi-Do unite and recognize Cobra Kai as their biggest threat much earlier. The house fight happens earlier, and the Johnny vs Kreese fight in the S3 finale happens earlier too. Daniel still saves Johnny’s life from Kreese. Johnny accepts an offer to become a co-sensei of Miyagi-Do. Kreese stills brings back Silver. Because they are one dojo and not two separate dojos, there is no breakup of Miyagi-Do and “Eagle Fang” midway in S4. Because Eagle Fang never exists and because Miguel does not get severely hurt from falling on his back (and can still fight, Miguel wins the boys All-Valley for Miyagi-Do against Robby., Silver will still bribe the referee so Tory still wins the girls All-Valley. The overall All-Valley however, goes to Miyagi-Do, due to never splitting and having twice as many students. S5 remains roughly the same because Kreese is still arrested (making Silver the sole sensei of Cobra Kai) and Tory still sees the referee being bribed.
The real reason why Kyler was not present during the school fight (and does not appear in Season 2 at all) was because Joe Seo, Kyler’s actor, was busy with a different project and was unavailable to reprise his role during the filming of Season 2.
Scenario 2 would be the more likely one to happen, except without the weight of the school fight on him (Miguel in the hospital, Robby on the run, ...), Johnny would have fought harder to keep Cobra Kai. Even if Kreese still managed to take the dojo, most of the students would have stayed loyal to Johnny, as Kreese couldn't turn them against him as easily without Miguel getting hurt.
In the heat of the moment, Kyler isn't going to put it together that Hawk is "Lip". Eli became Hawk in November 2017, not long after the cafeteria fight, and Kyler never realized "the kid with the mohawk" was "Lip" until he really looked at him when he and Brucks came to try out for Cobra Kai, around October 2018. Even Johnny had trouble recognizing him, and probably wouldn't have if Hawk didn't say, "I'm flipping the script."
Hawk was VERY different from Eli, even though they're the same person with the same lip scar. Hawk was a loud, confident badass, whereas Eli was a shy, timid shrinking violet.
Kyler not being in S2 was understandable, as the main theme of S2 was the battle lines being drawn between Cobra Kai and Miyagi-Do, and Kyler was persona non grata with both dojos, as neither Daniel nor Johnny would have taken him on as a student. There was really no place for him in S2, even if Joe Seo was available. My personal theory is Kyler spent the summer of S2 doubling down on his wrestling training, in the hopes of getting another shot at Miguel.
What If Sam Became Black Canary?
Tory would be a better fit for Black Canary.
He logically should’ve been in Season 2, but there wasn’t enough of a role.
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Come back after S6 starts to drop, and we might able to do "What if Silver killed Chozen?"
Honestly, I had already forgotten about the mini saga "What if the Karate Kid villains teamed up?"
Honestly, even though it's my third favorite video saga (Behind "What if Mike Barnes won in KK3?" and "Cobra Kai Multiverse), I have some problems
1- To this day I still do not believe that a union of Sato, Silver and Kreese is capable of defeating Mr. Miyagi. Sato simply didn't have enough feats to say it would make much of a difference.
2- I still don't understand why Silver and Kreese are free in Part 2, when Jhonny supposedly reported them and they ended up arrested. And why is Chozen still free and still evil? Kumiko really couldn't do anything? Did no police agency look for him?
3- Now that Jhonny, Chozen, Mike, Kreese, Silver, Master Kim Da Eun and their other 6 senseis are together, what is Daniel supposed to do in Part 3? I guess the only thing that could help him would be Miyagi's secret box... or a gun.
@@loquenderoloquillodedragonball The box revealed that Mr. Miyagi kept secrets from the rest of the world, including from Daniel. Among other things, Mr. Miyagi competed in the Sekai Taikai once upon a time.
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Oh no!
Oh man!
What if robby went to mexico with miguel? Sorry i keep suggesting that😅
Yeah go Hawk
Whoa
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He would’ve gotten dominated if he were at the school fight.
By the way, another what if idea: What if Miguel had entered LaRusso Auto and stolen? (Inspired by the clip on the official channel of the auditions)
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Given that Miguel beat Hawk at Coyote Creek in S2, Miguel wins.
But why would they fight? They're in the same dojo. The only ways I could see it happening are: 1) Miguel stops Hawk from fighting Demitri, or 2) Hawk completely falls under Kreese's spell and goes looking for revenge for Coyote Creek.
@@TheJohnnyCottsAgreed. Miguel would fuck Hawk up again
@@TheJohnnyCotts but I want a boxiest video
@@IsbsbsJsjsvah-qz4ix It can take months, if not years, for him to get to a suggestion. People were asking for "What if Kyler was in the school fight?" for 2-3 years.
1 and What if Sam and Tory has kiss in Moon party
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Thats a different story that only happens in your head lol
bro. seek mental stability.
@@southerncoastproductions7587 bro video before 25 people like my comment and my iq is 130 so i my head is good
@@Stefan_Diaz_Keene_2018 nah, you're autistic.
This what if was stupid nothing would've changed 😅
Except for Hawk’s outcome.
Thats true i suppose good point you brought up there @TreShawnBelfield
What if Kyler and Brucks became gay lovers?
He doesn't do "What if x and y were a gay couple?" videos.
What if brucks learned karate
Who knows? Maybe he went to a different dojo after Hawk rearranged his face in S3?
i feel like it’s about equivalent to how that dude mitch i think is, i can’t remember his name ik they all called him penis breath
@@TheJohnnyCotts but he never popped up after that
@@shaawoomusicHe'll be in S6. We'll find out soon enough what he's been doing.
@@TheJohnnyCotts no he’s not