USNS 2nd Lt John P Bobo Has Engine Fire and Aborts Gaza Mission | Status of Other Ships
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April 17, 2024
In this episode, Sal Mercogliano - a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner - discusses the fire onboard the US Navy's Military Sealift Command USNS 2nd Lt John P Bobo while enroute to Gaza, along with the status of the other ships sent to the Mediterranean.
#Bobo #sealift #gaza
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00:00 Introduction & Background on Gaza Mission
02:43 Sailing of Vessels to Gaza
07:19 Lopez and Bobo
10:47 Voyage of USNS 2nd Lt John P Bobo
14:37 Underlying issues for Ship Problems on Besson, Wilson Wharf and Bobo
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🚨Update on Bobo:
1️⃣ The crew was able to extinguish the fire within minutes with extinguishers and fire hoses.
2️⃣ It was in the crankcase but not a full explosion
3️⃣ Bobo is being replaced by Stockham
4️⃣ The ship is still slated to be turned over to the Ready Reserve Force
5️⃣ When the ship was returning to Jax it was ordered to wait, hence the drifting.🚨
Sal- I REALLY appreciate your increasingly forceful efforts to bring attention to the GROSS NEGLECT of both our commercial and military shipping capabilities and resources---AND OUR MARINERS.
Shit What a ridiculous notion
I agree that our Mariners are neglected, including Naval staff. Sal frequently points out that our Mariners are highly trained and skilled. They are under-equipped, and few in number.
To enlarge our merchant marine or Navy support transport capability would require many more crewmen, with requisite training and experience. That would also create a Maritime career path, giving Naval enlisted personnel a better reason to stay committed for a 20 year stay.
The transport system has returned
To me, it's an issue of "Out of Sight, Out of Mind". Like most of our civilian infrastructure, it's there and it works, and we don't think about making sure it stays that way. It works fine, why do we need to spend boatloads of money to fix something that isn't broken?
it is a sad state of affairs for the USA ,they need to close 10 bases and use the money to fix the shipbuilding/maintenance industry in America. 13 billion that just went to Ukraine could have done a lot for the shipping industry in America.
I sailed on the MV 1st LT Jack Lummus as a deck and engine cadet. Also, spent my 21st birthday on board the Lummus when we landed in Somalia for Operation Restore Hope. This class of ship is really good in their structure, form & function. However, the 2 medium speed diesels were well under powered for the size of the vessel. During my time in the engineroom, we changed out 3 cylinder liners in about 12 weeks. These engines run to about 85% of their capacity and thus increases the chance of cracking liners. It feels as though they cut corners to save money, the engineers complained about this alot.
The cranes on these vessel were also problematic and the generators. The Chief Mate despised the cranes. These vessel have 3 generators and once along side the electrical demand from the vessel is massive and a little disproprionate to the loads they were expected to supply. I recall the Chief Engineer stating that if they improved the ship board systems, they would not need to carry the large number of spare parts that they did and suggested they would have saved money in the long run.
Bottom line, I would give the vessel an A for form and function; but agree with Sal that they get a D for systems that support the form and function.
John
Are these 2 stroke diesels?
@@Darisiabgal75734 stroke. stork 18VTM410
@@Darisiabgal7573 Good question...
The engines were Stork Werkspoor 16 cyclinder TM410 diesel engines. 4 Stoke Diesels. About 13,000 shaft horse power a piece.
I would love to say I remembered that, but the internet thing happended to have the answer. Complete with the service manual for down load.
They have 3 Bergen Generators. 2500kw each.
Here is a link to the spec sheet... www.quantiparts.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/TM410_leaflet.pdf
This is embarrassing, what a sad state for our military assets. Imagine if the DoD used their astronomical budget for useful purposes instead of rampant waste. We desperately need to clean house, and hold the generals and bureaucrats accountable. I'm just wasting words though, the situation is beyond salvage.
Sadly, this is a fundamental special feature of the government as a whole. Once allocated its difficult and in many cases impossible to stop needless spending. Government should be run like a business instead of a cash cow in the milking parlor.
Not beyond salvage, not at all! Direct the I.R.S. to recruit and train thousands of new auditors, and direct all of the experienced auditors to examine everyone employed by the Defense Finance and Accounting Service for the past twenty-five years. Twenty trillion dollars went missing between 2001-2021. That's almost two-thirds of the entire national debt, and all of it was outside of the normal budget, so it's war debt.
Second, tell the Department of Defense that Congress will only fund payroll and medical, and all equipment contract payments are on the DoD to fund . . . so, "Find the missing money."
As to the state of the military, I would have Congress rescind their commissions of all officers above O-6, and winnow from there downwards. The first to lose rank should have been everyone who allowed the withdrawal from Afghanistan to proceed as it did, instead of resigning in protest. Since they demonstrated a lack of moral courage necessary to leadership, they are unfit for service and their continued service should be declined. Take it from there.
You could try having a Congress pass a actual budget instead of continuing resolutions?
White House defense budget didn’t even keep up with inflation….
In case you misesd Sal's point the dept of Navy NOT spending much for sealift ship procurement
As the old saying goes, "Amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics." You've done a great job in this and other videos making that case. Thank you.
Well yeah, as an amateur I'm gonna study what's most interesting, not what's important but boring!
@@ninjalectualx Bro took the comment as a personal insult 😆
@@ninjalectualx Me too. But, I kinda hoped that somebody in the Congress, and/or the Pentagon, is paying attention to the Logistics. "Armies travel on their stomachs" after all.
Which is why NATO have lost their proxy war in Ukraine.
@@humbug175 Nah. Europeans just love to stretch out their wars. Had the EU and the U.S. really supported Ukraine from the beginning, as they promised, there probably would never have been a war at all.
I’ve been a skipper on both the Army LSV and LCU. What you said about the lack of maintenance funding is 100% correct. Keeping the vessels underway takes miracle workers.
And also the military equipment on board these vessels that we had to maintain.
This is the result of the Cantillon effect. Richard Cantillon, a French economist, wrote about this in 1720 in An Essay on Economic Theory. He wrote how nations go broke after diving into luxuries made in foreign lands and how those closest to the "money printer" get that money 1st and are able to spend it before markets realize the inflation. Therefore being able to buy assets before their price goes up. Buy low sell high and the greater fool come to mind.
Thanks again Sal
Great comment thanks for the tip.
Pikettys R > G fits into that
Anyone who understands real economics is a radical terrorist tho. Also racist
@TheAwillz My really good buddy Simon the Uneducated Economist talks about this all the time on his channel. Uneducated as he does not have a degree, he was really motivated to learn so he did. Now he shares his perspectives with us. Would love to see you there.
@@AllNighterHeider thanks for the heads up
I can’t help but feel like this is just a repeat of the Roman Empire
Thanks for another excellent report Sal. I sailed on the Bobo as an engine cadet in the late '80's and have my sea project right here to help bring back memories! She was basically new then and is a complex ship so there are a whole lot of unique systems to degrade over time and use. I wish the best to the crew who brought her back to port safely.
Crankcase explosions can be deadly.
My father was a ships engineer (tankers) decades ago. 2 of his friends on another ship were killed by a crankcase explosion.
When the company wanted to transfer him to a similar ship, he came ashore and went into power generation.
Wow. Sad. I was the Engineering/Material Officer for MPSRONONE mid 90s. I was on board when the squadron was permanently deployed to the Med and spent many months on the Bobo and the alt flag ship, Obregon. Back then, with all the Marine Corps equipment, lets just say we were a high value target and there was a lot more willingness to keep the material condition of the ships up to a satisfactory level.
It should be noted that until 2010, there was a squadron of these ships based in the Mediterranean. Coincidentally, USNS Bobo was the flagship. Someone decided that squadron wasn't needed anymore.
Policy Focus away from the Middle East and Mediterranean. Foreign policy in general has shifted towards Asia.
Yup, I was on the Bobo. during the Gulf War.
in 2010 ... gee who was in charge then? I'm not surprised at all ... he still is.
No maritime experience. I find your videos fascinating and educational. Thank you.
Gawd. Sailing across the Atlantic on dilapidated ships. What could possibly go wrong?
More reason we need to strengthen the Jones Act and get our fleet back to strength.
Maybe change the name of the operation in 'Operation Petticoat' and paint those vessels pink.
@@michaeldonovan7522with the reduced workers because of the Boomers retirement, are sufficient US sailors available?
@@ducthman4737lol as a merchant mariner the drama at sea is crazy 😂so glad I'm home
Good thing they renamed some of them, glad they focus on that crap instead of maintenance.
I am not a mariner nor an avid sea fairer but seem to randomly love this type of content. Gotta love the internet!
Twin medium speed engines required heavy maintenance. They can experience strong, often resonant vibration. If fuel pipes are not tightly secured they can 'fret' ie, the pipe rubs against the loose securing clip. Eventually the pipe wall rubs through and you get fuel spraying around. If it hits an exhaust pipe, you will get a fire.
Thanks for the update, Professor. Knowing the state of deferred maintenance in the services, I would have been surprised if all of the assets made it in theatre. WE can't solve this issue, it's way above our pay grade, but those who can, better wake up and do it before the bill comes due.
November.
I promise you...I promise you - that engine fire IS deliberate.
ButcherBiden was told by Bibi....don't you dare let that relief ship deliver anything or..you know...that largest amount of AIPAC money you got last year amongst all the money sucking politicians ( fact)? Kiss it goodbye for your campaign. Bucko.
8 day layover?
All the ships stop in the Canary Islands?
Yeah. Right.
Delay and deter.
Wana guess what these theatrics are costing you govt funders?
Trump is a synapse challenged incompetent....but ButcherBiden is every bit as awful.
The ship lost one of it's engines? Have they tried looking in the last place someone had it, or maybe checked under the couch?
Good one
😂 my thoughts…😂
maybe someone stole it...they should have everyone turn out their pockets.
😂
Engine found on ship after brief search
After taking old drilling units back to work taking a 40 year old vessel back to sea id a work up. The crews will be using all their skills to keep her going. Fire and failures apart from hoping no injuries, it will be a moral killer not to do what they planned. With these being the reserve and needed in time of war, disaster, humanity relief leaves large questions into are nations ready or not? Nice work Sal RUclips is so full of waffle and just poor words it’s great to get a passionate, knowledgeable presenter.
Best update I have heard by far.
So great to get this information. I have daily watched the pentagon press briefing and the spokesperson has refused to offer any information to questions from reporters.
Exactly as a merchant mariner stuff is crazy on the water so glad I'm home for now
Having taken ships out of layup during Desert Shield (Aug 1990) and "Patriot Games" (Mar 1994) it is a royal PITA. In 1990 I was 2nd mate and had a 1500 lbs pallet of charts and pubs loaded on the starboard bring wing less than 6 hours before sea trials.
In 1994 I was Chief Mate and it was 96 hours from the phone call to the vessel manager until we shifted to Oakland Army Base and Concord Naval Weapon Station for loading. In 1994 there were only two Ro-Ro's on the USWC S/S Comet (built in 1958) and Meteor (built in 1967). The Meteor had an ROS (Reduced Operating Status) crew of 10, but Comet had none.
Now I am trying to remember which friends served aboard one, and which one served aboard both, and when. I can't ask, because as far as I know, all but one or two passed years ago.
@@davidgoodnow269Condolences. I'd be interested in knowing more about your friends, any kind of story!
I promise you...I promise you - that engine fire IS deliberate.
ButcherBiden was told by Bibi....don't you dare let that relief ship deliver anything or..you know...that largest amount of AIPAC money you got last year amongst all the money sucking politicians ( fact)? Kiss it goodbye for your campaign. Bucko.
8 day layover?
All the ships stop in the Canary Islands?
Yeah. Right.
Delay and deter.
Wana guess what these theatrics are costing you govt funders?
Trump is a synapse challenged incompetent....but ButcherBiden is every bit as awful.
Crank case explosion? That sounds utterly terrifying.
College indie prog-metal band name.
Only if you're in the room, not enough of a bang to do much more than chip the paint.
Of course, if you _are_ in the room there's some pretty big chunks of metal whizzing about for a few seconds.
@@vapormissilewhat are you yapping about??😂
@@alanhat5252about the same time as the brown stuff starts flying if you are there😂😂
@@alanhat5252 -The pistons of these ships are about the size of a small car.
The BOBO spent a whole summer lying off Belfast, Maine in Penobscot Bay in the late 80s/early 90s. Sailor taking the launches into town most days. Good guys...only guys back then.
Yeah...I lived in Belfast in 1992. I remember the Bobo anchored off Searsport that summer. Amazed to learn she is still in service.
only heterosexual guys too
@@randbarrett8706of course, only the most heterosexual
That was one of the last ships built at General Dynamics Quincy Shipbuilding Division (Fore River) in 1985!
Long time ago!
I actually wandered on it looking for parts that were mis-directed during my years there.
Massive cargo area!
Glad to see it STILL in service.
"Quincy Built - The Best Thing You Can Say About a Ship"
@@randbarrett8706
Yeah .. riiiiight. LoL
The original NTPF ships carried USMC cargo. 15 Days of Supply. The MPS added 15 more DOS and most of tactical vehicles needed to make up a MEU less than a brigade. As well as the Navy Lighterage needed to discharge all of the cargo onboard
Thank you, all service personnel and merchant marines who man these assignments. You're all heroes!
I have NO marine experience or any real interest ... BUT your content is really good for the average layman ... MANY thanks
You have always said that thr US hasn't kept up a seaworthy, ready fleet! Proof right here! Maybe we will wake up and fix this.
Desert Storm disaster repeat.
Let’s hope so
Lack of personal is also a real problem. Navy enlistments are at an all time low.
Waking up is political poison to the GOP. I know this is difficult to believe, but there was a time when the GOP fought hard to keep our defense well funded. Nowadays they’re more concerned with attacking the military over culture war issues.
What the hell are we spending our endless military budget on? Is it literally all being grifted?
Makes me admire the effort it took to keep the North Atlantic convoys going during the Second World War against weather, U-boats, maritime strike aircraft, commerce-raiding battleships,....and the weather!
Canada was doing it from day 1.
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*The Royal Canadian Navy and the Battle of the Atlantic, 1939-1945
Dispatches: Backgrounders in Canadian Military History*
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"At stake was the survival of Great Britain and the liberation of western Europe from German occupation. Britain could be saved from starvation, and strengthened into the launching pad for the liberation of Europe, only by the delivery of supplies, troops, and equipment from Canada and the United States. Everything had to be carried in vulnerable merchant ships that faced a gauntlet of enemy naval forces."
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"The burden on the Canadian fleet became nearly unbearable. Because the United States, the source of much of the supplies for Britain, was now in the war, in the summer of 1942 the HX convoys shifted to New York. The United States Navy, however, was not yet in a position to defend these convoys, so Halifax-based Canadian warships shepherded them between New York and Newfoundland, and then brought westbound convoys from Newfoundland to New York. These tasks were in addition to the comprehensive network of coastal convoys between Canadian and northern US ports. At the same time, Canadian escort vessels still formed a major part of the mid-ocean force that took convoys between Newfoundland and British waters and, during the summer and autumn of 1942, these corvettes and destroyers faced a new German ‘wolfpack’ offensive that was stronger still than the assault in 1941."
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www.warmuseum.ca/learn/dispatches/the-royal-canadian-navy-and-the-battle-of-the-atlantic-1939-1945/#tabs
My friend was on that ship and was part of the fire team that extinguished the fire.
Another great, well-informed description -- plenty of calm detail, deep perspective, zero blaming, outrage, and conspiracy. Shouldn't be necessary to say that, but ...The Internet.
Maybe change the name of the operation in 'Operation Petticoat' and paint those vessels pink.
Shining the light on USA readiness is very concerning, geez who knew. Very enlightening show today sir.
If you think this is bad, imagine our allies?
Obvious that the Lessons of being able to project power, deploy a force, then supply that force ; which we demonstrated in the First Gulf War have been forgotten
It's more like there are other budget priorities. Maintaining the active Force capability takes priority. And those capabilities are years behind already in maintenance and repair.
I promise you...I promise you - that engine fire IS deliberate.
ButcherBiden was told by Bibi....don't you dare let that relief ship deliver anything or..you know...that largest amount of AIPAC money you got last year amongst all the money sucking politicians ( fact)? Kiss it goodbye for your campaign. Bucko.
8 day layover?
All the ships stop in the Canary Islands?
Yeah. Right.
Delay and deter.
Wana guess what these theatrics are costing you govt funders?
Trump is a synapse challenged incompetent....but ButcherBiden is every bit as awful.
This is rather embarrassing. DOD spent all our money on F35s. maybe it's time for that Audit of the Pentagon. "Sure we'll come help, oh sorry all our stuff broke down because we prioritized away from maintenance".
Thank you for the update. Would a once over of the house committee regarding transportation commend shed more light on the navy and army ship readiness issue? I think there was a hearing last week.
That will solve NOTHING. Think back over the decades…the Congress has ALWAYS held hearings. MarAd and MSC and TransCom have issued endless studies and position papers and press releases. Presidents have likewise babbled whatever some copywriter has written up for them to say or sign.There have been endless “be-ins” where these people dress up, swill someone else’s hooch and hog it up on other people’s grub and listen to the same-old sloganeering before they go get their photographs taken as though they’ve actually accomplished something.
It’s all been nothing but talk…talk-talk-talk. No work-work-work. No new ships, no new cargo preference policies, (unless they’re queefing for a Jones Act waiver), nobody wants to step on any other interests’ toes.
And while all this yakking is going on, the ships are rusting away. The seals are drying out. The experienced crews retire and die, and no young person wants to sign up with a dying industry.
They’ll spend another few decades talking at each other about THAT, too.
It’s the culture that is the fundamental problem. The Blue Water end of the industry has evolved in an era of decline, and thus, they and we have all learned that “Hit ‘em and Run” is the way to go. No point in making the outlay and the work in improving for tomorrow because there AIN’T NO TOMORROW.
Keep the thing from burning and sinking for 5 years and then the heap is Someone Else’s Problem. The contracts get awarded to another outfit, a new commander takes over at MSC, a new MarAd Administrator is confirmed, the Congressman moves up and off the committee, (or retires or is defeated for re-election and gets a few Board of Directors gigs).There’s a new POTUS. All the players change but The Game is still the same.
Frankly, we’re seeing where this decades-long Dog and Pony Show ends up in the Russian debacle in the Ukraine…”Mistakes were made”, (but they were paid on the front end and they cashed every check and nobody will go to prison or have to assault a dug-in position with a rusty AK and Airsoft body armor, so who really cares?).
Worked on a 80 year old trawler , never had a breakdown . Speaks volumes that 40 year old ships ALL breakdown suddenly
I served on Lopez as 2nd engineer and Button as 1st engineer and one trip on Button as Chief Engineer. Lopez had a fire back around 2006 or so, maybe earlier?
My best guess, ( could be many things) but I had experienced plugs vibrating loose on the injection pumps, and one came out on watch one night, luckily we were just putt putting up to Saipan and the exhaust manifolds were not supper hot, made a lot of smoke and scared me, but got engine shut down, found the plug, fixed it and continued sailing. This was the stbd. Engine. Months later Lopez had a fire on the stbd. engine, and crew was able to put fire out. I knew the Chief and later visited Lopez, The deck on stbd. side was warped, so it must of been a roaring fire. Yep some experiences. Always worried about fires. Luckily I retired with no fires.
Hi Harry, Tom here. Was on Button with you then as 3M. A couple of years later Button had a generator flat fire (ruptured fuel line) just as we were inbound buoys 1 & 2 in Diego. Also sometime later did a dockside with you in Bremerton on either the Mendonca or Fisher. Regards and best.
@@tishomingo4524 Glad I'm retired, fire aboard a ship is the worst possible thing, er well a sinking??, ha, ha. Stay safe!
🚨Received word that Besson's week-long stay in the Azores was due to a weather diversion.🚨
LIAR! There are dozens of trucks going into Gaza from Israel every day. Why would you spread disinformation which harms Israel's global image? Do you have an issue with the Jewish people or did you simply fail to do proper research before making that comment? I'm very interested in knowing which one it was, please reply and let me know.
I believe you. It's consistent with EVERY activity in America that I know of. ... In fact, I'm surprised the situation isn't worse.
But riddle me this Batman ... where did I the money go? ... I'll eat my engineering degrees if Congress did not spend 10-100 dollars MORE than we needed ... and only 0-1 or 2 bucks went to essentials.
Yes. Just because there is a slowdown in the middle of the Atlantic could mean several reasons not related to damaged ship. An example could be TIMING AND SYCHRONIZATION. Like meeting up with a submarine or timing schedules, maybe zig zagging doing Naval training exercises involved.
I find the updates interesting and appreciate your tracking shipping information for us. I find it very interesting. Thanks a bunch. ❤
@@comm2531
I argue that Bibi commanded GenocideJoe to not let that damn ship deliver any relief....or.....the fact that we ( AIPAC) gave you, Joe, the most amount of money last year of any other politician ( fact)? Kiss it goodbye..
wonderful program Sal....best wishes....Paul
I’m constantly amazed and how well you break the information down. Always awesome content. BZ Sal.
Thank you.
😮 As always a very informative report on what’s happening with military readiness…
Phenomenal update and assessment on the state of our RORF fleet. I just hope someone in our government, in a position of power, who can help improve this current state of affairs watches this subject matter expert's videos. No finger-pointing or got-you approach here, just highlighting how things stand and what must become a priority now for DOD when time comes to stand against China, nK and Russia.
Thank you Sal.
Good analysis, Sal. Thanks.
Well so much for helping the starving civilians.
Looks like we have to do a regime change in is reel.
Wasn't going to help to begin with. Look up the news. The pier plan came directly from Bibi and the IDF would be given full authority to continue denying any and all aid coming in from said pier. He's since publicly floated using it to expel more gazans and stage offshore exploitation of gazas oil fields.
We actually have no evidence at all that anyone is starving, just what the propagandists say. They are guaranteed not to tell the truth.
@@tedmoss yes we do Ted. We have not only the word of countless American and British doctors and several congressmen who have witnessed and documented it personally, the testimony of the UN, the world central kitchen, and even Israeli aid organizations, we also have extensive video and photographic evidence, and the actual names of people who have passed from starvation. And even if you choose to ignore all of that, you can do the calculations yourself using nothing more than the IDF's own claimed amount of aid entering daily - for 6 months now, the daily aid entering has been enough to supply about 250,000 of the 2.2 million gazans with one (1) meal per day. And even if someone was able to get one of those every single day, which we know is almost never the case, that would be just enough calories to classify them as severely malnourished.
There is absolutely no way to actually look at the evidence in good faith and conclude it's not happening.
@@GlutenEruption "IN GOOD FAITH" - WITH THE PRESUMPTION that these people are not lying for personal gain, their words are to be believed..... Assuming you're so stupid to just assume people don't lie........
I believe it.... but your assertion at the end is Re(dacted).
On top of it being sheep-brained, it's a logical fallacy / contradiction / absurdity, w/e you want to call it. "You can't believe in God and in good faith, not believe in what you believe" Its not untrue, but you might be illiterate.
Thank you for this heads-up!
Great update on the situation, enjoyed listening (and learning) 🏴
correction 7th Transportation Group (now 7th Sustainment Brigade)
7th Transportation Brigade (Expeditionary) aka 7th TB(X)
@@MajorStu1 Glad someone got that right~
Thanks for all you do and please keep up the good work!!
Good Work
Think it was one of his best.
Thankyou from Alaska Much Appreciate All your Research info🙏🏽
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I like the video Sal.
Gee, if we only had Some LST’s available.
To do what? Outside of being already obsolete. They are not going to be maintained any better than these ships. Or have crew available for them.
as a USS Newport crew, they had NO capability to work on ANY of the JLOTS gear.
Old LST sailor here, '66/'67 in the far east brown and blue water navy, what an adventure.
Thanks for the report Sal.
The pier is also going to be used to ethnically cleanse the strip. Primary function I would venture to guess.
Yep that's my thinking👍🤝
Get ready for Palestine, North Dakota.
That's one of the things I still don't understand about this plan to build a pier: Who is going to prevent the Palestinians from storming the boats? We don't want any US troops on the ground, so we just expect the civilians to line up nicely and wait? That didn't even work for the aid trucks.
intense. a lot of information quickly. this guy knows his stuff. impressive
Great job Sal. Military logistics needs more great fighters like you.
Sal, Many thanks for the level of detail and intimate knowledge of the subject of your videos. Excellent job as always.
BTW re:Dali Even though you have mentioned that it has considerable damage to its bow from the bridge sections landing on it I think that it's amazing that it is even this intact considering the weight of those sections and the fact that marine design doesn't factor in having a bridge drop on your vessel as a design parameter. 😮
Yes, 4:45 the ship is small, but it is bigger than the Nina, Pinta and Santa Maria. 🤓
You mean all put together.
HMS Surprise was smaller yet.
Thanks for sharing
Simply superb..!
very conveniant, saul.
At this point I don't even know if USNS can complete setting up shop before Rafa operation begins, hopefully nothing else bad happen to further delay.
The pier is a complete joke. It's already been exposed as having come directly from Bibi, who's since suggested using it to expel gazans and help stage offshore oil exploration. Not to mention the IDF will have direct control over allowing things in through the pier, and blocking whatever they want. We don't need a multibillion dollar pier, we need Biden to force Bibi to allow the millions of waiting aid trucks in already.
I don't think this operation would help anything. Anyway. Just emboldens the enemy
In light of current events, I'm not even sure this Mission makes sense anymore? And at the rate they are going? the MV Dolly will be refloaded, before you see ship one at this pier....
The MSC ships are carrying parts of the JLOTS equipment. It will get there by the time are the Army assets are in place. BTW the Navy disestablished the East Coast ACB unit which USED TO work on JLOTS. That is why the NAVBEACHGRU One from SDGO is working this.
@@leewahler3058 I still think you'll see the MV Dolly refloated, before you see anything come over this dock.
Not surprised at this report. Congress has failed our Merchant Marine and Reserve Readiness Fleet since WWII.
Great explanation on how the roll on roll off works
Sounds like most bathtub fleets are better maintained.
Good episode, this is an important topic when we think about the state of maritime industry and shipbuilding in the United States of America!
Another great video!
Pushing these ships this long for this hard only gives the MSC and US maritime companies in general a bad reputation. It’s doing a disservice for our national security, our shipyards who maintain these old vessels the crews who work on these vessels and the vessels themselves.
Well yes but the Navy no longer views Sealift as a primary mission. You get what you dont pay for
I know it isn’t you, but the amount of comments being deleted by the algorithm is wild.
Hi Sal, You mentioned how some of the ships slowed down mid Atlantic, when I went across on USNS Merlin we had to slow down to change command from 6th Fleet to US home fleet. I finish my contract as head security officer on the Bobo, she was a great ship with a fantastic crew & the 'Commodore' and his navy personnel. I hope no one was injured. Thank you for replying to my comment about USNS Bennett, it's a shame the MPS 1 program finished. Regards from the UK.
Good video. I used to work for Army Watercraft Systems for about 3 1/2 years and the LSVs and LCUs were constantly undergoing repairs, so I'm not surprised that there were some problems doing their deployment. What surprises me is that you only mentioned a few of the LSVs and LCUs by name, since the replacement for these vessels have not yet been deployed (still in development or testing). Also the LSV stands for Logistic Support Vessel, the LCU is Landing Craft Utility. The Modular Wharfing System (MSW) is the Army wharf components you talked about earlier in the video.
Thanks Sal!
My buddy was the Chief Engineer on the USNS Apache which was an ocean going tug. He loved going out and towing ships to the ports of repair. I saw the USNS Tanner getting towed back to port after an engine room fire.
This trident pier idea is taking forever and a day, No one's getting anything logistically from it... 😂 And now supplies have been turned away?
And remember, somehow, magically, "there will be no U.S. boots on the ground. "
It’s a joke isn’t it ?😂
the whole exercise seems to be a bit of a media show more than an earnest effort
I suspect the ships were sent to enable the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza rather than the US and State of Israel killing them with starvation.
4 more years of biden lmao
Thank you for emphasizing that these conditions are systemic and due to lack of funding and not the fault of our outstanding mariners aboard these vessels. The sustainment efforts are monumental and ongoing, however, can't keep up with the level of funding, in particular considering the LSVs were slated for divestment (sold off) just a few years ago.
Great job!
Sad state of affairs
The same people who complain about the state of our fleet will be the same ones trying to dismantle the Jones Act.
I love this chanel. No bs.
Old Navy vet here, seems like ships should be left to the Navy. Certainly there could be cooperation between branches .
Yes build up the Navy and the its Sealift capabilities, let the Army do land warfare and let the Navy do the oceans. Get back to a 600 plus ship Navy.
Too much duplication..KISS keep it simple stupid...
Also..too many contractors doing military work.
Army has tried to give the navy their boats several times. Problem is the Army runs them with much smaller crews and for less money. The Navy wants too much of the Army budget to take them.
Kind of agree, but their purpose is not sexy enough. Ex Squid myself, but I did some time on LCUs with an Army Reserve unit. You would not believe how many landing craft they have.
The navy is far more incompetent and can’t run a ship with 21 crew
I think the issue is budgets for all of the service branches. Not enough money is going to building and maintaining a proper fleet of ships, planes, tanks...whatever.
Too much waste, and money going where it should not.
@@EricWeberGoogle Army LSV has a crew of 31, but Navy would want 45-50.
Appropriate name for an old vessel With engine problems…. We need to pay less to illegal aliens and get serious with our defense ! China is leaving our Navy in its wake !
Yeah, 850 billion dollars a year isn't enough. That's only as much as the next 20 countries COMBINED spend.
On the other hand, it's an incentive to start using diplomacy and making peace with people.☮ War cost money. As well as lives. We are going to have to just learn to share this planet with everyone.🌎
@@WALTERBROADDUS Tell that to China and Russia. One starting a war and one itching to start one. Wake up fool.
Wow, your channel is amazing.
On the bright side of things, the Army and Navy are really great at doing DEI and there is plenty of funding for DEI and DEI really makes peoples careers!!!
So you really believe that everyone goes around just thinking about diversity and whatnot? And that people’s careers are following this?
I promise you, in the 1940s we put bombs on foreheads, we did in the 1970s, and do the same today.
As far as trainings go, there is a heavy priority on sexual harassment and how to report/get help, there’s an emphasis on insider threats, and when I began there was a brief training on different backgrounds which has not been repeated. We’re now allowed to put pronouns in emails which minimizes communication errors and if I recall correctly took me somewhere in the range of four seconds to change; this comment is an order of magnitude longer to draft.
@@caseychambers2693 it's not about your "training" it's about who decides to implement it at the top leadership in the "company". For instance did anyone in the company push back over the idea of this stupid mission? 15 miles north is the world class port of Asklon, 10 miles north of that world class port of Ashdod. It's like sending the backwater of the Army and civilian junk to Mogadishu to build a port that isn't needed.
@@dhardy6654 I promise you that senior leadership is not worrying about DEI in their day to day. And this one came from White House and SecDef, not the company level.
I don’t even think this mission is a particularly good idea myself. I see logistical and security risks that do not appear to be fully resolved. But to claim that DEI is behind this; it’s not. The issue is the access of land-routes into Gaza which at a high level has been determined needs resolution through direct beach access.
@@caseychambers2693 the navy's chief of Naval Operations is women. It's everywhere
@@caseychambers2693 when I said "the company" ..... It means Uncle Sugar.
Hey Sal. This is my first veiwing of your posts. Well done. I sailed on the BOBO Class BUTTON for five years in Squadron 3, then left to contract vessel maintenance and repairs to the fleet for the next 29 years in Saipan before retiring late last year. Vessel manning is the bare minimum by USCG requirements. The entire unlicensed crew could be doubled, and still wouldn't be able to keep up with the maintenance.
never miss a sal
Great information, sorry I was late with my notification. You should be an advisor to our next POTUS, the one that's awake. 👍👍
Great video. Thank you. I worked in the MPS program in the eighties aboard TACS 4 USNS Gopher State among others. Participated in JLOTS training missions and operation steel box. I wonder if these vessels are still active and slated to partake in the Gaza relief mission?
Thanks Sal
you are a go to intel resource my friend. Your work will be invaluable when it hits the fan in the near future.
I don't think I've ever seen so many hidden comments on a YT video.
Agreed, I wonder why?
I think this is the latest iteration of the glitch. Yesterday, there was a bunch of messages saying people had exceeded their "like" quotas. I was getting "Sorry unknown error occured" and could get the thumbs up to work half the time. Maybe the algorithms are on strike, making plans to unionize. ✌️😸
Well, it hid my comment. I guess I shouldn't poke fun at the algorithms....
Lotta racist comments on this video. RUclips might be taking that seriously today. Or not.
Great work; we ought to all contact our Congressional Reps/Senators and plead for assistance
I sailed as an AB on a MSC charter in 2005 supporting Iraqi Freedom. The ladders were so rusty they crumbled and we had to rig Jacob's ladders around the ship. The starbord engine siezed about half way to Kuwait.
I've been waiting for an update on the little USAVs that could. I was watching them plod along the Atlantic on MarineTraffic. That must have been a hellish journey. And now they've all been chilling in Souda Bay off Crete for a few weeks. Seems like Joe forgot about the 60 days idea.
Not all. Wilson Wharf is in Tenerife
Be careful of the political considerations when you say the Navy is slow.
Your the best ❤
Very interesting Sal, I didn’t know this side of the services was this big and in so piss poor shape. Reminds me of my time on the USS Yorktown when we hit a milestone of 25 and Alive 😊
We're providing more aid to Gaza than we are to the fire victims in Maui, or the train derailment victims in Palestine, Ohio. Democratic logic. Vote accordingly in November.
Can't make this stuff up and they want us to go to war, lol. We are in such sad shape.
For Freedumb!!!!
You could take this in another Direction? It's an incentive to make better use of diplomacy and peace. War is getting pricey and expensive.☮