Gay Marriage on Can of Worms
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Farmer Dave Graham and fiancé Michael field a question about gay marriage on Australian TV Show Can-of-Worms. Celebrity Chef Julie Goodwin and comedian Lawrence Mooney defend gay marriage equality. 68 % of Australian want gay marriage.
As much as I read the Bible, the New Testament came to break up with the old laws. Christ preached about LOVE, not judging, being supportive even to your enemy. Dave, the little I know about you has shown me you've got all the qualities praised by Christ. Certainly you're much better than many 'straight' discriminatory people. Being our truly selves gives us more possibilities to LOVE. LOVE, LIVE, LEARN n LAUGH MAC.
Parliament in New Zealand just passed gay marriage into law with the third reading of the bill legalizing it. It long past time for Australia to do the same.
That Dave guy from the audience was from Big Brother Australia in 2006
Well said, Dave. Congrats and all the best for you and Michael.
>They want to feel superior
by being treated exactly the same, very logical
I assume you're being sarcastic or a troll
Marriage is part of society we must not forget that Christians should not try to decide who we should or should not marry. It is up to individuals themselves of who should marry.
The Christians of the world are only hurting themselves if they continue to use the bible to continue their discrimination against gays and lesbians. More and more people will reject the church but it does not mean that they still believe that God loves everyone even Gays and Lesbians.
It is what the Bible says!
Marriage is a legal construct and the government gives the couple many legal advantages with regard to property, finances and
Right to visit in hospital and attend a funeral. A wedding is the romantic part of marriage . Gays need these rights too-
Has Farmer Dave gotten married yet? I came across his videos and I was looking for his happily ever after segment.
Marriage is completely antiquated!
Oxford dictionary: the formal union of a man and a woman, typically as recognized by law, by which they become husband and wife.
This has been the understanding of what marriage is since the dawn of civilization. My question is why not be happy with "civil unions" which is a more accurate term and gives gay partners the same legal rights as married partners?
didnt cover the fact that marriage was lawful in the beginning.
actually it is gay, and not evil
It wasnt always this, marriage used to be defined in so many other ways. Blacks couldnt inter marry, various religions couldnt inter marry. I mean, so much has changed in terms of how marriage is defined, why not accept the gay community and let them be equal with every other human being on the planet, in terms of relationship status?
In the case of gay marriage, the 'human rights' component is directly related to the legal benefit of being married. I think that having a separate legal union for same sex couples is a generous compromise that cannot be construed as a violation of human rights, even by the most sensitive of standards. Atleast not rationally. Same sexes want a marriage synonymous to that of a traditional marriage, but that (legally) adopts the definition of sodomy for grounds of marriage consummation in heterosexual couples, which is not sanctimonious. They are gaining perceived value of marriage at our expense. Mankind can LABEL gay marriage as sanctified, but that does not make it so. The nature of their union is different, so why is it so offensive to be labeled differently? It is a simple concept really. Offering gay's the same legal rights under a different title, and their dissatisfaction with that compromise is a testament to their vigor for entitlement for none other than the sake of devaluation of marriage. The appeal for them in having the same terminology as we do in traditional marriage is only appealing for the enmity it carries, and attention seeking behaviour, and for the sake of being controversial. Any other underlying reason would not make sense because how then is a separate legal arrangement a violation of human rights? By rejecting a unique legal arrangement that offers the same social benefits on the basis of inequality is a insecure stance by the same sex community, because the inequality of such an agreement is based on their own perception of their union being inferior. What other reason would they not take pride and have contentment in their own legal union tailored to them? Since they are adverse to Christianity, why would they want traditional marriage founded in a belief in God, for reason's other than de-valuing it? Classic case of a dog wanting the bone just because the other one is chewing on it. Because a sizeable percentage of straight couples still care about Biblical doctrine, there remains a supply of moral property which is available to toy with as something of a play thing. To me their arguments are transparent. A picture I paint is the heterosexual community demanding that the 'pride' parade be called 'shame' parade. The compromise would be having our own 'straight' parade. But that's not good enough, we will accept nothing less than they term theirs shame parade. In actuality, we just let the parade be. We don't have this burning desire to be contrary, and force our definition of their parade on them, and kick up a big fuss. So don't rain on our parade. We just want to keep what is ours. Gay marriage is not being attacked. That is manipulative wording. The established party being encroached upon by an interfering party is the definition of the attackee. The interfering party want's someone else's (moral) property, so rather than settling somewhere uninhibited, (separate legal arrangement) they attack. They do not want uncharted territory, they want the spoils previously cherished by the long standing and rightful owners. It is more dramatic that way. Of course the interfering party can spin this around and cry intolerance because they are to highly emotional to be reasoned with, which therefore somehow makes them the ones being attacked. After the marriage bill is passed it is laughable that they will be satisfied. Next, Obamacare will be covering 'trans gender' surgery. If tax payers/ premium payers don't cover that, of course that will be the most grave of human right violations. I wonder if they're laughing to themselves when they're “consummating their marriage“ via sodomy, for the sake of pleasure alone, that we take the 'sanctity of their union' so seriously and we delicately tippy toe around the eggshells of our precise un offensive wording. (as I find myself doing on this post in order to avoid the most vile of personal attacks I receive only on the topic of gay marriage from men who desire oppositional words be handled with velvet gloves, whilst the double standard of tolerance does not permit me the same luxury.) Meanwhile they get off on the sheer ecstasy of their inequity and the demonic energy produced by what they engage in. They simply cannot change what the Word of God say's, no matter how much they victimize their own social position. Society may stand for it, but He does not.
Er what happened to Sherif?
where the hell is that 68% percent in the us? never heard a valid secular argument not rooted in fear against gay marriage and never will
This. Q&A would have done (actually I think they did) this 10x better.
and your proof of this is what exactly?
As a gay man I landed here on the post. not watching the video. u all seek a prejudice. get over it
no, u seek perversion dont force your perversion on to us u get over it.
Richard B no one is forcing anything on you, you people are choosing to get involved.
our constitution says marriage is between one man and one woman thats called hetrosexual marriage, gay marriage is not written in the constitution, anyone trying to re-write the constitution to redefine marriage is trying to force their views and lifestyle upon us the decent moral majority, there are 37,000 same sex couples and only 7000 same sex couples agitating to force change upon us and wasting 120 million tax dollars to boot, thats social terrorism not to mention all the hate speech and hate demonstrations of the LGBTI mob
+Nick Dwyer Pedophilia is legalised in California. Pandora's box opened. they now claim pedophilia is a sexual preference not a crime. not to mention the changes to our education system. And children produced like cattle and given to two men to raise without a chance of a mother. this rabbit hole goes deeper than meets the eye please research before voting. Safe schools is evil and you need to do your research. vote no to protect our kids.
just realised thats david from big brother lol.
ARE YOU KIDDING? What did you time travel from like 100 years ago? Arresting people for loving other HUMANS is absolutely absurd!
Lawrence Mooney is a legend. agree with everything he says here.
The first commandment is "Thou shalt have no gods before me". What's that got to do with jews and muslims getting married?
Pedophilia is legalised in California. Pandora's box opened. they now claim pedophilia is a sexual preference not a crime. not to mention the changes to our education system. And children produced like cattle and given to two men to raise without a chance of a mother. this rabbit hole goes deeper than meets the eye please research before voting. Safe schools is evil and you need to do your research. vote no to protect our kids.
great comment was made. If your opinion is one that promotes the oppression of a group of people, then you have no right to that opinion.
Look, I take issue with this a bit to be honest. I'm a Christian and I absolutely support gay marriage. I'm very active in protesting for the issue. My church supports gay marriage, and we are not the only Christian church to do so. Within my religion there are many different factions. Some are very conservative, mine is not. I vote for the Greens and have very open, liberal views, while I know that other Christians absolutely do not. We're not all the same, please remember that :)
Against God's laws!
Thank God I'm ex atheist, Union official & Communist sympathiser.But I've still keep my bio of Karl Marx on my book shelf.
Marriage Act shouldn't be a law in this day and age, 1960's Australia was a christian majority nation so a christian religious union was the answer, Fed Gov should just recognize legal unions, not marriage, leave marriage or any other religious unions to their religious leaders etc. It's an easy compromise for both sides to see.
There are none.
The Bible is the most powerful object in humanity. It is the only thing that can cast demons from the possessed.
COINCIDENCE. ?
and your proof that im wrong? is? - or are you running mere opionion ?
Everyone has equal rights no matter what race gender sexuality that's just my opinion not judging anyone :)
During a time when the infant mortality rate was 7 out of 10 and people didn't know to wash after wiping, religions survived with numbers. Have lots of children is part of every religion for just that reason. The Bible was written by people, otherwise, there wouldn't be so many mistakes. The idea is that the authors of the Bible were "inspired" not "perfect".
Wow not one single valid argument against gay marriage
the world is over populated, I wouldn't want the population to flourish.
keep your bigoted comments and views to yourself. please
Not letting Homosexual people get married is like punching a burger out of someone hands because your on a diet. :/
as you think - one day you will know it - to late
Thank god I am an ex-Catholic turned Athiest.
WHY THANK A GOD U DONT BELIEVE IN U R CONFUSED FLUID SEXUALITY FADING IN AND OUT DAY BY DAY
then you are a lost soul
Pedophilia is legalised in California. Pandora's box opened. they now claim pedophilia is a sexual preference not a crime. not to mention the changes to our education system. And children produced like cattle and given to two men to raise without a chance of a mother. this rabbit hole goes deeper than meets the eye please research before voting. Safe schools is evil and you need to do your research. vote no to protect our kids.
Am I the only one that got the joke, 🙄😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂💝
oh look! When Can Of Worms was actually good!
try the letters in the bible real people to real people eye witneses
...how did that go? oh right, two more states got same sex marriage rights,. The reclamation continues
pass me the bucket
Or live in Ouganda
@ the christian population
1) if you dont like gay marriage, then don't do it yourself
2) If you have a problem with ammending the marriage act, well did you know islamic and jewish people can get married unter the marriage act, and what's the first commandment? Looks like you got bigger problems...
Marriage is sacred & sex is to be enjoyed between a loving husband & wife, period! Do it God's way, it's better. 🤷♀️🇦🇺
Sabah Amal Not everyone is Christian, I see you have your own views. From your beliefs being gay is a sin, but for what reason do you have to stop them, they don’t affect you at all. I understand you may have the need to save others from sin, but you have nothing much to gain from it and when you show bigotry in public it gives Christianity a bad name.
Dave from Big Bro!!!!
lol and sad. Just please don't plant a bomb somewhere in Australia. Please............
its david big brother 06 australia 4.50
They're BOTH HOT !!!
but who cares if they do right?
define homophobia
look, i completely agree with you, but please dont group all christians with these meatheaded homophobes. im a christian and im equally as invested as you in trying to stamp out ignorance regarding this issue.
god this guy is in love withe him self ...
Ron Paul on gay marriage (Dr. Paul says yes and even wins the Values Summit GOP Straw Poll!)
/watch?v=l1gzs27HswQ on gay marriage statement
/watch?v=ug1nZSI_fsA Values Straw Poll result conservation
Vote Ron Paul, President 2012! -- The anti-war candidate -- and champion of the Constitution!
again, very little logic
Dark Ages, too right!
Praise the lord, indeed. Oh, wait. He Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. Only Paul. Who later on told us that all things previously said don't apply anymore and that if you do follow those rules in the Old Testament, you are under a curse. Jesus sacrificed himself so that we wouldn't have to live by those laws and be 'cursed'; he took all of the curse. So none of those rules apply anymore. And as a rule, it's wise not to bring religion into politics. It's a democracy not theocracy.
Hmm you should be arrested for being homophobic, that I would totally agree on!!!! who's with me?
So a guy told me,
I cheated on my wife because of gay marriage,
and his with said,
well I maxed out his created cards because of gay marriage.
Then they both said,
see how gay marriage affects our marriage.
After being shock
I said,
Oh my god,
I wonder why a gay person would hate straight people.
that's so weird.
"Blacks couldn't inter marry" - but it was always between man and woman
"religions couldnt inter marry" - but it was always between man and woman
None of this ever changed the definition of marriage between man and woman. I do believe gay relationships are equal to hetero relationships but I also believe they are different and there's nothing discriminatory about making that distinction.
the gay couple are cute lol.
u have very little logic
He's right Dave, he is gorgeous!
Meh, he's alright.
The truth will prevail. No one can stand against God. Judgement will come. True Christians know how this will all end. May the Lord forgive and have mercy on all who support this abomination for they know not what they speak these utterance of foolish words.
Demons don't exist. Thus the bible's ability to "cast out demons" is akin to doing nothing.
Stopped watching when Dicko showed up on the screen. This show dumbs down Australians.
your an american what a surprise
NO WAY >>>>NO HOMO MARRIAGE >>>>>NOT BEFORE >>>NOT NOW>>>
NOT EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get over it!!!!
+tarnowek1 Thank God the dinosaur of Abbott is gone so now gay marriage can happen. And yes, it will happen, sooner or later. It is inevitabl.
maybe not lets hope....even if it does it will only be ...always just a pretend "marriage" like the guy in germany who "married" his chicken LOL , don't forget marriage was is and always be between a MAN and Woman .
tarnowek1 Actually, no. The bible talks about many marriages of one man and many women, incest, men and their help, concubines, etc. So it is just recently that it is between one man and one woman... until now, in 20 countries but slowly the rest of the world will adopt it... whether bigots like it or not
tarnowek1 It sounds like the typical convenient cherrypicking and interpretation that people do of that book, where raping someone's daughter but paying a fee is Ok, but that two people love each other is wrong. But anyway, each to its own, you keep reading your bible and selecting what you want to follow and I will keep saying that human beings are entitled to find their partner and establish a relationship with them, and that is no one else's business.
1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT). 2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT). 4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) "If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her" 7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)
"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."
So no real proof, just religious bs