Definitely true. No logical adult actually takes him seriously. That’s why it’s older people who make fun of him and basically babies who listen to Sneako. I don’t get how he doesn’t see that though
As much as I empathise with kids getting radicalised by Sneako, Tate, etc., I can’t help but fear for the queer kids in their school and having to share a space with people who are so open about hating them
I worry about the people around them when these boys become men. A lot of people like to think they'll grow out of it, or they'll get deradicalized when they get older and experience life a little more. I don't think so. How many kids did you know who were terrible to the people around them who didn't grow up to also be terrible adults later? Maybe some. But not most. He's helped them learn thought cycles you usually see in cults. It's very concerning for the future of public health.
I fear for the queer kids who hate people more vulnerable than them to 'fit in'. When shit hits the fan it ain't gonna be the 60+ teacher coming to your defence. They refuse to admit it's not the 80s anymore.
in addition to that, i worry about the women that will be mistreated, harassed, and assaulted by these boys and (eventual) men. part of the ideology is entitlement over women’s bodies, and that women are the inferior sex that was created to serve men. my own sister dated a guy like this, even thinking about him makes my blood boil. he kept his beliefs a secret and mislead her but i picked up on the dog whistles. this willful ignorance and deep seeded hatred of a significant group of other human beings scares me. the state of our country and culture is frightening (take florida’s legislature for example). algorithms and access to tech at an earlier age compounds this even further.
You know the worst part about this? Sneako's "I was the same way when I was their age." Is like quantifiably wrong. He's only a bit older than me and I've been on RUclips since I was way too young to be on RUclips so I know from experience how wrong he is. Sneako had a RUclips channel around their age. I SAW IT. He was definitely edgy, but more than that he was fairly eloquent and knowledgeable and thought provoking for his age. I remember a few years back, way before what he does now, he did an interview with a nonbinary RUclipsr where they talked about gender and sexuality and he wasn't fucking bell hooks but he approached the conversation with respect and was willing to learn. This new Sneako is definitely fucking disgusting, but worse it's disappointing.
@@finthetrashcanI really haven't landed on either side on the matter. Gun to my head I couldn't figure out if its a grift or if he was just like this the whole time
That's actually really surprising. It kinda baffles me when people can be like this and then jump on, as people say, a right wing "grift" seems like they just don't believe in anything except getting attention and money...
It feels like he had a "I want financial independence so I'm gonna hustle my way to it" moment where he used to have thoughts about egalitarianism that are now shelved for good because it would require a larger degree of self-sacrifice over self-service on his part. He was at a moral crossroads and just leaned into the side that was going to make him money, and you know, that's sad for him but also that we have a system that generally awards people being misanthropic and causing harm to other people.
If I were feeling uncharitable (and I always am), I’d point out the interesting irony of someone who likes to shout “groomer” at everyone pushing an agenda on his very young, exclusively male, fanbase that involves them performatively hating anyone who is not a cis man, while panting like puppies for his approval…
It's funny, the term groomer came from the 1970s when it was used against queer people. A woman coined it. Can't remember her name. But the fact that that term came back shows that boomers refuse to die and keep their hatred to themselves.
☺ aww shucks, thanks :) I lopped off the last two sentences because I didn't want to directly accuse him of wanting to diddle little boys... oops@@JScott-md6dv
I hate the "they're just kids" excuse. So are the queer kids they're bullying. These kids will "grow and change" while queer kids will have to deal with the trauma of living in a world hostile to them their entire lives
it's just a bad situation. they're victims who victimize other people. it's kinda morally grey. (except of course for the queer/poc/disabled kids who had no fault at all)
@@ErieRosewood These kids aren't victims, they're targets. They aren't personally hurting by being taught to be this hateful in anywhere close to the scope of the queer kids they will traumatize. They might not be *guilty* or had a choice because they simply lack the developed brains to understand what they're saying and believing, but that doesn't make them innocent victims. The fault of their behavior falls to the adults in their lives that aren't teaching them better values, but the actual problem is that a lot of adults condone this kind of behavior, only disagreeing with how explicit these kids are.
@@AutismGaming489queer kids are snowflakes if their classmates and adults are talking about harming them and it affects them/traumatizes them?? These kids deserve a lot more kindness than you are offering.
Also, being an adult in that situation is just so incredibly painful and awkward, because unless you're a super cool adult they already respect, they'll consider you lame and cringe for trying to discourage them from making comments or jokes that they "know" are just the funniest and truest things ever said, and you're just too old and cringe to get it.
as a black queer person i resent the way that folks-most commonly those who identify as liberal-always hyperfocus on giving ppl that perpetuate violence endless grace to the point that they forget to have equal amounts of empathy for the victims of that violence. i see that in this video; your acknowledgment of the fact that the childrens' blind regurgitation of sneako's rhetoric has real-life repercussions was only a footnote. it has big "everybody was edgy when they were 14, give them a break!" vibes and then the edginess in question was racism 😭 while that edgy 14 year old may grow out of their racism, their peers that had to deal with the fact that little johnny was an avid idubbbz watcher carry that trauma and then are told by society that they have to forgive the person that hurt them or even feel bad for them... it leaves you feeling very gaslit. the children in that sneako video WERE terrible for being misogynistic/homophobic/transphobic and they are also victims, those things are not mutually exclusive.
you can be edgy in both directions. Honestly, i didn't even think conservatives really could be truly edgy tho. If you think about what the word is really supposed to represent, and conservatives are the party of tradition, stagnation. Don't let them have edgy. I didn't get suspended for practicing witchcraft in chapel just so these nerds can take that from us.
@banquetoftheleviathan1404 notice in my original comment i said "then the edginess in question was racism," my entire point is that ppl tend to treat young perpetrators of the -isms especially with more care than they do their young victims. that includes mincing words when discussing their bigotry i.e. calling racism/sexism/queerphobia "edgy." i have no attachment to the edgy label and even if i did, words can have different meanings depending on the context
i was sat here trying to find the right words to say exactly what you've just said so thank you. I was that queer kid in school and now I am a teacher doing my best to protect all the kids, including the queer kids, under my care and I see the same things. The 'edgy' borderline racist, homophobic kids get to grow out of it, forget and move on however the trauma sticks with those that they bullied. It was very hard to sit here and watch a similar rhetoric be pushed. The kid from the sneako vid will most likely be just fine - i agree he is being groomed and pushed down a pipeline. it sucks and those kids need protection, however people have a right to feel angry and overall I'm more worried about the queer kids he may be interacting with at school.
“They were kidding and also it’s ‘YOUR’ fault.” Ok buddy Is there anything more indicative of a panicked desire to avoid accountability than multiple, conflicting excuses?
I have a 12 year old cousin that im very close with and I worry all the time that when he gets online he's gonna fall down this pipeline. the thing is, 12 year olds don't wanna listen to *anybody* unless they (or their friends) found some guy online that they think is funny or makes entertaining videos (for people my age it was usually idubbbz or pewdiepie, tobuscus, shane dawson, filthy frank etc etc). you can see in that clip how much these kids want his approval, it's the exact same look my little brother gave our older brother when he cussed around him to be funny for the first time. kids that age copy the people they think are cool and idk. you can't tell them anything they just have to come around on it and unlearn it sometimes, which is scary.
i hope not, but i don't remember being like that when i was 12 (a few years ago), so i'd like to think that doesn't happen to everyone (although, i might either be misremembering or just in the vast minority).
@@niicespiice I wasn't either, but I saw my brother go through it as well as a bunch of my peers, so I figure it's at least semi prevalent? I have hope but it's a difficult thing to have to watch
Tell them anyways. Tell them each and every time. So that when they do have that moment of clarity, they'll remember your words, your stance and it will make it easier for them to decide what's right and what simply is not. Bigotry doesn't always win and that's beautiful ❤️
Actually Sneako is 180° removed from his original form. He was actually a critical thinker in the beginning of his quest for social media relevance and produced thoughtful and mostly open minded videos where he was questioning real societal ills but he got very little traction. After struggling to break out for years he came across the exploding man-o-sphere and saw the potential and started to adopt those talking points. As he started to blow up he got stuck in a loop which required him to say and believe worse and worse stuff in exchange for more and more clicks. It's crazy, look it up.
This feels like such a common thing at this point. Candace Owens and Jesse Singal were both actually originally trying to attach themselves to more leftist stuff online. The moment they started publicly venting some frustration with not getting traction, the people there to tell them they were actually brilliant and underappreciated all happened to be a particular sort of person. I don't know if they can just smell blood in the water or what.
Approaching this from the perspective of a trans person who has operated in the public school system in a post-Andrew Tate world (fs in the chat), I feel terrible for these kids, and I feel so much worse for the girls and queer kids who have to pay the price for this behavior. As much as these kids are too young to have been subjected to such harmful content, the people around them who have to overhear these things about themselves are too young to feel that sense of fear.
Talk about blaming the victim! Why aren't the right-wing Christian kids ever held accountable for radicalizing the left-wing atheist kids in a similar manner, mmm?
No, he's not crazy - he's blaming the victim. He's acting like the mere existence of LGBT people justifies hating them. It's a tried and true argument from people just like him.
my heart shatters for the little girls those boys go to school with. they’re going to hear some of the most vile, sexist stuff at such a young age from their classmates. i can’t imagine how dehumanizing and scary it must be for them.
At Christmas last year my seven year old cousin called me a dirty illegal when I tagged him during our game of freeze tag. Stuff like this is scary. I don’t see him outside of Christmas, otherwise I’d try to help him. I sat him down and explained to him why that was wrong, and he told me it’s what his grandpa and the tv say. So scary… even scarier that our entire family consists of immigrants….
I'm from a dirt poor family with intergenerational trauma + chronic illness & I'm the only one on disability (after being forced from my dream job) who doesn't think all other people on disability are "lazy liars". It's genuinely heartbreaking hearing my disabled family members villainize vulnerable groups we are or should be in solidarity with. My safe phrase is "I know who's taking food from my mouth, & it's not ____ [other disabled folks, LGBTQ+, refugees, striking workers, whoever they're being bigoted towards that moment]." But it's so inadequate. The amount of damage rightwing rhetoric has done is untold + bottomless.
I was literally almost murdered by kids like this when I was in school. They can have empathy once their views have changed, until then they are the same kids who stomped my head until I was hospitalized. I’m disappointed in the dismissal of how deeply vile these children are, and disappointed that you will give a pass to monsters because of how they became monsters without first demanding that they stop being monsters.
Children's words of hate are arguably the worst because if a "gutsy", rude 12 yo walks up to me with that nonsense, literally what am I supposed to do? I can't even argue with em or call the authorities for being harrassed and hate crime'd lol All I can do is stare in comfusion. That's all who isn't either their parent or their idol can do. Very sickening tbh.
At that point, weaponize ageism against them. "Yeah? Well after this you're going to have to get up and go to school again tomorrow, and I'm going to work from home and fuck my partner." "Cool, so did you get all your homework done? No Sneako til you've finished all your homework and your chores, Timmy." Sometimes, kids learn best by fucking around and then finding out.
I guarantee that so many people would slap the shit out of bigoted kids like this if it was legal. It's not thank god cause it would open the doors for a lot more child abuse but these kids are also abusive and hopefully they unlearn that and become descent adults.
At some point the parents are at fault too. Kids can still "rebel" by being "edgy" from caring parents that try to teach them respect and kindness, but that is not the majority of what is happening. There is a level of emotional neglect that allows this behavior to become a problem, that and many parents are likely reinforcing the bigotry. My brother grew up to be a raging misogynist because my parents never corrected him or talked to him about the sexist things he said and always chalked it up to "he is just joking." They look back on that now and regret it, because now it is negatively affecting his life and they finally understand that it also affected my life as well.
Yep! I had to be ultra-secretive about some of the edgy stuff I was into or that I believed at that age because I knew my parents would've put the kibosh on it *immediately,* and I get the impression that there are too many kids who aren't having to work that hard. I really worry about the kids who are going down Internet rabbit holes that their parents most definitely do not understand and therefore cannot properly supervise or offer advice or guidelines about.
The fact his almost immediate commentary is "what have I done" followed by a tweet where he shoves the blame on the nebulous gays is true madness. Like real, cult levels of cognitive dissonance.
My internalized biphobia as a kid led me to parroting the homophobic bullshit that went around in school. Kids that age 100% have no idea what anything means and are just doing things to be validated. Let's hope that they grow more and more progressive each passing year like I did.
What worries me is that so many of these kinds of kids - these young kids radicalized by alt-right influencers, other internet personalities, and the bigoted adults in their lives - just grow up to be close-minded, cruel adults who treat people just as horribly as they did when they were younger. They won't grow without their own concerted effort to be better.
i honestly feel a serious level of sympathy for these kids - i nearly fell victim to this same pipeline when i was their age thanks to carlgon benjamin and it took a lot of work to pull myself out. i just hope these kids manage to get out of reactionary ideology.
I feel sympathy for the queer kids they will severely harm in the process of them becoming the bare minimum of decent people. This will be a phase in their lives they *might* grow to regret and is going to take the same amount of deprogramming that is basically the same as the mandatory deprogramming every queer person had to do in their own discovery and figuring out how to even exist in the world. But the queer kids will also have the added trauma and deep scars of exclusion and persecution of their peers and society at large that isn't just solved with a few years of personal development where you come out a better person. It's the kind of thing that forces queer kids back into the closet with only self-harm and suicidal ideation to keep them company, and saying it's going to take a lifelong therapy to manage it is still an understatement.
I was a little jerk at 12 just because I was bitter and angry about being bullied and excluded by my peers, and had already been exposed to what we'd consider *mildly* edgy and spicy humor and hot takes today.
I feel bad for these kids. I feel bad for their classmates. But I'm kinda glad this happened. If anything, it is proof that Sneako is embarrassed by these beliefs, cause if he wasn't he'd give the kids the validation they seek in public. He'd encourage them. And then he'd go online and talk about how proud he is of those kids. But between him back-pedaling when confronted with his own words, him brushing it off as a joke, and him trying to push the blame onto others, it shows that he's not really proud of himself. And I'm being optimistic here, but maybe this is the first step to deradicalization. If there is any humanity left in him, then maybe he'd be like "that was embarrassing, maybe I sould dial back."
I don't think he'd want to accept any accountability, say that he's been a negative influence, or anything like that unless he thought he could use it as a new grift. Which I don't see him doing. He might have been saying "no we love everyone" to the kids at the time... But then he basically immediately completely undoes that by his statement afterwards. Boys will be boys. It's actually everyone else's fault. Blah blah blah.
@@uniquenewyork3325 Like all of manosphere grifters he believes his own words, he just thinks that if he twists the narrative enough to be about "forced agendas" his points become justified. He's smart enough that he rationalized himself into thinking that bigotry has real intellectual merit if you just add enough layers of justification on top. Sometimes all intelligence does for a person is make their mental gymnastics more impressive. He has that, he just doesn't have the self-awareness or willingness to examine his actual core beliefs(and doesn't possess that 1 particular mental skill to do so) to reach a conclusion that he's wrong. When what he is saying IMPLICITLY gets picked up by kids who don't have his ability to twist the ideas into sounding nicer and more civilized, they will explicitly say his quiet parts out loud, and I don't think he knew that this is what he's been saying all along. And he still might decide that the kids who watch him every second and hang on his every word just misunderstood everything 180 degrees.
@gwen9939 yeah it seems like this type of person can't just admit that "the idea of trans/gay/gender equality makes me feel yucky, and I don't want to be involved in anything to do with those issues." Instead it has to be "women do this terrible thing to men and think they're so special, so I don't like them because they are stupid and self absorbed and not even that hot anyway," or "trans/gay people are a danger to our children! We have to get rid of them for the children! It's certainly not that I want LGBT people to go away or become closeted for my own personal comfort."
The crazy thing is that Sneako was actually super thoughtful and actually intelligent at 12. He posted videos talking about how wicked American foreign policy was and the disasters it’s caused. He’s degenerated as he aged
he didn't degenerate, he actually just realized that holding reactionary opinions gets more attention and money than trying to make reasonable, informed, intelligent content. its definitely worked for him. just really embarrassing and he knows exactly what he's doing. he's not stupid, he's just a grifter
As a girl in middle school i mean the boys were awful with their "jokes". My age, middle school was when idubbbz saying the n word was popular and all that edgy stuff. It really gave this boys an armour to sit behind. They could make fun of their percieved out-group and bully people by making them outsiders through quoting these kinds of memes and content at people. It was terrible and when confronted they would always be like "its just a video online/ its just a joke/ its just a meme", and gett off scot free
That video to me is one of the peak examples of "fuck around and find out." It's honestly annoying to see Sneako double-down on being a reactionary coward afterwards, despite the video showing him to be pretty clearly shocked and unnerved by what he was hearing the kids around him say. How can someone clearly have a level of self-awareness to see and notice the consequences of their actions, yet be so completely spineless as to not do a single moment of self-reflection or introspection afterwards?
He's a grifter and he's uncomfortable witnessing the impact of his actions but if he exposes that, he'll ruin the facade he made up so he just keeps lying to keep making money
Funny thing is, sneako was actually *almost* based when he was their age. He criticised American imperialism and shit while playing cod, he had some actual interesting opinions, doubly so when you consider his age at the time
I'm still waiting for Cr1tikal to do an update on this situation. He platformed Sneako and basically forgave him for the drama between the two of them, while not really even addressing this side of things. But then, he also defended Dillon Danis harrassing Nina Agdal and threatening to release revenge porn of her, basically just calling it regular fight drama. Charlie's often got a good viewpoint on things, but he's been very wrong a few times recently and it sucks to see.
IMO Charlie has always been a pretty run of the mill centrist rich RUclips boy who’s gotten popular off of making p rudimentary moral beliefs, such as “pedophilia is bad” or “don’t assult people”, seem like insanely hot takes when really they’re the opinions of the majority. However, as soon as a situation is more complex or requires him to step outside himself, such as with Idubbz’s apology, he physically can’t and ends up spewing a lot of gamer gate-esque rhetoric
@@99kills53 As a society we should move past the point where we care about what Charlie thinks. He's a "got in at the ground floor" youtuber who no one would've consciously decided needed to be added to the internet if he hadn't been there already. He's at least not as bad as Asmongold who's claim to fame is the exact same, but neither should be listened to for anything that has any kind of ties to social justice.
i haven't watched Charlie in so many years, but i used to religiously watch the Official Podcast Charlie, Kia, Andrew, and Jackson hosted. now, Kia is famous for being the worst one in that outfit, but like i don't forget them all having Andrew Tate on and just kissing his ass, sucking up and telling him how cool he is. I simply haven't trusted Charlie in a long time.
i think people just like Charlie because he doesn't challenge anyone's beliefs or thoughts. Charlie wouldn't come out in shameless defense of trans people, he's a centrist and he does whatever lets him skate by unnoticed and still widely loved. the mans a national treasure online at this point, and yet he says nothing of any actual meaning or value.
at around 7:20 when you mentioned that transitioning after school is a point of privilege to you, you made me realize why I always feel slightly out of place in trans circles, even though i am trans. my brain didn't even think of this as a difference and i always felt weird about not feeling as strongly as other people about some situations, but now i can clearly see where these differences come from. thank you, that really helped me understand a bit more about other people's specific struggles
thanks for not showing the clip for one more reason: i just dont wanna see it as a trans woman and its already everywhere else. often time i go to creators like Ro to feel like im not going insane when i see stuff like this, and exposing myself to a shitty clip like that any more times than the one i need for context is enough to get me to click off the video some days.
It was an absolute jump scare when I saw it on Noah's video and I hadn't seen it before. I'm more desensitized to it now but a few years ago it would've emotionally rattled me.
Thank Jerry Trainer (aka God), I can finally eat dinner because I have the Ro Ramdin fresh hot sticky wet slimy sloppy upload. So glad that she pumps these out like a painful medical procedure.
i love watching your videos no matter the topic bcuz it always feels like talking to your few years older cousin in the other room at a family function; the topics can get depressing sometimes but the aesthetic of it all always keeps it so comforting
Not sure if this made international news or not but last week there were intensely transphobic protests in a bunch of major cities in Canada and I saw a few videos of kids who were pulled out of school to be there, screaming horrible hateful things and stomping on pride flags. It gave me the same feeling as that sneako video, it's so depressing and has shaken me. Thanks for making this vid, it helped vocalize a lot of what I've been feeling
Found a note in the fifth grade class last week that said, and I quote “ a man’s job is to work hard and be successful. That is why a school bus has 30 seats and a Bugatti only has 2”.
As much as I appreciate the comments saying "queer kids are just kids too", I do want to stress that when I was teaching middle school (in the deep south) it became very evident to me that most of these kid's bigotry wasn't based on anything except wanting to be cool and liked by the adults they looked up to. I'm a queer teacher and even the kids who held bigoted views treated me with respect because they knew I was going to treat them the same way. They didn't say bigoted things to their classmates anywhere near me because they knew that it would result in my disappointment and a genuine conversation about why they believed those things. When they said bigoted things behind my back, I had created enough of an empathetic and communicative classroom culture that my queer students felt empowered to defend themselves, and the cis/het kids who didn't hold bigoted views often came to their defence. I had a student a few years ago who had some bigoted ideas and leanings that he'd learned from both his family and the content creators that he watched. I'll call him Student A. He would often misgender one of my trans students, who I'll call Student B. Student B thankfully could hold his own, but since he knew that he had the support of both his parents and me, the misgendering would often lead to the two students getting into arguments. One day they got into a really big argument outside during free time, which I noticed and had to break up. I talked to Student A about what he had been saying and how he wasn't treating his fellow student with respect, and we left the conversation there (there's not much more I could do in the south unfortunately). The next day, Student B brought brownies in for the class and I let him pass them around before lunch. He brought enough for everyone and I didn't think anything of it. A few minutes later, student A asked to talk to me in the hall. He was absolutely shocked that Student B had given him a brownie, and immediately started telling me how guilty he felt for having been rude to him the previous day. He said (completely unprompted) that he needed to apologize for how he had been treating him and then went and did so. They didn't have any other issues for the rest of the year. I guess my point is that you're absolutely right to feel empathy for these kids. Queer kids are just kids, but kids who are bigots are just kids too, and even the slightest bit of support and compassion from a responsible adult can pull them out of the pipeline before they fall in too deep. It doesn't excuse their behavior or the people they hurt, but they can change and it's 100% on the adults in their life to take responsibility and try to help them be better people, and it's 100% on the adults in their life to create an environment where queer kids and ally students can feel empowered to defend themselves and each other.
I don't see Sneako's pikachu face as anything other than performative. It seemed to me he was loving the flattering obsequiousness and the kids saw it also and leaned into it. The only anxiety Sneako felt was the ad $$ he saw running away.
I think any reasonable person who saw that video, of Sneako and his fans interacting, would find it revolting and quite sad, something I also found it be. I was revolted and saddened by what I saw. But I was terrified by it. I am Jewish and that video to me genuinely scary. Sneako has pushed many disgusting and bigoted ideologies via his platform, one of those being antisemitism. Antisemitism has been rapid incline for some time and it is getting very scary out there. It is clear that this fan interaction is not going a wake up for Sneako and I despite his saying "we love everyone" to his fans I firmly think he found it all very amusing. He is someone that in my opinion should be allowed to have a platform. He should have been banned much early then he was from the many social media sites that have banned him. I am wishing for the safety for all us who are affected and harmed by words and actions of Sneako and those like him.
You are one of the best intersections of knowledge and comedic chops. You also do not over react to a lot of what you see 15 year old new anarchists on Twitter freaking out about. You are always calm and measured and you are a gift to this genre, truly the best to do it.
Kids are getting radicalized. Yesterday I was at an anti-SOGI counter protest in Canada and had a child that must have been ~9ish rip up my pride flag. Him and his brothers / mother called my group of queer activists ~parasites~. I’ve been doing activism for a long time and in the past few years seeing more hateful / Indoctrinated children It’s clear that they were just kids and they’re the product of their environment- but I’m so worried for the vulnerable kids of marginalized identities who are sharing a school with kids who think this behaviour is good.
it just further proves he’s a grimy little coward. i mean he clearly has strong dislike towards the groups that kid mentioned and doesn’t actually care if children are protected because that 12 year old is out here saying ugly words and looking at him for validation. it’s so weird that he only backtracks just because he’s talking to some kid. that kid has heard you say all of that before
There is a long standing trend of blaming children for things that are clearly the fault of adults in their lives, and it's always really bothered me. You see it a lot with child actors or really any public facing young people at all, like with the way disney channel actors were often blamed for things that were clearly the fault of their producers and of disney itself, or things that were simply normal healthy things for children to do. And while children obviously have a degree of accountability for the things they do (especially in a far more serious situation like this one) the blame should ALWAYS rest on the authority figures who have let those children down first. "Poor Sneako, imagine having fans like these"?? They didn't spring up out of nowhere to ruin his reputation, they are the direct result of everything harmful thing he has said and done and frankly he deserves a lot worse than being embarassed by a fan in public for that. Not just because of the way he has harmed his fans, but because of the way his fans will continue to hurt the people in their own lives.
I do feel empathy that these kids have fallen into this pipeline and are getting publicly dragged through the mud for the bigoted things they said, but my empathy runs out when I remember my own time in middle school. Trans and queer youth were constantly affronted with this kind of vitriol. Why is it that oppressed groups must be involuntarily included in oppressors violent bigotry to “learning and growing” arc?
not growing up trans, although i am now trans, but growing up gay and hearing the f slur in the halls of middle school, feeling alone and judged by kids the same age as the ones in that clip, feeling like i should be ashamed and like i had to pander to people who hated my gayness was terrible. i was eleven and saying the same things as you- they're so young, they'll grow out of it, they don't know any better and are just parroting what they learnt from others. but it did still devastate me in many ways! knowing i was trans though not out, surrounded by the politics of trans 'ideology' and trans sports in 2022 when i graduated high school, the stuff i heard made me feel like i needed to stay in the closet forever. the stuff my little brother in middle school would tell me about his trans friends being made fun of or harassed or excluded made me feel like i couldn't come out. it's hard, it's a hard topic. i don't know how to feel.
I love your videos because 90% of the time it's communities and creators I've never heard of and I love nothing more than getting all the details on drama that in no way crosses my radar otherwise.
Thank you Ro for showing the empathy I hoped to see. I’m so happy that the queer community faced with this clip of hatred has shown no malice towards the child. I hope he finds good role models soon. It breaks my heart when he asks about transgender women because you can see that look in his eyes seeking approval, it makes me so sad.
My favorite thing about these videos is that it feels like every video comes with a list of sleeper agent activation phrases, and Ro has to find a way to fit every single one of them within the vid.
Reminds me of when Nigel Farage was on some show just a few months after the Brexit referendum and a kid told him "my mummy says you hate foreigners" and Farage goes "ohhh nononono haha"
What sucks is my own siblings are his target demographic. Like CHILDREN ADORE him and they don't understand what they're saying, they're children. Im not even that much older than my siblings but the impact that sneako and others have had on kids is horrifying. Truing to hold a conversation with my siblings knowing full well they don't respect me for being queer and afab. Like they dont respect the people they're making fun of because they see them as jokes.
look no further than the recent crop of very hateful, very wealthy content creators to discover that something about the intersection of internet, capitalism, and hatred is severely broken. all the power to these kids though, many just like them had said similar things, and grown up to cringe severely about the behaviours they exhibited. however, for sneako i fear the worst is yet to come. he is perhaps beyond hope.
i love the videos you’ve been posting lately! love hearing your thoughts and opinions on stuff 💗 i’ve been off social media for a minute so it’s nice to see things through this format instead of coming across triggering stuff in the wild
Sneako needs to live up to his moniker and quietly fade into the shadows never to be seen or heard from again. Edit: NOW I KNOW WHERE MY BONE SPURS CAME FROM! They tried to tell me it was genetics but I knew better. 😂
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Sneako meets his oldest fans
lol good one. 😆
I think this is what actually made Sneako self-conscious: the hard proof his audience aren’t well-adjusted, sigma males
@@jestenia590haha frick women 🧒👶👦
Definitely true. No logical adult actually takes him seriously. That’s why it’s older people who make fun of him and basically babies who listen to Sneako. I don’t get how he doesn’t see that though
Ray william johnson
As much as I empathise with kids getting radicalised by Sneako, Tate, etc., I can’t help but fear for the queer kids in their school and having to share a space with people who are so open about hating them
I worry about the people around them when these boys become men. A lot of people like to think they'll grow out of it, or they'll get deradicalized when they get older and experience life a little more. I don't think so. How many kids did you know who were terrible to the people around them who didn't grow up to also be terrible adults later? Maybe some. But not most. He's helped them learn thought cycles you usually see in cults. It's very concerning for the future of public health.
I fear for the men they eventually have sex with, because they will most likely harm the guys they’re with due to horribly internalized homophobia.
I fear for the queer kids who hate people more vulnerable than them to 'fit in'. When shit hits the fan it ain't gonna be the 60+ teacher coming to your defence. They refuse to admit it's not the 80s anymore.
in addition to that, i worry about the women that will be mistreated, harassed, and assaulted by these boys and (eventual) men. part of the ideology is entitlement over women’s bodies, and that women are the inferior sex that was created to serve men. my own sister dated a guy like this, even thinking about him makes my blood boil. he kept his beliefs a secret and mislead her but i picked up on the dog whistles. this willful ignorance and deep seeded hatred of a significant group of other human beings scares me. the state of our country and culture is frightening (take florida’s legislature for example). algorithms and access to tech at an earlier age compounds this even further.
@@falconeshieldthat makes no sense
You know the worst part about this? Sneako's "I was the same way when I was their age." Is like quantifiably wrong. He's only a bit older than me and I've been on RUclips since I was way too young to be on RUclips so I know from experience how wrong he is. Sneako had a RUclips channel around their age. I SAW IT. He was definitely edgy, but more than that he was fairly eloquent and knowledgeable and thought provoking for his age. I remember a few years back, way before what he does now, he did an interview with a nonbinary RUclipsr where they talked about gender and sexuality and he wasn't fucking bell hooks but he approached the conversation with respect and was willing to learn. This new Sneako is definitely fucking disgusting, but worse it's disappointing.
he was talking about how shitty and imperialist the american govt is when he was their age 💀its %100 grift
@@finthetrashcanI really haven't landed on either side on the matter. Gun to my head I couldn't figure out if its a grift or if he was just like this the whole time
That's actually really surprising. It kinda baffles me when people can be like this and then jump on, as people say, a right wing "grift" seems like they just don't believe in anything except getting attention and money...
@@finthetrashcannah Fr it’s so disappointing he could’ve been a pretty cool RUclipsr if he didn’t become a piece of shit 😭😭
It feels like he had a "I want financial independence so I'm gonna hustle my way to it" moment where he used to have thoughts about egalitarianism that are now shelved for good because it would require a larger degree of self-sacrifice over self-service on his part. He was at a moral crossroads and just leaned into the side that was going to make him money, and you know, that's sad for him but also that we have a system that generally awards people being misanthropic and causing harm to other people.
If I were feeling uncharitable (and I always am), I’d point out the interesting irony of someone who likes to shout “groomer” at everyone pushing an agenda on his very young, exclusively male, fanbase that involves them performatively hating anyone who is not a cis man, while panting like puppies for his approval…
Yeah well I'm feeling uncharitable. He does all that. He is also a weeniehead.
Nah, u cooked with this comment I can’t even lie
Also him being a cuties fan
It's funny, the term groomer came from the 1970s when it was used against queer people. A woman coined it. Can't remember her name. But the fact that that term came back shows that boomers refuse to die and keep their hatred to themselves.
☺ aww shucks, thanks :) I lopped off the last two sentences because I didn't want to directly accuse him of wanting to diddle little boys... oops@@JScott-md6dv
I hate the "they're just kids" excuse. So are the queer kids they're bullying. These kids will "grow and change" while queer kids will have to deal with the trauma of living in a world hostile to them their entire lives
it's just a bad situation. they're victims who victimize other people. it's kinda morally grey. (except of course for the queer/poc/disabled kids who had no fault at all)
@@ErieRosewood These kids aren't victims, they're targets. They aren't personally hurting by being taught to be this hateful in anywhere close to the scope of the queer kids they will traumatize. They might not be *guilty* or had a choice because they simply lack the developed brains to understand what they're saying and believing, but that doesn't make them innocent victims. The fault of their behavior falls to the adults in their lives that aren't teaching them better values, but the actual problem is that a lot of adults condone this kind of behavior, only disagreeing with how explicit these kids are.
But think of the non queer kids! They can reproduce, make queer kids and chuck them out! /s
“Queer” kids won’t be traumatized, unless they are snowflakes.
@@AutismGaming489queer kids are snowflakes if their classmates and adults are talking about harming them and it affects them/traumatizes them?? These kids deserve a lot more kindness than you are offering.
Sneako is truly the cocomelon of mens rights activists
Jesus that’s funny
Man, you didn’t have to kill him 😂😂😂
The kids definitely look like they were trying to impress him. It’s sad that this is who they’ve picked up as a role model.
Also, being an adult in that situation is just so incredibly painful and awkward, because unless you're a super cool adult they already respect, they'll consider you lame and cringe for trying to discourage them from making comments or jokes that they "know" are just the funniest and truest things ever said, and you're just too old and cringe to get it.
as a black queer person i resent the way that folks-most commonly those who identify as liberal-always hyperfocus on giving ppl that perpetuate violence endless grace to the point that they forget to have equal amounts of empathy for the victims of that violence. i see that in this video; your acknowledgment of the fact that the childrens' blind regurgitation of sneako's rhetoric has real-life repercussions was only a footnote. it has big "everybody was edgy when they were 14, give them a break!" vibes and then the edginess in question was racism 😭 while that edgy 14 year old may grow out of their racism, their peers that had to deal with the fact that little johnny was an avid idubbbz watcher carry that trauma and then are told by society that they have to forgive the person that hurt them or even feel bad for them... it leaves you feeling very gaslit. the children in that sneako video WERE terrible for being misogynistic/homophobic/transphobic and they are also victims, those things are not mutually exclusive.
you put it perfectly. i want to print this out and frame it
you can be edgy in both directions. Honestly, i didn't even think conservatives really could be truly edgy tho. If you think about what the word is really supposed to represent, and conservatives are the party of tradition, stagnation. Don't let them have edgy. I didn't get suspended for practicing witchcraft in chapel just so these nerds can take that from us.
@banquetoftheleviathan1404 notice in my original comment i said "then the edginess in question was racism," my entire point is that ppl tend to treat young perpetrators of the -isms especially with more care than they do their young victims. that includes mincing words when discussing their bigotry i.e. calling racism/sexism/queerphobia "edgy." i have no attachment to the edgy label and even if i did, words can have different meanings depending on the context
i was sat here trying to find the right words to say exactly what you've just said so thank you. I was that queer kid in school and now I am a teacher doing my best to protect all the kids, including the queer kids, under my care and I see the same things. The 'edgy' borderline racist, homophobic kids get to grow out of it, forget and move on however the trauma sticks with those that they bullied.
It was very hard to sit here and watch a similar rhetoric be pushed. The kid from the sneako vid will most likely be just fine - i agree he is being groomed and pushed down a pipeline. it sucks and those kids need protection, however people have a right to feel angry and overall I'm more worried about the queer kids he may be interacting with at school.
Preach
“They were kidding and also it’s ‘YOUR’ fault.”
Ok buddy
Is there anything more indicative of a panicked desire to avoid accountability than multiple, conflicting excuses?
Yeah like which one is it
Is this a joke
Or is it a serious thing or what
Progressives are strong but also weak at the same time. Where did I hear that rhetoric 1940s Germany before?
I have a 12 year old cousin that im very close with and I worry all the time that when he gets online he's gonna fall down this pipeline. the thing is, 12 year olds don't wanna listen to *anybody* unless they (or their friends) found some guy online that they think is funny or makes entertaining videos (for people my age it was usually idubbbz or pewdiepie, tobuscus, shane dawson, filthy frank etc etc). you can see in that clip how much these kids want his approval, it's the exact same look my little brother gave our older brother when he cussed around him to be funny for the first time. kids that age copy the people they think are cool and idk. you can't tell them anything they just have to come around on it and unlearn it sometimes, which is scary.
i hope not, but i don't remember being like that when i was 12 (a few years ago), so i'd like to think that doesn't happen to everyone (although, i might either be misremembering or just in the vast minority).
i think this kind of thing can be prevented only with early teaching of the value of open mindedness- which nearly nobody is imbued with
@@gabeminson absolutely!!
@@niicespiice I wasn't either, but I saw my brother go through it as well as a bunch of my peers, so I figure it's at least semi prevalent? I have hope but it's a difficult thing to have to watch
Tell them anyways. Tell them each and every time. So that when they do have that moment of clarity, they'll remember your words, your stance and it will make it easier for them to decide what's right and what simply is not.
Bigotry doesn't always win and that's beautiful ❤️
Actually Sneako is 180° removed from his original form. He was actually a critical thinker in the beginning of his quest for social media relevance and produced thoughtful and mostly open minded videos where he was questioning real societal ills but he got very little traction. After struggling to break out for years he came across the exploding man-o-sphere and saw the potential and started to adopt those talking points. As he started to blow up he got stuck in a loop which required him to say and believe worse and worse stuff in exchange for more and more clicks. It's crazy, look it up.
This feels like such a common thing at this point. Candace Owens and Jesse Singal were both actually originally trying to attach themselves to more leftist stuff online. The moment they started publicly venting some frustration with not getting traction, the people there to tell them they were actually brilliant and underappreciated all happened to be a particular sort of person. I don't know if they can just smell blood in the water or what.
quite literally sounds like he got indoctrinated into a cult lol
@@Khak1 they don't call it the "alt-right pipeline" for nothing. That's for damn sure
@@Khak1 he indoctrinated himself
He’s a poser
Approaching this from the perspective of a trans person who has operated in the public school system in a post-Andrew Tate world (fs in the chat), I feel terrible for these kids, and I feel so much worse for the girls and queer kids who have to pay the price for this behavior. As much as these kids are too young to have been subjected to such harmful content, the people around them who have to overhear these things about themselves are too young to feel that sense of fear.
💐my respects but also flowers for you.
hes crazy for saying its the rainbow emoji's fault that the kids are transphobic lol
What are you talking about, the rainbow emoji beat me up once and took my lunch money. It's not the hero you think it is!
@@mikedrop4421I'm glad that happened to you. 😈🏳️🌈
@@mikedrop4421I remember that! It was crazy, it was picked up by this terrible bus that said down with ci
Talk about blaming the victim! Why aren't the right-wing Christian kids ever held accountable for radicalizing the left-wing atheist kids in a similar manner, mmm?
No, he's not crazy - he's blaming the victim. He's acting like the mere existence of LGBT people justifies hating them. It's a tried and true argument from people just like him.
my heart shatters for the little girls those boys go to school with. they’re going to hear some of the most vile, sexist stuff at such a young age from their classmates. i can’t imagine how dehumanizing and scary it must be for them.
I agree, I feel so bad for little girls growing up with the internet
At Christmas last year my seven year old cousin called me a dirty illegal when I tagged him during our game of freeze tag. Stuff like this is scary. I don’t see him outside of Christmas, otherwise I’d try to help him. I sat him down and explained to him why that was wrong, and he told me it’s what his grandpa and the tv say. So scary… even scarier that our entire family consists of immigrants….
I'm from a dirt poor family with intergenerational trauma + chronic illness & I'm the only one on disability (after being forced from my dream job) who doesn't think all other people on disability are "lazy liars". It's genuinely heartbreaking hearing my disabled family members villainize vulnerable groups we are or should be in solidarity with.
My safe phrase is "I know who's taking food from my mouth, & it's not ____ [other disabled folks, LGBTQ+, refugees, striking workers, whoever they're being bigoted towards that moment]." But it's so inadequate.
The amount of damage rightwing rhetoric has done is untold + bottomless.
I was literally almost murdered by kids like this when I was in school. They can have empathy once their views have changed, until then they are the same kids who stomped my head until I was hospitalized. I’m disappointed in the dismissal of how deeply vile these children are, and disappointed that you will give a pass to monsters because of how they became monsters without first demanding that they stop being monsters.
Children's words of hate are arguably the worst because if a "gutsy", rude 12 yo walks up to me with that nonsense, literally what am I supposed to do? I can't even argue with em or call the authorities for being harrassed and hate crime'd lol All I can do is stare in comfusion. That's all who isn't either their parent or their idol can do.
Very sickening tbh.
At that point, weaponize ageism against them. "Yeah? Well after this you're going to have to get up and go to school again tomorrow, and I'm going to work from home and fuck my partner." "Cool, so did you get all your homework done? No Sneako til you've finished all your homework and your chores, Timmy." Sometimes, kids learn best by fucking around and then finding out.
I guarantee that so many people would slap the shit out of bigoted kids like this if it was legal. It's not thank god cause it would open the doors for a lot more child abuse but these kids are also abusive and hopefully they unlearn that and become descent adults.
At some point the parents are at fault too. Kids can still "rebel" by being "edgy" from caring parents that try to teach them respect and kindness, but that is not the majority of what is happening. There is a level of emotional neglect that allows this behavior to become a problem, that and many parents are likely reinforcing the bigotry. My brother grew up to be a raging misogynist because my parents never corrected him or talked to him about the sexist things he said and always chalked it up to "he is just joking." They look back on that now and regret it, because now it is negatively affecting his life and they finally understand that it also affected my life as well.
Good points. I'm sorry that you were hurt but I'm glad they finally validated your experiences.
@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 It was really helpful to get that validation and to see growth in them. Thank you for your kind words💜
Yep! I had to be ultra-secretive about some of the edgy stuff I was into or that I believed at that age because I knew my parents would've put the kibosh on it *immediately,* and I get the impression that there are too many kids who aren't having to work that hard. I really worry about the kids who are going down Internet rabbit holes that their parents most definitely do not understand and therefore cannot properly supervise or offer advice or guidelines about.
He was probably more surprised that the kids forgot they were supposed to dogwhistle.
The fact his almost immediate commentary is "what have I done" followed by a tweet where he shoves the blame on the nebulous gays is true madness. Like real, cult levels of cognitive dissonance.
My internalized biphobia as a kid led me to parroting the homophobic bullshit that went around in school. Kids that age 100% have no idea what anything means and are just doing things to be validated. Let's hope that they grow more and more progressive each passing year like I did.
What worries me is that so many of these kinds of kids - these young kids radicalized by alt-right influencers, other internet personalities, and the bigoted adults in their lives - just grow up to be close-minded, cruel adults who treat people just as horribly as they did when they were younger. They won't grow without their own concerted effort to be better.
i honestly feel a serious level of sympathy for these kids - i nearly fell victim to this same pipeline when i was their age thanks to carlgon benjamin and it took a lot of work to pull myself out. i just hope these kids manage to get out of reactionary ideology.
Same, as a victim of the pipeline i hope they escape cuz omg
I'm glad y'all made it out and I also hope they can do it too. ❣️
I feel sympathy for the queer kids they will severely harm in the process of them becoming the bare minimum of decent people. This will be a phase in their lives they *might* grow to regret and is going to take the same amount of deprogramming that is basically the same as the mandatory deprogramming every queer person had to do in their own discovery and figuring out how to even exist in the world. But the queer kids will also have the added trauma and deep scars of exclusion and persecution of their peers and society at large that isn't just solved with a few years of personal development where you come out a better person. It's the kind of thing that forces queer kids back into the closet with only self-harm and suicidal ideation to keep them company, and saying it's going to take a lifelong therapy to manage it is still an understatement.
I was a little jerk at 12 just because I was bitter and angry about being bullied and excluded by my peers, and had already been exposed to what we'd consider *mildly* edgy and spicy humor and hot takes today.
I feel more sympathy for the other kids they are going to traumatize.
I feel bad for these kids. I feel bad for their classmates. But I'm kinda glad this happened.
If anything, it is proof that Sneako is embarrassed by these beliefs, cause if he wasn't he'd give the kids the validation they seek in public. He'd encourage them. And then he'd go online and talk about how proud he is of those kids.
But between him back-pedaling when confronted with his own words, him brushing it off as a joke, and him trying to push the blame onto others, it shows that he's not really proud of himself.
And I'm being optimistic here, but maybe this is the first step to deradicalization. If there is any humanity left in him, then maybe he'd be like "that was embarrassing, maybe I sould dial back."
I don't think he believes in what he does at all, he just played on the grift and got hit with the fact that his actions impact the REAL WORLD.
I don't think he'd want to accept any accountability, say that he's been a negative influence, or anything like that unless he thought he could use it as a new grift. Which I don't see him doing.
He might have been saying "no we love everyone" to the kids at the time... But then he basically immediately completely undoes that by his statement afterwards. Boys will be boys. It's actually everyone else's fault. Blah blah blah.
@@uniquenewyork3325 Like all of manosphere grifters he believes his own words, he just thinks that if he twists the narrative enough to be about "forced agendas" his points become justified. He's smart enough that he rationalized himself into thinking that bigotry has real intellectual merit if you just add enough layers of justification on top. Sometimes all intelligence does for a person is make their mental gymnastics more impressive. He has that, he just doesn't have the self-awareness or willingness to examine his actual core beliefs(and doesn't possess that 1 particular mental skill to do so) to reach a conclusion that he's wrong. When what he is saying IMPLICITLY gets picked up by kids who don't have his ability to twist the ideas into sounding nicer and more civilized, they will explicitly say his quiet parts out loud, and I don't think he knew that this is what he's been saying all along. And he still might decide that the kids who watch him every second and hang on his every word just misunderstood everything 180 degrees.
@gwen9939 yeah it seems like this type of person can't just admit that "the idea of trans/gay/gender equality makes me feel yucky, and I don't want to be involved in anything to do with those issues."
Instead it has to be "women do this terrible thing to men and think they're so special, so I don't like them because they are stupid and self absorbed and not even that hot anyway," or "trans/gay people are a danger to our children! We have to get rid of them for the children! It's certainly not that I want LGBT people to go away or become closeted for my own personal comfort."
The crazy thing is that Sneako was actually super thoughtful and actually intelligent at 12. He posted videos talking about how wicked American foreign policy was and the disasters it’s caused. He’s degenerated as he aged
he didn't degenerate, he actually just realized that holding reactionary opinions gets more attention and money than trying to make reasonable, informed, intelligent content. its definitely worked for him. just really embarrassing and he knows exactly what he's doing. he's not stupid, he's just a grifter
@@10millioncrows very true
Gaussian blurred form of masculinity goes so hard. Thank you Ro
Hunting deer with a band saw 😩🤌
As a girl in middle school i mean the boys were awful with their "jokes". My age, middle school was when idubbbz saying the n word was popular and all that edgy stuff. It really gave this boys an armour to sit behind. They could make fun of their percieved out-group and bully people by making them outsiders through quoting these kinds of memes and content at people. It was terrible and when confronted they would always be like "its just a video online/ its just a joke/ its just a meme", and gett off scot free
That video to me is one of the peak examples of "fuck around and find out." It's honestly annoying to see Sneako double-down on being a reactionary coward afterwards, despite the video showing him to be pretty clearly shocked and unnerved by what he was hearing the kids around him say.
How can someone clearly have a level of self-awareness to see and notice the consequences of their actions, yet be so completely spineless as to not do a single moment of self-reflection or introspection afterwards?
He's a grifter and he's uncomfortable witnessing the impact of his actions but if he exposes that, he'll ruin the facade he made up so he just keeps lying to keep making money
i can not believe sneako tried to turn it on “snowflakes” or whatever for kids chanting kill the gays. that’s like a different level of victim blaming
and this is why idubbbz changed. but at least w him he didnt actually hold these insane beliefs and he understood some of his fans could
Maybe people should say: "if your fans are saying these kinds of things, you gotta re-evaluate yourself"
As though this isn't literally his goal.
Stop pretending these people are just making mistakes. THE MAN IS LITERALLY A NEONAZI, HE WANTS THIS RESULT
@@Jane-oz7pp the man is a grifter, but it has the same end result
@@Jane-oz7ppyeah, but my point is that, instead of shaming the kids, the people who are retweeting this video should shame the slimy dude.
Funny thing is, sneako was actually *almost* based when he was their age. He criticised American imperialism and shit while playing cod, he had some actual interesting opinions, doubly so when you consider his age at the time
I'm still waiting for Cr1tikal to do an update on this situation. He platformed Sneako and basically forgave him for the drama between the two of them, while not really even addressing this side of things. But then, he also defended Dillon Danis harrassing Nina Agdal and threatening to release revenge porn of her, basically just calling it regular fight drama. Charlie's often got a good viewpoint on things, but he's been very wrong a few times recently and it sucks to see.
IMO Charlie has always been a pretty run of the mill centrist rich RUclips boy who’s gotten popular off of making p rudimentary moral beliefs, such as “pedophilia is bad” or “don’t assult people”, seem like insanely hot takes when really they’re the opinions of the majority. However, as soon as a situation is more complex or requires him to step outside himself, such as with Idubbz’s apology, he physically can’t and ends up spewing a lot of gamer gate-esque rhetoric
@@99kills53 As a society we should move past the point where we care about what Charlie thinks. He's a "got in at the ground floor" youtuber who no one would've consciously decided needed to be added to the internet if he hadn't been there already. He's at least not as bad as Asmongold who's claim to fame is the exact same, but neither should be listened to for anything that has any kind of ties to social justice.
i haven't watched Charlie in so many years, but i used to religiously watch the Official Podcast Charlie, Kia, Andrew, and Jackson hosted. now, Kia is famous for being the worst one in that outfit, but like i don't forget them all having Andrew Tate on and just kissing his ass, sucking up and telling him how cool he is. I simply haven't trusted Charlie in a long time.
i think people just like Charlie because he doesn't challenge anyone's beliefs or thoughts. Charlie wouldn't come out in shameless defense of trans people, he's a centrist and he does whatever lets him skate by unnoticed and still widely loved. the mans a national treasure online at this point, and yet he says nothing of any actual meaning or value.
Fun fact: he went to my college in the film program, and nobody liked him and he dropped out very quickly to continue doing this lmao
at around 7:20 when you mentioned that transitioning after school is a point of privilege to you, you made me realize why I always feel slightly out of place in trans circles, even though i am trans. my brain didn't even think of this as a difference and i always felt weird about not feeling as strongly as other people about some situations, but now i can clearly see where these differences come from. thank you, that really helped me understand a bit more about other people's specific struggles
Ro's serving Velma and she came to unmask the monster telling boys that women are scary (Its the guy who made an SA threat)
This is the first time I’ve ever heard of Sneako. At least it’s from Ro.
how.
i envy you
You had it much better than the rest of us
Oh, you sweet summer child.
You’re so lucky. I wish I’d never heard of Sneako
@@bunketswe used to be moots on twitter, seeing a comment from you felt like a jumpscare lol
i hate that the words "transphobes" and "trans folks" sound so similar when said quickly
Well well well... if it isn't the consequences of my own actions.
that line about warping space time to be at the capitol at age 12 was amazing
thanks for not showing the clip for one more reason: i just dont wanna see it as a trans woman and its already everywhere else. often time i go to creators like Ro to feel like im not going insane when i see stuff like this, and exposing myself to a shitty clip like that any more times than the one i need for context is enough to get me to click off the video some days.
It was an absolute jump scare when I saw it on Noah's video and I hadn't seen it before. I'm more desensitized to it now but a few years ago it would've emotionally rattled me.
Ro & Kuncan Dastner are particularly good at talking about upsetting clips without the clips; I appreciate tf out of them for it.
@@gwen9939not all kids are gay if they want a real girl let them
Thank Jerry Trainer (aka God), I can finally eat dinner because I have the Ro Ramdin fresh hot sticky wet slimy sloppy upload. So glad that she pumps these out like a painful medical procedure.
I hated reading that, thank you
You know youre failing at even dog whistling when middle schoolers have a clear understanding of your messaging.
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many are saying that ro ramdin has uploaded
i love watching your videos no matter the topic bcuz it always feels like talking to your few years older cousin in the other room at a family function; the topics can get depressing sometimes but the aesthetic of it all always keeps it so comforting
had surgery to remove bone spurs two years ago. now i need another, thank you glorious Ro
Not sure if this made international news or not but last week there were intensely transphobic protests in a bunch of major cities in Canada and I saw a few videos of kids who were pulled out of school to be there, screaming horrible hateful things and stomping on pride flags. It gave me the same feeling as that sneako video, it's so depressing and has shaken me. Thanks for making this vid, it helped vocalize a lot of what I've been feeling
i sure hope those kids can grow out of this crap. But so long as ghouls like sneako are still around, that hope is very, very slim.
Found a note in the fifth grade class last week that said, and I quote “ a man’s job is to work hard and be successful. That is why a school bus has 30 seats and a Bugatti only has 2”.
As much as I appreciate the comments saying "queer kids are just kids too", I do want to stress that when I was teaching middle school (in the deep south) it became very evident to me that most of these kid's bigotry wasn't based on anything except wanting to be cool and liked by the adults they looked up to. I'm a queer teacher and even the kids who held bigoted views treated me with respect because they knew I was going to treat them the same way. They didn't say bigoted things to their classmates anywhere near me because they knew that it would result in my disappointment and a genuine conversation about why they believed those things. When they said bigoted things behind my back, I had created enough of an empathetic and communicative classroom culture that my queer students felt empowered to defend themselves, and the cis/het kids who didn't hold bigoted views often came to their defence.
I had a student a few years ago who had some bigoted ideas and leanings that he'd learned from both his family and the content creators that he watched. I'll call him Student A. He would often misgender one of my trans students, who I'll call Student B. Student B thankfully could hold his own, but since he knew that he had the support of both his parents and me, the misgendering would often lead to the two students getting into arguments. One day they got into a really big argument outside during free time, which I noticed and had to break up. I talked to Student A about what he had been saying and how he wasn't treating his fellow student with respect, and we left the conversation there (there's not much more I could do in the south unfortunately). The next day, Student B brought brownies in for the class and I let him pass them around before lunch. He brought enough for everyone and I didn't think anything of it. A few minutes later, student A asked to talk to me in the hall. He was absolutely shocked that Student B had given him a brownie, and immediately started telling me how guilty he felt for having been rude to him the previous day. He said (completely unprompted) that he needed to apologize for how he had been treating him and then went and did so. They didn't have any other issues for the rest of the year.
I guess my point is that you're absolutely right to feel empathy for these kids. Queer kids are just kids, but kids who are bigots are just kids too, and even the slightest bit of support and compassion from a responsible adult can pull them out of the pipeline before they fall in too deep. It doesn't excuse their behavior or the people they hurt, but they can change and it's 100% on the adults in their life to take responsibility and try to help them be better people, and it's 100% on the adults in their life to create an environment where queer kids and ally students can feel empowered to defend themselves and each other.
Mum's tablet to Neonazi Rally pipeline just droped.
I don't see Sneako's pikachu face as anything other than performative. It seemed to me he was loving the flattering obsequiousness and the kids saw it also and leaned into it. The only anxiety Sneako felt was the ad $$ he saw running away.
he was actually better when he was 12, he was playing call of duty talking about the USA's involvement in the middle east. no joke
that response is pathetic and unsurprising. This really isn't something he can plausibly deny to any normal person.
yes Ro roasting sneako is going to feed me for MONTHS
I unironically feel sneako wasn’t horrible at 15
He also had an open talk about sexuality and gender at one point. Sad that he became a gifter cause he could have been a better influence otherwise.
I think any reasonable person who saw that video, of Sneako and his fans interacting, would find it revolting and quite sad, something I also found it be. I was revolted and saddened by what I saw. But I was terrified by it. I am Jewish and that video to me genuinely scary. Sneako has pushed many disgusting and bigoted ideologies via his platform, one of those being antisemitism.
Antisemitism has been rapid incline for some time and it is getting very scary out there.
It is clear that this fan interaction is not going a wake up for Sneako and I despite his saying "we love everyone" to his fans I firmly think he found it all very amusing. He is someone that in my opinion should be allowed to have a platform. He should have been banned much early then he was from the many social media sites that have banned him.
I am wishing for the safety for all us who are affected and harmed by words and actions of Sneako and those like him.
i appreciate the sympathy towards these kids. this was def one of the more productive videos on this topic. great video 😀
As a queer and autistic girl in high school, it is terrifying to know how much some of my peers despise me for simply existing
You are one of the best intersections of knowledge and comedic chops. You also do not over react to a lot of what you see 15 year old new anarchists on Twitter freaking out about. You are always calm and measured and you are a gift to this genre, truly the best to do it.
Kids are getting radicalized. Yesterday I was at an anti-SOGI counter protest in Canada and had a child that must have been ~9ish rip up my pride flag. Him and his brothers / mother called my group of queer activists ~parasites~. I’ve been doing activism for a long time and in the past few years seeing more hateful / Indoctrinated children
It’s clear that they were just kids and they’re the product of their environment- but I’m so worried for the vulnerable kids of marginalized identities who are sharing a school with kids who think this behaviour is good.
it just further proves he’s a grimy little coward. i mean he clearly has strong dislike towards the groups that kid mentioned and doesn’t actually care if children are protected because that 12 year old is out here saying ugly words and looking at him for validation. it’s so weird that he only backtracks just because he’s talking to some kid. that kid has heard you say all of that before
oldest and kindest sneako fan:
oh no now i've got bone spurs 😔
There is a long standing trend of blaming children for things that are clearly the fault of adults in their lives, and it's always really bothered me. You see it a lot with child actors or really any public facing young people at all, like with the way disney channel actors were often blamed for things that were clearly the fault of their producers and of disney itself, or things that were simply normal healthy things for children to do. And while children obviously have a degree of accountability for the things they do (especially in a far more serious situation like this one) the blame should ALWAYS rest on the authority figures who have let those children down first. "Poor Sneako, imagine having fans like these"?? They didn't spring up out of nowhere to ruin his reputation, they are the direct result of everything harmful thing he has said and done and frankly he deserves a lot worse than being embarassed by a fan in public for that. Not just because of the way he has harmed his fans, but because of the way his fans will continue to hurt the people in their own lives.
that clip really makes me nervous for what these types of boys will start doing to women when they get older and deeper into the pipeline.
I love watching ro while high
me rn
@@sarahconnors8909 twiiin 😭
Sneako helpfully explains that Ron desanitation saw a rainbow flag once and he was so scared he had no choice not to join the gestapo. I love history
I do feel empathy that these kids have fallen into this pipeline and are getting publicly dragged through the mud for the bigoted things they said, but my empathy runs out when I remember my own time in middle school. Trans and queer youth were constantly affronted with this kind of vitriol. Why is it that oppressed groups must be involuntarily included in oppressors violent bigotry to “learning and growing” arc?
love your velma cosplay today!
not growing up trans, although i am now trans, but growing up gay and hearing the f slur in the halls of middle school, feeling alone and judged by kids the same age as the ones in that clip, feeling like i should be ashamed and like i had to pander to people who hated my gayness was terrible. i was eleven and saying the same things as you- they're so young, they'll grow out of it, they don't know any better and are just parroting what they learnt from others. but it did still devastate me in many ways! knowing i was trans though not out, surrounded by the politics of trans 'ideology' and trans sports in 2022 when i graduated high school, the stuff i heard made me feel like i needed to stay in the closet forever. the stuff my little brother in middle school would tell me about his trans friends being made fun of or harassed or excluded made me feel like i couldn't come out. it's hard, it's a hard topic. i don't know how to feel.
sneako is a rat name
I love your videos because 90% of the time it's communities and creators I've never heard of and I love nothing more than getting all the details on drama that in no way crosses my radar otherwise.
Thank you Ro for showing the empathy I hoped to see. I’m so happy that the queer community faced with this clip of hatred has shown no malice towards the child. I hope he finds good role models soon. It breaks my heart when he asks about transgender women because you can see that look in his eyes seeking approval, it makes me so sad.
I hope this one gets reuploaded too so I have a reason to rewatch it over and over
Don’t worry Sneako will be handled by September 21st, 2023, 2:30pm eastern standard time!!😆😆
Oddly specific, and exciting….?
Do you remember?
only 14 more hours!
Please let me in on this intel
The Sneakening
How does this lady pump good videos out so fast???????? How?
Always ready to Ro rampage but never to deal with the Ro ramifications
thank you for this video
My favorite thing about these videos is that it feels like every video comes with a list of sleeper agent activation phrases, and Ro has to find a way to fit every single one of them within the vid.
I LOVE sowing, but man, do I ever hate reaping!!!!! 🤬🤬
LITERALLY
i love how much you look like velma in that sweater, grab some glasses n it’s cosplay
We literally know what Sneako was like when he was 12, for the record. He wasn't like this.
ur eye shadow is sooo pretty
holy shit the emergency ro ramdin drop
Reminds me of when Nigel Farage was on some show just a few months after the Brexit referendum and a kid told him "my mummy says you hate foreigners" and Farage goes "ohhh nononono haha"
That kid sounds amazing tbh
thank u ro ramdin
Sneako looked the consequences of his own actions in the face and then noped the fuck out of there
holy moly Titanfall 2 in the background i love this channel
ironically, sneako has videos circulating from when he was a tween. his takes were deadass better then.
He doesn't look shocked by those kids' actions, he's flabbergasted and elated with it .. He's gooning and baiting with that sh!t up🤣🤣🤣🤣
What sucks is my own siblings are his target demographic. Like CHILDREN ADORE him and they don't understand what they're saying, they're children. Im not even that much older than my siblings but the impact that sneako and others have had on kids is horrifying. Truing to hold a conversation with my siblings knowing full well they don't respect me for being queer and afab. Like they dont respect the people they're making fun of because they see them as jokes.
Fantastic video as usual! I also spotted the Titanfall 2 menu during the Editing Rose cameo 👀curious which Titan you main
i love the orange/blue combo!
Great analysis! Thank you!
look no further than the recent crop of very hateful, very wealthy content creators to discover that something about the intersection of internet, capitalism, and hatred is severely broken. all the power to these kids though, many just like them had said similar things, and grown up to cringe severely about the behaviours they exhibited. however, for sneako i fear the worst is yet to come. he is perhaps beyond hope.
every one of this persons videos I stumble on are so good and cozy
Jokes on you Ro, I already have bone spurs 😎
i love the videos you’ve been posting lately! love hearing your thoughts and opinions on stuff 💗 i’ve been off social media for a minute so it’s nice to see things through this format instead of coming across triggering stuff in the wild
good video. your ending song is a Cbat type beat
Sneako needs to live up to his moniker and quietly fade into the shadows never to be seen or heard from again.
Edit: NOW I KNOW WHERE MY BONE SPURS CAME FROM! They tried to tell me it was genetics but I knew better. 😂
0/10, not sneaky enough