@@MyNameDolanyeah he’s the only one I’m getting my gaming news from nowadays. Most RUclipsrs are becoming obnoxious in their takes aimed on triggering emotional reactions to “drive engagement”.
I just don't understand why Sony would spend so much money developing such a great piece of hardware and yet not learn their lesson from PSVR1 and not have any tentpole games for it.
It has tentpole games. Just not many people know about them sadly. Gt7, resident evil 4 and 8, horizon, synapse, red matter 1 and 2 and more. There is also aliens VR and behemoth coming out later this year.
@joefawley9264 The only real game I'd consider tentpole would be horizon and maybe GT7. I would imagine Sony had to know they would need REALLY compelling software to get more casual gamers to purchase a $500 accessory. I would've also thought they would've learned this lesson already with PSVR1.
@@phillippinoFLASH but the other problem is, we don't even know what tentpole games Sony has for us for the PS5 let alone VR. Personally, I thought behemoth was the best game shown at the state of play.
@@phillippinoFLASH realistically, I'm not sure what game other than Gran Theft Auto would help move more units. We had Skyrim, an exclusive Ironman game and others on psvr1 and I'm not sure it helped much.
@@terminusaquo1980 There's really not. The only other alternative out there is the Quest 3, which has slightly better specs and its own library of games. Remains to be seen how well the adapter performs. Other than that? There's the Valve Index, which has WAY worse screens and costs as much as a PS5 + PSVR2 and uses outside tracking, so you need to set up the trackers somewhere around your house. Anything from HTC has similar problems. And that's basically it, unless you're willing to spend thousands of dollars for the headset.
@@terminusaquo1980 They have better options like pairing the Quest 3 to a PC. The only two advantages the PSVR2 has over Q3 'when' paired with a PC are it's deeper blacks & richer vibrant colours. PSVR2 to pc connectivity strips down so much of the PSVR2's features.
@@nirast2561 Slightly better specs? I have both Q3 & PSVR2, and the formers sweet spot is FAR wider, Pancake clarity is clearer/sharper, it's a lot more comfortable, it's wireless, has zero motion blur(PSVR2 uses a high persistence blur OLED display...), there's no mura or god rays, minimal glare, ring-less controllers, mixed reality, colour pass through, built in audio speakers, it's super slim and sleek, and it has an amazing eco system, store front, that goes beyond just VR gaming. The Quest 3 + PC feels like it's 1-2 generations ahead of the PSVR2. The latter is a bulky cumbersome mess that feels like you're wearing a medieval torture device. I loved Resident Evil 8 VIllage VR, and the first half of RE4 VR, but 8 has already been modded for PC VR, and I'm sure the latter will get the same treatment. On the flip side, PSVR2 has deeper blacks & richer/vibrant colours, but all of it's other features including haptics, head haptics, adaptive triggers, along with eye tracking & FR have all been disabed on PC.
@@nirast2561 Honestly the quest 2 and 3 are the only options PC currently needs. The quest 2 still holds up especially for the price and the quest 3 does everything the psvr2 does but better and still cheaper. Both are also wireless.
Thank you, Ryan, for your integrity on NOT speaking about every rumor and "leak" and including it into NEWS!! I wished other "content creators" had that sense of responsibility.
Look at Nintendo, they have successful characters/mascots like Mario & Zelda that always come to the next gen systems and people want to play the new experiences. Sony made a mistake not bringing their mascots to VR2. Astro, Sackboy, Kratos, Nathan Drake etc could have come, even in shorter experiences and PS5 owners might have bought into it.
I guarantee you that those games wouldn't meet sales expectations. A PS5 is already expensive, and you have a growing number of people saying that they aren't ever buying a PS5 because of low number of games/they just don't like Sony/they are cheap. You really want to compound all of these problems by locking games behind a $500 accessory? It's just not smart.
We did get that, it's called horizon: call of the mountain. You know, the IP that guerilla games is currently focusing on and making. Those ip's you mentioned are dead & have been for a long time. We got those spinoffs on the vita. Go play the vita.
And the report has an ad for Quest 3 at its end. It suggests that Quest 3's 2 true exclusives, and suggests a bunch of multi-plats also available, or coming to PSVR2 (and arguably superior PSVR2 versions at that). This "PSVR2 is dead" rhetoric needs to go away.
Sony dropping the price $200 is confirmation that they're blowing out their inventory and are abandoning the platform. Sony are tightwads. They'd never give such a huge discount for any other reason.
First of all, I absolutely HATE IT when people have to tell people how they should react. Any jackhole that puts "you" and "should" in their titles in any order there are never to be worth a read at all. Same goes to everyone on RUclips that does this with their video titles. Second, it really is unfortunate that such a impressive headset is basically going the way of the Vita with how much Sony is basically giving up on the thing. I mean it was too be expected with how expensive it is compared to its predecessor but at the same time it is something that should've been seen coming by Sony themselves.
Yeah, when you launch hardware that's more expensive than a console with almost no marketing and no clear commitment to supporting it long-term, you really can't be surprised if people don't rush to pick it up. It's such a shame. The really unfortunate thing is, if you look back at the Vita now, it was actually fairly well supported. Sony kept manufacturing it for 9 years, and published/developed over 30 games for it, including major franchises like God of War, Uncharted, Killzone, Resistance, Wipeout, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, and Little Big Planet. If PSVR 2 had a third of that support, Sony would've sold millions more of them guaranteed.
@@GreyMatterShadesPS VR2 already have 1/3 of that support in only 1.5 year if you count 2nd party titles such as Resident Evil 8-4 directly funded by Sony
I am much more of an XBOX platform guy (game pass ultimate, blah blah) but dang I would put you S tier with just responsible and nice game people whatever in the industry. Thank you for doing what you do
I LOVE MY VR2 is amazing and the hardware is just minblowing, dont take this kind of things very sirious if you are about to buy one, you will not regret it
People who love VR really love it, but they represent such a small percentage of gamers it's not overly profitable especially in the case of PSVR2 where there are relatively few games.
@@TheBigTone100if this person is having a blast with their PSVR, then it’s definitely not a lost cause. If it keeps them playing for years to come, then it’s worth it (it’s not valuable to everyone though)
The PSVR2 is great tech, but at $599 it’s too expensive. If it were backwards compatible it would be an easier sell, or if it were half the price it would be a lot more popular. Gran Turismo, Resident Evil, and hidden gems aren’t enough for it to compete effectively against Meta Quest.
Silliest argument ever. Price of one device≠the other. It is a high end VR headset. It is incredibly cheap for its features. One day you might find out...😊it's amazing!
@@TheVRResistanceStop being a fan boy. Psvr2 literally can not be used without a ps5 (already expensive), still can't be used on pc, and can't even run psvr1 games. Nobody with a functioning brain would think that's a good product to invest in.
@@TheVRResistance The average consumer cannot afford to buy a ps5+vr headset in the economic climate that we have today, and to even want to be motivated to spend such a large amount, you then first want to try the tech. Something that is very difficult to be able to do as few people have these VR glasses and in many countries game shops have closed down.
PSVR2 is AWESOME! Me and my brother got one at launch and we still hop in at least once a week, (less in hot weather) with Walkabout or the latest new co-op VR game. I totally agree with Mystic. The media loves to rag on VR2 but the reason VR2 isn't selling gangbusters is less to do with PlayStation and more to do with VR. Sure, things do limit it. Wite etc. For one. Meta has 7 billion potential users compared to PS5's 60m. That and, well. It's a PHYSICAL activity. Very tiring. Kids love VR. Adults? After work? Oof. That, admittedly, is an event sorta thing. Like a launch of a new single player game on a free weekend. I love a good single player campaign VR (Horizon, Saints & Sinners, Sybapse) or a drop in drop out (Beat Saner, Demeo, Creed, Pavlov) but it will NEVER replace a couch and a controller with no exhaustion or slight dizziness. That doesn't mean its not FUN or worthwhile. I think Sony and 3rd parties will absolutely support this next gen piece of VR kit. The tech is top of class and far cheaper for PS5 OWNERS then a PC where often a similar spec like Index is $1000+ and requires separate purchase for controllers etc. Quest 3 is a fierce competitor with its price point and its aggressive 3rd party exclusives/times deals. But that's just that. Metas doesn't have first party. Neither does Valve. Half Life in 2019. Asgard Wrath in 2023. In 5 years between them, two real VR games made by them. Meanwhile, Sony first year has GT, Horizon and Firewall. This does matter. Sony are supporting it, Synapse and Resident Evil or No Man Sky are not charities. Sony funded those too. So, I think Sony should keep supporting then as they do any other 3rd party. There are big next gen games coming. Behemoth, Metro etc. Just keep supporting partner studios and get them their sales. I don't want first larty studios to do VR games, focus on the main course. Great PS5 exclusives. I can't have Naughty Dog waste time on VR. I'd rather a VR mode, of course but look. You can get those, for FREE on PC and newsflash. They don't move the needle or sell VR units for PC VR. In fact, Batman VR and Assassin Creed Nexus ALSO do not move Queat units, Ubisoft was disappointed in their sales. It simply isn't a solve all for First Party VR games to magically fix everything. Such an unrealistic & misguided expectation. Consumers don't even know the difference between first party. Yet, Media do slant against Sony & towards Meta who does the same stuff essentially. You cannot convince me there isn't a negative slant for PSVR and its certainly unbalanced. That all said, It don't matter. PSVR2 isn't going anywhere. VR2 games will continue to come to PSN. There are games Sony has funded in the Hero Projects that are VR. Third parties have found success like Skydance, Mass, Beat Saver etc. So, indies have a platform to make money. It can do fine for the creative value add it is off of passion. Its also future proofed. USB C, so PS6 and beyond will no doubt support the library built today on PSN with PS5. No doubt. It may not be where Sony hoped but VR is and in my mind always will bee a niche because of the universal barriers. Its fun and a novelty, like any flat game genre. Like graphic novels, or horror games or Asymmetrical multilayer. VR slides in there. I look forward to holding into VR and I' gladnI don't need a 0C to get VR games. As a PS5bowner, its awesome. And the tech and features, when used by devs, are fantastic. Saints and Sinners looks & runs better then PC counterpart because of the smart tech of Fov rendering. So, to end my rant. VR2 is awesome, go play it. Get acclimated and have fun with it. As for Sony, stop with these expectations for VR. Just enjoy it for what it is and be realistic. Plenty coming to VR2 to look forwards too. Just its always going to be a bonus add on peripheral. If 5m is enough for VR1 for Sony to see success and take their 30% off all software. I've no doubt VR2 will get their some day. Especially given PC compatibility now and the eventually price cuts. So, yeah. Just enjoy it and of its not for you, move on. Its a great piece of kit. Thats all it ever needed to be.
Hate to burst your bubble but meta/oculus have a lot more games that Asgards wrath 2. There are loads of games under the “Oculus studios” umbrella, and most of them are the best games you will find in VR to this day. Just to be clear I’m talking about PCVR, games like Asgards wrath 1, Stormland, lone echo 1 and 2, phantom covert ops, journey of gods, and many more if you just look at oculus originals on their store. Yes a lot of these games are developed by third party studios (3 of them PS/ex-PS Studios). Stormland is insomniac, lone echo is ready at dawn who made the order 1886 and Asgards wrath are sanzaru who made some sly cooper games and some others. But they are still exclusive to the oculus/meta ecosystem to this day. If you buy a quest and have a good pc you get 3 big VR libraries (quest standalone, oculus PC and steam) with the one headset, and the ability to play wireless. As I always have to say when I’m compelled to comment on these things, I AM NOT A FANBOY. I play where I get the best experience, and 9/10 times that’s on PC, no argument. I do have PSVR2 and have put some serious hours into the resident evil games, waking dead, gran turismo, finished horizon and generally enjoyed everything I’ve played on it. I just want all gaming to be enjoyable, smooth and successful. All VR is important to me because all the platforms provide this to me.
I got PSVR1 around 2018 and was blown away by Astrobot Rescue Mission, VR Worlds, Farpoint etc so was always going to buy into PSVR2 from Day 1. I was disappointed it was wired but understood the decision to get higher graphical quality and frame rates compared to mobile headsets like the Quest. BUT I feel since the Quest 3 launch the VR2 seems like a generation behind with the old frennel lenses and ringed controllers, its more like Quest 2 and the lack of mixed reality opportunities since its B&W cameras holds it back. It could have been much better, Firewall Ultra could have come to ps+ on day 1. A deal for HL Alyx could have been done and more hybrids and big PSVR1 ports announced but no sony are chasing the dollar instead of being inventive and keeping the fans happy.
I bought my psvr2 after i bought my quest 3 and the quest 3 is just better. But I want to play games on my PlayStation. So hopefully the 3rd party games keep coming..
@@SweetKingTanner I agree Quest 3 is better in some ways but the power of PS5 and the exclusives like GT7, Horizon etc means it can do better looking VR games imo. I use quest 3 more as it's just easier to stick on anywhere and have a quick blast on a casual game but it's the multimedia side I mainly use it for. I like apps such as RUclips VR, BigScreen & Horizon Worlds which are apps we are unlikely to see on PSVR2 but for a more PC VR experience Sony tends to be better. It just does games really well. It's a shame we aren't getting more AAA bangers, hybrids and PSVR ports but it's still early days so who knows
Sony was quite consumer friendly. The PS1 was $299 when the Saturn was $399. PS1 games were $40 when N64 games were $50. The PS2 was backward compatible & could play DVDs. The PS3 had backward compatibility too (slim versions lost PS2 chip to reduce the price). The PS3 had free online play, when Xbox charged. The PS3 had Blu-Ray & standard wireless controllers which made it cost more, which hurt it. More recently, Sony has been less consumer friendly, but it wasn’t always like that.
@@jeremyf9124 maybe that's when they were trying to dominate the market. Now they are dominating (selling more consoles then anyone else and getting consistently good reviews on AAA titles) they are the most expensive for online and games. Shame 😔I didn't mind the cost of the PSVR2 at launch. It will come down in time but it maybe too late now.
OMG!!! That would be amaaaaaaaaaazing!!!!! Hell yeah!! We like sooooo need a new Getaway game on the PS5!!! I would even settle for a remastered Getaway game on the PS5 haha, tbh I don’t think it’s a series that will ever be bought back in any shape or form but would love it if they did though! It would also be something fresh and different to what you usually get on the market nowadays, I would love to see a game come out set in the Vietnam war, not just a couple of levels like COD Cold War although like loved those levels and they like reminded me what I’ve missed haha, back in the sixth and early seventh generation Vietnam war games were quite popular, my dad loved Conflict Vietnam, he clocked it on the PS2, I’ve just missed those games haha, maybe Activision should make a COD game set entirely in the Vietnam war? Vietnam war games are like soooo fun and would again be something fresh and different to what you see in the market at the moment, I feel like maybe game developers might think that war is politically incorrect but come ooooooon! We like sooo need one haha xxxxxx
History repeats itself. Everything happening with the PSVR2 is everything that happened to the PS VITA. Superior next gen hardware that gets no support, not enough collaboration, not enough marketing.
I wanted to buy one but I needed to be sure Sony would invest in games because that is why I have a PS, for the PS games. I would love is all of their games would be a hybrid game, if PS4 games like Killzone would get PSVR2 versions (all to save on development costs) but they didn't. So like PSP and Vita an amazing piece of expensive hardware is left in the dust.
I greatly enjoy both the psvr1 and psvr2. The aim controller on the psvr1 was peak for fps. While I like the pass through fearure on the psvr2 I wish it could incorporate the external camera for greater accuracy. The main advantage of vr fps is that your cross hair isn't center of screen you dont have to be looking where your shooting. In psvr1, I can unload on enemies coming through a door and check my 6. In psvr2 if your controller isn't in your front facing arc, it isnt picked up by the internal cameras and accuracy is lost.
I got a TON of free PSVR1 games through PS Plus over the years. This has not been the case with PSVR2! Then Sony released the PS5 and made the PSVR1 compatible with it - but no new games. Then the PSVR2 comes out - but won't play PSVR1 games. I don't understand their way of thinking!
My opinion: I love VR and have owned both of PlayStation’s iterations. I’ve played multiple games on both platforms and frankly loved them all. But the problem I see between 2D and 3D gaming is that the VR experience is isolating. I feel too detached from the real world or overly immersed in the game’s world. That said, Before Your Eyes is a masterpiece and I haven’t cried that much in a long time.
Personally I want that level of immersion. That's why I can't really be bothered with flat gaming much since I got into VR. But I can understand how it'd be a detractor for people with families or partners who they like to share their gaming with. Also as much as VR is isolating from your physical surroundings, multiplayer VR is more engaging, expressive, and personal experience than flat MP is. So VR is worse for in-person socialization but better for online socialization.
@@GreyMatterShades That’s the truth. I’m a family man that likes to share my gaming like you said. And when I got my PSVR, I told my wife that if they had this stuff when I was a kid, I would be a VR gamer today. But now that I’m a young father, having a headset on for hours and “away” from my family is a problem for me. I guess I’m really complaining here by saying that I wish I could game more on VR. I love VR and hope that it is here to stay.
How Sony didn't realise that the price of PSVR2 meant it was DOA is quite unfathomable, pricing it like they did obviously meant it was going to be a complete sales flop.
Agree with your pricing take especially in current climate, they should have made it PC compatible from day one as well, larger audience and better value if you own PC and ps5
ABSOLUTELY! The only price that would make sense is half of whatever the main console is worth. If that's too low, then maybe 70% of what the console is worth. The fact that you have to pay MORE for PSVR2 than a PS5 is abysmal. The average consumer cannot justify a purchase like that.
The sales for Quest 3 individually from Quest 2 will be the stat to watch in terms of determining if this really is just a VR problem in general. Quest 2 did extremely well for VR but it released at the height of COVID very cheap with a lot of software support, but didn’t have the best software attach rate similar to Wii, Quest 3 could be their Wii U. Quest 3 is a lot more expensive and the potential market interested/curious may already be satisfied with their fitness games on Quest 2. If Quest 3 sells another 20 million though thanks to games like Batman, than it’s a Sony problem.
PSVR2, for me, is the best console experience, experience, gotta say it again, experience. Sony didn't give PSVR1/2 the best effort. Not surprised it is not doin all that well.
I just bought a PS VR2 and damn do I love it! I feel like there are so many games to play especially when I have a massive back log already on normal games! Don’t regret buying! Great video dude!
Yep I have had extra £530 (price of psvr2) but spend it on Xbox series X and I’m enjoying Halo, Gears of war, Forza horizon/motorsport, plus my 360 digital library via backwards compatibility etc
I was PSVR1 buyer day 1....when I pre-ordered PSVR2, and canceled my pre-order it was because of the price tag. After headset, charging stand, & like 2 - 3 games. It was gonna cost me like almost $700. 2 of my other friends that were hyped didn't get it either, because of price, cord, & backwards compatibility. So, just in my tiny circle. That's 3 users that didn't buy in due to those things you listed as not real reasons. I do agree VR is the main reason though, but they compounded the failure with the price / lack of features / games.
There's not enough expendable time for the average person to commit their complete attention to vr gaming. Many of us come home tired from work and just want to game for a little bit between real life responsibilities before going to bed and doing it over again. Many of us need to be able to pause in case something in the household pops up and needs attention. VR is for people with an abundance of time and can lock themselves away for a while without worry. I think Sony really miscalculated the amount of people vr would be convenient for.
except Meta Quest is doing well, they're always on the top selling on Amazon and Batman Arkham Shadow is releasing on Quest 3. last year Quest 2 outsold Xbox and they're planning on releasing a cheaper version of Quest 3 to sell even more.
Psvr2 amd psvr 1 took over my Playstation 4 & 5 when they released. I play mine daily and hope they dont stop. VR is definitely a game changer for me and i dont even play flat games anymore. Behemonth is still in development and hopefully Killzone and Resistance can comeback and integrated PSVR2 support with the features the headset have
The conversation around PSVR2 is so challenging. I know it's not a big audience, but I think people just want to lean on negative narratives just for the sake of engagement. The PSVR2 library in a year, rivals anything that most consoles get. The amount of quality games are there. I do think there is a severe lack of marketing. Games like Hubris or Propagation are nowhere to be heard from and they are stellar games.
I agree with your sentiment here. There are a lot of great things on PSVR 2 and we're like a year and a half in. Though there should be more PC and Quest games available for it, for VR to really thrive it's too early for exclusives. The PSVR 2 is the middle point on quality and price I've been waiting for for so long, it's a shame the economy/gaming industry is in the state it's in when it did finally arrive (with studio closures and shareholder greed limiting development potential, and the economy limiting purchasing power of consumers (making VR a harder sell)). But there is a lot more there than people give it credit for, and way less patience or understanding on a lull in announcements compared to console gaming.
Ryan, you are one of the few people on this platform that do not oversimplify or dramatise when covering video games industry. Love your straight and non-entitled approach to covering these stories, keep it up!
PS VR2 costs $730 in my country...the games are like $50-$60 each on top of that...there's no way to justify that for myself. I'd love to try it though.
It depends on what you mean by "crap on". People talking about the price to games ratio are correct. I got PSVR1 on a huge 50% sale long after the platform was relevant. I experienced all of the must-play games like Astro Bot, Moss, Beat Saber, RE7 etc. Even then I never felt like me getting it 50% was a steal. It felt just right. Because as soon as you leave the AAA sphere, indie VR games simply could not achieve the same level of immersion for me. Now PSVR2 is basically triple the price of what I got PSVR1 for and with FAR fewer "must play" games so I could never imagine myself getting it in its current state and I believe a lot of people feel exactly like me. If I'm paying a premium for a gadget that depends on my already expensive console to run, I want premium experiences.
Once again, issue for me isn't what we've gotten but what we HAVEN'T gotten. Imo pretty much every first-party VR1 title should've been brought over day 1, or at least within year 1. I hope I am wrong and we get a surprise Astro Rescue Mission port this fall alongside the new game but it doesn't help your product when a metric ton of VR games are on your storefront and you can't play them on the premiere headset, ya know?
It’s a shame Sony didn’t learn anything from the Vita. It’s even more baffling considering the blueprint for the perfect VR ecosystem already exists (Oculus quest 2) and all they had to do was Playstation-ify it. Had the PSVR been standalone and had a lower price of entry, it would have been a huge success. Trying to convince people to spend 500 on a PS5, then 600 on a VR headset and removing backwards compatibility with PSVR1 games is some Sega 32x levels of shenanigans.
No. That would be doing what Pico has done. It wouldn't work, just buy Quest 3. PSVR2 games look a lot better. The problem is that Sony makes no games for the PSVR2, nothing that would make people buy it.
I don't think it's a learning issue and to me it's not baffling. It's a question of limited studio resources. Sony currently needs all of its studios working on regular PS5 games. Otherwise they won't be able to compete with these Xbox + Bethesda + Activision showcases.
Also i think another issue is just the gaming industry is changing and i think companies are trying to make less but higher quality games just in general. Like trying to get away from games that are only good visuals and then suck otherwise....
Hybrid VR games is really where Sony should have focused on. GT7 and the RE games are the types of games that will sell units and it takes the risk out of limiting big budget games to a small userbase. There's so many AA games out their that could have been given a VR mode like Alien Isolation and Stray for a relatively small investment. Sony really dropped the ball by not focusing more in those types of games and being way to stingy on the marketing front.
The 3DS was killing the Vita and there was absolutely nothing Sony could do about it. They were right to abandon it before they lost even more money on it. VR has had nearly a decade to gain momentum and no one cares about it. It's way overpriced and VR2 isn't even compatible with VR1! You have to be a Sony fanboy to defend this $600 waste of time.
I feel like it's a vicious circle for VR in general right now. Software available doesn't justify the entry price to it (either on pc or ps5). I think people are interested and curious about VR, but then see what's available to play... and let's be honest, it's not great. So, I believe it is a matter of time, the tech will become cheaper, and developments will also improve gradually. VR2 in particular, besides price, has another obvious issue, which is the non backwards compatibility with VR1 games. Personally was excited about getting VR2 as a non VR1 holder, even bought several VR1 games in advance of the official VR2 announcement. Then, got no compatibility and a price tag that felt too expensive given the circumstances (no backwards comp., more expensive than PS5 while being an accessory, doubts about how Sony was gonna treat it as they had quickly abandoned the literal VR2 predecessor...).
If someone is going to be giving up on the headset then they better provide some software to make the headset open source so people can buy software from Steam. MAKE IT BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE!!!!
Not being able to play 3D VR media was a deal killer for me when comparing it to other VR headsets. It would have easily added a lot of value to the PSVR2.
I fully agree with your analysis of the issues with the PSVR2! I pre-ordered PS VR to because I was running off of the excitement. I felt from having such a wonderful experience with PSVR1. I’m sorry I did that. I really should’ve waited to see what kind of support Sony would give?The first iteration didn’t thrive because of major Sony support. It became amazing because of third-party game support. What I’m not understanding is why PS VR developers are not making games for every vr system! The entire industry needs all the support that it can get so should be made available for all systems not just one or two. I am so disappointed in my purchase. I’ve only played with the headset once or twice and have not touched it anymore! A serious waste of money!!! I erroneously assumed that that initial lineup that came out so strong was a precursor what was to come. But I failed to look at what the track record already was for the PS5. If the PS5 was having issues, I don’t know what made me think the VR system would fair any better I was just caught up in the excitement. I developed a close family from just one game in VR and assumed that that game would be just as amazing in VR2 but the developer dropped the ball and it’s just not as good and all of my friends are still playing on vr1. I know the long-term success of the gaming industry is bright, but I do fear that the next couple of years for the industry is gonna be rocky I don’t see any happy endings or pots of gold at the end of the gaming rainbow right now. I think the next couple of years are going to be rough especially for PlayStation first party games!!!!!
I wish Sony had put the money into further game development for the base console. I just don't think there is enough in VR- not enough ideas, not enough innovation. I still stand by the argument that the only true gem on my PSVR1 is the upgraded version of Rez! It is mind-blowing! It was already that on Dreamcast and PS3, but the PS4 version makes it even more so. Those are the sorts of things we should have been getting- almost arcade like experiences. But they didn't, and now we have Xbox fans and Switch fans claiming we've got nothin coming up (because they've forgotten their drought over the years while we've had Stellar Blade FF7Rebirth, etc. Games that have been truly spectacular!
I'am mainly a PSVR2 Player. I love the headset and the first year was incredible (RE 8 & 4, GT7, Synapse, Horizon and so much more). We still have and had some bangers this year but it's all third party. I was convinced that I will get a PS5pro but if Sony did not announce something I want for my headset I will invest that money in a PC. It really depends what these two Games means. I really hoped that the Hybrid-Leaks a few years back where true. More flat games in VR is my dream. UEVR is not perfect but it is right now the closest thing to what I wish for. I hoped that after Jim Ryan leaving things could be better, but this does not sound like it. I still don't get why PSVR2 had such a bad reputation after the first year. I think Sony really tried but everyone hated on it anyway (looking at you Greg Miller 👀). With RE4 on Quest everyone loved it but with the Remake on PSVR2 so many people said "oh I played it half a year ago, why bother" even though that version is insane and one of the best VR things out right now. So Sony perhaps concluded that even trying does not move the needle... It sucks for me, but perhaps that's how the state of VR is right now.
Hated VR until I got psvr2. This is the place to be for new experiences whereas mainstream is regurgitating the same thing every year, the vr market is so experimental and unique at this stage in its life. You dont want to miss it if you like video games.
Doesn't surprise me. Sony abandoned the wonderful Vita pretty quickly. VR2 is great, but would sell more if they put out some good games for it. History repeats.
I said the same thing years ago. They should've invested in PSP2/Vita 2 than PSVR2. I think a new handheld would be in a better position than what PSVR2 is in now.
I think VR needs to be cheap to make it accessible and widely adopted, the current price points for current VR headsets are just not great. Yes you get oled panels and a bunch of features but with certain headsets but you still need to invest a fortune in other hardware to make it work. Make it cheap to start with stick it out for a while and then increase the price once people have taken it aboard and sales are good. Right now no one wants to pay the silly prices to play a hand full of VR games.
I agree with you.. but then they shoot themselves in the foot by restricting the library (no bc for psvr1, no half life alyx, etc). They have control over issues like this.
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Answering the title question. Yes. Next question please
Not being able to buy controllers directly from Sony or in a store makes me feel like Sony didn't want to release the PSVR2. The 2D interface matched up with mostly Quest ports, made me buy a Quest 3 and turned that into my daily driver.
If instead of throwing money on VR (or PS portal) we had a PSP2, Sony would be taking a good slice of that Switch money pie. Jim Ryan did his miracles...
Great breakdown! 👍 One small point I’d make about the PC adapter is that while the various things like headset rumble, adaptive triggers, and eye-tracked foveated rendering won’t be available for PC games, I’m pretty sure that’s gonna be a case-by-case scenario. I don’t think there will be anything precluding devs and modders from incorporating it, but all of those things are new to the PCVR space and so currently no/few games offer any of it. But I think they could all work *IF* a dev or modder makes a point of adding those functionalities in to a particular title. At least that’s what I’m hearing from PC folk. Regardless, even without those features the PSVR2 will be the least expensive OLED panel PC headset by leagues. Just sayin. 🙂
It's expected but still disappointing. I bought day one both PSVR1 and PSVR2. It's the last time I will ever buy a peripheral from SONY. Sick of what they do to their customers, fans and partners that take the plunge. So many awesome games and imagine if they actually bothered...giving out PSVR2 games in Premium was a great idea but they should have started a long time ago, but this is what made me dust off the PSVR2. Having a blast with synth rider, mini golf and Saints and Sinners chapter 2 (still waiting to get a bucket seat and wheel for GT7, the reason I even got a PSVR2).
I just think its too damn expensive. $550 for the headset PLUS at least another $400 for the PS5, not to mention the games. It's like $1000 minimum to get into it
Eye toy demo booth was at all game stores and Tech Store here in Sweden, which made it easier to make a decision if it was worth buying. However i have yet to see 1 Demo booth for Psvr2. And you kinda wanna try the Psvr2 before you buy, given its high price tag.
Yep, it's expensive. But the alternative is to have a super cheap headset with crappy features that no one would enjoy after trying it once. Unfortunately good vr costs money.
I only hope that exclusive PSVR content comes to pc. VR is already very limited as it is I just want to be able to play resident evils in VR on my beast of a rig with high frame rates
Give me compelling software that is exclusive to VR, and you'll capture my interest. Whenever I hear people defend the PSVR2 game library, they always mention games that can be played without the headset. Like Horizon, Resident Evil, Gran Turismo, etc. Where are the AAA games that can only be played on PSVR2?? I'm not buying the headset if I can play those games without one.
For the record, the Horizon game on PSVR 2 (Call of the Mountain) is a VR exclusive, not a port of any of the flat games. Honestly though a port would've been better, because even though Horizon Call of the Mountain is considered triple-A for VR, it's a much smaller more linear experience than the flat Horizon games. Still supposed to be good though. But the reason is simple. VR is stuck in a vicious cycle. There aren't enough triple-A VR exclusives to sell a ton of headsets, and without a ton of VR players, companies can't justify the cost/resources necessary to make triple-A VR exclusives. If Sony spent 4 years and $200 million (an average schedule and budget for one of their triple-A flat games) on a PSVR 2 game, yes it would sell headsets, but it'd still only be one triple-A game. Most people won't buy hardware for one game, so it wouldn't sell enough to make back its production costs. That's why VR players are excited for hybrid games like RE and GT7. It's currently the only way to experience true triple-A games in VR, since the cost of a VR port is much smaller than the cost of making a brand new triple-A VR exclusive. I agree though that exclusives would be a better selling point. Also worth noting that playing games in VR is very different from playing them on a TV. You feel like you're really in the game's world. Makes a lot of games, especially horror, much more intense and amazing. Commercials and youtube trailers don't do it justice, you have to experience it yourself. I wish Sony would do public demos of PSVR 2 so more people could try it.
GT7 is a VR killer app beyond EVERYTHING ELSE in VR and that is it. Gonna get a used Quest 2 in a few months because jfc sideloading all those classic PC games over, so easily, gimme those umpteen hours of impending fun!
PSVR SUCKS. No one asked for it, let alone a second version. Waste of money and resources. They should spend money on PS3 emulation and remastering legacy games, etc
I loved PSVR 1. I held off on buying PSVR2 because the launch line up was weak and Call of the Mountain looked like other half baked experiences. Farpoint was a kind blowing experience and I can't believe they didn't make a sequel. It would have pushed me over the edge to buy a headset.
To get people to buy a PSVR it needs to be cheap. Nobody wants to spend $500 on a console then $500 for an add on. The vr should be $200 and I have not even talked about game prices as well which factor in.
Sony doesn’t make money from selling hardware. You think a vr headset WITH 2 controllers could be designed, manufactured, marketed, and sold for $200 when inflation is still near an all time high… sure, ok.
@@snipinpixihunter I’m saying that Sony needs to find a way to make it cheap maybe making a cheaper model. Casuals are not going to spend over $500 for a vr headset
@@codean909 they could take a loss to get the headset into homes because no one is buying it anyways so they could take a loss on hardware then make that money through game sales.
Sony needs to get the racing games to support VR as that’s where I feel a lot of VR buyers play. On PC F1 games and ACC both support VR but not on PS5.
they looked at the sales of the headset and the hardware and said "nah, lets cut this right now and CONCENTRATE on games our customers WILL play!!" so now hopefully they will set that money aside for what REALLY matters to gamers... a NEW psvita and MORE NEW GAMES!!!! (at least I can wish, lol)
All these doom and gloom articles about psvr2.. based off one guys article whom doesn't even like psvr2 and prefers meta.. I think that's ridiculous, especially considering how the piece reads. Conversely, Sony should permanently drop price immediately and create bundle offers to drive sales. Outside of PSP, they have a poor track record in regards to suppot of their peripherals and accessories.
I was gonna buy the VR2 during that sale but I decided not to since Sony seems to have abandoned support for it. It's a shame since it seems to be really amazing hardware! If Sony starts supporting it more I'd be willing to purchase one for myself.
Look how popular Pokemon Go was. Thats mixed reality and the world loved it. I think eventually we will all be wanting to run around wearing ray ban style glasses shooting virtual zombies and aliens in the real world aswell as VR or doing desktop computing in them with several screens without needing monitors but to get to that stage more people need to buy into VR i.e. PSVR2, Quest 3 & Apple Vision Pro so the development gets quicker. Its happening but its a slow process.
Always been interested in the PSVR but after seeing the first one not have any relevant games worth buying and also having the PSVR2 not having backwards compatibility right away i was like nah i don'twant it
So I think the analysis surrounding the PC adapter is straight up incorrect. It turns out that MOST VR media is created by creators, and a LARGE portion of that media use Quest 2/Quest 3 as a means of showing PCVR content. This means that Quest gets PR EVERY time this is done, showing off the hottest games in high fidelity. When we see UEVR mods, you're almost ALWAYS watching somebody playing a Quest 3. PSVR2 having a PC adapter buys Sony a HUGE amount of exposure for the PSVR2.
I think this is a really well put together video. As someone who owns a psvr2, I’ve been wondering if my purchase was worth it recently. Ultimately, I think it was, because I look at something like the quest 3, where there may be MORE games, but not some of my favorites like Resi 8 or 4, NMS, and I’m excited to try Madison. Well done, I’m excited to see VR take off. I don’t know if it’ll be this gen, but maybe next.
They've made a great product in my opinion. The problem is the content. Besides a few hits, the other games seems a bit half assed in terms of pushing the graphics to their full potential.
Fun fact: PS5 doesn’t support 3D Blu-ray so you can’t even use PSVR2 to watch 3D movies like you can with the PSVR1 and PS4. It not only lacks game content but content across the board.
Honestly there are some very fun looking games for PSVR2, but the one time I tried a VR headset I got motion sickness for hours afterwards so I'm tentative to spend $500 for a console I can't really use properly
PSVR2 players don't need completely bespoke games like Call of the Mountain. How about a little more hybrid support for PS5 games already out there or in development?
Modders are pulling this off in weeks. Granted these are achieved through brute force, but that's why ETFR is part of the hardware spec. But I don't think the cost of adding VR support to Flat games(like RE8, RE4) is going to be lost cost.
The reality is that Sony's own PS Studios don't have VR development knowledge to supply the market with blockbuster games like they do flat games. VR is like a reset, therefore relying on 3rd party and indy developers like they did with PS1 and PS2.
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It's refreshing hearing someone discuss about PSVR2 with the right mindset for once.
As I have gotten older I appreciate Mystic a lot
Ryan has the some of the most level-headed takes instead of being jaded and cynical like a lot of people are on the Internet
@@MyNameDolanyeah he’s the only one I’m getting my gaming news from nowadays. Most RUclipsrs are becoming obnoxious in their takes aimed on triggering emotional reactions to “drive engagement”.
@@vassili3000the old saying, "Different strikes for different folks".
I just don't understand why Sony would spend so much money developing such a great piece of hardware and yet not learn their lesson from PSVR1 and not have any tentpole games for it.
It has tentpole games. Just not many people know about them sadly. Gt7, resident evil 4 and 8, horizon, synapse, red matter 1 and 2 and more.
There is also aliens VR and behemoth coming out later this year.
@joefawley9264 The only real game I'd consider tentpole would be horizon and maybe GT7. I would imagine Sony had to know they would need REALLY compelling software to get more casual gamers to purchase a $500 accessory. I would've also thought they would've learned this lesson already with PSVR1.
The HQ move ruined everything, basically.
@@phillippinoFLASH but the other problem is, we don't even know what tentpole games Sony has for us for the PS5 let alone VR.
Personally, I thought behemoth was the best game shown at the state of play.
@@phillippinoFLASH realistically, I'm not sure what game other than Gran Theft Auto would help move more units. We had Skyrim, an exclusive Ironman game and others on psvr1 and I'm not sure it helped much.
I think giving the pc adapter was the final straw to basically leave this to 3rd party developers
The thing is that PC gamers are not going to pick up a PSVR2, PC Adapter and a DP cable when they have other options.
@@terminusaquo1980 There's really not. The only other alternative out there is the Quest 3, which has slightly better specs and its own library of games. Remains to be seen how well the adapter performs.
Other than that? There's the Valve Index, which has WAY worse screens and costs as much as a PS5 + PSVR2 and uses outside tracking, so you need to set up the trackers somewhere around your house. Anything from HTC has similar problems. And that's basically it, unless you're willing to spend thousands of dollars for the headset.
@@terminusaquo1980 They have better options like pairing the Quest 3 to a PC. The only two advantages the PSVR2 has over Q3 'when' paired with a PC are it's deeper blacks & richer vibrant colours. PSVR2 to pc connectivity strips down so much of the PSVR2's features.
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Slightly better specs? I have both Q3 & PSVR2, and the formers sweet spot is FAR wider, Pancake clarity is clearer/sharper, it's a lot more comfortable, it's wireless, has zero motion blur(PSVR2 uses a high persistence blur OLED display...), there's no mura or god rays, minimal glare, ring-less controllers, mixed reality, colour pass through, built in audio speakers, it's super slim and sleek, and it has an amazing eco system, store front, that goes beyond just VR gaming.
The Quest 3 + PC feels like it's 1-2 generations ahead of the PSVR2. The latter is a bulky cumbersome mess that feels like you're wearing a medieval torture device. I loved Resident Evil 8 VIllage VR, and the first half of RE4 VR, but 8 has already been modded for PC VR, and I'm sure the latter will get the same treatment.
On the flip side, PSVR2 has deeper blacks & richer/vibrant colours, but all of it's other features including haptics, head haptics, adaptive triggers, along with eye tracking & FR have all been disabed on PC.
@@nirast2561 Honestly the quest 2 and 3 are the only options PC currently needs. The quest 2 still holds up especially for the price and the quest 3 does everything the psvr2 does but better and still cheaper. Both are also wireless.
Thank you, Ryan, for your integrity on NOT speaking about every rumor and "leak" and including it into NEWS!! I wished other "content creators" had that sense of responsibility.
They should have developed a proper AAA spinoff KillZone or Resistance for PSVR2
That’s a super cool idea but like ngl I would prefer to see a revival for either of those on the PS5 xxxx
Look at Nintendo, they have successful characters/mascots like Mario & Zelda that always come to the next gen systems and people want to play the new experiences. Sony made a mistake not bringing their mascots to VR2. Astro, Sackboy, Kratos, Nathan Drake etc could have come, even in shorter experiences and PS5 owners might have bought into it.
I guarantee you that those games wouldn't meet sales expectations. A PS5 is already expensive, and you have a growing number of people saying that they aren't ever buying a PS5 because of low number of games/they just don't like Sony/they are cheap. You really want to compound all of these problems by locking games behind a $500 accessory? It's just not smart.
They shouldve rereleased a proper Fallout 4 VR for ps5 in timing with the show.
We did get that, it's called horizon: call of the mountain. You know, the IP that guerilla games is currently focusing on and making. Those ip's you mentioned are dead & have been for a long time. We got those spinoffs on the vita. Go play the vita.
And the report has an ad for Quest 3 at its end. It suggests that Quest 3's 2 true exclusives, and suggests a bunch of multi-plats also available, or coming to PSVR2 (and arguably superior PSVR2 versions at that).
This "PSVR2 is dead" rhetoric needs to go away.
It's Nintendo type tactics, like what they did to Sega
Sony Pony 🐴
PSVR2 is dead
@@Great-Documentaries Except it really isnt
Sony dropping the price $200 is confirmation that they're blowing out their inventory and are abandoning the platform. Sony are tightwads. They'd never give such a huge discount for any other reason.
First of all, I absolutely HATE IT when people have to tell people how they should react. Any jackhole that puts "you" and "should" in their titles in any order there are never to be worth a read at all. Same goes to everyone on RUclips that does this with their video titles.
Second, it really is unfortunate that such a impressive headset is basically going the way of the Vita with how much Sony is basically giving up on the thing. I mean it was too be expected with how expensive it is compared to its predecessor but at the same time it is something that should've been seen coming by Sony themselves.
Yeah, when you launch hardware that's more expensive than a console with almost no marketing and no clear commitment to supporting it long-term, you really can't be surprised if people don't rush to pick it up. It's such a shame.
The really unfortunate thing is, if you look back at the Vita now, it was actually fairly well supported. Sony kept manufacturing it for 9 years, and published/developed over 30 games for it, including major franchises like God of War, Uncharted, Killzone, Resistance, Wipeout, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, and Little Big Planet. If PSVR 2 had a third of that support, Sony would've sold millions more of them guaranteed.
@@GreyMatterShadesPS VR2 already have 1/3 of that support in only 1.5 year if you count 2nd party titles such as Resident Evil 8-4 directly funded by Sony
I am much more of an XBOX platform guy (game pass ultimate, blah blah) but dang I would put you S tier with just responsible and nice game people whatever in the industry. Thank you for doing what you do
I LOVE MY VR2 is amazing and the hardware is just minblowing, dont take this kind of things very sirious if you are about to buy one, you will not regret it
No one wants a paperweight ..the library is limited for $600 entry fee(on top of PS5)
Sony stole your money
People who love VR really love it, but they represent such a small percentage of gamers it's not overly profitable especially in the case of PSVR2 where there are relatively few games.
@@TheBigTone100if this person is having a blast with their PSVR, then it’s definitely not a lost cause. If it keeps them playing for years to come, then it’s worth it (it’s not valuable to everyone though)
@TheBigTone100 its HIS money to spend
It freakin cost to much, i want one and have for a long time, im cant spend 500+ for it
It was just on sale for $100 off. Hopefully that's a sign there'll be a price cut, or at least more sales soon.
The PSVR2 is great tech, but at $599 it’s too expensive.
If it were backwards compatible it would be an easier sell, or if it were half the price it would be a lot more popular.
Gran Turismo, Resident Evil, and hidden gems aren’t enough for it to compete effectively against Meta Quest.
Not really a surprise.... What were they expecting when releasing an accessorie that costs more than the console itself?
Silliest argument ever. Price of one device≠the other. It is a high end VR headset. It is incredibly cheap for its features. One day you might find out...😊it's amazing!
@@TheVRResistance Nope 1995 is right.
@@TheVRResistanceStop being a fan boy. Psvr2 literally can not be used without a ps5 (already expensive), still can't be used on pc, and can't even run psvr1 games. Nobody with a functioning brain would think that's a good product to invest in.
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The average consumer cannot afford to buy a ps5+vr headset in the economic climate that we have today, and to even want to be motivated to spend such a large amount, you then first want to try the tech.
Something that is very difficult to be able to do as few people have these VR glasses and in many countries game shops have closed down.
Well did you see other vr units on PC, it's minimum the same price so it's not overpriced but. Buying a compatible PC +vr is much more expensive.
PSVR2 is AWESOME! Me and my brother got one at launch and we still hop in at least once a week, (less in hot weather) with Walkabout or the latest new co-op VR game. I totally agree with Mystic. The media loves to rag on VR2 but the reason VR2 isn't selling gangbusters is less to do with PlayStation and more to do with VR. Sure, things do limit it. Wite etc. For one. Meta has 7 billion potential users compared to PS5's 60m. That and, well. It's a PHYSICAL activity. Very tiring. Kids love VR. Adults? After work? Oof. That, admittedly, is an event sorta thing. Like a launch of a new single player game on a free weekend. I love a good single player campaign VR (Horizon, Saints & Sinners, Sybapse) or a drop in drop out (Beat Saner, Demeo, Creed, Pavlov) but it will NEVER replace a couch and a controller with no exhaustion or slight dizziness. That doesn't mean its not FUN or worthwhile. I think Sony and 3rd parties will absolutely support this next gen piece of VR kit. The tech is top of class and far cheaper for PS5 OWNERS then a PC where often a similar spec like Index is $1000+ and requires separate purchase for controllers etc. Quest 3 is a fierce competitor with its price point and its aggressive 3rd party exclusives/times deals. But that's just that. Metas doesn't have first party. Neither does Valve. Half Life in 2019. Asgard Wrath in 2023. In 5 years between them, two real VR games made by them. Meanwhile, Sony first year has GT, Horizon and Firewall. This does matter. Sony are supporting it, Synapse and Resident Evil or No Man Sky are not charities. Sony funded those too. So, I think Sony should keep supporting then as they do any other 3rd party. There are big next gen games coming. Behemoth, Metro etc. Just keep supporting partner studios and get them their sales. I don't want first larty studios to do VR games, focus on the main course. Great PS5 exclusives. I can't have Naughty Dog waste time on VR. I'd rather a VR mode, of course but look. You can get those, for FREE on PC and newsflash. They don't move the needle or sell VR units for PC VR. In fact, Batman VR and Assassin Creed Nexus ALSO do not move Queat units, Ubisoft was disappointed in their sales. It simply isn't a solve all for First Party VR games to magically fix everything. Such an unrealistic & misguided expectation. Consumers don't even know the difference between first party. Yet, Media do slant against Sony & towards Meta who does the same stuff essentially. You cannot convince me there isn't a negative slant for PSVR and its certainly unbalanced. That all said, It don't matter. PSVR2 isn't going anywhere. VR2 games will continue to come to PSN. There are games Sony has funded in the Hero Projects that are VR. Third parties have found success like Skydance, Mass, Beat Saver etc. So, indies have a platform to make money. It can do fine for the creative value add it is off of passion. Its also future proofed. USB C, so PS6 and beyond will no doubt support the library built today on PSN with PS5. No doubt. It may not be where Sony hoped but VR is and in my mind always will bee a niche because of the universal barriers. Its fun and a novelty, like any flat game genre. Like graphic novels, or horror games or Asymmetrical multilayer. VR slides in there. I look forward to holding into VR and I' gladnI don't need a 0C to get VR games. As a PS5bowner, its awesome. And the tech and features, when used by devs, are fantastic. Saints and Sinners looks & runs better then PC counterpart because of the smart tech of Fov rendering. So, to end my rant. VR2 is awesome, go play it. Get acclimated and have fun with it. As for Sony, stop with these expectations for VR. Just enjoy it for what it is and be realistic. Plenty coming to VR2 to look forwards too. Just its always going to be a bonus add on peripheral. If 5m is enough for VR1 for Sony to see success and take their 30% off all software. I've no doubt VR2 will get their some day. Especially given PC compatibility now and the eventually price cuts. So, yeah. Just enjoy it and of its not for you, move on. Its a great piece of kit. Thats all it ever needed to be.
This 30,000 word essay of yours isn’t going to change Sony’s mind nor that of its Class A shareholders.
Hate to burst your bubble but meta/oculus have a lot more games that Asgards wrath 2.
There are loads of games under the “Oculus studios” umbrella, and most of them are the best games you will find in VR to this day. Just to be clear I’m talking about PCVR, games like Asgards wrath 1, Stormland, lone echo 1 and 2, phantom covert ops, journey of gods, and many more if you just look at oculus originals on their store.
Yes a lot of these games are developed by third party studios (3 of them PS/ex-PS Studios). Stormland is insomniac, lone echo is ready at dawn who made the order 1886 and Asgards wrath are sanzaru who made some sly cooper games and some others. But they are still exclusive to the oculus/meta ecosystem to this day. If you buy a quest and have a good pc you get 3 big VR libraries (quest standalone, oculus PC and steam) with the one headset, and the ability to play wireless.
As I always have to say when I’m compelled to comment on these things, I AM NOT A FANBOY. I play where I get the best experience, and 9/10 times that’s on PC, no argument. I do have PSVR2 and have put some serious hours into the resident evil games, waking dead, gran turismo, finished horizon and generally enjoyed everything I’ve played on it.
I just want all gaming to be enjoyable, smooth and successful. All VR is important to me because all the platforms provide this to me.
Because the market is too small for them to put big studios on it. VR is not catching fire like companies wanted It to.
vr is also not a mainstream technology yet. and i feel like that is one reason psvr 2 is failing that no one is talking about
I got PSVR1 around 2018 and was blown away by Astrobot Rescue Mission, VR Worlds, Farpoint etc so was always going to buy into PSVR2 from Day 1. I was disappointed it was wired but understood the decision to get higher graphical quality and frame rates compared to mobile headsets like the Quest.
BUT I feel since the Quest 3 launch the VR2 seems like a generation behind with the old frennel lenses and ringed controllers, its more like Quest 2 and the lack of mixed reality opportunities since its B&W cameras holds it back.
It could have been much better, Firewall Ultra could have come to ps+ on day 1. A deal for HL Alyx could have been done and more hybrids and big PSVR1 ports announced but no sony are chasing the dollar instead of being inventive and keeping the fans happy.
I bought my psvr2 after i bought my quest 3 and the quest 3 is just better. But I want to play games on my PlayStation. So hopefully the 3rd party games keep coming..
@@SweetKingTanner I agree Quest 3 is better in some ways but the power of PS5 and the exclusives like GT7, Horizon etc means it can do better looking VR games imo.
I use quest 3 more as it's just easier to stick on anywhere and have a quick blast on a casual game but it's the multimedia side I mainly use it for. I like apps such as RUclips VR, BigScreen & Horizon Worlds which are apps we are unlikely to see on PSVR2 but for a more PC VR experience Sony tends to be better. It just does games really well. It's a shame we aren't getting more AAA bangers, hybrids and PSVR ports but it's still early days so who knows
Sony was never consumer friendly. Only thing they ever wanted was the every penny you own.
Sony was quite consumer friendly. The PS1 was $299 when the Saturn was $399. PS1 games were $40 when N64 games were $50. The PS2 was backward compatible & could play DVDs. The PS3 had backward compatibility too (slim versions lost PS2 chip to reduce the price). The PS3 had free online play, when Xbox charged. The PS3 had Blu-Ray & standard wireless controllers which made it cost more, which hurt it. More recently, Sony has been less consumer friendly, but it wasn’t always like that.
@@jeremyf9124 maybe that's when they were trying to dominate the market. Now they are dominating (selling more consoles then anyone else and getting consistently good reviews on AAA titles) they are the most expensive for online and games. Shame 😔I didn't mind the cost of the PSVR2 at launch. It will come down in time but it maybe too late now.
Sony please make a new Getaway game! 😢Can you imagine how great London would look with today's graphics 😮
I agree but RIP that studio :(
OMG!!! That would be amaaaaaaaaaazing!!!!! Hell yeah!! We like sooooo need a new Getaway game on the PS5!!! I would even settle for a remastered Getaway game on the PS5 haha, tbh I don’t think it’s a series that will ever be bought back in any shape or form but would love it if they did though! It would also be something fresh and different to what you usually get on the market nowadays, I would love to see a game come out set in the Vietnam war, not just a couple of levels like COD Cold War although like loved those levels and they like reminded me what I’ve missed haha, back in the sixth and early seventh generation Vietnam war games were quite popular, my dad loved Conflict Vietnam, he clocked it on the PS2, I’ve just missed those games haha, maybe Activision should make a COD game set entirely in the Vietnam war? Vietnam war games are like soooo fun and would again be something fresh and different to what you see in the market at the moment, I feel like maybe game developers might think that war is politically incorrect but come ooooooon! We like sooo need one haha xxxxxx
History repeats itself. Everything happening with the PSVR2 is everything that happened to the PS VITA.
Superior next gen hardware that gets no support, not enough collaboration, not enough marketing.
The Vita had a vast library
@@jimmyjay689 Because it was backwards compatible, partly, something PSVR2 isn't.
Not support: wasting money on ports for PSVR2.....
@@jimmyjay689because of third party developers. It now has massive library thanks to hackers.
Sony killed the Vita day 1 with those overpriced memory cards.
I wanted to buy one but I needed to be sure Sony would invest in games because that is why I have a PS, for the PS games. I would love is all of their games would be a hybrid game, if PS4 games like Killzone would get PSVR2 versions (all to save on development costs) but they didn't. So like PSP and Vita an amazing piece of expensive hardware is left in the dust.
I greatly enjoy both the psvr1 and psvr2. The aim controller on the psvr1 was peak for fps. While I like the pass through fearure on the psvr2 I wish it could incorporate the external camera for greater accuracy. The main advantage of vr fps is that your cross hair isn't center of screen you dont have to be looking where your shooting. In psvr1, I can unload on enemies coming through a door and check my 6. In psvr2 if your controller isn't in your front facing arc, it isnt picked up by the internal cameras and accuracy is lost.
Honestly. No back compatibility was the main reason I decided against buying the PSVR 2
I got a TON of free PSVR1 games through PS Plus over the years. This has not been the case with PSVR2! Then Sony released the PS5 and made the PSVR1 compatible with it - but no new games. Then the PSVR2 comes out - but won't play PSVR1 games. I don't understand their way of thinking!
My opinion: I love VR and have owned both of PlayStation’s iterations. I’ve played multiple games on both platforms and frankly loved them all. But the problem I see between 2D and 3D gaming is that the VR experience is isolating. I feel too detached from the real world or overly immersed in the game’s world. That said, Before Your Eyes is a masterpiece and I haven’t cried that much in a long time.
Before Your Eyes is definitely one of my favorite vr experiences of all time. Couldn’t believe how much it made me cry lol..
@@SweetKingTanner I was genuinely concerned that I was going to ruin the headset with all my tears. I had to pause it to clean everything up.
That's the point of VR, isolating experience.
Personally I want that level of immersion. That's why I can't really be bothered with flat gaming much since I got into VR. But I can understand how it'd be a detractor for people with families or partners who they like to share their gaming with.
Also as much as VR is isolating from your physical surroundings, multiplayer VR is more engaging, expressive, and personal experience than flat MP is. So VR is worse for in-person socialization but better for online socialization.
@@GreyMatterShades That’s the truth. I’m a family man that likes to share my gaming like you said. And when I got my PSVR, I told my wife that if they had this stuff when I was a kid, I would be a VR gamer today. But now that I’m a young father, having a headset on for hours and “away” from my family is a problem for me.
I guess I’m really complaining here by saying that I wish I could game more on VR. I love VR and hope that it is here to stay.
How Sony didn't realise that the price of PSVR2 meant it was DOA is quite unfathomable, pricing it like they did obviously meant it was going to be a complete sales flop.
Agree with your pricing take especially in current climate, they should have made it PC compatible from day one as well, larger audience and better value if you own PC and ps5
ABSOLUTELY! The only price that would make sense is half of whatever the main console is worth. If that's too low, then maybe 70% of what the console is worth. The fact that you have to pay MORE for PSVR2 than a PS5 is abysmal. The average consumer cannot justify a purchase like that.
It is currently €410 on sale, I paid €500 for the console. Worth it? @@PSspecialist
The sales for Quest 3 individually from Quest 2 will be the stat to watch in terms of determining if this really is just a VR problem in general. Quest 2 did extremely well for VR but it released at the height of COVID very cheap with a lot of software support, but didn’t have the best software attach rate similar to Wii, Quest 3 could be their Wii U. Quest 3 is a lot more expensive and the potential market interested/curious may already be satisfied with their fitness games on Quest 2. If Quest 3 sells another 20 million though thanks to games like Batman, than it’s a Sony problem.
PSVR2, for me, is the best console experience, experience, gotta say it again, experience. Sony didn't give PSVR1/2 the best effort. Not surprised it is not doin all that well.
I just bought a PS VR2 and damn do I love it! I feel like there are so many games to play especially when I have a massive back log already on normal games!
Don’t regret buying! Great video dude!
Yep I have had extra £530 (price of psvr2) but spend it on Xbox series X and I’m enjoying Halo, Gears of war, Forza horizon/motorsport, plus my 360 digital library via backwards compatibility etc
I was PSVR1 buyer day 1....when I pre-ordered PSVR2, and canceled my pre-order it was because of the price tag. After headset, charging stand, & like 2 - 3 games. It was gonna cost me like almost $700. 2 of my other friends that were hyped didn't get it either, because of price, cord, & backwards compatibility. So, just in my tiny circle. That's 3 users that didn't buy in due to those things you listed as not real reasons. I do agree VR is the main reason though, but they compounded the failure with the price / lack of features / games.
Same here, was going to buy it but I knew as soon as they revealed the price it was DOA so I didn't buy it, no point in buying into a dead platform.
There's not enough expendable time for the average person to commit their complete attention to vr gaming. Many of us come home tired from work and just want to game for a little bit between real life responsibilities before going to bed and doing it over again. Many of us need to be able to pause in case something in the household pops up and needs attention. VR is for people with an abundance of time and can lock themselves away for a while without worry. I think Sony really miscalculated the amount of people vr would be convenient for.
VR is highly niche. Apple will be learning this soon too.
Well Apple is going for a more MR experience.
except Meta Quest is doing well, they're always on the top selling on Amazon and Batman Arkham Shadow is releasing on Quest 3.
last year Quest 2 outsold Xbox and they're planning on releasing a cheaper version of Quest 3 to sell even more.
Psvr2 amd psvr 1 took over my Playstation 4 & 5 when they released. I play mine daily and hope they dont stop. VR is definitely a game changer for me and i dont even play flat games anymore. Behemonth is still in development and hopefully Killzone and Resistance can comeback and integrated PSVR2 support with the features the headset have
The conversation around PSVR2 is so challenging. I know it's not a big audience, but I think people just want to lean on negative narratives just for the sake of engagement. The PSVR2 library in a year, rivals anything that most consoles get. The amount of quality games are there. I do think there is a severe lack of marketing. Games like Hubris or Propagation are nowhere to be heard from and they are stellar games.
What Insomniac Studios game is being shown at 6:50 ? Thank you
Meta is willing to lose 3 billion a year supporting Quest. Sony cant compete with that.
nobody can. it is insane and won't last forever.
I agree with your sentiment here. There are a lot of great things on PSVR 2 and we're like a year and a half in. Though there should be more PC and Quest games available for it, for VR to really thrive it's too early for exclusives. The PSVR 2 is the middle point on quality and price I've been waiting for for so long, it's a shame the economy/gaming industry is in the state it's in when it did finally arrive (with studio closures and shareholder greed limiting development potential, and the economy limiting purchasing power of consumers (making VR a harder sell)). But there is a lot more there than people give it credit for, and way less patience or understanding on a lull in announcements compared to console gaming.
Ryan, you are one of the few people on this platform that do not oversimplify or dramatise when covering video games industry. Love your straight and non-entitled approach to covering these stories, keep it up!
Love the PSVR2. Pearls before swine.
No wonder every time I checked the store for new VR games there hasn’t been even one in over a year. I’d like my money back
PS VR2 costs $730 in my country...the games are like $50-$60 each on top of that...there's no way to justify that for myself. I'd love to try it though.
What could work for Sony is, if the Headset itself is profitable and the sales would increase once the PC support get's released
The overwhelming majority of people who crap on VR, have no idea what they're talking about. This comments section is a perfect example.
It depends on what you mean by "crap on". People talking about the price to games ratio are correct. I got PSVR1 on a huge 50% sale long after the platform was relevant. I experienced all of the must-play games like Astro Bot, Moss, Beat Saber, RE7 etc. Even then I never felt like me getting it 50% was a steal. It felt just right. Because as soon as you leave the AAA sphere, indie VR games simply could not achieve the same level of immersion for me. Now PSVR2 is basically triple the price of what I got PSVR1 for and with FAR fewer "must play" games so I could never imagine myself getting it in its current state and I believe a lot of people feel exactly like me. If I'm paying a premium for a gadget that depends on my already expensive console to run, I want premium experiences.
Once again, issue for me isn't what we've gotten but what we HAVEN'T gotten. Imo pretty much every first-party VR1 title should've been brought over day 1, or at least within year 1. I hope I am wrong and we get a surprise Astro Rescue Mission port this fall alongside the new game but it doesn't help your product when a metric ton of VR games are on your storefront and you can't play them on the premiere headset, ya know?
It’s a shame Sony didn’t learn anything from the Vita. It’s even more baffling considering the blueprint for the perfect VR ecosystem already exists (Oculus quest 2) and all they had to do was Playstation-ify it. Had the PSVR been standalone and had a lower price of entry, it would have been a huge success. Trying to convince people to spend 500 on a PS5, then 600 on a VR headset and removing backwards compatibility with PSVR1 games is some Sega 32x levels of shenanigans.
Guess they just like dipping their feet in the water and splash them around a little bit. Silly Sony!
No. That would be doing what Pico has done. It wouldn't work, just buy Quest 3. PSVR2 games look a lot better. The problem is that Sony makes no games for the PSVR2, nothing that would make people buy it.
I don't think it's a learning issue and to me it's not baffling. It's a question of limited studio resources. Sony currently needs all of its studios working on regular PS5 games. Otherwise they won't be able to compete with these Xbox + Bethesda + Activision showcases.
Also i think another issue is just the gaming industry is changing and i think companies are trying to make less but higher quality games just in general. Like trying to get away from games that are only good visuals and then suck otherwise....
Hybrid VR games is really where Sony should have focused on. GT7 and the RE games are the types of games that will sell units and it takes the risk out of limiting big budget games to a small userbase.
There's so many AA games out their that could have been given a VR mode like Alien Isolation and Stray for a relatively small investment.
Sony really dropped the ball by not focusing more in those types of games and being way to stingy on the marketing front.
This is what happened to the vita, sony gave up way too soon. They need to stick it out and make games. That’s what saves it.
The 3DS was killing the Vita and there was absolutely nothing Sony could do about it. They were right to abandon it before they lost even more money on it. VR has had nearly a decade to gain momentum and no one cares about it. It's way overpriced and VR2 isn't even compatible with VR1! You have to be a Sony fanboy to defend this $600 waste of time.
@@Great-Documentaries you have to be broke to think 600 dollars is a lot of money.
Problem is the headset is so bloody expensive. When you can get standalone headsets with more games and cheaper, there is no reason to pick up a psvr2
I feel like it's a vicious circle for VR in general right now. Software available doesn't justify the entry price to it (either on pc or ps5). I think people are interested and curious about VR, but then see what's available to play... and let's be honest, it's not great. So, I believe it is a matter of time, the tech will become cheaper, and developments will also improve gradually.
VR2 in particular, besides price, has another obvious issue, which is the non backwards compatibility with VR1 games. Personally was excited about getting VR2 as a non VR1 holder, even bought several VR1 games in advance of the official VR2 announcement. Then, got no compatibility and a price tag that felt too expensive given the circumstances (no backwards comp., more expensive than PS5 while being an accessory, doubts about how Sony was gonna treat it as they had quickly abandoned the literal VR2 predecessor...).
If someone is going to be giving up on the headset then they better provide some software to make the headset open source so people can buy software from Steam. MAKE IT BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE!!!!
So you guys need pc community to bail you out again
Not being able to play 3D VR media was a deal killer for me when comparing it to other VR headsets. It would have easily added a lot of value to the PSVR2.
I fully agree with your analysis of the issues with the PSVR2! I pre-ordered PS VR to because I was running off of the excitement. I felt from having such a wonderful experience with PSVR1. I’m sorry I did that. I really should’ve waited to see what kind of support Sony would give?The first iteration didn’t thrive because of major Sony support. It became amazing because of third-party game support. What I’m not understanding is why PS VR developers are not making games for every vr system! The entire industry needs all the support that it can get so should be made available for all systems not just one or two. I am so disappointed in my purchase. I’ve only played with the headset once or twice and have not touched it anymore! A serious waste of money!!! I erroneously assumed that that initial lineup that came out so strong was a precursor what was to come. But I failed to look at what the track record already was for the PS5. If the PS5 was having issues, I don’t know what made me think the VR system would fair any better I was just caught up in the excitement. I developed a close family from just one game in VR and assumed that that game would be just as amazing in VR2 but the developer dropped the ball and it’s just not as good and all of my friends are still playing on vr1. I know the long-term success of the gaming industry is bright, but I do fear that the next couple of years for the industry is gonna be rocky I don’t see any happy endings or pots of gold at the end of the gaming rainbow right now. I think the next couple of years are going to be rough especially for PlayStation first party games!!!!!
I wish Sony had put the money into further game development for the base console. I just don't think there is enough in VR- not enough ideas, not enough innovation. I still stand by the argument that the only true gem on my PSVR1 is the upgraded version of Rez! It is mind-blowing! It was already that on Dreamcast and PS3, but the PS4 version makes it even more so. Those are the sorts of things we should have been getting- almost arcade like experiences. But they didn't, and now we have Xbox fans and Switch fans claiming we've got nothin coming up (because they've forgotten their drought over the years while we've had Stellar Blade FF7Rebirth, etc. Games that have been truly spectacular!
I'am mainly a PSVR2 Player. I love the headset and the first year was incredible (RE 8 & 4, GT7, Synapse, Horizon and so much more). We still have and had some bangers this year but it's all third party.
I was convinced that I will get a PS5pro but if Sony did not announce something I want for my headset I will invest that money in a PC. It really depends what these two Games means. I really hoped that the Hybrid-Leaks a few years back where true. More flat games in VR is my dream. UEVR is not perfect but it is right now the closest thing to what I wish for.
I hoped that after Jim Ryan leaving things could be better, but this does not sound like it.
I still don't get why PSVR2 had such a bad reputation after the first year. I think Sony really tried but everyone hated on it anyway (looking at you Greg Miller 👀). With RE4 on Quest everyone loved it but with the Remake on PSVR2 so many people said "oh I played it half a year ago, why bother" even though that version is insane and one of the best VR things out right now. So Sony perhaps concluded that even trying does not move the needle... It sucks for me, but perhaps that's how the state of VR is right now.
Hated VR until I got psvr2. This is the place to be for new experiences whereas mainstream is regurgitating the same thing every year, the vr market is so experimental and unique at this stage in its life. You dont want to miss it if you like video games.
Doesn't surprise me. Sony abandoned the wonderful Vita pretty quickly. VR2 is great, but would sell more if they put out some good games for it. History repeats.
we should have got a sony handheld, not a vr
I said the same thing years ago. They should've invested in PSP2/Vita 2 than PSVR2. I think a new handheld would be in a better position than what PSVR2 is in now.
i agree Sony should have supported the PS Vita longer
Lack of backwards compatibility was the true nail in the coffin for it, plus no 3D Blu-ray support like there was on PSVR1 for home cinema fans.
I think VR needs to be cheap to make it accessible and widely adopted, the current price points for current VR headsets are just not great. Yes you get oled panels and a bunch of features but with certain headsets but you still need to invest a fortune in other hardware to make it work. Make it cheap to start with stick it out for a while and then increase the price once people have taken it aboard and sales are good. Right now no one wants to pay the silly prices to play a hand full of VR games.
I agree with you.. but then they shoot themselves in the foot by restricting the library (no bc for psvr1, no half life alyx, etc). They have control over issues like this.
Answering the title question. Yes. Next question please
Not being able to buy controllers directly from Sony or in a store makes me feel like Sony didn't want to release the PSVR2. The 2D interface matched up with mostly Quest ports, made me buy a Quest 3 and turned that into my daily driver.
If instead of throwing money on VR (or PS portal) we had a PSP2, Sony would be taking a good slice of that Switch money pie.
Jim Ryan did his miracles...
Great breakdown! 👍
One small point I’d make about the PC adapter is that while the various things like headset rumble, adaptive triggers, and eye-tracked foveated rendering won’t be available for PC games, I’m pretty sure that’s gonna be a case-by-case scenario.
I don’t think there will be anything precluding devs and modders from incorporating it, but all of those things are new to the PCVR space and so currently no/few games offer any of it.
But I think they could all work *IF* a dev or modder makes a point of adding those functionalities in to a particular title. At least that’s what I’m hearing from PC folk.
Regardless, even without those features the PSVR2 will be the least expensive OLED panel PC headset by leagues.
Just sayin. 🙂
It's expected but still disappointing. I bought day one both PSVR1 and PSVR2. It's the last time I will ever buy a peripheral from SONY. Sick of what they do to their customers, fans and partners that take the plunge. So many awesome games and imagine if they actually bothered...giving out PSVR2 games in Premium was a great idea but they should have started a long time ago, but this is what made me dust off the PSVR2. Having a blast with synth rider, mini golf and Saints and Sinners chapter 2 (still waiting to get a bucket seat and wheel for GT7, the reason I even got a PSVR2).
I just think its too damn expensive. $550 for the headset PLUS at least another $400 for the PS5, not to mention the games. It's like $1000 minimum to get into it
It sucks that they just dont release the kit that allows everything to be used. Its a great headset for the system and i feel could be greater on pc.
Eye toy demo booth was at all game stores and Tech Store here in Sweden, which made it easier to make a decision if it was worth buying. However i have yet to see 1 Demo booth for Psvr2.
And you kinda wanna try the Psvr2 before you buy, given its high price tag.
Sony charging $600 for a VR add on an another $500 for the console needed to play it on was a terrible business decision.
It’s $600??? Holy-
@@bluedash24$550 full price but it does go on sale too.
@@stevebob240tax on $550 brings it to $600.
Yep, it's expensive. But the alternative is to have a super cheap headset with crappy features that no one would enjoy after trying it once. Unfortunately good vr costs money.
@@bluedash24 Probably included the tax.
I really want to get a VR2 headset, still waiting for a price drop though, £500 for a headset is quite expensive.
Sony can make mistakes it’s OKAY to put blame on them every once in a while. 😂
yeah but if Microsoft makes a mistake or wrong decision Sony fans would tear them apart, Sony makes a mistake "Oh its okay mistakes happen
It would be awesome if they remastered some of the great series on ps3 in vr like Resistance, Killzone, Motorstorm, Warhawk/Starhawk,etc
I only hope that exclusive PSVR content comes to pc. VR is already very limited as it is I just want to be able to play resident evils in VR on my beast of a rig with high frame rates
No....
@@bobtom1495 don’t see why not? More people get to play the games and then integrating psvr 2 support on pc could help with sales.
The primary problem Wirt PRVR2 for me is price, then features and apps like youtube vr app amongst others.
Give me compelling software that is exclusive to VR, and you'll capture my interest. Whenever I hear people defend the PSVR2 game library, they always mention games that can be played without the headset. Like Horizon, Resident Evil, Gran Turismo, etc.
Where are the AAA games that can only be played on PSVR2?? I'm not buying the headset if I can play those games without one.
For the record, the Horizon game on PSVR 2 (Call of the Mountain) is a VR exclusive, not a port of any of the flat games. Honestly though a port would've been better, because even though Horizon Call of the Mountain is considered triple-A for VR, it's a much smaller more linear experience than the flat Horizon games. Still supposed to be good though.
But the reason is simple. VR is stuck in a vicious cycle. There aren't enough triple-A VR exclusives to sell a ton of headsets, and without a ton of VR players, companies can't justify the cost/resources necessary to make triple-A VR exclusives. If Sony spent 4 years and $200 million (an average schedule and budget for one of their triple-A flat games) on a PSVR 2 game, yes it would sell headsets, but it'd still only be one triple-A game. Most people won't buy hardware for one game, so it wouldn't sell enough to make back its production costs.
That's why VR players are excited for hybrid games like RE and GT7. It's currently the only way to experience true triple-A games in VR, since the cost of a VR port is much smaller than the cost of making a brand new triple-A VR exclusive. I agree though that exclusives would be a better selling point.
Also worth noting that playing games in VR is very different from playing them on a TV. You feel like you're really in the game's world. Makes a lot of games, especially horror, much more intense and amazing. Commercials and youtube trailers don't do it justice, you have to experience it yourself. I wish Sony would do public demos of PSVR 2 so more people could try it.
They shouldve got a half life alyx port at launch. It would at least give people a reason to buy one
I bought it because of Village. Alyx is Valve, it's possible that Valve doesn't want it on PSVR2.
They already have better games than alyx.
I enjoyed my psvr1 but held off on because I thought 1 didn't get enough support. Seeing 2 go this way makes me sad.
GT7 is a VR killer app beyond EVERYTHING ELSE in VR and that is it. Gonna get a used Quest 2 in a few months because jfc sideloading all those classic PC games over, so easily, gimme those umpteen hours of impending fun!
PSVR SUCKS. No one asked for it, let alone a second version. Waste of money and resources. They should spend money on PS3 emulation and remastering legacy games, etc
I loved PSVR 1. I held off on buying PSVR2 because the launch line up was weak and Call of the Mountain looked like other half baked experiences. Farpoint was a kind blowing experience and I can't believe they didn't make a sequel. It would have pushed me over the edge to buy a headset.
To get people to buy a PSVR it needs to be cheap. Nobody wants to spend $500 on a console then $500 for an add on. The vr should be $200 and I have not even talked about game prices as well which factor in.
Luckily VR games are really cheap
That makes no sense im sorry
Sony doesn’t make money from selling hardware.
You think a vr headset WITH 2 controllers could be designed, manufactured, marketed, and sold for $200 when inflation is still near an all time high… sure, ok.
@@snipinpixihunter I’m saying that Sony needs to find a way to make it cheap maybe making a cheaper model. Casuals are not going to spend over $500 for a vr headset
@@codean909 they could take a loss to get the headset into homes because no one is buying it anyways so they could take a loss on hardware then make that money through game sales.
Sony needs to get the racing games to support VR as that’s where I feel a lot of VR buyers play. On PC F1 games and ACC both support VR but not on PS5.
I’m
More pissed that Insomiac vr games haven’t came over They made great vr games
they looked at the sales of the headset and the hardware and said
"nah, lets cut this right now and CONCENTRATE on games our customers WILL play!!"
so now hopefully they will set that money aside for what REALLY matters to gamers... a NEW psvita and MORE NEW GAMES!!!!
(at least I can wish, lol)
All these doom and gloom articles about psvr2.. based off one guys article whom doesn't even like psvr2 and prefers meta.. I think that's ridiculous, especially considering how the piece reads. Conversely, Sony should permanently drop price immediately and create bundle offers to drive sales. Outside of PSP, they have a poor track record in regards to suppot of their peripherals and accessories.
Capcom seemed to be the only developer that got it right! Sony did gran turismo with the 2 modes.
I was gonna buy the VR2 during that sale but I decided not to since Sony seems to have abandoned support for it. It's a shame since it seems to be really amazing hardware! If Sony starts supporting it more I'd be willing to purchase one for myself.
Look how popular Pokemon Go was. Thats mixed reality and the world loved it.
I think eventually we will all be wanting to run around wearing ray ban style glasses shooting virtual zombies and aliens in the real world aswell as VR or doing desktop computing in them with several screens without needing monitors but to get to that stage more people need to buy into VR i.e. PSVR2, Quest 3 & Apple Vision Pro so the development gets quicker. Its happening but its a slow process.
Always been interested in the PSVR but after seeing the first one not have any relevant games worth buying and also having the PSVR2 not having backwards compatibility right away i was like nah i don'twant it
EVERY racing game on ps5 should been VR supported especially the F1 games, that would move units.. how do they not see the potential!?
So I think the analysis surrounding the PC adapter is straight up incorrect.
It turns out that MOST VR media is created by creators, and a LARGE portion of that media use Quest 2/Quest 3 as a means of showing PCVR content. This means that Quest gets PR EVERY time this is done, showing off the hottest games in high fidelity.
When we see UEVR mods, you're almost ALWAYS watching somebody playing a Quest 3.
PSVR2 having a PC adapter buys Sony a HUGE amount of exposure for the PSVR2.
I’m really hoping this will turn the tide for the better for the Psvr2
@@universal3024it’s probably a way for Sony to clear out unsold inventory.
Wasn't there a story that flat2vr was hired by Sony to convert existing ps games to vr?
I think this is a really well put together video. As someone who owns a psvr2, I’ve been wondering if my purchase was worth it recently. Ultimately, I think it was, because I look at something like the quest 3, where there may be MORE games, but not some of my favorites like Resi 8 or 4, NMS, and I’m excited to try Madison. Well done, I’m excited to see VR take off. I don’t know if it’ll be this gen, but maybe next.
Ignore the article, it’s just trying to push Quest
They've made a great product in my opinion. The problem is the content. Besides a few hits, the other games seems a bit half assed in terms of pushing the graphics to their full potential.
Fun fact: PS5 doesn’t support 3D Blu-ray so you can’t even use PSVR2 to watch 3D movies like you can with the PSVR1 and PS4.
It not only lacks game content but content across the board.
Honestly there are some very fun looking games for PSVR2, but the one time I tried a VR headset I got motion sickness for hours afterwards so I'm tentative to spend $500 for a console I can't really use properly
Man I love my VR2, no regrets here.
PSVR2 players don't need completely bespoke games like Call of the Mountain. How about a little more hybrid support for PS5 games already out there or in development?
Modders are pulling this off in weeks. Granted these are achieved through brute force, but that's why ETFR is part of the hardware spec. But I don't think the cost of adding VR support to Flat games(like RE8, RE4) is going to be lost cost.
The reality is that Sony's own PS Studios don't have VR development knowledge to supply the market with blockbuster games like they do flat games. VR is like a reset, therefore relying on 3rd party and indy developers like they did with PS1 and PS2.
Maybe if they put call of the mountain on disk I would of bought it