i watch so many reviewers on youtube on new sim parts from so many different manufacturers and while there are so many good reviewers out there, you are definitely the most honest, knowledgeable and detailed reviewer i've watched so far. and your knowledge in tech really makes me believe that you know what you're talking about. thank you for doing what you do! i hope to see more videos from you! 😄
Awesome initial review! These look so similar to the Logitech G Pro Pedals. Wonder if you tried those yet and if so how do they compare. We're in the Golden Age of sim racing, been holding off into getting locked in a ecosystem. Your videos has been super helpful in my research. Keep up the great work and hopefully more companies can send you more products to review.
Thank for watching, John and I agree with your comment. We are truly in the golden age of sim-racing. I haven’t gotten an opportunity to try the G pro pedals yet, but I hope that changes soon!
Thank you for another great detailed review… I have 2 questions if you can answer regarding these pedals!!! 1. What is day one kit ( I have asked it so many times on Simagic’s official channel and pages, but no response) 2. What are the dimensions of the springs in each pedal if someone would want to replace them with harder springs to limit the travel and applying more force on the load cell!!! Thanks in advance
I'm glad you enjoyed the review. 1 - It's just a slogan for an entry level pedal set (Simagic confirmed) 2 - The length of all springs are 2-2.1 inches, and the outer circumference is 3 inches.
@@darthsnape thank you for responding, I really appreciate it… Now another question comes to my mind is while looking at the shaft (moving part within the cylinder) and the elastomer, they seam to have some part of it that comes in contact with Load cell. If a crackhead like me wants to replace the springs, do they have to have any specific internal diameter for clearance? I believe this could be a limitation while planing some DIY spring replacements…
@Alvs.camplinen I’m unable to measure it because I cannot reach it. However, the area which comes in contact is 2 inches (circumference) or slightly less than that. Which would be roughly the internal circumference of the spring.
@@darthsnape thank you for trying… Will be waiting for more of your videos… Your reviews are full of information which is not provided by majority of other reviewers (even compared to the well established channels). Being a very technical and critical thinker myself, I enjoy your content… Please keep it up and do not change the format… Cheers 🍻
Have you tested Moza SR-P pedals to compare them with the P500? Moza fixed the soft and long travel of SR-P with the brake kit and I think Simagic will launch their own brake kit with more springs and damper block to use thr 100kg load cell better. Because It seems a big mistake that Simagic damper/washer does not affect until the last 30-40% brake travel. Perhaps it is a compromise for desk users. Because you can't have a stiff brake and floor use.
Agreed. It is a bit of an issue for desk users. And I did try the SRP, though not extensively. I was not a big fan of the throttle. But it is better for desk users.
Thanks for your review, would you recommend getting this set or should I stick to my T-LCM (3 years+)? The only thing I've done to my set is swap out a red spring for 3pcs of rubber dampeners & washers to keep them separated.
If the haptics are something which interests you, I’d say they alone would be a great reason to upgrade. Aside from that, if you find T-LCM’s throttle and clutch a bit weak, these new pedals will be able to solve the issue as extra springs come in the box. Also, the brakes are better.
Buy a set of simsonn or simjack pedals instead. Ive owned my t-lcm's for over a year and ive just ordered the simsonn pedals today, they are basically less fleshed out heusinkveld sprint's for the price of a new set of t-lcm's. I'll probably sell my t-lcm's once the new pedals are all set up so its basically a free upgrade
200 just for two pedqls. Me i like travle I have my p1000s set up with travle. I'm 10x better at trail braking that way and so so consistent. Just need to adapt for a week and the results speak for themslves 😉 so these are awesome imo for people who like travel on the brake. Im so happy somagic knows real brakes arent brick walls either. Ive driven a bmw gt3 a modern one and they have travel! They even have some mush from the liquid in the hydraulics. You can feel it and it goes in much deeper then people think. I think what happened is a brand said a sim pedql was realsitic as a sales pitch and the community manus ended up jumping on the bandwagon yet im sry f1 pedqls are brick walls but gt3 and gt4 cars are not. They have amazing travel and im so happy to see that brands are starting to realize it. Even the simucube active pedals there pro gt3 driver made a preset and it has travel! Lol guys i challenge you to add some travel in your pedals practice for 1 week and watch the results show for themselves. It helps tremendously for trail braking. This pedql set will shock peoole if they get used to it showing what im saying. Yes these have a little to much travel but imo better then brick walls. On my p1000s i use either the red and yellow spring together or the blue and yellow. Just enough throw to do long trail braking with ease.
The pricing is really solid alongside everything else. The lateral movement of pedals was my main area of improvement; Not that I have had any issues with the pre-existing spacing. I’m glad P500 got the spacing and lateral movement right. And I agree with the travel. I find long travel super beneficial on rally and short travel beneficial on track racing. Either way, the travel is great for a lot of people and beginners. Imo, it’s a solid entry from Simagic.
I wonder which pedals are better, the Simagic P500 or the Fanatec CSL Elite V2? Got the latter for 200€ + delivery last year. However for personal reasons i wasn't able to use them yet.
There will always be newer and better gear out there. If you haven’t had the chance to use your CSL Elite V2 yet, I’d suggest giving it a try first. You can always upgrade later, but enjoying the experience is what truly matters. And to answer your question, CSL elite V2 is a solid contender as well. I’d say it can go either way in terms of functionality.
On desk (floor) this P500 are better because the softer brake. On rig/cockpit the CSL V2 brake is better (stiffer) but unusable on desk or wheelstand with office chair. Just buy simagic haptics and adapter to your Fanatec pedals.
I have TLCMs after I was fighting HE Sprints LOL (I simply didnt like them in any way except build quality) and now looking at those they do look like good upgrade but TLCMs feel so freaking natural and like irl car I just need to get those vibrators LOL
Actually, you know what, something similar happened to me as well. I have been using my Sprints for about one and a half year, upgraded from T-LCM just like you. I enjoyed using them and when switched to P500 for review, I absolutely fell in love with how little effort I had to put in compared to Sprints.
@@darthsnape Exactly XD I prefer more comfort than realism since I have never nor do I plan to drive GT3 car BUT to have realistic feel like in my A1 is important :) great since you already told me on Reddit that I need pwr adapter for haptics, I will get those and then wait till Mini with gts wheel is in stock somewhere LOL
@@Miguel-th3wx yeah was thinking the same but those have more upgrade potential down the road and swapping springs and mods is much easier… hmmm I am between p500 and P1000 atm but honestly looking at some long therm solution and of course upgrades down the road
If haptics interest you, absolutely 👍🏼 Plus the brake is better. Throttle and clutch can have more resistance based on the spring, as there are more choices available.
The $300 category can give out a bit of toy like image. But for similar price, Simjack UT can be a good set too. I’ve heard some good stuff about those.
@@darthsnape Yeah and I heard some pretty bad stuff too. Soft steel, thin plates, bad tolerances, buggy software and elastomers which fall apart after a while. The only pedal set in this price range that I would recommend are the CSL Elite V2 without the clutch pedal.
P500 or P750?
@@darthsnape p750 does indeed sound interesting maybe a budget way to upgrade to p1000
i watch so many reviewers on youtube on new sim parts from so many different manufacturers and while there are so many good reviewers out there, you are definitely the most honest, knowledgeable and detailed reviewer i've watched so far. and your knowledge in tech really makes me believe that you know what you're talking about. thank you for doing what you do! i hope to see more videos from you! 😄
Thank you for your kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed this video. More to come!
OMG I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THISSSS
Same! What an amazing entry for this price.
Your videos look amazing these days, well done!
Thank you
Love the level of detailing you go in this review. Subscribed!
Thank you very much! 💪🏼
Awesome initial review! These look so similar to the Logitech G Pro Pedals. Wonder if you tried those yet and if so how do they compare. We're in the Golden Age of sim racing, been holding off into getting locked in a ecosystem. Your videos has been super helpful in my research. Keep up the great work and hopefully more companies can send you more products to review.
Thank for watching, John and I agree with your comment. We are truly in the golden age of sim-racing. I haven’t gotten an opportunity to try the G pro pedals yet, but I hope that changes soon!
Excellent review as usual
Thanks buddy. I’m glad you liked it!
Thank you for another great detailed review…
I have 2 questions if you can answer regarding these pedals!!!
1. What is day one kit ( I have asked it so many times on Simagic’s official channel and pages, but no response)
2. What are the dimensions of the springs in each pedal if someone would want to replace them with harder springs to limit the travel and applying more force on the load cell!!!
Thanks in advance
I'm glad you enjoyed the review.
1 - It's just a slogan for an entry level pedal set (Simagic confirmed)
2 - The length of all springs are 2-2.1 inches, and the outer circumference is 3 inches.
@@darthsnape thank you for responding, I really appreciate it…
Now another question comes to my mind is while looking at the shaft (moving part within the cylinder) and the elastomer, they seam to have some part of it that comes in contact with Load cell.
If a crackhead like me wants to replace the springs, do they have to have any specific internal diameter for clearance?
I believe this could be a limitation while planing some DIY spring replacements…
@Alvs.camplinen I’m unable to measure it because I cannot reach it. However, the area which comes in contact is 2 inches (circumference) or slightly less than that. Which would be roughly the internal circumference of the spring.
@@darthsnape thank you for trying…
Will be waiting for more of your videos…
Your reviews are full of information which is not provided by majority of other reviewers (even compared to the well established channels).
Being a very technical and critical thinker myself, I enjoy your content…
Please keep it up and do not change the format…
Cheers 🍻
Have you tested Moza SR-P pedals to compare them with the P500? Moza fixed the soft and long travel of SR-P with the brake kit and I think Simagic will launch their own brake kit with more springs and damper block to use thr 100kg load cell better. Because It seems a big mistake that Simagic damper/washer does not affect until the last 30-40% brake travel. Perhaps it is a compromise for desk users. Because you can't have a stiff brake and floor use.
Agreed. It is a bit of an issue for desk users. And I did try the SRP, though not extensively. I was not a big fan of the throttle. But it is better for desk users.
Thanks for your review, would you recommend getting this set or should I stick to my T-LCM (3 years+)? The only thing I've done to my set is swap out a red spring for 3pcs of rubber dampeners & washers to keep them separated.
If the haptics are something which interests you, I’d say they alone would be a great reason to upgrade. Aside from that, if you find T-LCM’s throttle and clutch a bit weak, these new pedals will be able to solve the issue as extra springs come in the box. Also, the brakes are better.
Buy a set of simsonn or simjack pedals instead. Ive owned my t-lcm's for over a year and ive just ordered the simsonn pedals today, they are basically less fleshed out heusinkveld sprint's for the price of a new set of t-lcm's. I'll probably sell my t-lcm's once the new pedals are all set up so its basically a free upgrade
They look sumptuous!😊
That they do!
200 just for two pedqls. Me i like travle I have my p1000s set up with travle. I'm 10x better at trail braking that way and so so consistent. Just need to adapt for a week and the results speak for themslves 😉 so these are awesome imo for people who like travel on the brake.
Im so happy somagic knows real brakes arent brick walls either. Ive driven a bmw gt3 a modern one and they have travel! They even have some mush from the liquid in the hydraulics. You can feel it and it goes in much deeper then people think.
I think what happened is a brand said a sim pedql was realsitic as a sales pitch and the community manus ended up jumping on the bandwagon yet im sry f1 pedqls are brick walls but gt3 and gt4 cars are not. They have amazing travel and im so happy to see that brands are starting to realize it. Even the simucube active pedals there pro gt3 driver made a preset and it has travel! Lol guys i challenge you to add some travel in your pedals practice for 1 week and watch the results show for themselves. It helps tremendously for trail braking. This pedql set will shock peoole if they get used to it showing what im saying. Yes these have a little to much travel but imo better then brick walls.
On my p1000s i use either the red and yellow spring together or the blue and yellow. Just enough throw to do long trail braking with ease.
The pricing is really solid alongside everything else. The lateral movement of pedals was my main area of improvement; Not that I have had any issues with the pre-existing spacing.
I’m glad P500 got the spacing and lateral movement right. And I agree with the travel. I find long travel super beneficial on rally and short travel beneficial on track racing. Either way, the travel is great for a lot of people and beginners. Imo, it’s a solid entry from Simagic.
I wonder which pedals are better, the Simagic P500 or the Fanatec CSL Elite V2?
Got the latter for 200€ + delivery last year. However for personal reasons i wasn't able to use them yet.
There will always be newer and better gear out there. If you haven’t had the chance to use your CSL Elite V2 yet, I’d suggest giving it a try first. You can always upgrade later, but enjoying the experience is what truly matters.
And to answer your question, CSL elite V2 is a solid contender as well. I’d say it can go either way in terms of functionality.
On desk (floor) this P500 are better because the softer brake. On rig/cockpit the CSL V2 brake is better (stiffer) but unusable on desk or wheelstand with office chair. Just buy simagic haptics and adapter to your Fanatec pedals.
was there like any info on how hard the springs are for the brake? like anything compareable to the TLCM springs?
Unfortunately no info on how hard the springs are. But after testing, they are better than T-LCM springs.
@@darthsnape i see. thanks! :)
Is the P500 pedal recognized by the sigma converter and available on ps5?
I asked the team regarding compatibility and they said - "software for the Sigma is always playing catchup to SimPro, so maybe not atm, but will be"
@@darthsnape Thank you. Have a nice day!
I have TLCMs after I was fighting HE Sprints LOL (I simply didnt like them in any way except build quality) and now looking at those they do look like good upgrade but TLCMs feel so freaking natural and like irl car I just need to get those vibrators LOL
Actually, you know what, something similar happened to me as well. I have been using my Sprints for about one and a half year, upgraded from T-LCM just like you. I enjoyed using them and when switched to P500 for review, I absolutely fell in love with how little effort I had to put in compared to Sprints.
@@darthsnape Exactly XD I prefer more comfort than realism since I have never nor do I plan to drive GT3 car BUT to have realistic feel like in my A1 is important :) great since you already told me on Reddit that I need pwr adapter for haptics, I will get those and then wait till Mini with gts wheel is in stock somewhere LOL
get a 3d adapted part or any bracket, and mount the haptics to the TLCM
@@Miguel-th3wx yeah was thinking the same but those have more upgrade potential down the road and swapping springs and mods is much easier… hmmm I am between p500 and P1000 atm but honestly looking at some long therm solution and of course upgrades down the road
If I add rumble motors do I need also order power adapter for it? Probably not included with pedals? Thank you
Yes, I believe the power supply needs to be bought separately. Not included with the pedals.
T-lcm 사용중인데 p500으로 바꾸는 메리트가 있을까요?
If haptics interest you, absolutely 👍🏼
Plus the brake is better. Throttle and clutch can have more resistance based on the spring, as there are more choices available.
@@darthsnape thank you!
I don’t know why I watch these reviews knowing damn well I have console… 🤦🏻♂️
Tell you what, you continue to catch up on these things, while I think about making some content on console supported gear. 😉
What a joke. Before spending anything on this toy pedals, keep what you already have and save up for a decent set.
there's always one ain't there....
The $300 category can give out a bit of toy like image. But for similar price, Simjack UT can be a good set too. I’ve heard some good stuff about those.
@@darthsnape Yeah and I heard some pretty bad stuff too. Soft steel, thin plates, bad tolerances, buggy software and elastomers which fall apart after a while. The only pedal set in this price range that I would recommend are the CSL Elite V2 without the clutch pedal.
Oh they are one of the finest in the price range, plus have been around for quite a while now.