As a german i can't understand why it's so hard to accept your gruesom history. It's not your fault it happened but it's your fault if you let it happen again. No need to feel guilty for any of it, just accept that it happened and be on the watch for signs of history repeating.
I was taught the truth world history and American history. Am I horrified about it yes but I don't feel guilty. I wasn't even born then and I'm in my sixties. Teach the truth so it never happens again!
But at the end it's worth it. As a Spaniard born in the 1980's, when I think of Germany the Nazis and the 3rd Reich is way down in the list of things that come to my mind. Like, Mercedes, BMW, Volkswagen, beer, lederhosen, autobahn, ridiculously long words, sausages, Xuxa's song about wanting German bread... Had Germany gone the American route I doubt that would be the case.
I think it's because the people against it are either racists or have ingrained racist-like thought patterns in the sense that, if racism is a certain version of taking one subset and applying it to the whole without considering if it truly fits any individual or even the whole, then the people with this thought pattern believe "If Americans hear people in their country was racist at one point then they believe everybody is racist and that can't be true" so they take steps to blot it out. That or they believe THOSE were the "good ol' days".
An Australian lady once told me "They can't blame you for what your ancestors did - but if you make the same mistakes you're doubly guilty, because you had a chance to learn". RIP Aunty Maureen.
"If the German people can teach THEIR history honestly and authentically, the US should be able to" Let me help: "If the German people can teach THEIR history honestly and authentically, then US must also do this" Including the times we sided with 'NAZI's" recently, and from the beginning how we didn't accept "all of the People" "No more 3/5 of a citizen", No more "all rights reserved for ...", "No more (insert Race) exclusion acts",
@@adjoint_functor Lets See, start with fokls like Henry Ford, who like the idea that the Factory owners got all the rights. That was his ideal, and he sent American Workers over to Hiltler in the beginning. America itself was home to the NAZI's and Fellow Travelers front Group. Irony is the Communist party worked 20 years, and helped to get the legislation passed for the new deal, including U.I. and Welfare. In the mid west there were multiple "Brown Shirts Movement" here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Legion_of_America The Silver Legion of America, commonly known as the Silver Shirts, was an underground American fascist and Nazi sympathizer organization founded by William Dudley Pelley and headquartered in Asheville, North Carolina.[17] Then at the end of the war, many 'Valuable German NAZI's were converted to 'American Citizens, and given jobs in Government and Society. How Thousands Of Nazis Were 'Rewarded' With Life In The U.S. In the early '70s, New York Rep. Elizabeth Holtzman received a confidential tip that American immigration authorities knew of dozens of former Nazis - some implicated in serious war crimes - who were living in the U.S. Holtzman looked into it and discovered that it was true, and that the formerly named Immigration and Naturalization Service wasn't doing much about it. But that was just the tip of the iceberg, according to investigative reporter Eric Lichtblau. In his new book, The Nazis Next Door, Lichtblau reports that thousands of Nazis managed to settle in the United States after World War II, often with the direct assistance of American intelligence officials who saw them as potential spies and informants in the Cold War against the Soviet Union. Thats for starters Look up em, Use em, Wear em out. Discard all used NAZI in the appropriate 'toxic waste bin'. :)
And we Germans still have a long way to go. We got the Nazi history part quite well for a time, but with the last survivors now dying of old age, vivid social memory becomes more of a challenge. It is easy to fall into complacency and "back door mythologization". History is a constant challenge. It's a constant societal task. It is never achieved to be kept. It always has to fought for anew in every generation. It's also what makes us grownups in an enlightened society.
And this is why I taught my children the truth about slavery, the massacres of Native Americans, the Holocaust etc. My children and I are doing the same with the grandchildren. They need to know that the worst monsters are human to not become one themselves.
You will be getting exactly what you deserve if your great grandchildren have to live in tents, eat dog, never learn to read or write and go without medical care and eyeglasses.
"We don't want children to learn the truth because it will make them feel bad!" Also, "Participation prizes to stop children from feeling bad makes them weak!"
It's not about the kids (our society doesn't care about the kids) It's about the kids learning something which will make them question their elders and the historical figures THEY revere.
@@bel-amimargoles1209 funny you should say that because I'm fairly sure the demographic supporting this change likely heavily overlaps with the one that often supports "questioning" or "just asking questions"
Teaching Fake not FACTS! And turning kids into SNOWFLAKES who can’t stand to be offended. We are teaching kids to think their people have always been the good guys. Look at where we are now, because many of those GOP folks making these decisions were taught the Lost Cause and that’s the problem!
See and that's a falsehood. It's not about their kids feelings, it's about not allowing their kid or grandkids to know exactly how great grandpa, grandpa, and dad acted in the past. I'm 43yrs old, the Tuskegee experiments ended just 6 yrs before I was born, that puts my parents into Jim Crow and segregation. My grandmother was born the same year Tulsa was burned.
@@TheDarkOneAOX1 And they need to know this as well, because they have no ideal how much Blacks contributed to the foundation of this country. They would be absolutely surprised! For example, Tom Cotton and other GOP politicians wanted to give White males only, some type of recognition, because they felt they deserved honor more than anybody else, because they felt they were the only reason this country is one of the richest nations and why it has thrived! And they want to keep it that way, otherwise their feelings will be hurt and offended!!
All of conservativism is cruel optimisms. Flights away from cognitive dissonance that just alienate themselves from the world around them, drive them further from reality and cause more cognitive dissonance.
For all of conservatives’ whining about liberals’ use of “soft language”, they only oppose “soft language” when it’s being used to be kind to others. They love “soft language” when it’s used to cover up uncomfortable history
So I'm in this FB group about Finland because I happen to live there. Turns out, most of the members are Americans that don't speak Finnish nor have ever been outside the US calling themseves "Finns" because of their grand-grand-grand parents. We have many Republicans in the group with their usual yapping; "f'ck Biden! Boo-hoo, communism! Boo-hoo, wokeism!" You know, the pack at full. Seriously, they CANNOT take the smallest criticism of Trump. One of them told me _"I won't let you insult my President! How would you like if I insulted yours?"_ (to which I replied to go ahead since I'm not in love with my political representatives). Damned me if that's not a cult.
Why are we keeping saying they.... Who exactly are the people what want this country to turn into third world to benefit they. Just tell history like it was bad and good. Why are these "they" trying to brainwash the young people, lie to believe everything was super awesome, oh, there was no such thing as slavery. The odd thing, when slavery was relevant they were trying to write more history, laws to create harsh legalize slavery and treatment of people who aren't "they". So, are we going to change terms/history on who really were heroes. It seems as "they" want to apear in history as if thousands of people, got on boats and travel; to beg and plead to be under a whip, or be hug, spit on, called not even human or told to stay in your place because of just evil.....that is crazy
@@danielr.y5261 Thank you, Daniel. I always appreciate your voice. IIRC, you're from Spain? I'm an American in France. I don't mind criticizing my 'better than a kick in the head' President Biden. He certainly deserves it.
Calling slavery "involuntary relocation" is like calling a multiple homicide "carpet damage". I mean, yeah sure, that carpet is probably done but most people would be more concerned with all the corpses ...
Which is why the Republicans are not paying public school teachers, and they are quitting in droves. The agenda is to have people pay tuition for private schools. Poor people won't be taught at all.
for sure, I agree, Max had some good points, and also some goofy ass ideas, here's goofy one lol (no reason for sharing except I just got done reading about em) "Virtue, without which terror is destructive; terror, without which virtue is impotent. Terror is only justice prompt, severe and inflexible; it is then an emanation of virtue.” - Max Robespierre
Euphemisms don't make things right. I taught my son kindergarten during the pandemic, and lessons on Christopher Columbus and Thomas Jefferson were a few examples of where I had to tell my son the truth. When I taught him about slavery, he cried, and asked why anyone would do that. I want my son to be educated and know the truth. It is up to us as parents to be aware of what our children are being told in school. The truth is there, and we would be doing our children a great disservice by not making them aware of it.
I’ve always done the same thing with my daughter. She is now a MP in the Army and helping to lead the women in her command to speak their minds. I’m so proud of her.
I wish ours was taught realistically. It makes no sense, because the previous administration literally tried to pull us into fascism. The children of this country need to know our past, because most of their parents don't remember what happened in Germany. We've actually got Holocaust deniers! But if our children are not taught appropriately, they will be much more likely to let that happen to them.
@@paulleverton9569 Would you like some other group unilaterally making decisions for YOU that they "knew" were in your best interest - in their opinion of course?
@@BobSouthwell If I was wondering around the outback, naked, peeling bark off trees to find grubs to eat, I'd be very happy for any group to provide a civilized and prosperous society. But I'm English so I was already born at the top of the food chain. If you suspect Australians have independence I suggest you read about Gough Whitlam. It takes a phone call from Whitehall to override the wishes of the Australian electorate.
When my son was six he was nearby when I read my husband an article written by a native American about the problem with Columbus day . The article was very thorough about the crimes that were perpetrated on women and children . I had no idea my son had heard and processed everything . Columbus day rolled around and my son had quite a bit to say to his first grade teacher and classmates . He began with the sentence " Christopher Columbus is NOT a hero " . And then he got specific . Lol.
If you ever saw the Adams Family movie, where Wednesday tells them the real story about "Thanksgiving" at summer camp, it's one of my favourite scenes from any movie.
While referring to a different point in history, these comments by Rod Serling seemed on point. "All the Dachaus must remain standing. The Dachaus, the Belsens, the Buchenwalds, the Auschwitzes -all of them. They must remain standing because they are a monument to a moment in time when some men decided to turn the earth into a graveyard, into it they shoveled all of their reason, their logic, their knowledge, but worst of all their conscience. And the moment we forget this, the moment we cease to be haunted by its rememberance. Then we become the grave diggers."
The point about monuments is an excellent one. There's one group of people who want monuments that will make an impact and teach lessons about the things that shouldn't ever be repeated; there's another that will fight tooth and nail to keep statues of slavers and genocidal maniacs standing, to allow them to lionize the monsters of the past that they truly identify with. As Beau says, history vs mythology.
It's a shame then, that some clowns like madison cawthorne thought going to Auschwitz was his "dream vacation". Some people want it like this, they love and thrive off hate and chaos.
An Eisenhower quote often read at Yom HaShoah observances is similar: “The things I saw beggar description. The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering as to leave me a bit sick ... . I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to ‘propaganda.’”
Well, if discussion of the slave trade doesn't indicate that it has always been....'unstable,' then I don't know what does, but we are definitely growing more aware.
Every year when my freshmen students would inevitably ask, “Why do I need to know this stuff [science, math]?” I would always reply: “It is my job to increase your potential as a human. You are still young and probably can’t yet even imagine where your life might take you. But even more importantly, I hope to prevent you from being taken advantage of by politicians and others who would use your lack of knowledge to their benefit.” The amount of knowing nods I got in response…kids are incredibly intelligent and tech savvy. Good luck keeping the truth from them. 😏
it's funny. 40 years ago, I was asking, "when am I going to be doing math with letters in real life?" and now I do math with letters on a pretty regular basis.
Facing History is so hard because human have a to tendency to forget their own family history past one or two creations 30 to 60 years. We know our experience and some of our parents history if we are lucky. Our grands history is priceless but never our 2 or 3 fathers(that's about 1797 - 1820 for me). If we go t #4 we are right before the revolution, then i go even further to our 5-6 7 fathers we are in the 1600 to late 1500's our first ancestors that here boat. By then we realize what we had we thought were & all about today was all wrong. All Americans, needs to Face History and see who each and everyone of us really are because we are not the stereotype people we think we are. Face history and be free
The problem of their existence reached its "final solution". This kind of eufemism isn't new, nor limited to America. And that's the kind of mindset they're aligning with.
The Daughters of the Confederacy had a plaque attached to a large rock that has historical roots in the county seat where I live. The plaque was removed in the 70s and the rock moved. Well, they found both and have a big celebration to rejoin them and replace the rock in an open viewing spot. This is a very RED county along the Oh/MI border.
Maybe even use the term chattel slavery to really drive home the point because just calling it slavery like it happened for most of humanity's history doesen't do it justice.
@@juckyvortex Chattel slavery would be more accurate. Mere slavery includes indentured servitude which was an acceptable form of financial contract in the history books.
@@walkerb9 yes, exactly. A lot of people try to dismiss the horrors of slavery by comparing it to indentured servitude, which was definitely bad, but not even close to chattel slavery. An indentured servant’s children couldn’t be bought and sold, and it was illegal to kill indentured servants.
All "school choice" really means is "I'm a wealthy Conservative who wants to send my kids to a private school where poor kids won't attend, and teachers won't teach things that I disagree with or feel uncomfortable about."
@PenitentDeadMan308 T Yes, the parent can choose ignorance, and wrapping their child in cotton batting. These are the Americans who are laughed at, when they know nothing about the world outside their doorstep.
Seriously, as a non-American I can tell you; most Americans don't know to which extent they've been brainwashed. If they truly knew they'd fall on their asses, because it's not that different from what Russia's government does to its people. The amount of *mithology* they spout when talking about basic history is mindblowing. Like, they believe USA "won" both World Wars, or that the Party Switch and the Southern Strategy didn't happen (some don't EVEN know ot was a thing). USA scares me. And I don't even live there.
In school in Arizona, I was taught about the myths Paul Bunyan and Pecos Bill. But I was not taught about the Navajo being taken from their homes and forced to walk to Bosque Redondo, New Mexico. A journey of several hundred miles which killed about a third of the Tribe. I learned about what whites did, by witnessing the white apartheid on the Navajo Reservation in the 1960s - 1970ss. Then being told personal stories by my Diné friends elders. It is shameful how much of the truth of US history is suppressed.
@@williampyle8635 yes, my Grandmother was Cherokee she told us about the Long Walk. Her mother and aunties walked. A lot of people don't realize this, some of the Cherokee that were taken and put on the Long Walk; many were the ones that owned plantations and slaves. The whites wanted their lands. Because these Cherokee were trying assimilate with whites, they were dressed as whites. The women dressed as whites made the walk in their button up shoes. This is what my Grandmother told me. But I was not taught about the Cherokee either.
Yes,,,and who did it to the American Indians ?? Govt,,,who broke Laramie Treaty of 1851 ?? Govt . Who broke 1868 Treaty ?? Govt. Who disarmed them, then murdered them with Gattling Guns ?? Govt. Who told Black Kettle to surrender at Sand Creek and put a American flag and White Flag outside your tipee so you will Not be attacked ??Govt,, then they massacred them,,mainly Women and Children. Black Kettle was on the Washita on Indian Land in OK,, Custer and the 7th massacred them anyway,, mainly women and Children,,,,,,Govt. Wounded knee,,Indians were doing a Ghost Dance,, this made GOVT mad,,, so they Massacred them.............sure, the GOVT is here to help
Yep. That's my favorite retort to anti choice, misogynistic, anti black, anti LGBTQ, Anti book, anti history, anti everything crowd. Freedom is about rights, not your feelings.
Growing up in Texas, this makes perfect sense: this was the same place where I learned about how we 'freed' Texas from the Mexicans, and ZERO mention of that Juneteenth embarrassment.
It's an effort to whitewash history...literally. The purpose of teaching history should be to show us where we have been so we can continue to evolve forward.
I was assuming this was a prelude (on the part of the alt-white alt-Reich types) for cover to expel Black people from the USA. Treating them as some type of illegal immigrant basically.
Yeah, but that doesn't benefit people who want to de-evolve backwards. I used to think some of these folks wanted to move us back to the 1950's. At this point I'm beginning to wonder if it's the 1850's they're aiming for.
My kids' history teacher made no bones about her view that the purpose of her course IS to instill pride..... she is an awful teacher and person. What fills me with pride is the way my children challenged her.
Does any of it involve asking her why she feels the need to be so politically correct, or why she's trying turn kids into snowflakes? If she's conservative (which is what this definitely sounds like), I'd expect these accusations to hit hard.
This, as usual when I hear Beau speak on practically any topic, I think: "This is why I'm a Patreon supporter". I don't know of any more relatable and articulate champion for human decency and rational thought in contemporary discourse. Thank you Beau!
I wonder what would happen if, on the first day of school, history teachers explicitly told their classes "This is a list of topics the Government will not allow us to discuss. In keeping with that requirement, here is a supplementary list of books the Government insists that you not read, and websites the Government says you should never visit."
That's pretty much what I've told my grandsons. "If somebody bans a book, go right to your local public library and check it out." Public libraries are our best hope against official censorship.
@@susankerr9521 If it has already been removed from the libraries, go online and purchase some copies to read and lend/gift. Edit : Make SURE that Beau is at top of list of websites !
This is target they are shooting for, where by the people have no bearing of reality and therefore will believe everything that they are told and not understand they are going in the wrong direction. _______________________________________________________________ The result of a consistent and total substitution of lies for factual truth is not that the lies will now be accepted as truth, and the truth be defamed as lies, but that the sense by which we take our bearings in the real world - and the category of “truth vs. falsehood” is among the mental means to this end - is being destroyed. Hannah Arendt, “Truth and Politics,” The New Yorker, February 25, 1967.
Lynne Cheney, wife of Dick Cheney was on the board of Houghton-Mills in Texas. She was told that the history books were outdated and full of lies, so she sought out college professors to correct the wrongs in the history books. Two years later they came back with accurate, true history that highlighted the atrocities european-americans committed in this country. Lynne Cheney then refused the books and continued having the falsities of euro-american history. The professors then released their books on their own. One was Howard Zinn's "People's history of the United States". Another was "Lies my Teacher told me". Search them out if you want to know the true history of this country.☮💯
Thanks for sharing. I'm on it. I need to read it too. 70 years old and really served a whitewashed history here in Texas. Appalled at my ignorance and I have a teaching degree. Just not in history. I'm sure I'm not alone.
At age 7 or perhaps 8 my mom gave me the book Uncle Toms cabin I still remember how it saddened me to read that story. I am 70 years old now and I know that a lot of kids do not enjoy reading anymore but I think the story is still relevant,
Downplaying the how horrible it is, also makes people think that the struggles and plight of black people in our country is no big deal. The people that say, "everyone has equal opportunity, you just have to show up and work hard to make it happen for you."
Yep. They want to pretend things were less terrible, so they can pretend things are fine now & they won’t have to do any introspection or change their own attitudes/ behavior.
I'm glad that "involuntary relocation" BS got knocked down. When I first heard about it, I got so mad I talked to my Mom about it. She's a genealogist and she knows a lot about Texas history and its deceptions when it comes to slavery. The guy who brought up that stupid term was only perpetuating an enduring culture of lies and deceit.
Not sure what crime it would be and if you really wanted it to be a crime. When you start making things like this illegal you are engaging on the same level as Republicans banning CRT, in their mind legitimizing it. We have to win the messaging war online and locally.
@@JT96708 totally wrong. It is abuse of power in order to further the abuse or hate or otherwise diminish facts that would lead aforementioned outcomes.
As a history teacher, I think I am going to mention this phrase to the students and see if they can figure out if it is acceptable to use instead of slavery. And then I will watch a bunch of fourth graders realize that some people are absolutely insane to think that it ever could be. This is going to be great. Also, what the hell?
@@ShirleeKnott actually I meant, can they show Beau’s video in the class? But I’m pretty sure that’s a no-no. There’d be a lot of cranky parents i’m guessing. but hey, what the hell?
It's sadly funny how the same people who wanna look back to a "Good Ole Time" in their heads, wanna also pretty up those same "Good Ole Times" by hiding the truth... ALMOST LIKE THOSE TIMES WEREN'T GOOD!
You need to sell those times to people willing to be ignorant but still burdened by scruples. So you make them out as not that bad or positively good, until the scruples wear off and they can be out-and-proud about being pro-slavery.
Think about it. Those times were "good" for the white people who keep talking about it & want to go back to it. How do you convince these people that slavery & segregation were bad if their people weren't being subjugated & in fact benefited from it? I wouldn't be surprised if lots of white people got pleasure & empowerment out of seeing tired, downtrodden black people having to use dilapidated facilities, drink from dirty water fountains & be turned away from restaurants & stores. If they didn't enjoy it, they wouldn't have allowed it to last for 100+ years & they wouldn't be whining & yearning for the good ol' days today! These were the "good ol times" for them because black people "knew their place" & white people could do what they wanted (& get away with it) & they didn't have to share their resources or surroundings with people they felt were inferior. They STILL think we're inferior but they have to legally "tolerate" us now so all they can do is dream about the past & use code amongst each other so they don't come off as "racist." LOL
the local library saved me! - parochial education didn't provide enough so my Father took me to the local library - my curiosity was resolved - my children became educators - NEVER CRUSH CURIOSITY
I was lucky. My mother was a teacher (33 years). We had a full set of encyclopedia britannica. A-Z. I read everyone one of those cover to cover when I was in grade school, Jr. high, and high school. took about 6 years total. I still pull answers out of my ass, to my wife's amazement, while watching Jeopardy. Stuff I learned in those books all those years ago.
Softening up history is the first step in outright history altering. You're in for the fight of your lifetime in the US, because the message: "we weren't that bad after all" is easy to sell on a political stage.
If we look how Eugenics was something that most western countries dabbled in. Modern medicine and medical practices for those with disabilities during the 70´s and 80´s was not very humane either.
My uncle, who passed in 2006, would be rolling in his grave at this TX bill. My uncle was a great man, he was a history teacher in AR for over 30 years, a man that regularly told the administration to F off when they tried to influence his teaching methods. He made it his life objective to teach young minds the truth, ugly or not, about America's history. Some of my fondest memories of my uncle was him lecturing me in various stages of my life, even when the subject matter was well beyond my current level of education. I appreciate everything he taught me in those impromptu lectures, even if it took me a couple years to understand. My uncle was a great man.. he did his best while alive to truly educate young minds without political influence, in a very right wing state.. He helped shape the man I am today, and he helped shape the lives of thousands in my area over the decades.. if he was alive today.. he would have been a follower of Beau.. thank you
That's a misconception. Texans don't write the books, but because it's a giant state with a million schools, publishers like Pearson and Houghton Mifflin design books for Texas school board approval. It would be worse if California weren't also so large and influential.
In 1984 The Daughters of The United Southern Confederacy were successful in controlling educational publisher McGraw Hill in editing out substantial amounts of Civil War history from text books from history books used in Texas schools. Eventually these became the very same books used throughout the southern region of the United States. Then a more corrosive effect was employed on our entire educational system across the country. We were convinced that it was more important to focus on reading, writing and arithmetic and subjects like history, the arts and humanities were substantially cut from educational syllabuses throughout the country. This is how you eliminate our national memory, a shared culture and dumb down a nation. This is how to politically gain control of a people. This is how labor unions die. This is how oligarchies gain control. This is democracies die!
It used to be liberal arts and it was the kind of stuff that gave us the right to think and process. But it was not as useful in getting a job. It WAS useful in pursuing a career.
I guess they’ll come up with some other creative b.s. to take credit for all of the things black Americans accomplished too. Oh… they’ve been handling that by just not teaching it at all. 😒
This not only applies to slavery, but the cruel way native Americans were forced from their homeland and marched Westward. My great-grandmother's ancestors were forced to march from Alabama to Oklahoma on the Trail of Tears, but that's pretty much all we know. My mother never knew the name of her grandmother, and her half-Cherokee mother died young in 1932 when my mother was only eleven. My mother's cousin did family geneology of her father's people, and traced their roots back to 17th century England. He didn't think it was important to try to research her mother's people. He didn't even include my grandmother's photo in his book, and there was a photo provided to him. I guess her dark skin, straight black hair, and dark eye color wasn't what he wanted our progeny to see. Mom was angry that her beautiful mother was excluded from his book, and rightly so.
When I was a kid in school in the 90’s, our history teachers taught a distinction between slavery and involuntary servitude. I think it was “indentured servant”. And we all knew American slavery was SLAVERY.
I remember hearing the term "indentured servant" used in the 70's. But it was applied to the "white" folks who couldn't afford to come to the states. They were "sponsored" by rich individuals who needed cheap labor for their businesses.
@@michaelmartinez3674 my understanding is that indentured servitude typically was for a defined period of time, during which the person’s freedom was earned, and they were then free. Doubt that was the case for any black people.
@@joeljeffcoat6241 Completely forgot about that aspect of the term. You are correct of course. It only depended to the holder of the "contract" that determined when the time was up.
I use word, indentured servant as a euphemism for slavery. Not officially of course. It's said ironically so there is plausible deniability otherwise they can fire us.
@@joeljeffcoat6241 It was ugly. If you had children during your (typically 7y) servitude, they could be bound for their own 7y term. Difficult to have effective birth control back then. Of course, that depended ENTIRELY upon the mindset of the rich person holding the contract.
School House Rock Series on the True History of the United States Needs to be Produced & Aired on Television or at Least on the Internet (RUclips, Instagram, Twitter, ....) !!!
If you know how to code or make cartoons I have written several plays with outlines on different historical people. My favorite is Sybil Luddington 16 yo who, on the same night Paul made his ride, rode 40 miles on her horse named Starr collecting militia to protect the supply barracks in Connecticut . It really writes itself.
Let’s start by getting Texas to allow teaching of the real history of the Alamo and Texas’ need to retain slavery. Texas’ existence was caused by Mexico’s proposals to abolish slavery. Texas needed slavery and fought to bolster their economy and not for notions of freedom and independence. Of course, Texas banned such teachings.
This reminds me of my Texas History teacher in '86, Mr. Hayden (RIP). He began this point in history by holding an election for the "President of Texas" He didn't give us the names or physical characteristics but only presented their accomplishments and experience. Santa Anna won in a landslide! He would show us the slideshows required in the curriculum but ad-libbed over most of the text that accompanied the materials. There was very little "class work" and lots of personal anecdotes and interactive lectures and open discussion. This was also the guy who held a "secret wargame society" after school where we could play TTRPGS and miniature strategy games. Yup I was basically one of the kids from Stranger Things.
I'm over 50 and we were taught in school that native Americans and us were besties... and that thanksgiving was a time to celebrate the friendship between us and them... I grew up in a christian town and in the 70s-mid 80s we were taught that blacks were not on an equal level. In school... I was part of the first bussed in students from Chicago who were black and 70% of the students that went to my school never seen one in person and up close. There were some that were mean to them and the rest of us who didn't see the difference befriended them. This was in 1984 and here we are today... What a FN disgrace....
There has to be atleast one guy who posts this bullshit on every video... If you dont have anything to say yourself, keep quite. Quoting intelligent people, without context makes you look like a fool.
History is the way we avoid any mistakes that autocrat’s and dictators have made. We learn from mistakes, ask any person that lived in Germany, in the 1930s and 40s.
@@JamesC785 Yes, nobody is hiding the facts from kids in schools. We ( german kids ) all know what went on in WW1 and WW2, nobody keep it "safe" for us. It is teached as factual as possible. There is discussion on every topic, especially in history class. Nobody gets hurt by this, its history and everybody has to know what was going on and why it all happened.
@@ickebins6948 Excellent English but you used 'teached' when you should have used 'taught'. The Japanese have taken the opposite approach and most of them under 70 have no idea what their country did in the 30's and 40's.
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-- *"Educated people make better decisions. They're not plagued by some two-bit conman. They understand the way the world works because they know what happened in the past."* *_Thank you, Beau!_*
"If you want to avoid similar mistakes in the future, it has to be taught." presupposes that the people trying make the change don't want similar "mistakes" to be made, or that they even view them as mistakes.
I just saw a RUclips short from a German history channel and they showed a monument that was dedicated to the books that were burned by the nazis. The comments section is filled with nazi scum celebrating and condoning it.
That’s like the Nazi word ‘Umsiedlung’. The deportation of millions of Jews to extermination camps in occupied Poland was indeed referred to as ‘resettlement’, which is what ‘Umsiedlung’ means.
@@speurtighearnamacterik8230 It was worse over here, in Europe, I’m afraid. The nazis called it resettling, but the Jews and Gypsies were in fact resettled through the chimneys of Majdanek, Treblinka, Chelmno, Sobibor, and Auschwitz-Birkenau, within hours after arrival. They were exterminated. The nazis had plenty of euphemisms for their various types of atrocities.
old textbooks from the late 1800's talk about the natives as full on nations and the pride with which the settlers conquered them. As time goes on later textbooks stop mentioning the culture of the nations of the natives and start talking about them as disconnected nomadic tribes. By the late 1900's textbooks talk about them as stone age nomadic tribes with no technology or culture to speak of who were luck to be conquered by the superior European colonists. This is how we re-write history slowly over time to justify and cover up atrocities of the past.
And even today certain ppl refuse to believe and accept that the ancients weee very intelligent and technological, claiming the things they built “had to by done by aliens”……..it disgusts me, and they get pretty upset when you call them out.
here's the actual Orwell quote I was looking for “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
Yes, this was Winston explaining to his fellow Co-worker "Comrade Julia' why he didn't keep the piece of paper, sometime ago. Since Winston worked in the MiniTrue, he would know this as he personally worked on the stories, and technically so does she, but She already uses CrimeStop to ignore it all and not see the world around her was not infallible.
I taught for decades, the front end of which was using textbooks. Most of the textbooks used in public schools came out of the state of Texas and we used to note how new editions got whiter and whiter. This regional curricular weirdness goes waaaaayyyy back.
My Dad was a History teacher and I got my BA in History. Dad is currently looking for a way to come back and haunt these idiots. I hope I've taught my kids the truth and they will teach their kids. By the way, Andrew Jackson "involuntarily relocated" the Native Americans along the Trail of Tears. We pushed Native Americans off their homelands all across the country and on to reservations that were barely fit for any form of settlement. Keep it coming, Beau!
There's exactly two reasons someone would want to downplay the horrors of slavery: because they don't think it was that bad, or because they want to bring it back.
@@curly73ful It never left. Not really. The abolition of slavery have rise to the industrial prison and today it's the privatized industrial prisons. People still own people, enabled by the "justice system" in the U.S.
Brings to mind that sheriff who didn't understand what the fuss was all about. "We gave 'em food, clothing, and housing and all they had to do is work." Paraphrasing, but that was the gist. No doubt he went to school in the south.
I believe they want to bring it back, but this time it will not just be blacks, it will be against, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and poor uneducated white people, this is why they do not want us talking to each or getting along so that we do see them coming and let raise up a hero that we believe cares about only white people! Remember Trump said he loves the “Poorly Educated”
They can start by reading Forget the Alamo: The Rise and Fall of An American Myth by Bryan Burrough Texas was founded by Americans who wanted to raise cotton with slaves despite slavery being illegal in Mexico. About half the army under Sam Houston, was disgruntled 'Texicans', Mexican citizens who hated the Mexico City government of Santa Anna for taking their tax money and providing no services, that sound familiar?
Conservative mindset: I have the freedom to live a happy and successful life, but I don't want you to have a happy or successful life as well since you might compete with me if we're equal in society!
The issue is that conservatives only have empathy for the people in their circle, and everybody outside is treated as potential hostiles. Progressives start with empathy for everybody and a person has to show that they are a hostile.
Two of my personal heroes each spoke about the manipulation of language: George Carlin did a bit on soldiers psychological problems after experiencing combat. It went from "Shell Shock" in the WWI era to "Combat Fatigue" in WWII to "Operational Exhaustion" in Korea to the present day "Post Traumatic Stress Disorder". Each time, a little bit softer, more clinical, more removed from the human cost. He suggested that if we'd kept calling it Shell Shock that our vets may have gotten more help, more quickly. Author Robert A. Heinlein introduced me to semantics, "the meaning of meaning" - that there are different ways to say the same thing, but with different "emotional loading" depending on the response you wish to elicit from the listener. His simplest example - would you rather bite into a segment of braised muscle tissue from a castrated bull, or a nice, thick, juicy steak? He reached me with this at an early age, and I feel like it was a vaccination against so much of the marketing and political BS that assaults us at all times. BTW the Heinlein story that opened my eyes was a short called "If This Goes On...", an eerily predictive tale of an authoritarian takeover of our government by a quasi-religious faction, and the underground revolution that followed.
Heinlein's stories about tent revival preacher Bertrum Skudder becoming the first Prophet was absolutely a warning shot over the bow that is highly relevant today. He missed the timing by a decade or so, but not bad when you consider that the stories were written in the 1940s or so. Listening to sitting members of the House like Lauren Boebert preaching in a church telling total lies about our founding really brought back the memories for me. And reminded me that we need educated leaders not high school dropouts in Congress. Damn Scary Stuff happening there today.
@@markpashia7067 He was pretty spot on with the Fosterites as well - compare the mega churches with his descriptions in _Stranger in a Strange Land_. But yes, the current political movements in SCOTUS and the Republican party are eerily reminiscent of the rise of Nehemiah Scudder.... 😱
I am so glad that I paged down thru the comments rather than just reading the top 4 or 5. Your comment inspired me to purchase a copy of "If this goes on" and I look forward to reading it. I am 73 years old & it is NEVER too late to learn. I will pass the book down to my daughters who will then pass down to their children when it is age appropriate. Thank you!
Carlin also specifically addressed "soft language." I just commented that a few moments ago. He had a pretty firm grasp of a lot of the more dangerous cultural habits Americans have that ultimately helped bring us to this particularly screwed up situation we are in. The older I get, the more I realize the guy had a brilliant grasp of how dangerous this stuff all was and still is, and most of his material was more than just cynical commentary, It was meant to make people open their eyes and see where we were going.
To be fair, PTSD as a term is more clinical, yes, but it's also more precise. Otherwise, you could argue that, like "This soldier was never involved in a shelling, but still shows similar symptoms? Clearly, they can't have shell shock, so it needs to be treated completely differently." or even worse "Clearly, they're just acting like it." And PTSD can come from many sources, many not even vaguely related to armed combat, but can be treated in similar manners. "Shell Shock" is just too specific.
"If you want to avoid similar mistakes in the future, [history] has to be taught" Yep, there's the problem. Some are a-ok with repeating it because they think it'll go differently and they'll benefit.
All you need to know about the current state of Texas history“education” is to listen to that recording of teachers meeting with an administrative lemming that made the rounds a few months ago. Basically the administrator admonished the teacher’s question about how to cover the The Third Reich/Holocaust under the new guidelines. The administrator replied they should present both sides!!! So… pro extermination of a people, war of outright aggression, massacres of unarmed civilians, etc… etc…
And iguess he didnt mean how avrage people did that things by letting nazis gt into power by capegoating everything bad on minorities instead adressing problems ?! That the only other side that really interesting and still not really, just how easy people can fall and get onthe to lets call it the "dark side". Simplified. Bu defending actual nazi policies and side, whyy. Ok it would be bad if your party lives of fearmongering of harmless minoritis and by changing terms to li "the final solution" and other to mak it sound not that genocide it is,or work camps not literal slavery. and thats disproven in there. But thats yeah, very bad. Thats why that education exist, to not be like literal nazis in policy and mentality. And i know ther are some not that mentioned things, but overt, really?!
When I was in grade school in the 70’s/80’s- my father often recited the words: those who don’t learn their history, are doomed to repeat it. As the child of an army veteran, he had been moved to numerous schools in various states who all seemed to have differing ‘requirements of learning based on the ‘grade’ the child was in- as a result, he got his GED when I was in grade school. He’s a far from ignorant man, he knew what he was talking about then as now. My grandfather, an old school republican of the Eisenhower years, dad says, is turning in his grave at what is happening now. And dad is a man of few words- all of which are said with experience and import.
Involuntary relocation might occur when you lose your home due to a natural disaster or under eminent domain. What happened in America was extermination, exploitation, colonization/incarceration. The indelible stain remains because it's still perpetuated; indigenous people were denied their culture/relegated to reservations. Slaves went from the plantation to incarceration with very little in between. Bigotry discrimination/still exists today, it begins with prenatal care/ends in the grave.
We repeated the British invasion of Afghanistan in the 19th century. (They even used that in Sherlock with both versions of Watson having served there.) Are we going to repeat the British invasion of Russia in The Crimean War? (Crimean War was known for The Charge of the Light Brigade and Florence Nightingale.)
I'm sixty years old. I remember slavery being glazed over, yeah, the word was used, but only to glorify Lincoln. There was much in "history" that made no sense to me; my fifth grade teacher told me that if I wanted to know the truth, I would have to go outside of school to find it. This isn't new, it's just that the push to know the truth, to teach the truth has become stronger; people of color aren't willing to have their ancestors' reality white washed any more. How will white people justify their racism if the truth is taught? How will the government control poor white people, if they become educated? Where will it all end? Equality? (clutches pearls)
I’ve been teaching 24 years in Oklahoma, which is currently in a competition with Texas to see who can be more extreme. I don’t think I’ll be teaching much longer due to crap like this. Lots of us are going to leave.
One does not have to answer for the actions of one’s ancestors, but one must answer for one’s own actions. Make sure those actions merit the respect of those that follow you. Only those who lived in the past are responsible for the past. All of us are responsible for the future. The past ended a moment ago, the future starts now.
Yep thre i an ärzte song, its not your fault that th world is how it is, but if it stay so (which is extragating,but you are responsible fo your actions in it, it better, true.)
Agreed and while it is true there are those who need to acknowledge the effects of the past on the present even when it might mean they have to acknowledge their own privilege in that situation.
Large parts of our country still want to present freakin creationism on an equal-footing and real alternative to evolution. So, if we're teaching fairy tales as science, it makes sense we also want to ignore any history that doesn't support our mythology. Hell, we probably ought to be glad they mention it at all.
thank you,...... I have been saying that for ages. why do we teach kids a magical man lives in the north pole who makes toys, and flys around on christmas night delivering those toys to good little kids. we could easily just tell them it's a myth, or better yet take the time to point out how the myth is actually inspired by a real person. It almost seems like we are priming them for extreme gullibility.
A few years ago, when everyone was having a meltdown about civil war statues being removed, my cousin posted an attempt at a ratuionale. It was a meme sstating that it wasnt about the civial war or racism, but they should be honored foe the military prowess. One of the gemerals, (I think Jeb Stuart) was such a great militarist strategist that his tactics were used by Rimmel during WWII. I commented "So you're saying we should keep statues of him because a Nazi general copied his battle strategies?" She still didn't get it.
Beau I am fighting that fight with all my heart right now. I am teaching history in the trenches so that disadvantaged kids can see what the world they live in is and how it was created. I don't always do a perfect job, but I'm trying, I promise you I am trying. And I never soften the language, I always show the ugly truth, as well as examples of resistance and liberation. How else are they going to save the world?
As a fellow educator, I totally understand. I've been fortunate to have amazing, insightful students, but less luck with admin and politics. Also, subscribed, mainly to keep tabs, but who knows, I might get some gaming skills, Lol 💚🌎✌️😎🍀
That and, if they don't acknowledge how a certain group of people were royally screwed over, they can pretend that that group deserves what they have now. Erasing slavery erases current racial injustice.
As usual Beau, making a great point. Our history is gruesome, we need to educate our youth as to not to repeat our mistakes. Unfortunately, our country is in the grasp of a violent minority.
Beau is on point here. I just finished reading a book called "Forget The Alamo". It's written by three professional writers/journalists who are multi-general Texas natives all happen to be white. This book is exacting, objective and a very interesting read. It is actually a history of the History of Texas etc. Published recently, they also mention the call by Gov. Abbot in 2018 that Texas schools can only teach the "glorious" story of the Alamo. (it's real name btw is the Mission San Antonio de Valero) This book validates everything Beau is saying. Hooray for True History.
I encountered a family a month ago and the teenage girl was interested in my good trouble tee-shirt. When she asked me about it I told her to Google bloody Sunday. A while later at the community center she and her mother were crying,the mother said "I didn't know!"the little girl asked father if he knew and he just looked at his feet like a guilty little boy. The look of DIISGUST on her face as she waited for him to answer probably explains why folks are so afraid of the actual history of this country. 😅
East Tennessee checking in here. TVA did a lot of good for the region and still does to this day. Our lake and dam system is glorious! I LOVE IT! We'll surely never be short on water here anytime soon. But, in order to do all that... Yeah, some shit went down that probably wasn't right. 😔
Next school year, I’m teaching APUSH for the first time. I’ve taught World History for 15 years, without worry of explaining different opinions and viewpoints. I was free to teach my students the truth about the slave trade and it’s lasting effects. I told my wife I was nervous, and she said the most empowering thing: “Facts. Facts, facts, facts. The facts are there and they support the truth. Tell them the facts and let them put the pieces together.”
I was involuntarily located from my hometown San Diego to Arizona..Economic fascism. Not part of the slave trade. Big difference. They should at least rerun Roots on major chanel's like they did in 1978. Really scary stuff Beau. I mean that.
In Texas we have always taught mythology, not history. I’ve always wondered why we celebrate the loss at the Alamo rather than the win at San Jacinto. Given that teaching our founding is based on losing not winning is there any question about why our Poobahs, who have always taught “The War Between The States” rather than “The Civil War,” would actually teach slavery? The BIG fight must come at the publishers. Texas is a state that drives textbook purchase for other states. The textbook publishers have to decide between profits and Democracy. They are another bunch we must hold to account!
As a german i can't understand why it's so hard to accept your gruesom history. It's not your fault it happened but it's your fault if you let it happen again. No need to feel guilty for any of it, just accept that it happened and be on the watch for signs of history repeating.
I was taught the truth world history and American history. Am I horrified about it yes but I don't feel guilty. I wasn't even born then and I'm in my sixties. Teach the truth so it never happens again!
100%
But at the end it's worth it. As a Spaniard born in the 1980's, when I think of Germany the Nazis and the 3rd Reich is way down in the list of things that come to my mind. Like, Mercedes, BMW, Volkswagen, beer, lederhosen, autobahn, ridiculously long words, sausages, Xuxa's song about wanting German bread...
Had Germany gone the American route I doubt that would be the case.
History isnt always pretty. Accept that it happened, and look forward on how to prevent it
I think it's because the people against it are either racists or have ingrained racist-like thought patterns in the sense that, if racism is a certain version of taking one subset and applying it to the whole without considering if it truly fits any individual or even the whole, then the people with this thought pattern believe "If Americans hear people in their country was racist at one point then they believe everybody is racist and that can't be true" so they take steps to blot it out. That or they believe THOSE were the "good ol' days".
An Australian lady once told me "They can't blame you for what your ancestors did - but if you make the same mistakes you're doubly guilty, because you had a chance to learn". RIP Aunty Maureen.
Spot on...that is what many have tried to say for centuries now! 😖
Aunty Maureen is a badass
My only regret is that I can only give this comment a single "thumbs up".....It deserves a full Standing Ovation.
I would add "Even if you only encourage others to make the same mistakes, you are still guilty in your heart."
How much guilt should be borne by those that actively seek to repeat past atrocities?
If the German people can teach THEIR history honestly and authentically, the US should be able to.
"If the German people can teach THEIR history honestly and authentically, the US should be able to"
Let me help:
"If the German people can teach THEIR history honestly and authentically, then US must also do this"
Including the times we sided with 'NAZI's" recently, and from the beginning how we didn't accept "all of the People" "No more 3/5 of a citizen", No more "all rights reserved for ...", "No more (insert Race) exclusion acts",
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@@bobh.6108 American high schooler here. I have not heard about America-N*zi collusion. Please educate me, since apparently the educators can't.
@@adjoint_functor Lets See, start with fokls like Henry Ford, who like the idea that the Factory owners got all the rights. That was his ideal, and he sent American Workers over to Hiltler in the beginning.
America itself was home to the NAZI's and Fellow Travelers front Group. Irony is the Communist party worked 20 years, and helped to get the legislation passed for the new deal, including U.I. and Welfare.
In the mid west there were multiple "Brown Shirts Movement" here.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Legion_of_America
The Silver Legion of America, commonly known as the Silver Shirts, was an underground American fascist and Nazi sympathizer organization founded by William Dudley Pelley and headquartered in Asheville, North Carolina.[17]
Then at the end of the war, many 'Valuable German NAZI's were converted to 'American Citizens, and given jobs in Government and Society.
How Thousands Of Nazis Were 'Rewarded' With Life In The U.S.
In the early '70s, New York Rep. Elizabeth Holtzman received a confidential tip that American immigration authorities knew of dozens of former Nazis - some implicated in serious war crimes - who were living in the U.S.
Holtzman looked into it and discovered that it was true, and that the formerly named Immigration and Naturalization Service wasn't doing much about it.
But that was just the tip of the iceberg, according to investigative reporter Eric Lichtblau.
In his new book, The Nazis Next Door, Lichtblau reports that thousands of Nazis managed to settle in the United States after World War II, often with the direct assistance of American intelligence officials who saw them as potential spies and informants in the Cold War against the Soviet Union.
Thats for starters Look up em, Use em, Wear em out. Discard all used NAZI in the appropriate 'toxic waste bin'. :)
And we Germans still have a long way to go. We got the Nazi history part quite well for a time, but with the last survivors now dying of old age, vivid social memory becomes more of a challenge. It is easy to fall into complacency and "back door mythologization". History is a constant challenge. It's a constant societal task. It is never achieved to be kept. It always has to fought for anew in every generation.
It's also what makes us grownups in an enlightened society.
“When stupidity is considered patriotism, it is unsafe to be intelligent” Isaac Asimov
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And this is why I taught my children the truth about slavery, the massacres of Native Americans, the Holocaust etc. My children and I are doing the same with the grandchildren. They need to know that the worst monsters are human to not become one themselves.
Thank you
much applause to you!
Yes! The worst monsters also believed they were the good guys.
You will be getting exactly what you deserve if your great grandchildren have to live in tents, eat dog, never learn to read or write and go without medical care and eyeglasses.
Good to you, because teenagers today literally don't know of these huge events.
"We don't want children to learn the truth because it will make them feel bad!"
Also, "Participation prizes to stop children from feeling bad makes them weak!"
It's not about the kids (our society doesn't care about the kids) It's about the kids learning something which will make them question their elders and the historical figures THEY revere.
@@bel-amimargoles1209 funny you should say that because I'm fairly sure the demographic supporting this change likely heavily overlaps with the one that often supports "questioning" or "just asking questions"
Teaching Fake not FACTS! And turning kids into SNOWFLAKES who can’t stand to be offended. We are teaching kids to think their people have always been the good guys. Look at where we are now, because many of those GOP folks making these decisions were taught the Lost Cause and that’s the problem!
See and that's a falsehood. It's not about their kids feelings, it's about not allowing their kid or grandkids to know exactly how great grandpa, grandpa, and dad acted in the past. I'm 43yrs old, the Tuskegee experiments ended just 6 yrs before I was born, that puts my parents into Jim Crow and segregation. My grandmother was born the same year Tulsa was burned.
@@TheDarkOneAOX1 And they need to know this as well, because they have no ideal how much Blacks contributed to the foundation of this country. They would be absolutely surprised! For example, Tom Cotton and other GOP politicians wanted to give White males only, some type of recognition, because they felt they deserved honor more than anybody else, because they felt they were the only reason this country is one of the richest nations and why it has thrived! And they want to keep it that way, otherwise their feelings will be hurt and offended!!
Sheltering kids from the truth hurts them more than telling them the truth in the first place. Just been my experience...
All of conservativism is cruel optimisms. Flights away from cognitive dissonance that just alienate themselves from the world around them, drive them further from reality and cause more cognitive dissonance.
That's real talk.
This isn't about right or wrong. This is about power and control.
@@laidback7190 Name a truth that harms a child more than a lie.
Children are remarkably flexible and resilient. The purpose behind the softening of history isn't for the children; it's for the adults.
For all of conservatives’ whining about liberals’ use of “soft language”, they only oppose “soft language” when it’s being used to be kind to others. They love “soft language” when it’s used to cover up uncomfortable history
White fragility
Exactly.
So I'm in this FB group about Finland because I happen to live there. Turns out, most of the members are Americans that don't speak Finnish nor have ever been outside the US calling themseves "Finns" because of their grand-grand-grand parents.
We have many Republicans in the group with their usual yapping; "f'ck Biden! Boo-hoo, communism! Boo-hoo, wokeism!" You know, the pack at full.
Seriously, they CANNOT take the smallest criticism of Trump. One of them told me _"I won't let you insult my President! How would you like if I insulted yours?"_ (to which I replied to go ahead since I'm not in love with my political representatives).
Damned me if that's not a cult.
Why are we keeping saying they.... Who exactly are the people what want this country to turn into third world to benefit they. Just tell history like it was bad and good. Why are these "they" trying to brainwash the young people, lie to believe everything was super awesome, oh, there was no such thing as slavery. The odd thing, when slavery was relevant they were trying to write more history, laws to create harsh legalize slavery and treatment of people who aren't "they". So, are we going to change terms/history on who really were heroes. It seems as "they" want to apear in history as if thousands of people, got on boats and travel; to beg and plead to be under a whip, or be hug, spit on, called not even human or told to stay in your place because of just evil.....that is crazy
@@danielr.y5261 Thank you, Daniel. I always appreciate your voice. IIRC, you're from Spain? I'm an American in France. I don't mind criticizing my 'better than a kick in the head' President Biden. He certainly deserves it.
Calling slavery "involuntary relocation" is like calling a multiple homicide "carpet damage".
I mean, yeah sure, that carpet is probably done but most people would be more concerned with all the corpses ...
“Alternative facts” rears its ugly head again.
exactly why we get rid of the carpet _with_ the corpse.
"The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant." ~Maximilien Robespierre
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
-George Orwell
Which is why the Republicans are not paying public school teachers, and they are quitting in droves. The agenda is to have people pay tuition for private schools. Poor people won't be taught at all.
And many in the US want everyone to be ignorant.
Jeanne Church: Now do you have any problem understanding why DJT preferred uneducated people around him as well as uneducated voters?
for sure, I agree, Max had some good points, and also some goofy ass ideas, here's goofy one lol (no reason for sharing except I just got done reading about em)
"Virtue, without which terror is destructive; terror, without which virtue is impotent. Terror is only justice prompt, severe and inflexible; it is then an emanation of virtue.” - Max Robespierre
Euphemisms don't make things right. I taught my son kindergarten during the pandemic, and lessons on Christopher Columbus and Thomas Jefferson were a few examples of where I had to tell my son the truth. When I taught him about slavery, he cried, and asked why anyone would do that. I want my son to be educated and know the truth. It is up to us as parents to be aware of what our children are being told in school. The truth is there, and we would be doing our children a great disservice by not making them aware of it.
Your son sounds like he is full of compassion. I hope he doesn't outgrow it as he grows up. We need more grownups to be like that.
If you were to teach those good lessons in a school they would call it CRT and you’d be trashed. Good for you!!!
You sound like a fine person, raising another fine person. Kudos.
I’ve always done the same thing with my daughter. She is now a MP in the Army and helping to lead the women in her command to speak their minds. I’m so proud of her.
How deeply did you go into it with a 5 year old?
Follow the German model.
We have the same problem in Australia. The revisionists want to forget what the early settlers did to the native population.
Educate and civilize them? Enable them to live lives that had more benefits than eating grubs and the height of technology being a bent stick?
I wish ours was taught realistically. It makes no sense, because the previous administration literally tried to pull us into fascism. The children of this country need to know our past, because most of their parents don't remember what happened in Germany. We've actually got Holocaust deniers! But if our children are not taught appropriately, they will be much more likely to let that happen to them.
@@paulleverton9569 Lmao what?
@@paulleverton9569 Would you like some other group unilaterally making decisions for YOU that they "knew" were in your best interest - in their opinion of course?
@@BobSouthwell If I was wondering around the outback, naked, peeling bark off trees to find grubs to eat, I'd be very happy for any group to provide a
civilized and prosperous society. But I'm English so I was already born at the top of the food chain.
If you suspect Australians have independence I suggest you read about Gough Whitlam.
It takes a phone call from Whitehall to override the wishes of the Australian electorate.
When my son was six he was nearby when I read my husband an article written by a native American about the problem with Columbus day . The article was very thorough about the crimes that were perpetrated on women and children . I had no idea my son had heard and processed everything .
Columbus day rolled around and my son had quite a bit to say to his first grade teacher and classmates .
He began with the sentence " Christopher Columbus is NOT a hero " . And then he got specific .
Lol.
What a wonderful child
If you ever saw the Adams Family movie, where Wednesday tells them the real story about "Thanksgiving" at summer camp, it's one of my favourite scenes from any movie.
HUH ..... I can't help but notice that American history mythology sounds a lot like the American christian mythology they teach in conservative areas.
My son did the same lol. I’m proud of my enlightened children.
Great kid!
While referring to a different point in history, these comments by Rod Serling seemed on point. "All the Dachaus must remain standing. The Dachaus, the Belsens, the Buchenwalds, the Auschwitzes -all of them. They must remain standing because they are a monument to a moment in time when some men decided to turn the earth into a graveyard, into it they shoveled all of their reason, their logic, their knowledge, but worst of all their conscience. And the moment we forget this, the moment we cease to be haunted by its rememberance. Then we become the grave diggers."
The point about monuments is an excellent one. There's one group of people who want monuments that will make an impact and teach lessons about the things that shouldn't ever be repeated; there's another that will fight tooth and nail to keep statues of slavers and genocidal maniacs standing, to allow them to lionize the monsters of the past that they truly identify with. As Beau says, history vs mythology.
That's one of my favorite TZ episodes. "Death's Head Revisited".
Very well put.
It's a shame then, that some clowns like madison cawthorne thought going to Auschwitz was his "dream vacation".
Some people want it like this, they love and thrive off hate and chaos.
An Eisenhower quote often read at Yom HaShoah observances is similar:
“The things I saw beggar description. The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering as to leave me a bit sick ... . I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to ‘propaganda.’”
“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”
― George Orwell, 1984
Poor Beau can’t get a minutes rest because the world is becoming so unstable so fast…😔
definitely. ffs. terrible
Well, if discussion of the slave trade doesn't indicate that it has always been....'unstable,' then I don't know what does, but we are definitely growing more aware.
The US is not the world.
@UChFeefW0sUII3876oVVDgYw I'm sure they already know that. It isn't the point of the comment.
It gets people rhyming, when people go nuts, and what should we do then? We can reach for the stars, but live in huts.
Every year when my freshmen students would inevitably ask, “Why do I need to know this stuff [science, math]?” I would always reply: “It is my job to increase your potential as a human. You are still young and probably can’t yet even imagine where your life might take you. But even more importantly, I hope to prevent you from being taken advantage of by politicians and others who would use your lack of knowledge to their benefit.” The amount of knowing nods I got in response…kids are incredibly intelligent and tech savvy. Good luck keeping the truth from them. 😏
I so love your teaching! And your students would appreciate not being talked down to. All the best to you!
it's funny. 40 years ago, I was asking, "when am I going to be doing math with letters in real life?"
and now I do math with letters on a pretty regular basis.
Facing History is so hard because human have a to tendency to forget their own family history past one or two creations 30 to 60 years. We know our experience and some of our parents history if we are lucky. Our grands history is priceless but never our 2 or 3 fathers(that's about 1797 - 1820 for me). If we go t #4 we are right before the revolution, then i go even further to our 5-6 7 fathers we are in the 1600 to late 1500's our first ancestors that here boat. By then we realize what we had we thought were & all about today was all wrong. All Americans, needs to Face History and see who each and everyone of us really are because we are not the stereotype people we think we are. Face history and be free
That's the lesson I did my best to teach my young cousin when he was talking about dropping out because he didn't need school.
Today's flat-earthers and anti-vaxxers are yesterday's kids who "didn't need to learn science".
“ they don’t want American history taught, they want mythology “. Exactly, Sir.
I had 40 family members sent to the gas chambers at Auschwitz.
The Texans would say my gassed relatives were “forcibly relocated,” right?
They'd say "They weren't gas chambers, they were delousing showers!"
I am so sorry you lost 40 family members in the gas chambers! WE'LL NEVER FORGET!!!
"Involuntarily relieved of respiratory duties"
The problem of their existence reached its "final solution". This kind of eufemism isn't new, nor limited to America. And that's the kind of mindset they're aligning with.
Yeah, they would. Heck, some of them would do you one better; they would swear that none of it ever happened!!! And they have!!!
The Daughters of the Confederacy have a lot to answer for. History is a series of hard truths that have to be studied and assessed.
Exactly. They've been pushing the false narrative of the South for over 100 years and counting.
"The Daughters of a sad and painful period of the South."
The Daughters of the Confederacy had a plaque attached to a large rock that has historical roots in the county seat where I live. The plaque was removed in the 70s and the rock moved. Well, they found both and have a big celebration to rejoin them and replace the rock in an open viewing spot. This is a very RED county along the Oh/MI border.
Oh, yes; the "Lost Cause" gals. Good thing Germany didn't have "Die Reichsdotterin."
The DOC have more credibility than BLM or Antifa.....Fact.
"We have too often a deliberate attempt so to change the facts of history that the story will make pleasant reading for Americans" W.E.B. Du Bois
Yeah. Slavery needs to be called Slavery. That what it was/is and that's what it needs to be called.
Not just slavery, American Slavery with all its long term race based horrors.
Maybe even use the term chattel slavery to really drive home the point because just calling it slavery like it happened for most of humanity's history doesen't do it justice.
@@juckyvortex Chattel slavery would be more accurate. Mere slavery includes indentured servitude which was an acceptable form of financial contract in the history books.
Sadly, very few people even know what American slavery involved. The horrors are beyond anything we can fathom.
@@walkerb9 yes, exactly. A lot of people try to dismiss the horrors of slavery by comparing it to indentured servitude, which was definitely bad, but not even close to chattel slavery. An indentured servant’s children couldn’t be bought and sold, and it was illegal to kill indentured servants.
All "school choice" really means is "I'm a wealthy Conservative who wants to send my kids to a private school where poor kids won't attend, and teachers won't teach things that I disagree with or feel uncomfortable about."
Always has
@PenitentDeadMan308 T Yes, the parent can choose ignorance, and wrapping their child in cotton batting. These are the Americans who are laughed at, when they know nothing about the world outside their doorstep.
Teaching history is just a form of propaganda, no government at the moment are 100% consistently pure and righteous.
Seriously, as a non-American I can tell you; most Americans don't know to which extent they've been brainwashed. If they truly knew they'd fall on their asses, because it's not that different from what Russia's government does to its people.
The amount of *mithology* they spout when talking about basic history is mindblowing. Like, they believe USA "won" both World Wars, or that the Party Switch and the Southern Strategy didn't happen (some don't EVEN know ot was a thing).
USA scares me. And I don't even live there.
The FL teachers are being abused!
In school in Arizona, I was taught about the myths Paul Bunyan and Pecos Bill.
But I was not taught about the Navajo being taken from their homes and forced to walk to Bosque Redondo, New Mexico. A journey of several hundred miles which killed about a third of the Tribe. I learned about what whites did, by witnessing the white apartheid on the Navajo Reservation in the 1960s - 1970ss. Then being told personal stories by my Diné friends elders.
It is shameful how much of the truth of US history is suppressed.
OR my ancestors who were moved from Virginia to Arkansas, and then to Oklahoma.
@@williampyle8635 yes, my Grandmother was Cherokee she told us about the Long Walk. Her mother and aunties walked. A lot of people don't realize this, some of the Cherokee that were taken and put on the Long Walk; many were the ones that owned plantations and slaves. The whites wanted their lands.
Because these Cherokee were trying assimilate with whites, they were dressed as whites. The women dressed as whites made the walk in their button up shoes.
This is what my Grandmother told me.
But I was not taught about the Cherokee either.
It’s the same people who use “Involuntary Relocation” when referring to Native American genocide too.
Okay lets use some involuntary relocation aka imminent domain to acquire their properties and see how they like it.
When I think of "involuntary relocation," I think of the Japanese internment in WWII.
Yes,,,and who did it to the American Indians ?? Govt,,,who broke Laramie Treaty of 1851 ?? Govt . Who broke 1868 Treaty ?? Govt. Who disarmed them, then murdered them with Gattling Guns ?? Govt. Who told Black Kettle to surrender at Sand Creek and put a American flag and White Flag outside your tipee so you will Not be attacked ??Govt,, then they massacred them,,mainly Women and Children. Black Kettle was on the Washita on Indian Land in OK,, Custer and the 7th massacred them anyway,, mainly women and Children,,,,,,Govt. Wounded knee,,Indians were doing a Ghost Dance,, this made GOVT mad,,, so they Massacred them.............sure, the GOVT is here to help
The bill of "removing" natives of the Southwest was officially called "The War of Extermination."
Trail of Tears .
The “Fuck your feelings” crowd sure have some delicate feelings that they try and protect at all costs.
Damn! Well put! 👏
Yep. That's my favorite retort to anti choice, misogynistic, anti black, anti LGBTQ, Anti book, anti history, anti everything crowd. Freedom is about rights, not your feelings.
Your feelings. Not theirs. See also: my body, my choice.
Well when “Fuck your feelings” is the best they got, you know you’re not dealing with someone thinking “critically”
It's almost like they'd melt. You know, like ice crystals or something ...
We should really come up with a descriptive term 🤔
Growing up in Texas, this makes perfect sense: this was the same place where I learned about how we 'freed' Texas from the Mexicans, and ZERO mention of that Juneteenth embarrassment.
It's an effort to whitewash history...literally. The purpose of teaching history should be to show us where we have been so we can continue to evolve forward.
I was assuming this was a prelude (on the part of the alt-white alt-Reich types) for cover to expel Black people from the USA. Treating them as some type of illegal immigrant basically.
Yeah, but that doesn't benefit people who want to de-evolve backwards. I used to think some of these folks wanted to move us back to the 1950's. At this point I'm beginning to wonder if it's the 1850's they're aiming for.
@@lesalbro8880 1750s.
@@lesalbro8880 Alito's aiming for 1650s.
120,000 B.C.
My kids' history teacher made no bones about her view that the purpose of her course IS to instill pride..... she is an awful teacher and person.
What fills me with pride is the way my children challenged her.
Fifty years ago I had a teacher like that but I didn’t have the guts to challenge her. Glad your kids are better.
Does any of it involve asking her why she feels the need to be so politically correct, or why she's trying turn kids into snowflakes?
If she's conservative (which is what this definitely sounds like), I'd expect these accusations to hit hard.
That simply shows that your children had a real good teacher: YOU!!!! Proud of you and your babies!!!!
@@ZipplyZane I'd ask her if she was straight up racist!
Good for your children
This, as usual when I hear Beau speak on practically any topic, I think:
"This is why I'm a Patreon supporter".
I don't know of any more relatable and articulate champion for human decency and rational thought in contemporary discourse.
Thank you Beau!
I wonder what would happen if, on the first day of school, history teachers explicitly told their classes "This is a list of topics the Government will not allow us to discuss. In keeping with that requirement, here is a supplementary list of books the Government insists that you not read, and websites the Government says you should never visit."
That's pretty much what I've told my grandsons. "If somebody bans a book, go right to your local public library and check it out." Public libraries are our best hope against official censorship.
@@susankerr9521 If it has already been removed from the libraries, go online and purchase some copies to read and lend/gift. Edit : Make SURE that Beau is at top of list of websites !
@@paulinelarson465 I know if I wrote a book that got banned, I'd make a pdf of it and offer it for free on the internet.
Excellent idea!
@@susankerr9521 BUT, being Public libraries, they are vulnerable to being "PURGED" !
The slide to fascism always includes glossing over the wrongs of the past in order to recreate "patriotism" in nationalistic terms.
This is target they are shooting for, where by the people have no bearing of reality and therefore will believe everything that they are told and not understand they are going in the wrong direction.
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The result of a consistent and total substitution of lies for factual truth is not that the lies will now be accepted as truth, and the truth be defamed as lies, but that the sense by which we take our bearings in the real world - and the category of “truth vs. falsehood” is among the mental means to this end - is being destroyed.
Hannah Arendt, “Truth and Politics,” The New Yorker, February 25, 1967.
Bob Zellner would agree. You are a beacon of Truth and no myth. We must persevere. History should reflect Truth, not heroic mythology.
People that want to deny atrocities usually are planning to repeat them.
well said.
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Lynne Cheney, wife of Dick Cheney was on the board of Houghton-Mills in Texas. She was told that the history books were outdated and full of lies, so she sought out college professors to correct the wrongs in the history books. Two years later they came back with accurate, true history that highlighted the atrocities european-americans committed in this country. Lynne Cheney then refused the books and continued having the falsities of euro-american history. The professors then released their books on their own. One was Howard Zinn's "People's history of the United States". Another was "Lies my Teacher told me". Search them out if you want to know the true history of this country.☮💯
Howard Zinn's book ought to be mandatory in highschool. I haven't read the other, but it's on my list.
Thanks for sharing. I'm on it. I need to read it too. 70 years old and really served a whitewashed history here in Texas. Appalled at my ignorance and I have a teaching degree. Just not in history. I'm sure I'm not alone.
Thank you for bringing up two of my faves. I brought "Lies My Teacher Told My" to a library book club, and it certainly raised awareness.
Just added" Lies " to my library audiobook checkout list thanks 👍
I didn't know about this particular Texas history and how it pertains to the Cheneys. I'm going to have to look this up. Thank you for sharing.
At age 7 or perhaps 8 my mom gave me the book Uncle Toms cabin
I still remember how it saddened me to read that story. I am 70 years old now and I know that a lot of kids do not enjoy reading anymore but I think the story is still relevant,
Too many still think slavery was a good thing, the same way they think Hitler had some good ideas. 🤦♀️
Downplaying the how horrible it is, also makes people think that the struggles and plight of black people in our country is no big deal. The people that say, "everyone has equal opportunity, you just have to show up and work hard to make it happen for you."
Well said. These atrocities created generational damage, and poverty.
That's entirely the point of doing it. These are white christian nationalists, trying to whitewash history.
it isn't even true for white people anymore, the American Dream is dead. Just look it up, the statistic is: social mobility.
Yep. They want to pretend things were less terrible, so they can pretend things are fine now & they won’t have to do any introspection or change their own attitudes/ behavior.
I'm glad that "involuntary relocation" BS got knocked down. When I first heard about it, I got so mad I talked to my Mom about it. She's a genealogist and she knows a lot about Texas history and its deceptions when it comes to slavery. The guy who brought up that stupid term was only perpetuating an enduring culture of lies and deceit.
Such attempts SHOULD BE MADE ILLEGAL! Clearly attempt to introduce such legislation is CRIME.
Totally. We could call it a “word crime.”😉
Not sure what crime it would be and if you really wanted it to be a crime. When you start making things like this illegal you are engaging on the same level as Republicans banning CRT, in their mind legitimizing it.
We have to win the messaging war online and locally.
Why do they try that stuff?
Do facts hurt their feelings?
Are they triggered by words?
@ James Gate
Child endangerment?
@@JT96708 totally wrong. It is abuse of power in order to further the abuse or hate or otherwise diminish facts that would lead aforementioned outcomes.
As a history teacher, I think I am going to mention this phrase to the students and see if they can figure out if it is acceptable to use instead of slavery. And then I will watch a bunch of fourth graders realize that some people are absolutely insane to think that it ever could be. This is going to be great. Also, what the hell?
can you show the video..? just wondering
"Also, what the hell?" 😀😂
@@alumpyhorse i'd watch too!
Please report back, I would love to hear their response.
@@ShirleeKnott actually I meant, can they show Beau’s video in the class? But I’m pretty sure that’s a no-no. There’d be a lot of cranky parents i’m guessing.
but hey, what the hell?
I’m scared that in 60 years we won’t have people like Beau anymore.
It's sadly funny how the same people who wanna look back to a "Good Ole Time" in their heads, wanna also pretty up those same "Good Ole Times" by hiding the truth...
ALMOST LIKE THOSE TIMES WEREN'T GOOD!
You need to sell those times to people willing to be ignorant but still burdened by scruples. So you make them out as not that bad or positively good, until the scruples wear off and they can be out-and-proud about being pro-slavery.
@@jeffengel2607 Sounds like you've had some dealings with lost causers.
That is why I had such a knot in my stomach when I first heard make America great again
Think about it. Those times were "good" for the white people who keep talking about it & want to go back to it. How do you convince these people that slavery & segregation were bad if their people weren't being subjugated & in fact benefited from it? I wouldn't be surprised if lots of white people got pleasure & empowerment out of seeing tired, downtrodden black people having to use dilapidated facilities, drink from dirty water fountains & be turned away from restaurants & stores. If they didn't enjoy it, they wouldn't have allowed it to last for 100+ years & they wouldn't be whining & yearning for the good ol' days today! These were the "good ol times" for them because black people "knew their place" & white people could do what they wanted (& get away with it) & they didn't have to share their resources or surroundings with people they felt were inferior. They STILL think we're inferior but they have to legally "tolerate" us now so all they can do is dream about the past & use code amongst each other so they don't come off as "racist." LOL
the local library saved me! - parochial education didn't provide enough so my Father took me to the local library - my curiosity was resolved - my children became educators - NEVER CRUSH CURIOSITY
So happy to hear your story!
Imagination. It is the reason everything exists. Without it, there will be nothing.
AMEN!!!
I was lucky. My mother was a teacher (33 years). We had a full set of encyclopedia britannica. A-Z. I read everyone one of those cover to cover when I was in grade school, Jr. high, and high school. took about 6 years total. I still pull answers out of my ass, to my wife's amazement, while watching Jeopardy. Stuff I learned in those books all those years ago.
dispute my facts.
Softening up history is the first step in outright history altering. You're in for the fight of your lifetime in the US, because the message: "we weren't that bad after all" is easy to sell on a political stage.
If we look how Eugenics was something that most western countries dabbled in. Modern medicine and medical practices for those with disabilities during the 70´s and 80´s was not very humane either.
If we are talking about changing terminology, I'd like to request we starting using "the Slavers Rebellion" in stead of "the Civil War".
I like that a lot. Added to my word weapons file.
100%
I always wondered why it was called the Civil war. Nothing about it or the reason for it was civil.
The Southern slaver's rebellion is a more accurate term!
Try "Enslavers' Rebellion" instead. I'm liking "enslavers," "enslaved," and "enslavement."
My uncle, who passed in 2006, would be rolling in his grave at this TX bill. My uncle was a great man, he was a history teacher in AR for over 30 years, a man that regularly told the administration to F off when they tried to influence his teaching methods. He made it his life objective to teach young minds the truth, ugly or not, about America's history. Some of my fondest memories of my uncle was him lecturing me in various stages of my life, even when the subject matter was well beyond my current level of education. I appreciate everything he taught me in those impromptu lectures, even if it took me a couple years to understand. My uncle was a great man.. he did his best while alive to truly educate young minds without political influence, in a very right wing state.. He helped shape the man I am today, and he helped shape the lives of thousands in my area over the decades.. if he was alive today.. he would have been a follower of Beau.. thank you
Thank you, Again, for your time and comments.
They need to stop letting Texas writing textbooks
We need to let Texas secede.
That's a misconception. Texans don't write the books, but because it's a giant state with a million schools, publishers like Pearson and Houghton Mifflin design books for Texas school board approval.
It would be worse if California weren't also so large and influential.
In 1984 The Daughters of The United Southern Confederacy were successful in controlling educational publisher McGraw Hill in editing out substantial amounts of Civil War history from text books from history books used in Texas schools. Eventually these became the very same books used throughout the southern region of the United States. Then a more corrosive effect was employed on our entire educational system across the country. We were convinced that it was more important to focus on reading, writing and arithmetic and subjects like history, the arts and humanities were substantially cut from educational syllabuses throughout the country. This is how you eliminate our national memory, a shared culture and dumb down a nation. This is how to politically gain control of a people. This is how labor unions die. This is how oligarchies gain control. This is democracies die!
It used to be liberal arts and it was the kind of stuff that gave us the right to think and process. But it was not as useful in getting a job. It WAS useful in pursuing a career.
Learning to read in primary, Read to learn, intermediate.
THOSE who do NOT remember the PAST are condemned to REPEAT it.
Kidnapped, caged, sold, forced, raped, beaten, murdered is NOT involuntary relocation.
I guess they’ll come up with some other creative b.s. to take credit for all of the things black Americans accomplished too. Oh… they’ve been handling that by just not teaching it at all. 😒
@@leslielewis40
Too late. It’s already done. When it’s not taught, the assumption is, that it was discovered and or invented by someone white.
This not only applies to slavery, but the cruel way native Americans were forced from their homeland and marched Westward.
My great-grandmother's ancestors were forced to march from Alabama to Oklahoma on the Trail of Tears, but that's pretty much all we know. My mother never knew the name of her grandmother, and her half-Cherokee mother died young in 1932 when my mother was only eleven.
My mother's cousin did family geneology of her father's people, and traced their roots back to 17th century England. He didn't think it was important to try to research her mother's people. He didn't even include my grandmother's photo in his book, and there was a photo provided to him. I guess her dark skin, straight black hair, and dark eye color wasn't what he wanted our progeny to see. Mom was angry that her beautiful mother was excluded from his book, and rightly so.
The SHAME, if only they had some ...
Like the Trail of Tears was sending people on vacation. What is wrong with these people?
exactly. ffs
They're defenders of genocide.
That's what's wrong with them.
I'll do ya a better one: what, precisely, is right with them?
@@d33j4ybf That would be a much shorter conversation.
@@rhodawatkins4516
One with nary a consonant/vowel uttered in their defense of their characters.
When I was a kid in school in the 90’s, our history teachers taught a distinction between slavery and involuntary servitude. I think it was “indentured servant”. And we all knew American slavery was SLAVERY.
I remember hearing the term "indentured servant" used in the 70's. But it was applied to the "white" folks who couldn't afford to come to the states. They were "sponsored" by rich individuals who needed cheap labor for their businesses.
@@michaelmartinez3674 my understanding is that indentured servitude typically was for a defined period of time, during which the person’s freedom was earned, and they were then free. Doubt that was the case for any black people.
@@joeljeffcoat6241 Completely forgot about that aspect of the term. You are correct of course. It only depended to the holder of the "contract" that determined when the time was up.
I use word, indentured servant as a euphemism for slavery. Not officially of course. It's said ironically so there is plausible deniability otherwise they can fire us.
@@joeljeffcoat6241 It was ugly. If you had children during your (typically 7y) servitude, they could be bound for their own 7y term. Difficult to have effective birth control back then. Of course, that depended ENTIRELY upon the mindset of the rich person holding the contract.
School House Rock Series on the True History of the United States Needs to be Produced & Aired on Television or at Least on the Internet (RUclips, Instagram, Twitter, ....) !!!
But it's got to be made for Fux audiences.
If you know how to code or make cartoons I have written several plays with outlines on different historical people. My favorite is Sybil Luddington 16 yo who, on the same night Paul made his ride, rode 40 miles on her horse named Starr collecting militia to protect the supply barracks in Connecticut . It really writes itself.
I'm just a colonizer, natives wont be the wiser. Take their land for a few pieces of melted sand. I'm just a colonizer.
I can see it now.
It is on RUclips, THE WHOLE SERIES! 😉👍
Fox News needs to be shut down or move to Russia. 🖕🏾
Let’s start by getting Texas to allow teaching of the real history of the Alamo and Texas’ need to retain slavery. Texas’ existence was caused by Mexico’s proposals to abolish slavery. Texas needed slavery and fought to bolster their economy and not for notions of freedom and independence. Of course, Texas banned such teachings.
Texas cannot teach history, because Texas is ruled by greedy cowards who cannot face reality.
I agree with your viewpoint sir.
Exactly right.
This reminds me of my Texas History teacher in '86, Mr. Hayden (RIP). He began this point in history by holding an election for the "President of Texas" He didn't give us the names or physical characteristics but only presented their accomplishments and experience. Santa Anna won in a landslide!
He would show us the slideshows required in the curriculum but ad-libbed over most of the text that accompanied the materials. There was very little "class work" and lots of personal anecdotes and interactive lectures and open discussion.
This was also the guy who held a "secret wargame society" after school where we could play TTRPGS and miniature strategy games. Yup I was basically one of the kids from Stranger Things.
“Remember the Alamo!” was in Mexico. Texans were squatters and they’re still sh*tting on the country.
I'm over 50 and we were taught in school that native Americans and us were besties... and that thanksgiving was a time to celebrate the friendship between us and them... I grew up in a christian town and in the 70s-mid 80s we were taught that blacks were not on an equal level. In school... I was part of the first bussed in students from Chicago who were black and 70% of the students that went to my school never seen one in person and up close. There were some that were mean to them and the rest of us who didn't see the difference befriended them. This was in 1984 and here we are today... What a FN disgrace....
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." ----Voltaire
There has to be atleast one guy who posts this bullshit on every video...
If you dont have anything to say yourself, keep quite.
Quoting intelligent people, without context makes you look like a fool.
History is the way we avoid any mistakes that autocrat’s and dictators have made. We learn from mistakes, ask any person that lived in Germany, in the 1930s and 40s.
More importantly, ask any person that lives in Germany today.
@@JamesC785 Yes, nobody is hiding the facts from kids in schools.
We ( german kids ) all know what went on in WW1 and WW2, nobody keep it "safe" for us.
It is teached as factual as possible. There is discussion on every topic, especially in history class.
Nobody gets hurt by this, its history and everybody has to know what was going on and why it all happened.
@@ickebins6948 Exactly :))
@@ickebins6948 Excellent English but you used 'teached' when you should have used 'taught'.
The Japanese have taken the opposite approach and most of them under 70 have no idea what their country did in the 30's and 40's.
They have to be carefully taught...☮️
I wonder _why_ people would want to soften language about slavery 🤔
What could their plans possibly be?
I thought the same thing with the damage SCOTUS has done. So far.
Exactly, Dr. Zoidberg. Attempting to make the indefensible palatable is a means of opening a door.
_Reminder;_ You will likely see an user named *Laid Back* replying to comments on here. He's just our old far-right troll *The Dude,* who couldn't care less about "having a conversation" and just wants to stir things up and inject misinformation. Ignoring him is strongly encouraged, he tends to leave when ignored. Thank you.
-- *"Educated people make better decisions. They're not plagued by some two-bit conman. They understand the way the world works because they know what happened in the past."*
*_Thank you, Beau!_*
"If you want to avoid similar mistakes in the future, it has to be taught." presupposes that the people trying make the change don't want similar "mistakes" to be made, or that they even view them as mistakes.
This is painfully accurate.
Right!?
Those who wish to ban the truth of atrocity wish to replicate them.
I just saw a RUclips short from a German history channel and they showed a monument that was dedicated to the books that were burned by the nazis. The comments section is filled with nazi scum celebrating and condoning it.
Democracy only works well with an educated populous, and stupid and lazy people don't ask what's at the end of the conveyor belt they headed down.
That’s like the Nazi word ‘Umsiedlung’. The deportation of millions of Jews to extermination camps in occupied Poland was indeed referred to as ‘resettlement’, which is what ‘Umsiedlung’ means.
I always wondered how you say "bullshit" in German.
@@Wednesdaywoe1975 Good for you. Keep wondering, don’t Google it 😊
@@speurtighearnamacterik8230 It was worse over here, in Europe, I’m afraid. The nazis called it resettling, but the Jews and Gypsies were in fact resettled through the chimneys of Majdanek, Treblinka, Chelmno, Sobibor, and Auschwitz-Birkenau, within hours after arrival. They were exterminated. The nazis had plenty of euphemisms for their various types of atrocities.
Thank you Beau
old textbooks from the late 1800's talk about the natives as full on nations and the pride with which the settlers conquered them. As time goes on later textbooks stop mentioning the culture of the nations of the natives and start talking about them as disconnected nomadic tribes. By the late 1900's textbooks talk about them as stone age nomadic tribes with no technology or culture to speak of who were luck to be conquered by the superior European colonists. This is how we re-write history slowly over time to justify and cover up atrocities of the past.
Excellent point and example!
At least they mentioned Natives. Apparently they should be left out of the conversation
@@garyjohnson8327 Leaving them out of the conversation strengthens prefered myths and weakens unity with other disadvantaged groups.
Well said.
And even today certain ppl refuse to believe and accept that the ancients weee very intelligent and technological, claiming the things they built “had to by done by aliens”……..it disgusts me, and they get pretty upset when you call them out.
here's the actual Orwell quote I was looking for
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
Well crap..that is, unfortunately, very true.
Yes, this was Winston explaining to his fellow Co-worker "Comrade Julia' why he didn't keep the piece of paper, sometime ago. Since Winston worked in the MiniTrue, he would know this as he personally worked on the stories, and technically so does she, but She already uses CrimeStop to ignore it all and not see the world around her was not infallible.
I taught for decades, the front end of which was using textbooks. Most of the textbooks used in public schools came out of the state of Texas and we used to note how new editions got whiter and whiter. This regional curricular weirdness goes waaaaayyyy back.
A lot of people (Republicans) want us to forget so they can do it again.
That’s the real story!! Let’s sugar coat this shit so we can shove it down their throats again!! 😤😡
You do get it is still going on, it's just done by the for profit prison system. Convict work programs are slave labor.
Just like neo-Nazis are invariably the biggest 'holocaust-skeptics'...
Given education on nazi germany is banned too, probably.
@@marocat4749 My history teacher in HS was a card carrying Nazi. So that will probably be taught as a time of great philosophers.
“If you want to avoid…”
They don’t. They want to repeat the horror.
SPOT ON!…
My Dad was a History teacher and I got my BA in History. Dad is currently looking for a way to come back and haunt these idiots. I hope I've taught my kids the truth and they will teach their kids.
By the way, Andrew Jackson "involuntarily relocated" the Native Americans along the Trail of Tears. We pushed Native Americans off their homelands all across the country and on to reservations that were barely fit for any form of settlement.
Keep it coming, Beau!
There's exactly two reasons someone would want to downplay the horrors of slavery: because they don't think it was that bad, or because they want to bring it back.
Yep
@@curly73ful It never left. Not really. The abolition of slavery have rise to the industrial prison and today it's the privatized industrial prisons. People still own people, enabled by the "justice system" in the U.S.
@@witchdoctor1394 and deals with states to meet quota to deliver on more prisoners for the for-profit prisons.
Brings to mind that sheriff who didn't understand what the fuss was all about. "We gave 'em food, clothing, and housing and all they had to do is work." Paraphrasing, but that was the gist. No doubt he went to school in the south.
I believe they want to bring it back, but this time it will not just be blacks, it will be against, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and poor uneducated white people, this is why they do not want us talking to each or getting along so that we do see them coming and let raise up a hero that we believe cares about only white people! Remember Trump said he loves the “Poorly Educated”
They can start by reading Forget the Alamo: The Rise and Fall of An American Myth by Bryan Burrough
Texas was founded by Americans who wanted to raise cotton with slaves despite slavery being illegal in Mexico. About half the army under Sam Houston, was disgruntled 'Texicans', Mexican citizens who hated the Mexico City government of Santa Anna for taking their tax money and providing no services, that sound familiar?
Services were likely provided but taken for granted, as is the case today.
@@havable wrong. Next!
Conservative mindset: I have the freedom to live a happy and successful life, but I don't want you to have a happy or successful life as well since you might compete with me if we're equal in society!
The issue is that conservatives only have empathy for the people in their circle, and everybody outside is treated as potential hostiles. Progressives start with empathy for everybody and a person has to show that they are a hostile.
Two of my personal heroes each spoke about the manipulation of language:
George Carlin did a bit on soldiers psychological problems after experiencing combat. It went from "Shell Shock" in the WWI era to "Combat Fatigue" in WWII to "Operational Exhaustion" in Korea to the present day "Post Traumatic Stress Disorder". Each time, a little bit softer, more clinical, more removed from the human cost. He suggested that if we'd kept calling it Shell Shock that our vets may have gotten more help, more quickly.
Author Robert A. Heinlein introduced me to semantics, "the meaning of meaning" - that there are different ways to say the same thing, but with different "emotional loading" depending on the response you wish to elicit from the listener. His simplest example - would you rather bite into a segment of braised muscle tissue from a castrated bull, or a nice, thick, juicy steak? He reached me with this at an early age, and I feel like it was a vaccination against so much of the marketing and political BS that assaults us at all times.
BTW the Heinlein story that opened my eyes was a short called "If This Goes On...", an eerily predictive tale of an authoritarian takeover of our government by a quasi-religious faction, and the underground revolution that followed.
Heinlein's stories about tent revival preacher Bertrum Skudder becoming the first Prophet was absolutely a warning shot over the bow that is highly relevant today. He missed the timing by a decade or so, but not bad when you consider that the stories were written in the 1940s or so. Listening to sitting members of the House like Lauren Boebert preaching in a church telling total lies about our founding really brought back the memories for me. And reminded me that we need educated leaders not high school dropouts in Congress. Damn Scary Stuff happening there today.
@@markpashia7067 He was pretty spot on with the Fosterites as well - compare the mega churches with his descriptions in _Stranger in a Strange Land_.
But yes, the current political movements in SCOTUS and the Republican party are eerily reminiscent of the rise of Nehemiah Scudder.... 😱
I am so glad that I paged down thru the comments rather than just reading the top 4 or 5. Your comment inspired me to purchase a copy of "If this goes on" and I look forward to reading it. I am 73 years old & it is NEVER too late to learn. I will pass the book down to my daughters who will then pass down to their children when it is age appropriate. Thank you!
Carlin also specifically addressed "soft language." I just commented that a few moments ago. He had a pretty firm grasp of a lot of the more dangerous cultural habits Americans have that ultimately helped bring us to this particularly screwed up situation we are in. The older I get, the more I realize the guy had a brilliant grasp of how dangerous this stuff all was and still is, and most of his material was more than just cynical commentary, It was meant to make people open their eyes and see where we were going.
To be fair, PTSD as a term is more clinical, yes, but it's also more precise.
Otherwise, you could argue that, like "This soldier was never involved in a shelling, but still shows similar symptoms? Clearly, they can't have shell shock, so it needs to be treated completely differently." or even worse "Clearly, they're just acting like it."
And PTSD can come from many sources, many not even vaguely related to armed combat, but can be treated in similar manners. "Shell Shock" is just too specific.
"If you want to avoid similar mistakes in the future, [history] has to be taught"
Yep, there's the problem. Some are a-ok with repeating it because they think it'll go differently and they'll benefit.
All you need to know about the current state of Texas history“education” is to listen to that recording of teachers meeting with an administrative lemming that made the rounds a few months ago. Basically the administrator admonished the teacher’s question about how to cover the The Third Reich/Holocaust under the new guidelines. The administrator replied they should present both sides!!! So… pro extermination of a people, war of outright aggression, massacres of unarmed civilians, etc… etc…
And iguess he didnt mean how avrage people did that things by letting nazis gt into power by capegoating everything bad on minorities instead adressing problems ?!
That the only other side that really interesting and still not really, just how easy people can fall and get onthe to lets call it the "dark side". Simplified. Bu defending actual nazi policies and side, whyy.
Ok it would be bad if your party lives of fearmongering of harmless minoritis and by changing terms to li "the final solution" and other to mak it sound not that genocide it is,or work camps not literal slavery.
and thats disproven in there. But thats yeah, very bad. Thats why that education exist, to not be like literal nazis in policy and mentality.
And i know ther are some not that mentioned things, but overt, really?!
I'm guessing said administrator had a hood in his closet.
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When I was in grade school in the 70’s/80’s- my father often recited the words: those who don’t learn their history, are doomed to repeat it.
As the child of an army veteran, he had been moved to numerous schools in various states who all seemed to have differing ‘requirements of learning based on the ‘grade’ the child was in- as a result, he got his GED when I was in grade school. He’s a far from ignorant man, he knew what he was talking about then as now. My grandfather, an old school republican of the Eisenhower years, dad says, is turning in his grave at what is happening now. And dad is a man of few words- all of which are said with experience and import.
Involuntary relocation might occur when you lose your home due to a natural disaster or under eminent domain. What happened in America was extermination, exploitation, colonization/incarceration. The indelible stain remains because it's still perpetuated; indigenous people were denied their culture/relegated to reservations. Slaves went from the plantation to incarceration with very little in between. Bigotry discrimination/still exists today, it begins with prenatal care/ends in the grave.
We teach history to learn not to repeat our mistakes. Those who do not want to teach actual history, WANT TO REPEAT IT!
We repeated the British invasion of Afghanistan in the 19th century. (They even used that in Sherlock with both versions of Watson having served there.) Are we going to repeat the British invasion of Russia in The Crimean War? (Crimean War was known for The Charge of the Light Brigade and Florence Nightingale.)
I'm sixty years old. I remember slavery being glazed over, yeah, the word was used, but only to glorify Lincoln. There was much in "history" that made no sense to me; my fifth grade teacher told me that if I wanted to know the truth, I would have to go outside of school to find it. This isn't new, it's just that the push to know the truth, to teach the truth has become stronger; people of color aren't willing to have their ancestors' reality white washed any more. How will white people justify their racism if the truth is taught? How will the government control poor white people, if they become educated? Where will it all end? Equality? (clutches pearls)
I’ve been teaching 24 years in Oklahoma, which is currently in a competition with Texas to see who can be more extreme. I don’t think I’ll be teaching much longer due to crap like this. Lots of us are going to leave.
One does not have to answer for the actions of one’s ancestors, but one must answer for one’s own actions. Make sure those actions merit the respect of those that follow you. Only those who lived in the past are responsible for the past. All of us are responsible for the future. The past ended a moment ago, the future starts now.
Ha ha , NOT if you are a modern physicist
Well said.
Yep thre i an ärzte song, its not your fault that th world is how it is, but if it stay so (which is extragating,but you are responsible fo your actions in it, it better, true.)
Agreed and while it is true there are those who need to acknowledge the effects of the past on the present even when it might mean they have to acknowledge their own privilege in that situation.
You can't change history it is what it is. the only thing you can do is learn from it, and change the future.
Large parts of our country still want to present freakin creationism on an equal-footing and real alternative to evolution. So, if we're teaching fairy tales as science, it makes sense we also want to ignore any history that doesn't support our mythology. Hell, we probably ought to be glad they mention it at all.
thank you,...... I have been saying that for ages.
why do we teach kids a magical man lives in the north pole who makes toys, and flys around on christmas night delivering those toys to good little kids. we could easily just tell them it's a myth, or better yet take the time to point out how the myth is actually inspired by a real person. It almost seems like we are priming them for extreme gullibility.
A few years ago, when everyone was having a meltdown about civil war statues being removed, my cousin posted an attempt at a ratuionale. It was a meme sstating that it wasnt about the civial war or racism, but they should be honored foe the military prowess. One of the gemerals, (I think Jeb Stuart) was such a great militarist strategist that his tactics were used by Rimmel during WWII. I commented "So you're saying we should keep statues of him because a Nazi general copied his battle strategies?" She still didn't get it.
Beau I am fighting that fight with all my heart right now. I am teaching history in the trenches so that disadvantaged kids can see what the world they live in is and how it was created. I don't always do a perfect job, but I'm trying, I promise you I am trying. And I never soften the language, I always show the ugly truth, as well as examples of resistance and liberation. How else are they going to save the world?
....save the world, or understand it and find their place in it. You help them make sense of their world and themselves.
Thank you for your service! I'm sorry I can't specifically allocate my taxes to go to your school and fund your salary
As a fellow educator, I totally understand. I've been fortunate to have amazing, insightful students, but less luck with admin and politics.
Also, subscribed, mainly to keep tabs, but who knows, I might get some gaming skills, Lol 💚🌎✌️😎🍀
@@erinmac4750 I appreciate it :)
Take care and good
That and, if they don't acknowledge how a certain group of people were royally screwed over, they can pretend that that group deserves what they have now. Erasing slavery erases current racial injustice.
As usual Beau, making a great point. Our history is gruesome, we need to educate our youth as to not to repeat our mistakes. Unfortunately, our country is in the grasp of a violent minority.
Beau is on point here. I just finished reading a book called "Forget The Alamo". It's written by three professional writers/journalists who are multi-general Texas natives all happen to be white. This book is exacting, objective and a very interesting read. It is actually a history of the History of Texas etc. Published recently, they also mention the call by Gov. Abbot in 2018 that Texas schools can only teach the "glorious" story of the Alamo. (it's real name btw is the Mission San Antonio de Valero) This book validates everything Beau is saying. Hooray for True History.
I encountered a family a month ago and the teenage girl was interested in my good trouble tee-shirt. When she asked me about it I told her to Google bloody Sunday. A while later at the community center she and her mother were crying,the mother said "I didn't know!"the little girl asked father if he knew and he just looked at his feet like a guilty little boy. The look of DIISGUST on her face as she waited for him to answer probably explains why folks are so afraid of the actual history of this country. 😅
Bravo to you and to them for asking the question in the first place. One person can make a difference. You touched a whole family.
“Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”
Isn't that what they're trying to do? Repeat, repeat & repeat!?
East Tennessee checking in here. TVA did a lot of good for the region and still does to this day. Our lake and dam system is glorious! I LOVE IT! We'll surely never be short on water here anytime soon. But, in order to do all that... Yeah, some shit went down that probably wasn't right. 😔
Problem is, this has already happened and has been happening since reconstruction thanks to the daughters of the Confederacy.
Next school year, I’m teaching APUSH for the first time. I’ve taught World History for 15 years, without worry of explaining different opinions and viewpoints. I was free to teach my students the truth about the slave trade and it’s lasting effects.
I told my wife I was nervous, and she said the most empowering thing: “Facts. Facts, facts, facts. The facts are there and they support the truth. Tell them the facts and let them put the pieces together.”
I was involuntarily located from my hometown San Diego to Arizona..Economic fascism. Not part of the slave trade. Big difference. They should at least rerun Roots on major chanel's like they did in 1978. Really scary stuff Beau. I mean that.
If we want to fix this problem, we progressives and liberal's need to involuntary relocate the GOP out of office nationwide.
There’s no other options.
Yes! Get rid of these liars.
The only realistic hero is a flawed hero.
"Involuntary relocation" is such a grotesque understatement that it's almost comedic in its utterance.
In Texas we have always taught mythology, not history. I’ve always wondered why we celebrate the loss at the Alamo rather than the win at San Jacinto. Given that teaching our founding is based on losing not winning is there any question about why our Poobahs, who have always taught “The War Between The States” rather than “The Civil War,” would actually teach slavery?
The BIG fight must come at the publishers. Texas is a state that drives textbook purchase for other states. The textbook publishers have to decide between profits and Democracy. They are another bunch we must hold to account!