Just a thing i noticed the BREN has higher accuracy from 10% to 15% but slightly lower rate of of fire 257 r/m to 240 r/m. I am guessing this is the way they tried to buff/improve the BREN
Hopefully it will be a buff, but the RoF should be higher, too. Bren was such a good LMG IRL because it had higher practical RoF than other mag-fed support weapons of this kind (like BAR variants or DP28), thanks to rapid magazine change and most importantly quick-changeable barrel, which has massive impact on firepower output in practical sense. I'm glad Eugen finally buffed it but it's still not a proper representation of this weapon:(
@@czwarty7878 they have to be carefull with buffing Bren. Infantry is only big weakness in Commonwealth divisions. Dont forget CIL has units with 4 Brens. It can easily become OP if they buff Bren too much.
@@jankristek1891 I wouldn't have any problem if they "nerfed" CW units by increasing cost or reducing numbers then, in fact I think it's a desperately needed change. Commonwealth faction is, at the moment, a badly designed faction, one that doesn't portray real military of these nations. It's ridiculous they're made to be meat-wave spam division, with shitty but numerous cheap infantry. It is ridiculous that Soviets are more tactical and less spammy than Commonwealth! I wish they'd buff Bren and Lee-Enfields and increased their price and reduced numbers so they play like normal infantry on level of, say, Strelki and Grenadiers. Because now Commonwealth infantry is just glorified Ersatztruppen. Only usable to spam in massive numbers and overwhelm enemy with hope he will have less ammo than you have people... Which is straight up wrong and having no connection to real-life units it's supposed to represent...
3:00 I'm pretty sure the unit is counting each dual vickers mount as 1 weapon "slot" since regular HMGs do 0.5 dmg and the mount does 1 dmg. (insert eugen joke here)
Bren buff? The SAS Groupe FM shows them with 15% accuracy, but I'm pretty sure its currently 10%. Although on closer inspection it looks like ROF may have been reduced from 257r/m to 240/rm.
JgPzIV is in AT tab because historically it was assigned to AT formations, while Stugs were in assault guns formations. Their task was to destroy tanks and not support infantry like Stugs.
Hi atkpwr ! Don't you think it is legit to have traction driving at 115kmh? I mean as insurgency uprising, they are locals so you are not supposed to beat them in a race. But you get the point because it's unbalanced. So maybe it would be fun to give the feldgendarmerie fast 115kmh vw cars. 😂😂😂 It would add value to those useless security units. Have a nice day.
Its no fun in game though, the idea is ok but in practice you just end up with loads of near invisible transport killers in your back lines which take forever to search out
SAS PIAT are same price as the Pzf partisans, you get more, and they're straight-up better. Likely something that will still be tweaked a bit I'd guess
I liked the division a lot in SD:N44. Flavourful and with some nice units, but the phase lock definitely hurts and you can get bullied by heavy artillery or plane usage
Okay the tank tab I understand. I mean sure it's only one point but you're only getting half a card of availability except for the American armor in C phase.
This division is 100% better than AK. You missed that you can bring 2 cards of hellcats with APCR in B phase, they are not locked to C phase just like SPG AA, this is an absolute cope out. Also, in AK you get soviet T-34 and T-70 in C phase but it has very poor availability so no one uses it. But here, American armor comes with full availability on its cards. The same when it comes to planes, AK gets some soviet support but it gets half as much planes per card as normal soviet divs. Here, if you take American plane card, you get full availability.
So based on the based title of the video I would guess: overkill armoured cars, the zippiest transports, the best infantry with some sniper bazooka flamer combo and the best AA. Now let me watch the video 😅
i always wonder why the french irregular units, like the sabtuers/partisans don´t have dishartened. as far as i know these we not trained soilders, these were resistence fighters, like students and a few ex-army men. i would also expect the same from the maquisards and so on, they are basically the same as the osttruppen or ersatz, as far as moral and training. they lost against the germans earlier, yes they were motivated and wanted revenge, but culdn`t train while occupied, and had some fear at the same time
Disheartened trait represents that unit doesnt want to fight, they are not motivated to fight and risk their life. French partisans that rose up against their german occupiers, when they could be captured and executed, were motivated. If they were not motivated they would be civilians sitting at home and not partisans.
does anyone know the difference in accuracy between troops moving and not when firing? we know its less but is it say 20% or more like 60% - if closer to the higher then the moly guys are going to be wrecked by anything with units with 2 or more damage when 1v1
the french have a better jpz4 than the germans, the ELITE, and BEST equiped, 2nd pz got the prototype/preproduction series hence the A-0, and the French captured a legit one with 130mm XD XD very balanced
There is already a preview of 716th on different RUclips Channel. Yeah, its gonna be 1 of the worst ingame divisions. Ita Freiwillige were strong in N44 and in SD2 they will be basically just grenadier squad. 😢
@@jankristek1891 Ya I saw that video later in the day and my god. It is pretty much a template for a WW1 Division. I will not be taking that anywhere near multiplayer. Probably gonna use it against some bots and make the bots use it so I can just see how some units work and stuff.
@@holzbergerpeter4480 The rate of fire of other tanks wouldn't change, if you just cut away the top armor. It makes even less sense, if you consider that the Hellcat with smaller gun got lower rate of fire than the Achilles ingame.
Traction getting nerfed from 115 to 100 kph... IRL top speed was 130 kph. So historical accuracy sacrificed for??? Nerf junkies win again... I wonder what other crappy surprises are in store😏
my Buick regal has a theoretical top speed of 160 Mph but you wouldn't see me taking that thing past 60 on a pot hole filled back country road would you? its not sacrificing historical accuracy to adjust the top speed of a vehicle so that the drivers aren't constantly redlining the RPMs on the engine and flying down back roads that are uneven or dirt roads filled with holes.
Just because a car's top speed is 130km/h doesn't mean it's able to consistently keep that speed all the time especially with constant turns on shitty roads plowed by tanks
I am sure the Germans complained it was unfair in 1944 that they were running short on radios at the time too lmao. the US produced so many radios that they were giving them away to their allies and the radio was a standard item in every vehicle.
@@stardekk1461 Never said otherwise but I'm pretty sure the germans had a lot of recon vehicles with radio too. Just look at all the command and antenna variants early war.
Looks on the weaker side to me. B/C tier? The lack of real CQC is going to hurt, the mollys are great but they will get eaten by real CQC like maros, avtos or double flamers. There is also very weak 2km assets. I am slightly worried about a maverick off-map + 15pt infantry spam being OP, but I think off-map has been nerfed enough that this is just my trauma from the early Hungarian divisions.
@@steffent.6477 true its not too bad but you get very little to work with so its more of a tool to survive until the next phase without giving up everything in the process.
After playing a few games as 716, I have to disagree. They have great AT options, as well as artillery and AA. Enough infantry to drown your opponent. DBSAS has worse inf, AA, Artillery and air tabs.
It's too bad the french military didn't perform as well as Eugen portrays them in SD2! From what I recall, France didn't do so well in WWII.... 😂🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️
The bren got buffed, its at 15% accuracy now, vs the old 10%. Massive buff imo
Correct!
Just a thing i noticed the BREN has higher accuracy from 10% to 15% but slightly lower rate of of fire 257 r/m to 240 r/m. I am guessing this is the way they tried to buff/improve the BREN
Upvetted brens gonna slap hard. 3 Canadian S tier soon?
Hopefully it will be a buff, but the RoF should be higher, too. Bren was such a good LMG IRL because it had higher practical RoF than other mag-fed support weapons of this kind (like BAR variants or DP28), thanks to rapid magazine change and most importantly quick-changeable barrel, which has massive impact on firepower output in practical sense. I'm glad Eugen finally buffed it but it's still not a proper representation of this weapon:(
@@czwarty7878 they have to be carefull with buffing Bren. Infantry is only big weakness in Commonwealth divisions. Dont forget CIL has units with 4 Brens. It can easily become OP if they buff Bren too much.
Yeah that’s the Bren buff there
@@jankristek1891 I wouldn't have any problem if they "nerfed" CW units by increasing cost or reducing numbers then, in fact I think it's a desperately needed change. Commonwealth faction is, at the moment, a badly designed faction, one that doesn't portray real military of these nations. It's ridiculous they're made to be meat-wave spam division, with shitty but numerous cheap infantry. It is ridiculous that Soviets are more tactical and less spammy than Commonwealth! I wish they'd buff Bren and Lee-Enfields and increased their price and reduced numbers so they play like normal infantry on level of, say, Strelki and Grenadiers. Because now Commonwealth infantry is just glorified Ersatztruppen. Only usable to spam in massive numbers and overwhelm enemy with hope he will have less ammo than you have people... Which is straight up wrong and having no connection to real-life units it's supposed to represent...
Maquisards got buffed from 25 to 20 which is pretty huge
iirc butler will also benefit from that
Yeah totally missed that sorry!
3:00 I'm pretty sure the unit is counting each dual vickers mount as 1 weapon "slot" since regular HMGs do 0.5 dmg and the mount does 1 dmg. (insert eugen joke here)
Really good ROF for Vickers too
@AlienGooo - Well spotted!
@@matthieutankol2681 also a dead giveaway (British mgs chugs along like their infantry tanks)
@@matthieutankol2681 it's Vickers K, not the Maxim-based Vickers, so it has very high RoF. They just mixed up the icons
Thank you!
Around 21:00 - something you skipped over was that the Hellcats were available in B Phase.
Because Hellcats go vroom vroom.
@@malteschaper3782 Hellcats so fast, they managed to get to the battlefield a phase early.
Correct sorry about that
Molotov spam, tank tab all 1 point slots. Pardon my french, but what the fudge!
It’s a div that’s for sure haha
9:28 1 week ago we joke about 15 points commando.
So bad.
Yeah the timing is poetic haha
Hippie will be proud
I would imagine haha
Bren buff? The SAS Groupe FM shows them with 15% accuracy, but I'm pretty sure its currently 10%. Although on closer inspection it looks like ROF may have been reduced from 257r/m to 240/rm.
Correct sorry I forgot to mention
JgPzIV is a tank here, where tank cards are all 1pt, they are AT in most (all?) other divs.
Stugs are also sometimes at sometimes tanks. Depends on who crews them
@@tedarcher9120 or how the unit was organized.
JgPzIV is in AT tab because historically it was assigned to AT formations, while Stugs were in assault guns formations. Their task was to destroy tanks and not support infantry like Stugs.
I think it’s just about the flavor they use them for
Hi atkpwr ! Don't you think it is legit to have traction driving at 115kmh? I mean as insurgency uprising, they are locals so you are not supposed to beat them in a race. But you get the point because it's unbalanced. So maybe it would be fun to give the feldgendarmerie fast 115kmh vw cars. 😂😂😂 It would add value to those useless security units. Have a nice day.
Its no fun in game though, the idea is ok but in practice you just end up with loads of near invisible transport killers in your back lines which take forever to search out
It’s horribly unfun in game is the issue it needed to be changed
Marquisards got even heavily buffed, 20p now
Oh totally missed that should help butler out
SAS PIAT are same price as the Pzf partisans, you get more, and they're straight-up better.
Likely something that will still be tweaked a bit I'd guess
Maybe maybe not hard to say at this point
Would the division be unplayable without any good AA in A+B? With decent fighters and french AA couldn't you at least get by until C?
We totally could if we are defensive with our fighters^^
Probably but we will have to see!
I liked the division a lot in SD:N44. Flavourful and with some nice units, but the phase lock definitely hurts and you can get bullied by heavy artillery or plane usage
It’s definitely flavorful!
Looks similar to Armija Krajowa and 52. Sicherung, but infantry is better. New 716th is sooo much worse.
716 is awful haha
Okay the tank tab I understand. I mean sure it's only one point but you're only getting half a card of availability except for the American armor in C phase.
Oh yeah it makes sense
French noob here, I feel good that Eugens destroys game balance to make me buy a DLC to play my country
Sounds about right haha
Nice video
Free french prononciation 😂
Franc tireur : fron teero-reu
Maquisard : makee -zar
Lebel : leu-bell
Char: shar
Thank you!
All the scout cars in recon on the American side came in B aswell
Good catch!
Looks like a fun div. Judging just from this video didn't seem too strong, not weak though either.
I think it will be solid yeah
A new french love div ?
how is 20 rounds per min not auto canon, what loader could load that fast??
Hard to say haha
This division is 100% better than AK. You missed that you can bring 2 cards of hellcats with APCR in B phase, they are not locked to C phase just like SPG AA, this is an absolute cope out.
Also, in AK you get soviet T-34 and T-70 in C phase but it has very poor availability so no one uses it. But here, American armor comes with full availability on its cards.
The same when it comes to planes, AK gets some soviet support but it gets half as much planes per card as normal soviet divs. Here, if you take American plane card, you get full availability.
For communists, the Soviets were just not that much into sharing apparently.
Good point! Sorry about that!
was the Bren always 15% accuracy? I feel like it used to be 10% before which if it was that is a solid buff.
No it wasn’t that is it’s buff in action
So based on the based title of the video I would guess: overkill armoured cars, the zippiest transports, the best infantry with some sniper bazooka flamer combo and the best AA. Now let me watch the video 😅
No just a different kind of broken haha
I won’t tell too much about DBSAS because i know
Hahaha
i always wonder why the french irregular units, like the sabtuers/partisans don´t have dishartened. as far as i know these we not trained soilders, these were resistence fighters, like students and a few ex-army men. i would also expect the same from the maquisards and so on, they are basically the same as the osttruppen or ersatz, as far as moral and training. they lost against the germans earlier, yes they were motivated and wanted revenge, but culdn`t train while occupied, and had some fear at the same time
Disheartened trait represents that unit doesnt want to fight, they are not motivated to fight and risk their life. French partisans that rose up against their german occupiers, when they could be captured and executed, were motivated. If they were not motivated they would be civilians sitting at home and not partisans.
I wouldn’t consider them unmotivated which is the point of the disheartened trait so it doesn’t make sense to have it
does anyone know the difference in accuracy between troops moving and not when firing? we know its less but is it say 20% or more like 60% - if closer to the higher then the moly guys are going to be wrecked by anything with units with 2 or more damage when 1v1
Depends on a weapon
Yeah it is weapon dependent. The bigger issue is the extra damage a unit takes if it is on the move
* French Bias * .... it´s alive !!
Always haha
You miss where the hellcat came in B
Oops haha
Looks like a cracked division imo
Seems pretty strong yeah
the french have a better jpz4 than the germans, the ELITE, and BEST equiped, 2nd pz got the prototype/preproduction series hence the A-0, and the French captured a legit one with 130mm XD XD very balanced
lol too funny
Hooray! No more traction cheese!
But the french love cheese^^
Agreed!
Can't wait for you to see 716th Infantry. Probably the only division that I think will be unusable in the game.
There is already a preview of 716th on different RUclips Channel. Yeah, its gonna be 1 of the worst ingame divisions. Ita Freiwillige were strong in N44 and in SD2 they will be basically just grenadier squad. 😢
@@jankristek1891 Ya I saw that video later in the day and my god. It is pretty much a template for a WW1 Division. I will not be taking that anywhere near multiplayer. Probably gonna use it against some bots and make the bots use it so I can just see how some units work and stuff.
Yeah it’s awful haha
So in A there are only the H39?
I think the B1 Bis was also available in A phase so at least you have something with a good 75mm for HE support. less armored than a Sherman though.
@@dominuslogik484 B phase only sadly.
Yeah no early armor here
Stg44 should be buffed, not bren.....
Jagdpanzer 4 is down to 6 r/m, but Achilles still has 8 r/m.
@@Cherryking400 achilles is open toped, so it make kind of sense
@@holzbergerpeter4480 The rate of fire of other tanks wouldn't change, if you just cut away the top armor. It makes even less sense, if you consider that the Hellcat with smaller gun got lower rate of fire than the Achilles ingame.
They could have both used a buff
Traction getting nerfed from 115 to 100 kph... IRL top speed was 130 kph.
So historical accuracy sacrificed for???
Nerf junkies win again... I wonder what other crappy surprises are in store😏
my Buick regal has a theoretical top speed of 160 Mph but you wouldn't see me taking that thing past 60 on a pot hole filled back country road would you? its not sacrificing historical accuracy to adjust the top speed of a vehicle so that the drivers aren't constantly redlining the RPMs on the engine and flying down back roads that are uneven or dirt roads filled with holes.
Just because a car's top speed is 130km/h doesn't mean it's able to consistently keep that speed all the time especially with constant turns on shitty roads plowed by tanks
@@czwarty7878 I don't think many people realize how much a 30 ton vehicle with tracks will tear apart roads. Paved or not
This is a good change. Divisions cheesing the opening because of them is ridiculous
It's really unfair that US recon cars and tanks get radio while none of the germans (iIrc) get it.
Meanwhile soviets dont get radios even on their leaders
Why is this unfair? It's realistic. The US had much more radios than any other faction in WW2
I am sure the Germans complained it was unfair in 1944 that they were running short on radios at the time too lmao. the US produced so many radios that they were giving them away to their allies and the radio was a standard item in every vehicle.
@@stardekk1461 Never said otherwise but I'm pretty sure the germans had a lot of recon vehicles with radio too. Just look at all the command and antenna variants early war.
@@steffent.6477 it doesn't mean they had direct access to artillery units though, unlike US recon
its meh. you can win some fights with 15 point molotovs but outside of a deep forest it will struggle.
Potentially!
Looks on the weaker side to me. B/C tier? The lack of real CQC is going to hurt, the mollys are great but they will get eaten by real CQC like maros, avtos or double flamers. There is also very weak 2km assets.
I am slightly worried about a maverick off-map + 15pt infantry spam being OP, but I think off-map has been nerfed enough that this is just my trauma from the early Hungarian divisions.
I feel like this division really seems like a sort of desperate survival until C phase kind of division.
@@dominuslogik484 B is not too bad if you are carefull with your stolen tanks^^
@@steffent.6477 true its not too bad but you get very little to work with so its more of a tool to survive until the next phase without giving up everything in the process.
Potentially, but also could be insanely strong hard to say just by looking
Worst division in the dlc by far, lol
I think 716th holds that illustrious position haha
After playing a few games as 716, I have to disagree. They have great AT options, as well as artillery and AA. Enough infantry to drown your opponent.
DBSAS has worse inf, AA, Artillery and air tabs.
It's too bad the french military didn't perform as well as Eugen portrays them in SD2! From what I recall, France didn't do so well in WWII....
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lol!
Hippie will be proud
Definitely haha