Composition - Framed Ink by Marcos Mateo-Mestre, Mitchell Albala landscape painting books Value - How to Render by Scott Robertson, above mentioned Albala books Color - Color and Light by James Gurney, Color and Light by 3DTotal Publishing Form - How to Draw by Scott Robertson, Framed Perspective by Marcos Mateo-Mestre, Francis Ching architecture books Technical skill - tools and software related to your art (mostly practice, but find books/courses related to your tools)
Just purchased Scott Robertson's book that you mentioned. I've been looking for aa structured way to go about drawing and this looks awesome, thank you so much. Loved the video. Watching the rest of them now.
Thanks! It's honestly the best book I have found for a decent grounding I'm drawing from imagination. The sequel How to Render is equally good for learning how to accurately place shadows and add value to your forms, but you really need to be pretty competent at the first book. I've not studied much of the second one yet. Thanks for your support, I really appreciate it and hope to continue to create content to help people learn.
Thank you that's very kind of you. I think you are right, this could be used for any field you want to improve in or learn. That's so cool! I wish you all the luck and success in the world with your writing!
Fantastic thoughts, but let's imagine that if there's an extra pillar of story or emotions. How would artworks differ if one does not practice the emotional aspects of art and the other would? Almost all of the example pieces you presented had a strong sence of feeling attached to them, but I would have appreciated more insight on how emotions are used in art. What do you see as the end goal of learning the skills to paint or draw? What do you want your art to convey or communicate?
That's a good question! I do not currently really focus on emotion a lot at the moment because I consider my studies to be a bit more academic. Like learning to play chords instead of songs. But you are absolutely right to say that the art should probably express something, and that is probably worth having as a skill pillar. I just think it's something I want to focus on more down the road. I like the idea of using my art to tell stories, but I see it as a hobby and don't wish to pursue it as a career. My goal is to be able to produce the images I have in my head, drawing and painting from imagination.
This is fantastic, I just started to get back into drawing and found your channel at the right time. Thanks for all the work you’ve done to put this together and for sharing your knowledge.
Go for it! It's an overwhelming world at first, but broadly, I like to divide it into two camps: - representing things around you - manifesting the images in your head Artists like Monet would generally sit down in front of a scene or person and attempt to capture it. Some artists did this as realistically as possible. Others allowed a little more expression to get in there. Designers like Syd Mead or concept artists have to create things, and so they need the skill of being able to draw and paint brand new things from imagination, which are usually inspired by or referenced from the things around them. Some of the skills required to do these things overlap both camps, and others are unique to one or the other. Have a think about which camp you might fall into (maybe it's both!) and the sort of art you want to make! Then you can start learning the skills. Everything in this video generally applies to both camps. Appreciate you watching! 💕
Interesting video. I've been drawing for quite a while so a lot of these pillars you mentioned I find non issues. Value, color, and technical skills are all things I've, if not mastered, am good enough that I don't really need to think about them. So that leaves composition and form. So I suppose I should just focus on those two till they catch up.
Thanks for watching! I personally have found composition really seems to be at the end of the line, and more relevant to producing finished works of art, or telling stories. I'm not doing either at the moment so I don't dedicate much time to it currently.
I admire your executive function. It makes me excited for your journey. In my own path, I have found that a focus on efficiency has at times become at odds with my creativity and enjoyment of making art. Do you have any advice there?
Thank you. That's an excellent question. If you consider sport, you train hard in the gym and practise your technique, which can be repetitive and boring, but it is essential to improve. However, these activities are separate to the actual end purpose - playing a match of the sport itself, where you can be free and express yourself, yet also make mistakes because it can be chaotic. In art terms, I isolate and drill aspects of painting and drawing to improve them, and that is a separate act to actually painting, perhaps making a cool portrait of a friend. When painting the portrait, this is the end activity, and the things I have worked hard to improve at should be running automatically without me having to think about them, leaving me free to enjoy the process of creating the portrait, designing the motorbike, whatever. I hope that makes sense and is of some usefulness to you, my friend.
Hey man, I'm on the same journey as you. I'm mostly struggling constructing a learning framework. A directory of what I need to learn, of sorts. Do you have any documents available like that?😅
The closest thing I have is the video on the books I use. That lays out the basic road map I am using in terms of how I work through the skill pillars logically and progressively. It goes from broad generic skills every artist needs to more specific ones that you may not need. The framework really depends on what you want to do. Drawing things like portraits is a lot easier because you are just shooting for accurate recreation of something you can see. Concepts and drawing from imagination are harder because you need to really understand things like perspective to be able to execute anything believable. If you want to draw comics or something then you need storytelling and composition, but a car designer doesn't need to worry about that stuff. Same with anatomy. The video covers everything apart from animation which I know very little about, but of you know what your end goal is, you can potentially limit the stuff you need to spend time on. Hopefully that makes sense!
You can buy packs of reference photos for fairly cheap from Artstation. I do also use Pinterest, Posemaniacs, and Proko, but the torso drawings you see in this video are not referenced, they are from my imagination.
Iv been doing drawing for a year and a half now and my main goal is to get good at drawing from life and drawing anime from refrence do you think if i pracrice form and anatomy it will help me reach my goals faster than value and colour while also improving my ability to draw from reference accurately ?
Yes, if you are drawing lines, then that is the form pillar, which is pretty much all of drawing. Drawing lines from reference photos or flat anime reference images is more a case of being good at judging the distance and angle of points on a flat plane. Like producing a perfect copy of an anime screenshot. You can actually copy 2D shapes and ignore 3D volume/ perspective and end up with the same picture! But this is not as high a level of skill as the original anime artist. The artist who drew the original anime was very much considering volume, thinking in 3D, and that will help you more in the long run. I will make a video on the difference at some point. Drawing from life will mean seeing a 3D form in front of you, so thinking in 3D and training perspective and anatomy will be very beneficial. Try to think about the things you draw as being 3D. Colour and value you can play with, you will still always be having to think about form (3D volumes), but it might be worth just drawing lines to concentrate your focus there, and worry about value and colour later. Hope that helps! The book 'How to Draw' by Scott Robertson will help you master perspective. A good anatomy book might be 'Drawing Form and Pose' by Tom Fox, or the Andrew Loomis books. Fox and Robertson also have video content if you prefer that, and they are on Gumroad. Fox also has a Domestika course.
@@10.000hrsI found you through your Anki video. Would you suggest focusing on the form pillar by keeping mostly books of the form pillar in my anki deck
@JoshuaImagines If you like! It's pretty flexible, really. If you want to really work on form, then yeah, get something you find useful in there, and you can begin working through it, keeping notes, and working on it daily. I personally think that form is the most important thing in all of painting and drawing (even if you work in very graphic flat shapes), so I spend a lot of time working on it.
I promise you that you are more than capable of being good at art 🥰 it's a complex field for a beginner to navigate, which is why I broke it up into what I considered to be the core things to get good at, and hopefully prep me for more specific things down the road. The most important thing seems to be the concept of depicting form, as that matters whether you paint or draw, so stuff like perspective and being able to produce things like boxes and cylinders is a good place to start.
@@10.000hrs ah thank you that's really sweet of you to say! I like drawing but always get so overwhelmed by all there is to learn and just end up not drawing at all. But your video was helpful and I will try doing baby steps atleast. I have subscribed and will look forward to learn from your videos! 💞
Composition - Framed Ink by Marcos Mateo-Mestre, Mitchell Albala landscape painting books
Value - How to Render by Scott Robertson, above mentioned Albala books
Color - Color and Light by James Gurney, Color and Light by 3DTotal Publishing
Form - How to Draw by Scott Robertson, Framed Perspective by Marcos Mateo-Mestre, Francis Ching architecture books
Technical skill - tools and software related to your art (mostly practice, but find books/courses related to your tools)
Bruh please make this a whole series😂 I’ve been taking art classes but you break it down in a very nice and easy to understand way
Glad you found it helpful! There are more videos planned, so hopefully I can continue to help you in the future. Good luck in your art classes!
I just started my art journey from 0(stick figures level) so it's nice I found this. This is a cool idea for a channel. You got my sub.
Thank you, I appreciate that. I hope I can keep producing content that you find useful. It can be frustrating learning art, but keep it up!
Just purchased Scott Robertson's book that you mentioned. I've been looking for aa structured way to go about drawing and this looks awesome, thank you so much. Loved the video.
Watching the rest of them now.
Thanks! It's honestly the best book I have found for a decent grounding I'm drawing from imagination. The sequel How to Render is equally good for learning how to accurately place shadows and add value to your forms, but you really need to be pretty competent at the first book. I've not studied much of the second one yet. Thanks for your support, I really appreciate it and hope to continue to create content to help people learn.
@@10.000hrs I'll have to add that one to the list then Thanks!
I'm a burgeoning novelist and although the specifics are different, I think the philosophy is still applicable to writing. Subscribed, of course. :)
Thank you that's very kind of you. I think you are right, this could be used for any field you want to improve in or learn. That's so cool! I wish you all the luck and success in the world with your writing!
Thank you for the help
You are welcome, friend. Thanks for taking the time to watch.
Fantastic thoughts, but let's imagine that if there's an extra pillar of story or emotions. How would artworks differ if one does not practice the emotional aspects of art and the other would?
Almost all of the example pieces you presented had a strong sence of feeling attached to them, but I would have appreciated more insight on how emotions are used in art.
What do you see as the end goal of learning the skills to paint or draw? What do you want your art to convey or communicate?
That's a good question! I do not currently really focus on emotion a lot at the moment because I consider my studies to be a bit more academic. Like learning to play chords instead of songs.
But you are absolutely right to say that the art should probably express something, and that is probably worth having as a skill pillar. I just think it's something I want to focus on more down the road.
I like the idea of using my art to tell stories, but I see it as a hobby and don't wish to pursue it as a career. My goal is to be able to produce the images I have in my head, drawing and painting from imagination.
This is fantastic, I just started to get back into drawing and found your channel at the right time. Thanks for all the work you’ve done to put this together and for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you! I am glad you have decided to draw again. I wish you the best of luck in your studies and am grateful for your support!
I so want to learn how to draw and paint. You channel seems amazing.
Go for it! It's an overwhelming world at first, but broadly, I like to divide it into two camps:
- representing things around you
- manifesting the images in your head
Artists like Monet would generally sit down in front of a scene or person and attempt to capture it. Some artists did this as realistically as possible. Others allowed a little more expression to get in there.
Designers like Syd Mead or concept artists have to create things, and so they need the skill of being able to draw and paint brand new things from imagination, which are usually inspired by or referenced from the things around them.
Some of the skills required to do these things overlap both camps, and others are unique to one or the other.
Have a think about which camp you might fall into (maybe it's both!) and the sort of art you want to make!
Then you can start learning the skills.
Everything in this video generally applies to both camps.
Appreciate you watching! 💕
Interesting video.
I've been drawing for quite a while so a lot of these pillars you mentioned I find non issues. Value, color, and technical skills are all things I've, if not mastered, am good enough that I don't really need to think about them. So that leaves composition and form. So I suppose I should just focus on those two till they catch up.
Thanks for watching! I personally have found composition really seems to be at the end of the line, and more relevant to producing finished works of art, or telling stories. I'm not doing either at the moment so I don't dedicate much time to it currently.
Albala’s Landscape painter’s workbook is a great book. I have it and it’s a keeper.
He is an excellent teacher! I think he explains things very clearly and coherently and gives you actionable exercises to do, which I like a lot.
was very helpful 😊❤
I admire your executive function. It makes me excited for your journey.
In my own path, I have found that a focus on efficiency has at times become at odds with my creativity and enjoyment of making art.
Do you have any advice there?
Thank you. That's an excellent question. If you consider sport, you train hard in the gym and practise your technique, which can be repetitive and boring, but it is essential to improve.
However, these activities are separate to the actual end purpose - playing a match of the sport itself, where you can be free and express yourself, yet also make mistakes because it can be chaotic.
In art terms, I isolate and drill aspects of painting and drawing to improve them, and that is a separate act to actually painting, perhaps making a cool portrait of a friend.
When painting the portrait, this is the end activity, and the things I have worked hard to improve at should be running automatically without me having to think about them, leaving me free to enjoy the process of creating the portrait, designing the motorbike, whatever.
I hope that makes sense and is of some usefulness to you, my friend.
Hey man, I'm on the same journey as you. I'm mostly struggling constructing a learning framework. A directory of what I need to learn, of sorts. Do you have any documents available like that?😅
The closest thing I have is the video on the books I use. That lays out the basic road map I am using in terms of how I work through the skill pillars logically and progressively.
It goes from broad generic skills every artist needs to more specific ones that you may not need.
The framework really depends on what you want to do. Drawing things like portraits is a lot easier because you are just shooting for accurate recreation of something you can see.
Concepts and drawing from imagination are harder because you need to really understand things like perspective to be able to execute anything believable.
If you want to draw comics or something then you need storytelling and composition, but a car designer doesn't need to worry about that stuff. Same with anatomy.
The video covers everything apart from animation which I know very little about, but of you know what your end goal is, you can potentially limit the stuff you need to spend time on.
Hopefully that makes sense!
Love the vid n it really helped me get my head around the art process
1 gripe i have is the audio, its kinda hard to hear u
Thank you, that's useful feedback. I'm glad you enjoyed it, and I'll work on improving the audio for future videos.
Where would u get your references for ur body/figure drawings? are they bought/pinterest
You can buy packs of reference photos for fairly cheap from Artstation. I do also use Pinterest, Posemaniacs, and Proko, but the torso drawings you see in this video are not referenced, they are from my imagination.
Iv been doing drawing for a year and a half now and my main goal is to get good at drawing from life and drawing anime from refrence do you think if i pracrice form and anatomy it will help me reach my goals faster than value and colour while also improving my ability to draw from reference accurately ?
Yes, if you are drawing lines, then that is the form pillar, which is pretty much all of drawing.
Drawing lines from reference photos or flat anime reference images is more a case of being good at judging the distance and angle of points on a flat plane. Like producing a perfect copy of an anime screenshot. You can actually copy 2D shapes and ignore 3D volume/ perspective and end up with the same picture! But this is not as high a level of skill as the original anime artist.
The artist who drew the original anime was very much considering volume, thinking in 3D, and that will help you more in the long run. I will make a video on the difference at some point.
Drawing from life will mean seeing a 3D form in front of you, so thinking in 3D and training perspective and anatomy will be very beneficial. Try to think about the things you draw as being 3D.
Colour and value you can play with, you will still always be having to think about form (3D volumes), but it might be worth just drawing lines to concentrate your focus there, and worry about value and colour later.
Hope that helps! The book 'How to Draw' by Scott Robertson will help you master perspective. A good anatomy book might be 'Drawing Form and Pose' by Tom Fox, or the Andrew Loomis books. Fox and Robertson also have video content if you prefer that, and they are on Gumroad. Fox also has a Domestika course.
@@10.000hrs thank you my friend i really appreciate the advice I will buy the books❤️
@@10.000hrsI found you through your Anki video. Would you suggest focusing on the form pillar by keeping mostly books of the form pillar in my anki deck
@JoshuaImagines If you like! It's pretty flexible, really. If you want to really work on form, then yeah, get something you find useful in there, and you can begin working through it, keeping notes, and working on it daily.
I personally think that form is the most important thing in all of painting and drawing (even if you work in very graphic flat shapes), so I spend a lot of time working on it.
I'm starting to think that I'm just too dumb to learn art 😭 But otherwise it is a great video, I'm sure it can help alot of people 💞
I promise you that you are more than capable of being good at art 🥰 it's a complex field for a beginner to navigate, which is why I broke it up into what I considered to be the core things to get good at, and hopefully prep me for more specific things down the road.
The most important thing seems to be the concept of depicting form, as that matters whether you paint or draw, so stuff like perspective and being able to produce things like boxes and cylinders is a good place to start.
@@10.000hrs ah thank you that's really sweet of you to say! I like drawing but always get so overwhelmed by all there is to learn and just end up not drawing at all. But your video was helpful and I will try doing baby steps atleast. I have subscribed and will look forward to learn from your videos! 💞
@thelostpebble01 Thanks for your support. Baby steps is how I go about it. At least you are always making some progress that way. Good luck with it!
ugh same I just want to give up 😞