Congratulations again to the PENN product development team. The Fathom II LD series just won "Best new multiplier [conventional] saltwater reel" a the EFTTEX Show [European fishing tackle show].
There are several models from the Penn Carnage III "West Coast" rod series that were specifically designed to match those reels. Probably the most popular choice for the FTHII30LD2 is the Carnage III CARWCIII3060C80, an 8-footer rated for 30-60 lines. For the FTHII40NLD2, the hands-down favorite is the Carnage III CARWCIII40100C78, a 7-foot 8-inch model rated for 40-100 lines.
Level winds [all brands and models] use a plastic gear called an "Idler Gear" to drive the LW mechanism. This plastic gear is designed to fail if something gets jammed in the LW, so that major damage is not done to the main gear train. That is why you never see a true big game reel for sharks, marlin, tuna, etc. with an LW, they do not hold up well to heavy stress.
The biggest change is that Penn got rid of the sunset setting. Now you have Strike and then you push a button to hit the max drag. I also like the bigger banana handle. I dig the changes. I just wish they kept the older paint process, this new silver paint gets scratched extremely easily.
@@JeffSmith-eq3kc Those are a substantially different price point than Fathoms. MAK are "Heavy Frame", and Accurate makes both Heavy Frame and Medium Frame models. If you are in those price ranges, PENN's "Heavy Frame" Internationals are anodized, and in "Medium Frame", the Torques are anodized.
Somewhat of an apples-oranges comparison. All reels in the Fathom lineup are "medium frame", while reels in the International lineup are "heavy frame". Depending on your specific application, a medium frame reel may be perfect, and will of course be lighter and easier to handle. For some heavier line and higher drag applications, a heavy frame reel is the way to go.
@@tunanorth Great insight and couldn't agree more...I don't think you can compare the two reels straight up. They each have their own time and place depending on target species and techniques being fished.
With the Gen 2 Release plus it is on Silver color….i just feel so sad for the Speedmaster…it’s trying hard to even make a small slice on the value reel market and failed miserably…so how much more now…
Will the 80 size have a strong and heavy duty frame that will be able to handle 200lb tuna with the top bar off? And will the side plates on each side still hold up and stay in place with the top bar removed?
These aren't an 80 like an International 80. They're intended to be light, fished stand up, not in a rod holder or a chair. You'd never really fish an International 80 like that so I wouldn't call the Fathom a heavy duty framed reel.
@@tunanorth people seem to be confusing a Fathom 80 with something like an International 80. I've seen this a few times on the forums. I try explaining that you're more often than not fishing a Fathom 80 stand up on a conventional rod whereas an International 80 you're either fishing from a rod holder or in a chair on a trolling rod. Difference in mass is enormous but guys seem confused by it.
@@JeffSmith-eq3kc Internationals use the 75-year old classic "IGFA class" sizing system; changing it on Internationals would cause some confusion. Fathoms, like almost all newer Penn models use a newer, more consistent system. On Fathoms, Squalls, Torques, etc, the number indicates that it will hold 300 yards of "that" pound test monofilament. A Fathom 15 holds 300/15 mono, a Fathom 30 holds 300/30 mono, and so on. The new Fathom 80 holds 300/80 mono, which is about the same as a 6/0 Senator.
@@tunanorth I've got 3 Toques and a Fathom so the sizing makes perfect sense to me! I'd argue it's the most simple sizing on the market actually. I've just seen guys online who think the Fathom 80 is meant to be fished like an International 80.
These are conventional reels; the term "Open Face" refers to a spinning reel. Most likely you mean "Topless". Both the 80 and 60 size have a top bar, with the option to remove it.
I have Two penn fathoms 25NLD2 and the 30LD2 .... I’m sad to say my next reel won’t be a Penn solely because of the free spool, they are just not the best for live bait. When they improve their free spool I will go back to and all Penn line up.
True that lever drag reels don't have the same freespool capability as star drag reels, but Fathoms have excellent freespool in the lever drag world. Before you give up on your Fathoms, have them professionally cleaned. In some cases, excess grease can flow and create a seal and a "vacuum" between the left sideplate and the spool, causing a decrease in freespool. Removing the grease almost always remedies the issue.
@@tunanorth The fathom 25NLD2 is one of our favorites to use on our jigstick for yellowtail fishing! It casts very well considering that it is indeed a lever drag.
Congratulations again to the PENN product development team. The Fathom II LD series just won "Best new multiplier [conventional] saltwater reel" a the EFTTEX Show [European fishing tackle show].
That 80 size may very well end up being my go to trolling and chunking reel.
Could be a great fit for that!
Great, Thanks for the LEFTY option!!!!
The best!
Im digging these new Fathoms. I can't wait to get my hands on one or two.
We are excited to fish them as well!
Silver and Gold, Silver and Gold... Penn Fathom II's, and Internationals...! I'm gonna own a few of these!!
That 80 is gonna kill the game on 80# applications. Adding this to my lineup for sure.
We agree! Going to be seeing a lot of those reels being fished for bluefin in SoCal.
Amazing video what rod would you recommend pairing the 30 or 40 double speed with? Thank you for your advice. Cheers
A 7' CalStar 700H or Phenix Black Diamon PSW-700H would both be good options
There are several models from the Penn Carnage III "West Coast" rod series that were specifically designed to match those reels. Probably the most popular choice for the FTHII30LD2 is the Carnage III CARWCIII3060C80, an 8-footer rated for 30-60 lines. For the FTHII40NLD2, the hands-down favorite is the Carnage III CARWCIII40100C78, a 7-foot 8-inch model rated for 40-100 lines.
Did Penn finally make a preset drag knob that stays place for the Fathom????? I'm in shock.
They listened!
When is Penn going to make Fathom ll Level Wind in 2 speed?
Level winds [all brands and models] use a plastic gear called an "Idler Gear" to drive the LW mechanism. This plastic gear is designed to fail if something gets jammed in the LW, so that major damage is not done to the main gear train. That is why you never see a true big game reel for sharks, marlin, tuna, etc. with an LW, they do not hold up well to heavy stress.
The biggest change is that Penn got rid of the sunset setting. Now you have Strike and then you push a button to hit the max drag. I also like the bigger banana handle. I dig the changes. I just wish they kept the older paint process, this new silver paint gets scratched extremely easily.
I'm with you on the paint. The last generation was actually anodized not painted. The paint does wear pretty easily.
Put car wax on it every month or so. It helps tremendously to prevent them. I also do it on my custom rods
@@JeffSmith-eq3kc Incorrect. The last generation of Fathoms was also painted, NOT anodized.
@@tunanorth interesting. I stand corrected. Felt much more similar to my Makairas and Accurates than it did this version.
@@JeffSmith-eq3kc Those are a substantially different price point than Fathoms. MAK are "Heavy Frame", and Accurate makes both Heavy Frame and Medium Frame models. If you are in those price ranges, PENN's "Heavy Frame" Internationals are anodized, and in "Medium Frame", the Torques are anodized.
Kapan produk peen fathom gen 2 ini masuk pasar Indonesia??
Which model do you recommend that compare w/ Penn International 20VISX?
Do you mean which Penn Fathom reel is most similar to that model?
@@bdoutdoorsdotcom-m4p Yes
@@publiuszero79 The FTH60LD2 has similar line capacity and maxes out at 40lbs of drag which is 10lbs less than the International 20VISX.
Somewhat of an apples-oranges comparison. All reels in the Fathom lineup are "medium frame", while reels in the International lineup are "heavy frame". Depending on your specific application, a medium frame reel may be perfect, and will of course be lighter and easier to handle. For some heavier line and higher drag applications, a heavy frame reel is the way to go.
@@tunanorth Great insight and couldn't agree more...I don't think you can compare the two reels straight up. They each have their own time and place depending on target species and techniques being fished.
With the Gen 2 Release plus it is on Silver color….i just feel so sad for the Speedmaster…it’s trying hard to even make a small slice on the value reel market and failed miserably…so how much more now…
Will the 80 size have a strong and heavy duty frame that will be able to handle 200lb tuna with the top bar off? And will the side plates on each side still hold up and stay in place with the top bar removed?
Fathoms are not "Heavy Frame" reels; all models are "Medium Frame".
These aren't an 80 like an International 80. They're intended to be light, fished stand up, not in a rod holder or a chair. You'd never really fish an International 80 like that so I wouldn't call the Fathom a heavy duty framed reel.
@@tunanorth people seem to be confusing a Fathom 80 with something like an International 80. I've seen this a few times on the forums. I try explaining that you're more often than not fishing a Fathom 80 stand up on a conventional rod whereas an International 80 you're either fishing from a rod holder or in a chair on a trolling rod. Difference in mass is enormous but guys seem confused by it.
@@JeffSmith-eq3kc Internationals use the 75-year old classic "IGFA class" sizing system; changing it on Internationals would cause some confusion. Fathoms, like almost all newer Penn models use a newer, more consistent system. On Fathoms, Squalls, Torques, etc, the number indicates that it will hold 300 yards of "that" pound test monofilament. A Fathom 15 holds 300/15 mono, a Fathom 30 holds 300/30 mono, and so on. The new Fathom 80 holds 300/80 mono, which is about the same as a 6/0 Senator.
@@tunanorth I've got 3 Toques and a Fathom so the sizing makes perfect sense to me! I'd argue it's the most simple sizing on the market actually. I've just seen guys online who think the Fathom 80 is meant to be fished like an International 80.
When do these come out I need one badly
Hopefully we'll start to see them available in October!
Sizes up to 30 are in stores now! [9/28/22]
@@tunanorth Cheers for the update!
@@tunanorth when are left handed models gonna show up
Is the 80 size an open faced reel?
These are conventional reels; the term "Open Face" refers to a spinning reel. Most likely you mean "Topless". Both the 80 and 60 size have a top bar, with the option to remove it.
@@tunanorth ok thank you
Make it in star drag versions as well
Fathom II "Gen2" star drags came out last year!
Already out!
@@bdoutdoorsdotcom-m4p in white?
@@FT86TT Sorry, black only.
That 80 size is gunna make everyone who bought a talica 50 for 1100 look like an idiot lol
Going to be a great option for many anglers, that is for sure.
I have Two penn fathoms 25NLD2 and the 30LD2 .... I’m sad to say my next reel won’t be a Penn solely because of the free spool, they are just not the best for live bait. When they improve their free spool I will go back to and all Penn line up.
Appreciate the honest insight.
True that lever drag reels don't have the same freespool capability as star drag reels, but Fathoms have excellent freespool in the lever drag world. Before you give up on your Fathoms, have them professionally cleaned. In some cases, excess grease can flow and create a seal and a "vacuum" between the left sideplate and the spool, causing a decrease in freespool. Removing the grease almost always remedies the issue.
@@tunanorth The fathom 25NLD2 is one of our favorites to use on our jigstick for yellowtail fishing! It casts very well considering that it is indeed a lever drag.
My new fathom 15xnld2 has a stupid nice freespool. It has really blown my mind with this new set up.
@@landonemory7902 Great to hear!
Penn needs to step into the bass fishing game!
We fish our spotted bay bass with Penn reels all the time out here in SoCal!
They have two models of low profile bait casting reels now.
Plastic drag lever?
eh no more levelwind fathom ?
You can still get those. Different model.
They look amazing but the length and diameter of the handle shaft looks sketch.
Can have one sir for freee