I have used this for the opposite problem my fuel was not working order this part for my dodge caravan with a fuel pump tipm relay after wasting time and on everything else found this was the best option 90% chance your dodge/chrysler has this relay problem by this first and see if it works don’t do what I didn’t spend money on PCM or fuel pump
Nearly half the cars on the road are already taking that risk.. There's still a lot of old cars on the road. I think it's probably fine-- probability wise. It's good to know though. I've never seen one of those jumper fuses before. What I have done in the past is just buy an independent relay and mount it onto the fender well somewhere clean. Pull the wires from the bottom of the fuse box and run them to my own isolated relay........ but it's not only for the Fuel pump -- sometimes the AC clutch relay is built into the TIPM also, and I'm sure there are others. I'm not a fan of it: You can integrate too many things and it becomes a problem. Some things are just better left serviceable. I'll remember this tip though -- using the rear light relay.
Age of the vehicle isn't really a factor. Cutting the fuel pump in a crash has been a part of automotive design since the dawn of electric fuel pumps. Even my 1988 ford has a provision to cut the fuel pump in a crash.
Our 2012 was head-oned and it tore the battery, tipm and the engine ecm off the side of the frame rail. I would like to buy one of the jumpers, just so I'm not stranded and get the 12" shaft by a MOPAR dealer
I don’t like Dodge or Chrysler why people got to do risky alterations just because this company product sucks They should do a recall to fix this problems to prevent people get stranded
I WAN TO GET READ-OF THIS ANNOYING NOISE IN THE BACK BY WHERE THE GAS PUMP IS.... WONDERING WHY NOBODY TRIED TO INSTALL THE BYPASS TO A 2005 CHRYSLER TOWN AND COUNTRY LIMITED 3.8 V6 , I JUST ONLY SEE VIDEO AND SELLERS OFFERING ONLY UP TO 2007 AND UP.. THANKS YOUR EXPLANATIONS ARE SUCH A KIND TEACHER...HND...
Hey man, so here are my questions. So is it the fuse box that’s the problem? Or a pcm problem? I ask because I’ve looked at the wiring diagram on a 2015 dodge durango , I Basically have no power going to the fuel pump fuse and that’s because the control side of the computer isn’t grounding out the relay to energize the fuse same with the asd relay. Is that because the pcm isn’t grounding those circuits or is it because the tipm fuse box may be bad internally and that’s causing it not to work? I do have a check engine light so I know computer is alive. What do you think? Have you had a similar experience?
Where do you put it in that particular tipm? I don’t have power to my fuel pump circuit in the tipm. Took the 30amp fuse out and checked with the meter…no power
@@MrRGM10There is an external relay kit you can buy. I heard the official Mopar kit is now discontinued, but you can still buy a Bosch SPST relay kit, and splice it into the harness. Doing it this way taps it into the original circuit, and now gives you an external, serviceable, relay you mount outside of the TIPM. That's what I did to my GC crew van. The TIPM relay failed at 70k, and I have 139k currently. Been running like a sewing machine.
The fuse this mod takes power from is perfectly safe, the problem is regardless of where you take power from you are bypassing the fuel pump relay which is controlled by the computer so in an accident the computer is going to kill the fuel pump relay but since the relay is bypassed the fuel pump will continue to run which could cause a fire.
@@737mechanic thanks....do you happen to know if the power to m7 ( rear cig lighter ) cuts out when the engine is starting/cranking/turning over then re energizes?
@@737mechanic thanks for bringing up the safety issue with the bypass cable. I haven't seen anyone else talk about that and I've researched the bypass cable up and down
Hello can i ask a quick question... If when i first turn the key i can actually hear the fuel pump for a few seconds before trying to start... Does that mean this fix won't help me? I'm guessing you shouldn't hear the pump at all until you do this fix.
The fuel pump should come on for 2 to 3 seconds and shut off if the computer does not see a crank signal. If the computer sees the engine is cranking it will keep the fuel pump on.
@@durapoker If you are hearing the fuel pump come on then it sounds like the fuel pump is fine. This jumper bypasses a bad fuel pump relay and in that case the fuel pump will not shut off as long as the key is in the run position whether the engine is running or not. It sounds like to me your fuel pump is working as it should. With that said even if the fuel pump is running doesn't mean it is putting out the correct pressure. What problem are you having?
@@737mechanic it just won't turn over as if it's not getting enough fuel on start up. I changed plugs but not coil packs. I'm also very far from being a mechanic lol so i really don't know what's wrong.
@@durapoker If you hear the fuel pump it is probably getting fuel. The first thing to do is figure out if it is fuel or spark related. An easy way to do this is get a can of starting fluid and spray it in the air filter bax will having someone crank the engine and see if it starts and runs for a few seconds. If it does then it has apart but is not getting fuel, if it does not start then it is a spark issue. Either way you need to first scan it for codes to see if there are any codes that might give you some direction on which way to go.
@@JoseLerma-pu9zb Very unlikely that the lead would be able to touch a fuse. Even with a test light probe it is sometimes hard to get the tip into the small recess to test the fuses.
Hello. So wirh this TIPM that you are showing. Yiu said that Dodge fixed the issue. Well im havibg the issue with the TIPM that you are showing now. Is the fuel pump relay built into this TIPM or not? If so, where do yiu jump the wires on this one. Thanks
Hi. Thank you for the reply. I have a 2016 Ram 1500 Tradesman short box, 2 door with a hemi. My fuse box looks exactly like the one in your video. Thank you very much
@@TheCitrus13 From my understanding this has not been an issue on your year model. But if your fuel pump is staying on I will look at the diagram and see what can be done.
Hi. That's what I have read. I put in a new fuel pump assembly this past winter. It's acting the same as others I have seen. It will spin spin spin and no start. Or it will continue to spin after I turn the key off. Just to clarify. I have seen only 2 videos about this issue with about my year and the same TIPM. I appreciate the help. Thank u very much.
@@TheCitrus13 Thats not what the problem is with the TIPM's in the video. The problem that the 2010 and 2011 TIPM's had was the fuel pump would stay on after shutting the engine off because the relay was sticking. The engine would run fine. If you are saying the engine will turn over but not start that is something else.
I had replaced my fuel pump. It seems like the problemhad stopped then it started not starting again so I did this bypass when I tried to remote start it wouldn’t start I use the key and it started this mod. Is there a problem when using remote start and could there be anything else I should be looking for? Thanks for any help
I had Ford all my life and never had this issue. I saw a cheap 2011 dodge ram and bought it. And boom this is the issue. It already had this crap wired up already. Just buy a Ford150
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I have used this for the opposite problem my fuel was not working order this part for my dodge caravan with a fuel pump tipm relay after wasting time and on everything else found this was the best option 90% chance your dodge/chrysler has this relay problem by this first and see if it works don’t do what I didn’t spend money on PCM or fuel pump
Nearly half the cars on the road are already taking that risk.. There's still a lot of old cars on the road. I think it's probably fine-- probability wise. It's good to know though. I've never seen one of those jumper fuses before. What I have done in the past is just buy an independent relay and mount it onto the fender well somewhere clean. Pull the wires from the bottom of the fuse box and run them to my own isolated relay........ but it's not only for the Fuel pump -- sometimes the AC clutch relay is built into the TIPM also, and I'm sure there are others. I'm not a fan of it: You can integrate too many things and it becomes a problem. Some things are just better left serviceable. I'll remember this tip though -- using the rear light relay.
Age of the vehicle isn't really a factor. Cutting the fuel pump in a crash has been a part of automotive design since the dawn of electric fuel pumps. Even my 1988 ford has a provision to cut the fuel pump in a crash.
I’d say benefit far outweighs such a slight risk by a country mile.
Our 2012 was head-oned and it tore the battery, tipm and the engine ecm off the side of the frame rail. I would like to buy one of the jumpers, just so I'm not stranded and get the 12" shaft by a MOPAR dealer
I don’t like Dodge or Chrysler why people got to do risky alterations just because this company product sucks
They should do a recall to fix this problems to prevent people get stranded
What jumper do you need and what fuse # you pull out for jumper 2015 dodge durango v6 thanks
Did you figure it out ?
@737mechanic Can you tell me which 2 fuses to plug bypass in for a 2006 dodge ram 1500 5.7 hemi thanks
I WAN TO GET READ-OF THIS ANNOYING NOISE IN THE BACK BY WHERE THE GAS PUMP IS.... WONDERING WHY NOBODY TRIED TO INSTALL THE BYPASS TO A 2005 CHRYSLER TOWN AND COUNTRY LIMITED 3.8 V6 , I JUST ONLY SEE VIDEO AND SELLERS OFFERING ONLY UP TO 2007 AND UP.. THANKS YOUR EXPLANATIONS ARE SUCH A KIND TEACHER...HND...
Hey man, so here are my questions. So is it the fuse box that’s the problem? Or a pcm problem? I ask because I’ve looked at the wiring diagram on a 2015 dodge durango , I Basically have no power going to the fuel pump fuse and that’s because the control side of the computer isn’t grounding out the relay to energize the fuse same with the asd relay. Is that because the pcm isn’t grounding those circuits or is it because the tipm fuse box may be bad internally and that’s causing it not to work? I do have a check engine light so I know computer is alive. What do you think? Have you had a similar experience?
What are some good fuses to connect it to like the cigarette lighter
Where do you put it in that particular tipm? I don’t have power to my fuel pump circuit in the tipm. Took the 30amp fuse out and checked with the meter…no power
Is this normal i put one of these even in half start or accesory when i try to listen radio fuel pump is on to . My battery depleted fast.
Yes if you put it in an ignition accessory spot the fuel pump will run continuously.
@737mechanic is their workaround? I usally listen to radio
@@MrRGM10There is an external relay kit you can buy. I heard the official Mopar kit is now discontinued, but you can still buy a Bosch SPST relay kit, and splice it into the harness.
Doing it this way taps it into the original circuit, and now gives you an external, serviceable, relay you mount outside of the TIPM. That's what I did to my GC crew van. The TIPM relay failed at 70k, and I have 139k currently. Been running like a sewing machine.
I have same fuse box as shown video whats best fuse to bypass it yo other then the cigar fuse? Thank you appreciate it
If you get an answer, please share.
Asd fuse i think it is m21. But not sure it will handle the amp load. But have seen others use it.
Wondering could this happen with a 5500 also?
is there an alternate/safer fuse to take power from? i have a cable installed on my 2011 dodge caravan
The fuse this mod takes power from is perfectly safe, the problem is regardless of where you take power from you are bypassing the fuel pump relay which is controlled by the computer so in an accident the computer is going to kill the fuel pump relay but since the relay is bypassed the fuel pump will continue to run which could cause a fire.
@@737mechanic thanks....do you happen to know if the power to m7 ( rear cig lighter ) cuts out when the engine is starting/cranking/turning over then re energizes?
@@tested123 I am not sure but that is the fuse most people go to.
@@737mechanic thanks for bringing up the safety issue with the bypass cable. I haven't seen anyone else talk about that and I've researched the bypass cable up and down
Tap in to an ASD fuse... those behave like the fuel pump relay
Hello can i ask a quick question... If when i first turn the key i can actually hear the fuel pump for a few seconds before trying to start... Does that mean this fix won't help me? I'm guessing you shouldn't hear the pump at all until you do this fix.
The fuel pump should come on for 2 to 3 seconds and shut off if the computer does not see a crank signal. If the computer sees the engine is cranking it will keep the fuel pump on.
@@737mechanic but what I'm confused on is if this bypass will help me if i can actually still hear the pump.
@@durapoker If you are hearing the fuel pump come on then it sounds like the fuel pump is fine. This jumper bypasses a bad fuel pump relay and in that case the fuel pump will not shut off as long as the key is in the run position whether the engine is running or not.
It sounds like to me your fuel pump is working as it should. With that said even if the fuel pump is running doesn't mean it is putting out the correct pressure.
What problem are you having?
@@737mechanic it just won't turn over as if it's not getting enough fuel on start up. I changed plugs but not coil packs. I'm also very far from being a mechanic lol so i really don't know what's wrong.
@@durapoker If you hear the fuel pump it is probably getting fuel. The first thing to do is figure out if it is fuel or spark related. An easy way to do this is get a can of starting fluid and spray it in the air filter bax will having someone crank the engine and see if it starts and runs for a few seconds. If it does then it has apart but is not getting fuel, if it does not start then it is a spark issue. Either way you need to first scan it for codes to see if there are any codes that might give you some direction on which way to go.
But in this vehicle wasn't it on when you turned the car off? But I get the logic.
Why are you laying the jumper across the the TIPM ?!
Did you watch the video?
@@737mechanic yes I did. No problem with the video. It just that one of the leads could touch a hot fuse or the main positive cable and short out
@@JoseLerma-pu9zb Very unlikely that the lead would be able to touch a fuse. Even with a test light probe it is sometimes hard to get the tip into the small recess to test the fuses.
WAY NAT IINSTAIIL A KEOL SUCH FOR THE FEIULPAMP
Hello. So wirh this TIPM that you are showing. Yiu said that Dodge fixed the issue. Well im havibg the issue with the TIPM that you are showing now. Is the fuel pump relay built into this TIPM or not? If so, where do yiu jump the wires on this one. Thanks
What year is your truck?
Hi. Thank you for the reply. I have a 2016 Ram 1500 Tradesman short box, 2 door with a hemi. My fuse box looks exactly like the one in your video. Thank you very much
@@TheCitrus13 From my understanding this has not been an issue on your year model. But if your fuel pump is staying on I will look at the diagram and see what can be done.
Hi. That's what I have read. I put in a new fuel pump assembly this past winter. It's acting the same as others I have seen. It will spin spin spin and no start. Or it will continue to spin after I turn the key off. Just to clarify. I have seen only 2 videos about this issue with about my year and the same TIPM. I appreciate the help. Thank u very much.
@@TheCitrus13 Thats not what the problem is with the TIPM's in the video. The problem that the 2010 and 2011 TIPM's had was the fuel pump would stay on after shutting the engine off because the relay was sticking. The engine would run fine. If you are saying the engine will turn over but not start that is something else.
I had replaced my fuel pump. It seems like the problemhad stopped then it started not starting again so I did this bypass when I tried to remote start it wouldn’t start I use the key and it started this mod. Is there a problem when using remote start and could there be anything else I should be looking for? Thanks for any help
I wouldn't think this would have anything to do with the remote start but anything is possible.
Well it's a very good thing then that I already decided to wire in a battery shut off.
Hey to the point!!!
I had Ford all my life and never had this issue. I saw a cheap 2011 dodge ram and bought it. And boom this is the issue. It already had this crap wired up already. Just buy a Ford150
thanks for explaining this
damn fuel pump runs anyway. thanks
I don't understand what you are saying?