*sigh* …it’s time to address white feminist shenanigans 🫠 | Khadija Mbowe
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Khadija, I started watching you when I was nephew (18), and I’m 20 now. Am I an uncle now?
"Y'all care more about the optics of feminism than actual feminism"
Such an important reminder
Yeah, but my feelings🧃
The way people are ignoring how America Ferrera (the brown woman who made the speech that contributed the most to helping the movie become a “feminist film”) is nominated for a Barbie Oscar and are choosing to focus on how Margot isn’t is the perfect example of “feminism only cares about white women”.
YES!!
I have nothing against Ferara but to be honest she wasn't given much of anything to work with from the script. That character is literally just used as a tool, they manage to get some comedy out of the whole "breaking the trance thing", but thats about it.
💯 💯 best scene in the entire film
That’s exactly what I’ve been saying too!!
It's Ferrera
the fact that margot robbie, THE star of the film, managed to have a much better reaction to her snub than a presidential candidate speaks volumes.
@OfficerZ637 ???????????????? sir, this is a wendy's
the russian nationalist has, for reasons unknown to all but god herself, entered the chat
@@smarterperson16 It’s a bot. Kinda creepy how good they are at imitating inflammatory comments nowadays.
@@TheFeetCrusader ah damn thanks for letting me know. was a bit confused when that showed up lmao like wtf does that have to do w/ margot having a great response to this chaos??? hsjdhjg
😂 😂 😂 @@smarterperson16
i just wanna mention that the first indigenous person to be nominated was actually yalitza aparicio for roma (2018). lily gladstone is the first indigenous person from the united states to be nominated, hence why articles say first native american rather than first indigenous person.
Was just going to comment this. Anyway, Khadija's point still stands because Yalitza was only nominated a few years ago. Outrageous that it took so long, but I guess it's only recently that Indigenous women from anywhere in the world started getting major roles. Hopefully we'll be seeing more Indigenous-led films in the coming years as well.
What about Keisha Castle-Hughes (Whale Rider, 2002) and Jocelyne LaGarde (Hawaii, 1966)?
Exactlyyyy no one talks about my girl performance in Roma!!
How is Yalitza Aparicio not a native american? She's not even just a native american, she's a native north american 😵.
Seriously, why do US-ians use terms like these, that are general anywhere else, as if they're the only country that exists in this continent? What's so special about it being *this specific group* of European invaders who committed genocide and not the Spanish? Like what, one is from some 500km more to the south than the other still in the same subcontinent, so it's not as notable, so she's just an "indigenous person"?
EDIT: missing t on Yalitza's name
Just commented this too! But I deleted it. She was so so great in Roma…the birth scene, and the beach scene at the end…so intense.
Now I need to figure out how to see Los Espookys without paying for HBO!!!
this whole situation makes me feel like “kim, there’s people that are dying”
Yes it’s so unserious.
As a huge fan of animation, I get upset every year that the indies and the foreign films continually lose out to Disney/Pixar/DreamWorks. It's bogus. Of course there are way, way more important issues in the world, I know that. But I love animation, it's a passion of mine. So I can't be upset about this? Get off your high horse. I bet there's some stuff you care about that isn't anywhere near the most important issue/s in the world.
@@balthasardenner5216I don’t think OP is taking about feeling annoyed at Oscar snubs, they seem to be specifically taking about the narrative of Barbie’s Oscar snubs.
@@balthasardenner5216 Khadija literally said in the video it's fine to feel upset about things like that too, just hold space to be upset about X issues too if you're claiming you're all about X issues. I like animation too hun, nobodies taking away our passion for animation.
@@balthasardenner5216 OP said “me.” That’s how they feel about it. You can feel however you want to about it. Nothing in their comment was an attack on anyone.
At a time where women in Palestine are using tent materials as hygiene products, and women in the DR congo are SA regularly, the way you broke down intersectionality is just inspiring..because the out-of-touchedness is WILD and people want to talk about “why can’t we discuss the oscar’s without you complaining” or “oh we can’t discuss ANYTHING without bringing up your issues huh?” It’s kind of like saying “I want to stop people from getting rained on!” and then focusing on the drizzle in your neighborhood with a hurricane taking place over in the next.
I mean, things are relative and I don’t understand why people can’t do both. Like of course I don’t agree with the online discourse centering white women- for example by acting like the Barbie movie thing is as important as more dire situations for women in the world; but also I don’t think it’s abnormal for people to just talk about what’s happening in pop culture for fun too. Like im in the midwest usa and if I’m at a party or something and all I’m talking about is women getting sa’d in the dr of Congo it’s important, but not relative to the time and place to only focus on that. People can have duality. Online places like Twitter are just an extension of talking so I don’t get why people can’t engage in both light and serious conversation like they would irl.
Yes yes yes and big YES for everything
Margot Robbie even put out a statement saying she’s ok with what happened which is exactly what I was expecting.
Same. I feel you. It's okay if the film didn't win, because not all films will win. What I'm saying is the film, did what It needed to do, and that's that. This stuff happens every year, and people need to relax a bit.
@@twiggledowntown3564 That's the crazy thing: nobody else batted an eye. It was until the white girl Twitter/Tumblr feminists said something that this became such a hot-button topic.
Im so sick of people caring about the Oscars. They're made by hollywood elite for hollywood elite. I don't get why are people upset?
because when you're caring about Oscar nominations, you're not thinking about important things. Its a manufactured distraction
The oscars were created to make actors shut up and feel grateful. It was a tactic to union bust. I hate the oscars too.
It only makes sense that people who liked / resonated with the Barbie movie care about Oscars. They're trying to overthrow the patriarchy by winning at patriarchy.
Winning an oscar can be beneficial for indie filmmakers to make a name for themselves, it makes it easier to secure fundings for their future projects and continue making new original movies, some film buffs care because they want their favorite lesser-known artists and filmmakers to get recognized so they can see more of them in the future.
But yes, Margot and Greta do not need this recognition at this point, they literally made the most money out of everyone last year lol they don't need these awards to secure their future. But you are also right that Oscar is made by the elite for the elite, just pointing out why some regular folks care.
@ziggystardusk it's interesting how many people don't think about the added credentials nominations get you in the workplace. But then again, I doubt the same people read the credits as well unless their favorite content creator tells them.
You know that we're going in the wrong direction when Barbie is considered "the voice of feminism". As Sid once said: "we're going to die!!"
Right. Barbie wasn't a collective win for all of us 🤦🏽...
Metaphorically, Barbie was people starting their training wheels while some of us have been on regular bikes for a while now. We can be glad they’re finally riding along… but let’s not act like they’re still using training wheels.
Barbie is fine if people loved the film, maybe it has SOME good ideas ... but on the other hand, a film churned out by massive media corporations based on a corporate product (Barbie toys) to rake in billions should not be the main voice of feminism, agreed. It's a very capitalist, consumerist way of looking at empowerment.
@@lordfreerealestate8302 exactly. The fact that Mattel was involved in the movie tells us everything. They clearly knew this movie would help with the consumerism angle. They spent more money on marketing this movie that it took to make it.
@@CaulkMongler And the thing is if the training wheels are made by a mega corporation that exploits workers and pollutes the environment they're not great training wheels. Not saying they're not training wheels, they are, but they're not training wheels that I love and doesn't mean there can't be (or couldn't have been) other, better training wheels.
It's wild that people still think the Oscars represent some sort of Nobel Prize for actors. It's a marketing event, bought and paid for by the producers and distributors. The fact we take it seriously is part of the problem. I wish there was some better way to give gifted actors their flowers.
no movies i like are ever on there. Award for Barbarian? Talk to me? I liked I, Tonya better than Barbie!!
Yeah its a mess. Money and politics.
Period, end of story.
I loved Barbie! It was super fun.
.....but it was really confusing to me that people thought it was Oscar worthy??
It didn't highlight anything new. It wasn't even a new commentary on an old issue. It was cheeky and fun, and i appreciated all of the Barbie cameos of the dolls i actually owned... but if this movie was a feminist awakening for anyone... They must have been living under a rock for the last century.
Great movie. Not an Oscar movie though. Odd current event to take issue with.
Lol I've seen some people respond by saying "not everyone is privileged enough to know that much about feminism" 😂 cringe
@@annamurray412the only people that barbie should surprise is men 😭 it was kinda a mind fuck to see an all women supreme court and things like that, so i think that was fun
I think that people forget that the Oscars are supposed to be about excellence in filmmaking, not for making any kind of political or social statement. Barbie's set design, practical sets and effects, hair and makeup (mostly hair, the wigs are amazing), and costumes are all amazing and deserve to be celebrated because they display excellence in their craft. America and Ryan's performances deserve to be celebrated for displaying excellence in their craft.
I think Margot's performance was excellent, but I don't think the writing showcased her range. It happens. I do think Greta should have been nominated for director because film is kind of a director's medium, but I don't really care enough to complain lol.
As a cinephile, this whole thing has been baffling to me.
They were. That rock is called being white in America.
@@annamurray412 oh you’ll be surprised how women still think feminism is anti-man. Barbie is feminism 101 but imo it did a good job of explaining what feminism actually is
Yo off topic but I gasped in black disbelief earlier today when my coworker referred to me as “colored” in the most friendly manner
👁️👄👁️ I-…
Girl, same. And when we told my coworker that was inappropriate, they thought that it was a better word than saying "Black". I'm tryna figure out when has the word "Black" be a bad thing?
People of color is the 21st century term for colored. I truly don’t see it as any different
@@lovablecharacter8167I'd guess if you're sheltered, "people of color" and "colored people" look similar. And a friend in Singapore told me that "black" is an Asian way to be racist against India? So I can see how someone might get things wrong, but... Did they listen to you in good faith? Did they actually learn anything?
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 hmm, I guess I can see that. It was a white person and yea, she was just like "oh shit, I didn't know. My bad, def won't do that again." So it was all good
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! Imagine being an American Indigenous person nominated for an Oscar and instead of all these women celebrating you they are crying over two specific women not getting nominated (which is not totally true, as you said, since they will get producer cred. and have won in terms of being the biggest blockbuster of the year). It's truly so frustrating that this perceived "snub" is being centred and not these other historic nominations... like you're allowed to feel your feelings but PLEASE don't take away the focus from these other amazing women!
Kinda the opposite side of the same coin, though
Yes these women are excelling at their jobs, but that'll be true whether they get nominated or awarded or not
imagine bening Justine Triet and directing an absolute banger like Anatomy of a Fall which her own government actively snubbed due to her politics, and seeing all these white women being angry over... Barbie.
@@K.C-2049 Because the success of Barbie makes the female snub undeniable. I'm so done with this endless "sure she was snub but whatabout XYZ" as if that makes it ANY better.
What we're looking at here is women taking joy in Barbie being snubbed because "white women deserve to feel what a snub feels like" as if white women don't experience sexism on the daily too.
Crabs in a bucket mentality ruling here.
It’s kinda indicative of pop culture feminism though. People don’t care about actual principles to stand on, they only care about optics and their favorites
Lily Gladstone is the 4th indigenous American to be nominated for best actress. The other 3 are Merle Oberon (The Dark Angel, 1935), Keisha Castle-Hughes (Whale Rider, 2003), and Yalitza Aparicio (Roma, 2018).
I would say another important reason you should understand white feminism is that once you know what it is, you realize other civil rights groups have their own form of "white feminism" and subgroups of "white feminism". Queerness in public discourse tends to center Gay white cis men. Blackness centers straight cis black men. Conservative politicians have mastered pandering to poor white people making them feels as if they are the forgotten majority and implying that minorities are getting everything they're owed.
I've kind of concluded that in a white cis straight patriarchal capitalist hegemony, the people who are only one or two descriptors away from being part of the hegemony are the ones most likely to get attention. Its partly laziness on the part of the hierarchy, only helping the people one step below them because it requires the least amount of structural work and change, partly because those people only one step down don't think broadly enough and assume that if they get equality then everyone in their group will gain equality, and partly because some people are just selfish and only care about their own well being and success.
No
@@OliverNorth9729Expand on your brain fart?
Just wanted to add “Christian, but not _too_ Christian” to that hierarchy list
this is such a sound analysis - ty for sharing
@@OliverNorth9729yes
The crazy thing is, in the exact same year, in the exact same categories, the same thing happened to 2 Asian women. Past Lives, nominated for Best Pic. The director, Celine Song, and lead actress Greta Lee, did not get nominated. NOBODY said anything about them!! WTF?!?!
Because not that many people have seen Past Lives. I'm not saying that should be the case, but that is the case.
Which is honestly a perfect example of how white feminism is just shallow feminism. It only cares if you have the proper complexion and aren't overly intersectional
tbf it was pretty bad, eeaao was much better and I believe they were nominated. Would be surprised if not.
I'm brazilian, and more specifically, from Rio de Janeiro. In some parts of the city we're having +10 hours blackouts because the heat is ABSURD in here, and the energy company wasn't able to handle the amount of AC that is being used. It was always one of the hottest cities in the country, but fucking global warming is literally killing some of us. The energy company responsible for Rio's power somehow (even with all the fucking money they have) can't solve the problem soon enough. There are some generators spread around some neighborhoods but that is still not enough. So we're having heat waves that are over 45ºC in some parts of the city, and still no power. Food is spoiling, people are having migraines, higher blood pressure and other health related issues, all because we have no access to power. Hospitals are barely working with generators (which means that sometimes, the infirmary or maternity in some public hospitals, have no air conditioner). And I know our situation is not even close to being as bad as some other places in the world. All of this to say THANK YOU, Khadija, to talking about it and opening this discussion about white feminism. I'm a white person, and I have a lot of privileges, but not even that can save me from what we face here, in the global south. It's so "funny" to see people so worked up about something so frivolous (even if I understand where they're coming from) when I don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight and wake up slightly decent enough to go to work, or if my blood pressure will elevate so much, from both heat and stress, I might pass out.
Thank you for this reality check! My sister and her family live in southwestern Mexico, and they deal with many of the same issues every summer, not to mention a couple of hurricanes a year. Meanwhile, as a dirt poor Canadian, the heat in my apartment broke this winter during a cold snap, and my lousy landlord didn't get it fixed for over a week when nighttime temperatures were going below -20 C, before windchill. I was wearing 5 layers of clothes and piling all the blankets I own, plus my parka on my bed so I didn't freeze at night. There are a whole lot of people all over the world with more important things to worry about than whether the movie about the hyper-sexy pink doll got its Oscar nominations!
@@thing_under_the_stairs I’m so sorry to hear that! I really hope your situation gets better, my friend. No one deserves to suffer from climate and things we can’t control, not with the technology we already have.
Rio is one of the richest places in South America, and it's a measurably better place to live than most under-served regions in the US. There's more than enough money there to build and maintain the power plants and electric grid to support the AC units. What this is, is evidence of how Brazilian "elites" (read: the relatively few white folks from "traditional" families who have an outsize influence in politics) repeatedly sabotage themselves by diverting funds and resources away from community development and infrastructure to line their own pockets instead. What's the point of having a fancy apartment with a fancy AC if those were built with money that should've gone to a new power plant and electric grid expansion that's supposed to make the darned thing work in the first place? But that would benefit poor people, and poor people are "lazy", "incompetent", and "undeserving of being rewarded", so the kind of development that would benefit everyone never gets done. Rich Brazilians would rather hire personal security details and bulletproof their cars than invest in public education. Even middle-to-high class Brazilians would rather vote for literal mafiosos that keep the city violent just because they're not leftist and they promote austerity politics and give more power to churches, instead of increased spending on public services and infrastructure.
Oh my god, I feel so bad for the pregnant women, babies, elderly, disabled, homeless and poor in Rio.
I've never liked hot weather and these past few months my cousin has been explaining how oppressive heat can really get and it gave me anxiety thinking I could find myself in that situation.
@@tubebrocoli I was being more simplistic (especially since I was pretty pissed and tired lol) but that’s it, you nailed it.
white feminism is thinking that publicly crying about your fav actress not being nominated for an Oscar is a form of protest. in an alternative universe, maybe the same people could be putting the same energy into calling a ceasefire
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the fact that this blew up to the point where hillary felt confident about inserting herself into the conversation says it all to me. that tweet infuriates me much more than whoever these award shows decided to snub this year.
Hilary never fails to have L takes. Same as when she went on The View and preached Israeli propaganda when >10,000 Palestinians had been killed. She needs to stop talking to the public and stick to her Goldman Sachs speeches ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This. I feel exactly this.
Patriarchy sure brings out the toxic masculinity in white feminist women
Some corrections as this video wasn’t fact-checked:
1.) Lilly is the first indigenous American woman to be nominated
2.) Sojourner Truth maybe didn’t say that…🥴
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I'm not Rafia Zakaria but I'm pretty sure it's pronounced with ia like Zakarijja, not ia like Zachariah.
Not that big a thing, but technically Sojourner has never been recorded saying "Ain't I a Woman?" in her original speech. The phrase actually originated from a version written up by a white lady 10 years later (ironically enough, a noted feminist of the era who did try to include black women in the movement) who reworded everything to give her a more exaggerated Southern slave dialect.
@@circleman628thank you, all of this the fact that white women wanted to centre themselves as superior and were uncomfortable with her intelligence she was Dutch speaking and the white women decided she needed to be recorded as being ignorant.
Little t trauma and big T Trauma don’t have to do with the amount of trauma or how “bad” it is, little t trauma is more sustained over a long period of time like abuse, big T Trauma is generally one catastrophic incident like an assault or accident. I don’t mean to be pedantic, I promise, I just think it’s important to use the language of therapy properly because so many people love to co-opt and misuse it.
I am apparently spacey today cuase I saw this comment/their username and was like oh hey I watch their videos sometimes lol thank you for the great content and posting a comment with the corrections
6:49 just clarifying, indigenous person from what’s now the USA. Technically I believe it was Yalitza Aparicio Martínez from Roma who was the first indigenous nomination.
Thank you was just about to comment this myself. Put some respect on Yalitza’s name
No, it was Jocelyn LaGuarde. She was the first indigenous woman to get an Oscar nomination.
@@TacticusPrimeFrench Polynesia has never been a part of the United States
@@gothgammy666 She was still an indigenous person. Yalitza doesn't count either then. She's from Mexico.
@@TacticusPrimeMexicans are mostly Native Americans. Native American is a racial class to describe people of indigenous blood of the Americans. Mexico is a nation state brought about by European colonialism. Native Americans exist from the Artic to the tip of South America. Somo Los Mismos! we are the same!
"Ryan Gosling being nominated, but not Margot Robbie and Greta Gerwig, perfectly explains to me why we aren't in the 8th year of Hillary Clinton's presidency." That is the dumbest shit I have ever heard.
How so 😅
Why? They're right. HiIIary was terrible but she was so clearly less terribIe than Trump, and misogyny is one of the many reasons she lost. Misogyny is also a reason why Ryan Gosling would be nominated instead of Margot given the context of the movie
Not Margo showing more class than everyone involved 😩
I watched Barbie but I didn't get the hype that others did. It did piss me off when I saw white women really complain about how Margot didn't get an Oscar nom when she got one for producing and ask them who needed to go in the best actress category. I wanted to ask them if they had seen all the films so they could tell me which actress should have been cut.
I couldn’t finish the movie. The complaints are giving Susan B Anthony 😂
So many white women also just didn’t watch any other Oscar nominated movies last year outside of Barbie and maybe Oppenheimer, and they want to start talking about snubs? It’s so weird, just because you liked a movie doesn’t mean it deserves an award.
I watched it and really liked it, but it was certainly not Oscar level acting lol.
I saw it last month, it was a fun movie but I wasn't thinking too deeply about it. 🤷🏿
@lita313-As a white woman, i agree with you. I enjoyed Barbie, & thought it was a fun comedy that made me laugh a few times, but i didn't think it was that special, & don't understand why people are so upset about Margot Robbie not being nominated for best actress. To be honest I was more shocked at Greta Lee being snubbed for her fantastic performance in Past Lives.
End of the day, complaining that a movie that earned $1.5B at the box office didn't get nominations for actress and director (even though both Gerwig and Robbie were nominated this year) is just a silly distraction. It's still very hard for women artists to make movies, still a challenge to get them into theaters and properly promoted, still a challenge for those women artists to get appropriately compensated, still a challenge for them to avoid discrimination/sexual violence, etc. And that's just considering the rich, successful White women in the industry. I hope we understand how much we overlook when we pick on something this trivial.
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Idk, I’m kind of wondering why we can’t do both I guess
...fair enough I suppose 🤷🏽
@@Sarah-re7cg You can do whatever you want, but one of those two is a deep, systemic problem that can easily get buried under viral hot takes, and the other is one of those hot takes. The blowup over Barbie's Oscar snubs proves that we can do both, but we can't do both at the same time very well.
@@chocolatespuds this wasn’t Margot’s best work nor the writer
I didn’t give a flying cooter about the barbie/oscar drama but when Khadija posts about it im tuning in☕️
Not a flying cooter 😂😂😂
It’s an interesting parallel in the situation between Margo and Greta and the situation with Taraji P. Henson. Margo and Greta never even complained about the lack of Oscar nominations for them personally but so many people rushed to their defense. Meanwhile, Taraji is talking about the well-known pay inequities black women face and she in many instances was either ignored, mocked, or got a lot of pushback as to why she doesn’t deserve more pay, often from other black people.
Everyone wants to protect white women, even if the white women themselves did not ASK to be protected. See : Sophie Turner, Taylor Swift, etc. It's very easy for people to worship white women, since they are seen as "frail, fragile, and delicate," even when they promote a brand of "girl boss feminism." Black women, on the other hand, are seen as "strong, angry, s*xually promiscuous, ungrateful, lazy, unintelligent, need to know their place," etc, etc. (This can apply to brown women too, especially very dark skinned brown women.) We are not seen as innocent damsels in distress who "need to be saved" even when we don't ask for it, like white (and also light skinned Asian women) are seen as. See : the difference between the way people treat Meghan Markle and Kate, the difference between the treatment of Sophie Turner and Jada Pinkett after it was found out what their husbands did to them, the difference between the treatment of, say, Taylor Swift and Megan Thee Stallion. Taylor is even taller than Megan is, but nobody calls her "a man, tall, strong and muscled, masculine," etc. But Taylor IS seen as the peak of femininity, even though her dressing is not actually high femme (street style) whereas Megan is ALWAYS dressed hyperfeminine (long nails, long hair, full face of makeup, very tall heels, tight revealing clothing, etc.) Megan will always be seen as masculine whereas Taylor Swift will always be seen as feminine even if she goes out with no makeup on, hair up, in a suit + wearing boots/sneakers/workout gear.
khadija,
i don’t know if you’ll see this. i just want to tell you- i am 19 years old. i deeply appreciate your nuanced takes and your critical thinking- on both political topics and more philosophical ones, and the way you combine them. i have a hard time understanding all of this stuff, but you have such a talent for teaching. i’m actually picking up what you’re laying down, i’m hearing what you’re saying and understanding and internalizing it. you offer a place for me to listen and really think.
i just want you to know that you’re helping me learn and helping me figure out the person i want to/am going to become. thank you. thank you.
You should check out Fab Socialism :-) 👍🏾😬
I joined my first feminist group when I was in college. All of the other members were Vegan White Women. They never really made me feel welcomed, and I gave up on them after a year. I went on to continue to be a feminist, and I now hold a nice position in my career field by fighting for my rights, but I definitely understand the heat of “White Feminism”, it makes the room uncomfortable for everyone else.
Haven’t lived this, but have seen it repeatedly in white liberal circles. It’s all about equality until, god forbid, a black woman gets a position of authority. As soon as that happens, everything is in question, and nothing is respected, despite the ongoing lip service.
What's wrong with being vegan? :( We just want animals to have better lives and for us to stop killing the planet. For every obnoxious or mean vegan person I've ever met in person, I've met 10 people who get aggressive and make fun of you when they find out you're "one of those people"
++++++….Same
I wouldn't really care if Barbie got zero nominations. This is the very definition of #firstworldproblems
More like #The10%Problems 😅 cuz most of us here in the first world don't have a chance at sweeping floors at the Oscar's let alone a nomination lol at least half of Hollywood's elite are nepotism babies anyways
hard agree, the oscars is just another marketing sticker for a movie: 'look, this movie is an oscar winner it hasss to be good blah blah blah'; we been know
Your description of white feminism helped me articulate what infuriates me about Taylor Swift and the stances she chooses to take with the immense power she has versus what she chooses to stay silent on. It’s classic white feminism
intersectional feminism is the ONLY feminism. EXACTLY what she said about initiative-- I think so many 'white woman feminists' are focused on this Oscar "snub" because it's what gets put in front of us-- most don't take the initiative to look into the successes OR the suffering of non-white and/or non-cis women. we HAVE to have media literacy. white feminists are in a unique position where we often have more opportunity to center attention, awareness and support on less empowered women and sleeping on that is not activism, and not feminism.
very true!!!
you lose the plot for intersectionality and feminism when you start using words like "cis" and centering men with false identities.
Khadija!! The "Ain't I a woman" speech was written by a white woman. Let me explain. The speech that we know of was written at least 12 or more years AFTER Sojourner Tuth had done her speech. A white woman by the name of Frances Dana Barker Gage did the speech we know of and used a lot of Slave dialect to get her point across because she was an abolitionist.
From what I've read about it, (and I could be wrong), Frances Gage's version was a heavily edited transcription of Soujourner Truth's speech. There are parts of the original in there, but they're buried under a pile of White Feminism.
@@thing_under_the_stairs You are correct!
Just wanted to add that The Sojourner Truth Project has a site dedicated to teaching about her speech and comparing the two versions.
I was already familiar with this, but still. Damn. White women/ppl back at it again with representing blackness the way they see fit.
It had to be written by a white woman, because Sojourner was illiterate and spoke primarily Dutch.
Honestly the more "important" Mattel's Long Form Advertisement has become, the less I like it. At first it was just a cute movie with a corporate approved message on feminism that was nice to see because even shallower talks on feminism are hard to get into media with corporate meddling. But this entire debacle is exhausting and has made it hard to even like the movie casually for me. You really hit the nail on the head in this vid.
I agree with you on all but one thing. It's not a movie. It's a short film...about 30 minutes long and the rest of it was screaming in my face what it thought I needed to learn...and then the sad song at the end to tell me how to feel. Miss me with this. IMHO
Exactly how I feel
I came into the Barbie movie anticipating white feminism, not that that's the reason I dislike it, but, boy, that white feminism sure is bleeding into real life.
I'm working with my campus film group to highlight some female filmmakers for women's history month, and they spent a full 15 minutes talking about greta gerwig's snub for barbie. and yet when i mentioned justine triet, not a single person had heard of her. i think it's so true that people crave outrage more than they care about celebration
Personally, I’m upset that Maestro was so celebrated in the Oscar’s despite Bradley cooper donning a big fake nose to play a Jewish person and Carey mulligan playing a Costa Rican woman. Big old yikes from me.
oof that is a big yikes. to see Carey go from Promising Young Woman to that without batting an eye is definitely white feminism.
The woman Carey played was still white. She was just born in Costa Roca so I think it's still fine that she played her
His wife was white, so. And his family approved all prosthetic work on the film, so move your manufactured outrage elsewhere.
@@JJ-gr9yz I know that his family approved the prosthetics, but myself and other Jewish people still find it offensive. Not all Jews agree on everything. I'm glad they got his children's approval, but that doesn't change how I (and many other people) feel about it.
@@ladonnakalalaThere are white latinas who could have played the role.
The quote ‘you are not the only person suffering, and your suffering is not the center of the universe’ echoed so deeply in my mind. Thank you for this analysis and opportunity to check my white feminist antics!
“Some of y’all just watch these videos” 😭😭
🙋🏾♀️ shameless lol
@@miaomiaou_ honesty- you’re so real for that lol. I was the same until I used their video for a class project and actually looked at and read through their sources. They give great recs lol
Gagged me. But they're right😭
@@monjuee honestly that line got me feeling motivated to start reading like my middle school self again
Lily Gladstone is actually the first Indigenous American! Yalitza Aparicio is an Indigenous Mexican and was nominated for Best Actress in 2019 for her role in Roma. Both incredible people to celebrate! Your point still 1000% stands, just want to make sure they all get their flowers ❤
And, it seems, a woman from Tahiti got a supporting actress Oscar nomination back in 1966/67- Jocelyne LaGarde
Lil is not the fist indigenous American. Native American or Indigenous American applies to all indigenous peoples of the Americans. Even mixed bloods who've been pressed down under false colonial labels of "Latino and Hispanic". Mexico is a nation state brought about by European colonialism. learn the difference between race and nationality.
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i think this video will fill in some of the reasoning behind my slight disappointment after watching the barbie movie. even though i loved i know its flawed but i didn't really know how to articulate properly its flaws until now. white feminism. i guess it always leads back to that.
I didn't even like it because of all the white feminism. I haven't admitted that up til now but I wasn't entertained at all. I found it predictable and whiny
At least you watched it, I was seeing all the reviews on how it's a feminist and cultural milestone that's a must-watch for all and I was like "What lesson on feminism will I learn from the Barbie movie that it hasn't been discussed at length in black female media already?"
But props to them for setting a the cultural tone for the summer last year.
same!! It also just barely scratches the surface of feminism,, its a very vague, liberal approach
@@peachesandpoets i got sm shit on ig for saying “barbie” was the same white girlboss feminist garbage as everything else hollywood has been producing this past decade. it was so mediocre with the writing and storytelling; i was only entertained with ken before the main plot even started 💀😭
Exactly, Greta Gerwig can be praised for managing to add some meaning and thematic weight to what could've been just a merchandise-driven cash-grab, and at the same time we should be able to acknowledge the limitations in her exploration of those ideas by virtue of her being a well-off white woman
12:14 I was shocked by the lack of nominations from ‘The Colour Purple’ and ‘Origin’.
I think Origin missed the nomination deadline. Meanwhile The Color Purple definitely should’ve gotten its flowers!
Yes, Toni Collette did deserve an Oscar for Hereditary.
oh this is PERFECT, a girl in my workplace was just complaining about the oscars and i wanted to have a conversation about how that's. not necessarily the biggest crime against women currently happening. but i couldn't find the right words for what i was trying to get across. sending this to her now! we work in a queer woman owned tattoo shop but we do also live in a wealthy northern european country so it's gonna be a 50/50 chance for the point to get across i fear 🥴
i assumed from the outcry that greta gerwig hadn't been nominated for an oscar for her work on barbie. but she has? for writing it? i do think the directing was better than the writing but there are 2 writing categories and just one for directing so
This part
Khadija did you hear that sojourner truth never actually said the line "ain't I a woman" in her address and it was added later by a Dutch colleague to make her sound more, uh, black?
I should fact check this but I got it from FD Signifier
Damnn lol
Reina (my fact checker) wasn’t working on this video lol
@KhadijaMbowe ik isn't that fucked? I love ur videos BTW ❤
The Sojourner Truth Project has a site all about her true speech and the altered one .
excited to watch! i’m tired of people exaggerating the impact of the barbie movie because their politic doesn’t extend beyond white feminism. the cis white woman lens really obstructs what we recognize as profound; for me the barbie movie was just a campy movie about white cis gender norms, which had some queer themes and messages around gender but, again, from the limited cis and white worldview. america ferrera’s monologue was not that deep (wasn’t terrible but it was so bare bones) and people overall ignore all that is wrong with this movie (racist, anti-Indigenous jokes for one) just to make themselves feel better about the fact that they too have a limited perspective on the world. i enjoyed the movie and gave it 4 stars, myself, i think maybe lowered it to 3.5, but that’s for everything BUT the plot and writing 🤭 aesthetically and production-wise-amazing. otherwise, i’m truly exhausted by the ways we commend white people for doing less than the bare minimum and outrage when they get “snubbed” because we’re assuming they inherently deserve to win. we need to interrogate the defaulting to the status quo for awards. there isn’t as much celebration for Lily Gladstone winning as there is outrage for Margot Robbie not winning. also Barbie still won awards and Margot is a producer of Barbie! she won too! rich cis women will be fine when they lose oscars, y’all.
anyways, more Black and Indigenous stories. tired of white, attempting-to-be-self-aware (but not actually enough to make an impact beyond white validity and comfortability politics and divest from desirability and racism in the very script) movies. and i’m excited to actually watch this video, lmao.
what were the racist jokes ?
@@glasstablegcrlsI'm curious about this too! I didn't remember anything being brought up about race at all in the movie. Genuinely curious what they meant but no hate ❤
I watched Barbie twice in theatres and didn't pick up on any anti-indigenous jokes or racist jokes. Do you remember what they did/said? I actually think Barbie has a deeper message about agency in life/Plato's Cave than I think people give it credit. Lately I've been trying to enjoy and critique things for what they are rather than what they aren't, so when I see online left critiques of Barbie not being a billion dollar blockbuster that checks every particular box they have I just wonder what movie have they seen that does or what would that movie look like?
@@grosebud4721 I believe the main thing is that there was an odd comment about smallpox blankets? America Ferrerra’s character says that Barbie hasn’t been “inoculated” to the real world and for some reason brings up indigenous people dying from smallpox. It was just odd and flippant and out of place. It’s not the most offensive thing ever, and it’s small, but it is just. Strange, I guess, and makes sense that it would make people somewhat uncomfortable, because it’s just a weird choice they didn’t have to make
THANK YOUUUU movie was so blah and overhyped and i’m sick of keeping it to myself
I swear when Hilary entered the chat I was like "I dont remember asking you a damn thing Hilary!!!" 😤
The Entitlement 😭 child…They can’t bare the thought of not being worshipped with every breathing second.
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So you're saying any woman who feels snubbed is complaining out of a sense of entitlement. Transfer that over to all the women of color who also feel snubbed. I guess you're calling that a sense of entitlement too.
@@thornyback Did you even watch the video?
@@thornybacklmao so salty
@thornyback you're reaching my guy. Take a breath, speak to a friend (hint: who doesn't hate women)and re watch the video.
There are the women in the USA right now who being forced to have babies they don't want and a lot of don't have our body autonomy anymore. But we are big mad over the toy selling movie. It's seeing the trees for the forest.
Because women are bored, we’ve come a long way from being in the 1950s where women are trapped in marriages. MOST of you are not forced to have babies, and many men fully support you and the control of your body. You talk as if you don’t have the privilege of being in the 21st century, I simply don’t understand this attack on every single aspect of modern culture.
Especially when the alternatives lack substance. It’s just yelling to yell…
I am so glad the algorithm led my white Australian eyes to your channel. You really articulated some of the vague uneasiness I’ve felt about current media landscape of Oscar nom bs amidst graphic warfare coverage. Like the hierarchies of concern are so ludicrous. Thank you for making this. You make me laugh while teaching me about intersectional experience from experience and I appreciate that so much.
Whatever rights are enjoyed under patriarchy and savage capitalism are not given, they were and are fought for. Stop fighting and they will die in silence. But a lot of us get lulled into comfort, we think that rights are solidified, that they can't be taken away, we are under the impression that we've "made it". And when we wake up out of our slumber, we use the tools we know, the inspirational quotes on the t-shirt, the tweets, the empty rethoric. So, my fellow white ladies of a certain age, our first act of fighting back is to educate ourselves and stop clutching our pearls or making it about our own lives. It's the only way. White women have, knowingly ot not, been instrumental in maintaining and promoting patriarchy and savage capitalism, so we have to work to take it down to let something better take root.
2:02 “Do you have to be white in order to participate in white feminist antics? *HINT* *HINT* No, you don’t~~!”
The truth of this! My mom is Mexican and she is a white feminist!
mexicans are not a race
This was such a good wake up call for me, I wasn't aware I was falling into white supremacy feminism, "Don't judge yourself too harshly but also, you know better, do better"
"Stretch your empathy" 24:00 well said. Its easy to react to the things that are closest to us, race, gender all of what we see in ourselves included. But we are not safe until we are all safe. I try and will try more to step back and see a bigger picture.
👋 mutual aid organizer from a small southern city here, to ‘yes and’ everything said here most ppl should even learn to stretch empathy (exp when applying their feminism) to vulnerable women in their own town/city/whatever because I guarantee most ppl in the so called ‘US/Canada’ have unhoused neighbors- buying a box of pads/tampons for someone costs 5-10$ (literally the amount of a coffee nowadays) and you probably walk past an unhoused person on the daily. If they may menstrual ask, if they dont they likely will say “give me the pads/tampons anyway bc I know someone who can use them”. If someone cares about feminism as much as they care about the feminism the barbie presents then its really a small thing you can do to make someones month so much easier. (Literally trying to get food, go to get social services, apply/interview for a job is so much easier when this barbie isnt having to free bleed on the streets). (Also some caveats, not shaming anyone here, I have friends who support mutual aid in diff ways if they cant get out on the streets by donating/crocheting hats/helping w social posts/coordinating others to come out or providing carework for folks who do provide mutual aid bc its extremely rewarding but also extremely emotionally exhausting. Another caveat is that doing this isnt a fill in for being a social worker but trying to bridge some of the gaps instead- my roommates job is w women exp domestic abuse and we do very diff things in the same sect. Final caveat is that I may use women above as a shorthand for ppl who menstruate not all women menstruate (older women, trans women, etc) but are still women (re: most of these women will be down to pass along the products to another woman they know) and not all ppl who menstruate are women (Im trans, a good portion of my coorganizers are trans). Anyway menstrual products should be a human right and cause no one else will we’ve gotta keep our communities as safe and comfortable as we can 🫶. (I dont normally comment on these posts but I figured Id add on to the excellent points in the video w some perspective I have, loved the video essay)
Mattel is and has been vocally supportive of I$realhell, and the CEO has specifically stated his support for a Nozi ethnostate.
Relevant in the conversation. A layer.
Pls tell your room it is pretty and your cat I said hello, and have a sip of a drink you like just so much❤
Lmao bryan shubbup shub the fubbup
This is what every pre send nudes text sounds like 😂
No the horror/comedy point is super interesting and speaks to what stories we prioritize and what is sanitized as worthy of praise idk
@@LucifersfursonaI think this is the wrong video 😭
it really bugged me when I first saw all of those memes about Margot and Greta being snubbed and then I went and I looked at the nomination list and saw that they did get nominated, just not for the nominations that people wanted them to get nominated for. and then omitting the fact that America Ferreira got a nomination that was equal in value to the nomination that Ryan got just really put the nail in the coffin for me for this BS. It's outrage bait that really makes anybody who's really mad about it look pretty dumb to the opposite political side. it's like becoming straw so that they can build a straw man.
Lily Gladstone absolutely deserves the Oscar for Killers of the Flower Moon, a film that highlights the ongoing murder of indigenous women in America. Her nomination does deserve to be celebrated. Sandra Huller was also amazing in Anatomy of a Fall. Barbie's plastic binary gender norms don't stand up.
Just a heads up, Lily Gladstone is not the first indigenous American actress to be nominated for best actress. That's actually Yalitza Aparicio Martínez for the film Roma in 2018.
Jocelyn LaGuarde doesn't count?
@@TacticusPrime Jocelyne LaGarde was a Tahitian native. Not a native from the Americans
Honestly the costume design and production design awards are the ones I care about for this movie bc the crew that made the visuals ate that shit up.
I remember sitting in the movie theater and when the movie rolls to the clips of mothers around the world having times with their child and almost all kinds of races of women could be seen there except a single Asian mother.
I never thought about learning and awareness about "far away issues" as an act of empathy and kindness. I tried to distancr myself from traumatic situations overseas because i cant "do" anything about it but that helped me reframe that just learning itself is an act of extending empathy.
That little head of your cat bumping into you is ssoooo sweet, I'm crying 🥺💖 also : " you care more about the optics of feminism then you do about actual feminism" like that's the truth there... I think you have your finger on it there.. also I think it aplies to many things in our society, many aspects of our live...as Mayowa (from Mayowa's World said) "bring back integrity".
Recently watched 'First wives club'. I think it was a great insight into rich white feminism
I watched that movie too. I will admit the movie is funny and entertaining. But you right about it being in their rich white feminist bag.
Khadija, that interstellar-inspired closing statement 😂🫡😭 I love that movie too!
I appreciate this so much Khadija! One thing that I kept thinking about while watching this is the celebrity bubble that mention. A lot of us are under the impression that these celebrities are like us. That their wins are ours and their success is somehow something that all of us own. But, to be honest with you, I don't really think that most of these people, outside of contibuting art, can or will do anything that would materially benefit us normal folks. When push comes to shove, when it's time to REALLY show up, they won't. They don't care. They live in their own little bubble, their life is largely disconnected from our own realities. We all seem to think that celebs and activism go hand in hand because of the recent social media boom and the recent events. But, frankly, most of them say the most basic things that would earn them brownie points with the public, while never really endangering their position in society or their acccess to their wealth and influeence. What's been happening in Palestine is a prime example of that. So many people have either completely forgone saying anything or have had a delayed response, once speaking out became less edgy as the atrocities piled on. This was a moment where real consequences would have befallen these celebrities. They, in fact, DID befall celebrities who spoke out earlier. And yet, I find myself constantly having these conversations with people to remind that celebrities are not your friends. That the ones who are on the A-list of hollywood, so widely influential within society will never truly be your allies. Stop focusing on their shit. They won't care about yours. Take them for the art they make. Leave the rest.
I wish they have this same energy for Palestine women in danger
Oh yes! Against White Feminism is one of the best books I've read about feminism (and I am a uni gender studies prof so...). It reads easy as a novel and delivers each punch to the system sooooo accurately and effectively. I love her.
Promising Young Woman is one of my favorite movies. The Barbie Movie is an advertisement for Mattel. It isn't nuanced. It is a bastion of white feminism suggesting that if women just "know" about the patriarchy, we can girlboss our way out of it. Intersectionality and structural inequality get erased. The only awards Barbie deserves are those for costuming and set design.
Thank you 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾💅🏾
It's not even white feminism, it's so basic it barely deserves to be called feminism. The most feminist thing about it was the women, the themes and story were fully in support of patriarchy.
Huh, maybe it is about white feminism, a lot of white women are strangely attached to letting men be in control
promising young woman is incredible!! but sadly based on the criticism i've seen from it (from many people who loved barbie) it went over peoples heads
This is so the take. Barbie is so capitalism-coded feminism. It's fun but it takes no real risk in diving into the true implications of misogyny (Promising Young Women does this beautifully). Instead they tried to tackle a huge number of issues on a surface level, without ever making any poignant commentary on anything.
I mean I think PYW is kind of white feminism too, but at least it has the balls (lol so to speak) to go into the violence that even otherwise socio politically privileged women face, and doesn't shy away from implicating "all men" in participation or otherwise sympathy/complicity to that violence. Birds of Prey is one of my favourite white feminisms honestly, as all of the dudes just kind of suck, and it's just cathartic to watch those girlies team up and kick some ass.
I actually just learned in one of FD Signifiers videos the other day that the “ain’t I a woman” refrain in sojourners speech was added by a white woman because she thought it didn’t sound black enough. Yikes.
I really liked this video btw! You always bring a perspective that I don’t consider and challenge me to be more mindful 💪🏻
Your skin is always something that I strive to achieve, I have large pores and mild pigmentation (from working long hours outside, I’m in the military) and dry skin. I am treating my skin to the best of my abilities that I am in the states. Also, I saved a lot of your videos while I was on the 9 month deployment and I’m safe to say that you are what got me through deployment and I wish you good fortune and more insight. I enjoy and love your content!!!
I was just thinkin that this would be a great topic for you and/or fd signifier to talk about lol crazy coincidence 😂😂
“I read the material and have been reading the material. Some of y’all just watch these videos” THE SHADE OF IT ALL. I had to put my crochet needle down and spin in my chair one good time 😭 You gon educate us, but you gotta get that drag in every once in a while
I remember sharing a post about the snub, and I didn't even think. It's so good to be reminded to THINK about it. Lily Gladstone was wonderful. I appreciate the reminders. I'm still growing and it's so helpful to see that I wasn't considering the whole situation. Thanks!
thank you for the empathy talk. SO needed this rant/hope/fire starter. Your talk gives me hope. So tired of tears seeing that all this exploitation/pain/fear/death is so unnecessary. Thank you for showing me I'm not alone with the same passion. This voiceless chica is so very thankful for this and your channel.
Totally agree, Ryan's character was funnier and more nuanced than Margo's.
Thank you for explaining intersectionality so succinctly… and all of this ❤
I appreciate you and your content so much! You really have a way of challenging my opinions and expanding my thought processes.
I always find it interesting when the outrage to something negatively impacting a celebrity is far greater than something impacting normal women from here in America to Palestine to the DRC. The pedestal celebrities are put on immediately amplifies their struggles while we have to scream from the mountain tops about something negatively impacting non-famous women/people. It’s so exhausting.
THANK YOU!!!!!! A lot of these points you are making I'm so happy to hear coming from a channel that reaches this many people!!! SPEAK ON!!! and also, thank you for all the things you taught me here too... because, yes I learned too...
The flip side of white feminism ignoring intersectionality is the way it appropriates the issues of women of color for exclusionary goals. I still remember the time years ago I got into it with a TERF who was like, "Trans women aren't real women because they've never suffered from the practice of breast ironing!" And I was like... girl, you're a white lady from the Chicago suburbs, neither have you!!
Yall its the BARBIE movie. I'm suprised that it even got a best picture nomination. This is not the type of thing that that the oscars lot usually goes for. They do not like blockbuster stuff. Hell the only reason they're letting Oppenheimer in is because its about a prominant Jewish man. But yeah people just need to calm tf down. Greta and Margot don't even seem bothered so idk what people are pissed about.
Love u & your opinion & your sunshiningness. Thanks for your perspective. I'm grateful to u for continuing to teach & enlighten us the way I wish our education systems should've.
6:22 Oscars and its history towards Latinas? BeKindRewind has a great video essay on it.
(Happy for America Ferrera though)
anytime I see clips of Lily's performance I get full body chills, can't wait to watch the movie
Thanks Khadija, I needed to hear this ❤
Khadija, you are my morning coffee to start the week whether in Nairobi or Montreal. Thank you, thank you, thank you. ❤
I can already tell this is gonna be a video I put into my rewatch rotation
wake and bake and my sis, what won't he do 😂
Amen
Your energy girl is fantastic. Love you mwah. Thanks for illuminating these subjects. Wowsers
Thank you for this channel!
Oml Thank you for this video because I am stressed due to work.
You got this! Or it’s ashy and you got it anyway 💕
Thank you for chasing away my looming migraine! Smiles & chuckles are the best meds ❤ @@KhadijaMbowe
I think from a representation perspective, there's no reason to be concerned about Margot Robbie since the category is all women. No difference there. People just saw Barbie and didn't see those movies, people like their faves, whatever. But really I think the only reason this has gotten traction is the idea that it's particularly ironic (or fitting) for Ryan Gosling to get the Oscar nom over the highest-profile women because of the feminism 101 content of the movie (of course, they're in separate categories so there isn't an "over Margot" about it). The "snub" when a man gets recognized is an excuse to say ah ha! I'm clever, I saw the movie, I know that feminism has something to do with how it's harder for women to get recognized for their work than men! That's how you get a snub to go viral like this.
In the director category, I think there's more to actually be said from a representation standpoint because last year, no women were nominated at all, and 2020 is the only year that had more than one woman nominated. This category clearly does have an issue with acknowledging women. I haven't seen most of the movies nominated in that category, so I can't say who didn't do as well as Greta Gerwig or whatever, but I do think there's a tokenization that happens in situations like this. They already have this year's woman director, they don't want another. And while I totally agree that these white women are rich and will get richer and have tons of opportunities, and the Oscars are far from the top tier of places to worry about feminism in terms of the actual lives of women, women should be nominated for best director when they deserve it, not just one at a time so we can "feel included." (Definitely nice that we've had some women win in recent years, so the real value can be in young people seeing the success that women can have in directing.)
I mean there's still more women who won best director then a black woman who won best actress ...this is what intersectionality is about ( peoples blindspots) and why people were disappointed with the danielle deadwyler debacle last time.
@@JigglyRose I'm not qualified to get into the question of whether biracial is Black or not and I'm not sure how Halle Berry identifies, but totally agree with your point that the conversation is completely different intersectionally, and particularly with best actresses of color. But Margot Robbie was never going to be that. My point is that the Best Actress category is not one in which Margot Robbie can provide needed representation; others of course could, e.g. women of color, trans women, disabled women, or multiple of the above. Just nominating Margot Robbie wouldn't help with any of that.
Thank you for this video. You make me think more deeply about issues like these and, honestly, make me feel a little silly for not thinking about it for myself to begin with. I’m here to learn! So, thank you.
Thank you for always getting it
Spectacular piece!! I feel like this really cuts to the heart of the matter. I see a lot of parallels between the oscar/barbie outrage and the "saveOFMD" stuff that happened recently too
Khadija I appreciate you so much for being so intentional when giving context and perspective. With these complex issues this should be the standard for framing them, but sadly we know that isn't always the case. Once again thank you and keep on creating.
The internet needed this thank you for putting this out there
You’re very well-spoken. I learned a lot from this. Really glad you popped up in my algorithm:) Subscribed!