Underwater Megaliths? And other questions! UnchartedX Q&A!
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- Are there Underwater Megaliths? And other questions - an UnchartedX Q&A!
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Topics and timestamps:
0:47 Are Megalithic structures earthquake proof?
11:00 Should we be looking for structures 400 feet underwater?
18:40 Where is the ancient civilization's workshop?
26:12 Where are the tools?
34:32 How advanced was the lost ancient civilization?
39:03 How did people live at Machu Picchu?
41:46 What's the weather like at Machu Picchu?
45:23 How long does it take you to edit videos?
Links:
The Curious Connection between the Great Pyramid and the Maps of the Ancient Sea-Kings
• The Curious Connection...
Evidence of Ancient High Technology - Liquid Polishing at the Serapeum of Saqqara
• Evidence of Ancient Hi...
Randall Carlson's channel: / @therandallcarlson
Monty Hall documentary on Yonaguni: • Monty Halls' Dive Myst...
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50 minutes of something good to watch. Thanks Ben.
Funny how I keep running into your comments. The search continues. I've told Ben on here about the Red-Haired Giants and the dry fitted stone vaults, kerns, doleman, and the thousands of miles of stone fencing with no apreciable evidence that they were for containing animals. My view is that they were used by the Giants to keep hurds of pre-Younger Dryas epoch mega-mammals away from them and their family. The vaults are just large enough to get into, but dangerous animals would not have been able to gain entrance if they pulled a blocking stone into the opening from the inside.
Bye the way. I'm the Kevin K. that used to write in your comments on your channel way back when. Thanks for all those videos. The Great Pyramid will always be the greatest puzzle of all. Jean Peire Hudan cracked that 3 years ago.
Fapps 😂
RIP cf-apps7865.
You are missed.
Good speed, Chuck
Rest in peace 🕊️
While the lack of tools/workshops found anywhere is an issue, it is true the only major objects we have built since industrialisation that would survive 10,000 years into the future without repair or preservation are our dams, and there would not be any of the construction tools used left near these dams to be found in the future.
Here i am 5 month after your coment replying.
If there is something that will not last very long without getting damage its dams. Water is surprisingly deadly for destroying stuff and all you need is a small crack to appear and maybe 10-20 years for it to completely dissapear. There will likely be some remains, but 10k years is a very long time...
The potentially longest lasting human made artifacts on Earth are those made of stone. The granite faces on Mt Rushmore are supposed to be recognizable up to 10k years from now. But our longest lasting artifacts are not on Earth. The Apollo sites on the moon will last a very long time. The footprints will eventually be eroded away due to micro meteors. These will also gradually reduce the descent stages and experimental packages to rubble. But we might be talking on the order of a billion years or more. The Voyager and Pioneer spacecraft heading out into interstellar space along with their booster stages may outlive the Earth.
@@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations
In 10k years even our largest dams will have seen their reseviors (sp) silted up and the rivers behind them overtoping the dam.
you are forgetting our biggest megaprojects: the roads and highways on earth. They will be covered, true, but if any alien or future intelligent life were to investigate the surface, the network of fine rock, asphalt and concrete should remain virtually forever. Also cities should have unnaturally high concentration of iron oxides left from all the reinforced concrete.
it's not really. even plastics would be gone in 20,000 years. steel won't last 100 years if the conditions are bad. only type of tool that lasts in nature is stone. the same goes with workshops and any types of construction that doesn't use massive stone blocks. sea levels were enormously lower at the ice age and coastal areas are the best places for a civilization to thrive. most likely place the old civilizations existed are 100 meters under the water.
Ben is rapidly becoming one of the best informed and well-educated researchers in 'alternative' research.
I think Yonaguni was a natural feature that was 're-purposed' by man. e.g. The Face with the headdress, The Turtle, etc. There are other large ancient features in Japan that are very similar, if somewhat smaller.
e.g. we didn't 'create' Mt. Rushmore, but we certainly added some faces and tunnels to it. ;)
@The Knave ...100%...i think of Ben n his work, as the “modern day” Graham Hancock ...with newer more reasoned analysis maybe...he’s out at the sites and his creative use of video perspectives are fresh n totally thought provoking...my opinion
Total success
@@mariangheti1327 There are no massive problems with his hypothesis and argumentation - the problem is with the topic in general. Ben is gathering all known info on it and tries to find some logical cues. There are things on Earth that you just can't explain, due to lack of ANY reasonable evidence (super tools used to cut the rock, or remains of the little grey/green men, shattered pieces of spacecrafts lol etc.) The biggest achievement here would be for the official science just to ADMIT all those things Ben talks about. But, they will never do, and here we go, back to original point.
@@mariangheti1327 I've found that debates with people who hold the standard pov - especially among the majority of credentialed authorities - are often quite fruitless, and less than helpful, in understanding our past.
e.g. it has become a joke, even among archaeologists, that anything they do not understand is either a 'temple' or an object used for 'ritual' purposes.
e.g. a 'missing' Greek dark age, when the stratigraphy throughout the region proves there was no such dark age, at all. ;)
So, in the end, all Ben would derive from the debate is to become a target for your fallacious attacks against him, while you also ignored or dismissed evidence and proofs that are inconvenient to your argument.
Mainly used research of Hancock, Dunn, and Carlson but is a great presenter. And is offers some great perspective on things with his footage and giving guys like Yousef and Mohammed some exposure.
It is so refreshing to find videos that are not just dreamy pictures with long pauses for dramatic effect and little information. These are delightfully packed with factual details.
As a diver I have seen Yonaguni and I believe it is likely a human accessed quarry. Importantly quarries are usually uphill from constructions. I would like to look deeper.
How difficult of a dive was it? I’m pretty advanced but I hear it gets a little extreme. I’m in Japan frequently.
my thoughts exactly ... !
Being a quarry 7000+ years ago is the most likely explanation if it isn't natural.
This is a pretty logical suggestion..
One very unfortunate aspect of the discovery of underwater structures which are clearly man-made is that the organisations who have the best technology, do the most mapping and have by far the highest funding are either oil&gas exploration or are military. Neither of which are in any hurry to disclose what they find. The former is scared about some group slapping a ban on their exploitation rights in a particular area because something may be deemed "heritage", and the latter never talks about anything anyway.
yeah but look at science. They invented stories about the origins of megalithic structures. This is way worse, actively working to coveryup humanities true history.
@@Patrik6920 they found ancient structures in new zealand. look up skeletons in the closet
Access is banned
Sites in the grand canyon. access banned. Same for tunnels under the sphinx/
Europeans in ancient egypt. Europeans in north america before siberian indians. Europeans in south america. all banned knowledge.
"Where are the tools?"
The next question is based on the evidence that the tools left...
"How much time does it take for a large granite wire saw, or polishing equipment, similar to what we use today, to completely break down and disintegrate beyond detection by today's technology?
The question was addressed about how long it would take a iPhone to disintegrate beyond detection?
We have a rough idea of the half-life of radioactivity and plastic.
We know the half-life of wood and metals like steel and copper.
The remains of the tools and equipment that made the objects in question evade our limited search.
Is it possible that the tools have been reduced to a molecular level? Making it impossible to find without a scientific method?
The tools required to cut and polish basalt and granite, consistent with the tooling mark indicators we see today, would be made using metals and perhaps plastics, at the very least.
The time it would take to reduce the infrastructure that was used to make the tooling marks we see today is extreme. Thousands of years of atmospheric exposure would be necessary to completely reduce the equipment to a molecular level.
All potential atmospheric influence must be considered when addressing this question.
Deluge, wind, ice, thaw, solar flare, even nuclear weapons would be an effective way to accelerate the breakdown needed to remove the tools from the physical environment, enough to evade our brief search.
If the academic authority would grant permission to the scientific community to do a thorough investigation of the sites, the evidence may be found.
But, if they continue to fill public access to the sites with wind blown garbage, persist to bar entry with shabby iron gates and wooden floor boards, and direct polluted water to flood ancient underground facilities, and encourage military facilities to use ancient sites as land fills andntoxic waste dump sites, the molecular level evidence of the tools will remain unobserved by the curious.
The questions that beg to be asked next, pile up behind the first question of "Where are the tools?"
Petri was beyond thorough, for his time, in his examination of the drill cores, rock vessels and various architectural examples.
Ben, you are our generation's Petri. You are close to the answers. Nobody else is as clear as you, when it comes to presenting the evidence for high tech industry, advanced society and the undeniable fact that there is a significant effort to hide the truth from humanity.
You produce and present the information in a gentle, as not to offend the academy or authorities, but also undeniabley persistent manner, towards finding answers that agree with our current culture.
We have been brought to the brink of finding the truth, by you and your colleague's hard works.
Please endeavor to persevere in your research. We are all grateful for your choice to be explorer of these topics. It is of the highest importance that we learn the true history of humanity on earth.
You have seeded my life with renewed sense of wonderment and unbridled curiosity, and I am grateful to you for that.
Cheers Ben!
On the question of where are the tools. Go visit an old abandoned farm yard. It only takes 50 to 60 years for large equipment to rust away and disappear into the ground.
So what you are saying is .., they knew how to build massive machines, but didn't have any plastics or otherwise hard to recycle materials at hand?
Casino Royale who said anything about massive machines? Although a roman catapult was a massive machine. You can make machines and tools with a lot of wood in
@@StoutProper casino Royale is a troll, just ignore him.😎
@@casinoroyale9934 They were more eco-friendly people, that's why did not create plastic. They left this dumb, horrible, and inhuman task for you and your kind.
plastic still decomposes after some hundreds of years
Nearly an hour on underwater megaliths, settling in for this one :) I'm building an underwater ROV that'll be good down to 100 metres at least, should be done by end of next year. I'll be taking it to the South Celtic sea to look at underwater terrain that used to be plains and forests about 8K years ago.
Who asked ?
@@casinoroyale9934 Yer mum.
that's badass! all the best!👌🏽
Sounds great, let us know how that goes.
Get it going yet?
Plenty of time has passed to completely rot away even the most complex iron or steel tools, plus people would have looted those things very early on.
I’m tired of the assumption that 4000 year old civilizations were primitive or “dumb” compared to us now in our 400 years of enlightenment.
Just think how many cars of some make that aren't left simply because there is little interest in restoring them. Things get recycled.
Plus it has likely been a lot more than 4000 years in many cases.
Can't imagine them any dumber than today. But surely they would have been smarter from their focus on fewer subjects. Imagine listening to them expound on what 'stones' are to them. A shame we only sent sailors, soldiers, priests and greedy narcissists - no scientists, engineers, stonemasons etc.
They had magic more than you might believe.
I think this"enlightenment" is coming to an end.
Yes, a rung through of your recording equipment cameras, microphones, drones, editing tools, studio setup etc would be super interesting.
Thanks Ben. Needed something to cheer me up.
Really enjoyed the tunnel comments. Something I have always wondered about them. They provide safety, living space and storage. Then we bring up the Great Floods. They would be unsafe. Is it their level above the water table, seas?
Yes would LOVE to see your camera gear & the whole setup! You have such amazing footage & put it all together so beautifully, a bit of behind-the-scenes would be *awesome*.
When you add up the number of megalithic structures and the number and size and precision of each stone, there is not enough labor hours to complete these projects by using hand tools with the number of people in the history time line. This requires more time and technologies to achieve many of these work pieces, the other gap is how did they move them and erect them after being machined? This pushes our time line farther into the past.
Greetings from switzerland, keep up the great work!
Cheers from Canada as well,... : )
Channels grown a ton since the first video . Congrats man , Appreciate the effort
AWESOME!!! Just when I couldn't find anything to watch!
You sell yourself short. Your speech and speech patterns are part of what makes watching you so enjoyable. The content is fantastic but if it’s done in an unengaging manner it’s unpalatable. Keep up the great work!!
8:18 - those are some very similar holes for door hinges as in some of your Egyptian videos, where Youssef (?) contemplates on how you could even get so far into the corner with a tool (though, they are even closer to the corner there).
I figured that's what they were too, wonder how they fit the doors?
Don't recall the Egyptian example but in this video the holes could be in a lintel sitting on the door posts which would make them slightly easier to drill.
Yeah, I was watching one of Matt's videos (ancient architects) where he mentioned an indigenous site off the coast of northern Western Australia, and was talking about how there was once a lot more land that was covered by water in the past which made me think that a lot of people would have lived near or on the coast or big rivers, the sort of places that would now be under water.
The comet strike near Madagascar caused a tidal wave that would’ve wiped out all coastal communities on Western Australia’s coastline was more recent than these megaliths @ 5000 years ago
Ben, you have amazing delivery, your logic is extremely easy to follow, your analogies are on point, this is something I would show a skeptical History professor.
Thank you.
I've been enjoying your content for several months now, and I really appreciate your approach on the mounting evidence.
During this video, some recurring thoughts came to mind that I wanted to share. As we search for evidence of tools and technology, I keep coming back to the saying, "Necessity is the mother of invention." I think it's safe to say that's a human trait that we'd have in common with this lost civilization, but our necessities were / are likely very different. When I see the large scale polygonal masonry, I get the impression that earthquakes or some environmental havoc was a common occurrence - the ice core sample data indicates what I would call volatile living conditions. I wonder if we are seeing a refined achievement originally meant to solve a problem, especially if you want to make anything of significance to last. But ultimately we don't know what we're looking for - they could be way more advanced in a technology we've had no need to develop, and vice versa. We could stumble on the likes of an ancient record with no turntable, and probably already have (hell, that granite core sample is probably full of the Atlantian's greatest hits! 😉) The tube drill is a really interesting theory - the samples you've shown really drives that home - along with the circular saw cut evidence and precision. It tells us there's more than copper chisels to say the least. Until we find more, I'm just enjoying the ride and the wonder of what we were able to pull off eons before the invention of the printing press. Now that was a game changer. Thanks for all your efforts Ben!
The 'staircase' at, 03:00 is upside down. Its broken off the from the bedrock. Quenco has similar broken off parts.
Then you're work is absolutely beautiful. Thank immensely for the heavy-duty effort you put into it
I’m picking-up everything you’re putting down. I read that article and noticed exactly what you did. You are clearly the logical voice in the world.
It's great going back over the oldies... Surprising how much you forget, or at least failed to retain when watching first time. thanks again Ben.👍😃👍
I watch you and my brain starts revving up with interest
Ben, love the channel and the info you're putting out. I had a theory RE the Serapeum - big questions stand out eg how they got these enormous boxes underground etc - looking at the footage around the 24min mark, it looks almost as though the chambers these boxes are in, were man made. The arched roofs/blockwork have square/rectangular patterns in them - got me thinking maybe the structure around them was man made, but then covered up with sediment from floods/wind deposited material that hardened over time and give the impression at this point in time, that the chambers were hollowed out?
Running with that theory, the water erosion on the Sphinx proves there were some serious geological/hydrological events at some point, and Saqqara appears to be directly upstream of the Giza area.....
Perhaps we're actually looking at a temple complex that was buried by those floods and associated deposits of stone/sand etc ?
EG - 24:05 - the walls around the box are clearly layers of stone blocks that have been laid like bricks - if this was a hollowed out chamber, there wouldn't be clear layers of blocks laid upon each other.
Again at 24:22 - the chamber is clearly not a natural formation, it's been built as a chamber to cover the box. 24:53 shows clear blockwork built in an arch over the chamber. Building such blockwork to fit into an underground chamber is impossible - you cant fit the keystone in to form the arch without fitting it from above, which is obviously impossible if this chamber was already underground.
The erosion on (i'm guessing the blocks/arched ceiling are limestone?) the surrounding chamber would be consistent with a long period of immersion in water, while the different chemical structure of the stone the boxes were made out of, would resist that erosion, especially if it was sea water that immersed the whole site.
After the immersion of the site ended, you'd be left with -
1. corroded walls/ceilings in the limestone
2. the whole structure covered by sedimentary sand/material that might have hardened into rock
3. An empty void with whatever other organic material that may have been inside, dissolved. Any water inside would have either drained through small cracks into the bedrock, or evaporated. Are there any signs of salt deposits on the floor of the chambers?
Good observation, good questions.
Both of us really enjoyed this video. There were some well crafted questions there that suggested significant thought on the subjects. Regarding the finishing on some of the surfaces, I favor chemical polishing { as a proposed method ), which would not leave any traces over the vast time involved.
Keep up this great work, we need answers.
Awesome Q&A! Nice to see a looser, less formal format from you. Though I must say, your composition and quality of recording/production is a core reason I love this channel so much. I always wondered what field recording equipment you use. I, for one, would much enjoy seeing that. It looks like you have great range on your drone. I think I’ve only seen shadows of your camera but it seems to isolate some and rotate mechanically at times. Interested in the microphones too. That segment in one of your videos on the rooms/areas constructed with the right dimensions to create standing waves, one of which was in the great pyramid, was one of the most interesting mysteries to me!
Another great video Ben, your efforts are much appreciated.
I really enjoy this channel ever since I found it a couple of months back. Have you heard about the ancient megalithic structures on Indonesia? Would you consider making a video about them? Cheers from Denmark
Ben, I love this channel and your work. Finally I have a go to reference when discussing these topics with people who aren't familiar with them. This really is the greatest mystery in the world.
38:06 this is my understanding as well. To polish stone in current times one must use a series of diamond polishing pads, a powerful circular sander, weight/pressure, and a decent chunk of time - think 4 hours for a granite kitchen counter. Compounds can help, but it’s really just grinding away the stone in finer and finer bits until it’s shiny and smooth.
Wow, you answered so many questions I've had in this one stream. Great perspectives and insight!
Great stuff, Ben. I hope you will be knocking out content for years to come!
Fascinating AGAIN !!! You always seem to come up with seriously thought provoking ideas based on your direct observations & investigations. Just excellent !!!
I think one of the points you're making at around 24:30 is that what we're seeing is a level of precision we use in small things expressed in really big old hard things from a very, very long time ago.
I am a sculptor who works with plastic materials clay wax plaster etc and cast them into durable materials bronze cements)polymers) . while I am not a fan or sold on the cast theory.one because there's no regrouped unused material,etc.mankind is a messy specifies that has never collected up after himself leaving valuable flint and copper tools where he last used them.just go to any building site.. But in one of your videos you stated it couldn't be cast granite because of the result of the minerals in the stone box a large orange band on the box it is quite possible to do this and relatively easy to achieve.this box was in the video with one box inside another easy as he'll to achieve by casting. As an added note to Chris's dunn . cast sculptures until the discovery of modern rubbers we're moulded using piece moulds from dozen pieces of plaster were used so complex forms could be cast.since the discovery of latex and other rubbers there is no limit to the complexity of a form that can be cast in one piece with little or no sign of pouring. One place to look would be in inside corners because only with casting would you be able to achieve 90degree cut with no rounding of the interior. The box that we started with had like three steps in the bottom perfect place to look into the corners .I know you spend a lot of time on these videos an none of us can be a jack of all trades but you made a rather strong comment about this box and Chris Dunn did the same about mould making . I am surprised that he didn't know better.I do enjoy your videos and maybe I can sell a few sculptures and come on a tour with you.PS l have been sculpting and casting for 44 years so I think I know alittle bit of what I am talking about
Excellent video loved this q&a style video was very informative especially since you have provided so much of your own footage to demonstrate your answers great work.
Great video BEN !!! We love all that you are doing and showing us!!! Keep up the great work!
The only issue I have with your videos, as well as those from Graham, Randall and so many others is, I usually que them up within a couple of hours before bed time and then find myself all the way down the rabbit hole at two in the morning.....
Awesome chat, thanks for all the time and effort you put into your productions. I only found you today via a mention in another video. I watched your latest video and then found the chat. Awesome content and in-depth research. :)
thank you foi the upload, i look forward to each / im very thankfull for what you share, i only wish i could, in my life go and see some of these things myself. ty for your hard wok unchartedX /fist bump
Fascinating as ever. Ben, the video kit you use in the field and your editing software would be interesting to see
I think the best bet for trying to find potential sites for ancient antediluvian civilizations is to follow the submerged river channels to the sunken coast line.
While I have on another video, asked that question, about the tools. With as much megalithic work that's been done it doesn't make sense that either broken tools or misplaced tools haven't been found at the quarries or construction sites. It's entirely possible that someone did find something but they most likely have been scavengers or tomb raiders. With this thought there could be tools that are in private collections and they just aren't recognized as anything but some weird artifacts, that other than their strangeness they aren't considered valuable monetarily.
As for offshore exploration and diving. May I suggest a small ship that was recently launched.
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So check out his RUclips channel and it will lead you to all the info you need.
Superb Ben! Soo Professional and interesting! Thank you for ALL your fantastic efforts! From the UK!
Always look forward to new videos from your channel, Ben. Always excellent content ☺👍
Ben, this was really enjoyable. Covering a lot of topics succinctly.
I had a question for when you get around to another one of these:
Would you be willing to go over various items found in coal/rock and possible explanations as to their origin?
I think this its fascinating, but very few people talk about them.
Thanks again for the great content.
Regarding the missing tools. A carpenter doesn't leave his tools behind when he is done working on your house. I wrote this before I heard you say it XD Great work BTW!
I think they must have taken the tools with them. It stands to reason that wherever they went they would need tools so pack them up and move with them. You can imagine how valuable they would be.
Omg I hadn't even started checking your channel to make sure I hadn't missed a notification yet! Always love to hear more of you!!! Your perspective and subject matter are beyond words to take in. Thank you for more content = D
Let's put things into perspective when it comes to the question; "Where are the tools?"
Metals decay, rust, and corrode very quickly.
Think about how many cars are still round that were built 100 years ago.
How many ships, tanks, and airplanes still exist from World War One?
And that was a mere 100 years ago.
What are the odds of finding metal or wood tools that existed over 12,000 years ago?
If they did exist once, they would have turned to dust via natural deterioration a very long time ago.
However, maybe one day an ancient tool may be discovered cause it was somehow preserved.
But that would be referred to as a "Huge stroke of luck."
Nothing rusts in a desert.
@@stevenp922 That is not accurate.
Metals may rust slower in a dryer climate, but they do indeed rust.
Just like ice cubes still melt in your freezer.
The process is slower, but the process still occurs.
i polish concrete and stone for a living, and we use a liquid called penetrating hardener/densifier that we use in-between steps usually towards the end to fill any pores and close it off the rest of the way, but it penetrates just like shown on those boxes, the brand we use is called retroplate if that helps.
Granite consists of (usually large) crystals of silica, feldspar, and mica. I cannot imagine any chemical which could erode away these different minerals at the same rate to produce the polish observed, as suggested by one of your correspondants.
The Inca never met a large - megalithic size - stone that they either quarried, cut or moved. They just didn't. They were the pebble masters of their age.
Disagree that megaliths were created by Incas. Many videos show Inca stone works to be much cruder, of smaller, irregular stones and on top of the megalithic, perfectly shaped stone.
Seems like many of these sites, whether we are talking Egyptian, Inca, Aztec, or whoever, the sites make way more sense if you look at it expecting it to be in phases. Like someone found a site and upgraded and put their name on it...and that may have happened many times over a great span of time. If 1500 years from now our records are lost and researchers are just looking at stuff, they might think Sadam built stone temples in Iraq.
@@marksmith4346 Just like Europeans built churches over these exact places. Re used, re purposed for the rulers of the time
Pebblesaurs
Recently discovered your channel and loving it. keep up the good work Ben!
The close up views of the pyramid show the precision of its angles. It also plays a trick on the mind when pointed toward the sky. I can’t tell which way is up or down. Brings new meaning for me about the whole heaven to earth connection of these megaliths.
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Excellent questions and answers!
Awesome job on this Ben . I'm glad to see everyone collaborating and challenging each other on these theories , One day we will know the truth .
Found your channel a few days ago, absolutely love it
Really great Ben, excellent video, I thought this format of answering questions was very informative.
Thank you uncharted x for another great video informative and very interesting. I've always been curious about the stones at megalithic sites that have the protrusions on them. They don't look like the rock was shaved down but almost as if it was pulled out of the rock. And you happen to see that type of architecture in many different places around the world which to me would suggest that they may have been done by the same people or designers
It's 3:15 in the mornig and i'm about to sleep. Ben drops THAT title!! Well, i guess some things are more important than sleep... I mean, you gotta get your priorities straight!
You are my favorite person on this topic. Thank you for your dedication
awesome man ... Ben you give new light on this subject, keep'em coming.
Hey Ben. You and the guys need to set up a fund page for one of those underwater drones.
Everyone wanted to be underground. What were they all afraid of? The rolling stone door in Darankuyu looked to me like a blast door in a nuclear hardened bunker
My guess is protection from solar outbursts and possible conflict from the rogue plane X that comes around ever 60 thou. years or so.
They were living in extremely evil times with giants and fallen angels plus there were cannibals so you would want major protection!!!
Another thought on the "where are the tools?" question: it sounds far out, but I think we have to include the possibility that the people from this advanced civilization left, and took a substantial portion of the tools with them. If they were such an advanced culture, then they probably also were capable of space travel. Also, if they were so advanced, they probably had the capability to see some of the signs of an impending cataclysm. So maybe.... maybe a number of them built an "ark", and left the planet before the cataclysm hit, looking for greener pastures elsewhere. It's just theoretical, however, there does appear to be some myths that hint at such a possibility, of beings who, at the end of the "golden age", left the planet to find a new existence in "the heavens". Take for example the myth of the maiden Astraea (from wikipedia): "Astraea, the celestial virgin, was the last of the immortals to live with humans during the Golden Age, one of the old Greek religion's five deteriorating Ages of Man. According to Ovid, Astraea abandoned the earth during the Iron Age. Fleeing from the new wickedness of humanity, she ascended to heaven.." Myths such as these are purely circumstantial; however they do provide some interesting food for thought. Although another good possibility is that the tools were melted and vaporized during the cataclysm(s)...
Hi Ben, I am do thankful for your videos, research, passion and what mist be a huge personal expense in time and money for your scholarship and tenacity to bring these locals to us. Have you ever studied the Ellora Caves?
It would be interesting to see digital caliper measurements taken of eg. The ribs of the column piece lying in the sand - assuming it was machined there should be a high precision and matching widths.
You mean the ridiculously large columns with the palm top? I continue to wonder if one could simply mic the "spines" running along the palm fronds to see how close they are to each other. It won't be super precise due to the very nature of stone, erosion, and untold damage from millennia of abuse, but I'd be more than impressed if all measurements were within hundredths of an inch. That would at least verify that they weren't simply "eyeballed" or followed a wooden template, etc.
With regard to "where are the tools . . and other evidence?" . . maybe the only things to survive the cataclysm are megalithic stones. Also . . no one leaves any tools behind; the only tools we may find will be next to a worker who died during the event . . and was preserved intact. Of course, we don't know what lies more than three hundred feet below sea level. It's too bad that most exploration has traditionally been done by treasure hunters who aren't interested in the treasure of knowledge. Love your show
Man leaves his trash everywhere and has always done hence the archeological record is full of flint tools the port in Egypt used by khufu and only in the time of Judy left there never to come back to collect ropes bronze chisels. Obviously these were really cheap and easy to acquire in 2800BC
Daniel Baharier cheap tools yes, expensive tools maybe not so much
How did I miss this one?? Great works Ben.
I like the way you’re explaining with open options & mind . Great work thanks 👍👍
What do you think about the Bosnian Pyramids?
Love your work btw.
Go to "Ancient Architects" for examining the Bosnian Pyramids
14:48 Yes, this is Dwarka, a substantial megalithic city that is now underwater. Based on its depth, it would have been above the sea level around 12K years ago.
great videos mate, thanks for taking the time.
much appreciated
Your content is always pure gold...the best there is on the subject of ancient history
I'm convinced there's something off the coast of N.C along the continental shelf
do not second guess it as there is
What is it?
Is that the 3 peaks due east of Kill Devil Hills?
@@kevin8poison142 Most likely some fish, various other aquatic life forms, water, etc.
The earth goes through cycles of catastrophe whereby the destruction is so utterly biblical in scope and size that it's a miracle that we find anything at all from the ancient past. Claiming that because no tools have been found and therefore tools were not used, does not prove that there were never any tools.
what took me so long to watch it, so sorry, brilliant as always!
I love all your stuff. I’m always looking forward to the next vid.
Hi Ben, some weeks ago I emailed you some thoughts about the Serapeum and the feasibility of floating the precision carved boxes into their alcoves. Any response to that idea?
....i like that idea!
Simple calculation tells you that when granite has a mass of 2700kg/m3... 65% needs to be removed from the inside to make it buoyant in water.
That is with the water almost to the rim.
The boxes in the Serrapeum would need a significant smaller wallthickness to meet that figure!
In theory 1.5 to 2 metres of water, depending on the height of the box, would reduce the weight somewhat but would not make it easy to manoeuvre.
People were less tall then too! 😉
My suggestion is that the Serapeum was built as part of an irrigation network, and the the boxes were floated into position, through flooded tunnels scarcely wider than the boxes themselves.
Is this idea feasible? How buoyant could a hollow stone box be?
From the videos a stone box looks to be about 2m by 2m in cross section and about 4m long, giving a gross volume of 16 cubic metres. The hollowed out part looks to be about 1.5m wide by 1.5m high by 3.5m long. In other words, the thickness of the box’s base and wall is about 25 cm. So the carved out volume is approximately 7.875 cubic metres, but let’s round that up to 8 cubic metres for simplicity. The remaining volume of stone is then 16 minus 8 , or 8 cubic metres also.
The lid looks to be 2m by 4m by 0.25m, so would have a volume of 2 cubic metres.
The density of a hard stone like granite is 2691 kg per cubic metre
(www.aqua-calc.com/calculate/volume-to-weight/substance/granite)
The density of fresh river water can be assumed to be close to 1000 kg per cubic metre.
So a stone box immersed in water almost to its lid would displace 16 cubic metres of water, weighing 16 tonnes, but the weight of the hollowed part of the box would be 8 times 2.692 , equal to almost 21.54 tonnes. Adding the weight of the lid (2 x 2.692 = 5.4 tonnes approximately) gives an overall weight for the whole box, plus lid, of 26.94 tonnes. The empty stone box would not float but would receive an upthrust via Archimedes principle of about 16 tonnes, so would have an apparent weight of approximately 11 tonnes, or only 5.6 tonnes if moved without the lid.
Perhaps extra buoyancy could be obtained by lashing log rollers underneath the box? Imagine placing 20 wooden rollers, each 20cm in diameter and 2m long underneath a box. Volume of each roller would be cross sectional area of 0.1 sq m x Pi , or 0.314 sq m multiplied by 2m, giving a roller volume of 0.62 cubic metres approx. The 20 rollers would have a combined volume of 20x 0.62 =13.4 cubic metres, thus 13.4 tonnes of water and adding an up thrust of 13.4 tonnes minus the weight of the logs. We are getting close to, or beyond the point of neutral buoyancy to a situation where a large box could be manoeuvred with ropes and rollers through the Serapeum tunnels.
This calculation illustrates the feasibility of floating/hauling the Serapeum boxes and their original contents into position in their chambers, through the almost flooded tunnels, by relatively few workers. The placement of boxes in this method does not require 250 strong workers using ropes and rollers in a dry, confined tunnel, which has been the presumption until now.
Interestingly, this method also provides an explanation for the large box ‘stranded’ in one of the tunnels. If a cataclysm occurred that damaged the hydraulic engineering of the tunnel complex, then the water level may have dropped irretrievably and the box would have lost buoyancy and become immovable.
@@ajayvee6677 ....brilliant explaination. The mass of the box is equal to the void. What about oil as a buoyancy fluid. There is a small drain/tunnel in one corner of the Serrapeum which I think is the is where any fluid is drained. And I think the box in the middle of the tunnel is as you say was 'stranded' when a sudden disaster struck.
Apologies. My mental arithmetic let me down and I miscalculated the upthrust from wooden rollers. Here is a revised and more detailed hypothesis.Serapeum calculations, revised, 20 May 2020.
The Serapeum at Saqqara, Egypt is an underground complex of tunnels and side chambers whose original function is unclear. Some chambers contain a large, precision carved and polished stone box and fitted lid weighing many tonnes. (See RUclipss made by Ben from UnchartedX.) These videos suggest the tunnels, boxes and chambers are the work of a pre-dynastic civilisation of great technical skill that was obliterated by a cataclysmic event, perhaps associated with an asteroid impact at the start of the Younger Dryas period 12000 years ago. Ben’s thesis is that the Serapeum complex was inherited by the dynastic Egyptians thousands of years later and renovated using cruder building methods, including simple carving of hieroglyphic ‘tags’ onto the highly polished granite or diorite boxes. The pharaonic graffiti has misled Egyptologists about the true age and original purpose of the complex, which remains a mystery.
My suggestion is that the Serapeum was built as part of an irrigation network, and the the boxes were floated into position, through flooded tunnels scarcely wider than the boxes themselves.
Is this idea feasible? How buoyant could a hollow stone box be?
From the videos a stone box looks to be about 2m by 2m in cross section and about 4m long, giving a gross volume of 16 cubic metres. The hollowed out part looks to be about 1.5m wide by 1.5m high by 3.5m long. In other words, the thickness of the box’s base and wall is about 25 cm. So the carved out volume is approximately 7.875 cubic metres, but let’s round that up to 8 cubic metres for simplicity. The remaining volume of stone is then 16 minus 8 , or 8 cubic metres also.
The lid looks to be 2m by 4m by 0.25m, so would have a volume of 2 cubic metres.
The density of a hard stone like granite is 2691 kg per cubic metre
(www.aqua-calc.com/calculate/volume-to-weight/substance/granite)
The density of fresh river water can be assumed to be close to 1000 kg per cubic metre.
So a stone box immersed in water almost to its lid would displace 16 cubic metres of water, weighing 16 tonnes, but the weight of the hollowed part of the box would be 8 times 2.692 , equal to almost 21.54 tonnes. Adding the weight of the lid (2 x 2.692 = 5.4 tonnes approximately) gives an overall weight for the whole box, plus lid, of 26.94 tonnes. The empty stone box would not float but would receive an upthrust via Archimedes principle of about 16 tonnes, so would have an apparent weight of approximately 11 tonnes, or only 5.6 tonnes if moved without the lid.
Perhaps extra buoyancy could be obtained by lashing log rollers underneath the box? Imagine placing 20 wooden rollers, each 20cm in diameter and 2m long underneath a box. Volume of each roller would be cross sectional area of 0.01 sq m x Pi , or 0.0314 sq m multiplied by 2m, giving a roller volume of 0.062 cubic metres approx. The 20 rollers would have a combined volume of 20x 0.62 =1.34 cubic metres, thus 1.34 tonnes of water displaced and adding an up thrust of 1.34 tonnes minus the weight of the logs. We are getting closer to the point of neutral buoyancy, to a situation where a large box could be manoeuvred with ropes, levers and rollers through the half flooded Serapeum tunnels.
This calculation illustrates the potential feasibility of floating/hauling the Serapeum boxes and their original contents, if any, into position in their chambers, through the almost flooded tunnels, by relatively few workers. The placement of boxes in this method does not require 250 strong workers using ropes and rollers in a dry, confined tunnel, which has been the presumption until now.
Interestingly, this method also provides an explanation for the large box ‘stranded’ in one of the tunnels. If a cataclysm occurred that damaged the hydraulic engineering of the tunnel complex, then the water level may have dropped irretrievably and the box would have lost buoyancy and become immovable.
But what function would the boxes have served? I am discounting the Apis bulls’ sarcophagus theory as being just too fanciful and lacking in supporting evidence.
If we look at the long history of the qanat system of irrigation, found around the Mediterranean and Middle East, we can see that the Romans and other ancient peoples were skilled and experienced at driving long subterranean tunnels through bedrock to convey water, by gravity, to agricultural lands and even to cities such as Rome.
Qanat infrastructures, of uncertain age, but maintained by generations of local people can still be found in the Mediterranean region. They tend to be local, with tunnels and shafts of small cross sectional area, accessible by only one or two workmen at a time. The Wikipedia article on the topic shows a photo of a small structure for diverting the water flow into different subsidiary channels, providing a way of rationing water use to different downstream irrigators.
I suggest that the Serapeum served a similar water regulating function, but on a massive, megalithic scale. In other words, a kind of hydraulic ‘switchyard’, analogous to modern switchyards for electricity. I suspect that excavation might reveal many subsidiary tunnels connected to the Serapeum, through which ancient floodwaters were channeled and distributed to an extensive agricultural region in the Nile valley.
Even if the distributive, minor tunnels were back filled with rubble or sand ( which would make them harder to find today) they would still work by enabling accelerated seepage of water through the more impervious bedrock.
But to return to the boxes, what is the significance of their highly polished, precision cut surfaces? I am unashamedly speculating here, without any evidentiary support.
My guess is that the boxes sat in their alcoves, resting on their rollers and fitting closely against precision cut wall lining blocks and polished tiles on each side. These polished tiles, being smaller and more manageable, have long since been robbed out by later occupants of the site. The wooden rollers decayed long ago. With the tunnels and alcoves almost full of water, the boxes could be slid in and out of the main tunnel, using rollers, ropes and levers. It is somewhat like the tumblers in a modern lock and key combination. By setting the boxes in or out of the main tunnel, the water flow could be directed to any of the (yet to be discovered) connecting tunnels in the more extensive, subterranean irrigation network.
The boxes were hollow, not necessarily to contain anything,but to reduce their weight so that they could be moved more easily in a flooded tunnel. The purpose of the close fitting water tight lid would be to prevent the box being accidentally filled with water, and rendered immovable during a full flood event.
I leave these speculations to others to follow up, to discover if the Serapeum network is more extensive than discovered so far. I would particularly like engineers to check my assumptions and calculations.
Every depiction of an ancient Egyptian with a staff was the representation of a Master Of Frequencies. Sound played a big role in ancient Egypt; it was even used for medical/healing purposes. Add the possible knowledge of mechanical resonance and the swing of a staff could have lifted part of the landscape into place. Makes you wonder also why every wizard in myths, sagas and legends has a 'magic baton' which seems to have been indispensable for whatever purpose and intention. Hey, it lives on in today's 'magicians' who perform tricks on a stage for all to see. A baton gives that air of credibility. Staffs had some purpose besides being ceremonial attributes. Tuning forks, resonators that called a certain frequency, who knows?
The shaft is the Earth's crust axis, the most important natural feature in existence for the human species, other than an individual crustal displacement itself. The crust's shaft periodically breaks free from bulk Earth's axis and wanders over the Ages, moving every direction, it is the Engine of Life and Evolution.
Those "ancient Egyptians" are story form (mythology) descriptions of the behaviour of Nature, Earth and Universe, not living individuals, and not to be taken literally, as baked-minded, utterly lost modern religion and virtually all "modern" (idiot) humans do.
The shifting axis brought humanity and civilized humanity into existence in the first place, it is the "magic" wand that "magician" Earth waves every 22,000± years, bringing to life or disappearing (bringing to extinction) a species in one 2000± year stroke. When the crust's axis moves, the Parasite's Mod Civ is dead, very soon coming as geological evidence proves, due as we breathe the air around us. Ancient Civ faithfully obeyed the irregularly, periodically shifting axis-wand for secure life, sensibly behaving in strict accord with its behaviour, but Parasite-owned and -run Mod Civ has been brainwashed into idiocy to ignore it, thereby guaranteeing the extinction of humanity, and most likely thereby, the human species.
How does one convince a retard that it is a retard lost in itself? Impossible and pointless to try, the retard ensures its own destruction by it own behaviour, problem solved without lifting a finger. Nature and Earth, if they could speak, say goodbye and good riddance to the natural biological disaster called modern humanity, but shed another rainstorm of tears for Parasite-raped, -pillaged, and -killed Ancient Humanity, the Self-Consciousness of the Universe, heads bowed in unbelieving, infinite sadness.
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I agree. I believe sound is the key to the mystery. From a contemporary perspective, we have research in acoustic levitation being conducted currently. Are you familiar with the experiments of a Canadian scientist named John Hutchinson? He has demonstrated some truly bizarre phenomena by manipulating frequencies. Not only levitation, but metal bars essentially being twisted and ripped apart. Definitely look it up if you haven't encountered him before.
There are also accounts of the monks in Tibet levitating boulders by blowing these large horns - which are reminiscent of the shofar from the Biblical story about the Walls of Jericho.
In regards to the concept of wands though, I suspect that the ankh may actually serve a similar function. Many of the things that are typically interpreted as being symbolic in ancient cultures, may really have a much more practical explanation. I see the ankh being used as a tuning fork like you have described. I also make a connection to the Seven Sages of the Babylonians - Oannes and company, the guys in the fish suits. I believe those "bags" they are carrying could actually be the tube drills that are often referenced. When matched to resonate at the same frequency as the material they are being used on, they can essentially phase through the stone - rather than actually cutting though it. This phenomena may also be related to the standing waves of Nikola Tesla.
Very well done , you are spot on , and I find myself binge watching your channel
You are doing amazing . Love how in-depth you get into your exploration. I live vicariously through your videos. . Thank you
We have hope, the up and coming next generation of scientists, archeologists and historians are much more open minded and willing to explore possibilities that current academia stubbornly resists, and dismisses out of hand. Once this old guard has gone, we are far more likely to find the answers we all seek....peace to all.
The problem is that our culture is pushing us into more group thinking. If people disagree with the cultural narrative they get cancelled.
Hey Ben, can you talk about sacred geometry channel the guy does all the old style work with old tools
Great work as per usual. Thanks so much!
You have my unreserved thanks and admiration for your initiative and focus:
when do you go to el giza next?
Another great video, thanks! The equilateral triangle in Gobekli Tepe was dealt with by Ancient Architects quite well.The mention of Amazonian soil got me thinking of the pre-colonial civilization in the south American jungle, attested by at least one 16th century source and confirmed by archaeology. The subject seems to have dropped off the agenda, much like the Gulf of Cambray. The latter even has carbon dates thousands of years before the harrappan civilization...
hello Ben, i would like to point out to you, something i have found to be very important when researching our ancient history.
many people such as Randall and Antonio Z put all their money on impact as the main happenings 12000-13000 years ago, but i have found it might be more likely to have been solar related events such as Robert Schoch and my biggest scientific "hero" Anthony L. Peratt point out.
Peratt's work is the reason for my comment here and i do hope you will read it, not to try and pull you away from Carlson's work on the impact hypothesis, but to encourage you to read the free downloadable papers Peratt wrote, i ensure you the content will speak for itself, it's extremely well written in an academic style with the aim of supporting the presented hypothesis with sufficient proof.
his book called "physics of the plasma universe" which is going into advanced plasma physics. not readable for most who don't have an education in physics, astrophysics and nuclear physics, but i'm mentioning it to back my claim he's not joking around into speculation.
"Characteristics for the Occurrence of a High-Current,
Z-Pinch Aurora as Recorded in Antiquity" should be mandatory reading for every student of alternative history and proves to be a game changer.
i wish you the best of luck with your journey and want to thank you for your work on this fascinating subject, your video's are well documented and exactly what humanity needs, a clear voice speaking the hidden truths of our ancestors.
Laurens
Awesome stuff Ben, I find myself on the same page as you on every topic. I signed up to Curiosity Stream under your promo code - thanks for that too.
You channel is amazing, great approach. Thank you so much!
Mainstream thinking is totally sold on the idea that our current level of "civilization" and technology is the most advanced that has ever been, and until someone is brave enough to challenge that cocky notion, there will be no serious search for the ruins of past advanced civilizations. That's why we desperately need channels like UnchartedX and people like Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson and others... Thanks for the video man!
Agree! But these “quackademics”, like Mark Lerner would just ridicule Ben, saying that he has no evidence, when, actually, they have no logic.
Ben, with regard to the tools, I think you are correct that they were very valuable pieces of technology and they would not have just left them laying around. Considering their skill working with stone the most natural, secure place to store those tools would be underground rock tunnels. I have been in massive limestone mines in Ohio that are 2.000 feet below the surface, naturally bone dry, naturally temperature controlled (about 69 degrees F.). They are the ideal natural totally secure warehouse, and that is what they are currently used as. That is where I would store such valuable tools. You would not find such storage facilities easily. Even more difficulty if they were located in a costal area inundated by catastrophic sea level rise. Keep up the great work.
Very interesting,
Wonderful wonderful wonderful content Ben. Thank you for all your hard work my brother 👊
I really enjoy the content you provide, your presentation skills and the way you convey the topic are very professional thankyou.